Foaling Around
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Leading the mare forward and asking the foal to follow with the person leading the foal with feel; Ray Hunt would have called that "having your idea become the horses idea".
Love these videos. Great job.
I know that foal! Cypress and Ella are so cute! It's fun watching him out in the field with the other horses.
He is. 👍
Thank you for advocating for proper weaning! I have a 23 year old gelding who is so herd bound and I really struggle to help him. He has been suffering from this his whole life. Breaks my heart!
Watching again. Mama and baby are so cute and sweet.
I always learn A TON of such useful information from Ryan's videos! I love how you are so thorough in always setting up the environment for success. Dr Susan Friedman of Utah University always says, "Behaviour is in the environment"...i.e. not *in* the animal. You seem to exhibit this all the time - carefully managing the environment so horsey achieves the "right" answer. Thank you for so generously sharing your knowledge!
I always learn so much from your kind and consistent videos. If I had horses anymore I would be on your Patreon page. But thank you for the relaxing end to all of your videos
This video was posted at the perfect time! I've got a little four month old colt that I need to start halter breaking and I don't have a great deal of experience in this endeavor. However, I do have lots of patience and watching you take your time and care in handling this foal, gives me a great base from which to work, Mr. Rose. Thank you for posting!
Good deal, thanks
Omg what a cute “little” colt😊💛
The mares and foals were together. At weaning the mares went into stalls. The foals all out together. Momma would let the kids nurse when she was uncomfortable. So she dried up slow. From there momma was ready to go back out. And foals had buddies. Low stress. Low trauma.
Gorgeous mare and foal!
I love their tawny color. Beautiful.
@@coffeegirl6854 yes the foal looks golden almost 🥰
So amazingly pretty!
Thank you so much! My filly is 4 months old and other foal training videos are when they are much younger so this really helped!
Your methods remind me a lot of the Spanish riding school. Their foals get lots of attention and handling when young but no real training. They don't experience a saddle until they are 4 years old. Learning through play. Because these horses are not being bred for sale, they don't rush them. Horses being horses in the mountains!
The Spanish Riding School isn't perfect, but that's quite a contrast to the abuse Big Lick horses endure! At BL they're already being ridden in shows by big fat old guys (and women), who don't know how to ride, at 2 years old! Which is why, when combined with all the other abuse at Big Lick, by 4 years old they've been so badly damaged that they are wrecks. They're very lucky if they can be used as trail ride horses after all that!
Big Lick is equally cruel to racing and rodeo, which both have moments when they are horrendous!
Horses bones are soft up until 4 yrs old. It's ok to start "breaking them" or "starting them" under saddle at 3, but that doesn't mean riding them! Especially if you personally are at the high end of the guideline for your weight vs the horses weight! This is NOT the time to do your denial thing. You must be honest with your horse? If not, he/she will know.
The guideline is that you and all of your tack, and other equipment, like saddle, bridle, safety gear, cameras, etc, must weigh NO MORE THAN 20% of the horses weight. Ever. No matter their age. This is for a fit and healthy horse. You can Google for the different ways of gauging your horse's weight.
It means working your way up to it slowly, by getting them accustomed to first a blanket, then a lightweight saddle, like a racing or English saddle. For just a minute at first, then for longer periods of time. Then to a loose girth (or cinch) and gradually a tighter one. Then to having stirrups flopping around, and all kinds of other things flopping and making distraction and noise, like pails with small rocks and tarps flapping in the wind.
They need desensitizing to all of that and more, everything you can possibly think of, on the ground, on their back, and elsewhere! Basically a similar process applies to the bridle and bit too. Then you can start increasing the weight on top of the saddle. Do all these things indoors, outdoors, and especially on the trails, in as many different environments as you can, regularly, but just for short periods of time. With horses, the rule of thumb is to do things breifly, but often. Always end on a positive note, after a succesful training session.
Read as much as you can possibly get your hands on about "Pressure And Release Training." Do NOT rely solely on videos. Especially not random ones from all over UA-cam!
