Complaining about the shield plus that you shot for this video not being cut for an optic when there is optic cut versions and not shooting it with the 13 round or 15 round factory mag when youre shooting the glocks with shield mags 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Just to note that the shield plus comes with a 10 - 13 round mag and the Smith Equilizer 15 round can also be used with the shield plus. I usually use the 13 round mag with it. Make sure you guy are presenting the full facts about these micros.
My main gripe with this video is that whenever it comes up to Smith and Wesson, they are using the earlier models like with the hinge triggers and/or lesser magazine sizes. They are not giving Smith and Wesson a real chance. The Shield Plus comes in factory with a better trigger and a 13 or 15 magazine size. There is a cutout for an optical sight as well. Don't forget about the 3.6 barrel MP 2.0 as well.
Why would you guys test the LC9 S and not the Max9, which is Rugers actual Micro 9 entry? Also, you didn't mention the G2C, which is arguably a better gun than the G3C (and you didn't mention the fact that the G2/3C is actually SA/DA, which is the reason for the trigger.
Always gets overlooked or never thought of, probably because their association as mainly a shotgun and rifle manufacturer, but I carry a Mossberg MC2sc. 6.25” OAL, cut for optics, 11+ one and 13+ one mags. Nice concealable size and love the grips. The one knock is the rail. It’s just like a Sigg P3 65 rail, doesn’t have the cross slot. I was able to find a light for it, but I wish it had the cross slot so there were more options. I went with a leather holster because, not being a big player in the market, doesn’t have a lot of holster options or aftermarket support. Love the takedown system. Unfortunately Mossberg has unlimited line of pistols, in fact, all they manufacture is the MC series in only 9 mm, so I don’t ever see them being a big player in the pistol market, but I sure do like mine. Usually right around the $400-$425 Mark but I was able to find mine for $379 at one of the local gun store. In all honesty, though, if Canik had come out with the MC, I would’ve gotten it but at the time they’re smallest option with the SC.
HK P30SK, I have owned or shot many of the firearms or variations/types you show. This spring I picked up a P30SK LEM (what you all had for this video), I had to put about 500 rounds through it to learn the LEM trigger, now it is my favorite shooting/carry pistol ever. Picked up two 17 rd mags, I have about 1500 rounds throught it now, no fails. You all should have a reliablitiy measure in your assesment not price.
Shield plus comes with 10 and 13 round mags. 15 also available. Plus the optics ready are 450 everywhere pretty much. Not sure why the iffy shield arms mags are included in the info for the Glock 43x. I would not trust them for CCW. they have way too many reported issues. seems as if there was an unfair bias with the glock. the 43x also does not come standard with the optic cut and is close to 500 at most stores for the MOS.
My EDC is a Shield Plus Optics Ready (no safety) and I absolutely love it. I honestly can't think of a carry gun I'd want more even spending up to $1200 or so. It's light, compact, easy to carry, comfortable, great trigger, I shoot it well and actually like the stock night sights on mine.
A gun they didn’t mention was the Kimber R7 Mako, 13,15 round mags The mako is a gun everyone can shoot well. I want one for summer carry and my hellcat pro will be my fall and winter gun.
Try carrying these in gym shorts and see which ones you can jog in without trouble. That’s why I downsized to the Glock 42 for EDC. Carrying a firearm can be very inconvenient if it’s too big or heavy. Depends on what clothes your wearing, what activities you will find yourself doing while carrying to make the right choice. Just because you “like” one particular gun based on its functions and/or looks, its not a great choice for EDC if it’s printing or dragging your shorts/pants down or flopping around or uncomfortable. Your own personal body size and shape has something to do with your choice also. If your like me 5’7 164lbs and a fit build you find it hard to properly and comfortably conceal a lot of pistols. That’s why I sold my 43x and carry a 42. And I have extra mags on me usually since it’s a low capacity pistol.
That’s why when people that ask me what the best gun is, I told them that it’s one that they can shoot well with and will carry every day. If you decide to stop carrying it every day because it’s too heavier or bulky it defeats the purpose no matter how cool the gun is
I carry FN Reflex most days and with the 15 rd mag there is no issue getting a full grip. I highly recommend anyone in the market for a micro look at the Reflex.
I'm a fan of the Sig P365 for its solid capacity in such a small frame, but I also think the Glock 43X deserves mention for its slim profile and reliability. At the end of the day, it’s all about what you shoot best and feel most comfortable carrying every day
Springfield hellcats are extremely underrated. Perfect for pocket carry and if you want throw a 17 round hellcat pro mag in it!!! NOTHING BEATS IT AND THE RELIABILITY IS A1💯‼️
@@kylefreemason almost every gun manufacturer has made questionable statements/ supported questionable laws/politicians. Doesn’t make too much of a difference when it is the best compact 9mm on the market. Original hellcat is the only one that can compete with the Glock 27/26.
