Quadro P2000 hardware Transcoding in plex

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  • Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
  • Testing and benchmarking Plex Hardware Transcoding with the P2000! 23 Transcodes simultaneously.
    Nvidia Max # of Encode and decode GPU support link:
    developer.nvid...
    Plex document showing 2k passmark per transcode:
    support.plex.t...
    Music from:
    www.bensound.com/
    #P2000plexserver #P2000Plex #Plex #PlexServer

КОМЕНТАРІ • 225

  • @javinpaoli
    @javinpaoli 6 років тому +38

    I'm surprised that this was your first video! It's put together very well.
    I just found out about Plex yesterday and how versatile it really is. I like the idea of being able to manage your own content. Not only for TV or Movies, but even Camera Upload and Music.
    Will definitely be subbing as I go into sponge mode and absorb as much as I can about plex/media servers/etc. lol Cheers!

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  6 років тому +3

      Thank you for the encouragement it means a lot! :)
      You sound like me, the rabbit hole is deep good luck, sir! I'll have another video uploaded soon which might help you on your journey.

  • @HugoAguilera
    @HugoAguilera 5 років тому +18

    Dude, thank you so much for a great video! I've been using PLEX for years, but I've never had a need to have more than 1 stream going at a time, since the only place we watch our PLEX content is our living room TV. Thanks again!

  • @Shinta0SaINt
    @Shinta0SaINt 6 років тому +11

    Beautiful work man, I love your methodology for testing! Keep up the good work, best Regards Shane (Trinidad)

  • @soundfire79
    @soundfire79 5 років тому +1

    Picked up a Quadro K2200 on ebay for $40. Almost all the load was taken off the old AMD APU (A8-3870K) and was able to get 9 1080p h.264, 22Mbs -> 10Mbs transcoded streams when I ran out of clients. The K2200 was running at about 90% and the CPU was bouncing to 100% because of the AC3 -> AAC audio transcoding on every stream. I bought the K2200 because of this video and it works great. Could not get HW transcoding to work in any browser and had to use a mix of Android, Roku, iPad and Windows 10 Plex clients. Thanks and keep em coming!

  • @melbuilt
    @melbuilt 5 років тому +6

    You sir remind me of Donald Sunderland. I have never seen two people that speak English more clear that you and him. Thanks for the great videos.

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  5 років тому +1

      I'll take that as a huge compliment, because when i was a kid I think in elementary school i had a speech impediment. so ty :)

  • @Moorestx
    @Moorestx 6 років тому +5

    super informative video thank you so much!

  • @84Actionjack
    @84Actionjack 5 років тому +3

    I'm sold! Purchased the card on ebay this week. Thanks!

    • @qtran101
      @qtran101 5 років тому

      84Actionjack what OS did you use?

    • @cbach1997
      @cbach1997 4 роки тому +1

      @@qtran101 I'm running my server (with a P2000) on Win10 Pro x64. When I let Windows upgrade from 1909 to 2004, things went hayware and the machine routinely froze and needed an OS rebuild. Stay away from 2004 as long as possible until MS irons things out. Things had been wonderful for at least six months prior to the upgrade.

  • @Bill-IONS
    @Bill-IONS 5 років тому +4

    Great video. I have been struggling with using my synology NAS as a plex server for way too long. This may be an answer to my prayers. Would love to see a build video with this GPU installed!

  • @-ColorMehJewish-
    @-ColorMehJewish- Рік тому

    That was hands-down, the best fn description i have found while looking for information about this card (compared to others) and how it functions in a real use-case for Plex.
    Thank you. I wish I found this sooner.. before I picked up a K2000 :/ Oh well. Good for a workstation I guess

  • @darkcom152
    @darkcom152 3 роки тому

    Wow! At last!!!! A comprehensive and well thought out analysis! Thank you for putting this together! You've earned a new follower.

  • @cheerbeerification
    @cheerbeerification 5 років тому +2

    Still waiting for someone to do a P400 video. Has the same transcode engine as the p2000 but costs $65 and uses only 30 watts vs p2000 75 watts. I don't know if there number of cuda cores matters when transcoding, I think the number of encode/decode chips does. Yes the p400 is limited to 2 encodes but it's trivial nowadays to unlock this limit. Don't have anyway to test as I'm not willing to splurge $400 on a p2000 when I don't believe it has any advantages. I was able to transcode 6 4k hevc streams to 4mbs 720p streams before I ran out of clients. This is with a slow 3770 processor.

