Complaining about the shield plus that you shot for this video not being cut for an optic when there is optic cut versions and not shooting it with the 13 round or 15 round factory mag when youre shooting the glocks with shield mags 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
And they failed to mention it comes with a 13 rounds mag that extends the grip they bitched about or even 15 round mags as well now.. got my EDC kit for $469, the Shield Plus with a mounted red dot already on it, a carrying case, a 10 rounds flush fit mag and 2 15 round mags as well. And the knife and flashlight from Smith as well. $469 for all of that which is easily a $700+ value is insane.
Just to note that the shield plus comes with a 10 - 13 round mag and the Smith Equilizer 15 round can also be used with the shield plus. I usually use the 13 round mag with it. Make sure you guy are presenting the full facts about these micros.
Having two large guys test micro compacts, a size of gun they admit they don’t and wouldn’t carry because they are too small for them, is about the logic I’ve come to expect from this channel.
That's a pretty smooth brained take. I watched two proficient shooters go over a bunch of options... talking about trigger pull, concealability, capacity, etc. If you only listened to the comments regarding size and hand fit and think that's the part that directly applies to you well...that's on you, chief. Fwiw, I walked around a LGS and held all of these. I could instantly tell which ones didn't fit my hand as a 6'2" male and I'd have similar "complaints" as these fellas. A 5'4" woman probably thinks a p365 fits great. That's not the part we're listening to
Plus they could just use extended mags so their pinkys fit better. Rest of the gun is still smaller and good for conceal even with the lengthened mags. IF available for the guns being tested. Some for sure have them. Maybe not all.
Being too small of a micro compact is a very big deal relative to hand size. They also said many times that this is their opinions and other people's mileage may vary. I don't think you understood the video.
My main gripe with this video is that whenever it comes up to Smith and Wesson, they are using the earlier models like with the hinge triggers and/or lesser magazine sizes. They are not giving Smith and Wesson a real chance. The Shield Plus comes in factory with a better trigger and a 13 or 15 magazine size. There is a cutout for an optical sight as well. Don't forget about the 3.6 barrel MP 2.0 as well.
HA! I like this. Of course I'm a SAR fan boy and it did pretty well. Yes, Kaya worked for them so he admits to being a little biased, but the SAR9 SC is a nice carry.
You can get pinky extensions or extended mags with mag sleeves for every single gun you crapped on for having a short grip.. None of them should be deal breakers, lol 😂
The shield plus referred to is this video can be picked up for $399 (ask me how I know) Also you used the 10+1 mag but there’s a 13+1 and you can get 15+1. Also there is options for fiber optic sights and MOS for red dot. Again that was the $399 base model that you claimed was $500+ M&P 9mm shield plus is among the very best micro EDC handguns
I'm a fan of the Sig P365 for its solid capacity in such a small frame, but I also think the Glock 43X deserves mention for its slim profile and reliability. At the end of the day, it’s all about what you shoot best and feel most comfortable carrying every day
Comparing a sig with a glock is wild. Two totally different grip angles that change the entire dynamic of how a person shoots and gets back on sights/target. Some other brand guns follow the glock angle formula. A person needs to stick only with the same angled grip guns. For muscle memory purposes.
Springfield hellcats are extremely underrated. Perfect for pocket carry and if you want throw a 17 round hellcat pro mag in it!!! NOTHING BEATS IT AND THE RELIABILITY IS A1💯‼️
@@kylefreemason almost every gun manufacturer has made questionable statements/ supported questionable laws/politicians. Doesn’t make too much of a difference when it is the best compact 9mm on the market. Original hellcat is the only one that can compete with the Glock 27/26.
My EDC is a Shield Plus Optics Ready (no safety) and I absolutely love it. I honestly can't think of a carry gun I'd want more even spending up to $1200 or so. It's light, compact, easy to carry, comfortable, great trigger, I shoot it well and actually like the stock night sights on mine.
Kinda oxymoron to make a micro/sub compact with 2 big handed guys. Why not invite guest (especially a female) with smaller hands? The ratings could’ve been so much different on the smaller grip guns. Especially when the most common low rating from Aaron & Kaya was based on a small grip.
And complaining about the sites or the pistol not being red dot compatible, etc. Come on guys these are supposed to be micro compacts. If they really aren’t serious about reviewing the pistols that are available in that size just say so upfront
If you've compared them side by side, you'll know that the ratings are accurate. Mostly due to the thickness of the 26, and how top heavy that thick slide makes the gun. After holding the 43x, the problems with the 26 are magnified. With the 43x on the market now the 26 is obsolete.
Why would you guys test the LC9 S and not the Max9, which is Rugers actual Micro 9 entry? Also, you didn't mention the G2C, which is arguably a better gun than the G3C (and you didn't mention the fact that the G2/3C is actually SA/DA, which is the reason for the trigger.
If you're not giving full information on the Shield Plus having an optic cut slide for almost a year now and that the Equalizer 15 round mag works in the Plus so you're not limited to a 10 round or 13 round mag... you really DIDN'T "do the leg work" for us. Thanks anyway.
