This format of testing makes it quite hard to compare without continuously having to find the exact spot on each test. A direct comparison of consecutive beam shots, and then tabular data for price/battery life etc would have been most useful here.
When i was riding 40yrs ago the lights would hardly reach the road..as for riding at night it was virtually impossible ha ha…lights now really are night & day different ..fantastic these days..
@@ShiningN0vA you can still get cheap lights that can only light up the area immediately ahead of you But now you also have the choice to pay $400 to strap the sun to your handlebars
You don't even need a flashlight designed for biking. Just get a sodacan style flashlight that holds 3 21700 batteries. Get a flashlight mount for your bike, and you're good. Those kinds of flashlights can be under $100 and outperform these. Those under $100 can reach 20k lumens and above if you are really interested in shining everything in front of you or blind people. Keep spare batteries in your bag, and you're good. Just know that flashlights with that kind of lumen do step down due to heat, but even mid settings are way enough for what you need to do.
Good test, very interesting. But not even mentioning Lupine lights? Yes, they cost a fortune, but I bought my first light 7 years ago and never had any issues with it, still running on the original battery pack. For trail riding, I by now use the Wilma on my handlebar with the Piko on my helmet. When riding together with friends, that combination nearly always outperforms any other lights. And since I have picked up road and gravel recently, I just bought the SL AF, which gives me more than enough light with 1300 lumens for gravel riding and offers street legal lighting once I am back on the road. Bonus point - I just had to buy the lamp itself, the battery packs are interchangeable.
Hi Bjorn. Thanks for your comment. I have previously reviewed a Lupine light, and you can read the review here: www.bikeradar.com/reviews/accessories/lights/front-light/lupine-wilma-r7-review/
Me too I've got some 12 years old and still going strong, spares still available. Expensive High quality + extremly well made = owner satisfaction + good value
Curious why you guys did not include Outbound Lights? I own the Evo Downhill package and i think they are magnificent. I ride the North Shore and surrounding areas of Vancouver, and kill it at night with their lights. 🔥
My NightRider battery finally gave up after 6 years - I decided to treat myself to a Magicshine 800O and was blown away with there power, there incredible, you can’t out run them no matter how fast ur riding or how technical the trail gets. You can forget a helmet light, it disappears in the 8000 lumen even in the corners. I also got the handlebar controller for a little extra (on sale) making it a one touch from the 2nd highest setting to the highest
Having done a fair bit of night riding I'd suggest If you only run one light, whether its spot or flood, put it on your helmet not your bars. Lights on the bars will throw shadows making it impossible to tell the difference between a ripple in the trail and a ditch. A head mounted light will shine light from above making it easier to see into trail features and around corners.
That's not true for all lights, beam pattern matters Lights on bars tend to show more trail details vs helmet. Imo a "Shaped" light works better than a typical spot or flood light
Ride to work hour and half before sunrise and back hour after sunset. Fortunately snow came early this year and it's not completely dark at morning. Also no wet weather and mud at -15C temperature... Or sun warming back annoyingly unlike at summer. Don't think any of these would be fit for road driving with their unlimited light patterns/no low beam for avoiding blinding others.
As a kid, I took the generator headlight off my parents schwinn 10 speed. It rolled on the tire to power the light bulb, so if you go slow, the light is dim.
Personal opinion: it is the best to ride with a handlebar mounted and a helmet light. Around 2000lm (not Aliexpress ;) ) combined output is enough for relaxed trail riding.
Two separate lights is also big safety factor for this kind of riding, in which loss of light would guarantee accident with potential for very serious injury.
Looks like you guys have changed that policy? I have a friend with your DH package and he loves them but after checking out your site it's $110 for shipping to Canada, ouch. I just picked up a Monteer from a local outfit due to the shipping cost. @@OutboundLighting
For Gravel night rides on my RX9 I have the Exposure Strada RS paired with to the new Exposure Zenith helmet light.... I find Exposure with their long term support hard to beat! The same can be said about Hope! British quality at its best 🙂
I use a Ravemen 1600 dual beam headlight as my main and a Lumina 650 as my secondary. The Ravemen points dead ahead and it's second beam adds distance when needed. The Lumina aims just in front of my front wheel on the ground.
I use Sigma buster 2000 lumen..wireless remote... 150€ and i have been using it for 3 or 4 years with zero problems... And Sigma buster 700 lumens on helmet. My next light will be Magicshine monteer 6500 lumens..No need for 8000 lumen light..and they both share the same battery 10 Ah with new 21700 cells...Perfect
No sure why Lupine are not included here, they are the benchmark in terms of performance, reliability, power to weight, available accessories, after sales service and reliability.