  • @millergamingdk9584
    @millergamingdk9584 5 років тому +11

    i would love to see these tests again on same setups, but with normal GTX's but with the Limit unlock hack, and see how many streams you can get from your GTX 980ti and others

    • @williamhustonrn6160
      @williamhustonrn6160 5 років тому +5

      I own GTX1050ti, GTX1650, and GTX1080ti and they all can do 20+ 1080p h265-h264 sessions, the 1080ti has 2 chips, but current hacked drivers don't seem to unlock the use of the 2nd chip. Honestly you are far better off just purchasing hardware at each TV or Screen that can display the H265 stream directly, consumes so much less energy and doesn't bog down your system as much and you can get some seriously good quality 4k results pushing the limits of H265 settings, I have mine set up at a point now on settings in handbrake that I can store 4k videos at nearly the same storage space as most 1080p h264 videos using default settings... Yes I have a slight loss in quality, but its livable and better than viewing it in 1080p. Also, i run both my 1050 and 1650 @ 50% power in MSI Afterburner and can still transcode over 10+ streams.

    • @ube2slow
      @ube2slow 4 роки тому

      @@williamhustonrn6160 You mention purchasing hardware at each tv. Could you explain a little more about what you are referring to. Sorry, a newb at this media server plex stuff and just trying to soak up as much info to make a decision on how to proceed. Thanks

    • @joeshmoe346
      @joeshmoe346 4 роки тому

      @@ube2slow Purchase a device that can stream H265 natively such as Nvidia Shield. From quick research, Apple TV 4K transcodes on occasion, Xbox One X transcodes audio.

  • @pietroantonelli6961
    @pietroantonelli6961 6 років тому +7

    Love your methodology and you're thinking I was wondering if you have ever thought about putting up a video for everybody that wouldn't need so much like a small family three or four remote transcodes like maybe use in a p620 or a k... I truly think that would be a fascinating video but the videos you put up in whole are fantastic

  • @lucasgautier8373
    @lucasgautier8373 5 років тому +1

    Extremely fantastic video sir! This was really handy in figuring out the value-prop of a Quatro card. There are hacks to remove the limit on the consumer cards, but it is probably worth it to get a Quatro. GTX wasn't designed for 24/7 use and Quatro is more power efficient.

  • @carb0nxl
    @carb0nxl 6 років тому +1

    I thought I was the only one obsessed with Sloths. Cheers!

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  6 років тому +2

      haha i am always surprised when i meet a fellow sloth fan. Here in my city the local Zoo offers a 'close encounter' with a Sloth -- I got to meet one up close and feed it! I definitely recommend it if you can find something similar in your home town!

  • @toptruck59
    @toptruck59 4 роки тому

    Great video ,great testing. I just ordered a P2000 today. tks to you, I got a better understanding of transcoding.

  • @plexnbrown760
    @plexnbrown760 5 років тому +1

    Thank you sir for your wealth of knowledge. I’m planning on replacing my fx-8350 plex server soon and free dell parts on hand and a quadro p2000.

  • @HenrikCaspersen
    @HenrikCaspersen 6 років тому +5

    What a great video! You covered all the subjects I have been looking for. Building a new Plex server and was looking for i9 and 12 cores, but this looks like a much better option, one Question what OS are you using Windows? would this work on Linux? (Would like to create a VM for Plex using Linux/CentOS-7 but unsure if this HW transcoding would work?)

  • @knipster
    @knipster 6 років тому +1

    Looking forward to the next video. Curious to hear how you think about upfront vs ongoing costs when putting together a server. Perhaps you'd also comment on what capacity thresholds should drive server sizing or the shift to hardware transcoding.

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  6 років тому +1

      Excellent idea ty for the feedback! Expect a video on this topic. (i will definitely give you credit for the idea!)

  • @luisvazquez3224
    @luisvazquez3224 6 років тому +6

    Great video and thanks for detailed info! Unless I missed it, what file size was used during testing? Doesn't file size and or compression of the original content also have an influence on how may transcoded streams you will achieve?

  • @4MinuteTechReview
    @4MinuteTechReview 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for the video! I actually just changed out my P2000 for the GTX 1070 and modified the transcode limit. With the 1070 I'm noticing about a 20% to 35% performance increase for live TV streams. I think this is due to having the second and nvenc chip, although it doesn't help with decoding it takes some of the stress off the card for encoding.

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  5 років тому

      There you go! yeah buddy. That GPU is a beast isnt it? :) good work!

    • @rdsii64
      @rdsii64 4 роки тому +1

      How did you modify the transcode limit? That sounds like a useful hack.

  • @robingeorge9833
    @robingeorge9833 5 років тому +2

    How to enable p400 or p2000 for Plex transcoding on dell T320 . i am already enabled Hardware acceleration on under plex settings . still not taking my card for transcoding . please help me

  • @cdoublejj
    @cdoublejj 5 років тому +1

    awesome video!

  • @Jorgisimo
    @Jorgisimo 6 років тому +2

    Man thanks for the video I was looking at getting a bigger rig, but if I can up my little Dell server with a new PSU and P2000 that would be great.

