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  • Опубліковано 14 чер 2024
  • In this episode, we talked about our POOR FINANCIAL DECISIONS and how we manage to overcome them!
    If you are planning to have a convo with your partner, here’s the sheet you can download and reference to help with that conversation! IT’S FREE OK!!!
    docs.google.com/document/d/1d...
    If you would like a PART 2 about financing as a couple, let us know in the comments!
    Much love,
    John & Pat
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    Our Socials:
    John - / johnathanchua
    Pat - / patrinathy
    #johnpatcross
    00:00:00 Opening up to each other about our debt
    00:05:46 How Pat helped me out of my credit card debt
    00:08:34 How Upbringing shapes our views on money
    00:13:19 We got into debt AGAIN!
    00:21:12 Why Financial Fidelity is so important (Worksheet Provided)

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  • @RPB231980
    @RPB231980 6 місяців тому +70

    100% would love to see more content from both of you in general, and on this topic in particular. Grateful to your openness and vulnerability, making these topics safer to talk about openly and in a lovingly honest way.

  • @redwings1974
    @redwings1974 6 місяців тому +21

    Never let financial issues break a marriage. Always communicate and support each other. For a couple, best to be transparent and honest. Building a marriage is not a 1 personal task, its a team work. Its how 2 parties come together to make it work and work it out.

  • @shaneboey4261
    @shaneboey4261 5 місяців тому +20

    Very insightful! When I was 27-28, I was in $78k debt. I’m 29 now and cleared my debt. 😉

    • @charmainechin9249
      @charmainechin9249 5 місяців тому

      was it credit card debt?

    • @shaneboey4261
      @shaneboey4261 5 місяців тому

      @@charmainechin9249 Hi, yes it was. ☺️

    • @fair278
      @fair278 2 місяці тому

      How did u do that in a span of 2 years?

    • @shaneboey4261
      @shaneboey4261 29 днів тому

      @@fair278Change your lifestyle, and learn new skills like trading or investing for additional income.

    • @shaneboey4261
      @shaneboey4261 29 днів тому

      @@charmainechin9249Yes it was 😢

  • @kylieng4617
    @kylieng4617 6 місяців тому +16

    Really really thankful for you sharing this with everyone, I am in my early 20s and recently I open up to my partner that money had been really tight and I feel so stuck and trapped not being able to thrive in life and just surviving. And he came out and talk ABT how he can help and that we are a team moving forward. Now we both try our best to educate ourselves on financial planning and how to stretch that dollar

  • @alonso86
    @alonso86 6 місяців тому +1

    I just appreciate that when you all share, it just feels genuine. Thank you for your sharing

  • @cindytan9538
    @cindytan9538 6 місяців тому +12

    I agree with both of you. I am in my early 30s with 2 young children. My husband and myself doesn't believe in impressing others.
    When we got married 6 years ago, everyone did fancy weddings. We both decided we worked hard and save hard. So we decided we want a small wedding, a small church wedding with buffet. That's it. We want a family, so we say get married then means have a baby soon later.
    We emptied our bank savings on that small wedding without getting parents help and house renovation. We took a small bank loan of 25k, finish paying it within a year and shortly welcome our first kid. Until today, we are still happy to do a small wedding without impressing people. Wedding is a day, marriage a lifetime. So end of the day, no need to impress people one lah haha
    Today, we continue to save up for retirement and children education.

  • @belletan30
    @belletan30 5 місяців тому +2

    My favorite video is about couple finance because you all are very transparent and insightful. It is important to be financially literate because without it, regardless of how much money we have, it will be spent on unnecessary stuff. Today, I learned about balance transfers as it will help us a that time being. Most importantly, you teach us how much we need to save and not rely on future money like credit cards. Please share more of such video and thank you for always sharing ❤

  • @manoffocusindeed7613
    @manoffocusindeed7613 6 місяців тому +13

    I was thinking why was the quality so low, then I realised youtube probably hasnt rendered the 1080p... 😆

  • @KimiLovesYouxoxo
    @KimiLovesYouxoxo 6 місяців тому +6

    y’all might never have kids but y’all are my mom and dad ok. thank u I download already!!!

    • @JOHNPATCROSS
      @JOHNPATCROSS  6 місяців тому

      AWWWWWWW 🥹 Thank you! 🫶🏻
      - Pat

  • @theodorekoh4963
    @theodorekoh4963 5 місяців тому +2

    Rly felt "assured" in the sense that it made me self aware of the "ego spending" part so that both me and my partner can look good on paper, and that Im gradually changing this habit of mine.

