Terminator Genisys - First Viewing
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- Doug and Rob say this is hands down the worst Terminator film! So what's in it that has them raging with disbelief? Let's take a look at Terminator Genisys.
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Terminator Genisys is a 2015 American science fiction action film directed by Alan Taylor, and written by Laeta Kalogridis and Patrick Lussier. The film is a soft reboot of the Terminator franchise, taking the basic story of the original film in another direction. It stars Arnold Schwarzenegger, who reprises his role as the Terminator (following his absence in 2009's Terminator Salvation), alongside Jason Clarke, Emilia Clarke (no relation), Jai Courtney, J. K. Simmons, Dayo Okeniyi, Matt Smith, Courtney B. Vance, and Lee Byung-hun.
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Sure. And Tom and Jerry: The Movie (1992) was a good movie. NOT.
Love the "Worker and Parasite" shirt Doug wore! Where can I get one?
You know what this movie needed? The light with the light and the light found in the light and light and light and light and DARKNESS! That makes any movie (or video games) better.
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You know, with a bit of retooling, this story could lend itself pretty well to a Terminator videogame.
That movie never explained who sent Arnold back to when Sarah Connor was a kid, did it?
Rob: "Don't subject the cat to our nightmares!"
Doug: "He's my emotional animal!"
Buster: "I'm Buster!"
BUNGER
They don't go into too much detail but we actually do know some stuff
T1: John sends Kyle to protect Sarah, to the same time and place that Skynet sent the terminator, using the same time machine after the base containing it was taken over
T2: Same thing. John sends someone to the same place and time as Skynet but this time we don't know how John got his hands on the time machine
T3: John is killed and his wife sends the reprogrammed terminator after the TX. Again we don't know how she got her hands on the time machine
I would have to assume an alternate timeline John sent Pops back. Maybe for a plot twist, Skynet sent it back to fuck with the timeline. 🤷♂️
Chaplin: And I'm Batman
It's hands down, the dumbest thing about the film because it's never explained who, how or why, or even what she was protected from.
A Terminator set in the 1970s is definitely a better plot idea than the rest of the movie, and wouldn't have been such a bad launching point for an actual reboot if they made the villain something interesting.
Man, so weird seeing Buster grown up after seeing him as a kitten in the Lion King review.
He's a big boy now.
Ike Jr!
He’s becoming a lion himself
He is now, the cash cow, as the mighty sage Chaplin said!
Why do you have to mention shitty movies like that?
On Judgment day, when SKYNET blows up:
Brad: "Hey, Rob, wanna hear about Norm of the North 9: Norm Goes Bananas?"
Rob: ::sees mushroom cloud:: "Thank you."
Food Fight 2...
Ugh
The Daughter Of The son of The Mask aaaaaahhkk!!!!
The lion king remake 2: the death of art.
Humanity has failed
I love how Buster decided to just stay in Doug's lap to nap and get pets.
he sensed his human was in distress.
Uhh....you ppl are weird
This movie is causing my human pain, I shall make things better with my cuteness, I'm Buster
Rob: dont subject the cat to our nightmares
"I'm Buster!"
After naming their first cats after Charlie Chaplin and Buster Keaton, I wonder if their next kitten is gonna be named Abbott after Bud Abbott of the Abbott and Costello movies? You know, so Doug and Rob can call 👋😀 *'Ey Abbott!* like Costello did?
little Buster has grown into such a big boy, I didn’t even realize how much time has passed 🥰😭
They knew it was so obvious John would be the bad guy it was spoiled in the first trailer.
I know right?! That’s exactly what I thought when I noticed they were trying to make it seem like they were making some sort of bold prediction Lmao 😂
@@98keefy maybe they didn’t watch the trailer back then. I personally like to watch movies without knowing anything. I don’t watch trailers anymore because as you said, they spoil a lot, or in this case they spoil everything.
@@98keefy its been a few years since this movie came out so makes sense they would forget that it was spoiled in the trailer
And despite the fan reaction to it being so bad, they decided, in the next movie, to mess up John again. Like, how dumb can they be?
Seriously? The studios are so stupid
"So thats how he got the scar on his face?"
No... it was a cat.
@@FlameOnTheBeat EXACTLY like that pointless, unfunny anticlimax, yes!
Who’s be dumb enough to make a beloved character’s facial deformity the result of a cat? 🤔
@@stephenjeffrey1982 “SOUNDS LIKE BRUCE!!!!”
