Some fancy fry shops in Belgium and the Netherlands still use tallow as frying fat, and it makes all the difference. It makes fries taste so much better than non-descript 'frying oil' that most places use.
Fair point however I think it was changed in the us bc a lot of ppl can’t or don’t eat beef( such as myself) for either health, allergen, religion or personal choices.
@@JessJ_698It was changed due to ONE man who sued McDonalds who had a heart attack. The case is famous. McDonalds CAVED because of one person who was obese and decided he wanted a payday. It had ZERO to do with beef. And everything to do with animal fats being declared dangerous in general. Well, here we are in 2024 and it's starting to come out that seed oils are devastatingly BAD for health. Unfortunately we always have to cater to the 1% or less who think their way of life needs to be shoved down everybody else's throats. Sorry about your delicate constitution but maybe we just need to put all of the delicate flowers out on an island so everybody else can continue to live our lives. SMH
As someone who managed a McDonald's in the 80s, I can tell you that the blocks of tallow came in boxes three times that size. And, the fries tasted so much better. They get even better after the tallow had a few more batches of fries cooked in them. It's the carbon.
@prvg7851 the carbon from the cooked food adds flavor. Too much and the oil gets too dark and the flavor suffers. The tallow was filtered everyday. It was changed based on use. Sometimes everyday or every two days. First batch of fries out tasted more like oil/tallow. A few batches in was perfect. What affected the tallow was carbon, oxygen, salt, and water. All affected the flavor.
@@tony_25or6to4 ahhh, I understand, I think. Yeahh, that makes sense. Thanks mate. I’m just wondering though. Is it based to change out the tallow every 2 days, from what I understand..
@prvg7851 based on how clean the tallow or oil is. Just like browning on other foods, caramelization adds flavor. I think In-n-Out changes their oil too often and they don't double fry their French fries is why their fries hardly have any flavor and are probably the worst in fast food.
My dad grew up over his family's owned snackbar in the 50s and 60s. They served chicken and fries, icecream and snack foods, etc. They always cooked with lard. When dad makes fries at home, he always uses lard in the fryer. It makes a the difference flavour-wise! I should add, they didn't soak them in sugar water. But they did par fry them (he calls this step 'glazing' the fries), let them cool a bit, and then fully fried them. Toss in salt before serving and voila!
@Stephanie Charriere Decant when warm and store covered in the fridge. If you get it fresh it will be useable that way for around 3 months (the same as beef tallow).
I worked at McDonald's just before the switch. I ate the original fries and loved them. after the switch I didn't like the fries anymore.. I didn't realize until years later that they were different.
I love how Harry was able to do everything so easy and poor Joe was having to do everything the hard way, get Joe some better equipment! However, Joe does have a cool kitchen and the cutest cat so that makes up for it :D
@@TheJohnDenim I'm pretty sure he's in his home kitchen, making food for himself. If Joe wants his cat to be allowed to be on the counter with him while he cooks, he can and should do so.
@@Conklin03 Yeah but I bet he only does it for the video feels. Anyone who's serious about cooking wouldn't let a cat (which digs in a litter box with the same paws it walks on) walk over a food prep area.
@@Shaun.Stephens and anyone who's serious about their pet, and doesn't mind the possible uncleanliness, would. Also, while Joe may be serious about cooking (which I'm not even sure is the case) he wasn't making a "serious" meal here. He was making french fries. McDonald's french fries. I can guarantee you the stations at 9/10 McDonald's are much less clean than Joe's cat.
That little bottle of beef flavouring recommending its addition to all those sweet things has me in stitches 🤣 shakes? Baking?! How on earth does adding beef flavouring to any of those things make them better? 😂
I’m a geezer so, man, do I miss original McD’s fries! Joe, love your swank LA apartment and your helper was really cute! Harry, just when I thought you couldn’t be more adorable you get a haircut and put on a lab coat 😍. Cudos for actually trying the beef “flavoring”. Hopefully you took some of that tallow home with you and made some outrageously good Yorkshire puds!
I'd be curious to know how much they would have to cost if they still used beef tallow, because I think the main driver is the price of the tallow. There is a fish and chip shop near me that advertises that they fry in beef tallow and their product is a lot letter than their competition but it's also more expensive.
They got rid of beef tallow because of a one-man crusade against saturated fats by a rich guy (Phil Sokolof) who blamed animal fat frying for his heart attack. But they replaced the beef tallow with a formula that led to less saturated fats in the fries at the price of more trans fats in the fries. Alot of people believe that the new fries are counter-intuitively less healthy to consume than the original fries were.
