Lumix G9 vs Olympus E-M1mk2 - Lumix ambassador vs Olympus visionary
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- Опубліковано 24 лис 2024
- In this video I'm comparing the Lumix G9 and the Olympus E-M1mk2 with some help from an Olympus visionary Peter Forsgård.
The drone footage in the video by a good friend Riku Isohella. Check out Riku's site at: www.isohella.fi/
Check out Peter's channel: / @forsgardpeter
My name is Matti Sulanto, I'm a photographer and a Lumix ambassador based in Helsinki Finland. I'll publish a new video twice a week.
I make my content using Panasonic Lumix cameras and lenses. Some of the equipment I use is my own and some is on loan from Panasonic.
My Instagram: / sulantoblog
My website: sulanto.fi
Fantastic stuff Matti! I am sure many will find the comparison between two cameras very useful. I like that you both include some tips and advice along the way, like Peter reminding everyone to ensure the flaps/covers on camera are all closed before exposing to rain or other elements, for weather-sealing. The video is fun to watch, I cannot wait to see more Finland, and more Peter vs Matti!
I love watching you two together. This reminds me of how the "The Camera Store" with Chris and Jordan used to be! You guys have to keep making videos together and keep the "rivalry" between the two camera brands going :)
Thanks for your kind words.
Thanks and that is our plan. At least once a month.
Couldn't agree more. Keep up the good work.
Peter, please challenge Matti and Panasonic more on autofocus, particularly with non-Panasonic lenses. Matti, please challenge Peter and Olympus more on video quality.
I own an Olympus OM-D E-M1 (original) and a Panasonic Lumix DMC-G85, and I just wish those two cameras would have a baby. I want the phase-detect autofocus of the Olympus with the audio and video quality of the Lumix. Better yet, the OM-D E-M1 II and the GH5 should really get together.
Thank you Matti and Peter for taking the time out to make this very entertaining and informative video, and being so gracious to do it in English so that all of us can understand :) I can't imagine doing all my videos in my second language - you guys are wonderful.
Thank for those kind words. Finnish is so small language and we both feel it makes more sense to make English videos.
Thanks!
G9 owner. IBIS is great. Images are great. Video is great. Yes, very happy with the camera. I am sure the Oly is very good to. It's the person behind the camera that determines if the images are good.
Hi Matti and Peter, first of all thanks for this objective comparisation.
I'm a Panasonic user from a long time (video and photo) but for my activity I use also a Olympus camera.
Overall The image quality is similar but the real difference is the usability where, for me, the Panasonic is the winner with a good ergonomics and system menu.
Thanks again for all.
Thank you for your comment.
Thank you for a lovely video - amongst your many. Joining this party a bit late..:-). I enjoy videos from both you and Peter and about 1 year ago bought a used EM10 mkiv. Have been very happy with it but am considering a second (second-hand) camera and wrestling between these two that you just reviewed. They really do have their relative strengths and weaknesses. For me the biggest pro for the G9 is the amazing viewfinder and the perception that the company is struggling less and likely to remain in business. The biggest pluses for the EM-1 are size/weight and also its colours look a bit richer in the various photos that you provided in this video. I wonder is the colour difference consistent or did it just happen to be the luck of the draw on this limited set of photos.
It is funny that these two cameras are great but you need both of them to have completeness. The G9 has incredible low light performance, while the autofocus on EM-1 II is probably the best for M43 (firmware 3.0 update). The handheld stabilization is pretty good on both (maybe a notch better for Olympus). You cannot beat the price of the G9 and the 10bit video with the update. The menu on the Panasonic G series is really intuitive. I think you need both combined into one.
was there a autofocus hack for the gh5 and if so would it work on the g9?
I'm liking these videos where rather than have the same vision and be enemies you both have formed a partnership and you both have a common goal.
Thank you!
Love the video and the comparison, I looked at the OMD EM1 Mk 2 when it came out, but opted for the Lumix G7 instead, primarily because of price. My son was trying to get me to buy one of the Olympus - OMD 5 or OMD 10. Since I loved the G7 so much, when I upgraded I went with the G9, and it is fantastic especially with the IBIS. I’ve had it now for more than a year, taking photos in 3 continents and I could not be happier. And, interesting enough, my son just traded in his Nikon DSLR for an Olympus OMD EM1 Mk 2. So, maybe, we’ll join you guys and make our own comparison videos, just kidding. Keep up the good work!
Thank you! Even if you don't make the video, you now have a chance to make real comparison.
I have G9, E-M1mkII, and E-M1X. Use the G9 the most. One feature that is not often mentioned on the G9 is that the sensor has an anti-reflective coating. This improves picture quality when shooting into light sources. The flare and "sun" spots are greatly reduced. This is not an advertising claim that does not mean much, it really works. I was shooting a lot of sunrises with my G9 and after a while I noticed that I was not having problems with sun spots like I usually did. Then in a video this feature was mentioned. I thought to myself that this must be the reason for the improved performance. I had noticed the benefit before I knew the reason why.
Thanks for your input. I did not know of the coating😀
This was wonderful. Each camera body has its merits, and likewise its loyal followers.
Thanks.
I would love to see an updated comparison, but this time between the G9 and the EM-1 III
Why they're not even close to the same price range
Love my E-M1 Mark II - and even more so since the latest firmware update! I am sure I could do fine with the Lumix as well. At the time I purchased my Olympus (when the E-M1 Mark II first came out) the Panasonic bodies seemed a bit chunkier, and I really liked the compact size of the Olympus. I also value that Olympus has such a long tradition in imaging - for still photography Panasonic is a relative newcomer.