-John Melany
To be fair, Buster does actually look like Goose.
😐 That was a Flerkin.
“Don’t subject the cat to our nightmares!” - Rob, 2021
“I wanna see Percy Jackson flying through one of those buildings.” The flying scenes in that actually looked realistic with half the budget
The worst part is that they blew the “john is the villain” in the freaking TRAILER!
Arnold Schwarzenegger: "Finally the series is done. Now I can go do whatever."
Terminator: Dark Fate is announced.
Arnold Schwarzenegger: (tear rolls down his cheek) "I'll be back"...
Well he would have had to return for a sequel anyway since Genesys had an open ending and he actually lived at the end of it.
I know your saying a joke but Bro he doesn’t give af , you know how much he gets paid just to say 10 lines in these movies ? He’ll Show up anytime lmao 😂
Actually Arnold is a lot of the reason for stuff in DF. Like he threatened to walk if they didn't have the "drapes" joke.
Are they gonna do a Dark Fate first viewing for Rob?
If only he said "talk to the hand" to the producers
The fact that they both said "what if" at the same time while discussing the writers getting high killed me
Is it weird that I find the "First viewing" more enjoyable than the episodes?
Yeah cuz it's more honest and unscripted
Me too. But I still enjoy the episodes
Doug and Rob are genuinely funny people, their sketches however are subpar at best, the production quality need some major upgrade.
Same
Because there's no embarrassing skits. NGL I think I would be less embarrassed if someone walked in on me watching porno then watching a nostalgia critic skit
James Cameron: I feel like the franchise has been reinvigorated, like this is a renaissance.
Rob: I would rather lick my balls than watch this movie
Terminator 2’s end credit scene should’ve been canon. That way, other Terminator movies wouldn’t exist.
TSCC was really good though and Salvation was at least decent.
What do you mean " other terminator movies" ._. There are only two terminator movies._.
It is cannon in my mind...
Except for the obvious plot hole. In the first film Kyle was sent back *after* the T800 and T1000, but he said only the T800 and himself were sent back. So either Kyle was lying, or Future!John lied to him. Either way 'Uncle Bob', Current!John and Sarah have no way of knowing that Bob is the last terminator in existance, and every reason to think Future!John is lying again, and that more bad terminators are probably coming.
@@anticarrrot I think future John just didn’t tell Kyle about anything other than the terminator sent to kill Sarah. It’s possible that Kyle didn’t even know about the T-1000 and Uncle Bob going back. In Genesys, Kyle clearly doesn’t know what the T-1000 is or that T-800s can be reprogrammed. Although the Resistance video game shows that Skynet sent the T-800 to kill Sarah and the T-1000 to kill John (and a T-850 back to kill Rivers) all before the Resistance even got to the time machine but it is likely that John just didn’t tell Kyle about this because it might affect the timeline.
The teddy bear scene and "Goddamn time traveling robots, covering up their goddamn tracks" line were hilarious.
7:21 "Terminator 3 I'm sorry."
Me: That's all I wanted to hear.
It’s still pretty bad and ruins the perfect ending to 2
But yeah at least it’s not Genisys
It has Kristanna Loken. 😐
"Wow, this movie su--ooo, CAT!!"
That's pretty much the commets👌🏾😹🤖
Everyone is miscast in this:
Emilia Clarke is too tiny to play Sarah Connor.
What's his face is too bulky to play Kyle Reese.
John Connor looks more like retail middle management than the leader of a rebel force.
That's Jai Courtney, a.k.a. the poor man's Sam Worthington. And I forget how I came to know that.
@@louisduarte8763
Ironic, considering Worthington was in the previous Terminator film.
@@louisduarte8763 and when Sam Worthington is a better actor than you, you messed up
Everyone needs their own emotional support Buster for bad movies.
I have an emotional support bear named Steve
I could’ve used a Buster watching Divergent and Dinner for Schmucks
I still don't get why matt smith was in this movie, skynet doesn't have cybermen
the thing that put the shits up me was the count down to windows 10 was happening as this movie came out 😬
I love that one of the poster images had Matt Smith in the corner, with a terribly confused expression. "I'm a Time Lord, and even *I* can't figure out the Timey Wimey Ball these movies have tied themselves into." 😁
😂😂😂
There is...logic in what he says
11:11 Doug’s overly hyper reaction had me in tears.
Me too 🤣
my new profile picture.
"How about a Terminator cat?"