@@Jim-Tuner I think they changed it again in the mid 2000's due to that changing awareness. Honestly would love to have the beef tallow again for a limited time just for the nostalgia...can keep the styrofoam burger containers though.
@@Jim-Tuner yep. Same people who fought to replace tallow with trans fat, fought to get rid of trans fat. I bet the same will e true of beef substitutes like beyond and impossible. Tallow is less processed and more natural. And evidence is growing that it is healthier than processed seed oils.
@@Gubers your advice comes from criminals. A high fat, low carb diet with intermittent fasting is the key. Those people with high cholesterol have been poisoned from every other fake foods they have been consuming. The only food you can trust is organic.
I remember we had to stop eating Mcdonald Fries when we found out they were not Halal, and then trying them years later when they were okay to eat again, and the difference was night and day. The old recipe was so much better.
In NZ at some of our local supermarkets, they sell a brand of frozen potato chips/fries that has been covered in beef tallow, zero added chemicals, just beef tallow, and OMG they are the best chips I've ever tried! I just bake them in the oven, and they come out golden, crispy on the outside and fluffy on the inside. Taste way better than our McDonald's fries! Never had beef tallow before until I tried those chips. My partner's grandmother used to bake potatoes in beef tallow, apparently that's meant to taste amazing as well. Please, McDonald's, bring back the BEEF TALLOW!!!
I really love this Fast Food Chemistry episode! So excited for the next videos! Both are amazing and funny as well 👏 Cheers to the Food Wars team, Joe and Harry for their wonderful job ♥
Yeah, it's fine to have a cat walking on a food prep area because cats don't use their paws to dig in litter boxes (or gardens they've 'used' before)...
I remember as a kid 40 years ago going up to local to get hot chips and they would have these large blocks of tallow to melt down. Don't remember it being bleached white like that, from memory it was an off white or a bit yellowish.....but the chips were so good. Even a piece of deep fried fish with a chiko roll were just nothing like today. I would never eat anything deep fried in hydrogenated seed oils. Those oils were first used to lubricate machinery before being tweaked for human consumption!!
@@vukkulvar9769 Not often because the food is a lot worse by the time it gets home, especially fries. If I go through the drive-thru I'm eating in the car so that's not a problem.
Years ago Grant Imahara (sp?) Wes hired by McDonald's to make videos to show how some of their food was made including fries. The total list of ingredients for the fries was 19 because of the double frying. I have done some searching but McDonald's has made the video private. If you look up the video "what are the '19' ingredients in McDonald's fries?" By Newsy Science they talk about it and have clips and stills from the video, including the list of ingredients. The video "McDonald's how it's made McDonald's fries" by funny and serious has the factory tour part of the video but not the ingredient list and discussion on how the ingredients are used.
tbf as a person who doesn't eat beef (in any form), having fries without it is nice. but might as well have the option for the passionate fans of the old style.
Not really the fans, but removing the appeal for the majority. It’s the difference between a vegetable patty(the ones that don’t replicate beef flavor) and a beef patty. The difference in flavor is huge.
I feel for Joe trying to get the fries cut. But didn't know there's was a difference in chips over the years thought they just swapped beef fat for oil and stopped there. Also that's a cute cat Joe has.
Your fat molecule structures at 9:46 are wrong. You have in both structures a C with five bonds... (four is maximum). Also you have Cs with only three bonds... (not possible here) Greetings, a biochemist
Yes! The old McDonalds fries are food of the gods. A couple of years ago I ate McDonald’s fries in Prague and they tasted like the good old days, so I might just have to go back there. 😁
Just gonna throw out there... if you truly believed in Ramadan you wouldn't be making any sort of a stink about fasting for it. I had a number of Muslim friends and acquaintances back in college, and 99% of them hated fasting for Ramadan but still did it as a "religious obligation". Sounds more like you're just torturing yourself in an effort to "be pious".
@@nahor88 definitely not. it seems like i made it sound like a stink, but I enjoy fasting. It gets me closer to my religion and it’s really not that bad. I’m doing it voluntarily. I could just _not_ and drop it at any time, no one is forcing me, but I choose to do it because I can feel the benefits.