I have many of those guns. I recently purchased 2 S&Ws, The Shield Plus optic curt with tritium front sight and the Shield Plus Carry comp. They are the best shooting guns I have and have the best trigger except for the Caniks I have and of course I use the 13 or 15 round mags (Thirteen included with both guns) and the grip is fantastic, they're very accurate and utterly reliable. The only one that comes close are the P365Xl with an aftermarket trigger and my Glock 48 also with an aftermarket trigger. I didn't have to modify the M&Ps in anyway. Also they have new versions of the Hellcat, Canik Mete and obviously the S&W. Even the P365 although they are pretty pricey in some cases.
And complaining about the sites or the pistol not being red dot compatible, etc. Come on guys these are supposed to be micro compacts. If they really aren’t serious about reviewing the pistols that are available in that size just say so upfront
Can’t wait for the day Walther releases a slimline. The F model is the same thickness as the full sized and grip is same height as the compact. Might as well just get the regular compact. F model just has less trigger reach for smaller hands. The day they release a slimline PDP I’ll gladly replace my G48
Kinda oxymoron to make a micro/sub compact with 2 big handed guys. Why not invite guest (especially a female) with smaller hands? The ratings could’ve been so much different on the smaller grip guns. Especially when the most common low rating from Aaron & Kaya was based on a small grip.
You can get pinky extensions or extended mags with mag sleeves for every single gun you crapped on for having a short grip.. None of them should be deal breakers, lol 😂
Shield plus , you don’t have to have a safety, gives you 10 &12. Far better than the 43 (not the 43x) or any other Glock whose sights you glossed over but pointed out on the smith. The trigger is far better that the Glock also
I carry the often-overlooked Mossburg MC2sc in 9mm and the S&W Shield Plus in .30 Super Carry (!), optics-ready with night sights. And since everyone on UA-cam absolutely HATES .30 Super Carry, I picked it up for $299!
If it comes with extended factory mags (Hellcat, Shield Plus, etc.) run them with it or mention it or don't talk about the grip size. Also, if it comes with an Optics Ready version. As most do now, mention it as well.
I know it's only a .380acp, but I really enjoy my Bersa Thunder 380+. Shoots great and accurately. 15+1. And I can carry it during the warmer months when I wear lighter clothing without printing. Colder months I like my MR version of the P99. Again 15+1, but in 9mm
Fan of your channel, but we differ in what a Micro is. To me a Micro easily fits in my cargo pants/shorts front pocket. The Shield, Glock 43 OG, & Beretta APX Carry (& J frame snub revolvers) are what I rotate to pocket holster carry. It’s concealability, not comfortable grip or fast reload. And that heavy revolver like trigger on the Beretta is a plus when you pocket holster carry & were raised on DA revolver triggers. Good video though.
Right now I carry a Canik elite sc. great gun . Red dot mounted . Next I’m looking at a 2011. Great triggers no choice made yet. Input from everyone would be awesome. $1500 range
Should of grab the shield plus that's optic cut and the 13 round mag that it comes with Mt wife shoots that gun perfect you guys could have a different opinion
You can literally get the M&P shield plus without a safety, with a 13 round mag that gives you a better grip, and with optic cut. Y’all scored it negatively for everything that it can come with 😂. This is wild
Ok, I get complaints about the grip on the 26. A Pierce pinky floor plate solves that problem. But like you said, right out of the box. So why does the 43x get points for having availability for aftermarket mags? Right out of the box means right out of the box.
The absolute best micro compact for price, features, shootability, capacity is without a doubt the Hellcat Pro Comp. I’m a Glock fan, own every Sig and have all the M&P stuff… still gotta respect the Hellcat Pro Comp as the best slimline to date.
I have a GX4 that has a 4.5 pound trigger pull out of the box. The field strip take down is one of the easiest I have seen. My EDC is a Canik TP9sf Elite that is a dream to shoot.
I know they discontinued it. But the CZ rami is a great sub compact. It's a mini cz 75. Double/ single action, hammer fire, alloy frame. Comes with 10 round and 13 round with extended grip. 3" barrel. The alloy frame gives it a little weight to help the recoil. It definitely should be on the list!
Interesting I see alot of reviewers other than Honest outlaw say that the shield is snappy. Yet most people say it is the least snappy of all the carry guns without comps.