  • @tonytan1662
    @tonytan1662 6 місяців тому +16

    Both of you shared things besides being financial healthy, where communications and acceptance plays a big part of it. Its a great sharing and appreciate you guys being brave in bringing this up. Look forward to more sharing and I feel this video very beneficial. Looking forward to more content like this. ^_^

  • @Tofuhusky
    @Tofuhusky 6 місяців тому +2

    part two! very relatable thankful for this

  • @WilSketches
    @WilSketches 6 місяців тому +3

    Thank you so much Jon and Pat! Could really really relate to myself with both of you! Even my own r/s dynamics are quite similar! Thank you for sharing all these lessons to strangers like us 😊🙏🏻

  • @nf7694
    @nf7694 5 місяців тому +2

    as someone who's been happily swiping credit cards for the future me to deal with, this has been a slap in the face for me to wake up. thanks for the very open video.

  • @RaphJonathanTan
    @RaphJonathanTan 6 місяців тому +4

    another real talk from a real couple. love this, apart from entertainment, which it also is, but more of something we can benefit from. learned so much about money and finance from u guys today, it is a real thing. money and finance is always going to be a factor in your life and couples i know have multiple ways of dealing with it. thanks for sharing yours.

  • @cathymeow6720
    @cathymeow6720 6 місяців тому +2

    Appreciate your honest sharing of the financial stuff that u have been through. And well done with the sheet that u have put together;very thot-provoking questions and really detailed. Thank you once again🙏🏻

  • @bernicelee3355
    @bernicelee3355 6 місяців тому +1

    Looking forward to Part 2!! This is really useful content to think and talk about before marriage. 👍🏻

  • @jasxteo
    @jasxteo 6 місяців тому +2

    I can’t help but see how good Patrina’s skin is!

  • @stevenycs79
    @stevenycs79 6 місяців тому +6

    Very real incident that I believe a lot of couples encounter. Good to know u guys open up on this conversation at least someone could relate and maybe overcome the same situation. Good contents as always. Totally love the chemistry of u two as always 😊😊

  • @joeylim261
    @joeylim261 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for sharing🥰need more of financial planning tips🫶🏻

  • @acejoker1811
    @acejoker1811 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for sharing John and pat! Truly amazing and looking forward to more contents from you guys :)

  • @gerardtx291
    @gerardtx291 6 місяців тому +2

    One easy logic in life is to only spend what you have. Having credit card or personal loans aren't exactly bad things, because you will get so much more rewards from credit card usage (such as miles or cashback) plus it actually boost your credit rating if you are paying off your bills (in full).
    1. Don't get lure into those PayLater scheme such as interest-free installments (if you do, you have to side aside cash for the monthly repayment)
    2. Don't get into credit card debt (Late payment fee and interest would wipe your savings dry)
    3. Do a simple cash forecast on your end. Just need a calculator to check what you can actually afford (Bank balance - bill payments = how much you can afford)
    On the side note, I really love your videos! Nice sharing 😁

  • @marcang4403
    @marcang4403 6 місяців тому +6

    Damn good episode!!! Very real.. very useful..
    Such a serious topic but you guys presented it in such a real and reasonable way that we can
    understand and relate.
    thank you.

  • @louislimenyu
    @louislimenyu 6 місяців тому

    Learned alot from yall, turning 24 soon, cant wait to have plan for my future and hopefully sticks with it!

  • @ning8774
    @ning8774 6 місяців тому +2

    can't wait for the part 2 on this!

  • @hiddengemthe3349
    @hiddengemthe3349 6 місяців тому

    Thanks so much for sharing ! Really felt that it was really useful . Would love to hear more of it .

  • @shufangina
    @shufangina 5 місяців тому

    Thank you for sharing your financial journey, I always get some takeaways from your content.. Everyone needs an Audrey at one point in their lives! 💚

  • @janeloh6064
    @janeloh6064 6 місяців тому +5

    Great sharing! Thank you for being so open to share about your pitfalls. So happy that you're so willing to be transparent to each other and lived out Luke 16:10. May God use this marriage to bless many more! God bless & blessed Christmas 🤗

  • @ThatsRicky
    @ThatsRicky 6 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for sharing John and Pat! I definitely learned alot from this video. I hope you guys can share more financial tips in the next part of the video.