Thanks for your comment. I also value traditions, but are they more on an emotional level. I think all manufacturers had to start almost from scratch with the digital and the traditions didn't help that much. Look at Sony for example. They bought Minolta, but still, who would have thought 15 years ago that they are going to dominate the industry. But I have to say, it would be nice to able to buy some old Panasonic Lumix legacy lenses and use them on the S1R😀
I've got both cameras because I couldn't choose ;-). Each camera has unique selling points that the other camera doesn't have; both are excellent in their own way. For me, the most important reason to have both cameras is the be able to use dual stabilisation when using its own brand of lenses. Again both Olympus and Panasonic have some excellent/unique lenses that are very complementary and worth having. In all honesty, I can't say that either brand is superior to the other, and having two major players in the M43 field ensures healthy competition that benefits all M43 photographers. The Olympus 12-100mm and Panasonic 50-200mm (paired with the E-M1 mk2 and G9) are a fantastic duo for landscape photography.
Thanks for your input.
Keep up the good work, Matti & Peter!
Yay! The Dynamic Duo is back! Next video -- you guys have to use the camera of the other manufacturer -- Matti uses Olympus and Peter uses Panasonic!!!! Beautiful weather and location. Great pictures! Matti -- what is the music that you have in the background of the pictures -- I love it! I have a G85 with a handful of Lumix lenses (can't afford the Leica) and adapters for vintage 35mm lenses. I'd like to have an Olympus M43 camera also, just cannot afford it currently.
Thanks! We may do that switch in the future in some video. The music is from UA-cam audio library, but right now I’m out of office and can’t check the artist.
I'm not sure why the Fuji xt3 was not in this comparison I'm curious how the xs10 will now hold up to these cameras
I own the G9, love the handling, the fn buttons, the dial on the front which I have set to turn exposure bracketing on and off. The dual cards are great and constant preview. So many things that are good on this camera but I think the two are basically a match/equal to each other. Get good glass in front and the images are superb. Cannot go wrong with either of them. Thanks for the video :)
Thanks, and I agree, both cameras are great.
UHS-II is a massive bonus whenever using the burst modes, the buffer clears almost instantly when using UHS-II. My favourite features on the EM1 Mark II are the IBIS, Live Composite, and Super Control Panel. My friend and I have compared the G9 to this camera and I think the G9 and EM1 are just so close, you're right--it's a matter of taste.
Thanks for sharing.
This was my decision today....the G9 or the EM1mk2. And having used Panasonic cameras in the past, I decided on the Olympus. Olympus glass is sexy and it's what I prefer to use in the system. With the new update and greatly reduced price, Olympus stood out.
How are you liking it Fuji xs10 is out now too
I have the GH5 , and planning to buy the E M1 II for the ability to focus better with the older 4/3 lenses, of which I have 3 nice ones.
Peter did not mention some key points of Olympus cameras, like live composite. Now, the E-M1 mk iii fills some gap with the G9 : joystick, USB charging AND powering, and some cool nice features : MyMenu, hand held high resolution, live ND, and improved autofocus, especially for face detect. This makes the E-M1 iii an even better camera. But the G9 stays a better video cam (10bits, 4K 60p), except if you must rely on the better stabilizer and phase detect autofocus, which is often the case.
I think all M43 are great cameras and can take great photos, but some features may be in some cases critical to be able to make a photo you could not take otherwise.
The G9 is also a lot cheaper camera right now and better value for money, in my opinion.
Enjoyed this video in December! Nice to see some sun.
As a longtime Olympus user and first time Panasonic owner (G85), I have to say there’s now a lot of parity (similarity). It used to be that Olympus offered the IBIS and better JPEG color, while Panasonic offered a better hybrid video/stills experience, but now they’re more similar than ever before. They even both have a supercontrol panel option!
Thanks for tips like the LCD using less power than the EVF, I didn’t know that. The Panasonic quick-sleep EVF mode seems to be pretty effective too though. I also enjoyed your banter!
If you ever did this kind of two-brands comparison video again, it would be nice to get some close-up views of each camera. Like, when you talk about the grip, it would be nice to see the Lumix from the front then rotate to a top view, then the Olympus from the top and rotate it to view the front. Maybe also one or two feature demos, like “this is how I preview exposure in the EVF” or “This is how you enable and shoot the hi-res mode” so we get an idea of the menus and how the cameras operate.
Thanks for your feedback.
Really good video Matti! It felt relaxed, fun and informative. It shows photography can be approached in a different way and does not have to be just serious. You two guys looked liked you were enjoying yourselves and this made it a great video to watch. Look forward to more double acts in the future!
Thanks! We go way back and that probably explains the relaxed atmosphere.
Still, it will be a very beneficial video in 2023. After considering switching from an old Sony full frame, I am looking to buy my first micro 4/3 camera. Do you still see the same benefit from G9 after three years of this video? I see entry and mid-level lenses from both Olympus and Lumix are similar. I assume lenses from either brand can be used on both cameras, correct?
First, I'm not a brand ambassador any more. Just to be clear on that. I think the G9 can be a very good camera even today especially if you can find it for reduced price. Because it's an old model you can sometimes find it even below $1000. The camera body is not any smaller than Sony A7 series though. There are some incompatibilities with the lenses between Olympus and Panasonic, but most lenses work just fine. You can do a search on those issues and see if they are relevant for you.
@@mattisulanto those are really helpful and no worries about the ambassador things. I appreciate your reply. I will look up to see the incompatibilities with the lenses. I am shooting images for daily life and fun, and kids' sports, so will look into compatible lenses. I appreciate your input and all the videos.