A gun they didn’t mention was the Kimber R7 Mako, 13,15 round mags The mako is a gun everyone can shoot well. I want one for summer carry and my hellcat pro will be my fall and winter gun.
If it comes with extended factory mags (Hellcat, Shield Plus, etc.) run them with it or mention it or don't talk about the grip size. Also, if it comes with an Optics Ready version. As most do now, mention it as well.
Can’t wait for the day Walther releases a slimline. The F model is the same thickness as the full sized and grip is same height as the compact. Might as well just get the regular compact. F model just has less trigger reach for smaller hands. The day they release a slimline PDP I’ll gladly replace my G48
I have many of those guns. I recently purchased 2 S&Ws, The Shield Plus optic curt with tritium front sight and the Shield Plus Carry comp. They are the best shooting guns I have and have the best trigger except for the Caniks I have and of course I use the 13 or 15 round mags (Thirteen included with both guns) and the grip is fantastic, they're very accurate and utterly reliable. The only one that comes close are the P365Xl with an aftermarket trigger and my Glock 48 also with an aftermarket trigger. I didn't have to modify the M&Ps in anyway. Also they have new versions of the Hellcat, Canik Mete and obviously the S&W. Even the P365 although they are pretty pricey in some cases.
I carry FN Reflex most days and with the 15 rd mag there is no issue getting a full grip. I highly recommend anyone in the market for a micro look at the Reflex.
HK P30SK, I have owned or shot many of the firearms or variations/types you show. This spring I picked up a P30SK LEM (what you all had for this video), I had to put about 500 rounds through it to learn the LEM trigger, now it is my favorite shooting/carry pistol ever. Picked up two 17 rd mags, I have about 1500 rounds throught it now, no fails. You all should have a reliablitiy measure in your assesment not price.
Shield plus comes with 10 and 13 round mags. 15 also available. Plus the optics ready are 450 everywhere pretty much. Not sure why the iffy shield arms mags are included in the info for the Glock 43x. I would not trust them for CCW. they have way too many reported issues. seems as if there was an unfair bias with the glock. the 43x also does not come standard with the optic cut and is close to 500 at most stores for the MOS.
Always gets overlooked or never thought of, probably because their association as mainly a shotgun and rifle manufacturer, but I carry a Mossberg MC2sc. 6.25” OAL, cut for optics, 11+ one and 13+ one mags. Nice concealable size and love the grips. The one knock is the rail. It’s just like a Sigg P3 65 rail, doesn’t have the cross slot. I was able to find a light for it, but I wish it had the cross slot so there were more options. I went with a leather holster because, not being a big player in the market, doesn’t have a lot of holster options or aftermarket support. Love the takedown system. Unfortunately Mossberg has unlimited line of pistols, in fact, all they manufacture is the MC series in only 9 mm, so I don’t ever see them being a big player in the pistol market, but I sure do like mine. Usually right around the $400-$425 Mark but I was able to find mine for $379 at one of the local gun store. In all honesty, though, if Canik had come out with the MC, I would’ve gotten it but at the time they’re smallest option with the SC.
I know they discontinued it. But the CZ rami is a great sub compact. It's a mini cz 75. Double/ single action, hammer fire, alloy frame. Comes with 10 round and 13 round with extended grip. 3" barrel. The alloy frame gives it a little weight to help the recoil. It definitely should be on the list!
Try carrying these in gym shorts and see which ones you can jog in without trouble. That’s why I downsized to the Glock 42 for EDC. Carrying a firearm can be very inconvenient if it’s too big or heavy. Depends on what clothes your wearing, what activities you will find yourself doing while carrying to make the right choice. Just because you “like” one particular gun based on its functions and/or looks, its not a great choice for EDC if it’s printing or dragging your shorts/pants down or flopping around or uncomfortable. Your own personal body size and shape has something to do with your choice also. If your like me 5’7 164lbs and a fit build you find it hard to properly and comfortably conceal a lot of pistols. That’s why I sold my 43x and carry a 42. And I have extra mags on me usually since it’s a low capacity pistol.
That’s why when people that ask me what the best gun is, I told them that it’s one that they can shoot well with and will carry every day. If you decide to stop carrying it every day because it’s too heavier or bulky it defeats the purpose no matter how cool the gun is
Shield plus , you don’t have to have a safety, gives you 10 &12. Far better than the 43 (not the 43x) or any other Glock whose sights you glossed over but pointed out on the smith. The trigger is far better that the Glock also
DO NOT LOVE .380 ACP but twelve rounds of it in a firearm small enough to carry in your pocket yet handle just like a larger firerm needs to be an honorable mention at the least. The Bodyguard 2.0 incidentally I also carry the FN REFLEX with a optic "EPS" carry which is amazing to shoot and as accurate as any micro gun and the Glock 43X with 15 round shield mags and the original P365 with a twelve round mag. For pocket in daily carry all of these firearms especially the Bodyguard fit the bill.
I’m rolling with the low rated EC9s. Reliable, affordable, and so easy to conceal and be comfortable. I tried concealing my G19 but felt like I was carrying around a brick in my pants. The smaller, thinner and lighter the better for me.