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  6 років тому +2

      No problem! Please feel free to leave whatever feedback you can. This is my first video afterall :)
      I'll give you some inside info in the next video: I threw the p2000 in an old Small form factor computer with an i5-2400 and a 250 watt PSU. Since the p2000 has no external power needs (powered entirely from the pci-e interface) It really doesn't need much for PSU. It actually performed quite well! stay tuned for that video, Jorge!

    • @Jorgisimo
      @Jorgisimo 6 років тому +1

      Sloth Tech TV wow that’s interesting. I got to see what my T30 has built in. I was hard to pass on a Dell T30 for 309 bucks as a docker box. Just looking for a deal on ram so I can transcode in ram and I’ll rebuild it over the weekend on a spare SSD I have.

    • @Jorgisimo
      @Jorgisimo 6 років тому +1

      yeah just looked at my T30 it has a 290 power supply and according to the nvidia whitepapers the P2000 is 75W thats crazy good. Ill put out a price alert and see if i can snag one for cheap somewhere.

  • @lordme88
    @lordme88 6 років тому +2

    Really nice video!
    I have only had issue with HEVC (DCA) to H264 (Webbrowser) transcoding.
    Specs on my server:
    Xeon E3-1275 v6 "Quad core" (Unable to activate igpu sadly)
    32GB DDR4 ECC
    Quadro P2000
    Samsung 970pro 512GB on x4 pcie lane
    Motherboard/Case is an ASUS RS200-E9-PS2-F.
    Really nice and small format.
    Modern hardware but I lack the igpu support (Got to find a way to activate it).

  • @Carrion2k
    @Carrion2k 5 років тому +4

    First; love your channel and great information. I recently purchased the P2000 and can confirm that it is amazeballs.
    Question concerning your concurrent stream tests @ 6:10 : Does streaming the same movie have an affect on the performance being that it can reuse the transcode cache or does plex not take advantage of that?

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  5 років тому +4

      thank you for the kudos; it means a lot especially from such an esteemed killer like yourself, Krombopulos Michael!
      You are right in that Plex doesn't really seem to take advantage of the transcode cache.. it might be because it doesn't seem to hold on to it for very long, but i'm not sure. Each transcode creates its own cache.

  • @Hobbles_
    @Hobbles_ 5 років тому

    Fantastic video! This specifically covered a number of questions I had regarding hardware transcoding. I do have a suggestion for a potential followup regarding the quality debate. SSIM and VMAF methods provide quantitative video quality values to compare video quality based on a source file and the different encodes. Were you to encode videos using the same settings as PLEX for both HW on and off, we could see how they compared to the source so that we could say definitively whether or not people should go for hardware transcoding!
    Either way, hope you have a fantastic day!

  • @mcrommert
    @mcrommert 6 років тому +13

    Would be interested in a quick sync vs quadro comparison...modern i7 vs that p2000

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  6 років тому +3

      in the video i tested an i7-6700k -- you looking for a few generations newer? :) i could try and work that in! :D ( i think the cpu's just dont measure up really to that p2000 tbh even newer generations)

    • @mcrommert
      @mcrommert 6 років тому +2

      Sloth Tech TV I didn’t see quick sync test

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  6 років тому +3

      It wasn't comprehensive i just ran a test with a 980ti (around 3:50 & 5:25) .. I think quicksync does help the performance (click thru speed in plex), but it only seems to net an extra transcode or so overall. I'll come back to this in a later video. thanks for your feedback too! :)

    • @mcrommert
      @mcrommert 6 років тому +3

      @@SlothTechTV I meant for no gpu...use only an i7 from this or last Rev with hardware transcode on

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  6 років тому +4

      Roger that. Next video will be focused on quicksync :)

  • @djamrit510
    @djamrit510 2 роки тому

    Your video are very detailed and thorough. Please use a better mic so it sounds louder. Thanks

  • @steveb8726
    @steveb8726 5 років тому

    Excellent video! Thank you

  • @johntanner611
    @johntanner611 9 місяців тому

    Love your Plex videos, would you mind doing an updated version of these videos for 2023-2024? I am taking a similar journey to what you had with your plex boxes, but I never did use external drives. First I started just using my gaming rig for plex, but then I moved to a Dell R720 with dual E5-2667-v2 CPUs and 192 gigs of ram. It has been running okay, but if I wanna give more access to my friends in plex it cannot handel it. I do have a small GTX 745 that can help with transcodes, but now I am building an EYPC 7601 box for plex. I need to decide what GPU to add to it for more transcodes, and I know the P2000 is still somewhat relevant, but older at this point. Keep up the great plex videos!

  • @binaryheartbeat1081
    @binaryheartbeat1081 6 років тому +9

    Would love to see how the card performs on an older system (like way old Core2Duo)

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  6 років тому +12

      Thanks for the feedback. After doing this video that was the question i was left with 'how well can this perform on a slow computer?' -- The next video will address this. stay tuned.