Thanks to the new firmware and price reductions on the EM1 MK2 it DOES look quite appealing now though I think my G80 upgrade *might* just stay with the G9. Need a birds in flight shoot out to seal the deal!
Thanks for commenting.
Loved the video - you and Peter Forsgård were excellent together!
Thanks!
I rented a G9 for a long weekend to photograph a local bicycle race and among other things I really liked the soft shutter button. I hope it shows up on more cameras in the future.
The shutter button on the G9 divides people, some hate it and some like it. It took me a while to get used to it, but now I think it's fine.
@@mattisulanto I had to retrain my shutter finger too but it didn't take very long to relearn where half and full shutter were, and by race time I was adapted, and by the end of the weekend I wished my own camera (a GF1) had such a shutter.
Great video, I've been a subscriber of Peter's and now I am a subscriber of both of you gentlemen. I use and enjoy both Panasonic and Olympus, my current lineup is the Olympus E-M1X, the E-M1, as well as the Panasonic G85, GX85 and the G7. The G7 is my "leave it in the car so I always have a camera" unit. As far as which is better, to me they are both outstanding and between the two I would choose whatever fit my hands best. You can't go wrong either way.
Thanks for commenting and subscribing too!
Great video , seems like LUMIX is brighter , like to see comparisons of same image and settings on both cameras for a more direct comparison.
Thanks! The brightness can be just a preference in RAW processing. The image quality is pretty much similar on both.
Love you guys, really glad you could get this review together.
Thank you!
Highly entertaining. I couldn't see any difference in the very nice images from both cameras. As you say, surely any modern camera is good enough for most people's needs who aren't shooting for money. (Like me)
Thanks!
I have the G9 and I love the ergonomics of it. I've owned an E-M5 II and I much prefer the menu system of Panasonic too. I still have a Tough TG-6 and PEN-F though - I love the aesthetics and design of Olympus's gear.
Thanks for your comment.
Two of my favorites. Now about the cameras, I am still trying to decide. I wish the two companies would collaborate more so that the stabilization in lenses were made to a standard. This way a lens from one company would work in the others camera. The lenses fit and take pictures, but the stability does not work.
Thanks. It's not THAT big problem, but it's annoying.
Great video and it is fun to watch. I live in Sicily and I would to see more Finland. I know your country is wonderful. Can't wait to watch another video. Ciao from Siracusa
Thanks!
Two incredible cameras, and with the firmwares they've had released this year also two great video options! Log profiles on both and either fantastic video autofocus and a solid 8 bit codec on the Olympus or beautiful 10 bit internal on the Panasonic mean vloggers or low budget filmmakers don't have to look any further!
I'm sorry you're saying that no films can be made on 8-bit kind of silly
@@unbroken1010 it can be done, of course, but since they're a similar price you'd always opt for a Panasonic or Blackmagic if buying purely for filmmaking since the superior autofocus of the Olympus isn't that useful on a set with an AC or focus puller. But I use the Oly E-M1ii almost every day and love it, and the DCI 4K might just be good enough to throw up on a big screen, it's that good!
Thank you for the comparison. You may not be able to given your ‘ambassadorships’ but what would be really interesting is if you reviewed each other’s cameras - now that would be a real comparison!
I own the E-M1.2 and am very impressed with its rock solid build, speed and customisability.
I went to a Panasonic day and tested it against the G9. The G9 was a beautiful camera also, I must say. It was substantially bigger than the Olympus, which was a step away from the compelling reason for MFT.
The larger and higher-red EVF was a revelation, although I found the colour reproduction not as natural as the Olympus - this may have been a setting adjustment, I acknowledge.
The Panasonic UI is first class - I think they really push the boundaries of moving to the mirrorless technology compared to Olympus - who still display everything just as a DSLR.
At the time, my Olympus had firmware 2.3. I would say the Panasonic DFD contrast detection was as good as the hybrid AF on Olympus and better in very high contrast circumstances. With V3.0 firmware on Olympus, I feel the Oly is probably a little stronger now for the types of photography I do in terms of AF.
However, Panasonic’s object tracking was vastly superior to the Olympus.
I found the AF point joystick on the G9 quite laggy so didn’t really appreciate the benefit as much as I might have.
Overall, I felt the G9 was a strong competitor to the E-M1.2 - each with some relative strengths and personal preference probably required to split the two.
Thanks for your comment and feedback. We have to consider that camera swap in the future.
After some years of E-M1 I am more attracted to the G9. if I get a new MFT body. However, a few things concern me. The grip on the G9 is thicker, I like the E-M1 Mark 2 grip better for day long holding. I have some old FT lenses and the E-M1 original and Mark 2 AF these lenses better. The Panasonic JPEG engine has improved a lot since the G2 and GF3 but the colours are still subtly different from the Olympus JPEG colour (raw solves that one)
Thanks for commenting, Ananda.
Also deciding on which one, either one used in the sub 900$ bracket, prob Panasonic because I already own done of it's glass
I’d like to see you swap these two cameras for a couple of days and then give your impression of how they compare
Something to think about😀
Also, I have been looking and waiting for Peter's bag! Is that the Manfrotto X Olympus bag? We can't buy that here in Malaysia. Looks like I must plan a trip to Finland to buy one.
You have to come and the sooner the better!😀
It is Robin an Olympus bag made by Manfrotto.
