A bad seed murders their ONLY friend and the family that was so very kind to him. Yikes, Alec is one of the scariest psychopaths that ever walked this planet. Poor Kevin - fighting for his life and seeing the face of his supposed best pal, poor sweet boy.
@@JohnnyDanger36963Agreed. He was 16 years old, old enough to know better. I have misophonia too, it's awful, but you don't see me doing anything like this.
Lmfao so dramatic, you have Serial killers taking random lives which is way more uncommon then someone you know, you're more likely to be killed by a friend, family member or lover/ex lover then a random stranger. He's not even close to the scariest Psychopath 😂.
What is with parents giving their troubled children weapons? I don’t understand how a weapon would make you bond with or give your kid a healthy and normal hobby.
My heart breaks for Lisa Haines. There's no question in my mind that her daughter was next, and Lisa told her to flee likely knowing she herself was not going to make it.
Misophonia is a disorder in which certain sounds trigger emotional or physiological responses that some might perceive as unreasonable given the circumstance. I have misophonia, which is probably related to my autism, but just because sounds like chewing and snoring make me unbelievably anxious, stressed and even angry, I direct all that inwards because I know it’s my problem. You certainly don’t go and wipe out nearly an entire family because of it! Alec deliberately chose to commit premeditated mass murder because he wanted to experience killing someone, no other reason.
Brigitte L Jones. I had Misophonia as well as some other synesthesia (blurring of senses) combined with my initially undiagnosed ADHD. Misophonia was unpleasant, but realising it was MY problem, I realised I just had to put up with it, as any reactions would upset others and that cost was not worth it. Later after a few years of taking ADHD meds I found there was a massive reduction in my neural synesthesias.
@@MrKaypet Wait, really? I've been trying to get on ADHD meds since I was diagnosed at age 40, but my doctor won't prescribe any. Misophonia is one of my worst symptoms. Specifically, people who chew with their mouths open. Which is awful, because apparently, nobody teaches their kids table manners anymore. Literally all of my partner's friends and family all chew loudly with their jaws hanging wide open, it's my own personal heII.
@@WobblesandBeanYou should go to another doctor. They should give you ADHD medication if that's what you want because they sure don't care to slap It on kids at age 5
There’s an episode of “Evil Lives Here” where the dad is interviewed and I was absolutely infuriated when he said he gave his son a knife after talking about his anger issues and how he never responded to punishment. Absolute insanity.
To the parents who have kids like this...STOP ignoring the damn red flags🚩🚩 He had been showing signs of mental issues as a small child. Get them help before they act out on their murderous thoughts! Jiles needs to do a show called Raising a Psychopath
A lot of kids are pretty much ignored by their parents. They don’t see any need to be involved. But this kid was acting out in a dangerous and obviously disturbed manner. The parents were negligent , and we saw the result.
"I have a theory :..... Cocain!" made me laugh hard. Without your great humour I would be lost in such horrible crimes. For me Alec was insane from his childhood onwards but I am no psychiatrist who must refere to the time of the murders..... To kill your best friend and his parents with or without a motive is just crazy. :( As always, Jiles, you did a great job on this one, too! Greetings from Germany (to all of the monsters family)^^
He had misophonia. It’s when normal sounds like breathing, chewing, swallowing, scraping, etc. cause your nervous system to go into fight or flight mode. Hence his anger at the sounds. I have it too. It’s miserable. I bring headphones everywhere I go to help manage it. Exposure therapy does not work because it’s not a phobia. It’s a neurological issue with how your brain processes sound. Hope this gets seen by someone who might not know that they aren’t crazy. What you’re experiencing is a real thing and has a name. Other people share your experience.
My kiddo has this. It's more difficult for him to deal with now as he enters middle school. At least he eats at school now. Even 2 years ago he would not eat due to the noise in the cafeteria.
I have it. I have major sensory issues because I’m autistic and I can’t tolerate babies crying, chewing, tapping, breathing, the works. I am so grateful to whoever invented headphones because I wear them everywhere.
@@donnablack6280this kid sounds like he had way more issues than just autism, but it’s not out of the question that he has it. No excuses can be made for his actions, though. There’s many ways to mitigate misophonia and accommodate for yourself, even if the condition is hard to live with, and people aren’t willing to understand your struggle on top of it all. (For example, I’ve already seen many people in the comments whining about how people with misophonia are just being snowflakes and “everyone is annoyed by certain sounds”. No. You don’t know what it’s like. Don’t be arrogant.) I have to leave the room and calm down, and then I’m okay. Not once have I actually considered murdering someone, but that’s to be expected. The bar is on the floor. Dude just wanted to kill people to begin with and found his excuse.
