Lortie: 00:00 - Mvt 1 07:37 - Mvt 2 11:17 - Mvt 3 Jando: 14:46 - Mvt 1 20:26 - Mvt 2 24:36 - Mvt 3 Lortie is as he usually is: lyrical, attentive to all sorts of color and detail, with some really fantastic dynamic tiering and voicing (see 13:10 and the way he adds a swell to the middle of the phrase at 11:55), and a lovely way of shaping long phrases (especially in the first two movements). Jando is slower (especially in the last movement), drier, but his contrasts are more granitic and biting, his staccati more sharply chiseled (the last movement has a pointillistic feel at parts). There’s some great voicing in his playing too: see 24:10 for one example.
I have to agree with you--this sonata deserves 'WAY more attention than it gets. I think it's a great example of Beethoven's humor. In the first movement , as you say, he has a string of very charming themes, yet when he gets to the development, he just keeps obsessing over that little three-note cadence thing at the end of the exposition. And then he does one of his famous key-switch tricks, recapitulating in the wrong key, then scrambling to get back into the right key. The second movement is as close to a slow movement as a scherzo is ever going to get. And the last movement is just plain old bumptious fun! This is one of my favorite Beethoven sonatas, and i've studied a lot of them.
The beginning melody of the menuet fills me with such longing, it is so elegant. It is like he is trying to reach to some happy place in the high notes but keeps getting pulled to earth.
I regret not finding this channel earlier. I am a visual learner and I can’t describe how helpful it has been to have the audio, visual sheet music, amazing program notes, AND multiple versions of each song I’ve listened to on here. It has helped me to appreciate so many previously unknown songs and pick new songs to learn.
I learned some of the Beethoven sonatas, but I could hear right away I skipped this one. 1) I can also see right away that the shifting pace of the continuo (non-melody) parts (whether in the left-hand or right) - going from eights, to triplets, to sixteenths, to triplet sixteenths, and finally thirty-second notes - has to be an immense pain in the, um, wrist. 2) Yikes - the 3rd movement is just furious! IMO worse than #16's 3rd movement.
yeah, but it sounds more of a dramatic piece, Bach and Scarlatti composed more of a sort of simple feeling as the third movemet made more of a powerful feeling in the piece
Ashish Kumar thanks for pointing out the unusual key changes here and in other sonatas. Sometimes they are abrupt and shocking other times a simple tonic to dominant or the reverse is done artfully going through an interesting path. This increases the listener's appreciation of structure and form. Surprises are always notewothy. Starting the recap in D with a change in key signature surely is unusual..
Although going from D back to F takes us to an unrelated key, It can bee explained by modal exchange. D A7 gm C7 F, I. V7 iv/ii V7 I. the iv chord is a modal change since it is a minor iv
I love this guy's channel. He's one of those UA-camrs I always watch but never pay attention to the name and a makeshift one forms in my mind and when I finally read it I'm blown away. Another example, Marioverehrer or Kurzgesagt - In a Nutshell
What is surprising is that this keen Classical music lover is a very young man. He is a Singaporean with a law degree from Cambridge U. working in Singapore. He looks to be a mix of Chinese/Indian but speaks perfect English.
Very good! Excellent scores and great choice of recording. The clarity and finger control on the Lortie's recording is something you don't see every day!
It doesn't slip into E major at the restatement of the opening theme, rather that's a half cadence implying A minor; you can confirm that by the usage of the G+6 chord at that cadence.
What a stunningly beautiful Beethoven Sonata... it captures ones interest from start to finish! 🙌 The opening subject material of the first movement is simply gorgeous, and developed extremely well, the second movement has some interesting harmonic features, and the last movement is just a lot of fun!
Mostly pretty easy, as Beethoven goes. The scales in the recapitulation will take some practice to get up to tempo. Otherr than that it's not bad.@@timward276
@@timward276 It's not hard, as Beethoven goes. The scales in the recapitulation will take a little practice to get up to tempo, but other than that it's not bad.