@@nahor88Nahor bro, they don't fast. They gorge themselves before the sun comes up and gorges them when the sun comes down then they act like they are fasting and tell everyone that they are fasting trying to make people think they are righteous. They are proud that they are "Fasting" and want to tell everyone about it. Notice if you talk to them they will try squeeze it in somehow in a conversation. Jesus condemned them when the Pharisees wanted the public to view them as righteous trying to make themselves look holy, wanting greetings in the marketplaces etc. That's why during Ramadan hospitals begin to increase patients struggling with digestion and other problems because they are wicked gluttons. Watch David Wood and apostate prophet. Islam is from shaitan
I remember at the Mcdonalds that I used work at in Florida we were still using beef tallow and that was in I think 90 to 92 I remember having to put a block of it in the fryers back in the day from time to time
32 years ago Macdonald's used to use potato pulp and the original juice went to the other factory to make Vodka . The pulp was then extruded in a cold room and packaged in minus 20C so the fries were frozen solid and dropped into Beef and Mutton fat fried . The Fries had a very short shelf life so a rack of 40 baskets had to be used in less than 20 mins otherwise the fries were thrown out defrosted chips in hot fat turns the chips into mush .
ah...those blocks of grease, I do no miss having to unload those things off delivery trucks when I worked fast food lol and I was so glad when we swapped to the cooking oil system
So it seems like the original 1955 recipe is not all that different from a lot of French fry recipes from restaurants. Brining and a double fry with a chilling period between fry sessions. And the crazy thing is that the original fries are likely better for you.
In the Netherlands and Belgium, this was used to fry chips (what Americans call fries). It is out of fashion but it was standard to use this fat. I think it still gives the best taste
i read a few years back that the potatoes were Kennebec (sp?) a specific type of russet that can grow super large (about a pound per spud).. maybe i am misremembering...
Is no one going to mention that it makes perfect sense that Joe is a cat guy? Like… he is just a cat in human form. As soon as I saw his cat it all made sense….
Great episode. I'm old enough to have grown to adulthood on original Mcdonalds fries, so I was an adult when the food police finally succeeded in forcing them to switch away from tallow. At first I hated the new fries, and I still miss the originals. But I guess I got used to the new ones over time. I think even the dumbed down new version is still the best fast food fry out there. But it's still a pale shadow of the greatness of the original recipe. The beef tallow was essential. Maybe the only thing that would have been better is if they'd fried them in rendered bacon fat.
I first had McDonald's in Hawaii in 1973 (visiting from Australia) when I was 4 years old, so I spent the first 17 years of my infrequent visits eating the original version. It was so long ago, though that i can't tell you what the difference is. I still only visit infrequently, so it doesn't really matter, I guess - but it was interesting that both said they could really notice the difference.
This was great information! But just loved the funniest ways from cutting the fries to taste testing the new fries which had probably synthetic beef seasoning!😂🤣
There’s a reason McD’s went all-in on advertising fries in the 1990s, including the use of NBA stars like Larry Bird, Michael Jordan and Grant Hill. They wanted everyone to like their now-inferior fries/chips without the use of beef flavoring.
It sounds like Richard and Maurice McDonald originally cooked their fries in 100% beef tallow, but Ray Kroc revised the cooking fat to a cost-saving mixture of beef tallow and vegetable oil called 'Formula 47' (after the cost of their 47¢ McDonalds meal). I don't doubt that your re-creation of the McDonald brothers cooking method tastes better, but *how* much better? Given the cost of beef tallow, it would have been nice to see you also include a taste test of the McMenu recipe (with mainly Crisco shortening and a little beef tallow), but thanks for going all out with something similar to the McDonald brother's original cooking method.
in dutch we call that tallow "ossenwit" (oxen white) and use it for deep frying, using a block and a half (1.5 kilos) to fill the entire deep frying pan not everyone uses it, but it's common enough the french call it blanc de boeuf (cow/beef white) too also, "transfat" is such a great username for a woke dating site lol
How can you forget the group that using beef tallow would be the most offensive to? HINDUS. If they ever brought it back, they'd have to sell it as a separate batch from the regular fries, and even then, the very strict religious people would give the low wage Micky D workers a stink if the regular fries are fried in the same fryer as the tallow fries. My family is Hindu though I consider myself Agnostic. My dad ate McDonald's fries for years after coming to the US in the 70s with no idea they use beef tallow. Were he more religious he'd be one of the people joining that lawsuit.