I run 1500 lumens and this is good as it does not spook too many birds or animals when I am riding out in the wilds on edge of Peak District. As a result I see lots of wildlife. Bats, (nearly hit me in face) 😂 rabbits and owls. I followed a Tawny Owl through a tree tunnel in the woods this year. More light is not always better. 🙃🌈
magic shine 6500 for me. more power than you need and supports power charging so you can top the battery up from a power bank once you get to the pub. only gripe is i wish it had a remote power button
I have Fenix Bc30r and it's good but it has battery issue, at least my unite. Ravemen looks the most complete light here, it might be my replacement for Fenix
Gloworm shipping is incredible in Europe. Received within 48hours from their supplier and here I was worried that they are from NZ 😂 top notch service and products.
And here I thought flashlights were just trivial light sources. Until I found out about the higher quality LED lights. Changed my whole view on how I see light now. The ones I have has a maximum brightest and you could literally feel the heat coming from the led itself it’s insane. Could sear eyes with that brightness. Could almost be a weapon.
I ride with the sigma buster 2000 on my helmet and an Olight 1500 lumen bar mounted light. I can ride anything with this set up on rides up to 4 hours long
Buy a jumper pack, pair it with any automotive, motorcycle or atv light that runs on 12v. I mounted 2 fog lights consisting of 6 high power led each on 2 of our recumbent trikes. Beat any bike light out there on performance and price. Plus I can charge all my electronics, phones, drones, go-pros and jump start a dead battery on a big block V8 automobile. One of my battery jumper pack is 83200 mah/299wh and the other is 24000 mah/88.8wh. I can ride 6+ hours with my small pack. The small pack with 1 fog light cost me $130.
Outdoor Lighting! It adapts automatically as your eyes adjust to the night, so you don't need it on full the entire time...but damn does the shell get hot just like that L&M and Secca, is there a light that doesn't heat up like a live ember!
You should review Fenix BC30 V2.0 Bike light with Wireless Remote Switch. Price to Lumen is worth it! The machining on FENIX lights are well done too. 👍
For road use you would really want light which doesn't blind others. In some countries road use of these lights would result in fines from police. That's why there are some lights, like Lupine SL AF and SL AX, with separate high and low beam mode.
I hope to buy a bicycle light that is just right, if the light is too bright, it will illuminate other people's eyes, and if it is too dark, the road conditions will be bad.
No mention of SolarStorm? They are awesome. 15 quid. SolarStorm x2 or x3. Whatever. They are both great. Had my x2 for 7 years now and still going strong on the original batteries.
They are not expensive enough for this test but they are great! Especially when you eventually get a better battery pack with say Korean or Japanese batteries. The orig batteries are the limitation.
@@ronclarke8546 Yeah I actually got myself a 6x 18650 battery holder that is waterproof for £12 and has a USB connector in addition to the jack cable, so you can use as a phone / tablet charger. Bought some LG cells (£4 each or thereabouts) and it is actually overkill for what I need on the bike, so I use the original pack mostly. The added pack is 9,000mah. So for around £50 you get one hell of a setup if you want to hit the trails at night. Charger you get with the light is slow but it does the job.
@@royevans4581 Way to go. Way more economical. I did the same - and bought more advanced lights and gave the x3 to my brother. I would like a magicshine eventually.
I have an exposure for the head torch, which is bulletproof, but run the Pavo lifeline on the bar, and I cannot fault the Pavo. It's basic but it does it so well that I sometimes forget that I bought last minute for a ride.
Heard a lot of complaints about the pavo’s mounting system, have you had any issues with the light moving while riding etc Any feedback would be appreciated
Hands up, I'm a roadie and only ride trails on my mountain unicycle (not at night yet, I'm not mental). I got the Lifeline Pavo Motion based on last years test to replace my Exposure Sirius. It's a bit of a lump for a road bike but on unlit Welsh country lanes it's awesome. I've done two 90-min rides at 0-2 degrees this week and it's still running full power off a single charge. The spread is huge, lighting up potholes and hedges way in advance, maybe too wide for the road as it pisses off a few oncoming car drivers but at least they know I'm there. Can't imagine anything better off road, especially for the price
Is this a general request or what Alex was wearing in this video specifically? If it's for this video then the jacket he is wearing is www.freewheel.co.uk/madison-dte-men-s-3-layer-waterproof-storm-jacket-varmcl20w02 but the mid layer is no longer available. We could look at doing a look at a clothing guide in the future!
I've got quite a few from hope, gloworm and exposure. hope win overall for me, have lasted many years, and most reasonable price for quality, i like running the Hope R8 on the bar and R4 on my helmet, perfect for long night rides hitting steep local tech. the gloworm X2 is just as good as the R4 for a helmet light and lite weight though had issues with the wiring on two now. I also like using the Exposure Diablo as its really lite weight, compact battery in body but only for short rides or when I'll still be out as the sun sets as the battery doesn't last as long (being the smallest out of the lot) but still a decent 1h+ on full.
Agree re Diablo. Had one of the very early variants (switch seems to have failed) and have the current variant. Just easy to use for a dark commute through the Bush or road training ride.