    • @binaryheartbeat1081
      @binaryheartbeat1081 6 років тому +5

      Excellent, subscribed and waiting

  • @PeterBrockie
    @PeterBrockie 5 років тому +5

    I just wish FreeBSD had support for hardware encoding. It sucks having a perfectly good Plex server running in a FreeNAS jail with no ability to use a GPU.

    • @lesliestandifer
      @lesliestandifer 5 років тому +2

      Peter Brockie if your board and cpu supports VTxd you could run Plex in a VM and just pass the gpu to the VM.

    • @Danthrax66
      @Danthrax66 5 років тому +2

      You can do what I did and switch to using ZFS on linux (ubuntu) it's been a much better experience and if you learn a bit about the OS you can get automated alerts and setup scrubs for the pool, etc. to be mostly feature compliant with the gui options on FreeNAS. IMO being on an OS with mainstream developer support for the things I use was worth the setup.

    • @some0ne8
      @some0ne8 5 років тому +2

      Looks like this has been implemented in the latest update (plex pass only)

    • @PeterBrockie
      @PeterBrockie 5 років тому +1

      Intel QuickSync only. I don't think Nvidia/AMD GPU encoding are functional. Which kinda sucks since most people are probably running Xeons without iGPUs (although many E3s have them).

  • @seanomik6176
    @seanomik6176 Рік тому

    Thanks! I recently put an old 970 I had laying around in my server to try out hardware transcoding and it was utter garbage. Looking at this though, it looks like there must be quality differences in the transcoded output. I'll be saving up for this now, haha

  • @RetroBerner
    @RetroBerner 6 років тому +2

    Interesting, but kinda useless unless you are trying to take on Netflix. I get by just fine for a household of 4 and 3 out of house family members using a 3770k with 16gb of RAM and using quicksync for hardware transcoding. Just realized this your first video, great job, subbed.

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  6 років тому

      I understand -- most people don't need to do anything more than the 3-4 transcodes you describe. My next video (should be up in the next day or two) tackles this topic to help others find the most cost effective plex server. You definitely hit the nail on the head with your build -- Quicksync is where its at. :)

    • @JudgeNLN
      @JudgeNLN 5 років тому

      You should definitely notice a quality difference in that generation of CPU, though. Only in the past few years has Quick Sync improved to really rival software transcoding in quality.

    • @RetroBerner
      @RetroBerner 5 років тому

      @@JudgeNLN Sure QSV sacrifices some quality, but you can't see that at 8-10 ft away on a 50" 1080p screen

  • @dir7y
    @dir7y 6 років тому +4

    What about subtitles and HW Transcoding?

  • @stuabcca1
    @stuabcca1 6 років тому +3

    Great video!. Was wondering about the other quadro Range? Like the p1000 etc if possible would you be able to do a comparison how many transcodes each card gets?

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  6 років тому +2

      unfortunately, the cards below the P2000 are locked to 2 transcodes via the drivers. You can; however, run a patch to unlock them. I have a blog article written up on our website: www.slothtechtv.com but it only works in linux right now and is limited to encode only so you cant do both encode/decode even with the driver patch/hack.

    • @stuabcca1
      @stuabcca1 6 років тому +1

      @@SlothTechTV
      Thanks for the quick reply!
      Would be interesting to see what card performed as well as the p 2000 quadro from the Nvidia range without the limitation. Hoping there's a driver work around for Nvidia soon for Windows

  • @MrTeeseeone
    @MrTeeseeone 5 років тому +1

    Good job man!

  • @gamergye
    @gamergye 5 років тому +1

    You can patch the normal drivers to allow consumer GPU's to do more than 2 streams.

    • @cbach1997
      @cbach1997 4 роки тому

      P2000 doesn't require PCIE 6 pin power or massive power supplies, runs cool, quiet, and is built for endurance as pointed out in the video.

  • @ube2slow
    @ube2slow 4 роки тому

    Great video with some good info

  • @getliquified
    @getliquified 5 років тому +1

    that card is a plex powerhouse

  • @winsomenz
    @winsomenz 5 років тому +1

    Get Emby to decode and encode with graphic card. Plex's transcoding engine is ancient!

  • @abecx
    @abecx 6 років тому +1

    The biggest issue that I've encountered is Plex does not do hardware decoding on the GPU, it will only do it on the CPU if it sees you have an Intel QuickSync. This limits the amount of streams you can transcode due to core limitations on the processor. They offered no solution for this. I switched to emby because of it since i have too many concurrent streams during high traffic times. Emby license is also better because all my users can share the benefits instead of each user having to buy their own.

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  6 років тому +2

      This limitation is only in Linux and not in Windows. There are rumors they will be fixing this soon (but im not entirely sure). I did this in windows and both hardware decoding and encoding worked great!