My favorite First Period Sonata. The ultra-compact development, the false-false recapitulation (!), the total absence of a slow movement, the mad Finale that begins making fun of the too short fugal episodes in (bad) symphonic writing, like Mozart's Musical Joke. I see this work as the ironic icing that B. puts on the cake of the traditional Sonata form before opening a whole new chapter here, beginning directly with Sonatas 7 and 8.
I seem to agree with you in every way. I am curious if you could explain what you mean by "(bad) symphonic writing"? I am aware of the sarcasm, obviously, but fear I am missing some reference.
Just noticed something. At the very beginning of the development in D minor, measure 68 of the first movement, in the left hand: Eighth note, eight rest, eighth note, ...QUARTER rest? 2:30
One thing I have noted....people tend to denigrate piano works that are about music, not showing off your technical skills. Of course, it helps if ALL the repeats are taken.
Dina? 1415926535897932 I strongly urge you to listen to Wim Winter’s version of this just posted on his channel, AuthenticSound. You will gain an entirely new perspective, not only on this sonata, but on music of the past. Check it out!
@@kaybrown4010 winter is a fraud and his videos are poorly researched if you look into it. Beethoven meant for his sonatas to played quickly and for pianists to specifically use his own metronome markings on a quarter, not on an 8th.
Jando playa this sonata at more or less my MAX tempo when I was in high school. His tempo of the third movement was my ABSOLUTE MAX on a good day. Otherwise I was maybe a little slower. My fingers just didn’t (still don’t) move that quickly.
It is said that Mozart was inspired by the melody; Beethoven overcame this in many ways among them what sounds here; the rhythm of texture, the play with the pauses in the right hand, the setback; and in the meantime a less apparent, harmonic melody is woven.
I think this is one of Beethoven's "Composers against their own stareotype" piece. I sounds so uplifting and happy for like, no reason but it is still so fun.
Это легкая, воздушная соната. Она написана Бетховеном когда он был ещё молодым. Это мимолетный отдых от 5 сонаты. Это одна из его самых лучших сонат!!!
It seems Lortie can't keep his tempo during the third movement - he was already pushing 170 bmp which is right on the limit of presto (what B wrote). Jando nails the tempo beautifully.
Here we call these things absolute symphonies and masterpieces when it's really nothing but the soundtrack of a visual image. Because we are told they are masterpieces. I'm tired of overriding antiquity as being better than what we are capable of now.
I remember Horzowski play this sonata and i could have left the concert completely satisfied with the concert had he only played the 2nd movement. Never did I hear such a beautiful.
As an amateur who would not dare to presume myself upon any real audience, I've nevertheless had enormous pleasure tinkering with this rewarding sonata without trying the patience of family members toooo far.
If I played it at that tempo the third movement starting at measure 85 it would be a train wreck. My forearms would lock up from tension and the whole thing would grind to a painful halt.
Dang she must have recognized you as the one. My “”wife to be” turned me down the first three ask outs and when I finally succeeded all I got was Partita 6 and not even on a piano.
Almost everyone plays that 3rd movement a hair too fast imo. Missing out on distinctly shaping each phrase and emphasizing dynamic contrasts. Check out Karmen Grubisic interpretation of 3rd movement, best one on UA-cam imo.
Much of Bavouzet's recordings unavailable for complete listening even in paid music streaming services. Would not be surprised if right holders asked for removal.
Call me crazy, and I know I'm showing my age, but does the bit from 12:27 - 12:32 sound like a Supertramp song from the 1970's or is it just me...you'll be quite forgiven if you don't know what the hell I'm talking about.
How is the third movement in sonata form? I would hardly call those four or five bars a second subject, and I'm having a hard time calling bar 86 a recapitulation. I think this movement is better classified as being in binary form.
Lortie:
00:00 - Mvt 1
07:37 - Mvt 2
11:17 - Mvt 3
Jando:
14:46 - Mvt 1
20:26 - Mvt 2
24:36 - Mvt 3
Lortie is as he usually is: lyrical, attentive to all sorts of color and detail, with some really fantastic dynamic tiering and voicing (see 13:10 and the way he adds a swell to the middle of the phrase at 11:55), and a lovely way of shaping long phrases (especially in the first two movements). Jando is slower (especially in the last movement), drier, but his contrasts are more granitic and biting, his staccati more sharply chiseled (the last movement has a pointillistic feel at parts). There’s some great voicing in his playing too: see 24:10 for one example.
