Real Stradivarius VS Exact Copy! Can You Hear The Difference?

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  • @jakemiranda5851
    @jakemiranda5851 6 років тому +619

    I guessed wrong. I did like no.2 slightly more than the first . Incredible workmanship with the copy though.

    • @FilipeHein
      @FilipeHein 6 років тому

      I guessed it right but i'm hearing it from professional recording studio equipment.

    • @marakixd6203
      @marakixd6203 6 років тому

      Me too!!

    • @luizas2345
      @luizas2345 5 років тому +15

      Me too I liked number two more it sound more deep and rich for me

    • @istvanbartha7985
      @istvanbartha7985 5 років тому +5

      I agree....The copy sounded slightly better...but No 1 was more worn...and you could see the age on the backside

    • @josef1ores
      @josef1ores 5 років тому +4

      The original stradivarius is warmer and sound more harmonious than the copy. The copy is not bad, it's just different, it has a clearer and brighter sound, it's a balanced violin.

  • @Paulina-ji1yk
    @Paulina-ji1yk 6 років тому +226

    Welp...i was thinking 2nd one was stradivari 😂

  • @bobthegoat7090
    @bobthegoat7090 2 роки тому +224

    A double-blind study from 2017 showed that neither the musician playing or the audience could tell the difference between a strad and a copy. It is simply because people automatically perceive something as better because of history, price, etc.

    • @nars2496
      @nars2496 2 роки тому +13

      From scishow?

    • @MonthlyBoys
      @MonthlyBoys 2 роки тому +10

      I can tell. Even if I like violin 2 more, But the first one is more richer like dark coffee.

    • @isabellagoogleaccount8418
      @isabellagoogleaccount8418 2 роки тому +6

      Oh please. The audience. The audience is stupid 99% of the times.

    • @natam1616
      @natam1616 2 роки тому +4

      ​@@isabellagoogleaccount8418 yeah, but, "...showed that neither the >>!musician playing!

    • @isabellagoogleaccount8418
      @isabellagoogleaccount8418 2 роки тому +6

      ​@@natam1616 The musician playing is too close to hear the difference

  • @portraitbyelise2309
    @portraitbyelise2309 4 роки тому +100

    I prefered the copy, number 2 !!! It sounded crispier in high registrer and deeper in low register. Very clean and pure sound. Good to know we still have incredible violin makers nowadays too :-)

    • @richardcarter5314
      @richardcarter5314 Рік тому +1

      I expected the copy to have a muffled or "green" tone, as mine did when it was new.

    • @ksiazepaweek1064
      @ksiazepaweek1064 8 місяців тому

      crips, creamy, deep jeez people there are only 4 ways to define sound. Bright - dark, Fat - thin.

    • @Gigatless
      @Gigatless 7 місяців тому +3

      I absolutely agree. I liked the copy way more, seems like nowadays they can do something better than Stradivarius!

    • @Ibetala
      @Ibetala 5 місяців тому

      Same!

    • @rickyanthony
      @rickyanthony 5 місяців тому

      Maybe it's because violins are not really that complicated or hard to make if some basic physics is followed (nature's gift to us) and the rest of it is a lot of snobbery and marketing.

  • @Mobile_Dom
    @Mobile_Dom 6 років тому +847

    I have no idea which is which, but I feel like i prefer the sound of No.2.

    • @stellavista6893
      @stellavista6893 6 років тому +27

      me too,
      I thought it was the stradivarius

    • @Shannon_ODonnell
      @Shannon_ODonnell 5 років тому +35

      Me too. #2 sounded warmer to me. But then again, you could take what I know about violins and write it in a book and still have enough blank pages leftover to make a very nice paper-violin from. :-)

    • @Katherine-qs8ws
      @Katherine-qs8ws 5 років тому +15

      I did too but then I noticed that she would play the same notes on a lower string for violin 2, which inherently creates a warmer sound.

    • @AndyRoidEU
      @AndyRoidEU 5 років тому +5

      Yeah, these Stradivari sound bad.

    • @iamcalf546
      @iamcalf546 5 років тому

      me too!!!!!

  • @SergioGrandi
    @SergioGrandi 6 років тому +287

    I thought Strad was #1 mostly because of wood color, but I prefered the sound of #2, for being much warmer at lower frequency harmonics.

    • @alesh2275
      @alesh2275 4 роки тому +1

      SergioGrandi agree

    • @OhKnow379
      @OhKnow379 3 роки тому +5

      She played in the higher positions on lower notes instead of playing open notes for some reason which automatically makes those notes warmer

    • @cringe937
      @cringe937 2 роки тому +1

      it also had a certain richness to it, and loads of small details probably got lost due to UA-cam‘s horrendous compression.

  • @isaacbright3490
    @isaacbright3490 4 роки тому +91

    Looking at the comments it seems that im the odd man out. I like the first one better. Idk the sound feels warmer and more pure. The second sounded more bold. Both sounded excellent of course. Who knows maybe im overthinking it

    • @annakathrina8415
      @annakathrina8415 4 роки тому +2

      I like it too

    • @pinakidutta2885
      @pinakidutta2885 4 роки тому +1

      You're not overthinking

    • @Raynewyn
      @Raynewyn 4 роки тому +4

      Hell no, you're not overthinking. I listened closely to them both - not paying attention to the way she played - and picked the first one. You can certainly hear the warmth and purity, the richness and melodiousness that can only come from a Strad. It's like listening to a Yamaha grand piano vs a Steinway or Bosendorfer. If you know what you're listening to and how it should sound, you can hear it.