All along you will have been lunging them in the round pen, training and desensitizing them, and teaching many important skills. All of that can easily fill the year from 3-4 yrs old. When that's all done and your horse is COMPLETELY comfortable with it all (which includes a great many things that I have not mentioned here, due to lack of time and space) only then do you start doing fake mounts, very gradually, from a mounting block. First just lift one leg over. Next time keep it there for a while. Eventually you lie across the saddle, ready to drop off if something scares them, like a bird.
When you do finally actually sit on top, you DON'T FLOP ON to their back, you lightly let your weight down, and you don't stay long.
Lots of love, trust, and praise through out all training and everything we do with them are so important! Trust is 100% essential, so their natural fear is minimized. Slowly you increase the time you ride for, but you never stop lunging and training them. By the time you are riding them for 1/2 hr, and later for an hour, they will be 4 years old. Their body will be strong enough, and both body and mind will both be ready. Then you can start the next adventures in training and desensitization!
Loved this. Always enjoy seeing the penny drop with catching on to the puzzle.
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Fun to watch! Cute horses 😊
Thank you! What a great video 👏 Little Man had a big day and won first prize 🤠 I agree it would be great to keep seeing his progress x
Thanks
I like how I almost never see you holding loops of rope in your hand. I have seen some destroyed hands when a horse blew up and those loops closed down on the handler's hand and crushed it. Working with horses requires a LOT of thought about the details. I like how you expalin what you are doing from the horse's perspective.
You're NOT KIDDING! 😉 ✌🏼
I have always been told to refrain from holding loops because if the horse decides to do something that's out of my control I won't be able to let go of the rope
I constantly see horse folks holding loops. It makes me cringe!
Ha Ha Ha and CANTER, I love it! Beautiful work everyone!
😀 thanks
I always halter break mine in a stall. I pull them in tight circles so they don’t want to brace and go backwards. I walk into the hip. Two lessons, yield hindquarters and follow their nose. Usually just a couple sessions a few minutes long. I gradually make bigger circles, move into a bigger area, and in a few days, they will follow me everywhere. I always cluck (means go forward) and say ‘come on’. I want them to hear that phrase and think they need to follow me. Seems to work.
They are so pretty.
Thank you Ryan
You bet
Such beauties!
Ill admit it i bought a arab colt.. knew the bare basics of horses I was an excellent rider but as far as taking care of them didn’t know to much... however I bought the colt who was with his mother, now thinking back I’m not sure if he was even weaned.. and honestly didn’t think to ask.. since I’m in San Diego I boarded him for 3 years no pasture, just pipe corral, were available.....I did train him myself and he was amazing.. but when I finally found a place with pasture he got so stressed, because he was not use to other horses, and we had to move him to a smaller pasture with another gelding those 2 did great together, but he did not do well in a herd.. if I put him in a corral with other horses he’d run the fence .. screaming for me to come and get him.. it was heart breaking, I had spoiled him so much, he didn’t understand other horses or how to be a horse.. He was my best friend but he knew he was spoiled.. if I whistled our special whistle he’d come running to me.. with out even getting a reward.. If someone else tried to whistle he’d look at them like, nope you are not my mom.. under saddle he was great with me, but I was really the only one who ride except a few of my nieces with me right there watching in a small corral...he was an arab so a few spooks here and there.. but amazing.. it breaks my heart now, knowing all the things I did wrong and how I ruined his opportunity to be a horse..... and have friends in the herd... instead I made him a pet.... and he just got picked on.. I had him for 28 years until he passed.. NOW I think I’m ready for another horse, and this time I’m going to do things much better.. but I’ll have my own place for them, ohh I’m definitely getting more then 1 so they can have friends, and be horses.. However in teach him under saddle, I did so much work and he was amazing, never tried to give me trouble, i fell off him in deep water in a river, (stupid quick release stirrups) and I fell off and pulled him on my leg, fracturing my leg.. my horse stayed by my side, and my dog, was pulling on my crop trying to get me out of the water.. before cells were around.. Luckily we had lots of riders at that ranch and didn’t take long for someone to come along.. but for a few minutes I did kind of wish I had a horse that ran back to the barn... 