  • @danriickseah4539
    @danriickseah4539 6 місяців тому +8

    I feel you and I was literally the same shit I was in, took me 10 years to get out of it and yes, my wife already judge me for my poor finance decision when the fact my 300k debt was from other ppl cheating me to invest. Now I am trying to proof my wife again then I am financial literal, I started earning more income, pay down my debt and increase my cashflow. I am a firm believer to earn more than you spend so we don't restrict myself on our needs and wants.

  • @clementtngbowen4910
    @clementtngbowen4910 5 місяців тому +1

    20:51 I don’t think this episode was too long. I could listen tk this all day.

  • @viewinglifechannel
    @viewinglifechannel 6 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for sharing about your debt experiences. Personally, I have also gone through a credit card debt of 5 figures so I could relate to how you two were going through it. Please share more financial stories and how both of you work together to plan for your combined expenses. Thanks!

  • @frozen82
    @frozen82 6 місяців тому

    Thank you for sharing your experience with us. The younger generation definitely benefits from this. I wish had this advice when I was younger.

  • @charmainehor7278
    @charmainehor7278 4 місяці тому

    Good & very real life topic covered here that is addressed in a very matured & open manner. Thank you!

  • @keithrandall8556
    @keithrandall8556 6 місяців тому +2

    This is a great video, thank you for sharing !

  • @brandontng8172
    @brandontng8172 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for sharing! this is really helpful 🙏

  • @BabyILYttm
    @BabyILYttm 6 місяців тому +14

    really love hearing you guys talk, it’s so comforting to hear about your lows and how you both stayed with each other through thick and thin, both of you are so mature & humorous that this video didn’t even feel that long 😂 love you guys so much!

  • @kentan8693
    @kentan8693 6 місяців тому +1

    really love this content! look forward to more topics regarding planning for your finances. and how you guys plan for housing loan or car loans etc.

  • @danltm
    @danltm 6 місяців тому

    Great episode. Kudos for being transparent.

  • @melinda9207
    @melinda9207 6 місяців тому +3

    this epsiode is good.. because i never knew alot of singaporeans struggle with this issue.. i am 31 and i got myself into debt as well but i am thankful my siblings .. i fell into the sink hold as well but now i am also learning to save and handle finance better. and sheet is so useful even for singles! the questions really makes you think about what we really need and see where we are financially

  • @aikaik55
    @aikaik55 6 місяців тому

    Thank you for sharing. Looking forward to more

  • @currypuff4379
    @currypuff4379 6 місяців тому +1

    Even though a little late for me. But I'm happy for young couples to gain from this. Definitely useful conversations / information

  • @cybergod77
    @cybergod77 6 місяців тому +1

    she's certainly a keeper...having gone thru through thick and especially thin w/ u

  • @colorsangell7789
    @colorsangell7789 6 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for being our internet parents 😍

  • @PosPsycho88
    @PosPsycho88 5 місяців тому

    Love the authenciy and honesty 👍👏👏

  • @williamwang7783
    @williamwang7783 5 місяців тому

    great sharing for the youngster! good job guys!

  • @AldoraMuses321
    @AldoraMuses321 6 місяців тому +2

    Thanks so much for sharing John and Pat! I wish I had the financial literacy when I was your age. Now I’m kinda late to the game, but nonetheless I’m on the way to be a good steward of my finances. Look forward to seeing Part 2 of your video love❤

  • @mayshinmon
    @mayshinmon 6 місяців тому +1

    Great sharing.
    Thank you 🙏🏻.

  • @alui5362
    @alui5362 6 місяців тому +6

    hmm.. oddly thought provoking in the sense that it makes me realise how different we are as human beings. like I completely cannot relate sia. at most is only to relate with ur friend audrey. I never thought of credit card as borrowing money, but just making use of the perks but treating it like a debit card. and always treated debt as slavery - like the intangible burden on ur shoulders is much more than the actual dollar amount - so always die die avoided it like the plague. still trying to figure out where all that comes from (like trying to remember childhood/upbringing) but can't really pin-point anything in particular.

  • @limjinwei6859
    @limjinwei6859 6 місяців тому +1

    Benefited a lot part 2!

  • @GerardOng
    @GerardOng 5 місяців тому +1

    Would love to see a part 2 video where you talk about how you split household expenses after marriage and how you handle savings / investments as a couple (e.g joint account or personal account)

  • @fyz5250
    @fyz5250 5 місяців тому

    love this video! would love to hear your couple investment stories, thanks :)

  • @jkbackyard8880
    @jkbackyard8880 6 місяців тому

    Thank you for sharing 🙏🏻🙏🏻 this is so impt!

