@@jesterblackguarde8464 usually paintball compressors are exactly the same as scuba diving compressors except for some filters that are only needed for breathing air.
I sub to a lot of people on YT that could be described as "builders of contraptions," and I have to say this one is my favorite at the moment. Looking great!
@@peldiman Stuff made here, Jimmy Diresta, Colin furze, grind hard plumbing, and many others. There are thousands of smaller channels making more specific stuff, like this one :)
When you get the high pressure compressor, I recommend that you submerge the "tornado" in water when you are filling it, like we do when filling scuba-diving bottles. They get extremely hot and can explode, although maybe that particular one will be strong enough to withstand it. Something to think about, though.
Tornado? We always called them torpedos from where I’m from. Most especially after a particularly nasty incident where a valve failed and the tank really did become a torpedo, launching through the building’s wall, someone’s car, rocketing down the pier, breaking a telephone pole (albeit it was slightly rotted) before finding the ocean and powered off to god knows where. Poor guy got a valve shot through his gut but he’s doing alright from the last I heard.
@@firesidegaming536 Wow, those things can be lethal and you have to treat them with a lot of respect, especially the valve! The new name for them is «tornado»! 0:45 as Sandra called it. You must have missed that bit!
Tim, check with your local fire brigades for an old air pack compressor. We would turn it on and it would fill the air pack bottles overnight and then auto-shutoff.
I'm glad to see the way you implemented the gear lever, it's pretty much exactly how I would've done it and what I wanted to suggest on the last video but couldn't come up with a good way to explain in text. I'm a bit concerned about how close it looks to the flywheel though, maybe it's just perspective but I think some sort of guard might be a decent idea - actually it might not be the worst idea to make some sort of sheet metal housing that covers the entire operator seat side of it since it seems like it could be pretty easy to fall face-first into the spinning wheel if you accidentally bump the gear lever or have a hard shunt or whatever.
Hi Max, going off on what you recommended, I would also suggest to extend the frame of the loco around the seat so it doesn't look like the chap is suspended bare behind in the middle of the air like that. It would also serve to absorb some of the impact should there be a crash. If Thomas the Tank engine thought me anything is that train crashes do happen. Even at low speeds.
That is a clever gearshift. Might I suggest a bar between you and the flywheel as a bit of a safety to prevent you falling on the wheel, or maybe a handhold of some type. The ride might be a bit bumpy at times.
I just hope he adds a emergency shut off! Last year my glove got caught in a table saw and if I hadn't been able to quickly shut it off I might have lost my whole hand instead of just mangling my fingers. I can imagine clothes getting stuck in the large fly wheel or shoe laces in the belt and that would be quite disastrous.
Back when scuba diving was new people used to make their gear from junk and plumbing. I seem to recall popular mechanics having a design for a diving bottle compressor using a fridge compressor. Low volume high pressure though.
I confess that at the 0m45s mark, to my mind the horizontal cylinder had me wondering if the valve snapped off and the compressed air escaped violently, you would have the Newtonian action/reaction thing going nicely, workshop-to-wood-shed in about three seconds. You could call your beast "The Rocket"! I know for sure that the next video will show loco-motion with a wonderful rhythmic clanking sound, exactly as a locomotive should sound. Please and Thank you: can we celebrate with an extra long video, taken from far and near, with Captain Tim puttering back and forth? About ten minutes of that would keep me happy for hours ... Congratulations! Chris.
Good luck on the three stage compressor! If you find one, be prepared for hours of run time to get that bottle to 4400 psi. Great thinking on your build.
Love your build. It may not be ultra modern looking or have a fancy gearbox but it works. It is your ingenuity that makes this special. Keep up the interesting inventing.
I enjoy your thought process on this build and your 20th century outlook on health and safety, you will be giving the armchair experts nightmares, good on you.
Man, I wish I had your working mechanical knowledge. I don't know the FIRST thing about putting things together. I cannot WAIT to see this thing running, I'm so excited!!! It's nearly done!!!
Just as a note for future knowledge... You might be able to repurpose some gear for an up-compressor. The shortline railroad I used to work for had a home built water pump they built for conducting the hydrostatic test in the locomotive boiler. Using shop compressed air at ~135psi, an old locomotive air pump then pumped the water to the boiler... 135psi acting on an 8½in piston on one end, and a 1¼in ram-rod on the other... We were able to generate around 300psi output. I know that still doesn't reach your needed 3kpsi, but the idea might help somehow.