It pisses me off that Jeff never did turn Alec in! Some anonymous individual "did the right thing" because FOUR DAYS was far too long to sit on such vital information. I have a real problem with Jeff giving a violent, frightening teen a freaking HUNTING KNIFE - the ultimate murder weapon! It seems that the family swept Alec's severe issues under the rug, because even the sister never told her boyfriend that Alec was violent, even after he GAVE HIM A GUN! I bet the poor brother that Alec TERRORIZED didn't want it swept under the rug! I had a dangerous sister with schizophrenia and she targeted me, making my every waking hour HELLISH. I don't know exactly how the divorced and remarried parents handled the SEVERE Alec problem (or if they even did) but whatever it was, it was the wrong thing. And, yes, I AM in a position to judge, because I LIVED IT, and I have the permanent scars on my body to prove it. Parents, stop allowing one kid to rule the family, because you are embarrassed to have a "damaged" kid, you fear messing up their chance at getting in a good college, you are afraid of that kid, or you think the other children that behave will be just fine. Let me tell you, the good kids are NOT alright and it is so unfair to trust them to simply raise themselves. Fortunately, Reagan had not shut down all of the long term mental institutions, so there was a place to FINALLY place my sister, but it took two stabbings and one hammer attack before the parents would get her out of our home. It's hard to do your ninth grade homework with your furniture shoved against your bedroom door and someone picking at the lock with an ICE PICK.
Oh chica, I'm so sorry that you had to go thru that so young. 😢 I hope your sister was able to get on the right medication and that she's happy where she is and I hope that you've had the chance to heal from those terrible years, I'm sure you've had some CPTSD from it all. I know I stopped having dreams that I could remember cuz my night terrors were so bad and I guess my mind is trying to rectify it the best it can, but I've had years of troubles from my own trauma and I just pray that you were able to overcome your own trauma quickly so you didn't suffer even after you were safe. 🫂 ❤ 🙏
"People with misophonia are affected emotionally by common sounds - usually those made by others, and usually ones that other people don't pay attention to. The examples (breathing, yawning, or chewing) create a fight-or-flight response that triggers anger and a desire to escape." (Harvard)
I think to an extent we all have this, but I’ve always had this just didn’t know there was a word for it I think any noise from people lately are just getting under my last nerve
@@amp4105 yes!!! I actually researched and found out about the condition personally, bc I couldn't understand why people chewing made me so angry and irritated .🤬
Good morning everyone! I hope you're feeling better Jiles! I remember seeing this case on Evil Lives Here from Alec's father Tim's perspective. Such a sad story. So glad you're covering this story!
@@emshizzelbabyThis case stuck out to me because Tim turned Alec in. Yes, Evil Lives Here is such a good show! There's a current season on that I've been watching
I have this misophonia problem and it's undeniably unreasonable and yet also beyond my control to not be bothered by certain mouth noises, in particular loud chewing. I leave the room or, in a worst case scenario, plug my ears like a child. I'm 45 years old and not at all proud of that but it truly is that bothersome and overwhelmingly uncomfortable. It's a real brain problem and I often joke that it makes me feel murderously angry as a way to try to impress upon people how strong my distaste is for these noises. I never thought in all my days I would actually hear that it was part of a 'reason' to kiľľ. VERY tragic case. 😥 Thank you for another great episode.
Hi. I'm getting over agoraphobia. I use noise cancelling headphones, earbuds for music and family/friends are aware that sometimes I need to leave. Misophonia sounds terrifying bc it's untreatable. I hope you are okay, as much as possible 🩵
This is my favorite true crime channel by far ❤ I was just watching another crime case about that little 14 year old psycho who killed her mom, but once Jiles drops, ya gotta click! 😉
Look at the Carly gregg case that just happened. 14, shot her mother to death, tried to kill hee stepdad, they tried her as an adult only 6 months after the crime using the insanity plea, it failed and now she’s doing 2 life sentences in an adult prison with no parole.
The thing that strikes me is that Tim was only worried when it seemed like he was going to be in trouble, not Alec. It was His relationship and His standing in ths community and Him possibly being at fault for giving Alec the knife. Very much seems as if Tim was always Tim's biggest priority
I just started the episode and haven't made it to the gun part yet, but I agree giving your child with explosive anger issues a hunting knife is an incredibly bad idea.
They're probably in hiding right now; avoiding vigilante justice from anybody in that Township. Especially since he killed himself in jail 10 years into his sentence; these people would most likely be the cops in that one Law & Order: SVU episode and say, "The son of a bitch didn't even suffer!".
