Damn I’ve been wrenching for 50 years and didn’t know that trick, makes common sense though (I obviously lack). I once sold an RX-7 because of that and I couldn’t get at the clutch disc. Oh well, you’re still teaching me things. Happy New Year Scott!
This reminds me of a time when I washed my car with a garden hose, and the disc brake rotors got soaked... I stupidly didn't bother driving the car after to burn off the water from the discs. Car was parked for a couple of weeks. You guessed it, a good layer of rust formed on the rotors and the brakes got stuck / dragged... live and learn!
I remember having a car with the friction plate rusted to the flywheel. Thankfully a classic Mini is much lighter than a bus, so I could start it in first and it would bunnyhop and chug for a moment , then take off. After that, I just pressed in the clutch pedal, then got on and off the throttle jerkily while ambling around in 1st at around 15mph. Fortunately, that's all the momentum it needed in my case.
Sometimes have gotten that to work on old tractors, but quickly on and off the brake to let the drivetrain wind up and release. Love the bus AND the two stroke.
We use to tie the clutch open on our old Harley's if stored for very long . I really like your old school bus nothing computer just a whole lot of manual mussels needed to drive /repair/maintain , HA!!!
I have enjoyed you videos on bus restoration. It brings me back when I as a kid 60+ years ago riding Trailways Silver Eagles from NE Bama to Mississippi and Texas. Lenny has been my favorite project to watch so far. It is a classic beauty that I can't wait to see the final work on it. The last one I found was 5 months ago. Do you have more in works? I also enjoy the music at the end. Who produced the music?
I had that happen on a Dodge pick up, I was lucky I had parked on a hill. I put the transmission in neutral started the engine let it run for about 20 minutes. Released the parking brake, as it rolled I got the transmission in 1st gear. I would accelerate back off the throttle, while holding the clutch pedal to the floor then get back on the and the clutch disc broke loose. Only happened after driving through rain
It's pretty common for clutches to rust up on semi trucks. Most of the time I have experienced that problem is on semi trucks that have been sitting for many years and I am unable to run the engine. In those instances I find someone to wedge the clutch pedal down then I pull the drive line and put a piece of solid steel round bar through the yoke where the u joint goes and I use either a hydraulic jack or a hydraulic port a power. The longer that the bar extends away from the center line of the transmission output the better mechanical advantage.
Have the same issue with my 52 Chevy pick up every second year or so when bringing it out of storage in the spring. Usually start it in gear then a few good hits with the brake with clutch pedal down and it breaks free. This usually occurs after is has sat from early November to mid May. Guess i should just go and start it every month or so!!
Plug that hole for access to the flywheel before you spray it with water again. 😂 Last year I drove my Golf through a deep bit of water and parked it five minutes later. That was a mistake. The next morning, my clutch was acting the same way. Good thing I parked in a hill. Was able to roll fast enough to get the clutch to unstuck when I applied the brakes. Lesson learned. Next time, I'll spin the motor fast to get the water off the clutch before shutting down overnight.
I have this happen often on an old Ford backhoe. It's easy. Drop the legs down and lift the drive wheels. Start in high gear. Build some kinetic energy in those wheels then hit both brakes and the clutch at the same time. If the motor keeps an running the clutch is free. This happens after it sits a long time.
Ahhhhhh! What would we do without moisture in the wrong places to test our ingenuity? Suffered the same problem a couple of times on different Brit trucks. Luckily they had a bottom bell housing cover panel that allowed just enough access to release the pressure plate bolts enough to gently turn and prize the clutch lining off the flywheel without compromising the rivets or lining material. Guess when it rains so much here the engineers think of these things. Maybe.
Happened to me before I knew what the clip that holds the clutch pedal down was for. Tractor didn't have the power to break it loose though so I put the tiller on the 3-point, spun it up then dropped it in the dirt with the clutch depressed
Well I think nine out of 10 people on here has have it happen to them... but I got in there with the pressure washer... and then next thing you know I couldn't get it in gear while it was running so... 😅😂
with the bus facing forward in the garage towards the living quarters, Scott was understandably hesitant to gun it in 4th and have it slip off the jack........
So things do break when not being used😀 I know it wasn’t really broke. It’s an old farmer saying around here that stuff doesn’t break when going leave it in the shed
My unsolicited input would be to use the highest possible gear, all the better to put more strain on the clutch when the brakes are hit... yeah, I know, nobody asked !!
If you hold the brake, it won't move forward. I did this on a Volvo and the starter bogged down a bit and the clutch broke loose. No movement of the car .@@stanpatterson5033
Damn I’ve been wrenching for 50 years and didn’t know that trick, makes common sense though (I obviously lack). I once sold an RX-7 because of that and I couldn’t get at the clutch disc. Oh well, you’re still teaching me things. Happy New Year Scott!