  • @J03LRl0S
    @J03LRl0S Рік тому

    R610 going with the shaved off PCIE 8x to fit the 16x lane P2000. Excited for best of both worlds with server class Dual XEON and Hardware transcoding on P2000 while having enough SSD SATA 6X in a pool and oodles of DDR3 128GB for running services and VMs and share hardware resources without breaking a sweat. I can rest afterwards.

  • @GamesCoffeeCollecting
    @GamesCoffeeCollecting 5 років тому

    Super cool video! keep it up

  • @deangannon2682
    @deangannon2682 5 років тому +2

    Is it possible to add 2 * nvidia p2000 to a plex server for more transcoding capabilities?

    • @jhopiv
      @jhopiv 5 років тому +1

      I also wonder if two p2000 card will work. Will plex use both or just one?

    • @MarcoDM1571
      @MarcoDM1571 5 років тому

      I spoke with him a few days ago and he confirmed you can use two P2000 cards and Plex will take advantage of it

  • @breedofone23
    @breedofone23 5 років тому +3

    curious. Right now I have an old Vishara 8 core amd cpu with a 3gb amd 7970 as my plex server with 16gb or ddr3 ram. I'm able to do local 4k streaming with little to no problem. As for 1080 and 720p streams I can normally handle about 8-13 streams obvisouly depending on if it's 720p movie or 1080p. My question is that I also have an HP Z420 with 32gb of ddr3 ram Xeon not sure of the model of the xeon cpu and a nvidia quadro K2000 gpu. Do you think it would be more bennefial to make the HPz420 with the quadro k2000 as the Plex server or leave it as the AMD.
    Also good channel man.. Keep up the good work.

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  5 років тому +3

      Thanks for the positive feedback! :)
      The 7970 is powerful, but depending on the Xeon in that Z420 it will likely be more powerful with hw transcoding on (assuming it supports quicksync -- i have another video on the topic). From what i've seen RADEON GPUs don't come close to out performing decent quicksync enabled xeons.
      The K2000 would probably improve performance a bit; however, it looks like it doesn't support vp8, vp9, or h265. that might not be a big deal to you if you don't have a lot of content that needs to be transcoded by the cpu if in those formats.
      That said i've never tested a K2000 so please report back your findings if you give it a go! :)

    • @breedofone23
      @breedofone23 5 років тому +2

      awesome. Ok I may try that cause the HP Z420 now is just acting as a DC in my home. So I can throw Plex on that and do some testing. Thanks for the input man.

  • @cobusbenade3502
    @cobusbenade3502 3 роки тому

    really amazing video man. Been looking for a video on hardware transcoding as well as quality. Would love your thoughts on the hacks available to get the consumer cards to do more than 2 or three streams.

  • @White_King
    @White_King 4 роки тому

    Thank you! This is exactly what I was looking for but I didn't understand like the 30% you were saying (as expected. A conclusion in a mortal language can be a plus for people like me :D).
    Is there a cheaper card that will work the same but with less power (I'm thinking on less concurrent transcoding). I'm about to look if the card supports NvEnc (which I'm sure it does, considering the price)

  • @rallycars786
    @rallycars786 5 років тому

    Great Video

  • @amirhossen7429
    @amirhossen7429 6 років тому +1

    👏

  • @rinzl3rs349
    @rinzl3rs349 5 років тому +4

    I think the hardware transconde loss of quality is from people who do twitch streaming.

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  5 років тому +1

      this ^ and if you're doing hw transcoding on pre intel haswell generation gpu's. They focused on quality > speed haswell and later with quicksync.

  • @markstanchin1692
    @markstanchin1692 3 роки тому

    Wow good info. This was 2 years ago...I'm looking to build a FreeNas/Plex server what would you recommend today? Thanks, Mark

  • @nicthegreat9
    @nicthegreat9 6 років тому +3

    I have a Dell R710 running esxi with a window 10 vm for my Plex server can I use the p2000 for hardware transcoding?

    • @CookieManCookies
      @CookieManCookies 6 років тому +1

      How? Those R710's are 20 watts max on all the PCI-e risers. And there's very limited space.

    • @nicthegreat9
      @nicthegreat9 6 років тому +2

      @@CookieManCookies I'm not sure that's why I asked.

  • @Husky_cdn
    @Husky_cdn 6 років тому +2

    interesting. i do have an quadro k4000 not being used that according to your link has unlimited streams. unfortunately i only have at most 2 local direct play streams and one offsite stream at most and do not need that kind of power. still who doesnt like building overpowered rig especially when you already have unused hardware.

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  6 років тому

      The biggest benefit I've seen from using GPU hardware accelerated transcoding compared to CPU software transcoding are power costs. You having that K4000 really should save you money in the long run as software transcoding takes longer and uses more power.

  • @geekcruz
    @geekcruz 5 років тому

    Great video inspired me enough to buy the P2000. I don't know if you said or I missed it but what OS are you testing on? Being this is a server are you running with ESXi? if so is it safe to assume that there were no issues with GPU pass-through? I have been seeing mixed comments about Linux vs Windows, have you tested that?