If he wasn't given that knife , he would use any knife from the kitchen drawer or would buy his own knife . Or he could possibly use an ax from the garage, etc. There are endless possibilities Thankfully no one would put parents in prison for him using the heirloom knife he was given 😜 P.S. Are you Democrats by any chance ?
There are always going to be the toxic parents who choose to ignore every single red flag and live in denial because THEIR kid would NEVER turn out to be a serial killer.
Why was it up to *Tim* to turn Alec in? His mother Angela was sitting right there and heard everything as well. Why couldn't _she_ do the right thing? No wonder Alec ended up committing murder. Not to mention his father giving Alec a knife after he'd tried to strangle his own brother. Thanks Dad.
So weird, I just drove up to Manheim, PA three days ago from Philly. I really never go there …I live for synchronicities! Thanks in advance, Jiles! Hope you’re doing well over in your new digs, man; it is getting weirder and weirder here. We really would love to move to Amsterdam (area) also!?!
Hello. And thanks for posting this video. It’s been 18 seasons of gripping and harrowing tales of the people who loved them. Thank you, Jiles, for all of the hard work and effort you put into our enjoyment. 💜
Hey Jiles 🙋🏽♀️and Monster fam! Good to see you! I’m up at 4:44 AM with chronic insomnia so, as always, your video is right on time. Tysm..you’re appreciated! Be well friend 🙏🏽🥰
I used to get upset at my father and brother for chewing loudly. My brother would do it on purpose just to get under my skin. I don’t have those issues anymore though.
From Dmx and sharpie art, way too late in morning, im going to bed 🙏 voice tone & intelligent research, u calm us with fucked up peace & understanding 🙏
So as a child he was a textbook case of ODD (Oppositional Defiance Disorder), the way he didn't care how he was punished yup textbook. Kids with ODD who don't get help young have a very high chance of developing ASD (Antisocial Personality Disorder) they need therapy/occupational therapy starting as young as possible. I'm not excusing murder of course i just like to spread awareness about ODD so parents can help their own kids.
So elated to see you back, Thank you Jiles, for keeping me sane on a manic Monday! Back @ it, dumm da-dadumm back to work! So ear buds in and, This is Monsters on! Hope everyone has a great week, Stay safe and, MAKE IT COUNT! 💖
I hope things worked out for the best and you’re feeling much better now. Please don’t feel obligated to post if you’re not well. We will wait for you Jiles! I was astonished to hear that a counselor can’t report past crimes that their patients tell them about. I get that there’s patient confidentiality but a murder?! Yikes! I’m imagining that many counselors will skirt that issue by claiming they are still thinking about committing a future crime. If you can help solve a murder and get justice for the family it seems like the right course of action.
I love your presentation of true crime stories! I have been following you for awhile, and you are without a doubt my favorite channel when it comes to true crime documentaries! ❤
I’m from Lancaster, manhiem is minutes away… this was nuts in the community in real time in 2007 when it went down still gives city chills till this day
@@ErickFreemanTheSkateboardGuy One of my best friends worked at Philhaven when he was brought in. She wasn’t allowed to talk about it only to say that she was there.
Who knows what happened re. parenting in Alec's house, but giving a knife to a child with anger issues suggests it wasn't great. It seems possible that his parents had issues, too. Please, everyone. At least TRY to get your kids help, before it's too late.
I want you to know that your channel is my all time favorite. You don’t charge anyone and I can enjoy your channel with my UA-cam premium ad free. Keep up the good work brother!
6:00 So a man gave his son that, knowing full well about his..."condition" (youtube won't let me say it). That dude needs to be charged as an accessory.
Thanks for explaining the attack in the climax. Also what an atrocious person Alec's dad was. He is the sort of parent that encourages violent behavior, and women abuse, though that wasnt evident in this case, but I am sure he falls in that category. He gave a 12 year old boy a knife, a boy who had a history of violent outbursts and odd behavior. And the time he took to turn his son in, infact did he even turn his son in at all?
wtf lol, his dad is anything but atrocious. how did he encourage violent behavior? him giving his son the knife was a mistake, but one that probably is made every single day by millions of people with "odd" children. also women abuse? what? are you just stupid? give me a break dude,
I’ll never not laugh over the intruder calling 911 from one room while the poor terrified homeowners are calling 911 from the other. I know the whole station went home that night with, “…you’re not gonna believe this shit…” stories. 😂
You can tell whether or not someone is from Pennsylvania by how they pronounce Lancaster (local pronunciation sounds like “Lank-a-stir”) Apparently, you’re not from Pennsylvania lol. Recently found your channel, keep up the good work!
And it’s pretty much only central PA that pronounces it that way. I moved here from western PA and pronounced Lancaster like Burt Lancaster for the first couple weeks until the news taught me the error of my ways lol.