@@trovey02 Healthy would be to just cut up some raw potato and put them in the oven. A lot tastier than those fatty Mc Donalds corn syrup fries aswell. And a lot cheaper. But these days people can't even make a sandwich anymore so whatever. ^^
Apparently chippies in the UK used to be _so_ much better when they still used beef dripping for cooking their food. Some still do, but they're few and far between.
So what did we learn... don't buy a horizontal fry-cutter
He needed to have it with the potatoes coming out towards him. Pulling the lever towards your body creates more force.
He probably bought the one Made in China...
Dan Formosa likes this element.
No I’m just extremely strong
It works if you use it properly. Mount it on your counter and pull the lever towards you.
it looks like harry is gonna perform a chemistry experiment and joe is just chilling and making snacks for a sunday game lol
Some fancy fry shops in Belgium and the Netherlands still use tallow as frying fat, and it makes all the difference. It makes fries taste so much better than non-descript 'frying oil' that most places use.
Fair point however I think it was changed in the us bc a lot of ppl can’t or don’t eat beef( such as myself) for either health, allergen, religion or personal choices.
@@JessJ_698it was changed because of fraudulent research from 'them'
Not fancy fry shops, most fry shops
@@JessJ_698It was changed due to ONE man who sued McDonalds who had a heart attack. The case is famous. McDonalds CAVED because of one person who was obese and decided he wanted a payday.
It had ZERO to do with beef. And everything to do with animal fats being declared dangerous in general. Well, here we are in 2024 and it's starting to come out that seed oils are devastatingly BAD for health. Unfortunately we always have to cater to the 1% or less who think their way of life needs to be shoved down everybody else's throats. Sorry about your delicate constitution but maybe we just need to put all of the delicate flowers out on an island so everybody else can continue to live our lives. SMH
@@Ontheroxxwithsalt dude I gave one reason why are u so mad 🤣
As someone who managed a McDonald's in the 80s, I can tell you that the blocks of tallow came in boxes three times that size. And, the fries tasted so much better. They get even better after the tallow had a few more batches of fries cooked in them. It's the carbon.
What’s about the carbon? I don’t understand.
@prvg7851 the carbon from the cooked food adds flavor. Too much and the oil gets too dark and the flavor suffers. The tallow was filtered everyday. It was changed based on use. Sometimes everyday or every two days. First batch of fries out tasted more like oil/tallow. A few batches in was perfect.
What affected the tallow was carbon, oxygen, salt, and water. All affected the flavor.
@@tony_25or6to4 ahhh, I understand, I think. Yeahh, that makes sense. Thanks mate. I’m just wondering though. Is it based to change out the tallow every 2 days, from what I understand..
@prvg7851 based on how clean the tallow or oil is. Just like browning on other foods, caramelization adds flavor. I think In-n-Out changes their oil too often and they don't double fry their French fries is why their fries hardly have any flavor and are probably the worst in fast food.
Fast Food Chemistry, my favourite series from Food Wars is back !!
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Better than food wars?!
My dad grew up over his family's owned snackbar in the 50s and 60s. They served chicken and fries, icecream and snack foods, etc. They always cooked with lard. When dad makes fries at home, he always uses lard in the fryer. It makes a the difference flavour-wise!
I should add, they didn't soak them in sugar water. But they did par fry them (he calls this step 'glazing' the fries), let them cool a bit, and then fully fried them. Toss in salt before serving and voila!
@Stephanie Charriere Decant when warm and store covered in the fridge. If you get it fresh it will be useable that way for around 3 months (the same as beef tallow).
@@Shaun.Stephens yup, lard keeps well, especially if kept cold.
@Stephanie Charriere I do believe he put it in the fridge after straining it.
I worked at McDonald's just before the switch. I ate the original fries and loved them. after the switch I didn't like the fries anymore.. I didn't realize until years later that they were different.
I like the contrast between the lab set and what looks like Joe's real kitchen.
I love how Harry was able to do everything so easy and poor Joe was having to do everything the hard way, get Joe some better equipment! However, Joe does have a cool kitchen and the cutest cat so that makes up for it :D
Dirty cat in a food prep area. Disgusting.
I feel like joe admitted he brought this on himself because he chose all the supplies personally lmao
@@TheJohnDenim I'm pretty sure he's in his home kitchen, making food for himself. If Joe wants his cat to be allowed to be on the counter with him while he cooks, he can and should do so.
@@Conklin03 Yeah but I bet he only does it for the video feels. Anyone who's serious about cooking wouldn't let a cat (which digs in a litter box with the same paws it walks on) walk over a food prep area.
