Vanished Talents | Sprint Car Racings Most Talented Drivers Who Fell Off The Grid

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  • @Wild_Child410
    @Wild_Child410 Рік тому +22

    Im best friends with Mark and crewed for Karl and Mark for awhile after coming over from Bob Briscoe. Mark got tired of being away from his wife and kids, the outlaw schedule back then was brutal. He also wanted to spend more time with his mom and dad Karl due to health problems. Mark mows grass and has a small land scape business around Olitic. Mark is the coolest guy you ever met unlike his cousin Steve. In a lot of ways Mark was just as talented as Steve but never tore up as much equipment as Steve did. Mark didn’t fall of he just got tired of being on the road. Hope this helps👍

    • @rickrarer4542
      @rickrarer4542 Рік тому +1

      i wasnt a big fan of mark when he was winning everything, Then i met him at Eldora one night and couldn't help but be a fan as he was as nice as nice could be, Great guy

    • @Wild_Child410
      @Wild_Child410 Рік тому +2

      @@rickrarer4542 - Mark is one of the nicest down to earth guys you will ever meet. Plus just has a huge heart helping ppl out. Steve is a 100% opposite, personality of a turd. I saw Karl and Mark help out low budget teams from time to time by giving them spare parts.

    • @brianpeterson6976
      @brianpeterson6976 5 місяців тому +1

      The History Mystery man did a really nice documentary type piece on Mark & Karl. With interviews and such. He has quite a few drivers.

    • @jimsnyder2143
      @jimsnyder2143 2 місяці тому

      Pretty much what he just said in the video🤷‍♂️

  • @m.c.squawk708
    @m.c.squawk708 Рік тому +4

    It is about time someone made analytic UA-cam videos about sprint car racing!

  • @dirttrackmisfits1901
    @dirttrackmisfits1901 Рік тому +7

    I've listened to an interview each with Mark and his dad Karl, and while it was probably a good time to walk away, a crash he had in Fargo towards the end gave him a head injury that he still deals with. That, along with wanting to watch his kids grow up, led to the decision to walk away.

    • @jeffreyprater1715
      @jeffreyprater1715 Рік тому +2

      That's exactly what happened to him. Saw him down at Uncle Karl's about 3 weeks ago. He's doing fine. Has a lawn mowing business.

  • @curtjensen8073
    @curtjensen8073 Рік тому +6

    I stayed a Mark's house for a few days in July this summer (2023). He is truly enjoying retirement and has no regrets of walking away. He and Karl are restoring old cars and enjoying the simple things in life. And yes, he is a great guy to this day.

  • @timvincent4412
    @timvincent4412 Рік тому +25

    Mark Kinser is a great guy.

  • @busher69
    @busher69 Рік тому +8

    Last time I saw Tyler Walker, he had failed to get out of the B for the Gold Cup Main on Saturday night in Chico. As he left the track he kicked it sideways and showered the 3rd turn pit grandstands with rocks and clods hitting several people including Jimmy Sills and Jimmy Boyd. Instantly, everybody in those stands were furious. As soon as Tyler stopped at his trailer at least 50 people were on the way from the stands to kick his ass. As the pissed off fans got to the trailer, the crew told em Tyler was hiding up front in the trailer. I don't know if anybody got to him or not. He was lucky that whole bunch didn't get ahold of him. He could have been one of the best, but, nobody misses what he turned into, one huge horses ass.

    • @catherinesullivan641
      @catherinesullivan641 9 місяців тому

      What year was this? Thanks, my brother took driving lessons from Jimmy Sills.

  • @kevinblakemore6445
    @kevinblakemore6445 Рік тому +3

    I’m so glad I came across your channel! World of outlaws, Sprint cars , & Midgets. Have always been my favorite cars to watch! Currently I’m really hoping Tanner Holmes does great in Shark Racing 1T car. But I just love great racing.

    • @nascarsteve
      @nascarsteve 8 місяців тому

      I went to the final 2 nights of racing at Devils Bowl last fall, met Tanner. Nicest kid. Hands out signed photos to anyone who walks by. He gets it.

  • @eaglejoe8
    @eaglejoe8 Рік тому +3

    No issues with the mic. You sounded fine
    As for the video, this is a cool concept and well put together. I look forward to seeing more of these.

    • @slidejobdom
      @slidejobdom  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it

  • @mikaelhaggard8031
    @mikaelhaggard8031 Рік тому +3

    Mark said a head injury in the early 00s affected his performance. He was in the Roth ride for awhile and didn't perform up to his expectations so he left. Last time I saw him he was at the Knoxville Nationals and finished 6th or 7th and that was the last time I saw him driving. 05 ish , somewhere around there.

  • @iTakerrr
    @iTakerrr Рік тому +5

    Cody Darrah is still 100% one of the biggest "what ifs" ive ever seen in sprint car racing. He was just never the same after he broke his leg while doing outlaw traveling. Who knows what happens if he doesn't break his leg and his momentum gets halted before it even started. The other reality of course is that the #4 car just was not as fast as the #9 at any point no matter the driver. Cody was quite literally just getting going even with 2015 being as successful as it was, and then just...vanished. Even if he took over his dads business, I'm surprised he wouldn't keep going at least locally, leading to the first option being the most likely. Just didn't feel like racing anymore.