    • @markcapundag2221
      @markcapundag2221 4 роки тому

      Uhm same here lol

    • @deepadass9236
      @deepadass9236 4 роки тому

      Same here

  • @urbandecay3436
    @urbandecay3436 2 роки тому +178

    It's a relief knowing that the newer copy sounds better.

  • @SimonStreuffViolinEducation
    @SimonStreuffViolinEducation 6 років тому +493

    it made me so nervous when you hold both violins in the hand and waving them around nearly touching them at 2:30. I am sure both are great violins. I liked the 2. one much better, but knowing that the other one is the original makes me think, if the setup of the violins was different. The strings for example are different, as I see on the strad are dark sounding obligatos and the other violin is strung with evah golds I believe

    • @humanseekingtruth6080
      @humanseekingtruth6080 6 років тому +6

      @Simon Streuff Violin-Education • I do think she is more careful and not careless dude.

    • @SimonStreuffViolinEducation
      @SimonStreuffViolinEducation 6 років тому +23

      o.k. I didn't say she is careless!

    • @humanseekingtruth6080
      @humanseekingtruth6080 6 років тому +6

      @Simon Streuff Violin-Education • if you are nervous it’s cause you don’t trust her to be careful, or you would not have said something about her holding them as she did

    • @SimonStreuffViolinEducation
      @SimonStreuffViolinEducation 6 років тому +41

      Elijah Leon ok, I would put it this way: I said what I said, not what you said I said.

    • @humanseekingtruth6080
      @humanseekingtruth6080 6 років тому +3

      @Simon Streuff Violin-Education • you said something and that meant something about yourself and her. Deny it all you u want, but truth is truth.

  • @petster13
    @petster13 5 років тому +27

    I'm a violinist, I guess right and i could hear a really distinct difference, I've played with really old and new violins and i find that old violins absorb a lot of oils/greases etc and actually lays on a heavier lacquer or wood which gives it almost deeper and mellowy sound. The new violin sounded really buzzy and doesn't have that tone. You can really hear the difference when she plays low and soft frequencies.

    • @knutholt3486
      @knutholt3486 11 місяців тому +2

      But I liked this buzzyness and therefore founfd nr 2 the best.

    • @patriciajrs46
      @patriciajrs46 7 місяців тому

      ​@@knutholt3486This is what I've been trying to point out--- personal preference. Now days that's usually all it is.

  • @huzvlogs3799
    @huzvlogs3799 5 років тому +30

    With certainty.... 😌😌😌
    Violin #1 sounds classic, gentle and mature
    Violin #2 sounds young, aggressive and playful

    • @yuinurahilyon5711
      @yuinurahilyon5711 4 роки тому +2

      aoxilus What she/he meant by young was how the violin sounded, how it was much more newer compared to the Stradivari's sound, correct me if I'm wrong. Old violins can be special for us violinist.

    • @yuinurahilyon5711
      @yuinurahilyon5711 4 роки тому

      aoxilus All violins has a different wide range of spectrum sounds and sound properties isn't necessary to be used as a reference towards an instrumental sound production in frequencies indifference of our hair cell bundles that drops ions or chemicals and neurotransmitters, which creates a ripple of waves that sends signals into our brains which helps us identity to what that sound is, in which is produced by the violin.
      Unless you have a spectrum analyzer which is entirely not necessary, we humans can use our ears, that is all the way to our hair cell bundles inside our ear cochlea that helps us understand and to neutralize that ability of ours. Foremost saying that it isn't necessary either if you have a high pitch or loud volume generating violin, it will all depend on how much force you put into the violin.
      But I don't think all violins would sound that low in pitch if it did then the sound would be false unison, but if it still isn't generating enough sound for the audience to hear, then tune it into a more tighter positions of the string if you're a professional tuner or someone you know is. But it isn't recommended to do that because it will only affect the stable sound, in which the violin produces, if you're still not satisfied with 400+ hertz then just buy a damn electric violin, which connects to the speakers or something else, in which amplifies the sound into a more easing sound so that the audiences can hear from afar. But the only thing you should be worried about, is if the sound is stable so that it may not create those squeaky sounds or scratchy just a reference that I'm using.

  • @Zappyguy111
    @Zappyguy111 2 роки тому +47

    I felt as though you were putting more effort into playing violin 2, stronger crescendos, more vibrato &etc. It made violin 1 sound flat and boring where as violin 2 sounded slightly brighter but much more alive.
    It made it difficult to judge the difference, but factoring that fact in, I still think violin 2 sounds better, even if I do feel it received preferential treatment in this blind test.

    • @troyg3831
      @troyg3831 2 роки тому +3

      I thought this as well and I can't play a 🎻

    • @VicariousAdventurer
      @VicariousAdventurer 2 роки тому +1

      I think #1 still had more body, and I was interpreting things as #2 needed more effort to sound (the sound seemed more equal than the effort)

    • @VicariousAdventurer
      @VicariousAdventurer 2 роки тому +2

      @Star Sea Not the only take away. 1. It is very difficult to play two different instruments "the same" 2. The Strad was showing signs of the other described power of some Strads, that is, the easy projection with little effort that the other violin could not match. It is obvious that she tried to match the result (output), with the control input being different (putting my engineer hat on).

    • @AmedeeBoulette
      @AmedeeBoulette 2 роки тому

      @Star Sea there you go 👌

    • @poitevienphilip
      @poitevienphilip 2 роки тому

      yess

  • @Frankshoesman
    @Frankshoesman 6 років тому +125

    The 2nd violin is noticeably louder and more responsive. The G string sounds great, but the E string is borderline abrasive. The 1st violin is not as loud, but clearly has more complexity and roundness to the sound.