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  5 років тому

      I haven't tested esxi passthrough but it should work I've read others using it
      I tested in windows 10

  • @DrDwizz
    @DrDwizz 5 років тому +4

    What driver is everyone using? 24.21.14.1163 from 9/18/2018?

  • @mcrommert
    @mcrommert 6 років тому +2

    Since Radeons don't have the two stream limit - have you given any thought to comparing something like a 580 to the p2000?

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  6 років тому +3

      That is something we will be covering in a future video. ill give you a sneak peek -- While You're right that there is no stream limit; i was surprised the performance of the rx580 wasn't what i had expected as on paper its a really good card (at least compared to the p2000).

  • @jtpdx2209
    @jtpdx2209 6 років тому +1

    Thanks for sharing this information. I've learned a lot. I am trying to rip all of my Blu-ray discs and save them to my server but it is taking forever. Do you have recommendations for disk setup to speed up the encoding? I think that may be where my bottleneck is.

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  6 років тому

      it really depends heavily on the disk(s), i could probably cover that topic a bit in a future video ty for the suggestion! :)

  • @neilhogan1742
    @neilhogan1742 3 роки тому

    You can patch the consumer drivers to unlock the number

  • @rolandleyco573
    @rolandleyco573 5 років тому +1

    Question, How is Xeon X5670 compatible with hardware transcoding? Don't you need a processor that supports Intel quick sync as stated in the plex website?
    support.plex.tv/articles/115002178853-using-hardware-accelerated-streaming/
    Or is this because the processor is paired up with Quadro p2000 and it is using the dedicated GPU for transcoding?

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  5 років тому +1

      hardware transcoding can be done with an iGPU (a quicksync capable CPU that has an integrated GPU) or an add-on GPU (like a P2000). the performance you'd see from x5670's with a P2000 would be almost identical as the p2000 does the majority of the work here. If you're asking how well X5670's would do compared to a P2000 then just look at the results of the x5670's in the video without the P2000, they got a fraction of the performance compared to when i added the P2000 and enabled hardware transcoding.

  • @justin_wynne
    @justin_wynne 4 роки тому +1

    Who needs 23 streams?

  • @bb4192
    @bb4192 4 роки тому

    Subscribed! Very informative video. Would love to hear your input. I've been running plex on my personal computer and thinking about separating it and creating a separate server. I would have a maximum of 10-15 connections but would want to keep my power bill low too. Will my i7-2600k be strong enough to handle that? would pairing the p2000 help? or just upgrade to a i7-8700 (with or without gpu)? Thanks!

  • @zed952
    @zed952 6 років тому +2

    Say what if you used A RAM disk for the transcoding folder🤔, Is the loading times faster with the p2000?

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  6 років тому +2

      I used memory for most of the transcoding tests and the reading of the files to eliminate disk read/write bottlenecks. Thats why i used a server with 72GB of ram. The loading times are indeed faster or equivalent on the P2000 with HW ON in most cases, its only when transcoding down 4k files that i noticed what would be perceivable slowness.

  • @merrillweinheimer4063
    @merrillweinheimer4063 6 років тому +2

    I'd be interested to see a comparison with a Radeon™ Pro WX 5100

    • @mcmormus
      @mcmormus 4 роки тому

      Merrill Weinheimer as far as I know AMD sucks in terms of quality in comparison to Nvidia

  • @ztech-consulting
    @ztech-consulting 5 років тому +2

    Don't ask me why, but you seem like you are a Linus Tech Tips member :)

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  5 років тому

      I love Linus Tech Tips I have been a fan since pretty much the beginning :)

    • @ztech-consulting
      @ztech-consulting 5 років тому +1

      @@SlothTechTV Likewise!! I've been watching Linus since his NCIX days.
      Amazing how fast and big they have grown!

  • @eracermatt
    @eracermatt 5 років тому +1

    Would you have any Performance number on how many streams the P2000 can handle when Transcoding H265 4k to H264 4k? Great Video :)

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  5 років тому +1

      4K (HEVC Main 10 HDR) H265 12mbps AC3 to h264 10mbps 1080p AAC (maximum quality) roughly 9... +or- 1 transcode.

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  5 років тому +1

      That assumes you have a CPU powerful enough to handle the audio and other pieces...

    • @eracermatt
      @eracermatt 5 років тому

      i7 2600 should hopefully be enought? @@SlothTechTV

    • @eracermatt
      @eracermatt 5 років тому +1

      Thank you for the reply

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  5 років тому

      the 2600 will do quite well with a p2000, i dont know that you will get all 9 4k streams to load like i did (i used an i5-8600k) but im sure you'll get a good chunk of them to work.
      @@eracermatt

  • @Reflexiony
    @Reflexiony 5 років тому

    Are there any limitations for Intel Quick Sync?
    Why is H.265 limited to H.264 and not H.265 for the smaller compressions (H.265 to H.265) ?