😂 🤣 He was so amazing and next time I’m going to try harder to do what’s best for him... 🐴 ANYONE BUYING A FOAL NEEDS TO BE VERY PREPARED!! 🐴 I don’t think I’ll go that route again.. all though our bond was amazing... I did go to a Pat P.. similar but I walked out.. I asked a question on my horse not liking white objects.. When he was 2.5 I started sitting on his back, I started the slow way since I had lots of time,, leaning, laying then sitting in the pipe corral then took him in the big area where they had barrels set up for barrel racing one night I was just sitting on him bareback encouraging him around, and not thinking I kicked the white barrel(my dumb-self) it scared him he spooked and I fell off .. he ran back to me and looked at me like what are you doing down there puffing at me.. So I know it was my fault.. I wish Pat P would of just instructed me to bring him around white, get him use to It..Now I know what to do, but then I was a young horse owner training her own horse herself, and learning myself.. Instead Pat P.. told me, to not bring him around anything white... So I got up and left.. I just thought what an A HOLE.. I guess he only wanted certain question or thought I was an idiot.. obviously I was an idiot but looking for help.. that was very discouraging.... if I was riding, I did get him past white trailers or white objects, but you could feel his hesitation.. or he would get spooky.. Arabs are spooky enough and I made it worst kicking that dumb barrel.. If pat p would of said, really push him with white, I would of hung white all around, done everything to make him feel secure around white, not just when I approached it.. I would of de whited.. him.. but then I didn’t even think about that, I was so new... and it’s amazing how stupid I was back then....So ty for this channel.. I’m learning so much from you and I ALSO FOLLOW think like a horse.. ITS AMAZING... THANK YOU ♥️
You did the best you could, and you did better than a lot of other owners. And most important, you learned a lot. So I think you did ok, and this time you will do a fantastic job! Because you have the 2 most important things, love for your horse, with an honest desire for what's best for them, and the ability to see yourself honestly, the good and bad, and learn from both. You will be an amazing owner this time!
You also had the ability to see through Pat Pirelli, and to see that he truly is an assh*le! You were not bamboozled by him, as some people are. You saw that he lacked common sense. A lot of these guys who consider themselves to be stars are 100% EGO, and ZERO% BRAINS. But obviously you're smarter than him, and much more of a naturally talented horseman (woman).
I also love that you did what everyone should do, if I understood you correctly, and you kept and cared for your horse right until he was old, and to the end. My heart goes out you for that. It burns me up when people thimk that if they can't be ridden there is no more reason to keep them! If those people are also discarded in their old age, to a place where they are tortured, they will deserve it.
I really think an awful lot of you Stephanie! You have the most important qualities required. And those ones happen to also be the most rare, but you have them. I just can't tell you how important that is! Nobody is perfect, but those who do the best at this don't consider themselves to be perfect. You have a lot of the most valuable knowledge, and much more important, you have the abilty to see yourself honestly, and learn from your mistakes (and those of others.) You are special in that you already have the things that matter most!
You did your very best for your horse at every turn, and it sounds like he loved you a lot, and was as happy overall as you could get him to be. I have a lot of faith in you! So go and do it! Use what you learned, and have confidence in your abilities! All the best of luck to you. I know that you and your new horse will be very healthy and happy, because you do have the things it takes. Much more so than most horse owners do!
I wish I knew you in person, to meet your new horse and be your friend, and to hear how it goes for you both. I wish TONS of good luck to you Stephanie, and lots of love to you both!
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Be glad to see this colt grow.
Man wish I would’ve seen this a few hours ago. Oh well. Restarting tomorrow!
Id love to see him 3years later
Might happen, stay tuned
@@ryanrosehorsemanship 👏🏻
Such a tawny little fella.
Yes. All about teaching them to following a feel; a foundation skills. Then they can learn how to respond to driving . Makes perfect sense.
Great video
Is the owner on social media? I would love to watch this guy grow up!
Love that name. Cypress.