You can put a few fridge compressors in series and reach a decent pressure. A benefit is that it's usually easy to find a few of those. It will be slow to recharge but that usually isn't a problem
I don't know anything so I may be wrong but this doesn't sound safe! I'd expect the compressors to fail shortly past their rated pressure. Am I misunderstanding?
@@emlyfox their rated pressure is decent. 30 to 50 bar difference iirc. And they can safely deal with a little bit more if kept cool. Just read the label ymmv
one possible source for compressor would be a hand pump version for paintball/air guns. They are "cheap", they make the pressure but would take forever by hand. a walking beam contraption running one on hit and miss would be neat.
I think what you need first is some sort of framework to stop you failing or being drawn (via loose clothing etc) into the mechanism! I dearly want you to survive this journey of invention....
Amazing as usual Tim! I feel like you should do a short version, like 12 mins, of the whole build once it's up and running, more people need to see this and maybe that would help 🤔 always hugely inspired by your ingenuity!
Tim, you're ingenuity and fabricating skills never cease to blow my mind. I watch and get this idea, "oh he needs to do this or that," Then you find a McGuyver like way that is so simple and practical and makes total sense in the long run. Bravo my man. Bravo
Rocket didn't have brakes when she was first built. I'd focus on getting her running before worrying about ways of stopping - especially when you can rely on friction to stop for you. Breaks are also comparatively easy when compared to a gearbox. A second lever and a brake "shoe" sounds like plenty. Congrats, incidentally, on making a working gearbox! I didn't think it would be so easy, but you managed it!
This is looking better and better by the day, Tim. Can't wait to see its maiden voyage! On a lot of older quarry and not-passenger-services locos, the driving position is actually facing out the side of the vehicle rather than forwards - not sure why, perhaps easier to get on/off while it's in operation ? Might be worth a shot if the current setup gets a bit close for comfort! 😁
I was going to say “get a few cheap compressors and connect them in series to make a multi-stage,” but it would be easy to exceed the pressure rating of some part or connection, and I want you to be safe!
Check fire stations for the high pressure pumps! I worked at a scrapyard and we had several come through during the few years I worked there. Apparently it’s common for them to collect dust until a shiny piece of equipment is DYING to take its place in the station.
Tim, for brakes, just a brake-shoe pressed against the fly wheel should be the easiest and most effective (but I guess you've already considered that!) It's all starting to look very Trevithick - can't wait to see it going.
Big no-no there, you must be present to brake. Do like they do on a real train. Use a spring to press against the wheel and Tim-power to "unpress" the brakes. If ever your train chucks you in the hedgerows the spring will do the braking.
@@tonywatson987 I did not mean to use my foot either. I refer to the way trains and trucks brake. They use fail safe devices that will continue to brake even if something breaks. Nowadays they use springs to close the brakes and air to open them. If the air fails the springs will force the brakes shut and everything stops. I admit I might have worded it a bit back to front.
@@astranger448 I know that trains use fail-safe brakes; I've been on a heritage railway where the train could not move because there was a leak in the braking system, meaning the carriages' wheels were locked.
You have to be joking. There are videos of road legal vehicles or not so legal ones out on the web. Very much makes sense and are really cool on this thing. It looks like a accident just waiting to happen yea. Only really crazy part is the big torpedo bomb. Otherwise it is a work of art! There are lawnmowers that look more scary and crazy then this thing. But they are old! Real real real old. But I mean we survived having them around ;)
Maybe consider a third position in the shoe so it can be locked in neutral? For the brakes, you maybe need a separate parking brake and friction brake. For the parking brake, a hole in one of the flanges that you can put a rod through and into the frame should work. For the friction brake, maybe a section of drum brake liner on a lever above the wheel where you can just put your foot on it?
Nice project. Fire department uses also high pressure compressors. Here upto 4500 psi. Pumping up a 50 liter to 3000 takes quite a big compressor and lots of time and electricity. Good luck, really enjoy your tinkering !
Your ingenious designs are absolutely amazing very impressive I must say . Really do enjoy seeing what you have come up with next . Can't wait to see the ole girl run on its own power down the track
*@Way Out West - Workshop Stuff* 4:37 You can form the leaver to be like an upside down J, so you can reach further away (at the tradeoff of closer to you, but you can move the hand forward on the leaver then instead).
