Its' great to see the shop with an online presence, BC shaver has been a fixture it Vic for so long! Good idea for a shootout, thanks for the effort of putting this video together. I have the DB Pro (very similar to the lazernut) and am really impressed with the handling and durability.
Thanks! I definitely agree with that choice - the Ryft is very capable on the rocks, but it's just too fast for its own good. The Lasernut is a much better all-around vehicle out of the box.
Great video on both vehicles. The best way I've found to limit the twisting under hard acceleration on the Ryft is to put another set of shockies in the rear. The bolt holes are already there so it's a symbol installation
I heard they have problems with difs and driveshafts. Have u had any issues? How long have u owned it and do u run it hard? Im thinking of getting a lasernut just wanting sum advice. Im looking for something that can take a little abuse. Thanks
You should do another comparison after upgrades, maybe give the ryft a sway bar and do something tasteful to the losi and put them both on 4s and do it again in the gravel
If you run the Lasernut on 3s you're supposed to switch the pinion to the 14t included with it. 12t pinion comes installed from the factory. Makes a big difference.
The Rock Rey isn't quite a baby. It's the best of both worlds packed into one. It's a shame it's been discontinued because after having bought my brother one a few years ago, and seeing what it's capable of and durability, I decided to get one, but too late. Can't even find a unboxed one anywhere.
Great video! I think the comparison is a bit strange, being so different rigs, rock bouncer vs racer. Bouncers should never be near a flat surface. They jump like a mountain goat.
The breaks are incredibly easy to adjust. From factory it has 25% power, one level up you get 50% which is already way more then needed. I actually wish this thing had a 35%-40% ration. In any case, reviewer, do a propper job and RTFM next time, it's on page 3.
@@grantmckendry3323 You also missed "ration" should have been ratio. Do a better job grammar nazi-ing next time, while I work on the 3rd language I can speak, english.
Mine is really top heavy and wants to flip if turning even at lower speeds. The “550” size motor seems really skinny and long but maybe it’s just the size of the thing that makes it seem that way. The body is cool but I wish it would lock up. Maybe it does and I just haven’t figured it out yet. My option for what it’s worth. I love the light bars because after work when I usually get time to break it out it’s dark so that’s cool.
In a way, they are, but there's definitely some overlap. I'd say they're more like two different approaches to the same end goal, a vehicle that's fast but can also crawl. The Lasernut definitely leans more towards the speed end of that spectrum, though, while the Ryft is more optimized for crawling.
So I bought an Axial Bomber 2.0 last summer but just started driving it couple months ago after slowly upgrading parts on it(Incision links, aluminum rear trailing arms, additional piggyback rear shocks, Currie sway bar and a cool aluminum bead lock wheels) After all that I thing I'm very disappointed in it, it looks cool though but not fast. I think I have to upgrade to brushless for it. I can take it crawling along with my TRX-4 Defender in my channel here but it won't keep up with my Arrma Senton. So my question is...should I keep the Bomber and spend more upgrading it or sell it and get the Lasernut. I like the buggy style and independent suspensions, the Ryft doesn't appeal to me that much it's what the Bomber should have been. Thanks let me know what you think.
If you're planning on driving it fast, I would get the Lasernut. I haven't driven a brushless Bomber, but it seems to me like it would drive a lot like the Ryft, since it has live-axle suspension and a relatively high center of gravity. There isn't really any good way to make a live-axle vehicle handle well at speed - that's what independent suspension is for. The Lasernut has a lower center of gravity (and sway bars), is a breeze to drive at high speed, and still has enough articulation to keep up with most crawlers. The braking issue can be fixed by changing the ESC settings. (According to the manual, it's only set to 25% from the factory.) It's up to you, of course, but it sounds like the Lasernut is closer to what you want than a further upgraded Bomber. Just my 2 cents. :)
@@bchobbies Thanks that helps a lot, good advice from a fellow Vancouver Islander like you(I'm from Nanaimo)...tonight I'm listing my Axial Bomber for sale, looking it it looks cool with my upgrades but I like my TRX-4 for crawling and my Summit is great at crawling too sometimes better than my Defender. Once the Bomber is sold I'll buy the Lasernut and drive with my Senton. Thanks again.
Sweet video can you make one for the losi tenacity tt pro 4wd sct brushless rtr with smart. The falken one lol im between the tenacity and the lasernut they're bolth so cool but i can't decide
Both the TT Pro and the Lasernut are based on the same platform, and use most of the same internal parts. Driving performance between them should be very similar. Which one you get will mostly depend on whether you prefer the look of a short course truck or an open-wheel buggy.