Yeah I have one of the Gen 1 version Gloworm X2, is horribly unreliable always stopped working, had mates that have had issues with them too, think most of the issues are due to them using not using annealed cables. I do wonder if they have fixed this with their new Gen2.0 series but tempting to go with Magic Shine MOH55, hopefully are build better quality + have a wider FOV
Exposure Toro for me. Just the right size and weight. Perfect amount of lumens for my needs. No wires to get broken and UK customer support/repairs so you know you'll get a long life out of it.
You're showing the best light can you buy like a generator to keep that battery charged up please let me know because I do some off-roading riding probably a longer of that and stuff I like to get that best light you're talking about but I like to know if you can get a another little generator put on your bicycle to keep it charged up please let me know I appreciate it thank you
Gloworm XSV👍, the ability to change the light pattern, good attaching hardware options and the quality of the build make it my go to light over my Monteer 8000 and Exposure light.
Love my Gloworm X2 and X3. So glad they use Panasonic batteries. Should last many many years. Getting a new 4 cell battery pack (for my X2) in a couple of days. Right now, I am using the 2-cell battery pack version. Great battery pack but not a great run time. Big fan of Exposure lights too.
@@rayr268 My Gloworm lights (have a v1 for the headlight and v2 for the handlebar) are still going well, software updates can be tricky, I have found best way is to delete the previous light found in the app and make it start afresh
It wasn't used in the video but there is a beam shot in the review www.bikeradar.com/reviews/accessories/lights/front-light/magicshine-monteer-8000s-front-light-review/
I've got a 6000 Loom spot and a 9000 Loom flood on my helmet but too much brightness washes out the 3D on the trail and you lose a sense of topography. Handlebar lights are too jittery and you can't see around corners
@@spddmn24 Hi both, thanks for your comments. The lights were bench tested using two fans on full power, and were periodically misted with water and had ice packs applied to them to reduce temperatures. They were also babysat to ensure that if thermal throttling did happen, it could be remedied. I hope that helps. Alex.
@@alexevans1424 Hi Alex, thanks for the clarification and the thorough testing. I wonder how a Magicshine MOH 55 would have stacked up against the 906S.
Thoughts on a decent light to last all night 10-12 hours - does one exist ? Not to be used on technical terrain - undulating gravel mostly. All thoughts gratefully received !
Been night riding for years, started with those halogen cateye lights with the huge led acid battery's you put in a water bottle cage probably 15 + years ago ... fucking horrendous.. we want on to strapping led torches to our bars and helmets which was a vast improvement... Currently run Chinese cree lights but lucky enough to have a pal whose a electronics wizard who builds battery packs that make them run on full for 3 + hrs , modify the mounts also to cam lock and gopro helmet mounts .
How the Blackburn Dayblazer 1500 managed to make it on a 10 Best list I have no idea!!! Sure it makes 1500 lumens at startup but degrades below 1000 in the first 15 min and below 500 in less than an hour. The med. mode is more consistent but less useful IMO. Starts high but is below 500 lumens in less than 5 min. and slowly degrades for the rest of its total runtime making it totally useless for anything off-road. Mode runtimes look good but output levels degrade so rapidly that usable runtimes are poor at best. Add a hard to use mode button, single program UI that includes steady and flashing modes, and the same unreliable strap mount that came with the 1100 version (I tore one of my 1100 mounts and have already seen other tests that have had similar failures on the recently released 1500). Only good thing I can say about this light is that it comes with Gopro adapter.
£189 is reasonable for you 😂 try Nebo Arc500 I guarantee it’ll beat all the lights you mention and it’s only £15 I’ve had many lights but nothing beats arc500
~£20 5000 lumens, 4800mah battery. ~10 hours on lowest setting and upto 2 hours on maximum. Perfect for 99% of riders, and because they are so good with such great value I've got two of them. One can be worn on the helmet for trails. Utterly ridiculous paying the same as many people spend on a cheap bike or a better-than-standard set of wheels, but some people have money to burn I suppose.
What's up with not allowing OP to share all the details of this light, Bike Radar? If this was a paid promotion, I might understand not allowing information to be posted about other lights. But I don't believe this video was identified as a paid promotion.
Personal preference. I wish you'd delay displaying the name of the next light till about ten seconds after the current display. When it's in my pocket learning and I realize you've moved onto the next line and pull my phone out of my pocket to take a screenshot of the light it's long gone
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Why no dynamo lights? Settings that are only possible to set through smartphone apps is a slow death sentence for the light unless free software.