There is a scifi-dystopian Movie called "Screamers" which has killingmachines that comes next to it. It is very old, but also enternaining with Peter Weller.
Hugging my cat makes watching bad movies easier too
2:27 OMG YES!! That's the smile he makes when she starts sipping that drink he just roofied.
Wanna know how I got these scars? I personally was a drinker (but not a fiend, because I’m too bland). So I decided to make some moonshine.
Again: I’m not very interesting.
Anyone else like watching First Viewing before Nostalgia Critic? I like seeing how their honest reactions and off the cuff jokes developed into the scripted comedy.
Rob you’re not the only one who misses Bill Paxton. I got the alien bug stompers they made as a tribute to Hudson.
“Game over man, game over!”
My favorite "blank this" is when Andy says "play with this" to Chucky before shooting him at the end of Cult of Chucky.
Was gonna say that
My favorite "Blank this" is "YOU WANT SOEM OF THIS" from A Haunted House.
Plot Twist: JK Simmons is Omni Man and is here to destroy this movie from the inside.
Tenzin is going to airbend this movie away
@Darth Dämon And Zendaya is Meechee
When you realize you have a similar lamp and same exact cat scratching post in your own living room...
The opening scene in the future is damn good, then it just falls apart
not a fan of the run and gun sequence. plus why don't the people that make these movies understand that AR-15 type weapons are not effective against the machines? that is established in The Terminator. In the police station scene they show the Terminator taking hits from cops with M16s and having no effect it established that killing those takes a lot of fire power- thats why most of the human resistance use plasma based weapons and why explosive or high caliber weapons are used.
In T2 and most of T1 most of the Resistance have plasma weapons since those are effective against the Terminators.
its why i could not take Salvation seriously- the moment Conner landed and shot a T-600 in the head with an M4 i could not take the movie seriously.
They should have just stayed in 1984 and had more screen time for the T1000
@@williamt.sherman9841 The 50 cal worked pretty well. And it was probably AP since they didn't care about the bullet bouncing around inside like it would in a human.
John being a “prophet” is BS. He is supposed to be a great leader! This film spins it as he knows everything that’s going to happen. That would mean in the brief time Kyle was with Sarah he shared all of this intel on the future war....BS
@@williamt.sherman9841 AR15s are also not automatic
9:09
Best one:
Optimus Primal: "Speech this." *Punches Megatron*
There needs to be a Fanscription involving the Terminator franchise because there is so many other directions you could take this franchise.
Yes
Do Salvation but better. Have it set in the future but a FAR more interesting story. In fact like Terminator Resistance.
"Don't subject the cat to our nightmares" 🤣🤣🤣
2:05, Robot Chicken beat you to the punch with the Terminator Puppy.
I’ve been waiting for another first viewing.
Welcome to the club. We meet on Saturdays
They really should have showed more of when pops was send back to rescue 9 year old Sarah
April Fool's!!!! On the outside, he hated it, but on the inside, he likes it.
Heracy!
We could’ve got a Dark Toons toady, but because it’s April 1st, we got a First Viewing instead
I would say that this is Doug and Rob's slow descent into madness but they've descended into madness so many times that they have Frequent Flyer Miles.
How does this not have more likes?!
The only time Ive ever watched this movie, I had recently gone through a bad break up and this movie was so bad it made me feel worse! That's my only memory of this movie!
Wow, not even the film trying to force-feed Arnold down the audience’s nostalgia pie-hole helped?
Haha I’m sorry bro but this made me laugh really hard. What a shit situation. Damn terminator genesis.
Damn, that’s rough
oh wow, Buster's grown up so fast
Well he is a cat a year
To them is like a decade isn’t it
9:07 my favorite is when Peter Parker says "now dig on this"
Dodge this from the matrix
11:15 I laughed so, so hard I was gasping for air 😂😂😂😂
"Protect.... my Sarah..."
"Protect THIS!!!"
The movie could've explored there are pockets of Human Resistance scattered across the world. Each state has their own Resistance, John Connor is just in charge of LA. Other Resistance leaders across the world feel threatened by Connor's influence and wants him eliminated.
Unlikely allies and enemies could be self aware Terminator and certain Human Resistance extremists. It could've been a Warring States meets Disunited States of America set in the nuclear apocalypse.
Human dictators could rise during these trying times, acting worse than Skynet Death Camps. Maybe it's about killing Post Apocalyptic Hitler from 2029 AD.
I hope you guys do a First Viewing on Dark Fate. Rob would have a field day with that movie.