Sig p365xl appendix. Prints less than my Glock 43 with the +3 mag extensions, and I'm rocking an sig red dot, and some mcarbo trigger kit to bring it to a nice crisp light trigger.
The Shield Arms 15 round mags for the 43x have had so many issues over the years and that’s the last thing I want in the back of my mind while carrying.
Hellcat osp, holosun 507k, tlr-7 sub, apex trigger and carry with 15 round mags. Works well for me. Definitely hard to get a grip with 10 round mag but much better with 13s and 15s
Seecamp 2" barrel, 11.5 ounces, indestructible, smooth double action a true get-off-me backup micro pistol. Hellcat, 6 inches long, 4 inches high, 1 inch wide, and weighs 17.9-18.6 ounces. I consider a true micro a one-hand pistol, a back-up not a main carry. In general, I really like your videos. This one is just about "small" carry pistols. A chart is a good suggestion.
my springfield xd mod 2 is perfect, flush mag 13+1 extended holds 16. although it says subcompact its more of a micro and its super soft shooting way more than the hellcat
I carry the IWI Masada Slim. Good ergonomics 13+1 and can use CZ75 and Jericho mags. Shoots true and not 1 malfunction in 500 rounds so far. And cut for optics.
I have the BBR in .45ACP and I love that little hand cannon! Yeah, carry is rough, it is heavy but it is fun. As for my EDC, I went with the Hellcat Pro Comp and that is fantastic!
edc is mp shield 9mm but just ordered Sig P365 xmacro. Ran the m&p because it was the best at its time. I wanted the G43 but it’s not on the Ca roster. Thankfully today there’s slot more options for edc.
Of all the Beretta's to include, you did the original Apx carry. Why not the APX A1 compact? If you can do the HK VP9SK and the others that are chunky, give that a try.
They come with an optic ready, night sight, 3 lb trigger AND a pinky extension in the box… i think i paid $449… and it had a $75 rebate at the time I believe.
I like the glock 26 my pinky does hang off so I just use a longer magazine and the problem is fixed, the gun shoots like a bigger gun it's a good shooter.
Love my sig365x I carry it everyday, fits my hand great even better with ext. Mag ,love the trigger, conceals great with shorts or pants, and the weight is light can't even feel it's there❤sig
(+1) Also for the Shadow Systems: If you use your Shadow Systems pistol in self-defense in the US, you may temporarily or permanently lose possession of it. If Shadow Systems deems your use justified, they will replace the pistol free of charge. Something Glock doesn't do.
The HK CC9 literally came out within 2 days of this video. It's a little hard to believe that you didn't know it was coming out based on everyone else having a video about it.
Are these two guys confusing the HK CC9 that was about to be released when this video came out, with the HK SFP9CC? Am I to understand HK is releasing two ‘micro 9s’ in the USA?
If you're not giving full information on the Shield Plus having an optic cut slide for almost a year now and that the Equalizer 15 round mag works in the Plus so you're not limited to a 10 round or 13 round mag... you really DIDN'T "do the leg work" for us. Thanks anyway.
IMHO, the best micro on the table was the Walther. Handles well, needs nothing. But my pick would be a Beretta PX4 Sub. Sadly, discontinued. A sub that acts like a full size. Hammer fired, chunky girl. But uses f/s mags. 20 rounds if you want. A Bul Axe outshoots that Shadow Systems....At half the price.Buries any Glock..I had an LC9S.. Snappy..But a good striker that'll shoot the crappiest ammo if needed.The Mete is #2.. AWESOME. Maybe best for the price..That Rock Island? Never shot it, but I like it.
The only thing I like about my burnt bronze standard p365 is that now I can get a macro style grip of some sort and get the radian ramjet but besides that I honestly regret it + my slide isn’t cut for a dot. Looking back I wish I would have waited on different ones to come out.
Since you don’t mention it had to be a 9mm. I think the bodyguard 2.0 is a surprisingly easy gun to shoot and the shoot ability per size per cost ratio has it as a definite winner.
Since you had the p365 and 365xl, I think you should have had the Shield Plus and the Carry Comp/ Performance center by Smith. I think that Carry Comp is something special. 😊 thanks for all you are doing, and Keep banging!
I carry the Hellcat OSP, why was it not in the list. The hellcat is very accurate and it is a great carry gun. it's not a competition gun, but as a carry gun it is an outstanding gun. It didn't even make your list. wow.
@@davidhudson2527 thanks I found it. I still do not know why the glock ranks better than the hellcat. I can shoot 1 inch groups t 10 yards with mine…the tigger while not competition…its good and deliberate for an edc gun.