No heavy light with a single sided mount is adequate in my book. Why I ditched NightRider lights.. were the best "inexpensive" option but were engineered to fall off..(/* The minewts were sick though.. had a pair wired on to the bars, just like my grips had been for many bikes.. Glad to see some new options though..)/* Gloworms are tits X)/*
i ride with dual lights with a total of 4 leds . often ride 35 miles in the dark i like the silence of the night and seeing all the critters . just do not under stand why folk run 1 light on a bike . lights are cheap safety device i spent a total of $ 30 us dollars each on my two lights VICTAGEN Bike Headlight get 4 plus hours there water and snow proof re chargeable i have beaten them up a lot of use
Everything functions properly ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Nothing was damaged in the box aside from a decal on the fork. The decal was missing a piece of a corner but I ended up peeling them off anyways. Assembly is easy BUT make sure you tune up the derailleurs. Both the front and rear need adjusting. I'd advise going to a bike shop but I opted out and put in 10+ hours with the help of UA-cam. Ended up fraying a shifter cable but all in all I learned from the experience. The Brakes work well but the front caliper needs adjusting or at least mine did because the rotor was rubbing against the pads. Make sure you swap out the seat, grips, and pedals. For the short run you'll be fine though. I've read that this bike isn't built yet for hard trails but I just need it for the city. PA has some of the worst roads and being in a mountain this was a great choice. Worth the investment!
@@redhunter1535 i ended up buying a lezyne 1300xxl at 80€, so still way cheaper than in the video, needless to lay i directed the beam in my eyes because I'm a primitive male xD i got blind for 10 minutes, it's really effective, really bright, i can easily see at 150+m and it's not only on one point, it's a flood light
Hope logic, 300+ bucks for 1:20 runtime LLOOOOLLLLL, I would rather use solarstorm x6 with custom made battery with runtime of 3h(with average 6cell battery) or even 4 or 5+h with 8cell battery, 8cell costs around 40 45$ to make plus 20 25 for the lamp itself!
So everything you listed for more then £100-£500 I challenge you to beat Arc500 by Nebo which is only below £30 eBay I got it brand new for £15 and trust me it’s more light and power then everything you showed. Ur just showing ppl wrong stuff to buy
You fell for the " higher number means more better" trick you can probably half the lumen claims and then still be too high compared to what they actually deliver.
Well, these are clearly for trailriding, but not for the road - at least in Germany and Switzerland you can be fined if you are caught using these ona road. Except if you go for the Lupine SL AF, which automatically adjusts the light based on your surrounding and even detects other lights coming towards you.
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This format of testing makes it quite hard to compare without continuously having to find the exact spot on each test. A direct comparison of consecutive beam shots, and then tabular data for price/battery life etc would have been most useful here.
When i was riding 40yrs ago the lights would hardly reach the road..as for riding at night it was virtually impossible ha ha…lights now really are night & day different ..fantastic these days..
Yh yk lol I'm not that old but damn tho
But you pay 400 bucks for a headlight now lmao
@@ShiningN0vA you can still get cheap lights that can only light up the area immediately ahead of you
But now you also have the choice to pay $400 to strap the sun to your handlebars
Agreed, with a battery life of 30 minutes, not ideal.
You don't even need a flashlight designed for biking. Just get a sodacan style flashlight that holds 3 21700 batteries. Get a flashlight mount for your bike, and you're good. Those kinds of flashlights can be under $100 and outperform these. Those under $100 can reach 20k lumens and above if you are really interested in shining everything in front of you or blind people. Keep spare batteries in your bag, and you're good. Just know that flashlights with that kind of lumen do step down due to heat, but even mid settings are way enough for what you need to do.
I have the MONTEER 8000S 2.0 & MJ 906S & MJ 6275 MEGA COMBO it's basically like daytime riding, couldn't be happier and well worth the money.
WOW!!!! GREAT VIDEO & EDUCATION!!!! THANKS FOR SHARING!!!!
Good test, very interesting. But not even mentioning Lupine lights? Yes, they cost a fortune, but I bought my first light 7 years ago and never had any issues with it, still running on the original battery pack. For trail riding, I by now use the Wilma on my handlebar with the Piko on my helmet. When riding together with friends, that combination nearly always outperforms any other lights.
And since I have picked up road and gravel recently, I just bought the SL AF, which gives me more than enough light with 1300 lumens for gravel riding and offers street legal lighting once I am back on the road. Bonus point - I just had to buy the lamp itself, the battery packs are interchangeable.
Seconded.
My adventure racing friends / acquiantances exclusively use Lupine.
Hi Bjorn. Thanks for your comment. I have previously reviewed a Lupine light, and you can read the review here: www.bikeradar.com/reviews/accessories/lights/front-light/lupine-wilma-r7-review/
Me too I've got some 12 years old and still going strong, spares still available. Expensive High quality + extremly well made = owner satisfaction + good value
Curious why you guys did not include Outbound Lights? I own the Evo Downhill package and i think they are magnificent.
I ride the North Shore and surrounding areas of Vancouver, and kill it at night with their lights. 🔥
My NightRider battery finally gave up after 6 years - I decided to treat myself to a Magicshine 800O and was blown away with there power, there incredible, you can’t out run them no matter how fast ur riding or how technical the trail gets. You can forget a helmet light, it disappears in the 8000 lumen even in the corners. I also got the handlebar controller for a little extra (on sale) making it a one touch from the 2nd highest setting to the highest
A boeing 747 has 5500 lumen headlights. Your headlamp is not 8000 lumens lmao
Thank you for the review BikeRadar! We love night riding 🤘
Having done a fair bit of night riding I'd suggest If you only run one light, whether its spot or flood, put it on your helmet not your bars. Lights on the bars will throw shadows making it impossible to tell the difference between a ripple in the trail and a ditch. A head mounted light will shine light from above making it easier to see into trail features and around corners.