I watched a show and the father was the one telling the story I felt his Pain in finding out his son had done this…he didn’t sugar coat his decision to turn his son in This family and Kevin’s family have ever ounce of my sympathies
Not a psychiatrist. If they have committed a past murder they cannot report. Only if he has threatened another person which it sounds like he didn't. I think they need to change these laws.
I remember when this story was told by MrBallen. At first they assumed it was Maggie due to her seemingly showing no emotion when she talked to police. As yhe story unfolded, this was a conclusion i didn't see coming. It's so sad when you can't even trust your own friend.
Therapists are required to report crimes that their patients confessed to if the crime was murder, child abuse, domestic violence, or any crime that includes the danger of others.
A bad seed murders their ONLY friend and the family that was so very kind to him. Yikes, Alec is one of the scariest psychopaths that ever walked this planet. Poor Kevin - fighting for his life and seeing the face of his supposed best pal, poor sweet boy.
Alex needs lead therapy.
@@JohnnyDanger36963Agreed. He was 16 years old, old enough to know better. I have misophonia too, it's awful, but you don't see me doing anything like this.
@@JohnnyDanger36963 Agreed.
No, he needs jail time@@JohnnyDanger36963
Lmfao so dramatic, you have Serial killers taking random lives which is way more uncommon then someone you know, you're more likely to be killed by a friend, family member or lover/ex lover then a random stranger. He's not even close to the scariest Psychopath 😂.
Giving a kid with anger issues a knife is ridiculous!🙄
What is with parents giving their troubled children weapons?
I don’t understand how a weapon would make you bond with or give your kid a healthy and normal hobby.
handlers.
What is it parents giving, not troubled kids, weapons?
Weapons kill. We haven't weapons in our house.
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Guns fanatics don't think sanely. They view murder tools as toys.
Actually, most kids that has guns live in the " country," and are learning how to hunt or are actively hunting.
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My heart breaks for Lisa Haines. There's no question in my mind that her daughter was next, and Lisa told her to flee likely knowing she herself was not going to make it.
Give a child with anger issues a knife???😮
Yes, they could have given him a gun so he could become a skule shuter
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Yeah, that really made my jaw drop. The dad needs to be held responsible for what happened just as much as Alec.
Dude! I thought the same thing! What the @#$% !
@@suerichards47 dumb parents 🤦♂️
Misophonia is a disorder in which certain sounds trigger emotional or physiological responses that some might perceive as unreasonable given the circumstance. I have misophonia, which is probably related to my autism, but just because sounds like chewing and snoring make me unbelievably anxious, stressed and even angry, I direct all that inwards because I know it’s my problem. You certainly don’t go and wipe out nearly an entire family because of it! Alec deliberately chose to commit premeditated mass murder because he wanted to experience killing someone, no other reason.
Brigitte L Jones. I had Misophonia as well as some other synesthesia (blurring of senses) combined with my initially undiagnosed ADHD. Misophonia was unpleasant, but realising it was MY problem, I realised I just had to put up with it, as any reactions would upset others and that cost was not worth it. Later after a few years of taking ADHD meds I found there was a massive reduction in my neural synesthesias.
Wow, I've never heard of this condition before; thank you for sharing that
@@MrKaypet Wait, really? I've been trying to get on ADHD meds since I was diagnosed at age 40, but my doctor won't prescribe any. Misophonia is one of my worst symptoms. Specifically, people who chew with their mouths open. Which is awful, because apparently, nobody teaches their kids table manners anymore. Literally all of my partner's friends and family all chew loudly with their jaws hanging wide open, it's my own personal heII.
@@WobblesandBeanYou should go to another doctor. They should give you ADHD medication if that's what you want because they sure don't care to slap It on kids at age 5
@@WobblesandBeanKeep at it, remember, the squeaky wheel gets the oil.
( wow. I sound like sum 90 year old)
Nice to have you back Jiles! Glad you are feeling better. What a horrifying story.
There’s an episode of “Evil Lives Here” where the dad is interviewed and I was absolutely infuriated when he said he gave his son a knife after talking about his anger issues and how he never responded to punishment. Absolute insanity.
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Your voice sounds really smooth. It's very unique. It's funny how I start noticing things like that now that we're being invaded by AI.👍
I always loved his delivery.
To the parents who have kids like this...STOP ignoring the damn red flags🚩🚩 He had been showing signs of mental issues as a small child. Get them help before they act out on their murderous thoughts! Jiles needs to do a show called Raising a Psychopath
These are the parents who don't care at all about their kids. Can't see red flags when you don't see or talk your kids
A lot of kids are pretty much ignored by their parents. They don’t see any need to be involved. But this kid was acting out in a dangerous and obviously disturbed manner. The parents were negligent , and we saw the result.