Complaining about the shield plus that you shot for this video not being cut for an optic when there is optic cut versions and not shooting it with the 13 round or 15 round factory mag when youre shooting the glocks with shield mags 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Totally agree. It has one of the best out of the box triggers on a sub $500 carry gun.
ABSOLUTELY!!!
They do this every video they feature a S&W in. They use the most dated featureless model and bash it. Doesn’t make sense.
Shield all day every day
S&W makes great firearms, these guys, and others, sh!t on S&W because it isn't glock or other overhyped firearms
How about a summary chart at the end of the video showing the ratings!
Yeah. I want to skip the video and just screenshot a chart with the scores.
I was thinking the same, or segmenting stream for each firearm
would be nice
Glock 26 6.25/10 = $600
Glock 43X 7.65/10 = $489
Glock 43 6 round 6.5/10. = $450
S&W M&P 9 Shield 3.1 8 round 6.75/10 = $540
Sig P365XL 8.25/ 10 = $
Sig P365 10 Round 6.5/ 10 = $500
H&K VP9SK 12+1 Round. 7/10 = $800. [2025 USA available]
Walther PDP F 15 round 7.15/ 10. = $600
Springfield Hellcat MC OSP 11/13rd 6.35/10. =$590
Shadow Systems CR920 13+1. 7.95/10
Beretta APX A1 8 round 3/10= $330
Ruger LC9S 7+1 5/10 = $450
Sar9 SC 12 round 7.9/10. $480
Canik Mete MC9 12/15 round 7.6/10 = $
Taurus GX4 15 round 11+1 5.9/10 = $300
Taurus G3C 12 Round 3.75/10 = $230
FN Reflex 11/15 round 7.3/10 = $500
Rock Island BBR 10 round 6.355/10 $600
@@cocoschwabyou’re a real one bro appreciate you
Just to note that the shield plus comes with a 10 - 13 round mag and the Smith Equilizer 15 round can also be used with the shield plus. I usually use the 13 round mag with it. Make sure you guy are presenting the full facts about these micros.
Plus they have a red dot ready version that's 450. Idk where they got 500 from
@@joshuarichford9936you can find the optic ready version under $400. I got my non optic version for $375 a couple years ago. May get it milled
They will only present all the facts if its a glock.
They don't care about being honest. They only care about who's paying them to make their product look good.
My main gripe with this video is that whenever it comes up to Smith and Wesson, they are using the earlier models like with the hinge triggers and/or lesser magazine sizes. They are not giving Smith and Wesson a real chance. The Shield Plus comes in factory with a better trigger and a 13 or 15 magazine size. There is a cutout for an optical sight as well. Don't forget about the 3.6 barrel MP 2.0 as well.
That and they were about a hundred off on price
Shield plus taking a hit for not being optics ready when the optics ready version has been out for years is crazy
Honest Outlaw is my go to
He's in addition to me going here. Love his take on guns too.
Yes sir , before it used to be this channel when it had Clint but not no more
Me too he saved me so much well after I found him lol
how is that relevant to this video
@@Lionbeard how is this relevant to this conversation?
Why would you guys test the LC9 S and not the Max9, which is Rugers actual Micro 9 entry?
Also, you didn't mention the G2C, which is arguably a better gun than the G3C (and you didn't mention the fact that the G2/3C is actually SA/DA, which is the reason for the trigger.
Shield plus FTW
This is the way
Nah Springfield hellcat for sure
Here here.
nutbhus
Yall missed the mark. You’re trying to find the best MICRO COMPACT and then complain about the small sizes.
Exactly right
The 26 gets knocked down as is, but the 43x gets boosted because it has aftermarket mags. Not exactly being fair.
Always gets overlooked or never thought of, probably because their association as mainly a shotgun and rifle manufacturer, but I carry a Mossberg MC2sc. 6.25” OAL, cut for optics, 11+ one and 13+ one mags. Nice concealable size and love the grips. The one knock is the rail. It’s just like a Sigg P3 65 rail, doesn’t have the cross slot. I was able to find a light for it, but I wish it had the cross slot so there were more options. I went with a leather holster because, not being a big player in the market, doesn’t have a lot of holster options or aftermarket support. Love the takedown system. Unfortunately Mossberg has unlimited line of pistols, in fact, all they manufacture is the MC series in only 9 mm, so I don’t ever see them being a big player in the pistol market, but I sure do like mine. Usually right around the $400-$425 Mark but I was able to find mine for $379 at one of the local gun store. In all honesty, though, if Canik had come out with the MC, I would’ve gotten it but at the time they’re smallest option with the SC.