That's not true for all lights, beam pattern matters
Lights on bars tend to show more trail details vs helmet.
Imo a "Shaped" light works better than a typical spot or flood light
Have you been night riding this year? Comment below and let us know what you think about the lights we've tested!
Ride to work hour and half before sunrise and back hour after sunset.
Fortunately snow came early this year and it's not completely dark at morning.
Also no wet weather and mud at -15C temperature... Or sun warming back annoyingly unlike at summer.
Don't think any of these would be fit for road driving with their unlimited light patterns/no low beam for avoiding blinding others.
Did you measure thermal throttling in the bench top runtime test? I found some lights throttle even while riding.
As a kid, I took the generator headlight off my parents schwinn 10 speed. It rolled on the tire to power the light bulb, so if you go slow, the light is dim.
I ride in the dark daily, morning and night. You can never have enough light....
Pinning and liking your own comment? That’s like smelling your own farts and marvelling at its fragrance.
Personal opinion: it is the best to ride with a handlebar mounted and a helmet light. Around 2000lm (not Aliexpress ;) ) combined output is enough for relaxed trail riding.
Interesting, thanks. 👍
You can find out how many lumens we think you need for trail riding at 00:25 Thanks for watching!
Two separate lights is also big safety factor for this kind of riding, in which loss of light would guarantee accident with potential for very serious injury.
Fully agree, two lights, 2000 lumens.
These reviews are great, and very helpful. Thank you
Would of liked to see Outbound Lighting tested and rated
We would too, but we never get invited to these tests since we don't sell via affiliates. :)
Looks like you guys have changed that policy? I have a friend with your DH package and he loves them but after checking out your site it's $110 for shipping to Canada, ouch. I just picked up a Monteer from a local outfit due to the shipping cost. @@OutboundLighting
Lupine lights for me 👌🏻
For Gravel night rides on my RX9 I have the Exposure Strada RS paired with to the new Exposure Zenith helmet light.... I find Exposure with their long term support hard to beat! The same can be said about Hope! British quality at its best 🙂
I use a Ravemen 1600 dual beam headlight as my main and a Lumina 650 as my secondary. The Ravemen points dead ahead and it's second beam adds distance when needed. The Lumina aims just in front of my front wheel on the ground.
I already order Monteer 8000 v2.0 via Amazon, sold by an official store, shipped very fast 2-3 days arrival, so far so good!
This helps me
Thanks
Thanks for watching and enjoy the night rides!
I use Sigma buster 2000 lumen..wireless remote... 150€ and i have been using it for 3 or 4 years with zero problems... And Sigma buster 700 lumens on helmet. My next light will be Magicshine monteer 6500 lumens..No need for 8000 lumen light..and they both share the same battery 10 Ah with new 21700 cells...Perfect
No sure why Lupine are not included here, they are the benchmark in terms of performance, reliability, power to weight, available accessories, after sales service and reliability.
I run 1500 lumens and this is good as it does not spook too many birds or animals when I am riding out in the wilds on edge of Peak District. As a result I see lots of wildlife. Bats, (nearly hit me in face) 😂 rabbits and owls. I followed a Tawny Owl through a tree tunnel in the woods this year. More light is not always better. 🙃🌈
Cool lights. Have you reviewed the Fenix Bc30 V1 and V2?
I like the old Light & Motion HID lights. They work for me.
Magicshine or Lifeline would be good enough for my all terrain trail needs.
Thanks!
Great Video.. I use the Garmin UT800, works with my Garmin Head Unit and my Garmin RTL515 …. 🇺🇸
Loved your video. Thank you for the info! What kind of speedometer is that that you have?
magic shine 6500 for me. more power than you need and supports power charging so you can top the battery up from a power bank once you get to the pub.
only gripe is i wish it had a remote power button
I love my Nitecore br35. I have 4 of them on my fat tire bike. They have road mode, city mode, and trail mode. They cost me $125 each.
I have Fenix Bc30r and it's good but it has battery issue, at least my unite. Ravemen looks the most complete light here, it might be my replacement for Fenix
Could we have a review of helmet mount spot lights ?
Could you, please, do similar comparison of lights for road cycling? Thank you.
What jacket are you wearing? Great video.
I paid £12 for some ever ready USB chargeable led lights for my bike in B&M and there great I'm well chuffed with them
Gloworm shipping is incredible in Europe. Received within 48hours from their supplier and here I was worried that they are from NZ 😂 top notch service and products.
Exposure joystick mk2 14 years old and still going strong
testing battery should be done at an comparable outside temparature like 0°C or maybe 5°C if you argue for winter usage
And here I thought flashlights were just trivial light sources. Until I found out about the higher quality LED lights. Changed my whole view on how I see light now.
