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Can you help me decide which one should I buy sony 16-35 gm2 or 24-70 gm2. I m just a hobbyist photographer n like to shoot portrait of family n travel photographs. I don't like to keep changing lens n want to travel light with light setup. Please suggest. Just for info I have the following but I don't like to switch n want to have one lens on my camera Sony 11mm f1.8 Sony 50mm f2.8 Sony 90mm f2.8 Sigma 30mm f1.4 Sony 18-135mm f3.5-5.6 kit lens (I usually use this most as I don't have to switch)
Completely agree. I have the mark 1 and wondered for a long time whether a mark 2 would surface and how different it might be. Perhaps it would be 14-35 or 15-35, with image stabilisation, or be 30-40% lighter? It feels too similar to the gm 1 to upgrade and spend so much. I would get £1000 tops for my mark 1 so would have to pay out around £1300. The 24-70 mark 2 was a big improvement over the mark 1 and perhaps more justifiable, but not this 16-35
Image stabilization? Because sony FF cameras come with IBIS you will never see image stabilization in their lenses ever again. Even the APS-C lenses aren't getting image stabilization though the majority of APS-C cameras out there don't have IBIS since it has only been recently introduced for APS-C.
@@almightyri1757 that’s true. When I was with canon I had the 15-35 RF which was massive - because of the IS. Canon seem to be putting IS into everything. And it’s all chunky and expensive.
For me the perfect allround lens is the 24-70 GM ll. Sometimes I wish a bit more of the wide angle but most of the times 24 is wide enough and I use the 35-50 mm range or even the 70 mm for details way more often.
Appreciate Sony keeps the research and development going to bring an incrementally upgraded lens. I don’t have the first one. Both of my GM lenses are fixed focal length so I am seriously considering this one. Thank you 😊
16-35 is indeed an all arounder but not perfect or irreplaceable. Internal zoom and 15mm wide would have been perfect. There are still a lot of budget-friendly 3rd-party options (for less than 1/3 of the price) such as Tamron 20-40, 17-28, Viltrox 16 1.8, and the upcoming Tamron 17-50.
Hi Pierre! Can you make a video with Sony ZV-E1 for its photography aspects? I'm really interested in this camera since it's tiny and has great ISO performance.
I'm happy with the MARK 1. I am fascinated by the quality of this lens. Never could compare this lens with other competitors such as Sigma, canon etc,. Anyone would agree
My Sony 16-35mm F/2.8 GM II arrived in the mail just now. As someone who has handled it, can you tell me if the barrel is supposed to be loose inside? Lens works well, but when you turn it over, the insides literally feel like they're slamming back and forth. I've never had a lens do that. Normal? Thanks!!
I had the same reaction when I first received the 20mm 1.8. “It’s broken!”. Actually it is fine - that is the linear autofocus - it moves like this when no power is applied but is how it focuses so fast. Completely normal for Sony lenses with the latest autofocus.
Hi Pierre, Great presentation it looks like a really nice Lens and it did make sense. Especially being lighter it makes a difference if your shooting all day. Thanks for showing us this new Sony 16-35mm F/2.8 GM 1.
my 16-35 just broke in London last week, now I don't know if I should fix it, buy another gm 1, or just buy the gm 2 lol. Most likely going to just pay for the repair, but man its just a bummer lol
Can you help me decide which one should I buy sony 16-35 gm2 or 24-70 gm2. I m just a hobbyist photographer n like to shoot portrait of family n travel photographs. I don't like to keep changing lens n want to travel light with light setup. Please suggest. Just for info I have the following but I don't like to switch n want to have one lens on my camera Sony 11mm f1.8 Sony 50mm f2.8 Sony 90mm f2.8 Sigma 30mm f1.4 Sony 18-135mm f3.5-5.6 kit lens (I usually use this most as I don't have to switch)
Why would a hobbyist be buying a 2k wide-angle lens? Get the PZ you do not need a GM lens, they are made for professionals and the GM II is specifically a landscape lens. You also have 4 primes....what sort of kit is that? You don't seem to know what you're doing!