HK P30SK, I have owned or shot many of the firearms or variations/types you show. This spring I picked up a P30SK LEM (what you all had for this video), I had to put about 500 rounds through it to learn the LEM trigger, now it is my favorite shooting/carry pistol ever. Picked up two 17 rd mags, I have about 1500 rounds throught it now, no fails. You all should have a reliablitiy measure in your assesment not price.
I thought micros are supposed to be small so why judge them negatively because of size.
Because they are micros. Size matters
Agreed.
I don't need advice from men who have L sized hands, I have M size hands.
I think they lost their plot on this one…
Because bigger guys like him carrying glock 19s but have to do micro 9 reviews for the $$
@@mikejmardisno it really doesn't.
Shield plus comes with 10 and 13 round mags. 15 also available. Plus the optics ready are 450 everywhere pretty much. Not sure why the iffy shield arms mags are included in the info for the Glock 43x. I would not trust them for CCW. they have way too many reported issues. seems as if there was an unfair bias with the glock. the 43x also does not come standard with the optic cut and is close to 500 at most stores for the MOS.
My EDC is a Shield Plus Optics Ready (no safety) and I absolutely love it. I honestly can't think of a carry gun I'd want more even spending up to $1200 or so. It's light, compact, easy to carry, comfortable, great trigger, I shoot it well and actually like the stock night sights on mine.
Same here. I've shot most of these guns plus a CZ P10S which is also great but chose the shield plus with an EPS dot
A gun they didn’t mention was the Kimber R7 Mako, 13,15 round mags
The mako is a gun everyone can shoot well. I want one for summer carry and my hellcat pro will be my fall and winter gun.
Yeah usually Kaya is a smith guy. Not sure why the shield was somewhat misrepresented. You get a 13 round mag with the gun and you can get a 15 round
Try carrying these in gym shorts and see which ones you can jog in without trouble. That’s why I downsized to the Glock 42 for EDC. Carrying a firearm can be very inconvenient if it’s too big or heavy. Depends on what clothes your wearing, what activities you will find yourself doing while carrying to make the right choice. Just because you “like” one particular gun based on its functions and/or looks, its not a great choice for EDC if it’s printing or dragging your shorts/pants down or flopping around or uncomfortable. Your own personal body size and shape has something to do with your choice also. If your like me 5’7 164lbs and a fit build you find it hard to properly and comfortably conceal a lot of pistols. That’s why I sold my 43x and carry a 42. And I have extra mags on me usually since it’s a low capacity pistol.
That’s why when people that ask me what the best gun is, I told them that it’s one that they can shoot well with and will carry every day. If you decide to stop carrying it every day because it’s too heavier or bulky it defeats the purpose no matter how cool the gun is
I carry FN Reflex most days and with the 15 rd mag there is no issue getting a full grip. I highly recommend anyone in the market for a micro look at the Reflex.
Bingo!
Yall do these firearms a major disservice not including the extended magazines for those that come with them....
Yall woke up and thought "hmmm, what fan boys can we butthurt today"?
They woke up and chose violence. 😆
That's fuckin funny
😂😂😂
FN Reflex and Glock 43x are my go to EDCs…. Stay safe and God Bless.
I'm a fan of the Sig P365 for its solid capacity in such a small frame, but I also think the Glock 43X deserves mention for its slim profile and reliability. At the end of the day, it’s all about what you shoot best and feel most comfortable carrying every day
Sig365 all day everyday
I run the S&W Shield Plus but with the Equalizer magazine. Fills out the grip a LOT better and bingo takes it to a 15 + 1 Micro.
@@Lumpygrits76 that grip makes it longer than a 43x though
Shield Plus optics cut with extended magazine is the answer.
I love my Shadow Systems CR920P - it’s my EDC. In fact, I loved it so much I went ahead and got me the bigger MR920P as well. Both shoot flawlessly.
Glock 26 with 12-round mags and some 33-round mags in case the SHTF.
Springfield hellcats are extremely underrated. Perfect for pocket carry and if you want throw a 17 round hellcat pro mag in it!!! NOTHING BEATS IT AND THE RELIABILITY IS A1💯‼️
Springfield was supporting antigun lobbyists. I would no longer support them.
@@BoogaGoon It was widely publicized. Google is your friend.
@@kylefreemason almost every gun manufacturer has made questionable statements/ supported questionable laws/politicians. Doesn’t make too much of a difference when it is the best compact 9mm on the market. Original hellcat is the only one that can compete with the Glock 27/26.