    • @UncleFuncle69
      @UncleFuncle69 5 років тому +7

      see I genuinely thought number 2 had more complexity in its sound, i was dumb founded when she said it was the copy

    • @vordt4139
      @vordt4139 5 років тому

      Exactly.

    • @MissCase530
      @MissCase530 5 років тому +5

      So you thought the 2nd was the better violin but found out at the end that the 1st was the Strad.

  • @MarthyM
    @MarthyM 6 років тому +121

    I thought No. 2 sounded more alive, so I thought it was the newer one... And it was.

    • @janeroth8511
      @janeroth8511 4 роки тому +6

      It is not like that that newer violins normally sound Better or more alive how you called

    • @luborkloda8903
      @luborkloda8903 4 роки тому +2

      Well, I think original Stradivarius violins were created for different strings with much lower tension, soft tone and maybe the wood was much thicker on the plates then on modern violins today. But as Stradivarius violins were played by many players (and consequently repaired and tuned-up) the luthiers unfortunatelly removed some material from the plates and reinforced bass bar and make original Stradivarius violins much louder and deeper. Modern violins have even thinner plates to have the same amount of vibrations as matured 400 hundred old originals so they tend to have a more "brass like" sound. But some people like it this way. Loud and shiny. But old violins have more often very round and deeper voice with a lot of velvet on it.

  • @steel6322
    @steel6322 3 роки тому +68

    I thought #1 was the real strad. To my ears it had more depth and warmth. But holy cow - that is a dang good copy. I bet it will age like the original.

    • @pneron2032
      @pneron2032 2 роки тому +3

      Age? That would imply that Stradivariuses weren't "Stradivariuses" when Stradivarius made them...which is obviously B.S.

    • @pneron2032
      @pneron2032 2 роки тому +3

      @elpe estrobo ... The point may be over your head, but I'll try. David is saying that with time the copy will "age" and become as good as the original. That would imply that when Stradivarius made his instruments, they were only mediocre, but now that they have "aged" WE are enjoying superior instruments...To be clear, I am implying that this "ageing" theory of improving violins is nonsense.

    • @techrev9999
      @techrev9999 2 роки тому +2

      Having never played violin, but having watched a lot of Twoset videos in the past few days, I tend to agree. The copy sounded better to my highly untrained ears. Almost how I would expect the real strad to sound when it was new. The real strad sounded a little muted and worn. Which, I assume with no foundation, would result in a different set of characteristics a musician could capitalize on in a performance.

    • @irisce2799
      @irisce2799 Рік тому

      The copy had a sweeter sound. The Strad had a blunt harshness in comparison and scratched easily. Personally if I was given the choice and I was a young rising soloist, I would pick the new $60K violin because it would be my chance to share with the world a unique tone and sound. I would be able to make the first mark on the violin and it would feel more like it was "made for me".

    • @devinwilliams2481
      @devinwilliams2481 Рік тому

      Correct

  • @marcosandri7983
    @marcosandri7983 3 роки тому +7

    The second is the sound of the violin itself, so pure and loud and fine-tuned.
    The first is old, slightly imprecise, that wants you to put more emphasis on the expression since it lacks of depth. If you know it's a Stradivari, you actually prefer the first emotionally wise. The second sound wise.
    The stradivari sounds so much like something human with a soul, and imperfections make it special somehow.

    • @Sallorin
      @Sallorin 7 місяців тому +1

      bro call a stradivarus imprecise

  • @kismetcapitan
    @kismetcapitan 6 років тому +87

    I guessed #2. There's an extra dimension of depth especially going down on the G and D strings. To be honest, even with infinite money I'd take #2. It felt more "complex" in the way a fine wine has many different flavor notes. #1 has a slightly superior tone but is nearly indistinguishable, but the tone feels so focused as to be monochromatic. It's notable that there is a wide range of tonality amongst all Strads, and it takes a player quite some time to bond with a specific Strad to really get that last 10% out of it.

    • @user-do5hd7zb4x
      @user-do5hd7zb4x Місяць тому

      I would agree, I was not able to fully appreciate my grandfather's Cremona copy untill I had repaired its one and only bow. I used natural black horse tail hair 288 strands. Then she perked up!

  • @git_r_done_776
    @git_r_done_776 6 років тому +106

    I guessed right. Somehow #1 sounded more mature, as if the wood was older - maybe more complex? The second one sounded a bit brighter.

    • @howardman3926
      @howardman3926 5 років тому +4

      Likely had to do with the different strings

    • @-zephyressence-2018
      @-zephyressence-2018 5 років тому +2

      That's what I thought too!

    • @AllenFreemanMediaGuru
      @AllenFreemanMediaGuru 5 років тому +2

      Exactly. More sustain. A slightly richer fuller sound to #1.

    • @HyTricksyy
      @HyTricksyy 5 років тому +4

      If how silk feels on your skin can be translated into a sound, that's the sound the Strad makes. It's just... silky.

    • @somethingneeddoing021
      @somethingneeddoing021 4 роки тому +2

      @Kelly Fischer lmao preach

  • @mrfashizleboy9486
    @mrfashizleboy9486 2 роки тому +8

    I don’t play or know anything about the violin. Just kinda stumbled upon the topic. I liked violin 2 the most though

  • @MixYourWay
    @MixYourWay 5 років тому +7

    Listening on studio monitors here! After going through the examples for a while I could perceive that Violin 2 actually has a subtle amount of extra overtones+resonance and some kind of lively vibe to it! kinda hard to explain. Somehow, it does sound "bigger" but when compared carefully, Violin 1 sounds way more clean, solid, un-adulterated. At first I picked the 2nd though!