Categories are as follows, Full size 4"+ barrel 15 + rounds , compact 3.50 to 3.75 barrel 15 rounds average , sub compact 3.25 to 3.50 barrel 12 rounds average and micro 3.00 to 3.25 barrel 7 rounds average . Each gun should be evaluated and judged within its own category . IMO...
Interesting I see alot of reviewers other than Honest outlaw say that the shield is snappy. Yet most people say it is the least snappy of all the carry guns without comps.
Thanks, guys, for a pretty comprehensive demo of such a broad selection! I have larger hands so my (current carry) is the 365XL. I used to have the HK VP9SK that I foolishly let a good friend talk me into selling to him (still miss it) but like the width of the Sig better for carry. No one talks about 'em anymore but I used to have a Kahr PM9 back when there weren't many small options for carry. It took a while to learn to use a very firm grip and it was so small I really had to shoot one handed but that trigger gave a "surprise break" every time so I ended up more accurate with it than my Glock 19!
The flaming in the comments section of this is better than the video😂😂 if this was a tweet you all might have earned the hardest ratio of the year award 😂😂.
Hellcat osp, holosun 507k, tlr-7 sub, apex trigger and carry with 15 round mags. Works well for me. Definitely hard to get a grip with 10 round mag but much better with 13s and 15s
Should of grab the shield plus that's optic cut and the 13 round mag that it comes with Mt wife shoots that gun perfect you guys could have a different opinion
That would be my choice if they were more available. I liked my RIA BBR in .45, but was a tad harsh recoiling...so I would try one in 9mm. The Bul is a Cadillac though.
@@Washington5057 9mm would be probably be perfect for your setup. I agree though the bul armory is pretty tough to get your hands on but if u can find one don’t let it slip past you.
The Shield Arms 15 round mags for the 43x have had so many issues over the years and that’s the last thing I want in the back of my mind while carrying.
I carry the often-overlooked Mossburg MC2sc in 9mm and the S&W Shield Plus in .30 Super Carry (!), optics-ready with night sights. And since everyone on UA-cam absolutely HATES .30 Super Carry, I picked it up for $299!
Glock 43X is the most sold pistol on the market right now. I went from a Glock 26 to 43X and LOVE it. The P365 had ergonomic problems for me. Glock 43X will be if not already the Gold Standard in carry pistols.
They come with an optic ready, night sight, 3 lb trigger AND a pinky extension in the box… i think i paid $449… and it had a $75 rebate at the time I believe.
Love my sig365x I carry it everyday, fits my hand great even better with ext. Mag ,love the trigger, conceals great with shorts or pants, and the weight is light can't even feel it's there❤sig
The HK CC9 literally came out within 2 days of this video. It's a little hard to believe that you didn't know it was coming out based on everyone else having a video about it.
Are these two guys confusing the HK CC9 that was about to be released when this video came out, with the HK SFP9CC? Am I to understand HK is releasing two ‘micro 9s’ in the USA?
I have the PT111 G2 never a FTF or FTE. Gun’s trigger did nothing but improve with use. Couldn’t be happier! Had this gun over 10 years never a problem! For 300.00 great bargain!!!
Seecamp 2" barrel, 11.5 ounces, indestructible, smooth double action a true get-off-me backup micro pistol. Hellcat, 6 inches long, 4 inches high, 1 inch wide, and weighs 17.9-18.6 ounces. I consider a true micro a one-hand pistol, a back-up not a main carry. In general, I really like your videos. This one is just about "small" carry pistols. A chart is a good suggestion.
Fan of your channel, but we differ in what a Micro is. To me a Micro easily fits in my cargo pants/shorts front pocket. The Shield, Glock 43 OG, & Beretta APX Carry (& J frame snub revolvers) are what I rotate to pocket holster carry. It’s concealability, not comfortable grip or fast reload. And that heavy revolver like trigger on the Beretta is a plus when you pocket holster carry & were raised on DA revolver triggers. Good video though.
From some perspectives a single stack magazine is preferable and shouldn’t be sneered at but instead those advantages at least mentioned ….the magazines are smaller and lighter even if the gun isn’t but overall loaded weight will be less and the extra mags will be lighter and less bulky, not to mention better reliability of a simple single stack and easier loading, and I’m forgetting others
(+1) Also for the Shadow Systems: If you use your Shadow Systems pistol in self-defense in the US, you may temporarily or permanently lose possession of it. If Shadow Systems deems your use justified, they will replace the pistol free of charge. Something Glock doesn't do.
The absolute best micro compact for price, features, shootability, capacity is without a doubt the Hellcat Pro Comp. I’m a Glock fan, own every Sig and have all the M&P stuff… still gotta respect the Hellcat Pro Comp as the best slimline to date.
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Complaining about the shield plus that you shot for this video not being cut for an optic when there is optic cut versions and not shooting it with the 13 round or 15 round factory mag when youre shooting the glocks with shield mags 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Totally agree. It has one of the best out of the box triggers on a sub $500 carry gun.