I love my Sigma 16-28 f2.8. Of course it would be nice to have the extra 7mm, but actually it's also nice, that it's not extending when zooming and it's smaller and lighter. So... I guess it's a draw.
I have 14mm 1.8, 50 1.2, 90 macro 2.8 and just ordered the 70-200 GMii. The 16-35 GMii peaked my interest, as it fills the gap between 14 and 50, but after seeing reviews i may just eventually get the GM 1. Once my bank account recovers.
This isn't the same, but why not get the 16-35 f4? Internal zoom and power zoom handy for video. I know the 1 stop difference, but everything a trade off. Plus save of $1K.
I wasn't really paying attention to the video at the beginning and when you said "Sony has been cooking" AND OPENED UP THE DAMN GRILL I LAUGHED SO HARD LMAO
Why would you upgrade to the new lens when the old one is just fine? One who does not have that lens will definitely go for the new one. Will anyone see the difference in the final product's photos by either lens? No. Will experts notice any difference? No.
16-35GM was the first glass for my A1. I hiked over 1,500 miles across America with 16-35GM, and I look back at it with regret because the AF was constantly off. When I switched to the 20G, I had a much higher hit rate and the images are much sharper than what the 16-35GMII can produce. The glass I’m waiting for is a 24mm F1.2 with Quad XD-Linear Motors at around 680 grams or less. Imagine how ridiculous a F1.2 24mm on the A1 is going to be, because it’s going to be sharp and that is the glass to salivate over........ 24GM AF motors are not as smooth as the 20G motors. 24GM is not the 24 Prime for the A1
I’ve had 14-24mm f/2.8 Sigma & 12-24mm F/4 Sony. F/4 isn’t enough. Sigma less money with only 2mm difference. 12-24 f/2.8 GM vs 16-35 f/2.8 GM ii I think 16-35 would be more beneficial, more focal length to zoom in with and because the 12-15mm (in 12-24) is pretty distorted, only advantageous for unique dramatic landscape, astrophotography, or low angle fashion portraits. I used to be team 12-24/14-24 but now I’ll be selling and purchasing 16-35mm. My top 4 lens are 16-35mm 2.8 GM ii 24mm 1.8 GM 50mm 1.2 GM 70-200mm 2.8 GM ii
Have the GM I. Definitely NOT worth the upgrade from GM I. After I got the 12-24 GM I don't use the 16-35 too much unless I need to use screw on filters which I dont use much either. Now can Sony finally release a 85 GM 1.2 please...
Lots of truth here! I just found a used (only 10 times!! Perfect condition) 16-35mm GM version 1 for $1K!!! I just tell people save $1,300 and find a good deal on a used 16-35mm GM 1 lol 😂 great video
The gm1 is already really sharp. Slightly soft corners at 35mm but it’s hardly a deal breaker imho. Only Astro folk would really be looking closely at the corners and besides, those Astro folk would probably prefer the wide primes options.