My young foal was really comfortable when starting with a halter.
Thanks for sharing. Liked the Name of this one too.
My to, cool name
Nice job
Great video I have a friend that breeds and needs these videos
Being an old fart I am a toal DOrrance guy. I was lucky enough to work ranches around Kaycee and Branaman would show up for brandings so I've had a lot of fun conversations over lunch and dinner but it all goes back to Dorrance for me
A wild horse's primary defense from predators is SPEED. ANYTHING that gives a horse the impression they cannot flee at an instant notice could be a problem. It is good that a foal feels safe around humans but when that human interferes with their freedom to flee, it is gonna be an issue. go very slowly. FOals are naturally curious so use that. I knaw a rancher who uses curiosity as the "pressure, to get into their head. He takes a lawn chaor a beer and a book and sets it in the pen, just sits down and reads and sips. Eventually that colt will overcome their fear and come over to see what's up. when they do that he listens and watches that breathe and the lips. Then he moves the chair..then moves the chair..eventually he will halter the colt and sit in the chair and just puts a "feel" on th elead rope letting it have a nice sag in it. WHen the colt moves to him he drops the rope. Natural childhood curiosity is a useful tool. Then he puts a little weight on the rope with large body movements. By the time that colt is ready for a try at saddle, he can sit on the pen fence and direct that horse all over the pen with nothing but hand and arm movements. Send them away, call them back turn them left or right or lope them in circles. charge the fence and spin away..while sitting on a fence. Horses comminicate by body language and your foal is BORN with that, use it
That’s unbelievable that foal is 3 1/2 months. So big
Wow! They are a beautiful colour! What is that called please? Its not often seen.
We are having our first goal in October so this video was excellent for us to watch. Your strategies will be so helpful for us. Thank you 🙏
The only thing I disagree with is the imprinting. A mother needs time alone with her foal first after birth. It is crucial that she builds a bond with her foal before people do just for the foal's own survival. Without that bond, the chances of her abandoning her foal increases.
Very 😎 cool.
What a pretty mare and foal! He says a 20 x 20 area is best for this. Is that feet? Probably. My initial response to this guy is a great one! It's too early to say for sure, but I'll definately watch a few more, and if I still like him this much, I'll be all in. I did sub though, at least for now.
He didn't state his reasons for every point, but I can tell he knows that a foal's neck vertebrae can be so easily damaged, so he completely avoids yarding or yanking on it. That's also very counter productive.
I also like that he disagrees with Pat Pirelli. Every single thing so far is good! I sure hope he hates Clinton Anderson. 🤣😂🤣 Cuz I do! A total thumbs up for Ryan Rose!
He does his best to avoid badmouthing people (which does wonders for avoiding UA-cam drama), but there are definitely points where he goes "X technique exists, but you get better results with this more sensible Y technique" - he's just real diplomatic about it.
my foal was being weaned gradually then i took them to a kelly marks person and the fuckers separated them. my mare wind sucked all the time after that and the foal latches onto any horse, shes now 20 and still so invested in any horse
That's how I started my filly. 5 min a day, by 3 months she could be lead. I started by asking her to move to the side and as soon as she gave me just one stop or even a thought of a step I'd release pressure. then it got to me getting a few steps, to turning around.. but at first I'd use mom and pressure to get her to move forward, forward was the hardest for her to learn. By 3 months I could lead her pretty well. I'd also leave the lead rope on her in the stall and let her get use to pressure from stepping on it and getting used to things following her and getting it around her legs. My only hole in her training was the face. I didn't put the halter on and off enough I left it on her, her thing was she didn't like her face being touched from day 1. Every foal has that one thing thwy don't like. So w my next foal I'll be doing that a bit diff.
And I weaned over 6-10 months first it was a few minor alone in a stall next to mom. Then it was being fed in the stall next to mom, then a few min pastured next to mom. To eventually spending all night stalled next to mom and pastured right next to mom. No freaking, no calling, no running the fence. By about 10 months she was weaned.