Xds .45 in the factory paddle all day. Kimber .380 in my pj pocket all night. Pinky base plates on all mags
I carry a H&k VP9SK.. if you get the mags with the pinky extender it feels like a full size.. shoots amazing and got a direct mount holosun
I shot the shield plus with the 13 round mag and it felt amazing in the hand. Never found it snappy at all
I have many of those guns. I recently purchased 2 S&Ws, The Shield Plus optic curt with tritium front sight and the Shield Plus Carry comp. They are the best shooting guns I have and have the best trigger except for the Caniks I have and of course I use the 13 or 15 round mags (Thirteen included with both guns) and the grip is fantastic, they're very accurate and utterly reliable. The only one that comes close are the P365Xl with an aftermarket trigger and my Glock 48 also with an aftermarket trigger. I didn't have to modify the M&Ps in anyway. Also they have new versions of the Hellcat, Canik Mete and obviously the S&W. Even the P365 although they are pretty pricey in some cases.
Having all them muscles and complaining about grip and snappiness is insane 😂 😅😂😅
And complaining about the sites or the pistol not being red dot compatible, etc. Come on guys these are supposed to be micro compacts. If they really aren’t serious about reviewing the pistols that are available in that size just say so upfront
😂😂😂😂
Grip stinks with all that baby oil... :'D
@@Swatican lmao
Ky always wears shirts from the kids department
Can’t wait for the day Walther releases a slimline. The F model is the same thickness as the full sized and grip is same height as the compact. Might as well just get the regular compact. F model just has less trigger reach for smaller hands. The day they release a slimline PDP I’ll gladly replace my G48
Kinda oxymoron to make a micro/sub compact with 2 big handed guys. Why not invite guest (especially a female) with smaller hands? The ratings could’ve been so much different on the smaller grip guns. Especially when the most common low rating from Aaron & Kaya was based on a small grip.
Exactly. This test is seriously skewed.
interesting point
That’s a great point. I hope they see this comment and redo this test.
Very well said. I was thinking the same thing just not in that configuration 😂
Lol that was clint and kayde's job
You can get pinky extensions or extended mags with mag sleeves for every single gun you crapped on for having a short grip.. None of them should be deal breakers, lol 😂
Ruger Max 9 - I came into one unexpectedly and really like it. I also really like my 43x
Aaron has slowly persuaded me towards sig.
I carry now a sig x compact.
Used to carry glock 19 or Glock 45
Go back to Glock it's safe
@@Precocktrigger I've dropped it beat on it dropped it dropped it 20 times never went off
@@dougthomas9435 lol ok it's your body my man
Shield Plus all day… the trigger is great, reliable, accurate, and shoots so well!
FN Reflex is my go to SC carry! Shoots amazingly and more comfy to carry than my 509T Mid!
Shield plus comes with a 12 round mag as well and allows you to get a better grip
Shield plus , you don’t have to have a safety, gives you 10 &12. Far better than the 43 (not the 43x) or any other Glock whose sights you glossed over but pointed out on the smith. The trigger is far better that the Glock also
I carry the often-overlooked Mossburg MC2sc in 9mm and the S&W Shield Plus in .30 Super Carry (!), optics-ready with night sights. And since everyone on UA-cam absolutely HATES .30 Super Carry, I picked it up for $299!
Taurus G3C has a long pull and a short reset
Save it .. they biased AF
Thats what i said 🤷🏾
Yall cheated S&W the shield plus has 10-13-15 round mags
If it comes with extended factory mags (Hellcat, Shield Plus, etc.) run them with it or mention it or don't talk about the grip size. Also, if it comes with an Optics Ready version. As most do now, mention it as well.
Shield plus everyday. I dont need a dot. I occasionally rotate in my Hellcat.
I know it's only a .380acp, but I really enjoy my Bersa Thunder 380+. Shoots great and accurately. 15+1. And I can carry it during the warmer months when I wear lighter clothing without printing. Colder months I like my MR version of the P99. Again 15+1, but in 9mm
Fan of your channel, but we differ in what a Micro is. To me a Micro easily fits in my cargo pants/shorts front pocket. The Shield, Glock 43 OG, & Beretta APX Carry (& J frame snub revolvers) are what I rotate to pocket holster carry. It’s concealability, not comfortable grip or fast reload. And that heavy revolver like trigger on the Beretta is a plus when you pocket holster carry & were raised on DA revolver triggers. Good video though.
I agree
Shield plus never gets the love it deserves
Right now I carry a Canik elite sc. great gun . Red dot mounted . Next I’m looking at a 2011. Great triggers no choice made yet. Input from everyone would be awesome. $1500 range
Should of grab the shield plus that's optic cut and the 13 round mag that it comes with Mt wife shoots that gun perfect you guys could have a different opinion
summer carry - Hellcat w/13 rd mag
all other seasons - Glock 19
You can literally get the M&P shield plus without a safety, with a 13 round mag that gives you a better grip, and with optic cut. Y’all scored it negatively for everything that it can come with 😂. This is wild
I carry the Kimber R7 Mako as a micro 9 and love it. It comes with nice night sights, an excellent trigger and shoots great.