I have not seen this movie myself, but I will say, that I almost NEVER take a sacrificial death fakeout well. It takes an emotional moment and cheapens it so that an ending can be 'happy.' Even as a sucker for a happy ending, I want it to be properly EARNED. If you're going to undo the sacrifice anyway, then why not show HOW death is cheated in the first place? It'd be more interesting, and not make the audience feel like idiots for caring.
Exactly! I can’t stand when people are totally averse to sad or bleak endings, but if a happy ending’s earned, then it works. Whatever kind of ending you have, it should work. Death fakeouts, in my opinion, do not earn that happy ending. Unless you’re Tony Stark in The Avengers, in which case I’m okay cause I wanna see a post-credits scene of you and your superhero friends eating schwarma
@@Overseer2579 and even with that, Iron Man was ready to die, and the way that he's saved makes sense in context. The 'fakeout' in this case is also more about them not being able to really check that he's dead instead of unconscious.
@@adamloga3788 exactly
Imagine how interesting it could be if they actually used an insane person with a T800 shell. They could claim that it was the human element that makes them so much more dangerous. Send someone like Hannibal back with a terminator body but at the last point they decide that it's more fun to mess with Skynet or something. Instantly a more entertaining villian.
Also Doug using Buster has a sheild.
Buster: im buster
Chaplin: im chaplin
Loyld: no your not
"Says who? I've just decided no!," Why do I want that to be actual dialogue in a movie now.
So how much did they pay James Cameron to say he liked this movie?
Not nearly enough.
Probably not as much as when he lied and said that he had an amazing idea for a new trilogy that he wanted to direct when he got the franchise back. But then did absolutely nothing on Dark Fate, didn't direct it, didn't write it and had no problems with 10 different people writing the script.....Nothing about Dark Fate was bad except for the writing and the convoluted story because too many people were throwing too many ideas into one story.
11:12 Dougs reaction 🤣🤣
I swear i nearly cracked a rib from laughing so hard
Me when joe gatto sang wind beneath my wings
4:24 behold, the moment where all hope was lost for this to be a good movie
12:22 and here is the moment where they tried to dig its corpse only to bury it in a deeper hole
Love how rob checks his watch after finding out how much longer was in the movie as if he didn’t believe it
I can't believe they ruined "John Connor is evil" because that's a genuinely good idea.
The last 3 movies screwed the character of John Connor.
@@johnenigma8506 So the majority of the movies he’s been in? lol
Terminator Salvation:
“We have John Connor in the future becoming a leader? Better focus on a random terminator/human hybrid.”
Terminator Genesis:
“We have John Connor as the leader of the resistance, destroying sky net and going back to stop the next sky net in another timeline? Better make him the villain and make him just another terminator.”
Terminator Dark Fate:
“We have a chance to undo the last couple of train wrecks and finally flush out Connor as the hero we’ve been waiting for? Kill him as a kid, replace him with a Mexican woman and make him a total footnote in his own story.”
Will they ever give John Connor any actual development, or are they just gonna keep replacing him and/or shove him in the background?
I'm right there with Doug. I have no idea what the creators were thinking when they decided to retcon Terminator 2, one of the best action movies ever.
That's just a straight-up bonkers move. That's the kind of thing a clown would do after failing to pop a balloon.
As much as I hate Dark Fate, I have to agree that this is the worst. At least Dark Fate wasn't as boring as this film and was trying a little bit, but this is a complete mess. And its biggest sin is turning John Connor evil. That's like turning Captain America into a Nazi.
Buster is such a nice cat. Everyone going to the cinema to watch this movie should be issued a Buster-like cat to help them suffer through it
9:12 "Dodge this" - Trinity in Matrix
Thank you!!! I watched the whole movie the first time thinking John Conner grew up to be Chief O’Brien!
I would like to point out... They revealed that John was the big bad guy in this film in the trailer... THE TRAILER!!! Trailer 2 for this film just flat out shows it. Lmao
Not gonna lie, I have a bit of a soft spot for this movie. Is it good? No. But it’s got good things in it.
The acting from Arnold and Emilia is good. The action is pretty solid. And some of the ideas are actually interesting.
Sara becoming a badass and saving Kyle. Genesis/sky net becoming an app. And most importantly, John becoming a terminator and the main villain.
too bad they gave the John-Terminator surprise away IN the trailer
@@chrisbuttonshaw2088 yeah that was stupid
@@chrisbuttonshaw2088 They even gave away the twist that Arnold was the good guy in the T2 trailer, so they have a habbit of spoiling the movie in the trailers.