Lenny is the sweetest looking bus around. I'll have to remember that trick. I hope you all have a very blessed 2024.
Love watching and listening to Lenny. Road trip due!
This reminds me of a time when I washed my car with a garden hose, and the disc brake rotors got soaked... I stupidly didn't bother driving the car after to burn off the water from the discs. Car was parked for a couple of weeks. You guessed it, a good layer of rust formed on the rotors and the brakes got stuck / dragged... live and learn!
Lenny is looking good Scott! Mr. Loewy was a master with design.
As the saying goes, "no good deed goes unpunished". 😊 It makes sense that the bath caused the sticking.
I remember having a car with the friction plate rusted to the flywheel. Thankfully a classic Mini is much lighter than a bus, so I could start it in first and it would bunnyhop and chug for a moment , then take off. After that, I just pressed in the clutch pedal, then got on and off the throttle jerkily while ambling around in 1st at around 15mph. Fortunately, that's all the momentum it needed in my case.
I had My clutch disc melt on flywheel after some launches. Started on 1st gear clutch down and pumped gas pedal disc Broke free and i was happy
You can start that bus in gear and take off if you want..
This has happened with my old Holt T-35 tractor. Great fun to deal deal with alone on a hand cranked machine.
That’s a cool tractor model.
@@BusGreaseMonkey It's the smallest Caterpillar ever made.
To me it looks like a turtle out of its shell… but for a tank
Crazy!!! I would have never thought it would rust and stick that fast!!!
Sometimes have gotten that to work on old tractors, but quickly on and off the brake to let the drivetrain wind up and release. Love the bus AND the two stroke.
Unmistakable when it broke free. Nice.
Lenny's telling you he needs a long road trip Scott so he can stretch his old bones.
Lenny is looking absolutly beutiful😊
Happy New Year to everyone, Lenny looks real Good outside in the Sunlight. Now it looks good as it runs.
We use to tie the clutch open on our old Harley's if stored for very long . I really like your old school bus nothing computer just a whole lot of manual mussels needed to drive /repair/maintain , HA!!!
Oz did such a good job on cleaning up Lenny
Great morning when your videos pop up, Lol. Thanks Scott.
Scott, I heard you're wife asking you to get an exhaust vent hose hooked to Lenny! Keep that "doghouse " fresh !😊
I hope I NEVER need to used that technique, but it is great to know. Thanks
Wow, he looks like a whole new bus! Excellent job!
I didn't think we'd have any repairs in common, but I had to do the same thing with my MGB. Turned out about the same.
Thank you for sharing Scott!!
Paint really looks great!
I have enjoyed you videos on bus restoration. It brings me back when I as a kid 60+ years ago riding Trailways Silver Eagles from NE Bama to Mississippi and Texas. Lenny has been my favorite project to watch so far. It is a classic beauty that I can't wait to see the final work on it. The last one I found was 5 months ago. Do you have more in works? I also enjoy the music at the end. Who produced the music?
I had that happen on a Dodge pick up, I was lucky I had parked on a hill. I put the transmission in neutral started the engine let it run for about 20 minutes. Released the parking brake, as it rolled I got the transmission in 1st gear. I would accelerate back off the throttle, while holding the clutch pedal to the floor then get back on the and the clutch disc broke loose. Only happened after driving through rain
It's pretty common for clutches to rust up on semi trucks. Most of the time I have experienced that problem is on semi trucks that have been sitting for many years and I am unable to run the engine. In those instances I find someone to wedge the clutch pedal down then I pull the drive line and put a piece of solid steel round bar through the yoke where the u joint goes and I use either a hydraulic jack or a hydraulic port a power. The longer that the bar extends away from the center line of the transmission output the better mechanical advantage.
Have the same issue with my 52 Chevy pick up every second year or so when bringing it out of storage in the spring. Usually start it in gear then a few good hits with the brake with clutch pedal down and it breaks free. This usually occurs after is has sat from early November to mid May. Guess i should just go and start it every month or so!!
The truth is the bus likes the
Workshop warm and dry ! 😊
Plug that hole for access to the flywheel before you spray it with water again. 😂
Last year I drove my Golf through a deep bit of water and parked it five minutes later. That was a mistake. The next morning, my clutch was acting the same way. Good thing I parked in a hill. Was able to roll fast enough to get the clutch to unstuck when I applied the brakes. Lesson learned. Next time, I'll spin the motor fast to get the water off the clutch before shutting down overnight.
I had a tractor with the clutch stuck,much worse, I drilled a small hole in the bell housing to wedge it apart.
Happy New Year!!