Lol old comment but they drive so so different. The TT is a racer, is very planted great on a track. The Lasernut sits higher and will traction roll and doesn't handle as well as the TT coz it's made for a different application.
The main reason selling point for me was the DX3 controller which for some stupid reason they make you buy the Bluetooth module which goes into the controller. How dumb is that. Just charge the extra 20 bucks and put it in there guys come on!!
I feel this isn't very accurate as I have seen and rode in the 1-1 lazernut and went to a bouncer race the rift is supposed to go up steep hills with a lot of speed while the lazernut is built to crawl and go fast on the more flat areas if you want to see this stuff in person the lazernut races at the king of the hammers it is a big event with many races and is a good deal of fun
I'm guessing the R/C Lasernut differs a bit from the real thing because it's based on Losi's existing Tenacity buggy platform. It wouldn't surprise me if it's better at going fast on the rocks (and worse at low-speed crawling) than its full-size counterpart.
Really want to like the Ryft but can't. Too many flaws and if to spend thousand dollars to make it run right is the stupidest project I could think of.
I can tell you from personal ownership of a Losi Lazernut no way you got near an hour on a 3s lipo...... Now that said on 4s you will get near an hour the way your running it 😂
Hmm.. That Ryft must be from a later batch, since nothing seems to have broken, while other people broke the front axle on the slightest provocation.. And the omission of a swaybar makes the Ryft absolutely terrible at anything resembling speed. Booh, Axial! With a rear sway It becomes quite a bit more controllable. Also lowering the stance by placing ca. 1.5cm springs or tubing under the pistons helps immensely ,and doesn't really influence its exellent climbing ability.
I hadn't heard about the front axle problem, but we had no issues with this one. I was actually quite impressed - there were a couple of impacts that I expected to break something, but it all held together fine.
@@bchobbies it's been a huge letdown the ryft. it's happening to almost everyone the front axle housing is weak and breaking and a few other things that I know for sure mine has been a waist of money so far just sitting broken with no parts available since release and I want the lasernut but unfortunately at this point it looks like that has even more problems some say the worst RC they have ever bought but I can't say from experience just what others are saying about the lasernut sorry to be so negative but I want them to be great just not what I've found
@@thomasthetankengine7153 I only had them to test for a few days, so I can't speak for reliability. It's a shame to hear so many people have had problems with them. Unfortunately, I have noticed that Horizon Hobby's quality control has not been the best lately, so I can't say I'm all that surprised.
That's how long it lasted for us, but to be fair, a lot of that time was spent crawling around on the rocks at relatively low speed. If you're bashing it at higher speeds, it won't last as long.
Its' great to see the shop with an online presence, BC shaver has been a fixture it Vic for so long! Good idea for a shootout, thanks for the effort of putting this video together. I have the DB Pro (very similar to the lazernut) and am really impressed with the handling and durability.
Thank you for the review. I was thinking about the Ryft, but now I am thinking more about the Lasernut. Excellent photography, great job!
Thanks! I definitely agree with that choice - the Ryft is very capable on the rocks, but it's just too fast for its own good. The Lasernut is a much better all-around vehicle out of the box.
This is a well put together video. Good job. Wouldn't mind seeing a similar format comparing the Lasernut and the Rustler Ulimate or VXL. 👍
Great video on both vehicles.
The best way I've found to limit the twisting under hard acceleration on the Ryft is to put another set of shockies in the rear. The bolt holes are already there so it's a symbol installation
Lasernut 100% I have one and its awesome..get one!!
I heard they have problems with difs and driveshafts. Have u had any issues? How long have u owned it and do u run it hard? Im thinking of getting a lasernut just wanting sum advice. Im looking for something that can take a little abuse. Thanks
I personally like the look of the ryft better, I plan on modding the heck out of it.
Rbx son all day
You can adjust the brake rate on the esc programming.
Yep, I checked the manual after filming. The brake rate is set at only 25% out of the box.
@@bchobbies big difference once you turn em up. locks the wheels up
Another great review by the best hobby shop
This was a great review. You Cannucks really do stuff right up there in the GWN.
You should do another comparison after upgrades, maybe give the ryft a sway bar and do something tasteful to the losi and put them both on 4s and do it again in the gravel
If you run the Lasernut on 3s you're supposed to switch the pinion to the 14t included with it. 12t pinion comes installed from the factory. Makes a big difference.
Wow, great video and excellent video quality. I’m subscribing right now.
Get the spektrum ESC programmer, $30 you can change, punch, motor timing, off throttle braking and brake % takes just minutes to adjust.