This is the most amazing locomotive I've ever seen in my life! I'm looking forward to seeing him ride the rails with the wagons. It would be interesting to know how much power it will give out.
" know how much power it will give out" I agree, and I believe that Tim should have measured (with butcher's spring scales) the drawbar force required to haul one or two laden wagons. That would then be an acceptance test. With that data to hand, the pull could be monitored at every step pf the workshop job, which would tell him/us when the loco was sufficiently strong, and work could then stop as soon as possible. chris
Tim, great job as usual. About the brake, there is something else you need, which might combine with a brake, Trains have a dead man switch, to stop the train if the driver is incapacitated. Make some hand or foot operated shut off valve on the air tank so you have no air unless you operate it (that's the dead man part). Make that switch work in such a way that it not only lets air in when asked to do so, but also stops air from going out the moment you stop (voluntary or involuntary). That should lock up both cylinders and brake. The valve on your air hose could do to try this out.
If you turn the seat sideways, you'll have just as good visibility in either direction, rather than having to look over your shoulder the whole time when going backwards.
As someone mentioned it's looks like it belongs in the early 1800's. Can't stop a man with and idea and the gumption to see it thru. Be really sharp painted with a steampunk theme.
Honestly it's far safer in this form though. The amount of stored energy in a steam pressure vessel is ridiculous, if one of those bursts you're screwed. And hot steam is very corrosive which makes bursts more likely. I love steam but I'll be happy to see this remain an air engine!
A hand break on the flywheel might be a good idea, in case you need to stop it spinning. For stopping the engine, wheel-chock breaks will give you the most traction, and act as a nice parking break as well. For stopping the whole train though? You are really supposed to have breaks on every car so you don't get jackknifing.
A third slot in the middle of the shoe for a neutral gear perhaps? Great stuff. Looking forward to seeing it working, and interested to see how you decide to engineer the brakes.
I think the best, cheapest and easiest option is to use 2 3way valves to switch the air hoses between the cylinders to reverse the engine. That way you don't need any belts, clutches and so on, just use a chain to connect both(!) axles to the engine. I'm pretty sure you will get problems with slipping belts when pulling a heavy load, the chain eliminates those problems...
I am sure you've thought of this, but a Johnson bar will be important as this controls the valve to the pistons of a steam and compressed air locomotive. As I see it, what you have is a 0-4-0 locomotive. As for making her into a steam engine, you may want it to be a 0-4-2 locomotive so as to support the firebox. Wood firing is what you'd want. Although you may need a tender as it may end up being a two man show running the locomotive. One to drive, and one to stoke the firebox. You could have it be without a tender, and be a one man show, but that'll mean more work and less fuel.
@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 : If I remember correctly, it's possible to reverse the motor, it just requires a lot of valve hose reconnections? If that's true, just do that once, and it will all be the right way around.
I think that this all depends on how you define "forward". All Tim needs do right now is move the sticky label that reads "front" to the other end of the the machine and problem solved! And while we are at it, a swivel-seat so that Tim can always face the direction he is going.
With a load on brakes will be very much needed. Have a parking brake latch on them to hold the train when your not on board. Looking good so far Tim. Cheers 🇨🇦
I bet you could make a locomotive that runs off a cordless dewalt drill with the really nice batteries. You could keep a few fully charged batteries rite on the locomotive ready to pop them in on the fly (if needed) I thought of this after seeing you sitting on the rig and turning the flywheel by hand and I saw how it was geared. Thanks / I love this type of stuff.
Wow, if someone had told me before this project that you could make a locomotive using compressed air that would move people / things / large stuff I wouldn't have believed them. This is amazing and really hope that it works out!!!
In terms of brakes, you could just do what the early engineers did, which is when you want to stop you put the locomotive into the other direction and p r a y . Joking aside, this is really shaping up to be a remarkable build, keep it up!
I almost wet myself when I heard you where strapping a "Tornado" to the Air powered Loco, move over "Stephenson's Rocket".... here comes the fastest Loco in the West. Hehe.
the gas cylinder looked like similar to the one on the side frame of a Shay Locomotive as a gas cylinder for the trains brake. But this looks better the train does, brilliant engineering
The high pressure compressors are in the 1000s here in the US. It’s probably better to take the tank somewhere, & have it filled at a scuba shop. Some places charge u a fee to have it per year, so yeah. For a more reliable option it’s probably cheaper to have a gas powered air compressor in a tender that feeds a secondary tank on the engine as well as the compressor tank, so u have more air on demand.