ABSOLUTELY!!!
They do this every video they feature a S&W in. They use the most dated featureless model and bash it. Doesn’t make sense.
Shield all day every day
S&W makes great firearms, these guys, and others, sh!t on S&W because it isn't glock or other overhyped firearms
Shield plus taking a hit for not being optics ready when the optics ready version has been out for years is crazy
And they failed to mention it comes with a 13 rounds mag that extends the grip they bitched about or even 15 round mags as well now.. got my EDC kit for $469, the Shield Plus with a mounted red dot already on it, a carrying case, a 10 rounds flush fit mag and 2 15 round mags as well. And the knife and flashlight from Smith as well. $469 for all of that which is easily a $700+ value is insane.
How about a summary chart at the end of the video showing the ratings!
Yeah. I want to skip the video and just screenshot a chart with the scores.
I was thinking the same, or segmenting stream for each firearm
would be nice
Glock 26 6.25/10 = $600
Glock 43X 7.65/10 = $489
Glock 43 6 round 6.5/10. = $450
S&W M&P 9 Shield 3.1 8 round 6.75/10 = $540
Sig P365XL 8.25/ 10 = $
Sig P365 10 Round 6.5/ 10 = $500
H&K VP9SK 12+1 Round. 7/10 = $800. [2025 USA available]
Walther PDP F 15 round 7.15/ 10. = $600
Springfield Hellcat MC OSP 11/13rd 6.35/10. =$590
Shadow Systems CR920 13+1. 7.95/10
Beretta APX A1 8 round 3/10= $330
Ruger LC9S 7+1 5/10 = $450
Sar9 SC 12 round 7.9/10. $480
Canik Mete MC9 12/15 round 7.6/10 = $
Taurus GX4 15 round 11+1 5.9/10 = $300
Taurus G3C 12 Round 3.75/10 = $230
FN Reflex 11/15 round 7.3/10 = $500
Rock Island BBR 10 round 6.355/10 $600
@@cocoschwabyou’re a real one bro appreciate you
Just to note that the shield plus comes with a 10 - 13 round mag and the Smith Equilizer 15 round can also be used with the shield plus. I usually use the 13 round mag with it. Make sure you guy are presenting the full facts about these micros.
Plus they have a red dot ready version that's 450. Idk where they got 500 from
@@joshuarichford9936you can find the optic ready version under $400. I got my non optic version for $375 a couple years ago. May get it milled
They will only present all the facts if its a glock.
They don't care about being honest. They only care about who's paying them to make their product look good.
Having two large guys test micro compacts, a size of gun they admit they don’t and wouldn’t carry because they are too small for them, is about the logic I’ve come to expect from this channel.
That's a pretty smooth brained take.
I watched two proficient shooters go over a bunch of options... talking about trigger pull, concealability, capacity, etc. If you only listened to the comments regarding size and hand fit and think that's the part that directly applies to you well...that's on you, chief.
Fwiw, I walked around a LGS and held all of these. I could instantly tell which ones didn't fit my hand as a 6'2" male and I'd have similar "complaints" as these fellas. A 5'4" woman probably thinks a p365 fits great. That's not the part we're listening to
@@PapaNoffDeez BETA!!!!
@@PapaNoffDeez Do you have the hots for these guys or something? You’re driving pretty hard to the hoop.
Well stated
Plus they could just use extended mags so their pinkys fit better. Rest of the gun is still smaller and good for conceal even with the lengthened mags. IF available for the guns being tested. Some for sure have them. Maybe not all.
Yall missed the mark. You’re trying to find the best MICRO COMPACT and then complain about the small sizes.
Exactly right
Agreed...
Well there is such a thing as TOO small
@@josephpepe2607 thats what she said
Being too small of a micro compact is a very big deal relative to hand size. They also said many times that this is their opinions and other people's mileage may vary. I don't think you understood the video.
Honest Outlaw is my go to
He's in addition to me going here. Love his take on guns too.
Yes sir , before it used to be this channel when it had Clint but not no more
Me too he saved me so much well after I found him lol
how is that relevant to this video
@@Lionbeard how is this relevant to this conversation?
My main gripe with this video is that whenever it comes up to Smith and Wesson, they are using the earlier models like with the hinge triggers and/or lesser magazine sizes. They are not giving Smith and Wesson a real chance. The Shield Plus comes in factory with a better trigger and a 13 or 15 magazine size. There is a cutout for an optical sight as well. Don't forget about the 3.6 barrel MP 2.0 as well.
That and they were about a hundred off on price
Correctomundo, both of you 👍🏼
They literally showed the Smith Plus with the really nice flat face trigger.
I thought micros are supposed to be small so why judge them negatively because of size.
Because they are micros. Size matters
Agreed.
I don't need advice from men who have L sized hands, I have M size hands.
I think they lost their plot on this one…
Because bigger guys like him carrying glock 19s but have to do micro 9 reviews for the $$
@@mikejmardisno it really doesn't.