Good simple comparison.
Thank you!
The driving video is cool.👍👍
Thank you for sharing a great video.
Have a good day. 💪😊💪
excellent video thanks I never seen these vehicles compared side-by-side both of them are awesome
So I think the Rock Rey would be the Baby if these two...
Need him in the video too for a fair comparison of rock racer bouncers
The Rock Rey isn't quite a baby. It's the best of both worlds packed into one. It's a shame it's been discontinued because after having bought my brother one a few years ago, and seeing what it's capable of and durability, I decided to get one, but too late. Can't even find a unboxed one anywhere.
@@SebastianLong there are some for sale here in Ontario Canada Market Place.
Both look super fun! Great vid
Great video! I think the comparison is a bit strange, being so different rigs, rock bouncer vs racer. Bouncers should never be near a flat surface. They jump like a mountain goat.
Great job Micheal! Keep up the great work!
The breaks are incredibly easy to adjust. From factory it has 25% power, one level up you get 50% which is already way more then needed. I actually wish this thing had a 35%-40% ration.
In any case, reviewer, do a propper job and RTFM next time, it's on page 3.
Brakes not 'breaks'. Proper not 'propper'. Next time do a better job on your spelling.
@@grantmckendry3323 You also missed "ration" should have been ratio. Do a better job grammar nazi-ing next time, while I work on the 3rd language I can speak, english.
Thanks!
Mine is really top heavy and wants to flip if turning even at lower speeds. The “550” size motor seems really skinny and long but maybe it’s just the size of the thing that makes it seem that way. The body is cool but I wish it would lock up. Maybe it does and I just haven’t figured it out yet. My option for what it’s worth. I love the light bars because after work when I usually get time to break it out it’s dark so that’s cool.
Sorry I keep saying “mine”. I got the losi lasernut
Great video, very good comparison.
Compliment! really good very professional video! thanks for that
What if you turned the shokies around and put weights in the wheels on the Ryft? Do you think that would give it moor stability?
Hello,
Nice vidéo.
Very nice spot 🤘
What's the best for smooth run finaly ?
But aren’t they two different types of RCs? For different purposes? Just asking.
In a way, they are, but there's definitely some overlap. I'd say they're more like two different approaches to the same end goal, a vehicle that's fast but can also crawl. The Lasernut definitely leans more towards the speed end of that spectrum, though, while the Ryft is more optimized for crawling.
So I bought an Axial Bomber 2.0 last summer but just started driving it couple months ago after slowly upgrading parts on it(Incision links, aluminum rear trailing arms, additional piggyback rear shocks, Currie sway bar and a cool aluminum bead lock wheels)
After all that I thing I'm very disappointed in it, it looks cool though but not fast.
I think I have to upgrade to brushless for it. I can take it crawling along with my TRX-4 Defender in my channel here but it won't keep up with my Arrma Senton.
So my question is...should I keep the Bomber and spend more upgrading it or sell it and get the Lasernut. I like the buggy style and independent suspensions, the Ryft doesn't appeal to me that much it's what the Bomber should have been. Thanks let me know what you think.
If you're planning on driving it fast, I would get the Lasernut. I haven't driven a brushless Bomber, but it seems to me like it would drive a lot like the Ryft, since it has live-axle suspension and a relatively high center of gravity. There isn't really any good way to make a live-axle vehicle handle well at speed - that's what independent suspension is for.
The Lasernut has a lower center of gravity (and sway bars), is a breeze to drive at high speed, and still has enough articulation to keep up with most crawlers. The braking issue can be fixed by changing the ESC settings. (According to the manual, it's only set to 25% from the factory.)
It's up to you, of course, but it sounds like the Lasernut is closer to what you want than a further upgraded Bomber. Just my 2 cents. :)
@@bchobbies Thanks that helps a lot, good advice from a fellow Vancouver Islander like you(I'm from Nanaimo)...tonight I'm listing my Axial Bomber for sale, looking it it looks cool with my upgrades but I like my TRX-4 for crawling and my Summit is great at crawling too sometimes better than my Defender. Once the Bomber is sold I'll buy the Lasernut and drive with my Senton. Thanks again.
@@flat-out No problem!
Get a drag car! Bomber isn't supposed to be fast.
@@Art-zs6sl no I don't want a road vehicle, I'm getting a Lasernut I want a fast off road rig, faster and better handling than the bomber.
Did that rift have the rear sway bar? That is a must for them to be drivable.
I don't believe so. That would definitely help a lot.
I will take both of them
Did you do any mods to the ryft?