Hi Tim. Hello from New Zealand and nice progress on the gear system. I have used refrigerator compressors to generate high pressure air before. Somewhere in the range of 700psi I think we reached. Not the highest flowrate but cheap/free and quiet!
Locking mech looks good. Chipper might benefit from something similar. I don't like how close you are to the giant wheel of finger removal though. In addition to guards as others have suggested, a bent lever as used for some car gear shifts might be the ticket.
The tanks of that type often have a concrete like substance inside them that keep the liquid from boiling off to quickly when the pressure is released. It's safety device.
For the brakes, I think using a mechanical hand brake would fit the style of the loco very well and it isn't really that hard to make. Good luck on your project! Can't wait for next upload!
Tim - you could also look for a used paintball compressor which is around the same sort of pressure (c.200bar) and a lot more reasonably priced.
Paintball compressors, at least consumer grade ones, would burn out before they filled a tank that big to pressure.
@@jesterblackguarde8464 surely you could add cooling, or do it in stages though?
@@jesterblackguarde8464 usually paintball compressors are exactly the same as scuba diving compressors except for some filters that are only needed for breathing air.
Yea a lot cheaper
I hope he sees this. He definitely doesn't need the kind of special equipment required for air that people breathe.
Every pioneering locomotive designer would be proud of you. And envious of your CNC cutter and welder! 😊
Thanks, Pauline. Yes, they've changed my life : - )
I sub to a lot of people on YT that could be described as "builders of contraptions," and I have to say this one is my favorite at the moment. Looking great!
please share some channel names!
Yeah dude, share channel names! o.o
Yes please!
share channels!!!
@@peldiman Stuff made here, Jimmy Diresta, Colin furze, grind hard plumbing, and many others. There are thousands of smaller channels making more specific stuff, like this one :)
No, the lady was correct. Tornado, what a wonderful name for a loco powered by wind. Especially when one of the dearest components is the seat!
This is coming together really nice, its starting to look like an actual 1800s locomotive!
I would say early 1800s.
Your engine looks absolutely trevithic, Tim!
"trevithic" is almost as bad as "a huge fan of the compressed air " (grin)
Trevithic would be proud. How far his humble contraption has come over 250 years
This is a great comment xD
I glaced and saw terrific and then read and saw trevithic, and I'm happy with both answers
Absolutely true I didn’t even think of that. It looks just like his engine.
You absolutely need to get a top hat for when riding that - anything else wouldn't be fitting!
"cap", as they say, "ital".
@@cprgreaves you're just full of bad puns today aren't you? Lol
YES! just like Trevithick!!
This is such a cool project, I love all the on-the-fly engineering and modifications. It's fun to see a whole railroad built from the ground up!
When you get the high pressure compressor, I recommend that you submerge the "tornado" in water when you are filling it, like we do when filling scuba-diving bottles. They get extremely hot and can explode, although maybe that particular one will be strong enough to withstand it. Something to think about, though.
I had no idea about this! Awesome comment!
Tornado?
We always called them torpedos from where I’m from.
Most especially after a particularly nasty incident where a valve failed and the tank really did become a torpedo, launching through the building’s wall, someone’s car, rocketing down the pier, breaking a telephone pole (albeit it was slightly rotted) before finding the ocean and powered off to god knows where.
Poor guy got a valve shot through his gut but he’s doing alright from the last I heard.
@@firesidegaming536 Wow, those things can be lethal and you have to treat them with a lot of respect, especially the valve! The new name for them is «tornado»! 0:45 as Sandra called it. You must have missed that bit!
Tim, check with your local fire brigades for an old air pack compressor. We would turn it on and it would fill the air pack bottles overnight and then auto-shutoff.
I'm glad to see the way you implemented the gear lever, it's pretty much exactly how I would've done it and what I wanted to suggest on the last video but couldn't come up with a good way to explain in text. I'm a bit concerned about how close it looks to the flywheel though, maybe it's just perspective but I think some sort of guard might be a decent idea - actually it might not be the worst idea to make some sort of sheet metal housing that covers the entire operator seat side of it since it seems like it could be pretty easy to fall face-first into the spinning wheel if you accidentally bump the gear lever or have a hard shunt or whatever.
Yes! Definitely the flywheel should be covered and separate from the driver's seat. As it is, it looks quite dangerous!
Yeah needs some sort of gaurd.