  • @shreyas__
    @shreyas__ Рік тому

    really curious about hdr transcoding

  • @williammccomis7042
    @williammccomis7042 4 роки тому

    Have you noticed any difference in the picture quality with software vs hardware transcoding?

  • @evellior
    @evellior 5 років тому

    Can you compare a GTX card with the 'sessions limit' unlocked next? It'd be interesting to find which unlocked GTX (or even RTX) matches the P2000 closest in performance.

  • @TomyCroSound
    @TomyCroSound 3 роки тому

    I have a plex server on my old computer with Intel Core i3 3220 3.3 GHz Dual core, 4GB RAM, integrate grapjic. I own a ready-made motherboard with Intel Xeon X3470 2.93 GHz Quad core, with 12 GB ram, which I don't need. I was thinking of replacing those two boards, but I'm wondering - would it be a step forward, backward, or standing in place? Thank you!

  • @RealKanashii
    @RealKanashii 5 років тому

    Really nice testing, you made a great job but what about 4k 10bits (HDR) h265 transcoding to 1080p 246h and 720p 264h? Can you add some test while transcoding these profiles?

  • @suicidalkatt
    @suicidalkatt 6 років тому +1

    I myself have a p2000 on my server and it's a power sipper. Thing is a beast when it comes to transcodes and I'm seriously impressed at how amazing it is.
    Have you tried setting up a ramdisk for your transcode directory?

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  6 років тому +2

      Thanks for your input, suicidalkatt -- its great to hear i'm not alone out here using gpu's for plex. The tests i ran in the video had a 60GB transcode directory that was set up using Softperfect ramdisk, I had to move the transcodes to the SSD when i got up to 23 though as it started to fill up the disk (to be fair there were some media files on it as well)
      I was skeptical as the card isn't cheap, but it definitely beats out spending $450 for 2 e5-2680 v2's. It's quieter (those 1U chassis are so loud!), less power consumption, and less heat! I really think its the best bang for your buck at this time. I wanted to share my experience since theres so little info out there about it.

  • @pr0p
    @pr0p 6 років тому +2

    Can you test with a weaker cpu?

  • @jhreg11
    @jhreg11 6 років тому +1

    Which duel motherboard did you use for the e5- 2680 v2 ??

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  6 років тому +1

      s2600gz best bang for buck price wise.

  • @soapa4279
    @soapa4279 4 роки тому

    Sorry, I'm that guy. Quattro = Audi, Quadro = Nvidia. *Hides*

  • @coltonmilne1371
    @coltonmilne1371 2 роки тому

    I’m having the hardest time getting Plex to use my Quadro P2000 instead of the Intel Xeon E3-1225v5 for hardware transcoding 10-bit 4K HDR HEVC. The Intel iGPU struggles badly with just the one stream but my Quadro is idling at 0% utilization. I’m running Ubuntu Server 20.0.4 LTS and have the newest custom driver from Nvidia. Any thoughts?

  • @DesertCookie
    @DesertCookie 3 роки тому

    0,12 USD/kWh?! Man, electricity is expensive in Germany: 0,3 €/kWh. That's why I put a GTX 1650 in my rig as transcoding GPU instead of an older one that would consume more power.

  • @ImportimageMedia
    @ImportimageMedia 5 років тому

    Would I be able to use windows pc that’s using a drobo to store my movies? Just wondering if I can still use the HW transcoding option? Thanks

  • @titothomas78
    @titothomas78 2 місяці тому

    is a normal core i5 14000k model sapport nvedia quadro p5000 with a 700 series chipset motherboard ?e

  • @BrendanBerg
    @BrendanBerg 6 років тому +1

    Would love to throw one of these in my 2U dual E5620 machine. I assume there shouldn't be an issue with this GPU and Unraid?

    • @BrendanBerg
      @BrendanBerg 6 років тому

      Did a quick search after posting my comment and see that Unraid doesn't have NVIDIA drivers... boo...

    • @jiamiekori6575
      @jiamiekori6575 6 років тому

      Brendan Berg why don't you pass it through to VM and get your Plex setup from there?

    • @BrendanBerg
      @BrendanBerg 6 років тому

      @jiamie kori, a friend also just recommended looking into that. I've actually not used VMs in Unraid yet, just Docker for Plex and other apps.

    • @jhopiv
      @jhopiv 5 років тому

      @@BrendanBerg
      ua-cam.com/video/GOhHiFAXwOE/v-deo.html Take a look at Spaceinvader One's new video on how to use GPU transcoding in unraid for plex

  • @vincentlemoine3830
    @vincentlemoine3830 3 роки тому

    You can unlock the 980 to handle more than 2 transcodes

  • @jdl728
    @jdl728 3 роки тому

    I dont know about you guys but I would never need more then 4-5 running on my plex at a time and that is a lot.