Shield Plus all day… the trigger is great, reliable, accurate, and shoots so well!
they are paid schills! Shield Plus all day. Gun is snappy? LOL
One of the most underrated CZ P10sc
Shield plus FTW
This is the way
Nah Springfield hellcat for sure
Here here.
nutbhus
Yall woke up and thought "hmmm, what fan boys can we butthurt today"?
They woke up and chose violence. 😆
That's fuckin funny
😂😂😂
HA! I like this. Of course I'm a SAR fan boy and it did pretty well. Yes, Kaya worked for them so he admits to being a little biased, but the SAR9 SC is a nice carry.
You can get pinky extensions or extended mags with mag sleeves for every single gun you crapped on for having a short grip.. None of them should be deal breakers, lol 😂
Shield Plus optics cut with extended magazine is the answer.
I prefer the Pearce pinky extension. Perfect fit and both are made in America 👍🏼🇺🇸
The shield plus referred to is this video can be picked up for $399 (ask me how I know)
Also you used the 10+1 mag but there’s a 13+1 and you can get 15+1. Also there is options for fiber optic sights and MOS for red dot.
Again that was the $399 base model that you claimed was $500+
M&P 9mm shield plus is among the very best micro EDC handguns
I'm a fan of the Sig P365 for its solid capacity in such a small frame, but I also think the Glock 43X deserves mention for its slim profile and reliability. At the end of the day, it’s all about what you shoot best and feel most comfortable carrying every day
Sig365 all day everyday
Comparing a sig with a glock is wild. Two totally different grip angles that change the entire dynamic of how a person shoots and gets back on sights/target. Some other brand guns follow the glock angle formula. A person needs to stick only with the same angled grip guns. For muscle memory purposes.
Springfield hellcats are extremely underrated. Perfect for pocket carry and if you want throw a 17 round hellcat pro mag in it!!! NOTHING BEATS IT AND THE RELIABILITY IS A1💯‼️
Springfield was supporting antigun lobbyists. I would no longer support them.
@@BoogaGoon It was widely publicized. Google is your friend.
@@kylefreemason almost every gun manufacturer has made questionable statements/ supported questionable laws/politicians. Doesn’t make too much of a difference when it is the best compact 9mm on the market. Original hellcat is the only one that can compete with the Glock 27/26.
My EDC is a Shield Plus Optics Ready (no safety) and I absolutely love it. I honestly can't think of a carry gun I'd want more even spending up to $1200 or so. It's light, compact, easy to carry, comfortable, great trigger, I shoot it well and actually like the stock night sights on mine.
Same here. I've shot most of these guns plus a CZ P10S which is also great but chose the shield plus with an EPS dot
@@crbalch1been between the shield plus and a P10c. What made you choose the shield over the P10 series?
@@Calvin1911 Because it's slimmer and I like how it shoots. I carry a P10C most of the time and the shield on occasion
Shield plus never gets the love it deserves
Yall do these firearms a major disservice not including the extended magazines for those that come with them....
Kinda oxymoron to make a micro/sub compact with 2 big handed guys. Why not invite guest (especially a female) with smaller hands? The ratings could’ve been so much different on the smaller grip guns. Especially when the most common low rating from Aaron & Kaya was based on a small grip.
Exactly. This test is seriously skewed.
interesting point
That’s a great point. I hope they see this comment and redo this test.
Very well said. I was thinking the same thing just not in that configuration 😂
Lol that was clint and kayde's job
I run the S&W Shield Plus but with the Equalizer magazine. Fills out the grip a LOT better and bingo takes it to a 15 + 1 Micro.
@@Lumpygrits76 that grip makes it longer than a 43x though
I shot the shield plus with the 13 round mag and it felt amazing in the hand. Never found it snappy at all
Having all them muscles and complaining about grip and snappiness is insane 😂 😅😂😅
And complaining about the sites or the pistol not being red dot compatible, etc. Come on guys these are supposed to be micro compacts. If they really aren’t serious about reviewing the pistols that are available in that size just say so upfront
😂😂😂😂
Grip stinks with all that baby oil... :'D
@@Swatican lmao
Ky always wears shirts from the kids department
Yeah usually Kaya is a smith guy. Not sure why the shield was somewhat misrepresented. You get a 13 round mag with the gun and you can get a 15 round
The 26 gets knocked down as is, but the 43x gets boosted because it has aftermarket mags. Not exactly being fair.
If you've compared them side by side, you'll know that the ratings are accurate. Mostly due to the thickness of the 26, and how top heavy that thick slide makes the gun. After holding the 43x, the problems with the 26 are magnified. With the 43x on the market now the 26 is obsolete.
@@pimpovic2 the 26 will never be obsolete just for the simple fact that you can fit 100 rounds into this gun without a hiccup do your homework buddy😂
G26 is the perfect concealed gun to this day for the simple fact I can run a spare 17rd mag or even a 33 in the jeep.
Why would you guys test the LC9 S and not the Max9, which is Rugers actual Micro 9 entry?
Also, you didn't mention the G2C, which is arguably a better gun than the G3C (and you didn't mention the fact that the G2/3C is actually SA/DA, which is the reason for the trigger.