Hi Max, going off on what you recommended, I would also suggest to extend the frame of the loco around the seat so it doesn't look like the chap is suspended bare behind in the middle of the air like that. It would also serve to absorb some of the impact should there be a crash. If Thomas the Tank engine thought me anything is that train crashes do happen. Even at low speeds.
Contact your local Paintball guys. They ususally have the lead on old scuba compressors as they also use high pressure air.
That is a clever gearshift. Might I suggest a bar between you and the flywheel as a bit of a safety to prevent you falling on the wheel, or maybe a handhold of some type. The ride might be a bit bumpy at times.
I just hope he adds a emergency shut off! Last year my glove got caught in a table saw and if I hadn't been able to quickly shut it off I might have lost my whole hand instead of just mangling my fingers. I can imagine clothes getting stuck in the large fly wheel or shoe laces in the belt and that would be quite disastrous.
Back when scuba diving was new people used to make their gear from junk and plumbing. I seem to recall popular mechanics having a design for a diving bottle compressor using a fridge compressor. Low volume high pressure though.
I confess that at the 0m45s mark, to my mind the horizontal cylinder had me wondering if the valve snapped off and the compressed air escaped violently, you would have the Newtonian action/reaction thing going nicely, workshop-to-wood-shed in about three seconds. You could call your beast "The Rocket"!
I know for sure that the next video will show loco-motion with a wonderful rhythmic clanking sound, exactly as a locomotive should sound.
Please and Thank you: can we celebrate with an extra long video, taken from far and near, with Captain Tim puttering back and forth? About ten minutes of that would keep me happy for hours ...
Congratulations! Chris.
Good luck on the three stage compressor! If you find one, be prepared for hours of run time to get that bottle to 4400 psi. Great thinking on your build.
Love your build. It may not be ultra modern looking or have a fancy gearbox but it works. It is your ingenuity that makes this special. Keep up the interesting inventing.
I enjoy your thought process on this build and your 20th century outlook on health and safety, you will be giving the armchair experts nightmares, good on you.
Currently watching this from a hospital bed and this is just amazing watching this pile of scrap turning into a loco
Hopefully not from a loco accident I hope?
If you think about it this is like a more primitive battery locomotive
with the compressed air tank being the battery
Man, I wish I had your working mechanical knowledge. I don't know the FIRST thing about putting things together.
I cannot WAIT to see this thing running, I'm so excited!!! It's nearly done!!!
Just as a note for future knowledge... You might be able to repurpose some gear for an up-compressor. The shortline railroad I used to work for had a home built water pump they built for conducting the hydrostatic test in the locomotive boiler. Using shop compressed air at ~135psi, an old locomotive air pump then pumped the water to the boiler... 135psi acting on an 8½in piston on one end, and a 1¼in ram-rod on the other... We were able to generate around 300psi output. I know that still doesn't reach your needed 3kpsi, but the idea might help somehow.
interesting - thanks!
What happened to the railroad and loco ? Are there videos of it JDG Industries ?
@@RailPreserver2K plenty of videos of said railroad: "Arcade & Attica". ua-cam.com/video/_SmmTczTT_Y/v-deo.html
Brilliant progress - definitely ‘Air’ Punk - though I am sure steam will follow at some point knowing Tim 🤣
You can put a few fridge compressors in series and reach a decent pressure. A benefit is that it's usually easy to find a few of those. It will be slow to recharge but that usually isn't a problem
I don't know anything so I may be wrong but this doesn't sound safe! I'd expect the compressors to fail shortly past their rated pressure. Am I misunderstanding?
@@emlyfox their rated pressure is decent. 30 to 50 bar difference iirc. And they can safely deal with a little bit more if kept cool. Just read the label ymmv
I am in awe of your homebrew engineering.
This is by FAR, my favourite build on UA-cam right now. Evolving design is a slow process but that selector mech is ideal.
one possible source for compressor would be a hand pump version for paintball/air guns. They are "cheap", they make the pressure but would take forever by hand. a walking beam contraption running one on hit and miss would be neat.
The most elegant contstruction ! Real time travel machine ! Although in one direction only !
Thanks Tim
And all the best for your projects.
It is refreshing to watch your videos
Ive said this before and I say it again there’s more in your head than you take out with a comb brilliant Tim
I think what you need first is some sort of framework to stop you failing or being drawn (via loose clothing etc) into the mechanism! I dearly want you to survive this journey of invention....