The ones I have has a maximum brightest and you could literally feel the heat coming from the led itself it’s insane. Could sear eyes with that brightness. Could almost be a weapon.
Disappointed to not see Outbound. Love my light!!
I ride with the sigma buster 2000 on my helmet and an Olight 1500 lumen bar mounted light. I can ride anything with this set up on rides up to 4 hours long
Buy a jumper pack, pair it with any automotive, motorcycle or atv light that runs on 12v. I mounted 2 fog lights consisting of 6 high power led each on 2 of our recumbent trikes. Beat any bike light out there on performance and price. Plus I can charge all my electronics, phones, drones, go-pros and jump start a dead battery on a big block V8 automobile. One of my battery jumper pack is 83200 mah/299wh and the other is 24000 mah/88.8wh. I can ride 6+ hours with my small pack. The small pack with 1 fog light cost me $130.
My favorite lamp is LedX, but Magicshine also ok
What is the name of your speed sensor?
Outdoor Lighting! It adapts automatically as your eyes adjust to the night, so you don't need it on full the entire time...but damn does the shell get hot just like that L&M and Secca, is there a light that doesn't heat up like a live ember!
Thanks / can you help me / what is better for my haibike flyon - the Sky Beamer or the magicshine 8000 Lumen with the ( new remote).
Thanks
Have you tried any of the models from Fenix? How are they?
I think beam pattern is the most important thing. Less strength, but wide fairly homogen beam is the best. Too much strength could blind us to.
I always wonder what the effect would be if we strap 6-8 pound shop lights to our bars? Quite good maybe? But really good, I presume, for £6 to £8!
Exactly. Those "bike" lights are way overpriced.
Outbound lighting beats them all.
You should review Fenix BC30 V2.0 Bike light with Wireless Remote Switch. Price to Lumen is worth it! The machining on FENIX lights are well done too. 👍
I head out before dawn so that I arrive at the trailhead right around sunrise. Which of these lights would be best for those few miles on the tarmac?
For road use you would really want light which doesn't blind others.
In some countries road use of these lights would result in fines from police.
That's why there are some lights, like Lupine SL AF and SL AX, with separate high and low beam mode.
@@tuunaes Thank you. I will consider those.
Have yout test any bike lights of UGOE brand?
I hope to buy a bicycle light that is just right, if the light is too bright, it will illuminate other people's eyes, and if it is too dark, the road conditions will be bad.
I was riding with 600 lumens for the last 10 years and had no issues
No mention of SolarStorm? They are awesome. 15 quid. SolarStorm x2 or x3. Whatever. They are both great. Had my x2 for 7 years now and still going strong on the original batteries.
Same here. Got one on my bars and one on my lid.
They are not expensive enough for this test but they are great! Especially when you eventually get a better battery pack with say Korean or Japanese batteries. The orig batteries are the limitation.
@@ronclarke8546 Yeah I actually got myself a 6x 18650 battery holder that is waterproof for £12 and has a USB connector in addition to the jack cable, so you can use as a phone / tablet charger. Bought some LG cells (£4 each or thereabouts) and it is actually overkill for what I need on the bike, so I use the original pack mostly. The added pack is 9,000mah. So for around £50 you get one hell of a setup if you want to hit the trails at night. Charger you get with the light is slow but it does the job.
@@royevans4581 Way to go. Way more economical. I did the same - and bought more advanced lights and gave the x3 to my brother. I would like a magicshine eventually.
I have an exposure for the head torch, which is bulletproof, but run the Pavo lifeline on the bar, and I cannot fault the Pavo. It's basic but it does it so well that I sometimes forget that I bought last minute for a ride.
Heard a lot of complaints about the pavo’s mounting system, have you had any issues with the light moving while riding etc
Any feedback would be appreciated
Hands up, I'm a roadie and only ride trails on my mountain unicycle (not at night yet, I'm not mental). I got the Lifeline Pavo Motion based on last years test to replace my Exposure Sirius. It's a bit of a lump for a road bike but on unlit Welsh country lanes it's awesome. I've done two 90-min rides at 0-2 degrees this week and it's still running full power off a single charge. The spread is huge, lighting up potholes and hedges way in advance, maybe too wide for the road as it pisses off a few oncoming car drivers but at least they know I'm there. Can't imagine anything better off road, especially for the price
Great video. Can you share your jacket and mid layer info and thoughts?
Is this a general request or what Alex was wearing in this video specifically? If it's for this video then the jacket he is wearing is www.freewheel.co.uk/madison-dte-men-s-3-layer-waterproof-storm-jacket-varmcl20w02 but the mid layer is no longer available.
We could look at doing a look at a clothing guide in the future!