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Thanks Ashish.
Отлично, только темп как всегда бешеный, из-за чего проглатываются ноты.
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I have to agree with you--this sonata deserves 'WAY more attention than it gets. I think it's a great example of Beethoven's humor. In the first movement , as you say, he has a string of very charming themes, yet when he gets to the development, he just keeps obsessing over that little three-note cadence thing at the end of the exposition. And then he does one of his famous key-switch tricks, recapitulating in the wrong key, then scrambling to get back into the right key. The second movement is as close to a slow movement as a scherzo is ever going to get. And the last movement is just plain old bumptious fun! This is one of my favorite Beethoven sonatas, and i've studied a lot of them.
The beginning melody of the menuet fills me with such longing, it is so elegant. It is like he is trying to reach to some happy place in the high notes but keeps getting pulled to earth.
I regret not finding this channel earlier. I am a visual learner and I can’t describe how helpful it has been to have the audio, visual sheet music, amazing program notes, AND multiple versions of each song I’ve listened to on here. It has helped me to appreciate so many previously unknown songs and pick new songs to learn.
I have known this sonata for twenty years... It's the first time I found the second movement so romantic, so soft and profund.
I learned some of the Beethoven sonatas, but I could hear right away I skipped this one.
1) I can also see right away that the shifting pace of the continuo (non-melody) parts (whether in the left-hand or right) - going from eights, to triplets, to sixteenths, to triplet sixteenths, and finally thirty-second notes - has to be an immense pain in the, um, wrist.
2) Yikes - the 3rd movement is just furious! IMO worse than #16's 3rd movement.
F minor 7:45 7:46 7:46 7:46 7:47 7:47 7:47 7:47 7:47 7:48 7:48 7:48 7:49 7:50
I doubt it.
Holy... it's so easy to get hooked onto the last movment
Andrej Dedik Hits like crack cocaine, via the eardrum...
ca va fréro?
what an underrated masterpiece
I love this piece. Very fresh and full of humour.
Некрасиво звучит сфорцандо в левой руке на 9-й минуте,9:40
It's not underrated
@@qwertyfox3168 No , just play the left hand softer than the right hand
This is one of Beethoven's worst sonatas. Nothing underrated about it and it's not a masterpiece.
I just love the third movement. It’s almost like a Scarlatti sonata or a Bach invention on overdrive.
If you listen carefully, its actually quite different from what Scarlatti or Bach would compose. Listen to the finer details.
yeah, but it sounds more of a dramatic piece, Bach and Scarlatti composed more of a sort of simple feeling as the third movemet made more of a powerful feeling in the piece
How weird. I love the first two, but find the last one boring. What am I missing?
I've always seen the third movement as Beethoven's equivalent to the third movement in Haydn's B minor sonata.
@@davidunger3199 I am not too familiar with Haydn’s piano works so thank you for the reference. I definitely see what you mean.
Ashish Kumar thanks for pointing out the unusual key changes here and in other sonatas. Sometimes they are abrupt and shocking other times a simple tonic to dominant or the reverse is done artfully going through an interesting path. This increases the listener's appreciation of structure and form. Surprises are always notewothy. Starting the recap in D with a change in key signature surely is unusual..
Although going from D back to F takes us to an unrelated key, It can bee explained by modal exchange. D A7 gm C7 F,
I. V7 iv/ii V7 I. the iv chord is a modal change since it is a minor iv
This was one of my pieces for my high school senior recital.
I love this guy's channel. He's one of those UA-camrs I always watch but never pay attention to the name and a makeshift one forms in my mind and when I finally read it I'm blown away.
Another example,
Marioverehrer or Kurzgesagt - In a Nutshell
Truer words haven't been spoken
What is surprising is that this keen Classical music lover is a very young man. He is a Singaporean with a law degree from Cambridge U. working in Singapore. He looks to be a mix of Chinese/Indian but speaks perfect English.