@@colliescameraaction8944my GM1 wasn’t sharp...it never gave me the feeling the 20G does and I guarantee you the GMII is better, but I’ve drunk the Prime Poison...and there is no going back. For Video first shooters, 16-35GMII is the holy grail...but I prefer to do stills and a 20G is always going to defeat a 16-35GMII, especially when that 20G has the 50GM on the A1 sitting above it
@@hikertrashfilms I’m with you on primes. I have the Sony 14GM, 20G, 24GM, and 35GM. The 16-35GM1 is still decent and outperforms using primes when I want to shoot in difficult conditions where lens changing isn’t ideal, but failing that I like the small fast primes better. I can’t be persuaded by this 16-35GM2 - it’s simply not different enough from GM1
@@colliescameraaction8944 is saying the 20G AF motors are more responsive and accurate than the 24GM motors a correct statement? I am 99% certain it’s true. 24GM & 400GM were the first XD motors and the 300GM shows the 400GM is slower than it could be on the A1 because it has half the torque power on the motors than is necessary to handle the weight of the glass effectively and change AF during a 30 shot burst at 50MP and have eye AF track the subject correctly.... 24GM has motor issues when you compare that to the 50GM, along with green fringing and chromatic aberrations because it was one of the first GM Primes and they learned very quickly how to improve the motors and that is reflected in the much sharper AF on the A1 with the 20G. 300GM is going to have faster and better AF than the 400GM on the A1 and it’ll show that the 400 & 600GM need the newer motors in 2025
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Can you help me decide which one should I buy sony 16-35 gm2 or 24-70 gm2. I m just a hobbyist photographer n like to shoot portrait of family n travel photographs. I don't like to keep changing lens n want to travel light with light setup. Please suggest. Just for info I have the following but I don't like to switch n want to have one lens on my camera
Sony 11mm f1.8
Sony 50mm f2.8
Sony 90mm f2.8
Sigma 30mm f1.4
Sony 18-135mm f3.5-5.6 kit lens (I usually use this most as I don't have to switch)
Again,100% honest. Absolute LOVE for that.
I wish they’d update the 24-105, would be a good combo to have both.
...no screw all these zooms and slow glass. We need a F1.2 GMaster
@@hikertrashfilms That would be nice too
Completely agree. I have the mark 1 and wondered for a long time whether a mark 2 would surface and how different it might be. Perhaps it would be 14-35 or 15-35, with image stabilisation, or be 30-40% lighter? It feels too similar to the gm 1 to upgrade and spend so much. I would get £1000 tops for my mark 1 so would have to pay out around £1300. The 24-70 mark 2 was a big improvement over the mark 1 and perhaps more justifiable, but not this 16-35
Image stabilization? Because sony FF cameras come with IBIS you will never see image stabilization in their lenses ever again.
Even the APS-C lenses aren't getting image stabilization though the majority of APS-C cameras out there don't have IBIS since it has only been recently introduced for APS-C.
@@almightyri1757 that’s true. When I was with canon I had the 15-35 RF which was massive - because of the IS. Canon seem to be putting IS into everything. And it’s all chunky and expensive.
For me the perfect allround lens is the 24-70 GM ll. Sometimes I wish a bit more of the wide angle but most of the times 24 is wide enough and I use the 35-50 mm range or even the 70 mm for details way more often.
I had the 24-70GM I, annoyingly large and heavy but despite that incredible lens for any situation. Regretted so much for selling it.
I agree
Appreciate Sony keeps the research and development going to bring an incrementally upgraded lens. I don’t have the first one. Both of my GM lenses are fixed focal length so I am seriously considering this one. Thank you
😊
12-24 GM v.s 16-35 GM2, which one to get?
Other lenses available:
24-70 GM2, 70-200 GM2, 35 GM, 50 1.2 GM
It's a to small upgrade for me anyway.. Would rather have seen the update on the 85GM.. So I will stick to the 1. gen :)
Same!
@@hikertrashfilms year? ;)
16-35 is indeed an all arounder but not perfect or irreplaceable. Internal zoom and 15mm wide would have been perfect. There are still a lot of budget-friendly 3rd-party options (for less than 1/3 of the price) such as Tamron 20-40, 17-28, Viltrox 16 1.8, and the upcoming Tamron 17-50.
Plus the 17-28 have a much smaller foot print, it can be stowed upstraight in a lot of camera inserts, while the 16-35GMII cannot.
i buy 16-35 GM II and im so happy with it !!! now everything is much more easy and it do fantastic job
Hi Pierre!
Can you make a video with Sony ZV-E1 for its photography aspects?
I'm really interested in this camera since it's tiny and has great ISO performance.
I'm happy with the MARK 1. I am fascinated by the quality of this lens. Never could compare this lens with other competitors such as Sigma, canon etc,. Anyone would agree
Wow, thanks man. I don't think I saw any of your videos before. I'm about to buy either the gm or the gm ii and you helped me a ton! All the best 🙌
Which one did you end up picking? Im deciding also mi or mii
Is the extra 400 really worth it?