Amazing as usual Tim! I feel like you should do a short version, like 12 mins, of the whole build once it's up and running, more people need to see this and maybe that would help 🤔 always hugely inspired by your ingenuity!
Good idea - but I wouldn't want to bore anyone. And of course it might not work..
Tim, you're ingenuity and fabricating skills never cease to blow my mind. I watch and get this idea, "oh he needs to do this or that," Then you find a McGuyver like way that is so simple and practical and makes total sense in the long run. Bravo my man. Bravo
Thanks, Caleb : - )
Footrests would be a good addition as well, I think. Nice engineering!
Rocket didn't have brakes when she was first built. I'd focus on getting her running before worrying about ways of stopping - especially when you can rely on friction to stop for you. Breaks are also comparatively easy when compared to a gearbox. A second lever and a brake "shoe" sounds like plenty.
Congrats, incidentally, on making a working gearbox! I didn't think it would be so easy, but you managed it!
Brakes only slow you down!
This is looking better and better by the day, Tim. Can't wait to see its maiden voyage!
On a lot of older quarry and not-passenger-services locos, the driving position is actually facing out the side of the vehicle rather than forwards - not sure why, perhaps easier to get on/off while it's in operation ? Might be worth a shot if the current setup gets a bit close for comfort! 😁
You can see forwards and backwards without moving around and yes its easier to jump on and off to operate points etc....
Good idea. With that carriage bolt, he would just have to rotate the seat 90 degrees, no more fabrication needed. Boom. Sitting sideways.
Very nice work! Similar gear train to a sawmill slide table. Using belts for forward, neutral and reverse. Well done
I was going to say “get a few cheap compressors and connect them in series to make a multi-stage,” but it would be easy to exceed the pressure rating of some part or connection, and I want you to be safe!
Check fire stations for the high pressure pumps! I worked at a scrapyard and we had several come through during the few years I worked there. Apparently it’s common for them to collect dust until a shiny piece of equipment is DYING to take its place in the station.
What an artwork! R L Stevenson would have been proud!
Tim, for brakes, just a brake-shoe pressed against the fly wheel should be the easiest and most effective (but I guess you've already considered that!) It's all starting to look very Trevithick - can't wait to see it going.
Big no-no there, you must be present to brake. Do like they do on a real train. Use a spring to press against the wheel and Tim-power to "unpress" the brakes. If ever your train chucks you in the hedgerows the spring will do the braking.
@@astranger448 I didn't mean a shoe for your foot, I meant a brake shoe! Even I wouldn't want to stop a flywheel with my foot! 🙂
@@tonywatson987 I did not mean to use my foot either. I refer to the way trains and trucks brake. They use fail safe devices that will continue to brake even if something breaks. Nowadays they use springs to close the brakes and air to open them. If the air fails the springs will force the brakes shut and everything stops. I admit I might have worded it a bit back to front.
@@astranger448 I know that trains use fail-safe brakes; I've been on a heritage railway where the train could not move because there was a leak in the braking system, meaning the carriages' wheels were locked.
@@tonywatson987 Lol, here is the two of us teaching a train builder how to build trains ;-)
This is probably the craziest contraption that I've seen, I really want to see it running! :-)
You have to be joking. There are videos of road legal vehicles or not so legal ones out on the web. Very much makes sense and are really cool on this thing. It looks like a accident just waiting to happen yea.
Only really crazy part is the big torpedo bomb. Otherwise it is a work of art! There are lawnmowers that look more scary and crazy then this thing. But they are old! Real real real old. But I mean we survived having them around ;)
@@TheDiner50 When I said crazy, I meant it in the best way...
That locomotive is actually pretty amazing, as well as being crazy.
Maybe consider a third position in the shoe so it can be locked in neutral?
For the brakes, you maybe need a separate parking brake and friction brake. For the parking brake, a hole in one of the flanges that you can put a rod through and into the frame should work.
For the friction brake, maybe a section of drum brake liner on a lever above the wheel where you can just put your foot on it?
Nice project. Fire department uses also high pressure compressors. Here upto 4500 psi. Pumping up a 50 liter to 3000 takes quite a big compressor and lots of time and electricity. Good luck, really enjoy your tinkering !
Absolutely loving this series. Well done Tim!