I've got quite a few from hope, gloworm and exposure. hope win overall for me, have lasted many years, and most reasonable price for quality, i like running the Hope R8 on the bar and R4 on my helmet, perfect for long night rides hitting steep local tech. the gloworm X2 is just as good as the R4 for a helmet light and lite weight though had issues with the wiring on two now. I also like using the Exposure Diablo as its really lite weight, compact battery in body but only for short rides or when I'll still be out as the sun sets as the battery doesn't last as long (being the smallest out of the lot) but still a decent 1h+ on full.
Agree re Diablo. Had one of the very early variants (switch seems to have failed) and have the current variant. Just easy to use for a dark commute through the Bush or road training ride.
Yeah I have one of the Gen 1 version Gloworm X2, is horribly unreliable always stopped working, had mates that have had issues with them too, think most of the issues are due to them using not using annealed cables. I do wonder if they have fixed this with their new Gen2.0 series but tempting to go with Magic Shine MOH55, hopefully are build better quality + have a wider FOV
Exposure Toro for me. Just the right size and weight. Perfect amount of lumens for my needs. No wires to get broken and UK customer support/repairs so you know you'll get a long life out of it.
I've been using the Olight rn1500 and love it. *The Olight RN line is currently on sale today on Amazon
Was hoping to see the monteer s v2 in ur list
You're showing the best light can you buy like a generator to keep that battery charged up please let me know because I do some off-roading riding probably a longer of that and stuff I like to get that best light you're talking about but I like to know if you can get a another little generator put on your bicycle to keep it charged up please let me know I appreciate it thank you
Get one or two 7-watt 12 volt LED MR-16 lamps and (3) 18650 cells for
what about the olight allty 2000 and RN 3500?
How about the lights from Outbound Lighting?
Gloworm XSV👍, the ability to change the light pattern, good attaching hardware options and the quality of the build make it my go to light over my Monteer 8000 and Exposure light.
Are you still a happy camper with the gloworm, no issues?
@@phillvallace absolutely, just got them out again for the winter season, 👍
Love my Gloworm X2 and X3. So glad they use Panasonic batteries. Should last many many years. Getting a new 4 cell battery pack (for my X2) in a couple of days. Right now, I am using the 2-cell battery pack version. Great battery pack but not a great run time. Big fan of Exposure lights too.
I’m about to buy the Gloworm. The 8000 died on me twice already
@@rayr268 My Gloworm lights (have a v1 for the headlight and v2 for the handlebar) are still going well, software updates can be tricky, I have found best way is to delete the previous light found in the app and make it start afresh
Convenient timing
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Which is the best all-in-one?
Really should know the waterproofing of a light when reviewing. Many of us
need a light with IP65 or similar
A shame we didn't get a static full beam shot of the 8000 lumen monster. Otherwise this is valuable info. Thanks :)
It wasn't used in the video but there is a beam shot in the review www.bikeradar.com/reviews/accessories/lights/front-light/magicshine-monteer-8000s-front-light-review/
I like the night ride , seeing everything in front is amazing but you never know what’s following
Thank u
I've got a 6000 Loom spot and a 9000 Loom flood on my helmet but too much brightness washes out the 3D on the trail and you lose a sense of topography. Handlebar lights are too jittery and you can't see around corners
My guess would be, that the longer runtimes are due to thermal throttling
The much longer run times than advertising makes me think they just ran them stationary with no wind or Fan blowing on them.
@@spddmn24 Hi both, thanks for your comments. The lights were bench tested using two fans on full power, and were periodically misted with water and had ice packs applied to them to reduce temperatures. They were also babysat to ensure that if thermal throttling did happen, it could be remedied. I hope that helps. Alex.
@@alexevans1424 Hi Alex, thanks for the clarification and the thorough testing. I wonder how a Magicshine MOH 55 would have stacked up against the 906S.
Thoughts on a decent light to last all night 10-12 hours - does one exist ? Not to be used on technical terrain - undulating gravel mostly. All thoughts gratefully received !
Been night riding for years, started with those halogen cateye lights with the huge led acid battery's you put in a water bottle cage probably 15 + years ago ... fucking horrendous.. we want on to strapping led torches to our bars and helmets which was a vast improvement... Currently run Chinese cree lights but lucky enough to have a pal whose a electronics wizard who builds battery packs that make them run on full for 3 + hrs , modify the mounts also to cam lock and gopro helmet mounts .
How the Blackburn Dayblazer 1500 managed to make it on a 10 Best list I have no idea!!! Sure it makes 1500 lumens at startup but degrades below 1000 in the first 15 min and below 500 in less than an hour. The med. mode is more consistent but less useful IMO. Starts high but is below 500 lumens in less than 5 min. and slowly degrades for the rest of its total runtime making it totally useless for anything off-road. Mode runtimes look good but output levels degrade so rapidly that usable runtimes are poor at best. Add a hard to use mode button, single program UI that includes steady and flashing modes, and the same unreliable strap mount that came with the 1100 version (I tore one of my 1100 mounts and have already seen other tests that have had similar failures on the recently released 1500). Only good thing I can say about this light is that it comes with Gopro adapter.