  • @vonrosenthal
    @vonrosenthal 6 років тому +20

    I knew it from the first notes, the number 1, and i confirm it with the wood details on the violin, the sound in both is really different, but you should use the same accesories and strings for both instruments for a real sound test, using different accesories and strings can give to the sound a broad difference to eachother :-) btw, GREAT PERFORMANCE! BRAVO!

  • @brayanarroyo3053
    @brayanarroyo3053 3 роки тому +4

    Me a violinist somehow thought #2 was the original like it’s impressive on how close they were I literally had to choose #2 because of the nicer bolder sound. I am amazed

  • @doctorphileo
    @doctorphileo 3 роки тому +6

    I definitely liked the 2nd violin more. It "sang" more beautifully and had warm lower tones. The first violin sounded a bit thin to me especially in the high register. I suspected the 1st violin was the strad even though I liked the 2nd better because I've found that many strads have that thinner higher register which many people (except me) prefer. Nice playing BTW.

  • @petestaint8312
    @petestaint8312 2 роки тому +2

    Brilliant playing! Both sound fantastic. Thanks for posting. 👍

  • @matrixate
    @matrixate 6 років тому +13

    2:30 I thought she was going to clumsily collide the two violins.

  • @donald7216
    @donald7216 5 років тому +4

    It’s crazy how subtle the sounds vary from each other. I have never heard a Stradivarius before so I didn’t make a guess but both sounded beautiful

  • @u235u235u235
    @u235u235u235 4 роки тому +6

    1 has a softer glowing sound, 2 is louder and brasher, imo.

  • @UmatsuObossa
    @UmatsuObossa 4 роки тому +3

    I thought the first sounded ever so slightly softer, but barely even noticeable. I think it's excellent that they can copy them so well so that such beautiful music can continue to be made for so hundreds and hundreds MORE years.

  • @edwardbaker1331
    @edwardbaker1331 7 місяців тому +3

    I only correctly guessed because of the darker wood tones. The quality copy sounds great. Would like to hear comparisons between a wide price range of violins.

  • @goodcyrus
    @goodcyrus 6 років тому +7

    #1 sounded much more intimate to me and my wife listening on a macbook. I was hoping the modern violin had surpassed the strad (which I think is possible) but I was wrong. Maybe "trying to make something better" is better than mere copying. The older wood makes a huge difference.

  • @TomPark1986
    @TomPark1986 5 років тому +1

    They both sound great. Kudos to you for the excellent playing.

  • @DABMANISAWESOME
    @DABMANISAWESOME 5 років тому +12

    Guessed it right! Strads have this smooth, silky sound, but at the same time, are able to hit hard when performing some fortissimo. I feel like that’s the reason that sets them apart and why no one can figure out how a sound can be so soft yet so filling.
    The copy violin sounded more crisp and sharp... which is what is expected in modern violins. People like this sound more than the Strad, but personally, I feel that it lacks that soft sound that is heard on the Strad. It’s as if the Strad is a perfect blend between modern and classical sounding violins... truly one of a kind!

    • @Fr00stee
      @Fr00stee 2 роки тому +1

      Idk to me the strad sounds kinda hard while the 2nd one is smoother(?) and more expressive

    • @cabooseabs6864
      @cabooseabs6864 2 роки тому

      I agree with @frostee that to me the second one sounded smoother and richer.

  • @Timzart7
    @Timzart7 6 років тому +40

    I thought the second one sounded fuller and better, but it could have had something to do with the mic position because I've never missed one of these guess-the-Strad videos before.

    • @michaelcaplin8969
      @michaelcaplin8969 3 роки тому

      But there are some REALLY shitty sounding Strads out there that are just not good enough for performing at a high level. There's one at the Ashmolean that just sounds ugh. But still, considering the legend of his name, and the age of the instruments and relatively few numbers of them, each and every one of them would have been considered for performing at a high level, even though the exact same violin wouldn't even have been considered for such use if it had been made by any modern luthier. He made some really nice sounding instruments, but this one was just an unusually thin and dead sounding violin. I would still want one, just for the age and history alone, but I would probably want a nicer sounding instrument for actual playing. But there is so much romanticising, belief in actual real life magic somehow, and worship on almost a religious level regarding these instruments, so it's rare that people manage to approach Stradivari's instruments in a rational way. I personally think the worship of Strad's and certain other maker's works as something special that cannot be matched today stems from the same reason people believe in a higher power and mythology.

    • @rlkinnard
      @rlkinnard 2 роки тому

      the best new violins are better than strads.

  • @ClassicalPiano
    @ClassicalPiano 6 років тому +6

    Whats the name if that piece she Is playing?

    • @ryancorbett8031
      @ryancorbett8031 6 років тому +2

      Classical Piano Franck Sonata

    • @petrof4056
      @petrof4056 6 років тому

      César Franck's Violin Sonata, end of 3rd movement

  • @paulitalian4357
    @paulitalian4357 5 років тому +4

    I guess It!! One thing i've always noticed in the sound of Stradivarius is that it's less strong compared to other High quality violins, it's like if Stradivarius doesn't dare (or doesn't care of daring) as much as other violins, but what they "lack" in strength, compensates with a peculiar and silver sound, they aren't sweet to make you sleep, instead they provoke in you a tipe of reaction, you like It or not. Ofcourse it's only my opinion.