No one will ever know how grateful I am that neither of my kids were like this. I honestly could not have coped.
Sorry but I love my kids and don’t care about yours at all.
@@barbarossa1780 I hope your kids are nicer than you are, Mrs.Grinch.
"I have a theory :..... Cocain!" made me laugh hard.
Without your great humour I would be lost in such horrible crimes.
For me Alec was insane from his childhood onwards but I am no psychiatrist who must refere to the time of the murders.....
To kill your best friend and his parents with or without a motive is just crazy. :(
As always, Jiles, you did a great job on this one, too!
Greetings from Germany (to all of the monsters family)^^
God bless that anonymous caller. 🙏
Right. Because you sure couldn't count on that douchebag dad or his silent mealy mouth wife.
Jiles I bet you're to 1M by the New Year. Much deserved and glad you feel better. You are every insomniacs dream 😊.
He had misophonia. It’s when normal sounds like breathing, chewing, swallowing, scraping, etc. cause your nervous system to go into fight or flight mode. Hence his anger at the sounds. I have it too. It’s miserable. I bring headphones everywhere I go to help manage it. Exposure therapy does not work because it’s not a phobia. It’s a neurological issue with how your brain processes sound. Hope this gets seen by someone who might not know that they aren’t crazy. What you’re experiencing is a real thing and has a name. Other people share your experience.
I have it too
My kiddo has this. It's more difficult for him to deal with now as he enters middle school. At least he eats at school now. Even 2 years ago he would not eat due to the noise in the cafeteria.
I have it. I have major sensory issues because I’m autistic and I can’t tolerate babies crying, chewing, tapping, breathing, the works. I am so grateful to whoever invented headphones because I wear them everywhere.
@krazypickles Hi, I have misophonia and autism too. I think this kid may have been undiagnosed autistic unfortunately.
@@donnablack6280this kid sounds like he had way more issues than just autism, but it’s not out of the question that he has it. No excuses can be made for his actions, though. There’s many ways to mitigate misophonia and accommodate for yourself, even if the condition is hard to live with, and people aren’t willing to understand your struggle on top of it all. (For example, I’ve already seen many people in the comments whining about how people with misophonia are just being snowflakes and “everyone is annoyed by certain sounds”. No. You don’t know what it’s like. Don’t be arrogant.) I have to leave the room and calm down, and then I’m okay. Not once have I actually considered murdering someone, but that’s to be expected. The bar is on the floor. Dude just wanted to kill people to begin with and found his excuse.
This story is so disturbing
It pisses me off that Jeff never did turn Alec in! Some anonymous individual "did the right thing" because FOUR DAYS was far too long to sit on such vital information. I have a real problem with Jeff giving a violent, frightening teen a freaking HUNTING KNIFE - the ultimate murder weapon! It seems that the family swept Alec's severe issues under the rug, because even the sister never told her boyfriend that Alec was violent, even after he GAVE HIM A GUN! I bet the poor brother that Alec TERRORIZED didn't want it swept under the rug! I had a dangerous sister with schizophrenia and she targeted me, making my every waking hour HELLISH. I don't know exactly how the divorced and remarried parents handled the SEVERE Alec problem (or if they even did) but whatever it was, it was the wrong thing. And, yes, I AM in a position to judge, because I LIVED IT, and I have the permanent scars on my body to prove it.
Parents, stop allowing one kid to rule the family, because you are embarrassed to have a "damaged" kid, you fear messing up their chance at getting in a good college, you are afraid of that kid, or you think the other children that behave will be just fine. Let me tell you, the good kids are NOT alright and it is so unfair to trust them to simply raise themselves. Fortunately, Reagan had not shut down all of the long term mental institutions, so there was a place to FINALLY place my sister, but it took two stabbings and one hammer attack before the parents would get her out of our home. It's hard to do your ninth grade homework with your furniture shoved against your bedroom door and someone picking at the lock with an ICE PICK.
Who is Jeff? I could be missing something but Alec’s dad is named Tim.
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Oh chica, I'm so sorry that you had to go thru that so young. 😢 I hope your sister was able to get on the right medication and that she's happy where she is and I hope that you've had the chance to heal from those terrible years, I'm sure you've had some CPTSD from it all. I know I stopped having dreams that I could remember cuz my night terrors were so bad and I guess my mind is trying to rectify it the best it can, but I've had years of troubles from my own trauma and I just pray that you were able to overcome your own trauma quickly so you didn't suffer even after you were safe. 🫂 ❤ 🙏
Who TF is Jeff?