@@Shaun.Stephens and anyone who's serious about their pet, and doesn't mind the possible uncleanliness, would. Also, while Joe may be serious about cooking (which I'm not even sure is the case) he wasn't making a "serious" meal here. He was making french fries. McDonald's french fries. I can guarantee you the stations at 9/10 McDonald's are much less clean than Joe's cat.
Hahaha Joe’s eating fries 🍟 while Harry is throwing up! I ❤️ these guys they make food science FUN!
I'm impressed that Joe's cat didn't try to eat all of the fries. I can't keep my cats in the kitchen
I was so impressed with the cat judging Joe!
That little bottle of beef flavouring recommending its addition to all those sweet things has me in stitches 🤣 shakes? Baking?! How on earth does adding beef flavouring to any of those things make them better? 😂
I love how harry is dressed up like a futuristic scientist. 🥰 also Joe has an amazing kitchen setup 😏
Yes, complete with ppm of cat feces on the counter. Yum! 🙄
Futuristic? Thats just what a lab coat and a sweater looks like
@@stephenallen4635 Yes yes very futuristic. Didn't you know everyone in the future wears labcoats?
I’m a geezer so, man, do I miss original McD’s fries! Joe, love your swank LA apartment and your helper was really cute! Harry, just when I thought you couldn’t be more adorable you get a haircut and put on a lab coat 😍. Cudos for actually trying the beef “flavoring”. Hopefully you took some of that tallow home with you and made some outrageously good Yorkshire puds!
"Brand of potato" might be the most American thing I've ever heard
I'd be curious to know how much they would have to cost if they still used beef tallow, because I think the main driver is the price of the tallow. There is a fish and chip shop near me that advertises that they fry in beef tallow and their product is a lot letter than their competition but it's also more expensive.
They don't use beef tallow anymore because it's really bad for you if you eat it a lot.
They got rid of beef tallow because of a one-man crusade against saturated fats by a rich guy (Phil Sokolof) who blamed animal fat frying for his heart attack. But they replaced the beef tallow with a formula that led to less saturated fats in the fries at the price of more trans fats in the fries. Alot of people believe that the new fries are counter-intuitively less healthy to consume than the original fries were.
@@Jim-Tuner I think they changed it again in the mid 2000's due to that changing awareness. Honestly would love to have the beef tallow again for a limited time just for the nostalgia...can keep the styrofoam burger containers though.
@@Jim-Tuner yep. Same people who fought to replace tallow with trans fat, fought to get rid of trans fat. I bet the same will e true of beef substitutes like beyond and impossible. Tallow is less processed and more natural. And evidence is growing that it is healthier than processed seed oils.
@@Gubers your advice comes from criminals.
A high fat, low carb diet with intermittent fasting is the key.
Those people with high cholesterol have been poisoned from every other fake foods they have been consuming.
The only food you can trust is organic.
The older recipe is way better. Back in the 70's through 90's McDonalds fries were absolutely magic. The best fries anywhere. (I'm 57)
Like Harry said if you want to try them you can make them at home yourself
@@trublacking8572 But like what Harry also said.... it's time to bring them back.
@@trublacking8572 Or you can go to a local restaurant that still uses beef tallow (hard to find but worth it!)
And less laden with chemicals.
I love Mc.
The juxtaposition of Harry and Joe trying to use the fry cutters was hilarious, most I've laughed at food wars 😂
If you brush Baked potatos with dripping it's makes the BEST crispy skin EVER..
Glorious..
I remember we had to stop eating Mcdonald Fries when we found out they were not Halal, and then trying them years later when they were okay to eat again, and the difference was night and day. The old recipe was so much better.
Does it contain pork?
@@MhkhQ8 no but the beef fat wasn't halal
@@blastbottles why not halal
@@blastbottles beef fat is completely halal
Only Jewish think it's haram to eat the fat
@@MhkhQ8 the cow that the beef fat came from wasn't sacrificed in a halal way that's why
No joke there was a McDonald's ad before the video started
Storm Mickey Ds headquarters now..demand the beef! Demand the tallow! No compromises 😆
Perfect video for a Sunday afternoon 😇
Cheers from San Diego California
That's it. I'm buying beef tallow and frying my chips in them.