I think the Mossberg MC2sc deserves a spot on the table
I edcthe g3c, i love it minus the heavy trigger pull, switch it out with timney triggers and golden
with the glock 26 it helps if you have the pinky extention mag especially if you have medium or large hands
Ok, I get complaints about the grip on the 26. A Pierce pinky floor plate solves that problem. But like you said, right out of the box. So why does the 43x get points for having availability for aftermarket mags? Right out of the box means right out of the box.
One of the most underrated CZ P10sc
Rumor has it that ER nurses watch this channel to fantasize about their arm veins. The best pistol is the one you can afford to buy and train with.
Don’t matter how good the veins are, they’ll still place the IV in the AC - ICU nurse
Sorry, but it sounds like you’re the one that’s fantasizing.
Pause....
It also has to work reliably.... That's pretty damn important.
@@scottnesbit2807who wouldn’t 😉
The absolute best micro compact for price, features, shootability, capacity is without a doubt the Hellcat Pro Comp. I’m a Glock fan, own every Sig and have all the M&P stuff… still gotta respect the Hellcat Pro Comp as the best slimline to date.
I have a GX4 that has a 4.5 pound trigger pull out of the box. The field strip take down is one of the easiest I have seen. My EDC is a Canik TP9sf Elite that is a dream to shoot.
Yep trigger on mine is 4lbs
I do like my S&W CSX. Great little pistol that I carry in my pocket with a pocket holster.
The CSX is very underrated- it’s a very good choice in this category and one of the few that is hammer fired.
Shield plus performance center for life
Walther PDP-F Pro for the win
I know they discontinued it. But the CZ rami is a great sub compact. It's a mini cz 75. Double/ single action, hammer fire, alloy frame. Comes with 10 round and 13 round with extended grip. 3" barrel. The alloy frame gives it a little weight to help the recoil. It definitely should be on the list!
I usually carry a Springfield XDS 9 3.3”, love the feel and weight
Hellcat is awesome, the U notch is legit I’m not sure how people don’t like it. It’s so much easier to pickup accurately than 3 dots.
Interesting I see alot of reviewers other than Honest outlaw say that the shield is snappy. Yet most people say it is the least snappy of all the carry guns without comps.
Sig p365xl appendix. Prints less than my Glock 43 with the +3 mag extensions, and I'm rocking an sig red dot, and some mcarbo trigger kit to bring it to a nice crisp light trigger.
The Shield Arms 15 round mags for the 43x have had so many issues over the years and that’s the last thing I want in the back of my mind while carrying.
Hellcat osp, holosun 507k, tlr-7 sub, apex trigger and carry with 15 round mags. Works well for me. Definitely hard to get a grip with 10 round mag but much better with 13s and 15s
FN Reflex MRD with 13 rds
Seecamp 2" barrel, 11.5 ounces, indestructible, smooth double action a true get-off-me backup micro pistol. Hellcat, 6 inches long, 4 inches high, 1 inch wide, and weighs 17.9-18.6 ounces. I consider a true micro a one-hand pistol, a back-up not a main carry. In general, I really like your videos. This one is just about "small" carry pistols. A chart is a good suggestion.
my springfield xd mod 2 is perfect, flush mag 13+1 extended holds 16. although it says subcompact its more of a micro and its super soft shooting way more than the hellcat
I've got a glock 43x with my big hands i love the size of the frame and it's topped off with a vortex defender ccw
Forgot the Mossberg Mc2sc. 11+1, tritium sights, red dot ready.
I carry the IWI Masada Slim. Good ergonomics 13+1 and can use CZ75 and Jericho mags. Shoots true and not 1 malfunction in 500 rounds so far. And cut for optics.
I have the BBR in .45ACP and I love that little hand cannon! Yeah, carry is rough, it is heavy but it is fun.
As for my EDC, I went with the Hellcat Pro Comp and that is fantastic!
edc is mp shield 9mm but just ordered Sig P365 xmacro. Ran the m&p because it was the best at its time. I wanted the G43 but it’s not on the Ca roster. Thankfully today there’s slot more options for edc.
Of all the Beretta's to include, you did the original Apx carry. Why not the APX A1 compact? If you can do the HK VP9SK and the others that are chunky, give that a try.