  • @srir4cha
    @srir4cha 3 роки тому

    When you play all of them sounds perfect! Love from Turkey.. ❤️

  • @maypatrice
    @maypatrice 6 років тому +7

    I was right. I chose no. 1 as the stradivarius. My reason was, the sound came out so easily, more than no. 2. It also has more clarity than no. 2. Perhaps it because of the maturity of the wood. So, that's my humble opinion, since I'm majoring in piano, not violin 😄😄😄

    • @tchenku
      @tchenku 5 років тому

      I agree about the sound coming out more easily. But that's more of a visual thing. If I was blindfolded, I don't think that part would make no difference haha. I thought the copy had a more "hollow" sound on the G-string, and I preferred the Strad because of that.

  • @pinsk94
    @pinsk94 6 років тому +24

    I picked #1 for the strad. Listening through my studio monitors, I thought #1 sounded bigger, more harmonic content then #2 on each note. Also seemed she had to work more to get the volume form #2. Seems like #2 needs to be played more and open up. I was very impressed with Leonard's though. Both sounded great as does the soloist!

    • @siddharthsharma8940
      @siddharthsharma8940 5 років тому +4

      Bullshit

    • @whatisthis6590
      @whatisthis6590 5 років тому

      @@siddharthsharma8940 can you explain to me what is bullshit about this comment? (I find bullshit quite a harsh way of putting it either way but I would rly like to know)

    • @siddharthsharma8940
      @siddharthsharma8940 5 років тому +3

      @@whatisthis6590 UA-cam audio is highly compressed, and it's impossible to hear finer nuances of the audio from UA-cam, unlike what this guy is claiming.
      Complete bs.

    • @Fr00stee
      @Fr00stee 2 роки тому

      @@siddharthsharma8940 there definitely is a difference in the audio but both are really similar. But like you said in order to hear the "nuance" you need to listen to the violin in person. For youtube #2 is probably better.

  • @user-qv6ig8gm8g
    @user-qv6ig8gm8g 4 роки тому

    I guessed right. The difference is obvious even from the first note! Thanks that you made me have this experience!

  • @normanjin8897
    @normanjin8897 5 років тому +4

    I think #2 has a bit more dynamics, but it could be the play, yet #1 feels easier to hear.

  • @RaveYoda
    @RaveYoda 6 років тому +3

    #2 seemed ever so slightly less "shrill". It seemed smoother to me but there are a number of reasons why that could be the case. It could be UA-cam's compression on the audio. It could be slight variations when playing the part of the song. So it goes down the line.

  • @humanseekingtruth6080
    @humanseekingtruth6080 6 років тому +3

    Very good test, the copy sounds very close to the Stradivarius. I was going back and forth between the two, but thought number 2 might be the Stradivarius, so I was wrong.
    Again, I do not know why someone would not like this video. Very strange!

  • @mylabower5047
    @mylabower5047 5 років тому +2

    The Strad has such a smooth and gorgeous tone. Very close for me though. I’d die to play either!

  • @MatthewforesterFC
    @MatthewforesterFC 3 роки тому

    I guessed right. And your sound is so good that my eyeballs pop out of my head!!!

  • @gamemastertristan3951
    @gamemastertristan3951 6 років тому +3

    I guessed right. #1 seemed to be much more responsive throughout.

  • @bboygraff1
    @bboygraff1 4 роки тому +3

    1st Violin had much more color to the tone, whereas the 2nd violin had less color and more tin sound. Both are great sounding instruments, but the 1st one reigns supreme!

  • @Moon-magic109
    @Moon-magic109 4 роки тому +1

    Definitely number 2. It’s a bit livelier, sharper and more crispier than 1724 version. Thank you for playing, your are wonderful 🌺

  • @AyLproducciones
    @AyLproducciones 5 років тому

    I guessed ok. I feel that the instrument respond better in all of the nuances . All is perfect, is much warmer, but it is also brilliant when it is required. And for last, in the pianissimo notes the sound is much more clear than the other. I feel a very big diference and im happy to discover it!

  • @kroakie4
    @kroakie4 5 років тому +3

    Something about the Stradivarius sounds sweeter and more mellow to me.

  • @M1s7erH
    @M1s7erH 6 років тому +3

    There have been a few blind scientific tests that show the difference in sound is not obvious even to the most trained ears.
    However, although many people want this to mean that monetary value and/or prestige are not related to quality, I think it actually means something much more revolutionary:
    Taste, values and aesthetics do not exist independently of context.
    In choosing a violin for youtube recordings, the youtuber Lindsey Stirling probably wouldn't want one that sounds the best when played live in front of aficionados sitting in a concert hall. She would want one that gives the best sound after being recorded and then compressed by UA-cam's streaming technology. These two are probably not the same thing. Thus, different things are "best" for different contexts. And so it is with all aesthetics...

    • @johntechwriter
      @johntechwriter 5 років тому

      Majestic Anime Clips An important point. We are not listening to a violin, but to a recording of a violin. Not only that, but a poor-quality recording in an echo-y room with noisy piano accompaniment. Listen to a violin in a quiet room and you realize that even a dedicated recording studio with professional-level microphone loses close to half the instrument's nuance and tonality.

  • @wilka171
    @wilka171 3 роки тому

    I could not really tell between them except when you hit that low cord on the no. 2 it's voice was so rich it made my hair stand up, litterally.