"unsweetened beef oil" is one of the most cursed phrases I've come across
In NZ at some of our local supermarkets, they sell a brand of frozen potato chips/fries that has been covered in beef tallow, zero added chemicals, just beef tallow, and OMG they are the best chips I've ever tried! I just bake them in the oven, and they come out golden, crispy on the outside and fluffy on the inside. Taste way better than our McDonald's fries! Never had beef tallow before until I tried those chips. My partner's grandmother used to bake potatoes in beef tallow, apparently that's meant to taste amazing as well. Please, McDonald's, bring back the BEEF TALLOW!!!
I really love this Fast Food Chemistry episode! So excited for the next videos! Both are amazing and funny as well 👏 Cheers to the Food Wars team, Joe and Harry for their wonderful job ♥
More videos like this! It was great seeing Joe participate in his home kitchen and I loved the shots with his cat. Adorable!
Yeah, it's fine to have a cat walking on a food prep area because cats don't use their paws to dig in litter boxes (or gardens they've 'used' before)...
I remember as a kid 40 years ago going up to local to get hot chips and they would have these large blocks of tallow to melt down. Don't remember it being bleached white like that, from memory it was an off white or a bit yellowish.....but the chips were so good. Even a piece of deep fried fish with a chiko roll were just nothing like today. I would never eat anything deep fried in hydrogenated seed oils. Those oils were first used to lubricate machinery before being tweaked for human consumption!!
Domino wants to try the original fries 🍟 🐈⬛🐈⬛🐈⬛
BEST series on this channel!
Have you considered doing a taste test after 30 minutes to see how it hold after cooling ?
Because you don't always get fries from a fresh batch.
That's weird fries go bad after 7 minutes (at Arby's at least)
I’m trying to understand why they’d do that? most fries are awful after 30 mins anyway
They're not supposed to hold fries for longer than 8 minutes. If they're holding them longer than that, your store sucks.
@@kaldogorath You never bring fast food home ? Never use a drive-through ? :p
@@vukkulvar9769 Not often because the food is a lot worse by the time it gets home, especially fries. If I go through the drive-thru I'm eating in the car so that's not a problem.
Years ago Grant Imahara (sp?) Wes hired by McDonald's to make videos to show how some of their food was made including fries. The total list of ingredients for the fries was 19 because of the double frying. I have done some searching but McDonald's has made the video private. If you look up the video "what are the '19' ingredients in McDonald's fries?" By Newsy Science they talk about it and have clips and stills from the video, including the list of ingredients.
The video "McDonald's how it's made McDonald's fries" by funny and serious has the factory tour part of the video but not the ingredient list and discussion on how the ingredients are used.
So now we need to bring back the original recipe ✍🏻
We have a local butcher shop that I go to for house made hamburgers and fries fried in beef tallow...they are so good.
tbf as a person who doesn't eat beef (in any form), having fries without it is nice. but might as well have the option for the passionate fans of the old style.
Not really the fans, but removing the appeal for the majority. It’s the difference between a vegetable patty(the ones that don’t replicate beef flavor) and a beef patty. The difference in flavor is huge.
I feel for Joe trying to get the fries cut. But didn't know there's was a difference in chips over the years thought they just swapped beef fat for oil and stopped there. Also that's a cute cat Joe has.
That's the magic of marketing. Making us believe the new product is better when it's actually worse.
@@noseboop4354 I don't remember the marketing saying they tasted better, just that they were healthier.
Lmfao joe your cat is like “shut up and feed me” while the cat was looking at you. 😂😂😂
Now I understand why chips never taste like granny’s and I want to buy beef dripping.
Same my mum and nana would always cook and fry in beef dripping or lard never oil lol
So many jokes about that fry cutter! But I won’t! 😳😂😂😂
Your fat molecule structures at 9:46 are wrong. You have in both structures a C with five bonds... (four is maximum). Also you have Cs with only three bonds... (not possible here)
Greetings, a biochemist
Studying at Phramaceutical faculty and watching these videos made me give up eating fast food
Yes! The old McDonalds fries are food of the gods. A couple of years ago I ate McDonald’s fries in Prague and they tasted like the good old days, so I might just have to go back there. 😁
Thanks algorithm, I’m now addicted to these videos
Pretty sure that the freezing is actually a vital step in the preparation of McD's fries.
Potatoes cooking in beef dripping is the classic chippy smell 😍 but most chippies use vegetable oil now too :(
Cats Domino. Tribute to a NOLA legend. Lol. Joe just got some points in my book.