So glad the bbr is finally being shown some love
Taurus G3X with a griplaser, Canik MC9 with extended mag and red dot, or Kimber R7 Mako with red dot and 15rd mags, are my favs.
They come with an optic ready, night sight, 3 lb trigger AND a pinky extension in the box… i think i paid $449… and it had a $75 rebate at the time I believe.
You guys should try out the STR9MC Micro. I love that gun.
People sleep on Steoger for sure
I like the glock 26 my pinky does hang off so I just use a longer magazine and the problem is fixed, the gun shoots like a bigger gun it's a good shooter.
Gotta put the HK CC9 now on this list and let us know how it places.
Also the Bodyguard 2.0 would be good even though it’s a .380.
Love my sig365x I carry it everyday, fits my hand great even better with ext. Mag ,love the trigger, conceals great with shorts or pants, and the weight is light can't even feel it's there❤sig
(+1) Also for the Shadow Systems: If you use your Shadow Systems pistol in self-defense in the US, you may temporarily or permanently lose possession of it. If Shadow Systems deems your use justified, they will replace the pistol free of charge. Something Glock doesn't do.
The G3C trigger feels that way because it is double action / has restrike ability.
Guys, for part 2, include a Walther Pdp-F pro 3.5”. I love my standard F but the trigger and well of the pro made it that much better for me!
The HK CC9 literally came out within 2 days of this video. It's a little hard to believe that you didn't know it was coming out based on everyone else having a video about it.
Are these two guys confusing the HK CC9 that was about to be released when this video came out, with the HK SFP9CC? Am I to understand HK is releasing two ‘micro 9s’ in the USA?
If you're not giving full information on the Shield Plus having an optic cut slide for almost a year now and that the Equalizer 15 round mag works in the Plus so you're not limited to a 10 round or 13 round mag... you really DIDN'T "do the leg work" for us.
Thanks anyway.
IMHO, the best micro on the table was the Walther. Handles well, needs nothing. But my pick would be a Beretta PX4 Sub. Sadly, discontinued. A sub that acts like a full size. Hammer fired, chunky girl. But uses f/s mags. 20 rounds if you want. A Bul Axe outshoots that Shadow Systems....At half the price.Buries any Glock..I had an LC9S.. Snappy..But a good striker that'll shoot the crappiest ammo if needed.The Mete is #2.. AWESOME. Maybe best for the price..That Rock Island? Never shot it, but I like it.
The only thing I like about my burnt bronze standard p365 is that now I can get a macro style grip of some sort and get the radian ramjet but besides that I honestly regret it + my slide isn’t cut for a dot. Looking back I wish I would have waited on different ones to come out.
Since you don’t mention it had to be a 9mm. I think the bodyguard 2.0 is a surprisingly easy gun to shoot and the shoot ability per size per cost ratio has it as a definite winner.
Please watch the video for ranking, but here's the time stamps.
Glock 26 2:26 (sub compact)
Glock 43x 3:52 (large format micro compact)
Glock 43 4:55 (micro compact)
S&W shield 9 6:13 (micro compact)
SIG p365xl 8:11 (large format micro compact)
SIG p365 9:42 (micro compact)
Hk vp9sk 12:05 (sub compact)
Walther PDP F 13:58 (compact)
Springfield hellcat 15:13 (micro compact)
Shadow systems cr920 16:45 (micro compact)
Beretta apx a1 carry 18:43 (sub compact)
Ruger lc9s 21:12 (micro compact)
Sar9 sc 22:06 (sub compact)
Canik mete mc9 23:35 (micro compact)
Taurus gx4 25:58 (micro compact)
Taurus g3c 27:32 (sub compact)
FN reflex 28:58 (micro compact)
Rock Island armory BBR 30:28 (sub compact)
Thanks the clarification and explanation.
Since you had the p365 and 365xl, I think you should have had the Shield Plus and the Carry Comp/ Performance center by Smith. I think that Carry Comp is something special. 😊 thanks for all you are doing, and Keep banging!
I carry the Hellcat OSP, why was it not in the list. The hellcat is very accurate and it is a great carry gun. it's not a competition gun, but as a carry gun it is an outstanding gun. It didn't even make your list. wow.
It was on the list 😂 maybe not the osp but they shot a hellcat. Avg score like 6.5.
@@joshuaclark3414 i must not have been paying attention. I have shot many different micro pistols. So far this is my favorite.
@@EricQuinn 15:16 bro! 🫣😁
@@davidhudson2527 thanks I found it. I still do not know why the glock ranks better than the hellcat. I can shoot 1 inch groups t 10 yards with mine…the tigger while not competition…its good and deliberate for an edc gun.