@@ForsgardPeter I want one!!! To replace my cheap bag haha
A Wong-Sulanto-Forsgård video... Wouldn't that be something🙂
I'm a fan of Peter, but I prefer Matti's images in this case. In any case, it's funny listening to Finnish guys speaking in English. Cheers.
Thanks for commenting.
I consider these 2 cameras plus the FujiFilm XT3 siblings.
I'm not sure if you've done this but I'd love to see a video when you and Peter exchange cameras and explain how each one feels about the other one's camera, handling, focusing, etc. I think that would be quite interesting.
Thank you,
Gary
It's a good idea and we have to consider that after the virus is over.
@@mattisulanto
Thanks. I hope you are well and keeping safe.
Gary
Hi Matti.
Actually, i just realized from other comments that a camera switch with Robin Wong would also be a great idea to see how both of you take to the other's equipment. When possible, of course.
- Gary
Cool video, thank you. How does the black and white modes compare? I guess the Lumix is a nose ahead.
We didn't compare every feature side by side, besides if you shoot RAW, you can get any kind of B&W you like. Thanks for commenting.
I love to watch this kind of Video! Go on!I like to look over the fence and compare the Panasonic with my Olympus gear !!!
Thank you!
I own an original Olympus OM-D E-M1 and a Panasonic G85, and there are strengths and weaknesses to both.
Panasonic's video quality is superior to Olympus's...no doubt about it. My G85 stomps all over my E-M1 for video and, from what I understand, produces even better results than the much more expensive E-M1 II. Not only that, but I've definitely had my battles with the weak pre-amp in my E-M1, and I understand that is no better on the E-M1 II. The G85 has an excellent pre-amp...you can even use it outdoors with the built-in mic in a pinch as long as the wind isn't kicking up. I do understand the pre-amp has been greatly improved on the E-M1X, but that's a lot of money. Hopefully, the upcoming E-M5 Mark III will address the pre-amp issue at a more affordable price.
But I think Olympus's phase-detect autofocus is superior to Panasonic's DFD, especially because I get to use PDAF with Olympus glass on the E-M1. And I definitely prefer my Olympus 12-40mm and 40-150mm f2.8 pro lenses to Panasonic's 12-35 and 35-100mm f2.8 lenses. Not only does the 40-150mm have a longer reach than the 35-100mm, you can extend that reach even farther with teleconverters. Plus, the Olympus lenses have those nifty manual focus clutches with hard stops and a distance scale. I've rented the E-M1 II before, and it takes that autofocus to a completely different level. I have found the C-AF tracking performance wanting when putting Olympus glass on my G85. Plus, PDAF works even if you put Panasonic lenses on an Olympus camera!
I honestly wish the E-M1 II and GH5 would have a baby and make a near-perfect video camera like the GH5 with phase-detect autofocus like the E-M1 II.
Thanks for your comment. It's true that there's not one perfect camera, but even if there was, it wouldn't be perfect for everyone😀
Olympus is the only manufacturer of M43 cameras that uses hybrid AF, which (as I'm primarily a video shooter) may be enough to make me switch brands from Panasonic. On the other hand, Olympus doesn't make a truly video-centric mirrorless hybrid like the GH5. It's kind of frustrating that there is enough technology between the two companies to meet my needs, but no single camera body combines them. A successor to the GH5 with the continuous AF capabilities of an EM1Mk iii would be a game-changer!
Hej Matti, hej Peter!
What about a comparison between the Pana Leica 50-200 2,8-4 and the Oly Pro 40-150 2,8?
Would be a pleasure to see you guys in those video!
Greetings from Austria,
Klaus
That's a good idea, maybe in the future.
Hi, it'd have been useful if you had the photos/videos taken by both cameras with the same prime, say a 50 mm prime and juxtaposed them for comparison.
Yes, it would have.
Looking forward to it in your future videos. Thank you.
When I made this decision last year I was starting from scratch. I tried to focus on the lenses rather than the bodies. It's likely that I will keep the lenses longer than the body. What I found frustrating was getting clear answers about cross-brand compatibility. As far as I can tell from reviews there seems to be some evidence of better within-brand autofocus and image stabilization performance. I ended up with a G9. I particularly liked the prospect of good compatibility with the leica 8-18mm with its filter thread - which allows me to use polarizers and ND filters without carrying around a bulky square filter system and adaptor etc. The leica 50-200mm was also attractive for my purposes because it is more compact than the olympus alternative.
Thanks for your input. It seems that AF works better with the same brand lenses. However, as far as I know, it's not bad on any combination and the downsides are more pronounced in special occasions, like shooting flying birds. In "normal" photography they all seem to work pretty well.
I've used both Olympus and Panasonic bodies and lenses. I've not worried much about interchanging brands. Indeed I think it's one of the really nice things about the m43 system. Both companies are making some great lenses and we have quite a lot of choice to suit our individual preferences. Lumix says that DFD works only with the Panasonic lenses. That may indeed be true but most of the Olympus lenses I've used on Panasonic bodies focus fine. Perhaps if you're using high frame rates and CAF it might be better to use Panasonic lenses, but for most uses the lenses there is no issue. I think Panasonic and Olympus handle UV a little differently. I think some of the Panasonic lenses are more prone to CA on Olympus bodies, especially some of the earlier Panasonic lenses. The 7-14, for example, was pretty well known for CA issues on Olympus bodies. Dual stabilization doesn't work across brands, so that could be a consideration. For most uses, I'd look more at the specific lens characteristics than brand.