Bless you guys, this is pure gold for ramadan. Somehow watching food makes time pass faster.
Just gonna throw out there... if you truly believed in Ramadan you wouldn't be making any sort of a stink about fasting for it. I had a number of Muslim friends and acquaintances back in college, and 99% of them hated fasting for Ramadan but still did it as a "religious obligation".
Sounds more like you're just torturing yourself in an effort to "be pious".
@@nahor88 definitely not. it seems like i made it sound like a stink, but I enjoy fasting. It gets me closer to my religion and it’s really not that bad. I’m doing it voluntarily. I could just _not_ and drop it at any time, no one is forcing me, but I choose to do it because I can feel the benefits.
@@nahor88Nahor bro, they don't fast. They gorge themselves before the sun comes up and gorges them when the sun comes down then they act like they are fasting and tell everyone that they are fasting trying to make people think they are righteous. They are proud that they are "Fasting" and want to tell everyone about it. Notice if you talk to them they will try squeeze it in somehow in a conversation. Jesus condemned them when the Pharisees wanted the public to view them as righteous trying to make themselves look holy, wanting greetings in the marketplaces etc. That's why during Ramadan hospitals begin to increase patients struggling with digestion and other problems because they are wicked gluttons. Watch David Wood and apostate prophet. Islam is from shaitan
@@user400Listen User400. Has allah ever answered your prayers?
Now we're talkin! you guys are going there! and im there with ya.
I remember at the Mcdonalds that I used work at in Florida we were still using beef tallow and that was in I think 90 to 92 I remember having to put a block of it in the fryers back in the day from time to time
Hands down the best podcast I’ve ever heard was about these fries. I dream about them ever since ;-).
Was it Revisionist History? I'm in my early 20s and I've only ever had the sad fries.
@@me-zb7qm Yes it was!!
Joe and Harry content, yes!
Does trans-fats have to do with isometry?
Don't think I'll ever recover from the image of both Harry and Joe peeling potatoes
I so miss the tallow fries, as well as the McDLT!
My ex-wife's niece worked at McDonald's back in the early 80s and said they used a mix of 10 parts salt to 1 part sugar in the salt shakers
Thank you!
4:30 yo wtf is it with the gap at the door behind? 😂😂
For people in the uk you can find beef dripping in tesco, it's Britannia finest beef dripping and its in blocks near the butter
@2:45: Pro-Tip: Ensure your blade assembly is installed in the correct direction.
I wish I didn't see this. Now I have to try making those tallow fries.
McDonald's old fries were the best. Also Harry understood the assignment. LOL
I need more of Cats Domino 😍😍😍😍😍
32 years ago Macdonald's used to use potato pulp and the original juice went to the other factory to make Vodka . The pulp was then extruded in a cold room and packaged in minus 20C so the fries were frozen solid and dropped into Beef and Mutton fat fried . The Fries had a very short shelf life so a rack of 40 baskets had to be used in less than 20 mins otherwise the fries were thrown out defrosted chips in hot fat turns the chips into mush .
ah...those blocks of grease, I do no miss having to unload those things off delivery trucks when I worked fast food lol and I was so glad when we swapped to the cooking oil system
So it seems like the original 1955 recipe is not all that different from a lot of French fry recipes from restaurants. Brining and a double fry with a chilling period between fry sessions.
And the crazy thing is that the original fries are likely better for you.
It would seem so...
Yeah. Frying in beef tallow (saturated fats) is way better than doing vegitable oil frying (trans fats).
conclusion from this video, current fries are worse than the previous fries and for the best result you should buy a vertical fry cutter.
In the Netherlands and Belgium, this was used to fry chips (what Americans call fries). It is out of fashion but it was standard to use this fat. I think it still gives the best taste
some fry cutter designer sometimes ago : "if vertical design is better and effective, well then let's straight to the horizontal."
i read a few years back that the potatoes were Kennebec (sp?) a specific type of russet that can grow super large (about a pound per spud).. maybe i am misremembering...
Lmmfao! That apartment door looks loose as hell and you can see through the sides of it. lol. Tell the landlord it's time for a new door.
This should be called fast food time machine
great stuff guys!
Just waiting for them to make chocolate M&M's using all the ingredients and colours
Is no one going to mention that it makes perfect sense that Joe is a cat guy? Like… he is just a cat in human form. As soon as I saw his cat it all made sense….