  • @trinhk
    @trinhk 5 років тому

    I know this is about Plex transcoding, would the P2000 benefit from photo editings like Photoshop or Lightroom?

  • @laurililleoks9595
    @laurililleoks9595 6 місяців тому

    can you make new vidoe for modern hardware and new plex software , does it hawe changed

  • @donglobal
    @donglobal 4 роки тому

    Hi Sloth or anyone else who can shed some light on this. I am about to pull the trigger on the purchase of a Quadra P2000, however I noticed that there is now a Quadra P2200 which is 2019 that costs less than $10 more. does anyone have experience with this card and would it have the same or better performance to the P2000?

  • @florincogean8525
    @florincogean8525 Рік тому

    Can you recomand a card that can be inserted in a Hp Gen8 Microserver?

  • @NextLevelCode
    @NextLevelCode 4 роки тому

    p400 for 50 bucks with unlocked driver kicking ass over here :)

  • @Anders708
    @Anders708 5 років тому

    What about the quadro m2000? Would that be great for hw transcoding?

  • @GavinKacavenda
    @GavinKacavenda 6 років тому +4

    there is a hack available to unlock the non Quatro​ cards now ;)

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  6 років тому +2

      I know, I wrote about it on our website 3-4 weeks ago I think we had the first how to article outside of the developer of the patch itself: slothtechtv.com/2018/09/unlock-the-transcode-or-session-limit-on-nvidia-consumer-grade-gpus

    • @infurious5748
      @infurious5748 6 років тому +2

      Confirm the 'hack' works. I had six 1080P transcoding streams running on a GTX 1050 TI and it wasn't breaking a sweat. (Plex Server running on Ubuntu). Six streams is all I tested, don't know what my max is.

    • @mfaine
      @mfaine 4 роки тому

      @@SlothTechTV this post is missing

  • @ZRubidium
    @ZRubidium 5 років тому

    I decided to make my old "gaming" system into a server rig...an x299 i9-7900x 64gb DDR4 and was looking at adding a RTX 4000. The price of the P2000 is nice, but I don't like to keep upgrading for the future and I have a lot of 4k content, do you think the RTX 4000 (quadro) would be a great option?

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  5 років тому

      I bought a P5000, and unless you have a very powerful dual cpu system its hard to push it to its limits.. anything that scored below 21,000 in passmark barely out performed the p2000. that 7900x might do it.. but i was just surprised at how much cpu power you need to push those cards.

  • @wraptors
    @wraptors 5 років тому

    Do I need to have an Intel CPU that has quick sync support in order to use this? I'm currently using Xeon X5650 which doesn't have quick sync support. A bit confused as the plex FAQ says you need quick sync for hardware encoding.

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  5 років тому

      You do not have to have quicksync for NVENC (NVIDIA hardware transcoding) to work. In fact In this video i tested this with a non quick sync enabled CPU.

  • @micperez819
    @micperez819 3 роки тому

    Is it even worth getting a Quadro if you have limited upload speeds?

  • @mehammered
    @mehammered 5 років тому

    The P2000 is great but are there other options? Maybe a little lower end

  • @mfaine
    @mfaine 2 роки тому

    Do you think this is still true with a modern card like a 3080?

  • @williamhustonrn6160
    @williamhustonrn6160 5 років тому

    My personal experience testing my GTX1050ti, GTX1650, and GTX1080ti with the unlocked driver in unraid. That they all can transcode roughly the exact same amount +/- 1 stream because they all use the same chip for transcoding...

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  5 років тому

      The 1070 and 1080 ti has multiple nvenc chips making them a bit faster and capable of a bit more (plus vram )

    • @williamhustonrn6160
      @williamhustonrn6160 5 років тому

      @@SlothTechTV is there like a special driver hack to unlock the 2nd chip? On unraid using the hacked nvidia drivers i get the same amount of transcodes with the 1050ti as i do with the 1080ti...

  • @emabolou7192
    @emabolou7192 3 роки тому

    hey handsome man :)

  • @reloader9114
    @reloader9114 5 років тому

    on your plex server what OS are you running I just got the P2000 card and I'm trying to get the GPU to show up on my task manager in server 2012 r2 with no luck any help would be great thks Jason

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  5 років тому

      Windows 10, I'm not sure it works on windows server; can you run a hyperv VM and pass the GPU through to a windows 10 VM from server?

  • @guywithFX
    @guywithFX 5 років тому

    What is the ideal host operating system to use hardware transcoding with the P2000 currently?

    • @SlothTechTV
      @SlothTechTV  5 років тому +1

      I would stick to windows 10, get the full capabilities out of the GPU that way. Some people have a problem with running windows 10 as your plex server (i think its mostly ignorance and or stubbornness...) I haven't had any issues at all with it personally. If you have to run it as a VM and pass the GPU through or just bare metal the thing its your bes toption with a P2000.