Some special features, like Pro Capture (can’t remember the Panasonic term) work at full capacity only with same brand lenses. Also, Dual IS only works on same brand. For most lenses and most photography, no difference across brands
g9 has been updated with firmware making it nearly as good as the gh5. Moi Moi. Porvoo a pretty town East of Helsinki. both cameras here are good for 4/3. kiitos Marty Sender UA-cam
Hi Matti, hallo Peter,first of all, I'm a Lumix G70 user since 4 years and because of the age of the camera, I'm thinking about a new one. My thoughts are to stay with Panasonic or to change to Olympus. The decision isn't allready made...Your vid helps a lot to get an idea about the differences of the two bodies. And my conclusion is: there is not really a serious difference!Let's see which one I'm going to buy, but of course it will be a 4/3 one..:-)Thanks a lot for this input and please continue with this kind of videos together with Peter!Regards Holger
Thanks for your comment.
Thanks
Nice comparison. Funny thing is, they did not discuss autofocus. But we all know who will win in this category.
True, we left quite a bit out to keep the video in decent length. Thanks for you comment.
Pretty fair - both great cameras and fairly priced now they’ve come down from their original rrps. I have the EM1 mk1 and the G9. I like both, but while there are pros and cons to either systems I generally prefer (not just with these models) the Panasonic ergonomics.
I was contemplating before buying the G9 going back to full frame (but mirrorless). But the G9, especially with a speed booster and fast glass mitigates the disadvantages of a smaller format to such a degree it doesn’t seem worth the massive investment.
Thanks for your input.
I wish you could redo this review with the new updates.
Maybe, but can't promise.
Hi Matti. Keep up the great work! I actually have a question on a older video regarding Metering Preview. I hope its OK to mention here as this is a more recent thread. Enjoy as best you can given the situation. Keep safe.
-Gary
Matti; if you are in need of a new idea for your channel; perhaps you and Peter could consider redoing your comparison of the EM1 Mark II or now with the EM1 Mark III and the G9 using the Panasonic 2.0 firmware which came out after your original video. Just a suggestion if you guys are looking for ideas. I follow you both and have learned much from your videos. Thanks
Thanks for your suggestion. Something for the future.
I shoot with the Olympus EM5 mk ii and do a lot of night and long exposure. Does Lumix offer anything similar to Olympus's LiveComp or LiveTime features?
So far there's only one Lumix that offers Live Comp and that is the G90/95, but I hope they'll include the feature on many future models.
Hi Matti, thank you so much for this informative and well-made video! You and Peter are a great team! I am considering to buy the G9, however I was surprised it has no internal flash at all. I know you like to use fast prime lenses, and I could also install an external flash, however I feel this is tedious. Do you never miss the opportunity to simply switch on an internal flash?
BR, Erwin.
Thanks! Well, most semi pro and pro cameras don't have a built in flash. I don't use on camera flash, so I don't miss it.
Very fun video, thanks! You guys should do more videos together, loved the banter. I own the Panasonic G9 and love it. But I would definitely not mind if I had ended up with the Olympus E-M1 mk II. They both seem so similar. They are micro 4/3rds cameras at their best. The one thing I'd say is Olympus designs their cameras very attractively (like the Pen F). The EM-1 mk II is a bit more pedestrian but still nice looking. A nice little extra.
Thanks! There's more to come.
Nice video.
Regarding AF face and eye detection. Which camera has the higher hit rate?
What about bird in fly. Sport etc. Who will win? And is the Sony A7III, A9 or A6400 superior here?
I don't know about e-m1 mk2, but I switched from e-m1 to a much cheaper G7 and never look back.
I own both cameras and I like them both very much. On the Olympus Battery is much better. It charges super fast and lasts for over 1200 Pictures. The Autofocus is fast an reliable. On the G9 the Autofocus for Wildlife ist perfekt. With the near and far feature you can get images I could not get with any other camera on the market.
The thing I like most about them: They are compatible. Put a m.zuiko lens to your G9 Body or a Panasonic Leica lens on your Olympus. With those cameras you´ve got so much choices. I´m really into the MFT-System!
Thanks. It's a great systems😀
Finly, having been watching severel videos of you and Peter I came to the conclusion to buy a G9 wit the Leica 100-400 and the Olympus 12-100 Pro. The G9 I prefer due to the clearer Ergonomy of the hardware and the dialogue over the EM1. The Oly 12-100 is for my view the more universal and better travel lens, despite the loss of dual stabilisation. My question is, can I swith between in body stab. and In Lens stab. ? Thanks, and Regards from Hamburg, Johannes
Thanks! Unfortunately you can't switch between the stabilizers.
thanks, ok at least the lens stabilisation will do its good job and should work well for up to 200mm (full equiv.).
@@johannesdewald5487 With a telephoto lens an optical stabilizer is the best, or Dual IS, if that's available.
Do a video where you switch cameras and then tell us what you think about the others camera
Compare each others menu and controls and be brutally honest please.
How about the Menus I've suffered the Olympus menu for 8 years not user friendly
Dials and controls on my son g9 are way easier
Thanks for your comment. We have to think about that in the future.
i appreciate videos that both of you guys put out but this one feels like listening search result "lumix g9 vs e-m1 ii" in European accents. To many easy information that are right on the paper which are easy to read then watch.
I was hoping for comparison in intuitive or operational point of view. I noticed omd only offer target point based touch pad AF? I used lumix GX85 and that can point or trace to any point. Thats the verdict on G9. This make overall experience whole lot different when you first grab the system or just using it once in awhile for most casual users out there. Can anyone confirm?
Kiva video! Voisit useimmin näyttä tämmösiä kivoja paikoja!