Glock 26 with 12-round mags and some 33-round mags in case the SHTF.
LMAO this is the only gun channel that says the SHIELD is “snappy”.
If you're not giving full information on the Shield Plus having an optic cut slide for almost a year now and that the Equalizer 15 round mag works in the Plus so you're not limited to a 10 round or 13 round mag... you really DIDN'T "do the leg work" for us.
Thanks anyway.
Ruger Max 9 - I came into one unexpectedly and really like it. I also really like my 43x
I think the Mossberg MC2sc deserves a spot on the table
100% agree
Yall cheated S&W the shield plus has 10-13-15 round mags
A gun they didn’t mention was the Kimber R7 Mako, 13,15 round mags
The mako is a gun everyone can shoot well. I want one for summer carry and my hellcat pro will be my fall and winter gun.
R7 mako is underrated and on no one's radar.. great all around
@@mrt2124 Mako's are having issues.
@@davidwarren3433 with what? Mine isn't
I love my Shadow Systems CR920P - it’s my EDC. In fact, I loved it so much I went ahead and got me the bigger MR920P as well. Both shoot flawlessly.
Aaron has slowly persuaded me towards sig.
I carry now a sig x compact.
Used to carry glock 19 or Glock 45
Go back to Glock it's safe
@@Precocktrigger I've dropped it beat on it dropped it dropped it 20 times never went off
@@dougthomas9435 lol ok it's your body my man
If it comes with extended factory mags (Hellcat, Shield Plus, etc.) run them with it or mention it or don't talk about the grip size. Also, if it comes with an Optics Ready version. As most do now, mention it as well.
Can’t wait for the day Walther releases a slimline. The F model is the same thickness as the full sized and grip is same height as the compact. Might as well just get the regular compact. F model just has less trigger reach for smaller hands. The day they release a slimline PDP I’ll gladly replace my G48
Walther makes the best pistols.
Rumor has it that ER nurses watch this channel to fantasize about their arm veins. The best pistol is the one you can afford to buy and train with.
Don’t matter how good the veins are, they’ll still place the IV in the AC - ICU nurse
Sorry, but it sounds like you’re the one that’s fantasizing.
Pause....
It also has to work reliably.... That's pretty damn important.
@@scottnesbit2807who wouldn’t 😉
I have many of those guns. I recently purchased 2 S&Ws, The Shield Plus optic curt with tritium front sight and the Shield Plus Carry comp. They are the best shooting guns I have and have the best trigger except for the Caniks I have and of course I use the 13 or 15 round mags (Thirteen included with both guns) and the grip is fantastic, they're very accurate and utterly reliable. The only one that comes close are the P365Xl with an aftermarket trigger and my Glock 48 also with an aftermarket trigger. I didn't have to modify the M&Ps in anyway. Also they have new versions of the Hellcat, Canik Mete and obviously the S&W. Even the P365 although they are pretty pricey in some cases.
I carry FN Reflex most days and with the 15 rd mag there is no issue getting a full grip. I highly recommend anyone in the market for a micro look at the Reflex.
Bingo!
HK P30SK, I have owned or shot many of the firearms or variations/types you show. This spring I picked up a P30SK LEM (what you all had for this video), I had to put about 500 rounds through it to learn the LEM trigger, now it is my favorite shooting/carry pistol ever. Picked up two 17 rd mags, I have about 1500 rounds throught it now, no fails. You all should have a reliablitiy measure in your assesment not price.
Shield plus performance center for life
Shield plus comes with 10 and 13 round mags. 15 also available. Plus the optics ready are 450 everywhere pretty much. Not sure why the iffy shield arms mags are included in the info for the Glock 43x. I would not trust them for CCW. they have way too many reported issues. seems as if there was an unfair bias with the glock. the 43x also does not come standard with the optic cut and is close to 500 at most stores for the MOS.
Always gets overlooked or never thought of, probably because their association as mainly a shotgun and rifle manufacturer, but I carry a Mossberg MC2sc. 6.25” OAL, cut for optics, 11+ one and 13+ one mags. Nice concealable size and love the grips. The one knock is the rail. It’s just like a Sigg P3 65 rail, doesn’t have the cross slot. I was able to find a light for it, but I wish it had the cross slot so there were more options. I went with a leather holster because, not being a big player in the market, doesn’t have a lot of holster options or aftermarket support. Love the takedown system. Unfortunately Mossberg has unlimited line of pistols, in fact, all they manufacture is the MC series in only 9 mm, so I don’t ever see them being a big player in the pistol market, but I sure do like mine. Usually right around the $400-$425 Mark but I was able to find mine for $379 at one of the local gun store. In all honesty, though, if Canik had come out with the MC, I would’ve gotten it but at the time they’re smallest option with the SC.
I know they discontinued it. But the CZ rami is a great sub compact. It's a mini cz 75. Double/ single action, hammer fire, alloy frame. Comes with 10 round and 13 round with extended grip. 3" barrel. The alloy frame gives it a little weight to help the recoil. It definitely should be on the list!