Happy new year bus grease monkey and family
I have this happen often on an old Ford backhoe. It's easy. Drop the legs down and lift the drive wheels. Start in high gear. Build some kinetic energy in those wheels then hit both brakes and the clutch at the same time. If the motor keeps an running the clutch is free. This happens after it sits a long time.
learn something new every day!
If you can access the flywheel thru the bell housing either dry ice or a co2 fire extinguisher give it a good blast.
You must work a job where you are not the one paying for stuff. A co2 fire extinguisher costs over $200. $2 in diesel and 5 minutes it was fixed.
Poor Oz. He gets blamed for everything
His engine looks so nice. It’s a curse
Your plan worked!
Without breaking anything.
Lenny looks awesome!!! :)
keep the clips coming
I seen a guy on you tube use an air hammer to vibrate it, but that was on a truck. The channel was old 2 stroker
Ahhhhhh! What would we do without moisture in the wrong places to test our ingenuity? Suffered the same problem a couple of times on different Brit trucks. Luckily they had a bottom bell housing cover panel that allowed just enough access to release the pressure plate bolts enough to gently turn and prize the clutch lining off the flywheel without compromising the rivets or lining material. Guess when it rains so much here the engineers think of these things. Maybe.
that happens to my tractor over winter. I always go right to 4th high to break it loose
put something heavy on the clutch pedal when you park it
@@transdimensionalist Will that do the return spring any good, being stretched out for potentially months of non-use?
Happened to me before I knew what the clip that holds the clutch pedal down was for. Tractor didn't have the power to break it loose though so I put the tiller on the 3-point, spun it up then dropped it in the dirt with the clutch depressed
Happy New Year
Jog my memory, how did an engine wash get the clutch rusted closed? Aren’t they in housings for just this reason?
There are inspection openings and water gets in easily
@@BusGreaseMonkey thank you much sir
Well I think nine out of 10 people on here has have it happen to them... but I got in there with the pressure washer... and then next thing you know I couldn't get it in gear while it was running so... 😅😂
Rocking it back n forth in low gear or reverse will also pop a stuck clutch plate loose.
Try an air chisel, might be able to adjust, free up the clutch
Ya when do this it is best to use 3rd gear or higher 1st and 2nd have too much torque multiplication and it will be harder to break the clutch free.
It sounded like that was the plan eventually, but to work up to it.
with the bus facing forward in the garage towards the living quarters, Scott was understandably hesitant to gun it in 4th and have it slip off the jack........
Nice trick 👌
I have a 85 Ford that does the same all I do to you is get it on the asphalt road and hold a clutch in and gun it it comes right
Ive had this issue with my geared tractor. Now i park it with the clutch locked in a disengaged state.
So things do break when not being used😀 I know it wasn’t really broke. It’s an old farmer saying around here that stuff doesn’t break when going leave it in the shed
Hold the idle. Up Damn
Thought you were going to take Lenny out for a ride up the hill and back.
Had an old Ford 600 tractor that I had to bump into a tree to free up the rusted clutch to flywheel problem.
I guess the tree had little or nothing to say about this practice ?
I hope you took the bus out for a run. To help get the rust spots polished off the flywheel. Get it back to shiny dry.
We are planning a run with Lenny later this week.
@@BusGreaseMonkey get oz to do a couple of clutch dumps for you. that will get the flywheel shining. ;)
wash mechanical stuff with mineral spirits and the air sprayer from harbor freight.
Lenny has no reverse lights?
1947 they were not a thing
No more showers for Lenny
Surprised you don’t use exhaust tubing to vent the exhaust out of your shop.
Would you rebuild my 6-71 Detroit
For me if I bring to you
Scott when ya gonna put some polished aluminum wheels on lenny?
You should look closer at the video. And we actually did a whole video on it when we put aluminum wheels on him
yea i think ya buffed them out.@@BusGreaseMonkey
Saturated the components. Blow it off next time with the air nozzle
My unsolicited input would be to use the highest possible gear, all the better to put more strain on the clutch when the brakes are hit... yeah, I know, nobody asked !!
Good way to break something. I worked my way up slowly. My driveshaft is only like 1.5” in diameter. It looks like a piece of conduit. 1947
@@BusGreaseMonkey Yes, well, there is that!! :-) :-)
Had the same problem ! Get a crow bar , and pry the shit out of it! It will brake loose
Didn’t work. 1st thing i tried.
It took me about 45 minutes but it broke loose!
Another way is push clutch pedal, hold brake and start engine in gear.
Tried it the bus was lurching forward. I didn’t need it google the the wall
I think that was supposed to be "I didn't need it to go through the wall", although, hey... it's your wall, if you want to google it....
If you hold the brake, it won't move forward. I did this on a Volvo and the starter bogged down a bit and the clutch broke loose. No movement of the car .@@stanpatterson5033
Judo!
That had to be annoying!
She don't like to be put away clean