I appreciate this man too here on UA-cam......thanks for all your effort dude
Loving playing this, the first movement is especially physically satisfying to play.
So sorry, cant help it, cuz so is yo mama
@@cameronshapiro700 You are a goat... that being said, the first sonata is satisfying to play for sure
My daughter is studying mov 2 and 3 for RCM. I discovered the Presto because of her. I play it at half speed to understand it. Beautiful.
Very good! Excellent scores and great choice of recording. The clarity and finger control on the Lortie's recording is something you don't see every day!
This is such a silly piece. There’s so much random stuff that just appears out of the blue, but still sounds really good. I like it a lot.
This Sonata is so good but people underestimate it🙁
My friend played this and it’s so beautiful, I especially love the second movement ❤️
i can't get this out of my head, i love this piece so much (don't understand much in music, but i find it amazing)
Third movement is a spectacular piece: bright, joyfull. I absolutely love it; the themes, the continous rhytm
It doesn't slip into E major at the restatement of the opening theme, rather that's a half cadence implying A minor; you can confirm that by the usage of the G+6 chord at that cadence.
This gives so much nostalgia
A lot of strong rain and wind, very cool temperature, tajadas frying, then going outside to play in the rain, one of the best days
Woah! So true:)
What a stunningly beautiful Beethoven Sonata... it captures ones interest from start to finish! 🙌 The opening subject material of the first movement is simply gorgeous, and developed extremely well, the second movement has some interesting harmonic features, and the last movement is just a lot of fun!
man, I have to learn this one sometime. That finale just sounds fun as hell to play.
It is! I've played it, and it is fun. That third movement especially is a blast!
@@Papa-T-51 How difficult is that 3rd movement? 10/2 is usually listed as one of the easier Beethoven sonatas, so I assume it's not *too* bad.
Mostly pretty easy, as Beethoven goes. The scales in the recapitulation will take some practice to get up to tempo. Otherr than that it's not bad.@@timward276
@@timward276 It's not hard, as Beethoven goes. The scales in the recapitulation will take a little practice to get up to tempo, but other than that it's not bad.
The not-resolved-as-expected appoggiatura at 10:13 is amazing!
Beautiful, wish me luck at playing this
You can do it!!!
I'm so grateful that I can listen to this recordings. I also play this but it is more enjoyable for me to listen to this performances.🌷❤
My favorite First Period Sonata. The ultra-compact development, the false-false recapitulation (!), the total absence of a slow movement, the mad Finale that begins making fun of the too short fugal episodes in (bad) symphonic writing, like Mozart's Musical Joke. I see this work as the ironic icing that B. puts on the cake of the traditional Sonata form before opening a whole new chapter here, beginning directly with Sonatas 7 and 8.
I seem to agree with you in every way. I am curious if you could explain what you mean by "(bad) symphonic writing"? I am aware of the sarcasm, obviously, but fear I am missing some reference.
Are slow movements of Beethoven's not widely liked?
Just noticed something. At the very beginning of the development in D minor, measure 68 of the first movement, in the left hand: Eighth note, eight rest, eighth note, ...QUARTER rest? 2:30
Yes, must be a mistake, you hae good eyes haha. Are you playing this piece?
Typo.
"Any reasonably objective look will show that it really is one of his best". Completely agree!
One thing I have noted....people tend to denigrate piano works that are about music, not showing off your technical skills. Of course, it helps if ALL the repeats are taken.
My wife played this when we first met.
How sweet
flippert0
How sweet~^^
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Lucky man
Поздравляю 😂👍
Ok no one asked.
Magnificent,Breathtaking even.
Yes,true
The last movement: when you think beethoven is done but he is bach
Now liszten here
@@attitudes745 I can't Handel these puns
@@dfkfgjfg wanna play Haydn seek instead?
Digital Dolby I wish I could but I have to go Chopin
Schuberter stop that
9:06 this is the most Schubertian Chord I've ever heard from Beethoven
D. 960 moment
@@cadenzalien4554 also reminds me of D 780 No. 6
Now that I hear it playing professionally, I feel so terrible at piano.