  • @koalaracingfan
    @koalaracingfan Рік тому +2

    Very great video there are many drivers like this that could be used

  • @bobbygzzz7116
    @bobbygzzz7116 Рік тому +5

    Other issue with mark...was his dad karl...karl knew how to make cars work...thats why mark did so good early yrs karl was on steves car...u see how fast steve was..ask any kinser how fast u cud be with karl at the wrenches...

  • @jerrycoggin9434
    @jerrycoggin9434 9 місяців тому +3

    I think Mark was the first guy trying to get Doug Wolfgang out of his car when it was on fire if my memory serves. A naturally heroic sob. Totally selfless

  • @WadeCrone
    @WadeCrone Рік тому +3

    Mark Kinser was a super cool guy to talk to. Met him for the first time at Williams Grove SpeedWay.

  • @mdavid2100
    @mdavid2100 Рік тому +3

    Great job on the video. Interesting information.

  • @dominickgiannotti
    @dominickgiannotti Рік тому +5

    Great content! We need less channels about nascar which has become way too over saturated anyways and more dirt channels. Keep up the great videos!

    • @petegregory517
      @petegregory517 Рік тому +2

      NASCAR? Never think about it unless reminded and I live 4 mi east of DIS.

  • @Hypn0Ph6nk
    @Hypn0Ph6nk Рік тому +3

    Last time I seen Tyler walker, he was at the kings royal Joey Saldana got injured at (Kings Royal ‘11) Tyler walker actually won that night never to be heard from again. Come to find out, he started doing drugs and came back to the Kings royal in 2015 with a different demeanor and everything. I felt bad for the guy

  • @twfownerman
    @twfownerman Рік тому +3

    Mark Kinser said in Open Red podcast he had suffered a head injury and it screwed up his depth perception. That was also another reason for retiring.

  • @bhiatt5657
    @bhiatt5657 Рік тому +2

    tyler walker with his dreads(hair) era was hilarious. That was pretty much the ender for him.

  • @kfjrusa
    @kfjrusa Рік тому +2

    You may want to check out Mark's interview from 2011 in Speed Sport News. He said point blank that the lingering affects from his concussion is what lead to his decision to stop racing. It was a very good interview, and was what made me realize that I had suffered from a severe concussion in 1992. I had a lot of the same symptoms that Mark mentioned in that interview. That last night in the Sprint Car I hit the wall hard enough that they had replaced a 20 ft section of concrete wall where I had hit it. The only thing we were able to salvage from the car was the steering wheel. My seat didn't even survive that crash.

    • @slidejobdom
      @slidejobdom  Рік тому +1

      I had heard people saying he had depth perception issues but I could never find an article or confirmation on that. I was surprised to hear that this was the case, just because in the NSCHOF interview with him, he didn’t mention it whatsoever while talking about his retirement. I never realized how many drivers have had head problems until recently.

    • @kfjrusa
      @kfjrusa Рік тому +1

      @@slidejobdom I just tried finding a link or any information on that interview, with no luck. I may have been in 2012 seeing how that is when they first issued the magazine format. I seem to think it was around the time of the Nationals when the issue with his interview was released. Hope that helps if you want to investigate further.

    • @slidejobdom
      @slidejobdom  Рік тому +4

      @@kfjrusathank you! I will definitely go look around and see if I can find it. unfortunately with sprint car racing it is difficult to find information online, for certain drivers atleast.

    • @kfjrusa
      @kfjrusa Рік тому +1

      @@slidejobdom I agree with the difficulty of finding information. I have searched for years trying to find video, race results, or articles from when I raced from "89-"92. I have found some information on the third turn, and the only video is from Hutchingson KS at a USA show in "89. If you are Curious. I am Kenny French, I raced several USA shows in my rookie year. I was even with them on their Eastern swing that year.

    • @slidejobdom
      @slidejobdom  Рік тому +1

      @@kfjrusa nice to meet you Kenny I’m Dominic👋🏻 i always appreciate having racers interested in the channel and giving their input. I barely found out about that USA series until the article I read. I actually use third turn for stats on these videos, very useful website; and yeah honestly it’s hard to find videos on any races back then, except for outlaw races those ones have been archived pretty well. Unlike nascar where almost every race is online, sprint car racing is the opposite.

  • @Flex10_
    @Flex10_ Рік тому +7

    You should add PJ Chesson to your next video

    • @healthyone100
      @healthyone100 9 місяців тому

      he Tried Indy cars but that didn't work out!

  • @ollysfishing4231
    @ollysfishing4231 Рік тому +3

    Tyler Walker also came over to West Australia and raced sprintcars in our series

  • @cliff4695
    @cliff4695 Рік тому +4

    Tyler Walker was a very talented racer. He had some issues that unfortunately took him out

  • @ronstewart9792
    @ronstewart9792 Рік тому +4

    Thanks, was great information.