You two guys crack me up! I have owned an Olympus. I am either going to buy the OMD EM1 Mark ii, OR the Lumix G9. Should I get the Lumix?
Sean (from Atlanta)
Thanks! If you ask me, the G9 is of the nicest cameras out there😀
@@mattisulanto Thanks, Matti! I enjoy, and learn, from your videos!
Sean
I got a Pana G1 soon after it came out around ten years ago and have had both Pana and Oly equipment in a mix. One thing that has irritated me for a long time is the sometimes lack of compatibility between Oly and Pana. They do share system and then I as a customer should also get things that works in a system. Like now, there is the problem with weaker UV-filter in Oly bodys making Pana lenses not work so good in certain areas. And the dual IS does not work between the brands. And not the DFD. And not the aperture ring and so it goes. I feel it is a stupid marketing fight between them instead of making sure they fight the other systems instead. This was one of the reasons I went to Sony.
Thanks for your comment.
You're right about this. I think they will probably destroy the M43 platform if they continue with this. I don't know how much I loose by using the Olympus 12-100mm on my Panasonic G9, but for the quality and zoom range I just had to get the Olympus lens. Did you guys ever test how much you loose in autofocus and stabiliser performance by using an Olympus stabilised lens on a Panasonic body?
@@olesheim I have a video of the Oly 12-100mm f/4 if you search my channel. Right now there are only two stabilized Olympus lenses, so the IS compatibility is not a huge issue. On telephoto lenses optical stabilizer is always a better solution. On standard to wide lenses IBIS works very well, but of course Dual IS is the best on any lens. Would be nice, of course if they were 100% compatible, but even as it is, the m43 is quite unique system.
@@mattisulanto Thank you! I will search.
It would have been nice to see how big the downsides of mixing lenses would be. Maybe a topic for your next video together - use Oly on Pana and opposite.
Cool Features of the g9 are the Joystick and the top Display, an the on/off switch on a better place.
You can move the on/off switch function on the Olympus.
@@cmalc really? How?
To be honest -> it was nice to watch you guys walking around and having a good time. But a real comparison might be quite different. One of the main questions would be about the af-quality or are there high iso differences - f.e. Is there an important difference in DFD-technology compared to Olympus? By the way - if you shoot pictures it would be nice if they would be comparable. We all know that these mft-flagships will produce great quality but the difference is important. With this in mind (I own the G9, a PEN-F and the first M1) you should talk about how Olympus and Panasonic care about their products. While Olympus pushes out the V3 Firmware with lots of new features for the M1 Mark II Panasonic released the V1.3 - just to make a new lens work - no new features at all. And you didn't speak about the incredible sensitive shutterrelease button on the G9 at all - a "thing" lots of users don't like at all.
Thanks for your feedback. I'm sure there would be many other things to cover between these cameras and maybe we'll cover some of them in the future.
This new Peter & Matti show is amazing! :3
Thanks!
Thank you!
As far as photo quality and color goes, I lean hard towards the Lumix in this test. The colors pop and the gradations are better. The Olympus images seem to have less dynamic range (likely just processing) and a more grungy look, maybe Peter was using a filter? My gear is about 50% Panasonic, 30% Canon, and 20% Sony. I've slowly been adding to the Lumix side as the size to performance ratio is more in line with my preferences. I have looked at Olympus but I don't really like the body asthetics, menu system, or stock color calibration so I stick with Panasonic. There are some Olympus lenses that I might consider in the future though.
Thanks for sharing. We all have our preferences, but of course I'm happy that you lean towards Lumix😀
@@mattisulanto I have a G9 with the 12-60 Leica on order now so I'm definitely excited to see how big of a step up that will be from my older Lumix bodies.
You guys did not talk about contrast focus or phase detect focus i use the Panasonic G9 my next one is the olympus EM-1 Mark3 you are gonna have to make another Video
We have been planning to make another one, but we both seem to be too busy to find the time.
As far as I can tell the only thing better about the Olympus is the weight with slightly better focusing and the video resolution is higher. Other than that the G9 is superior in every other way for the stills photographer. Although as we know, those differences turn out to be more marginal than you first think. But the G9 in my opinion still rates as the best overall MFT camera on the market.
Olympus kind of fell on it's sword by moving into the specialist sports/wildlife arena with the E-M1X because it seemingly didn't learn anything from the G9. However, it's all semantics as Olympus still make great and innovative cameras and keep the MFT format strong and formidable in the marketplace.
Thanks for your comment.
You must be so excited that the G9 incredible update is coming before the end of November.
Yes, it looks like a pretty awesome update.
what’s G9 update dude? I don’t know anything. Can you tell me about this news..
@@BagusWibisono Please search my channel, I have a video of the update. It's a firmware update that came out late November 2019.
that hoodies is dope!
G9 offer remote control shooting on your phone like Olympus? My EM-1 mark 1 is giving me issues and I took it to a repair person and he said Olympus supplies no parts.
Yes, you can control pretty much all recent Lumix cameras remotely with your phone.
I was looking to em 1 but it has smaller grip, no top lcd and no af joystick, really bad. On the other hand only problem I find on g9 is the contrast only AF.. Which is still a deal breaker in comparison. I hate the market things, you still can't have a complete camera in 2019, you always have to choose what not to have 😕
That's true, but I'm afraid there's never gonna be one 100% perfect camera.
@@mattisulanto they won't, thats the fact 😕 to create stupid and also against the consumer market "separation"
Good stuff, you should definitely do more videos together. No winners here, both cracking cameras.