Не плачь, не у всех есть здоровье играть в бешеном темпе.
Well, when you do something for a living you do get pretty good at it
Dina? 1415926535897932 I strongly urge you to listen to Wim Winter’s version of this just posted on his channel, AuthenticSound. You will gain an entirely new perspective, not only on this sonata, but on music of the past. Check it out!
Kay Brown ok boomer
@@kaybrown4010 winter is a fraud and his videos are poorly researched if you look into it. Beethoven meant for his sonatas to played quickly and for pianists to specifically use his own metronome markings on a quarter, not on an 8th.
I'm playing this masterpiece for my piano diploma exam
I may be too. Not decided
Haha me for my exam
How did it goes for you ?
Same here, I have a year to prepare for it 😅 How did it go for you?
How it go
Easy for diploma
Love the gigue-like opening to the third movement. Very reminiscent of monsieur bach :)
Hidden masterpiece
......can make everyone excited
Love that presto so much.
I love this sonata so much
Apetecan7 me too 🤗beethoven makes me laugh for some reason lol
This has become one of my absolute favorites among all his other wonderful sonatas.
Me too! I'm so obsessed with it :)
The three movements are so nice
Specially the second one
Jando playa this sonata at more or less my MAX tempo when I was in high school. His tempo of the third movement was my ABSOLUTE MAX on a good day. Otherwise I was maybe a little slower. My fingers just didn’t (still don’t) move that quickly.
It is said that Mozart was inspired by the melody; Beethoven overcame this in many ways among them what sounds here; the rhythm of texture, the play with the pauses in the right hand, the setback; and in the meantime a less apparent, harmonic melody is woven.
Wasn't mozart already dead when Beethoven composed that piece?
@@Bruce.-Wayne yes, marcos was referring to melody in the abstract not any specific melody. the "the" before melody makes it confusing
0.25x speed: how i be playing this
2x speed: my professor explaining to me how this song will only take a while
The third movement is so brilliant. Its so joyous. It reminds me of G&S patter song.
One of the rare times Beethoven lets his freak flag fly. Great humor, not unlike the Lost Penny bagatelle.
Masterpiece of "Beetho"
Thank you for posting this!
IMO Beethoven's early sonatas were his best. youthful joy always trumps senior angst.
No
My personal favourite is Op.109, but I’m choosing between this and Op.14 in G major since this will be my first Beethoven sonata…..
@@GUILLOMYes, kid.
@@ultimateconstruction calm down lol
@@GUILLOM You know nothing about music. Go play with your toys.
Great performance
I’m playing this piece for the admission examination at my university in two days, I hope everything works out
I think this is one of Beethoven's "Composers against their own stareotype" piece. I sounds so uplifting and happy for like, no reason but it is still so fun.
Same for his Sonata No. 24 in F# Major. The first movement is very beautiful and lovely, and the second movement is very playful and energetic.
11:32-11:38 sounds a bit like Waldstein.
Rubix 79 Agreed
Oh really!
not at all
agreed
Waldstein in his second emotion phase wich was a bit more explosiv and powerfull
Это легкая, воздушная соната. Она написана Бетховеном когда он был ещё молодым. Это мимолетный отдых от 5 сонаты. Это одна из его самых лучших сонат!!!
Ivan Tkachev Я не согласен. Поздние сонаты более интересные. Это слишком ванильная как по мне
WOW, This Is BRILLIANT !!!
Likely Beethoven's "prettiest" early sonata. One of my favourites, "unimportance" be damned.
LukeZX4 I can't agree with you MORE re: "'unimportance' be damned."
#4 is the best early one!
Bookmarks to Practice:
Page 1:
00:00
00:05
00:10
00:22
00:32 - triplets
00:42
Page 2:
00:46
00:53
01:14 - end
Page 3:
2:29 / 17:33
2:36 / 17:39
17:44
man to me the highlight of this piece is the second movement
beautiful‼️
Second movement sounds suspiciously like the Scherzo from his 5th Symphony!
samdajellybeenie In terms of the way it sort of swells, like the brief introduction on the 5th's scherzo?