Cleaning tanks and preparing meals for my animals. Thanks for posting this and keeping me company.🐍⭐️
Eeeeeeee snek! 💜 I love them! What kinds do you have?
"People with misophonia are affected emotionally by common sounds - usually those made by others, and usually ones that other people don't pay attention to. The examples (breathing, yawning, or chewing) create a fight-or-flight response that triggers anger and a desire to escape."
(Harvard)
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I think to an extent we all have this, but I’ve always had this just didn’t know there was a word for it I think any noise from people lately are just getting under my last nerve
Yeah, I don't think that's what this is.
I have this, HATE when people chew loud.
@@amp4105 yes!!! I actually researched and found out about the condition personally, bc I couldn't understand why people chewing made me so angry and irritated .🤬
Good morning everyone! I hope you're feeling better Jiles! I remember seeing this case on Evil Lives Here from Alec's father Tim's perspective. Such a sad story. So glad you're covering this story!
Omg thank you. I could not remember where I saw this kids face at.!! Evil lives here is a damn damn damn good show!!!
@@emshizzelbabyThis case stuck out to me because Tim turned Alec in. Yes, Evil Lives Here is such a good show! There's a current season on that I've been watching
@@deej1015Murder in the Heartland, American Monster, & Murder Tapes are really good also😎
I have this misophonia problem and it's undeniably unreasonable and yet also beyond my control to not be bothered by certain mouth noises, in particular loud chewing. I leave the room or, in a worst case scenario, plug my ears like a child. I'm 45 years old and not at all proud of that but it truly is that bothersome and overwhelmingly uncomfortable. It's a real brain problem and I often joke that it makes me feel murderously angry as a way to try to impress upon people how strong my distaste is for these noises. I never thought in all my days I would actually hear that it was part of a 'reason' to kiľľ. VERY tragic case. 😥 Thank you for another great episode.
Hi. I'm getting over agoraphobia.
I use noise cancelling headphones, earbuds for music and family/friends are aware that sometimes I need to leave.
Misophonia sounds terrifying bc it's untreatable.
I hope you are okay, as much as possible 🩵
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This is my favorite true crime channel by far ❤ I was just watching another crime case about that little 14 year old psycho who killed her mom, but once Jiles drops, ya gotta click! 😉
Look at the Carly gregg case that just happened. 14, shot her mother to death, tried to kill hee stepdad, they tried her as an adult only 6 months after the crime using the insanity plea, it failed and now she’s doing 2 life sentences in an adult prison with no parole.
Wow!! How old is the girl? It's a shame that she is sentenced to life at that young age.
They will keep her in a juvenile facility until 18. She is a very young looking 15 yr old now.
The thing that strikes me is that Tim was only worried when it seemed like he was going to be in trouble, not Alec. It was His relationship and His standing in ths community and Him possibly being at fault for giving Alec the knife.
Very much seems as if Tim was always Tim's biggest priority
The adults in this story giving a problem child a knife and a gun, should be thrown in jail too.
Yup.
I just started the episode and haven't made it to the gun part yet, but I agree giving your child with explosive anger issues a hunting knife is an incredibly bad idea.
They're probably in hiding right now; avoiding vigilante justice from anybody in that Township. Especially since he killed himself in jail 10 years into his sentence; these people would most likely be the cops in that one Law & Order: SVU episode and say, "The son of a bitch didn't even suffer!".
If he wasn't given that knife , he would use any knife from the kitchen drawer or would buy his own knife . Or he could possibly use an ax from the garage, etc. There are endless possibilities
Thankfully no one would put parents in prison for him using the heirloom knife he was given 😜
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Are you Democrats by any chance ?
There are always going to be the toxic parents who choose to ignore every single red flag and live in denial because THEIR kid would NEVER turn out to be a serial killer.
Yay!! Thanks, Jiles! Hope you're feeling better!
Yay you’re back! Guess you’re feeling better? I hope so!! So glad for the new episode 😊😊😊
Great to see you back Giles....
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Why was it up to *Tim* to turn Alec in? His mother Angela was sitting right there and heard everything as well. Why couldn't _she_ do the right thing?
No wonder Alec ended up committing murder. Not to mention his father giving Alec a knife after he'd tried to strangle his own brother. Thanks Dad.
I appreciate all the hard work and many hours of research you put into this channel
So weird, I just drove up to Manheim, PA three days ago from Philly. I really never go there …I live for synchronicities! Thanks in advance, Jiles! Hope you’re doing well over in your new digs, man; it is getting weirder and weirder here. We really would love to move to Amsterdam (area) also!?!
Great to see you back Jiles! Let's go Monsters!
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Hello. And thanks for posting this video. It’s been 18 seasons of gripping and harrowing tales of the people who loved them.