Thanks, there is more to come😀
Ive decided to go for the g9 because
I think the 8-18mm and 50-200mm leica lenses Are the lenses for me
Oly has the 12-200mm for the em1 mark ii toughest decision
But i already have theleica 12mm and 42.5mm lenses
Thanks for sharing.
Please help me. I have a gh5 and a EM1 m ii. I take photo and video. I think it's better for me to change EM1 with a G9.
But I have only Zuiko pro and Sigma lens. Is it a problem to take photo? Thanks
The G9 is a better video camera than the M1 for sure.
If you already have the GH5 you should know how your lenses perform on a Lumix camera.
@@mattisulanto yes but not for AF. GH5 It's less accurate of em1. I don't know if G9 si better of GH5. Thanks
@@lvca.avellino I haven't done any side by side comparison between the GH5 and G9, because I don't have the GH5. However, the G9 probably has a bit better AF system.
Thanks for sharing Matti and good to see Peter have a shave for summer. Porvoo looks a lovely place. Were the visitors all Finnish or an international crowd? Do you speak Swedish or Norwegian yourself?
Thanks! Most tourists are international. We both speak Finnish as our first language.
Well, I shave every now and then, usually too late!
These have more reasonable prices now. I love buying more expensive cameras further down the model life :)
An late comment .. I got both…prefer the handling of the Panasonic g9…prefer the stabilization of the Olympus …evf dark with high contrast motives on the panasonic …
Nice to Watch you together! If I Need to choose between those cameras I would choose the G9 because I have alredy one GH4 and one GH5 and they use the same battery. BUT.... Im dreaming with the em1 since 2016! It fits perfect in my hands and works Great with some Olympus glasses that I have! The price is also important. And hier in Germany the G9 is the best Deal! vLog on em1 is a very good think! BUT is dificult to understand why olympus „forgot“ to Update for 4K 50p in the Firmware 3.0...
Thanks for commenting.
What does Peter Forsgard carry around in this bag? A 600mm F4? A Survival kit and proviant?
You'd have ask Peter, but in general, when we make these videos, we have to carry the video gear too, which an average photographer doesn't have to do.
Matti and Pete show the Finnish version. Great video again.
Thanks, Filip.
Hello you two
I will buy a second camera
I have been using my beloved Lumix GX8 with 14-140 for 3 years now... I have now bought a Olympus 60 mm Macro for Macro and Portraits
I now bought the lumix 25mm 1.7 ... lovely small sharp and narrow depth of field.... GX8 and 25mm is great for street photography
I am having a heart time choosing
I love the G8 and looking at the G9 with status display and 6 K makes me want to buy it
on the other hand I now own the Oly 60mm. I respect Olympus history and find it a sympathetic brand...
Some My Friends at Fotoclub Zillertal Tyrol Austria do love and own the Olympus OMD1 mk2 and make great pictues with it.
2 QUESTIONS❓❓❓
Can the G9 do focus stacking in RAW like the OLY mk2 or just in a boiled down 8mp JPEG❓
Why on earth does the cheaper Lumix 91has live Composite like the Olympus live view and the G9 doesn’t will there be aa Firmware Update for that
If only JPEG for the G9 I have to buy an Olympus
Question two is less important but still live composite is a benefit
HELP ME PLEASE❓🤔🤔🤔
The G9 can do focus bracketing in RAW, but can't combine the photos in camera. You have to combine the photos later in Photoshop or some other application. So far the G90 is the only Lumix to have the Live comp and I don't know if it's coming for any other models.
sulantoblog Thanks so much you 2 Finnish Heroes
Sorry Peter but it will be the Lumix G9 for me...
Which has some advantages for me like similar menu structure and better compatibility with the (I need to safe money again) wish lens the awesome ❗️ Leica 100-400
But hey Peter not so sad I bought a Olympus 60mm lens yesterday😍
And well I cannot guarantee not buying other Olympus lenses in the Future
Cool you are both Finnish at Fotoclub Zillertal (Tyrol Austria) who has a pro photography service for BtoB... Which is quite cool since he is an expert on Lightroom too. All other members use Photoshop...
But in my Opinion Lightroom is more than sufficient in for Photographers (both Hobby and Pro) in 80/90 % percent of the cases.... What is your take on this.
Question❓
Which SD cards make sense for the G9
With Top cameras. like the G9 and the the OM d1 one does not want to lower the performances by using inferior SD cards...
On the other hand SD cards can be very fast but also very expensive and my G9 takes two to tango
What makes sense here and what is a waste of money or over the top
Kiitosja rakkaus tervehdys Tirolilta👍
(hope google translate did well here🤔)
@@PeterVlutters I've had good experience with Sandisk cards, but make sure the card is fast enough for your purposes. I can't give you any specific card, because there are so many of them. I have Sandisk Extreme 300mbs cards, but I think so fast is not necessary.
@@mattisulanto Thanks a lot my G9 is on it's way😍😍😍
after watching so many videos from you....i would like to make my move to buy lumix, but which one ? ...i shoot landscape...i like smooth grain less images, and i print A3+ sizes of the prints , any suggestions for me to which model should i go for please taking into considerations the 3 requirements above
If you do your part properly, you should get really nice A3+ size prints from any Lumix camera. I'd recommend the G9, because it has the best weather sealing.
@@mattisulanto and why to one would need to put extra $400-600 into the most expenive lumix of the line just for WS instead of buying $20 weather protection hood on ali ? would they fire you right away for ambassador place if your advise ppl giving less money to panasonic ? :-)
Really difficult to decide between these two cameras.. I'd love one as a second system and see how it goes. Will it become my decisive switch from Canon? ..time will tell! Good video, thanks for sharing!