  • @khoowanxin6673
    @khoowanxin6673 5 місяців тому

    Appreciate the Google doc. It is useful for my fiance and myself!

  • @mayfoo7258
    @mayfoo7258 5 місяців тому

    You speak so well! More people can learn from you...btw, I too have chosen to be frugal and a good steward of money....my spouse and I often do picnics instead of spending on eating at hawker centres or restaurants

  • @pooiyian
    @pooiyian 5 місяців тому +1

    Pat’s hair is gorgeous!

  • @pamelakoh4660
    @pamelakoh4660 5 місяців тому

    Thanks guys for the advice 👍

  • @lubelu
    @lubelu 6 місяців тому

    Thank you for this!

  • @doralto
    @doralto 6 місяців тому

    I like all the things you guys talked about so far. This one hits close as I'm currently in credit card debt and has used my credit transfer. My current strategy us to keep telling myself, no need to buy, save money, save money. Still trying to pay off previous debt. 😔

  • @renj123
    @renj123 6 місяців тому +1

    Smashing that like button so hard.

  • @ApexAlps
    @ApexAlps 6 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for sharing!! Funny how you had a financial adviser then, but ended up with the debt.. guess the fa didn’t do a good job 😅 end up Pat became the adviser and gave you the solution and structuring.. life saver hahah

  • @jaceeeee33333
    @jaceeeee33333 6 місяців тому +2

    please do more of these (:

  • @JYTan-cq7qt
    @JYTan-cq7qt 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @damienlee927
    @damienlee927 6 місяців тому

    Great sharing!

  • @elaineclaire7063
    @elaineclaire7063 6 місяців тому +4

    Usually most women would leave a man of debt, my brother used to have an ex gf when he was high in debt too but she left him because some guys dont learn their lesson.
    I think is difficult to open a conversation with the person you love because it can either make or break you, i appreciate this conversation, i appreciate Jon's logic, can you get on woke salary man podcast to educate on financial literacy to entrepreneurs. Pat is so compromising ❤️
    and so strategic in helping jon save his life.

  • @BluuKiss
    @BluuKiss 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for this open sharing! I hope yall aren't financially stretched due to the condo and very lovely renovation now

    • @JOHNPATCROSS
      @JOHNPATCROSS  6 місяців тому +1

      Hello! Welcome! We smart this time. Did a stress test of 5% interest for the mortgage and only bought the house knowing that we can comfortably pay off the mortgage.
      - Pat

  • @eisenw33
    @eisenw33 5 місяців тому

    KNS... How do you guys make this content sound so damn real lah... Very inspiring and also redefines for me what intimacy is between husband and wife... (and don't care lah if I'm just naive and 90% of this talk is actually scripted but it really felt very honest and real between the two of you, truly feels like true love).

  • @myatthant8797
    @myatthant8797 6 місяців тому

    What a lovely couple, so beautiful

  • @user-dc5sm3hr5x
    @user-dc5sm3hr5x 6 місяців тому

    Thank you very much for sharing!

  • @Rouk3
    @Rouk3 6 місяців тому

    john hair is on point

  • @joeyoh5571
    @joeyoh5571 6 місяців тому +1

    pt.2!!!

  • @missonglai
    @missonglai 6 місяців тому +1

    Inspiring!! New vid pls

  • @lzr1839
    @lzr1839 6 місяців тому

    Thank you.

  • @testor9
    @testor9 6 місяців тому

    atleast it was easier for pat. you helped her paved the way ;X

  • @Xxxxxxxxxxcxccc
    @Xxxxxxxxxxcxccc 6 місяців тому +1

    part 2!!!

  • @choypengkong
    @choypengkong 5 місяців тому

    Nice… good sharing 👍

  • @damienjombek4207
    @damienjombek4207 4 місяці тому

    It is a common situation for most young people/couples nowadays. We can't really blame anyone or even ourselves because it's the interest rates. Also, it is a rabbit hole. Credit is part of the modern life

  • @20pointer
    @20pointer 6 місяців тому

    thanks for being honest

  • @markjohn3461
    @markjohn3461 6 місяців тому

    "...come take my mother furniture"😂😂😂

  • @mysticery
    @mysticery 6 місяців тому +1

    Could you do a video on how you both are investing? Like some investing tips. Cos that also a topic some people struggle with. And don't really want to engage a financial advisor.