  • @netcontact6968
    @netcontact6968 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this. I guessed no 1 as soon as you played no 2. So I'm very grateful to you as I thought I had no ear for violin tones - I play the piano!! I would like to say that you're the first violin player I've seen who is so one with the instrument, trusting it fully. A truly beautiful sight seeing you playing. PS Are you doing any concerts ?

  • @krisrhebergen
    @krisrhebergen 5 років тому +4

    Nailed it! The original was more balanced in tone where as the copy had several frequencies that really stood out powerfully. I guess give it a century and the copy will definitely mature.

  • @christophertsiliacos8958
    @christophertsiliacos8958 6 років тому +8

    By just listening to the audio, I too could not hear the difference between the two. But then I never paid more than $75 (US) for a new violin including the case, bow and a cake of rosin. The last violin I purchased cost me $39 (US) - and that one came with an extra set of steel core strings and an electric tuner along with the case, bow and a small cake of rosin. When I’m not playing my violins, they do make for nice decorative wall hangers. Both of my violins, by the way, were made in China. But I'm sure that didn't come as a revelation to anyone. 😉 🎻♫

    • @annaskulskaia273
      @annaskulskaia273 6 років тому +10

      Christopher Tsiliacos , wow, you'll be a great viola player!

    • @christophertsiliacos8958
      @christophertsiliacos8958 6 років тому +2

      Hi Black_Kitten, thanks for the nice comment. I'm sure the viola is a great instrument. I play many instruments (brass, strings, and woodwinds) but the viola is not one of them.
      I have only two requisites when it comes to playing musical instruments: I only play treble clef instruments, and I play them in only two octaves. That's why, for example, I play the violin and neither the viola nor the cello. And why I play the Bb trumpet (my first instrument) and flugelhorn, and neither the trombone nor the tuba. An even though the concert flute has a full three octave range, I only play it in the first two octaves.
      I have accolades for those musicians who play instruments in more than one clef, especially piano, organ and harp players who are required to play two lines of music - at the same time - the bass clef and treble clef. 😊 🎼 ♫ 🎸 🎺 🎻 🎷

    • @9foramusicalWorld
      @9foramusicalWorld 6 років тому

      Christopher Tsiliacos Cool! I only have a cheap Chinese violin ... Btw how is that she has a Stradivarius one????!!!

    • @ethanmartin2781
      @ethanmartin2781 6 років тому +1

      Christopher Tsiliacos The viola is a meme :P

    • @ModernBladesmith
      @ModernBladesmith 6 років тому +2

      when your insult backfires

  • @shuningli9248
    @shuningli9248 3 роки тому

    I made the right guess. Violin 2 sounds a little rougher. Thank you so much for sharing! What a treasure to play with the real stradivarius violin.

  • @cadenzachambermusic7065
    @cadenzachambermusic7065 5 років тому +1

    For some reason I got it right as my old music teacher had told me tales about old violins and how modern violin maker are great with their trade and technology ... but sadly I will go with #2, It has the quality I am looking for from a violin.
    Both are very good and would love to have them together on my arsenal. Also, an excellent performance.

  • @tonybowen455
    @tonybowen455 6 років тому +25

    I listened without video at first. I can't even tell you're changing them.

  • @DrTommyDDS
    @DrTommyDDS 6 років тому +5

    Violin 1 was much more FOCUSED and CLEAR, which is the trend in virtually all high-end violins. Tone isn't the issue. It's CLARITY. Clarity helps the PLAYER play in-tune and find the correct pitch when playing 9th position and higher. Higher quality violins help the PLAYER be a better player. It's not about the listener, it's about the player. The player can hear more subtle differences.
    Want violin 2 to sound clearer? Try changing out the tailpiece. More mass or stiffer. You have ebony on it now. Try pernambuco or snakewood. Your family has money, so try a pernambuco tailpiece by Les Bois d' Harmonie. It'll make your Florian sound clearer and prettier.

  • @danrome4
    @danrome4 5 років тому

    I guessed right, num 1. I went back and forth hearing them, and num 1 has a nice romantic sound if I could say it that way. The deeper tones looked effortlessly too. The num 2 sounds louder, like screaming. But obviously a beautiful violin as well. Both sounds are beautiful and you played very good. Nice test.

  • @apz8596
    @apz8596 4 роки тому

    I guessed right. Though I was confused till she started to play the lower notes. That's when the #1 showed it's quality. It sounded steady, no unwanted vibration, and it sounded crystal clear than #2.

  • @ohyesimcool2279
    @ohyesimcool2279 5 років тому +7

    Holy smokes! I liked no. 2 better

  • @josechrist3948
    @josechrist3948 6 років тому +24

    With your brilliant playing the cheepest chinese violin will sound like a Stradivari!

  • @orchestore22
    @orchestore22 5 років тому +1

    First of all, great playing! Awesome feel and tone. Secondly, I liked the first violin better although I suspected the second was the strad. The first one just had a tighter tonal focus. The second one didn't feel so laser focused, and was noticeably darker and raspier sounding to my ears.

  • @ajsorensen2585
    @ajsorensen2585 Рік тому +1

    I could tell the difference even on my tv speakers, been playing violin for 32 years and own a recording studio

  • @user-bv3ht3jz9l
    @user-bv3ht3jz9l 6 років тому +7

    You are soo talented violinist and I love your playing soo much

  • @mishacarter
    @mishacarter 5 років тому +3

    I would be sacred to touch it 😅

    • @joshschwab81
      @joshschwab81 5 років тому

      Thats what she said.. sorry lol cant help it

  • @ryand.5857
    @ryand.5857 4 роки тому

    My God, I actually felt that #2 had more resonance and had guessed it to be the real Strad. Wow. Brilliant luthier to make such a wonderful copy!