£189 is reasonable for you 😂 try Nebo Arc500 I guarantee it’ll beat all the lights you mention and it’s only £15 I’ve had many lights but nothing beats arc500
Thanks for that I'm going to give the Nebo a try. I can't believe how much these companies are charging for lights. Total rip off.
~£20 5000 lumens, 4800mah battery. ~10 hours on lowest setting and upto 2 hours on maximum. Perfect for 99% of riders, and because they are so good with such great value I've got two of them. One can be worn on the helmet for trails.
Utterly ridiculous paying the same as many people spend on a cheap bike or a better-than-standard set of wheels, but some people have money to burn I suppose.
Currently £17.69 instead of £19.99.
What light are you recommending ?
@@gazbaileyrn They've deleted my replies 5-6 times
@@74_Green are you talking about Amazon lights ?
What's up with not allowing OP to share all the details of this light, Bike Radar? If this was a paid promotion, I might understand not allowing information to be posted about other lights. But I don't believe this video was identified as a paid promotion.
Leyzine 1300xxl best light ive bought for biking (70 Euro).
Personal preference. I wish you'd delay displaying the name of the next light till about ten seconds after the current display.
When it's in my pocket learning and I realize you've moved onto the next line and pull my phone out of my pocket to take a screenshot of the light it's long gone
Why no dynamo lights? Settings that are only possible to set through smartphone apps is a slow death sentence for the light unless free software.
No heavy light with a single sided mount is adequate in my book. Why I ditched NightRider lights.. were the best "inexpensive" option but were engineered to fall off..(/* The minewts were sick though.. had a pair wired on to the bars, just like my grips had been for many bikes.. Glad to see some new options though..)/* Gloworms are tits X)/*
Who remembers the good old dynamo???
When I was riding 80 years ago we had nothing like this! The only light I had was from my cigarette 🚬
You're like 96?
@@markopuljak5264 Not like. Whatever that means.
I’m 98 fella.
@@billyrock8305 Good looks g keep it up
@@markopuljak5264 Triple digits next goal. Then finding a hot young 80 year old chick
i ride with dual lights with a total of 4 leds . often ride 35 miles in the dark i like the silence of the night and seeing all the critters . just do not under stand why folk run 1 light on a bike . lights are cheap safety device i spent a total of $ 30 us dollars each on my two lights VICTAGEN Bike Headlight get 4 plus hours there water and snow proof re chargeable i have beaten them up a lot of use
Everything functions properly ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Nothing was damaged in the box aside from a decal on the fork. The decal was missing a piece of a corner but I ended up peeling them off anyways. Assembly is easy BUT make sure you tune up the derailleurs. Both the front and rear need adjusting. I'd advise going to a bike shop but I opted out and put in 10+ hours with the help of UA-cam. Ended up fraying a shifter cable but all in all I learned from the experience. The Brakes work well but the front caliper needs adjusting or at least mine did because the rotor was rubbing against the pads. Make sure you swap out the seat, grips, and pedals. For the short run you'll be fine though. I've read that this bike isn't built yet for hard trails but I just need it for the city. PA has some of the worst roads and being in a mountain this was a great choice. Worth the investment!
cateye 6000 and lupine alpha 7200 the best.
Prices are just too much, i have a headlight that cost me 60€ from Amazon that does the same amount of light, why do bike lights cost so much ??
Same amount of light of which one? I bought a 300 lumens ones I'll let you know if it's good.
@@redhunter1535 i ended up buying a lezyne 1300xxl at 80€, so still way cheaper than in the video, needless to lay i directed the beam in my eyes because I'm a primitive male xD i got blind for 10 minutes, it's really effective, really bright, i can easily see at 150+m and it's not only on one point, it's a flood light
Hope logic, 300+ bucks for 1:20 runtime LLOOOOLLLLL, I would rather use solarstorm x6 with custom made battery with runtime of 3h(with average 6cell battery) or even 4 or 5+h with 8cell battery, 8cell costs around 40 45$ to make plus 20 25 for the lamp itself!
So everything you listed for more then £100-£500 I challenge you to beat Arc500 by Nebo which is only below £30 eBay I got it brand new for £15 and trust me it’s more light and power then everything you showed. Ur just showing ppl wrong stuff to buy
yeah, i just wont feed the kids for a week.....foods overrated anyway
You fell for the " higher number means more better" trick you can probably half the lumen claims and then still be too high compared to what they actually deliver.
the only thing I buy on aliexpress
I tried to buy a magicshine but my bank blocked the transaction saying its a fraud...
No four4th lights again then? Cracking lights
Lupine every day of the week
Nobody talking about how to avoid blinding people/cars in front of you, while using front lights ?!
Well, these are clearly for trailriding, but not for the road - at least in Germany and Switzerland you can be fined if you are caught using these ona road. Except if you go for the Lupine SL AF, which automatically adjusts the light based on your surrounding and even detects other lights coming towards you.
If there's cars on the MTB trail then you've got bigger problems than blinding them!