Forgot the Mossberg Mc2sc. 11+1, tritium sights, red dot ready.
Try carrying these in gym shorts and see which ones you can jog in without trouble. That’s why I downsized to the Glock 42 for EDC. Carrying a firearm can be very inconvenient if it’s too big or heavy. Depends on what clothes your wearing, what activities you will find yourself doing while carrying to make the right choice. Just because you “like” one particular gun based on its functions and/or looks, its not a great choice for EDC if it’s printing or dragging your shorts/pants down or flopping around or uncomfortable. Your own personal body size and shape has something to do with your choice also. If your like me 5’7 164lbs and a fit build you find it hard to properly and comfortably conceal a lot of pistols. That’s why I sold my 43x and carry a 42. And I have extra mags on me usually since it’s a low capacity pistol.
That’s why when people that ask me what the best gun is, I told them that it’s one that they can shoot well with and will carry every day. If you decide to stop carrying it every day because it’s too heavier or bulky it defeats the purpose no matter how cool the gun is
Shield plus , you don’t have to have a safety, gives you 10 &12. Far better than the 43 (not the 43x) or any other Glock whose sights you glossed over but pointed out on the smith. The trigger is far better that the Glock also
Love my P365 XL with the 17 rd mags, holosun eps carry, and tlr-7. Throw it in a Tier 1 conceiled holster and you're golden.
FN Reflex and Glock 43x are my go to EDCs…. Stay safe and God Bless.
Shield plus everyday. I dont need a dot. I occasionally rotate in my Hellcat.
Walther PDP-F Pro for the win
Taurus G3C has a long pull and a short reset
Save it .. they biased AF
Thats what i said 🤷🏾
DO NOT LOVE .380 ACP but twelve rounds of it in a firearm small enough to carry in your pocket yet handle just like a larger firerm needs to be an honorable mention at the least. The Bodyguard 2.0
incidentally I also carry the FN REFLEX with a optic "EPS" carry which is amazing to shoot and as accurate as any micro gun and the Glock 43X with 15 round shield mags and the original P365 with a twelve round mag. For pocket in daily carry all of these firearms especially the Bodyguard fit the bill.
Shield plus comes with a 12 round mag as well and allows you to get a better grip
I’m rolling with the low rated EC9s. Reliable, affordable, and so easy to conceal and be comfortable. I tried concealing my G19 but felt like I was carrying around a brick in my pants. The smaller, thinner and lighter the better for me.
Aaron never disappoints with his ratings. 😂😂😂😂😂
Smith and Wesson
Csx best EDC
Shield plus with red dot, 13 & two 15 round mags. Also has the best trigger on any EDC. Also, G43X, Hellcat pro and P365XL definitely up there.
Categories are as follows, Full size 4"+ barrel 15 + rounds , compact 3.50 to 3.75 barrel 15 rounds average , sub compact 3.25 to 3.50 barrel 12 rounds average and micro 3.00 to 3.25 barrel 7 rounds average . Each gun should be evaluated and judged within its own category . IMO...
Hellcat is awesome, the U notch is legit I’m not sure how people don’t like it. It’s so much easier to pickup accurately than 3 dots.
Interesting I see alot of reviewers other than Honest outlaw say that the shield is snappy. Yet most people say it is the least snappy of all the carry guns without comps.
Xds .45 in the factory paddle all day. Kimber .380 in my pj pocket all night. Pinky base plates on all mags
So glad the bbr is finally being shown some love
Get the Glock 48
Solves all the issues of the 43
Gives you the length of the 19 with the slim profile for concealment and comfort
Thanks, guys, for a pretty comprehensive demo of such a broad selection! I have larger hands so my (current carry) is the 365XL. I used to have the HK VP9SK that I foolishly let a good friend talk me into selling to him (still miss it) but like the width of the Sig better for carry. No one talks about 'em anymore but I used to have a Kahr PM9 back when there weren't many small options for carry. It took a while to learn to use a very firm grip and it was so small I really had to shoot one handed but that trigger gave a "surprise break" every time so I ended up more accurate with it than my Glock 19!
FN Reflex MRD with 13 rds
The flaming in the comments section of this is better than the video😂😂 if this was a tweet you all might have earned the hardest ratio of the year award 😂😂.
Fn reflex is edc 🔥
Gotta put the HK CC9 now on this list and let us know how it places.
Also the Bodyguard 2.0 would be good even though it’s a .380.
iwi masada slim. Did not watch the video but i doubt they have it.
Gx4 …best thing smoking 💯
Hellcat osp, holosun 507k, tlr-7 sub, apex trigger and carry with 15 round mags. Works well for me. Definitely hard to get a grip with 10 round mag but much better with 13s and 15s
Should of grab the shield plus that's optic cut and the 13 round mag that it comes with Mt wife shoots that gun perfect you guys could have a different opinion
FN Reflex is my go to SC carry! Shoots amazingly and more comfy to carry than my 509T Mid!
Bul armory sas ultralight comp chefs kiss 👌🏾 best of the best
That would be my choice if they were more available.