@@1997lordofdoom ok. been a while since I saw the T2 trailer. ppl who make trailers are dumb sometimes
@@chrisbuttonshaw2088 Right? Let's spoil one of the biggest plot twists in the movie in the first trailer.
Not gonna lie, the Apple Launch "That's awesome!" joke had Doug sounding oddly a LOT like Bill Burr.
They double tapped the franchise with dark fate after this, if this was a gunshot to the leg, crippling the franchise, then dark fate was a second through the brain.
Yes, yes we know you don't like the wamenz and they raped your childhood because of da wamenz...Dark Fate was far from god awful and most of its problems come from the story being a mess because there were like 10 writers..Literally none of the movie was anything close to resembling bad ideas it was the execution that made bad.
@@lutherheggs451 Sorry I literally have no idea what your talking about...I‘m not going to pretend to care so I’ll just nod my head and move on.
When I first saw this movie, I legit thought they recast Sarah Conner as a teenager.
If you say you’ve heard anything good about dark fate then you’re a liar.
9:42 wow genesys, terminator 2 kinda looks like you just with a good script, characters and a story that would satisfy the fans
8:54
"Dodge this!" - The Matrix
I was so early there were more likes than views.
Why do people say this on EVERY SINGLE VIDEO on UA-cam my gosh lmao
@@chrisbrown113096 because it happens
XD when your so bored watching a movie you have a funeral in the middle of it for a set of phrases
Are first viewings recorded before the review, but posted after the review?
This was when I stopped caring about watching Terminator films in theater and I was like meh... I'll catch it on Netflix a few months later. When I finally did watch it I really liked seeing the difference between the old and new T-800's but those catch phrases man... oh god they where the worst yet. The intro was good but I hated the ending, every movie is a new timeline, none of them matter...
Ah man, I never even knew that a new Terminator was coming out lol... Dark fate wasn't terrible though, they "got it" at some moments and absolutely botched it the rest of the movie.
You know what would have been a good twist. If you're going to go through the effort of making Connor into a machine and sending him back in time, why didn't you have it where his AI, code, or whatever was the source of Skynet. It's sort of a play on the Judgement Day idea. It may have made no sense, but not like the rest of the movie wasn't already. It'd at least be a cool spine on the idea of the hero becoming the villain and maybe make you look back on the other movies in a different light.
3:09 you know who else is the target of skynet? MY MOM!!
Now that its April 2nd,
I LIKE TERMINATOR GENISYS
same, I enjoy these movies for wut they are. I hadn't seen a single trailer for this when I saw it in theaters. I was entertained the whole time. I think they were tryin to dislike for the sake of not liking it and what everyone else said about it. Sometime u just need to turn off ur brain and enjoy the movie.
Don’t subject the cat to our nightmares! 😆
John: my mother
Doug: did you just insult yourself?
I love your channel and it’s content Doug, as well as the rest of the crazy cast of crew such Rob, Tamara, Malcolm and the rest. However, I think it would be really fun to see you guys do a review of some old classic comedies such as blazing saddles, or even do a Monty Python March Marathon thing to see the holy grail, life of Brian, and the rest of those films if you feel up to doing that. Other than that continue making your great videos and I can’t wait to see what you do for the next terminator.
I made the mistake of seeing it in the theaters. And when you pay that kind of money, you feel like you have to finish watching it ya know?
Except for Eyes Wide Shut, that's the only movie I've ever walked out on.
I've walked out of 3 movies in my life
That's My Boy
Transformers The Last Knight
The Rise of Skywalker
Aww, Buster is getting so big🥰
2:22 That smile... "Your NEW ... Captain America..."
First comment and Genesis? God help me i love that sound byte/clip from Star Trek III: The Search For Spock.
To be fair I love this movie, and the final battle was so cool, how the terminator cried and that John was destroyed while his human eye was still there
Same here, it's the only post-T2 film I like because not only does it give T3's ending the middle finger it deserves, but it's the only post-T2 film to keep the hopeful message of it.
And before others try to "actually" me: paradoxes are inevitable in time travel, so why not have one in which a nuclear holocaust and a bleak future is prevented?