Thank you, Jiles, for all of the hard work and effort you put into our enjoyment. 💜
Hey Jiles 🙋🏽♀️and Monster fam! Good to see you! I’m up at 4:44 AM with chronic insomnia so, as always, your video is right on time. Tysm..you’re appreciated! Be well friend 🙏🏽🥰
Does chronic insomnia worse than regular insomnia? Praying you both get a good night's sleep soon.
@@Elyssa_Wyld okay, thanks for the clarification. 🤔
Been waiting for this! Great to see u❤
I dont know... certain people do be chewing pretty loudly 😂 😅
I used to get upset at my father and brother for chewing loudly. My brother would do it on purpose just to get under my skin. I don’t have those issues anymore though.
"I have a theory: COCAINE!" 🤣🤣🤣
8am Monsters check-in! Morning all from the UK 🙌
3 am eastern canada 🎉
3 am Eastern United States
@@the_all_blue_does_exist716 Get to bed 😅
2am in texas, cheers
@@the_all_blue_does_exist716 same... 3am east coast USA
This kid you could tell was the making of a psychopath.
Yup!!!
Monsterers awake
We were never sleeping 😒 BUT THANKS FOR SLEEP AND DOWNTIME, Giles
From Dmx and sharpie art, way too late in morning, im going to bed 🙏 voice tone & intelligent research, u calm us with fucked up peace & understanding 🙏
We have arisen!
I'm up. I'm bright eyed, and bushy tailed. Good morning Fellow Monsters! Jiles, I hope you're feeling better my guy. I was worried.
Hello fellow insomniacs’
Hey! Hope you're feeling better Jiles!
another beautiful little episode bro, keep up the amazing work bro
Yay!! Glad you're back! 🎉 Hope you are feeling better! ❣️
Glad to see your back and hope ya are feeling better Jiles. Thanks for a new episode! Now I'll be awake for a bit longer! Take care!
So as a child he was a textbook case of ODD (Oppositional Defiance Disorder), the way he didn't care how he was punished yup textbook. Kids with ODD who don't get help young have a very high chance of developing ASD (Antisocial Personality Disorder) they need therapy/occupational therapy starting as young as possible.
I'm not excusing murder of course i just like to spread awareness about ODD so parents can help their own kids.
So elated to see you back, Thank you Jiles, for keeping me sane on a manic Monday!
Back @ it, dumm da-dadumm back to work!
So ear buds in and, This is Monsters on!
Hope everyone has a great week, Stay safe and, MAKE IT COUNT! 💖
my kid has also never reacted to consequences. It's hard to parent such a child
This is the best UA-cam channel
Shout out to the girl for keeping him on the phone and talking him down.
🎉welcome back
Yesss,I missed you Mr Monster
Thanks for posting 🎉 we missed you!
I hope things worked out for the best and you’re feeling much better now. Please don’t feel obligated to post if you’re not well. We will wait for you Jiles! I was astonished to hear that a counselor can’t report past crimes that their patients tell them about. I get that there’s patient confidentiality but a murder?! Yikes! I’m imagining that many counselors will skirt that issue by claiming they are still thinking about committing a future crime. If you can help solve a murder and get justice for the family it seems like the right course of action.
Wait, wait, wait! I'm here! As a penguin, I have little legs and can't run fast... 5 hours late, but I'm here!
❤❤Thanks Jiles❤❤
I love your presentation of true crime stories! I have been following you for awhile, and you are without a doubt my favorite channel when it comes to true crime documentaries! ❤
With friends like Alec, who needs enemies?
Glad you’re back and hopefully feeling much better.
You have a great way of giving us these stories. So many stories I've never heard of before. Keep up the great work sir
I’m from Lancaster, manhiem is minutes away… this was nuts in the community in real time in 2007 when it went down still gives city chills till this day
@@ErickFreemanTheSkateboardGuy One of my best friends worked at Philhaven when he was brought in. She wasn’t allowed to talk about it only to say that she was there.
@@lauriehollinger4540 when they said dude worked at Dutch wonderland it hit home that’s a lot of ppls first gig out this way for teenagers
Thank you for covering this. I was living in Lancaster County, very near Mannheim Township, when this happened and it was just so sad.
Who knows what happened re. parenting in Alec's house, but giving a knife to a child with anger issues suggests it wasn't great. It seems possible that his parents had issues, too. Please, everyone. At least TRY to get your kids help, before it's too late.
JILES HAS RETURNEDDDDDDD
I want you to know that your channel is my all time favorite. You don’t charge anyone and I can enjoy your channel with my UA-cam premium ad free. Keep up the good work brother!