  • @felixhesse4096
    @felixhesse4096 4 роки тому

    very interesting
    thanks

  • @norax77
    @norax77 6 років тому +7

    I prefer violin nr 2. Sorry stradivarius

  • @adelinagarfield6654
    @adelinagarfield6654 5 років тому

    WOW! That was beautiful playing!
    I guessed wrong though, I thought Violin 2 was the Stradivarius and the first was copy. The second (to me) has a deeper and fuller sound

  • @user-do5hd7zb4x
    @user-do5hd7zb4x Місяць тому

    I thought violin# 2 was the real stradivarious! The high frequency was more delicate and the bottom floor was mellower. Thank you Esther! Very enlightening! I look forward to more tests of violins from you. Your playing is eloquent!❤

  • @JH-we7xf
    @JH-we7xf 2 роки тому

    I guessed right and enjoyed the warm tonal quality of #1 while #2 tonally sounded sharper. But its all about preference and there's no "wrong" answer.

  • @muhdzafri7551
    @muhdzafri7551 4 роки тому +2

    I like the sound if number 1 more and my guess was right.For me, it’s better than number 2 because number 1 sounds polished rather than the bursting sound that is coming out of the number 2.But I still quite enjoy the number 2.

  • @baddinosaur1548
    @baddinosaur1548 4 роки тому +1

    Esther could make any violin sound amazing so I pick Esther. Remember it's not the arrow it's the Indian. It's the players that make these violins sound so good.

  • @thermann9
    @thermann9 Місяць тому

    I cranked it up with high quality headphones and though they both sounded tremendous, I honestly thought #2 sounded slightly better. A little more clarity, resonance and warmth. Fantastic engineering on the homage model.

  • @buggytipton482
    @buggytipton482 5 років тому

    Yay! I guessed right! The second violin had a sort of, I don't know, rougher sound towards the ends of the notes. Rougher isn't exactly the right word for it, but they both sound very nice and I like both of them!

  • @danieltessier8036
    @danieltessier8036 5 років тому

    I guessed #1 right after the first example of both violins. It just sounded fuller especially on the low strings(G&D) Although I prefer the sound of a Guaneri ,a Strad is in a class of its own.I'm by no means an expert but there was something about#1 that stood out.But they both sound beautiful & you're playing is outstanding.

  • @macheeneraid230
    @macheeneraid230 2 роки тому +1

    that #2 is good. not a musician here but i love listening to classic.
    #2 switch from note to note perfectly while #1 is a bit rougher.
    it is like #2 turn corners gracefully while #1 turns edgely.

  • @wetwatermelon6384
    @wetwatermelon6384 2 роки тому +1

    i guessed that 1 was the strad as it sounded more even at the lower dynamics but honestly i prefer violin 2 overall, it had a much smoother and richer sound.

  • @sK7kiMSan7Ks
    @sK7kiMSan7Ks 5 років тому

    I guessed 1, and I was correct. All new violins tend to be very loud, but lack that richness and complexity that comes with old violins. The strad can only be described to be balanced, silky, clear, yet having that warmness while being strikingly direct, but the copy only sounded loud, clogged, yet very bright.
    The giveaway was the volume while on the lower strings. The newer violins tend to be ridiculously loud. I’m not sure if this is because of a “healthier” bass-bar, but the strad has this amazing complexity that can’t be described with words. The copy however, does not.
    It is also important to mention that violins are sensitive instruments. No exact copies, even if they are made of the same wood, by the same maker, in the same dimensions, in the same exact method, they will inevitably sound different. That’s just the way it is.

  • @discerningacumen
    @discerningacumen 5 років тому +1

    Exactly what I felt from violin # 1 was much better in sound. And then it was found to be real Stradivarius. It does not need to hear more than 10 seconds for me. It may thank to my experience in playing piano and preference of listening classical music.

  • @mrmonguerwtf2976
    @mrmonguerwtf2976 5 років тому +2

    You can actually hear the difference at 1:42 to 1:53 , (pp) for the same amount of force applied violin 1 holds it perfectly, the other one suffers. I think in real life experience you will notice the power of the Stradivarius well above the other violin the souls of the violin are also different, violin 1 (colorful and dramatic) violin 2 (thin and gentle). In addition she is changing the position so is more difficult
    That's my opinion

  • @void870
    @void870 3 роки тому

    I guessed #2, because it seemed to project a bit more in certain parts, but it may have just come down to your handling, and the technique required in certain parts of the arrangement. Either way I was pleasantly surprised. Another reason why I picked #2 is because it looked like it was more aged.

  • @jimdunleavypiano
    @jimdunleavypiano 5 років тому

    Both great sounding violins imo. I preferred the 2nd in the high phrases, but then when the lower stuff on the G and D strings came along I changed my mind. I'm sure hearing them live would reveal a lot more though. Having seen all the blind testing evidence, I'm not a believer in the supposed superiority of old instruments over new, however I thought new instruments took a while being played a lot to 'open up' fully, so I was surprised the new one is only 2 months old.

  • @afill471
    @afill471 3 роки тому

    I was actually looking at the appearance of the two violins and looking at the 2nd violin, it looks so much more fresh and polished compared to the strand, which the strand has a more vintage look than the new one, but the color and texture of the wood gave it away for me. They’re pretty hard to tell the difference if the two but I can say that the sound of the 2nd violin was brighter than the strand, which the strand’s tone is richer in the lower register. As far as the preference is concerned, it depends what you like to hear more of, the warmth of the resonant lows or the bright tones of the higher register. My preference would be the darker, richer resonant violin which is more comforting to my ear.