@user-id8bx8fk3v I bought the mark II, and I'm in love with it. Tried for astro and street and works brilliantly. Good luck
My Sony 16-35mm F/2.8 GM II arrived in the mail just now. As someone who has handled it, can you tell me if the barrel is supposed to be loose inside? Lens works well, but when you turn it over, the insides literally feel like they're slamming back and forth. I've never had a lens do that. Normal? Thanks!!
I had the same reaction when I first received the 20mm 1.8. “It’s broken!”. Actually it is fine - that is the linear autofocus - it moves like this when no power is applied but is how it focuses so fast. Completely normal for Sony lenses with the latest autofocus.
No issue, you get used to it... sounds weird, though!
Hi Pierre, Great presentation it looks like a really nice Lens and it did make sense. Especially being lighter it makes a difference if your shooting all day. Thanks for showing us this new Sony 16-35mm F/2.8 GM 1.
Great video. Good explanation as to who it is for.
my 16-35 just broke in London last week, now I don't know if I should fix it, buy another gm 1, or just buy the gm 2 lol. Most likely going to just pay for the repair, but man its just a bummer lol
Can you help me decide which one should I buy sony 16-35 gm2 or 24-70 gm2. I m just a hobbyist photographer n like to shoot portrait of family n travel photographs. I don't like to keep changing lens n want to travel light with light setup. Please suggest. Just for info I have the following but I don't like to switch n want to have one lens on my camera
Sony 11mm f1.8
Sony 50mm f2.8
Sony 90mm f2.8
Sigma 30mm f1.4
Sony 18-135mm f3.5-5.6 kit lens (I usually use this most as I don't have to switch)
Get the 24-70 and ditch you 50mm 2.8 if it's not a macro
Why would a hobbyist be buying a 2k wide-angle lens? Get the PZ you do not need a GM lens, they are made for professionals and the GM II is specifically a landscape lens. You also have 4 primes....what sort of kit is that? You don't seem to know what you're doing!
I love my Sigma 16-28 f2.8. Of course it would be nice to have the extra 7mm, but actually it's also nice, that it's not extending when zooming and it's smaller and lighter. So... I guess it's a draw.
Thank you for actually being honest
You have to make video on sony zve10 street photography ....most people want to know what zve10 can do ......
I appreciate the honest review
I have 14mm 1.8, 50 1.2, 90 macro 2.8 and just ordered the 70-200 GMii. The 16-35 GMii peaked my interest, as it fills the gap between 14 and 50, but after seeing reviews i may just eventually get the GM 1. Once my bank account recovers.
Hi Piere! Hows it going out there? Any exciting trips coming up? That where you live on the West-loop? Nice place :D
You've been to the Philippines? I would love to see that video!
Merci Pierre ! Je crois que je partirai sur la version 1
Tonns off difference in video mode between gm1 vs gm2 tho
This isn't the same, but why not get the 16-35 f4? Internal zoom and power zoom handy for video. I know the 1 stop difference, but everything a trade off. Plus save of $1K.
Probs because it’s almost as much as an used GM1 for less light.
I just purchased the 16-35 pz for my A7RV and passed on the GMii 16-35. The PZ is an amazing lens on par with the GMii at F4. Worth every penny!
I don’t have this lens so I’m going to go ahead and get it lol but if I had GM 1 then I wouldn’t upgrade
Depends on your needs and budget 😁
I wasn't really paying attention to the video at the beginning and when you said "Sony has been cooking" AND OPENED UP THE DAMN GRILL I LAUGHED SO HARD LMAO
Why would you upgrade to the new lens when the old one is just fine? One who does not have that lens will definitely go for the new one. Will anyone see the difference in the final product's photos by either lens? No. Will experts notice any difference? No.
Skipping it. If version 3 has oss and internal zoom. I’ll buy it
They already have that dumba$$... it costs $5,000 & they are gonna update that glass again around this new optical formula in the next 18 months
Sony GM lens is crazy expensive, so they should start all the zoom lenses with internal zoom.