Welcome back Jiles! Hope. You are well rested and feeling better!!! ❤
Welcome back! Happy Monday! Thanks for the upload 💜💜💜
6:00 So a man gave his son that, knowing full well about his..."condition" (youtube won't let me say it). That dude needs to be charged as an accessory.
Hey Mr Giles, thank you for the hard work!
I'm always psyched when a new "Monster's" episode hits my feed. They never, ever disappoint.
Good Morning Monsters!
or goodnight to us on other side of the world 😂 and what a good night it is to see Jiles is back !!!
Thank You Jiles! Always enjoy your case coverage! 🧡❤️💛
Thanks for explaining the attack in the climax. Also what an atrocious person Alec's dad was. He is the sort of parent that encourages violent behavior, and women abuse, though that wasnt evident in this case, but I am sure he falls in that category. He gave a 12 year old boy a knife, a boy who had a history of violent outbursts and odd behavior. And the time he took to turn his son in, infact did he even turn his son in at all?
wtf lol, his dad is anything but atrocious. how did he encourage violent behavior? him giving his son the knife was a mistake, but one that probably is made every single day by millions of people with "odd" children. also women abuse? what? are you just stupid? give me a break dude,
He did turn his son in. What does that psychological profile for the father come from?
Okay what the fuck are you on about?! Where are you getting any of this?
yea wtf do you mean women beater? gtfo dude jesus christ.
@@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 from your mothers bosom
I’ll never not laugh over the intruder calling 911 from one room while the poor terrified homeowners are calling 911 from the other. I know the whole station went home that night with, “…you’re not gonna believe this shit…” stories. 😂
who gives someone else’s child a gun ???
Which parents accepted it?
I mean.. Alec had a point with the loud chewing …. 😂🤷🏻♂️
You can tell whether or not someone is from Pennsylvania by how they pronounce Lancaster (local pronunciation sounds like “Lank-a-stir”)
Apparently, you’re not from Pennsylvania lol.
Recently found your channel, keep up the good work!
And it’s pretty much only central PA that pronounces it that way. I moved here from western PA and pronounced Lancaster like Burt Lancaster for the first couple weeks until the news taught me the error of my ways lol.
@@MKUltra42 A yinzer in Lancaster! Lol.
@@anthonykelly1368 I’ve been here for 20 years and I’m still getting used to these flatlanders 😆
@@MKUltra42 🤣
Great, now there's a "misophonia defense"
Exactly 🙄. Everything's a disorder nowadays.
I feel like I’ve been waiting forever for a new episode. Cheers. 🤩
Morning here in England, thanks Jiles early horrors!
Thank you for this video. I hope that you're feeling better!
I watched a show and the father was the one telling the story
I felt his Pain in finding out his son had done this…he didn’t sugar coat his decision to turn his son in
This family and Kevin’s family have ever ounce of my sympathies
morning hope your feeling better missed you love from Scotland ❤️
TinaMcBeidw63 I love Scotland!! I miss it so much!!!! I am obsessed, and wish I could live there!
8:45am here in Ireland 🇮🇪😊
Fun fact, doctor patient confidentiality goes out in window in the case of murder, abuse, etc because those are mandatory report things.
Not a psychiatrist. If they have committed a past murder they cannot report. Only if he has threatened another person which it sounds like he didn't. I think they need to change these laws.
Welcome back. Hope you are on the mend!
I really don't understand the perverse obsession with metallic shooty things, even if they have a legitimate -serial number- or not!
The goat is back
Jiles so good to hear from you posting, m'bro; hope you and yours are all well, now!
I like that you are always sounds like the voice of reason ❤
Glad to see you back jiles !
I bet you get a 2nd glance every time you exchange words with stranger face to face lol
I remember when this story was told by MrBallen. At first they assumed it was Maggie due to her seemingly showing no emotion when she talked to police. As yhe story unfolded, this was a conclusion i didn't see coming.
It's so sad when you can't even trust your own friend.
Nice hear and see u back JILES and hope you are doing well! Best of wishes for you and your family all the way from Kentucky ❤
So glad you're back and feeling better. Your favorite "Monsteress' missed you. Cheers! 😊
Monster crew, Good Morning 🙏
Lovely to see the face behind the voice. Thank you for another video.
In Australia confidentiality can be broken if it is believed the person is a danger to themselves or others
Welcome back Jay! Hope you’re doing well, much love my little family to yours! Be well, and peace, love and chicken grease
Therapists are required to report crimes that their patients confessed to if the crime was murder, child abuse, domestic violence, or any crime that includes the danger of others.
I don't think so.
I know child abuse has to be reported but I’m not sure about those other ones
Thanks for another one!
That girl had GOOD instincts.