  • @sailaunghein4705
    @sailaunghein4705 4 роки тому

    No.2 sounds beautiful

  • @xiaotaozhou8662
    @xiaotaozhou8662 Рік тому +1

    It was quite easy for me, maybe because I am myself a violinist.
    The Strad has more warmth and profundity, and you can hear the history condensing into a magnificent sound, it reminds me of someone old and with an intriguing story to tell, while the copy sounded quite new and naive, which naturally lacks depth, but it is indeed more vigorous and we can perceive more vivacity, I can picture a young person filled with strength and felicity.
    I believe that the violinist was also able to express her emotions better with the Stradivarius.

    • @Prooblemm
      @Prooblemm Рік тому

      "you can hear the history condensing..." bullshit

    • @xiaotaozhou8662
      @xiaotaozhou8662 Рік тому

      @@Prooblemm I believe that you should read it completely: “and you can hear the history condensing into a magnificent sound,…” that means that time makes a violin sound better, that is a fact.

  • @dr.spectre9697
    @dr.spectre9697 5 років тому +2

    I actually guessed correctly. I have been playing the viola & the violin since I was 7 (Im 33) & though they sound very similar, there is a subtle & VERY hard to describe yet discernible difference between the two. The best (although corny) explanation I can come up with, is that the strad has a bit more "soul", depth, & warmth resonating from it, actually it sounds like the Strad is creating the sounds from WITHIN, while the copy is lacking that sense of "soul" & "warmth". I dunno....it may be hogwash to some, but to me it sounds like it has a soul & the copy does not (though it is still an amazing violin). It's subtle but to experienced musicians it CAN be (though not always) discerned. #2 was brighter, it sounded younger but #1 sounded like it was more mature, most understated & "wiser". It's like it had nothing to prove, it didn't sound technically perfect but from a humanist point of view, it was perfect indeed. It touched that part of our heart or soul or whatever you prefer to call it that we all share in common.

  • @geza1283
    @geza1283 3 роки тому

    With a half second only look I knew no.1 was the real one.. but thats only because I played them and know them well. Great video Esther. Keep up with your vids..Gezalius

    • @nGAhGENVH0Ul
      @nGAhGENVH0Ul 3 роки тому

      I've never held let alone played a violin, and I guessed it right within the first few seconds too!

  • @skyhop
    @skyhop 2 роки тому +1

    I haven't finished the video, but the difference was immediately noticeable to me, I preferred violin 2.
    1 is certainly smoother, but I'd wager no.2 will become smoother with age.

    • @samanthony8121
      @samanthony8121 2 роки тому

      Im suprised how many people preferred the copy. I disnt like it at all compared to the real deal.

    • @skyhop
      @skyhop 2 роки тому

      @@samanthony8121 Hearing is subjective. It could be entirely possible that people with minor hearing damage could prefer 2. Guitar amps did my ears in years ago.

  • @Andre-gh8bx
    @Andre-gh8bx 5 років тому

    Hi Esther, the first one is warmer and purer as taste of old wine and the second is brighter so I choose the first is real, and it's just as what I guess.

  • @modernwarriorsystems7347
    @modernwarriorsystems7347 3 роки тому

    I picked Violin 1. It was mainly on the higher notes that I could hear the difference. The higher notes just had a clarity and richness to them and structure that number 2 didn't quite have. In my opinion.

  • @emrahbillur
    @emrahbillur 2 роки тому

    I guessed wrong.
    I've once watched a Stradivarius violin player TED talk where he noted that at first he could not get the most out of the Stradivarius as he was not used to, then he understood the instrument well and performed better. This is simply the case here. This great violin player Esther Abrami must probably got used to playing the 'exact' copy more than a real stradivarius. So she could sound better with that violin..
    One other point that I noticed was the introductory parts are played with violin 1 where the conclusion and the higher parts of music is played by violin 2. I wish she could play with the reverse order. Since the music is more powerful in the parts played with violin 2 I was also mistaken with my choice.
    Thanks for this nice comparison.

  • @manufrancismathew7657
    @manufrancismathew7657 2 роки тому

    Thank you very much for sharing this. Also curious to know which was easier to play; the one which is easier to play may be better from ergonomics and musculoskeletal perspectives, so I feel. But I guess the copy also had the dimensions, etc. So even that may be hard to know.

  • @gitFZHUT
    @gitFZHUT 4 роки тому

    I knew it. The first violin's sound is deep, clear and warm. Nowadays it's better when violin sounds brightly. I love the first sound.

  • @SharkyLunasaurus
    @SharkyLunasaurus 4 роки тому

    At first I thought it was number two but changed my mind towards the end when I heard that really high note. The replica has a more mellow sound to it than the original. They both sound wonderful, but the actual strad sounded like the tone was slightly higher pitched.

  • @tsifty1
    @tsifty1 4 місяці тому

    Same sound. Thanks

  • @jackmundo4043
    @jackmundo4043 15 днів тому

    I got it right with conviction after the first few notes. I feel so smart.

  • @youngstownkicks
    @youngstownkicks 5 років тому +2

    First one has to be, the aged wood sound is much different that the sharp rich tone of the second one. Nonetheless very nice work on both.

  • @Midlanflyguy
    @Midlanflyguy 2 роки тому +1

    I know diddly-squat about violins but my nerves were in panic mode watching her at the end dangerously coming close to bumping those violins into each other 🤣