Loved this. Please do more
Great episode. I'm old enough to have grown to adulthood on original Mcdonalds fries, so I was an adult when the food police finally succeeded in forcing them to switch away from tallow. At first I hated the new fries, and I still miss the originals. But I guess I got used to the new ones over time. I think even the dumbed down new version is still the best fast food fry out there. But it's still a pale shadow of the greatness of the original recipe. The beef tallow was essential. Maybe the only thing that would have been better is if they'd fried them in rendered bacon fat.
Love it! Going to try this :) thank you again for sharing! New subscriber here! ☺️☺️
2:49 i feel Joe's pain as someone who often cuts and cook potatoes i understand the struggle of the stubborn potato
"brands of potato"
yup sounds about right...
I first had McDonald's in Hawaii in 1973 (visiting from Australia) when I was 4 years old, so I spent the first 17 years of my infrequent visits eating the original version. It was so long ago, though that i can't tell you what the difference is. I still only visit infrequently, so it doesn't really matter, I guess - but it was interesting that both said they could really notice the difference.
Are people not familiar with beef tallow? Surely lard or shortening though right? Very similar.
This was great information!
But just loved the funniest ways from cutting the fries to taste testing the new fries which had probably synthetic beef seasoning!😂🤣
There’s a reason McD’s went all-in on advertising fries in the 1990s, including the use of NBA stars like Larry Bird, Michael Jordan and Grant Hill.
They wanted everyone to like their now-inferior fries/chips without the use of beef flavoring.
The fry cutter was designed by prince castle, a sales company ray Kroc helped create
I love to see joe struggle with the potatoes 😂😂
"further testing required" lmaoo
Everything tasted better at McDonald’s 30+ years ago.
How about doing the same with Burger King when they had the “King Fries”
this is a good idea!
It’s all about cutting costs now, that’s why they’ve got these ridiculous ingredients in them
Perfect timing! It’s Eid day!
It sounds like Richard and Maurice McDonald originally cooked their fries in 100% beef tallow, but Ray Kroc revised the cooking fat to a cost-saving mixture of beef tallow and vegetable oil called 'Formula 47' (after the cost of their 47¢ McDonalds meal). I don't doubt that your re-creation of the McDonald brothers cooking method tastes better, but *how* much better? Given the cost of beef tallow, it would have been nice to see you also include a taste test of the McMenu recipe (with mainly Crisco shortening and a little beef tallow), but thanks for going all out with something similar to the McDonald brother's original cooking method.
This is like the normal person competing in the Olympics meme.
Cat on the counter while you are making food. Skipping this.
in dutch we call that tallow "ossenwit" (oxen white) and use it for deep frying, using a block and a half (1.5 kilos) to fill the entire deep frying pan
not everyone uses it, but it's common enough
the french call it blanc de boeuf (cow/beef white) too
also, "transfat" is such a great username for a woke dating site lol
What brand is the vertical French fry cutter?
Nice video, Beef tellow would be problematic for Kosher and Vegan, And also probably pricey so they've changed it to vegetable oil.
How can you forget the group that using beef tallow would be the most offensive to? HINDUS.
If they ever brought it back, they'd have to sell it as a separate batch from the regular fries, and even then, the very strict religious people would give the low wage Micky D workers a stink if the regular fries are fried in the same fryer as the tallow fries.
My family is Hindu though I consider myself Agnostic. My dad ate McDonald's fries for years after coming to the US in the 70s with no idea they use beef tallow. Were he more religious he'd be one of the people joining that lawsuit.
Don't forget the health problems with beef tellow or lard, ideas changed in time what's more healthy.
@@trovey02 Healthy would be to just cut up some raw potato and put them in the oven. A lot tastier than those fatty Mc Donalds corn syrup fries aswell. And a lot cheaper. But these days people can't even make a sandwich anymore so whatever. ^^
@@jamaly77 I do that, works fine.
Beef tallow is still used tho
Lol, I remember the huge blocks of beef tallow we used at McDonalds for fries in the 80’s
Such a casual flex from Harry with the potato fry slicer over Joe. It somewhat makes up for his potato peeling method. Yikes!
Is this actually shot at 50fps or software enhanced from 25fps to 50fps? It looks weird.
I love the chemistry version!!!!!!
Ingredients for fries in Belgium:
1.Potato
2. Beef Dripping
And that's why they're the best on the planet
Apparently chippies in the UK used to be _so_ much better when they still used beef dripping for cooking their food. Some still do, but they're few and far between.