Your ingenious designs are absolutely amazing very impressive I must say . Really do enjoy seeing what you have come up with next . Can't wait to see the ole girl run on its own power down the track
Something else you should app is a hand crank so if the air runs out you can move the train with a small load on it by hand
I just forgot this to. Make it so you can revise pump the air so you can use the hand crank to make your own air on the go if needed
@@momopojo1415 For your information you can always edit your comments by clicking on the 3 vertical dots to the right of comment.
It just start from a wheels and then, we have a almost completed engine which look nice. Great job!
*@Way Out West - Workshop Stuff*
4:37 You can form the leaver to be like an upside down J, so you can reach further away (at the tradeoff of closer to you, but you can move the hand forward on the leaver then instead).
This is the most amazing locomotive I've ever seen in my life! I'm looking forward to seeing him ride the rails with the wagons. It would be interesting to know how much power it will give out.
" know how much power it will give out" I agree, and I believe that Tim should have measured (with butcher's spring scales) the drawbar force required to haul one or two laden wagons. That would then be an acceptance test. With that data to hand, the pull could be monitored at every step pf the workshop job, which would tell him/us when the loco was sufficiently strong, and work could then stop as soon as possible. chris
This is some really neat stuff, cant wait to see her running.
Tim, great job as usual. About the brake, there is something else you need, which might combine with a brake, Trains have a dead man switch, to stop the train if the driver is incapacitated. Make some hand or foot operated shut off valve on the air tank so you have no air unless you operate it (that's the dead man part). Make that switch work in such a way that it not only lets air in when asked to do so, but also stops air from going out the moment you stop (voluntary or involuntary). That should lock up both cylinders and brake. The valve on your air hose could do to try this out.
I hope this venture hasn't become too expensive
Good luck in your future endeavors.
This project and series are golden.
If you turn the seat sideways, you'll have just as good visibility in either direction, rather than having to look over your shoulder the whole time when going backwards.
Good point, but on the other hand it’s not as easy to operate the levers
As someone mentioned it's looks like it belongs in the early 1800's. Can't stop a man with and idea and the gumption to see it thru. Be really sharp painted with a steampunk theme.
Hi Tim. Yes, brakes first. Safety.
While I’m not a huge fan the compressed air idea, I do very much like the overall idea. I hope to eventually see it running on steam.
Honestly it's far safer in this form though. The amount of stored energy in a steam pressure vessel is ridiculous, if one of those bursts you're screwed. And hot steam is very corrosive which makes bursts more likely. I love steam but I'll be happy to see this remain an air engine!
you would need bigger cylinders
you would need bigger cylinders
Yeah, energy from matter state conversion is not really dense. Nuclear drive would be far more effective.
@@wwlb4970 The way he's going, he's soon going to have Doc Brown's Mr. Fusion running this thing!
A hand break on the flywheel might be a good idea, in case you need to stop it spinning. For stopping the engine, wheel-chock breaks will give you the most traction, and act as a nice parking break as well. For stopping the whole train though? You are really supposed to have breaks on every car so you don't get jackknifing.
Loving this little Locomotive Build. Should see about one with a stationanary/ hit n miss
A third slot in the middle of the shoe for a neutral gear perhaps?
Great stuff. Looking forward to seeing it working, and interested to see how you decide to engineer the brakes.
I think the best, cheapest and easiest option is to use 2 3way valves to switch the air hoses between the cylinders to reverse the engine. That way you don't need any belts, clutches and so on, just use a chain to connect both(!) axles to the engine. I'm pretty sure you will get problems with slipping belts when pulling a heavy load, the chain eliminates those problems...
I am sure you've thought of this, but a Johnson bar will be important as this controls the valve to the pistons of a steam and compressed air locomotive.
As I see it, what you have is a 0-4-0 locomotive. As for making her into a steam engine, you may want it to be a 0-4-2 locomotive so as to support the firebox. Wood firing is what you'd want. Although you may need a tender as it may end up being a two man show running the locomotive.
One to drive, and one to stoke the firebox. You could have it be without a tender, and be a one man show, but that'll mean more work and less fuel.
Wow. I feel like I'm watching the first steam engine being invented all over again... incredible.
This is the best show on UA-cam. Such fun to watch along
Forward for forward would be good but thats really mean of me to say, sorry, I love everthing you do, such interesting projects and lovely narative,
I agree, but that would have needed another linkage and more to go wrong
@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 : If I remember correctly, it's possible to reverse the motor, it just requires a lot of valve hose reconnections? If that's true, just do that once, and it will all be the right way around.