@Robert Abreu and besides they gave John a new role he is no longer the one to be saved in a way they did what they wanted in salvation that was killing John Connor but don’t get me wrong his death in dark fate doomed everything because they just wanted to introduce a new hope and what it worse thy destroyed Skynet the supposed villain of the franchaise
@@DocZFlux and besides they gave John a new role he is no longer the one to be saved in a way they did what they wanted in salvation that was killing John Connor but don’t get me wrong his death in dark fate doomed everything because they just wanted to introduce a new hope and what it worse thy destroyed Skynet the supposed villain of the franchaise
@@guillermosierracuellar9812 No joke, the trailers for Dark Fate gave me such Rise of the Machines vibes, and that's primarily why I didn't see it, not because it was "woke" (because I argue that something can't be all that progressive when your "representative" characters are overburdened with trauma and having depressing things happen to them)!
@@DocZFlux Judgement Day was prevented at the end of T2. So they did have that ending.
I agree T2 had a bit more of a hopeful message compared to T1, but there was still that dark tone and sense of dread. I hate all the post T2 sequels, but find Genysis to be the weakest tonally. It felt like this one was really going after the kids and trying to be Marvel. Which at least for me betrays the roots of this franchise.
It's funny, T3 ending is the only part I enjoy in that film lol :)
“You know who else is a target for Skynet?”
“MY MOM!”
Bring First Viewings back, Doug!
Wait, you called Genisys one of the worst sequels ever made in your Top 11 Worst Sequels video and you didn't even see it? Edit: I know it's technically an honorable mention, but still.
Love the "Worker and Parasite" shirt!
:O Buster is getting so big! Sweet kitty!
Yes! I missed the first viewings! I guess the worst Terminator film deserves the latest first viewing.
Funny how a good movie can be 2 hours and you don't even notice but after a bad movie you feel like you aged 5 years.
I will still defend the idea of doing an alternate version of the first movie. Like what Back To The Future 2 did. But they blew it
One time, I'd like the person listening to a villain monologue to tell the bad guy to "shut the fuck up" and shoot them, no quip, no reverse speech, no big one liner, just an honest, "Shut the fuck up," and shoot
Here's the thing of this movie and even the Sarah Connor Chronicles.
They had FUN IDEAS. Dark Fate also explores this idea of: "Can a terminator become more "Human"?"
While the Sarah Connor Chronicles set up something as a "Skynet has setup plans within plans in time travel to avoid being erased" it was poorly executed.
BUT ONE THING THE SERIES DID AND COULD BEEN COOL WAS:
"Skynet as a terminator, acting like a child."
Wait.. Skynet from the future is letting skynet from the past learn how humans are raised what?
The idea of Skynet being able to learn as a terminator unit is fascinating...
Then in Genesys.. The idea of merging with John Connor is a cool idea. But this execution was terrible.
Think of it? Skynet is constantly time traveling to keep the resistance busy with these weaker terminators, but keeps improving their technology and upgrading it self with these back up plans.
To eventually have a way to make John Connor his ally....but eh.. again they did it dumb here.
The concepts are good...but the executions are horrible.
IN my opinion, they need to make a movie where it's simply put... John Connor standing infront a Skynet as an ultimate terminator.. with Skynet litterly having the upperhand and then decides... not to kill John Connor right then and there.
Why? Cause the conflict of Machines and Humans are making them both evoluve and break barriers. They used time travel to outsmart eachother, they get to know eachother better and keep improving from one and another. Skynet sees it's true value of pushing both of them to an extreme evolution.
With John going: "Mankind doesn't need evolution.. conflict ain't the way...Peace can be achieved."
And Skynet going: "Really? Hasn't conflict or the fear of it, made the most advancements in human society? Wasn't that why I was ultimately made to begin with?"
Yaddayadda.. eventually it ends with a plot twist that Skynet does kill john connor, telling him his evolution is done, but mankind's ain't and that he will throw mankind another bone to improve the conflict. (Making Terminator Salvation seem more like Skynet's plan was to get John Connor to make cyborgs but he refused.)
Thus leading into Dark Fate's idea where Skynet already knows how to kill John and how to make a new resistance leader appear with, you guessed it, Cyborg humans helping out.
I would end the franchise with: "Evolution ain't all that is cracked up to be" And a simple human and a simple T-1000 (Old arnold?) destroying Skynet in the future and making a new Skynet go to the past to make "peace" coming from the T-1000 that helped mankind. Showing that mankind and machines can evoluve without conflict.
4:16 This movie is riffing itself.
I wish they’d actually do these more. They’re better than the actual NC reviews