I think you've done this before! 😉 ✌🏼
Im training a horse with your tips 😅
I wish Friesian Horses channel saw this, the weaning of Rising Star was sad. They cried to each other so much, that she put them back together. It was awful to watch the video's.
I was thinking the same thing. RS was too young but treated with the group of two older colts. One problem is the timing of the videos you see. Some things are left off. That's not the only problem I've seen. U pawing on the rail is the pain from arthritis not cute at all. They should watch Ryan's videos:-)
Awww...
Hi I loved this video however my 4 month old colt, started with a halter with no issues, although the part you spoke about with weining, I took my mare of property, and my foal did not stress very long, but I feel like it when very well, he made friends with my other gelding mini. I do not have enough property to put them in separate fields, far enough apart. Did I mess up my changes of my colt being herd bound?
Wouldn't a mare naturally wesn her foal?
Cute foal!
Thanks
@@ryanrosehorsemanship omgggg u responded! I love your videos even tho I’m English I still learn so much!
What knot do you use on the long rope around his beck..is it a slip knot
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The hardest part of training is for the HUMAN to read the "release" Thnakfully, horses are fairly forgiving creatures
Do you have info on the Circle Bar place you mentioned?
It’s called Circle Bar Ranch in Truscott Texas
@@ryanrosehorsemanship perfect. Thank you. 😄
Can this be done with older horses that haven't been led for quite some time?
You bet, especially if they need to just get more comfortable around people.
@@ryanrosehorsemanship thankyou, I was applying forward movement and failing, I'll try again even though she will follow me, free rein, if she knows I have treats, she's 17 and it's been over a year since she was last led, thanks again
1:00 Did she just own her space lol?
Beautiful baby
What is the name of the color of these horses? So cute!
I think it might be Champagne but I could be wrong.
We always let the mare wean the colts, and we never had an issue with buddy sourness. Mares are the best for weaning.
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WOrked a foal years ago that was TERRIFIED of human hands. You could not get anywhere near his head with a rope. You had to actually rope him to catch him. HWat I saw was a 6 month old foal with a shaved path for a bridle. After intense interrogation I learned that before they ever even tried to halter her, they ran her into a chute and shaved her because they didn;t want her to be irritated by the halter....people do stupid things thinking they are doing their horse a favor. Or to make their own lives easier. when you see a dead horse hanging from a Tpost because the owner never trained that horse you just gotta be mad
Tell me if im wrong but cant horses choke and die from a rope being on their neck like that?
No one is suggesting that the foal should be choked, just a tug. No one is suggesting that the lariat remains on the foal with out supervision.
Had a funny thought...MOst HUMAN kids don't get really weaned until they leave home at 18...some at 35...some NEVER get weaned...There are no basements for colts to live in...lmao
The second this woman said imprinted, she lost all cred in my book. WTF is wrong with people, doing stupid sh*t like that. This is real life, not a Twilight movie.
Ryan, please show her how to hold a lead rope
see how the lady is hold those loops of rope around her fingers? If that colt blows up those loops close down and can DESTROY her hand THEN look at how Ryan is holding that lead rope? You need to develop that habit because it you are ponying a horse or pulling a pack string you can drop that half-loop over the saddle horn and if the creature you are toting gets frisky you can usually stop them just by squeezing on the rope. Never lead a horse while you are astride with just you arm. USE THAT SADDLE. or that 1200lbs of muscle will yank you right out of the saddle and probably wreck your shoulder...THINK!!
If the foal is not weaned you should not be doing halter work. When the foal is rejected at the appropriate age by the mother in the natural way it will be looking for a leader, that's when it is the right time to start, not when he is still looking to the mother for leadership and protection.
I agree. I think they respond to you a lot faster when they are weaned. The foals start looking to the person for comfort, leadership, guidance and all that stuff his mother gave. Good video for people that are wanting work their foals. I also think people need to realize Ryan was not hold the horse right under the chin. Horses get real dull it seem by people holding their horse under the chin and tight.
WHY did she wait almost 4 months to halter it? We halter them at 8 hours, desensitizes them
Wow mum's feet are awful .....she needs trimming badly