Nope, both vehicles are box stock.
37 Ryfts were destroyed in the making of this video.
Due to budget restrictions, we had to flip the same one 37 times. ;)
The lasernut handles better on the sand
Sweet video can you make one for the losi tenacity tt pro 4wd sct brushless rtr with smart. The falken one lol im between the tenacity and the lasernut they're bolth so cool but i can't decide
Both the TT Pro and the Lasernut are based on the same platform, and use most of the same internal parts. Driving performance between them should be very similar. Which one you get will mostly depend on whether you prefer the look of a short course truck or an open-wheel buggy.
Lol old comment but they drive so so different. The TT is a racer, is very planted great on a track. The Lasernut sits higher and will traction roll and doesn't handle as well as the TT coz it's made for a different application.
The main reason selling point for me was the DX3 controller which for some stupid reason they make you buy the Bluetooth module which goes into the controller. How dumb is that. Just charge the extra 20 bucks and put it in there guys come on!!
Will a dx4c transmitter pair to it?
It should theoretically, but not having tried it, I can't say for sure.
Great video bro. New subscriber here
I feel this isn't very accurate as I have seen and rode in the 1-1 lazernut and went to a bouncer race the rift is supposed to go up steep hills with a lot of speed while the lazernut is built to crawl and go fast on the more flat areas if you want to see this stuff in person the lazernut races at the king of the hammers it is a big event with many races and is a good deal of fun
I'm guessing the R/C Lasernut differs a bit from the real thing because it's based on Losi's existing Tenacity buggy platform. It wouldn't surprise me if it's better at going fast on the rocks (and worse at low-speed crawling) than its full-size counterpart.
Really want to like the Ryft but can't. Too many flaws and if to spend thousand dollars to make it run right is the stupidest project I could think of.
Sadly, I have to agree. It's good on the rocks, but that doesn't make up for its flaws in other areas. The Lasernut is a much better vehicle overall.
How fast is it on 3s?
We didn't clock the speed, but most 4S vehicles reach around 35 to 40 MPH on 3S.
After watching this video I now know why people are constantly bringing rc vehicles in for repairs and replacement parts.
What a strange comment.
Where is the Yeti or the Rock Rey. Better battle. Great video too though! EH
Rock Rey is discontinued and hard to find anywhere.
The yetis are all gone too, been gone for a while :(
@@jerryrocketandthegogogirls3517 Not sure why Horizon Hobbies discontinues so many models. Ive got 4 discontinued models, my brother has 3.
I can tell you from personal ownership of a Losi Lazernut no way you got near an hour on a 3s lipo...... Now that said on 4s you will get near an hour the way your running it 😂
Hmm.. That Ryft must be from a later batch, since nothing seems to have broken, while other people broke the front axle on the slightest provocation.. And the omission of a swaybar makes the Ryft absolutely terrible at anything resembling speed. Booh, Axial! With a rear sway It becomes quite a bit more controllable. Also lowering the stance by placing ca. 1.5cm springs or tubing under the pistons helps immensely ,and doesn't really influence its exellent climbing ability.
I hadn't heard about the front axle problem, but we had no issues with this one. I was actually quite impressed - there were a couple of impacts that I expected to break something, but it all held together fine.
@@bchobbies it's been a huge letdown the ryft. it's happening to almost everyone the front axle housing is weak and breaking and a few other things that I know for sure mine has been a waist of money so far just sitting broken with no parts available since release and I want the lasernut but unfortunately at this point it looks like that has even more problems some say the worst RC they have ever bought but I can't say from experience just what others are saying about the lasernut sorry to be so negative but I want them to be great just not what I've found
@@thomasthetankengine7153 I only had them to test for a few days, so I can't speak for reliability. It's a shame to hear so many people have had problems with them. Unfortunately, I have noticed that Horizon Hobby's quality control has not been the best lately, so I can't say I'm all that surprised.
Kevin talbolt has the solution,he has a video fiixing that problem for the Rift..
rift sucks to many issues sold mine
Oxygen hoses lmao you mean helmet A/C or fresh air
close to 1hr runtime on a 5000mah? yeah, doubt it.
That's how long it lasted for us, but to be fair, a lot of that time was spent crawling around on the rocks at relatively low speed. If you're bashing it at higher speeds, it won't last as long.
Would like to see the Lasernut head-2-head with the DR8 - ua-cam.com/video/Efly4Lw2m5Y/v-deo.html
Are you filming in connecticut it looks like new england
Nope, this was filmed at Mount Douglas Park in Victoria, British Columbia, Canada.