  • @zandraphua
    @zandraphua 6 місяців тому

    thank you for this video

  • @shum266
    @shum266 6 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for sharing this! It takes a lot of courage to be this frank and vulnerable online & it definitely gave me an insight to how scary credit card debts can be.
    Would it be possible for you both to share a bit more about how finances are split in terms of household expenditure? I'm personally quite apprehensive about sharing finances with another person for day to day expenses & maintaining a household so any advice would be much appreciated 😄

  • @melaniekoh
    @melaniekoh 6 місяців тому +1

    pls do more 😊😊

  • @Jonlai8009
    @Jonlai8009 6 місяців тому

    This is why i dont have credit card too, i dont think i can control myself

  • @emilyng7224
    @emilyng7224 6 місяців тому +1

    I WANT PART 2 PLSSSS. Omg i am saving money for wedding and reno and reno is so damn expensive. Can yall talk a bit about that? I am intending to save 50k and this year i managed to save like at least 30% but it is still daunting cause my house is coming Q4 2024. Also, as I am working towards that 50k goal, it is quite scary to think what is after the 50k cause that would have wiped out my savings.

  • @darrenkwok84
    @darrenkwok84 6 місяців тому +1

    Li Kwa Lah, Li Kwa Lah, probably CashFlo, BNPL options creating pros and cons lah, once you past that stage, maybe you will look at spending behaviors and take a halt

  • @teohyc
    @teohyc 5 місяців тому

    The basics of financial literacy is just not spending more than you can earn, and pay back credit card on time.
    This is not even a case of having no money to buy food that one is desperate enough to have to use credit card.
    It's just a case of lack of discipline.
    🤦

  • @evangelinelim6192
    @evangelinelim6192 6 місяців тому +1

    M)phosis!!! 🤣

  • @BEN-tz4ok
    @BEN-tz4ok 6 місяців тому

    The sad thing about people in debts is that they refuse to take a loan to clear off their debts. Not sure is it is because of pride or stupidity.

  • @junkaifoong8918
    @junkaifoong8918 6 місяців тому +1

    never owe banks! 😅

  • @BallsyCollective
    @BallsyCollective 6 місяців тому +2

    omg so cheeszzeseyyy i kenot. feature audrey pls.

  • @tulipsandpeaches1834
    @tulipsandpeaches1834 6 місяців тому

    Hi Pat, may I know when you mentioned at age 29/30, you realised you had not much savings, did that also include investments? Or was investment separately in place?

    • @JOHNPATCROSS
      @JOHNPATCROSS  6 місяців тому

      Hello. Nope. Had zero investment. I was living paycheck to paycheck. 😢

  • @AT-lq6ds
    @AT-lq6ds 6 місяців тому +1

    Use credit card like a debit card and you should be safe

  • @melwu7954
    @melwu7954 3 місяці тому

    Just have a spilt account so each of you take care of your own bank account

  • @chensoonteo
    @chensoonteo 6 місяців тому

    How come you can get credit card when you have no income?

    • @JOHNPATCROSS
      @JOHNPATCROSS  6 місяців тому

      It’s the student card. Don’t need income.
      - Pat

  • @brther3
    @brther3 6 місяців тому

    Do you agree that sometimes theres that paradox where you want to enjoy but you want to save money

    • @JOHNPATCROSS
      @JOHNPATCROSS  6 місяців тому

      Yes! I’m still shopping a lot but I start with putting money aside when my pay comes.
      - Pat

  • @picopiku
    @picopiku 6 місяців тому

    I didn't fall into the $500 Credit Card Trap. Probably back in my mind i am fully aware cash is still cash and credit card is some sort like a rubber band. At the end of the day you unstretch the rubber band is still the same length. I pay full everymonth, if i can't pay full means im in trouble already, alarms bells all sound already. My math is bad, so i won't try to venture into creative ideas to meddle with credit cards stunts.

  • @thrivingthegrind6830
    @thrivingthegrind6830 5 місяців тому

    That means the financial planner don’t know how to fight fire….when he doesn’t even know about balance transfer…😂

  • @brain_blood
    @brain_blood 6 місяців тому

    How did you guys manage to get a condo so young with no savings?! TEACH US

    • @JOHNPATCROSS
      @JOHNPATCROSS  6 місяців тому +2

      OKAY EVERYBODY MANAGE EXPECTATIONS AH. All these happened more than 5 years ago. Since then, my company has grown, Pat has a better job. We invested and saved heavily, we sold our BTO.
      This is not that recent k. 😂
      - John

    • @sek898
      @sek898 6 місяців тому

      he sold his one of his venture to peter lim son

  • @edwardxad
    @edwardxad 5 місяців тому

    Why record in 480p 😂