I think that this all depends on how you define "forward". All Tim needs do right now is move the sticky label that reads "front" to the other end of the the machine and problem solved!
And while we are at it, a swivel-seat so that Tim can always face the direction he is going.
Looking more and more like an entry for the ‘Rainhill Trials’. Fantastic!
With a load on brakes will be very much needed. Have a parking brake latch on them to hold the train when your not on board. Looking good so far Tim.
Cheers 🇨🇦
Your loco is looking really smart! The big flywheel reminds me of Trevithick's Coalbrookdale locomotive.
I bet you could make a locomotive that runs off a cordless dewalt drill with the really nice batteries. You could keep a few fully charged batteries rite on the locomotive ready to pop them in on the fly (if needed) I thought of this after seeing you sitting on the rig and turning the flywheel by hand and I saw how it was geared. Thanks / I love this type of stuff.
This is coming together amazingly! Looking great! Cont wait to see it work!
Every time i see a new video of the locomotive project, i get excited to see it.
Hi, it look like you are doing a weeding dress, without any drawing !!!
Keep going ,you gonna get it !!!!
You just reminded me of Alf Garnett "You didn't say you wanted brakes".
Wow, if someone had told me before this project that you could make a locomotive using compressed air that would move people / things / large stuff I wouldn't have believed them. This is amazing and really hope that it works out!!!
That’s basically how the “fireless” locomotives worked on industrial lines
Tim is actually just blowing my mind with all of these recent videos!
When it is totally up and running without a hitch, have a contest on what colors to paint it!
Well, what use is the loco going to be if it doesn't have a hitch? He won't be able pull the wagons then.
In terms of brakes, you could just do what the early engineers did, which is when you want to stop you put the locomotive into the other direction and
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Joking aside, this is really shaping up to be a remarkable build, keep it up!
i love your videos on this type of stuff, it kinda takes my mind off of things and if im bored ill watch things like this
I recall the Festiniogg railway has one or two compressed air locos.
Brakes would be a good idea. Stephens rocket was originally built without brakes and ended up running over its own designer.
This is turning out so awesome!
If you're going to decide on a name, "Tornado" would be apt for such an air-engine!
Thanks. Yes, a few people have suggested that and I like it.
Awesome Tim! Coming together nicely over there!! 😁
Thanks, Joe. Glad you're checking in.. : - )
i have loved watching this project unfold, keep up the amazing work you're doing.
Wow! It is really coming together nicely eh? Eagerly awaiting the next update!
looking forward to seeing it run
So good Tim. Cant wait to see it roll
I almost wet myself when I heard you where strapping a "Tornado" to the Air powered Loco, move over "Stephenson's Rocket".... here comes the fastest Loco in the West. Hehe.
the gas cylinder looked like similar to the one on the side frame of a Shay Locomotive as a gas cylinder for the trains brake. But this looks better the train does, brilliant engineering
The high pressure compressors are in the 1000s here in the US. It’s probably better to take the tank somewhere, & have it filled at a scuba shop. Some places charge u a fee to have it per year, so yeah.
For a more reliable option it’s probably cheaper to have a gas powered air compressor in a tender that feeds a secondary tank on the engine as well as the compressor tank, so u have more air on demand.
Hi Tim. Hello from New Zealand and nice progress on the gear system. I have used refrigerator compressors to generate high pressure air before. Somewhere in the range of 700psi I think we reached. Not the highest flowrate but cheap/free and quiet!
Thanks - yes, I'm thinking 700psi would be much better than the 100 I'm getting at the moment..
Locking mech looks good. Chipper might benefit from something similar. I don't like how close you are to the giant wheel of finger removal though. In addition to guards as others have suggested, a bent lever as used for some car gear shifts might be the ticket.
Very nice! A simple wooden brake block down by your foot perhaps?
I love this! It looks so steampunk
The tanks of that type often have a concrete like substance inside them that keep the liquid from boiling off to quickly when the pressure is released.
It's safety device.
For the brakes, I think using a mechanical hand brake would fit the style of the loco very well and it isn't really that hard to make. Good luck on your project! Can't wait for next upload!
Please add a safety bar in front of the seat. I don't want to imagine what happens when you fall into that wheel.
Love the gear box. The whole loco looks like one from the 1700s. Can't wait to see it in action.
Caution when pressurising the tank to 200 Bar.
So happy I found your channel