Thanks! Some decisions are tough, but I hope you'll make the right one for you😀
@@mattisulanto the price and quality of the own branded lens selection and which one is better for shooting sports and video capability, will be decisive for my needs. Thank you for your reply!
Nice video. Olympus is more expensive than G9. So it should be better compared to GH5. Though the features are quiet similar, G9 does have a bigger EVF and 60 FPS 4K Video mode. M1 Mk2 is a little Bit smaller.
Overall that are two great cameras. Considering the price G9 is a clear winner.
Thanks for the comment.
I jumped down the rabbit hole of mirrorless cameras, with no experience with photography. I am currently saving up for my first proper shooter, and as of right now I am considering the G9. I will be using it as a learning platform for traveling, street, and wildlife/landscape while hiking the mountains. Will the G9 fit the bill, is the Olympus a better option, or would you recommend a completely different camera?
I really like the G9 and so do many others, but it's really hard for me to say which camera is the right one for you, because what I like may not be what you like. The G9 is compact and robust camera that suits well for travel, hiking etc. I suggest you try it before you buy, if it's possible. Rent it for a weekend maybe or go to your nearest camera store and handle it a bit, if nothing else.
I’m torn between these 2 cameras. I’ve owned an E-M10 II as well as a G80/85. I enjoyed both, the ergonomics on the G80 were better for me. I’m currently on a Sony A7iii but I can’t stomach the lenses (cost and weight). Photography is a hobby for me, and the Sony eco system isn’t geared to people like me.
I would’ve liked to see more of a comparison between autofocus. The PDAF on the Oly is what’s drawing me to it. The autofocus on the G80 wasn’t especially confident to me. Single AF was ok, if not quite good; however CAF was a struggle. I’m not a sports photographer but trying to track my children when they’re running around for example had a very low hit rate. I’m hoping the Oly would remedy this. The Sony for sure does.
I subscribe to Peter which is how this video got recommended to me, I really enjoyed it and will subscribe.
Thanks for subscribing.
I'm trying to make the same decision right now... what did you choose? I have small hands, and I love my Oly em5 m2. The g9 costs more now, used. I don't have a ton invested in glass with olympus or panasonic, a foot in both doors.
@@TischTosh I ended up buying both and enjoying both. I would say the pros of the G9 are handling, menus, UI. On the Olympus is was definitely the PDAF, it tracked better and has a higher hit rate than the G9. I could safely recommend both. Sorry I couldn’t be more conclusive.
Is that was a wicth in bright sunny day? 12:07
There's a big difference between what you get with IBis and what you get when using a flash they are two very different schools of photography. Personally I think using flash definitely has its benefits
Flash and IBIS are two completely different things and they are not interchangeable, in my opinion. It's comparing apples and onions, really.
@@mattisulanto correct but my point was and everybody using IB is in white apertures just ends up making the same sterile uninteresting image. People get real lazy about being creative with flash, artificial lighting and Lighting in general. I haven't met a photographer under 30 that understands lighting ratios when I asked them.🤷 or photography history for that matter and that's truly disparaging
@@unbroken1010 That may be true, but I would still not compare IBIS and flash, because they both are for different purpose.
It's like asking would you prefer shallow depth of field or fast shutter speed?
I do agree with you, that it's important to know some history and understand where we are coming from and what is the foundation of modern photography.
@@mattisulanto have you use the ibis with vintage glass? I'm really deciding about getting one of these if I can find a workaround for headphones. The price of omd m1 2 and g9 are down plus open box specials on the GH4. Z50 is nice but the lenses are expensive . I do have the xh1 which is a great sensor and slightly different and how it reads files. I should have bought the xt3 when it was on sale but I didn't have the money. I don't know if the headphone is imperative but I don't like doing sound separately I don't always have to research this for editing.
@@unbroken1010 IBIS works well with vintage glass. The g9 has the headphone jack and the M1mk2 has it too.
I've been watching a lot of your videos tonight and I have to say they are so much more entertaining when you have a guest to riff off of and joke with! You should consider working with co-hosts more often!
Yes, I know that and let's see what happens in the future. Thanks for your feedback.
I had both cameras and this is my opinion and differences between them. I photograph sport and mainly car, motorbike racing. Panasonic has better JPEG files, better viewfinder but Olympus Evf works much better while shooting burst . 60 fps video and slowmotion on panasonic, better afc in movie mode on m1 mii. Panasonic has both uhs2 slots, but Olympus cleans the buffer 2 times faster and is still able to shoot 8-9 fps !!!, but the second slot is slower. USB to power in Panasonic, but a much better battery in Olympus. Olympus pro capture is better, pansonic hi-res is faster, olympus ibis is slightly better, olympus has a focus limiter!!!, which is huge for me. After firmware 3.1 better afc on Olympus with Pansonic and Olympus lenses, slightly better AF in low light on Panasonic. Better face and body recognition in Panasonic. panasonic is cheaper.
Panasonic does not work with the Olympus teleconverter. I don't know if Olympus works with a Panasonic teleconverter.
Thanks for your extensive comment.
Why don't you switch camera's ...would be great . Matti the E-M1II and Peter the G9 ......
Thanks for commenting. That's something we have to think about in the future.
sulantoblog Or swap Oly lens on Pana or the other way around .... to get a real comparison. I have Oly camera and Pana lenses ...... ! Get the best out both of them. So don’t quarrel .... educate and have fun both of you ..... !
Awesome video as usual. Why sony or nikon ambassadors (or fuji lol) are not making funny comparison videos like this.
Thanks!