16-35GM was the first glass for my A1. I hiked over 1,500 miles across America with 16-35GM, and I look back at it with regret because the AF was constantly off. When I switched to the 20G, I had a much higher hit rate and the images are much sharper than what the 16-35GMII can produce. The glass I’m waiting for is a 24mm F1.2 with Quad XD-Linear Motors at around 680 grams or less. Imagine how ridiculous a F1.2 24mm on the A1 is going to be, because it’s going to be sharp and that is the glass to salivate over........ 24GM AF motors are not as smooth as the 20G motors. 24GM is not the 24 Prime for the A1
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It seems sony is out of their mind.
They should have at least added OSS to it. Or else WTF there is no updates ?
16-35 GM II or 12-24 GM @Pierretlambert?
I’ve had
14-24mm f/2.8 Sigma
& 12-24mm F/4
Sony.
F/4 isn’t enough. Sigma less money with only 2mm difference.
12-24 f/2.8 GM vs 16-35 f/2.8 GM ii
I think 16-35 would be more beneficial, more focal length to zoom in with and because the 12-15mm (in 12-24) is pretty distorted, only advantageous for unique dramatic landscape, astrophotography, or low angle fashion portraits. I used to be team 12-24/14-24 but now I’ll be selling and purchasing 16-35mm. My top 4 lens are
16-35mm 2.8 GM ii
24mm 1.8 GM
50mm 1.2 GM
70-200mm 2.8 GM ii
Have the GM I. Definitely NOT worth the upgrade from GM I. After I got the 12-24 GM I don't use the 16-35 too much unless I need to use screw on filters which I dont use much either. Now can Sony finally release a 85 GM 1.2 please...
Lots of truth here! I just found a used (only 10 times!! Perfect condition) 16-35mm GM version 1 for $1K!!! I just tell people save $1,300 and find a good deal on a used 16-35mm GM 1 lol 😂 great video
alot of people will order the version 1 when prices drop
Couldn’t even make it 15 😂
Nice review!❤
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If they stabilized the lens like canons 15-35….that would be a no brainer upgrade
Imagine asking for Stabilisation on a wide angle lens, and moreover when Sony cameras has IBIS 🤣🤣
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The new lens is sharper.
Yea in the corner but I don’t need a sharper lens usually :)
The gm1 is already really sharp. Slightly soft corners at 35mm but it’s hardly a deal breaker imho. Only Astro folk would really be looking closely at the corners and besides, those Astro folk would probably prefer the wide primes options.
@@colliescameraaction8944my GM1 wasn’t sharp...it never gave me the feeling the 20G does and I guarantee you the GMII is better, but I’ve drunk the Prime Poison...and there is no going back. For Video first shooters, 16-35GMII is the holy grail...but I prefer to do stills and a 20G is always going to defeat a 16-35GMII, especially when that 20G has the 50GM on the A1 sitting above it
@@hikertrashfilms I’m with you on primes. I have the Sony 14GM, 20G, 24GM, and 35GM. The 16-35GM1 is still decent and outperforms using primes when I want to shoot in difficult conditions where lens changing isn’t ideal, but failing that I like the small fast primes better. I can’t be persuaded by this 16-35GM2 - it’s simply not different enough from GM1
@@colliescameraaction8944 is saying the 20G AF motors are more responsive and accurate than the 24GM motors a correct statement? I am 99% certain it’s true. 24GM & 400GM were the first XD motors and the 300GM shows the 400GM is slower than it could be on the A1 because it has half the torque power on the motors than is necessary to handle the weight of the glass effectively and change AF during a 30 shot burst at 50MP and have eye AF track the subject correctly.... 24GM has motor issues when you compare that to the 50GM, along with green fringing and chromatic aberrations because it was one of the first GM Primes and they learned very quickly how to improve the motors and that is reflected in the much sharper AF on the A1 with the 20G. 300GM is going to have faster and better AF than the 400GM on the A1 and it’ll show that the 400 & 600GM need the newer motors in 2025