That's called recycling themes
12:30 is sooo beatiful
Thank you so much for posting these videos, and I really enjoy reading your descriptions!
The three Op 10 sonatas are gems. But hey, I am biased; give me any three Beethoven piano sonatas in any combination at any time of the day!
Amen to that!!!!(and even more so if you play them well)
would love to hear that ending played with full orchestra
This is superb!
Thank You GOD, for Making Sir Beethoven !! I Hear Your Divine Sparks...OH !!!!
Happy birthday Beethoven!
I really enjoy playing this one, glad you appreciate it as well.
0:46
2:28
3:00
3:48
4:36
It seems Lortie can't keep his tempo during the third movement - he was already pushing 170 bmp which is right on the limit of presto (what B wrote). Jando nails the tempo beautifully.
Here we call these things absolute symphonies and masterpieces when it's really nothing but the soundtrack of a visual image. Because we are told they are masterpieces. I'm tired of overriding antiquity as being better than what we are capable of now.
🤫 You’re not that deep
I remember Horzowski play this sonata and i could have left the concert completely satisfied with the concert had he only played the 2nd movement. Never did I hear such a beautiful.
TJFNYC212 , you mean Horowitz?
@@g.s.3305 It's another pianist
第3楽章の見事な対位法！！
That first movement is so playful but also very aggressive sounding.
That's the piano timbre and the way of playing.
As an amateur who would not dare to presume myself upon any real audience, I've nevertheless had enormous pleasure tinkering with this rewarding sonata without trying the patience of family members toooo far.
there are two periods in music history: before beethoven, and after!!
If I played it at that tempo the third movement starting at measure 85 it would be a train wreck. My forearms would lock up from tension and the whole thing would grind to a painful halt.
Thank you very much!!!
It's a very interesting project! It would be nice to prepare like that Mozart's sonatas
Ohh. Beautiful but difficult. I'm play it^^
0:13 is anyone else hearing the a motiv from the last movement of Sonata No 4.?
Yes kinda but only for les than a second
@@miguelisaurusbruh1158 Yes, but it's a clear allusion
3:26; 5:58 prove No. 5003 that Bernstein talked nonsense about the melodist Beethoven 10:38
I'm only 12 and I will play this piece in 2022
weird flex but ok
*cough cough*
La contrahistoria. Un programa presentado y dirigido por Fernando Díaz Villanueva.
8:55-9:12 💚🧡
La Contra Historiaaaaaa
Dang she must have recognized you as the one. My “”wife to be” turned me down the first three ask outs and when I finally succeeded all I got was Partita 6 and not even on a piano.
12:37 . Reminds me of the development of the 7th sonata first movement
La contrahistoria: un programa dirigido y presentado por Fernando dias Villanueva
Am I the only one who thinks that the beginning of the 3rd Mvt. sounds like it would be written by J.S. Bach?
New to piano, what would that pattern at 2:40 to 3:00 be called? It’s so beautiful
I guess there are just triplets, split into both hands, one hand is playing one note while the right hand is playing octaves
0:47 Chopin rondo op 1
Where? I don’t understand..
(11.17) FASTEST F-FUGUE FOREVER!
op 10 is my favorite!
Almost everyone plays that 3rd movement a hair too fast imo. Missing out on distinctly shaping each phrase and emphasizing dynamic contrasts. Check out Karmen Grubisic interpretation of 3rd movement, best one on UA-cam imo.
Any reason why a few of your Beethoven sonata uploads have disappeared (seemingly only those featuring Bavouzet)?
Much of Bavouzet's recordings unavailable for complete listening even in paid music streaming services. Would not be surprised if right holders asked for removal.
24:37 24:37
24:37 24:37
24:37 24:37
Can someone tell me why i got a mid-roll ad?
Directness of jando.
Call me crazy, and I know I'm showing my age, but does the bit from 12:27 - 12:32 sound like a Supertramp song from the 1970's or is it just me...you'll be quite forgiven if you don't know what the hell I'm talking about.
How is the third movement in sonata form? I would hardly call those four or five bars a second subject, and I'm having a hard time calling bar 86 a recapitulation. I think this movement is better classified as being in binary form.