I liked my RIA BBR in .45, but was a tad harsh recoiling...so I would try one in 9mm.
The Bul is a Cadillac though.
@@Washington5057 9mm would be probably be perfect for your setup. I agree though the bul armory is pretty tough to get your hands on but if u can find one don’t let it slip past you.
The Shield Arms 15 round mags for the 43x have had so many issues over the years and that’s the last thing I want in the back of my mind while carrying.
I carry the often-overlooked Mossburg MC2sc in 9mm and the S&W Shield Plus in .30 Super Carry (!), optics-ready with night sights. And since everyone on UA-cam absolutely HATES .30 Super Carry, I picked it up for $299!
Glock 43X is the most sold pistol on the market right now. I went from a Glock 26 to 43X and LOVE it. The P365 had ergonomic problems for me. Glock 43X will be if not already the Gold Standard in carry pistols.
Hi! You forgot to shoot the mossberg mc2sc 9mm.
Please watch the video for ranking, but here's the time stamps.
Glock 26 2:26 (sub compact)
Glock 43x 3:52 (large format micro compact)
Glock 43 4:55 (micro compact)
S&W shield 9 6:13 (micro compact)
SIG p365xl 8:11 (large format micro compact)
SIG p365 9:42 (micro compact)
Hk vp9sk 12:05 (sub compact)
Walther PDP F 13:58 (compact)
Springfield hellcat 15:13 (micro compact)
Shadow systems cr920 16:45 (micro compact)
Beretta apx a1 carry 18:43 (sub compact)
Ruger lc9s 21:12 (micro compact)
Sar9 sc 22:06 (sub compact)
Canik mete mc9 23:35 (micro compact)
Taurus gx4 25:58 (micro compact)
Taurus g3c 27:32 (sub compact)
FN reflex 28:58 (micro compact)
Rock Island armory BBR 30:28 (sub compact)
Thanks the clarification and explanation.
They come with an optic ready, night sight, 3 lb trigger AND a pinky extension in the box… i think i paid $449… and it had a $75 rebate at the time I believe.
Love my sig365x I carry it everyday, fits my hand great even better with ext. Mag ,love the trigger, conceals great with shorts or pants, and the weight is light can't even feel it's there❤sig
The HK CC9 literally came out within 2 days of this video. It's a little hard to believe that you didn't know it was coming out based on everyone else having a video about it.
Are these two guys confusing the HK CC9 that was about to be released when this video came out, with the HK SFP9CC? Am I to understand HK is releasing two ‘micro 9s’ in the USA?
I have the PT111 G2 never a FTF or FTE. Gun’s trigger did nothing but improve with use. Couldn’t be happier! Had this gun over 10 years never a problem! For 300.00 great bargain!!!
summer carry - Hellcat w/13 rd mag
all other seasons - Glock 19
Seecamp 2" barrel, 11.5 ounces, indestructible, smooth double action a true get-off-me backup micro pistol. Hellcat, 6 inches long, 4 inches high, 1 inch wide, and weighs 17.9-18.6 ounces. I consider a true micro a one-hand pistol, a back-up not a main carry. In general, I really like your videos. This one is just about "small" carry pistols. A chart is a good suggestion.
Give Aaron some bug spray. My boy's arm is going to be swollen from all those bug bites...lol
Fan of your channel, but we differ in what a Micro is. To me a Micro easily fits in my cargo pants/shorts front pocket. The Shield, Glock 43 OG, & Beretta APX Carry (& J frame snub revolvers) are what I rotate to pocket holster carry. It’s concealability, not comfortable grip or fast reload. And that heavy revolver like trigger on the Beretta is a plus when you pocket holster carry & were raised on DA revolver triggers. Good video though.
I agree
From some perspectives a single stack magazine is preferable and shouldn’t be sneered at but instead those advantages at least mentioned ….the magazines are smaller and lighter even if the gun isn’t but overall loaded weight will be less and the extra mags will be lighter and less bulky, not to mention better reliability of a simple single stack and easier loading, and I’m forgetting others
(+1) Also for the Shadow Systems: If you use your Shadow Systems pistol in self-defense in the US, you may temporarily or permanently lose possession of it. If Shadow Systems deems your use justified, they will replace the pistol free of charge. Something Glock doesn't do.
FN Reflex also comes with a 15 round ext mag (just like the Canik you guys shot with the extended mag) and it feels a lot better.
I carry the Kimber R7 Mako as a micro 9 and love it. It comes with nice night sights, an excellent trigger and shoots great.
Gonna take a while. Speed 1.5x. Play.
CR920 is perfection imo
My top 3- Sig P365, Springfield Hellcat and SW Bodyguard
The absolute best micro compact for price, features, shootability, capacity is without a doubt the Hellcat Pro Comp. I’m a Glock fan, own every Sig and have all the M&P stuff… still gotta respect the Hellcat Pro Comp as the best slimline to date.
The Ultimate Micro Compact pistol THAT WE SELL. Truth in advertising makes a difference.
Micro compact guns are supposed to have small grips. Self defense scenarios don't often require a reload.