  • @bobbygzzz7116
    @bobbygzzz7116 Рік тому +6

    Ask jeff shepard how fast the 5 car was with karl turning wrenches

  • @trentmatthews5521
    @trentmatthews5521 Рік тому +2

    Cody darrah i was lucky enough to see race in Australia at the classic with joey saldana when they both ran with kasey kahne racing and ran mopar engines, both cars were rocket ships and very fast! But codys talent was very clear! Running 4th in the A feature after joey had contact with another car in front, in which i think he would probably have won if it didnt happen. Mark kinser, an absolute champion! Back when chrysler/mopar were at the top of the sprintcar world, and another champ from back then who also ran a mopar and an legendary driver, danny lasoski

  • @BradCarlson-s9j
    @BradCarlson-s9j 11 місяців тому +1

    Solid video piece

  • @Timertraveler4824
    @Timertraveler4824 Рік тому +1

    Just started watching! Popcorn ready! Let's go!

    • @Timertraveler4824
      @Timertraveler4824 Рік тому

      Was a huge Cody darrah fan. I always wondered what happened!!

  • @James-kk8dw
    @James-kk8dw Рік тому +5

    Richard “The Gas Man” Griffin.

  • @jonnyspa27
    @jonnyspa27 4 місяці тому +1

    Bobby Davis Jr. was a great driver who simply got fed up with the long WoO schedule. Won his only title in ‘90 I believe for Casey Luna and went back to Memphis to run his family electrical business. As I understand, he’s doing well and enjoying life.

  • @369Bandido
    @369Bandido Рік тому +1

    Todd Kane.😊 That boy was Fire back when I was a Kid. Also, Number 7 Kevin Doty. He passed in 2005.

  • @rustycaplinger8036
    @rustycaplinger8036 Рік тому +1

    I was with Tyler after he won the Kings Royal race. Him and Jac H wife were sharing a big bottle of whiskey.

  • @Hazmatt3446
    @Hazmatt3446 Рік тому +2

    A young racer I was very disappointing. Didn’t make it very far due to personal reasons was Cameron Dodson. I watched him race a lot when he was 15 and 16 and I think he could’ve been every bit as good as Kyle Larson.

  • @mjriemen
    @mjriemen Рік тому +2

    Jeff Swindell would be interesting… he never fully dissapeared, but he went from full time Outlaw to local stock car guy, to sprint car driver again…
    He was all over the place afyer leaving the Two Winners 107 Octane Outlaw car.

    • @Ottos_ScLm_Race_videos_2009_on
      @Ottos_ScLm_Race_videos_2009_on Рік тому

      He started building parts. He developed the Jeff Swindell bleeder. I saw and talk to him 2014ish on the ASCS National Tour.

    • @AXIDNT66
      @AXIDNT66 9 місяців тому +1

      Kinda like how Mark Kinser was very different than Steve, Jeff was very different than Sammy. Sammy never seemed happy but Jeff was quite friendly and every interview always made it seem like he really enjoyed what he was doing.
      I remember one year when the Outlaws came to town when I was probably 7 or 8 years old, Jeff ended up taking out a quarter of the front straight catch fence during the A-main. They interviewed him while they were untangling his car and fixing the fence and he said "yeah I think we can make it back out" and half the crowd laughed or went "what?!" but sure enough, before they even finished the fence they had a spare car down and ready to roll out.
      After the race when we were walking through the pits looking at stuff and kinda keeping our distance from most of the cars/teams to stay out of the way, he walked away from his car out to us and said hello and took us up in the trailer and showed his spare engines and cabinets full of spare parts and chatted to my dad for awhile, easily the nicest guy there.

  • @leviorourke7498
    @leviorourke7498 8 місяців тому

    I always lived Mari kinser he did decent, but Steve is the one I got tattooed sliding from turn four at eldora at the kings royal. I forget the year dad took the photo when we were playing under the stands lol

  • @andrewsebree4333
    @andrewsebree4333 Рік тому +1

    Tyler Walker was the OG Kyle Larson. I loved watching Tyler race. He was so exciting. Doing his front flips down the front stretch when he won

    • @nascarsteve
      @nascarsteve 8 місяців тому

      I say he's the biggest waste of talent in racing history. Fast in literally anything. Could have won in NASCAR but couldn't stay clean.

  • @tuckdaman1185
    @tuckdaman1185 Рік тому +1

    Excellent 👍👍

  • @sprintcarsandguitars959
    @sprintcarsandguitars959 Рік тому +3

    if you watch history mistery man karl kinser,you'll see mark in it and talk about why he left.

  • @DirtTrackRacing410
    @DirtTrackRacing410 Рік тому +3

    I was hoping to see Aaron ott and Brian Leppo

  • @FreeJaffa92
    @FreeJaffa92 Рік тому

    Mark Kinser also suffered a concussion in what was almost his last race.
    After that, he was unable to have any depth perception.
    He talked about it on the open red podcast interview a couple of years ago.

  • @EarnestRacing
    @EarnestRacing Рік тому +1

    Jesse keen owner of the #17 that walker drove to win the kings royal passed away a little after that win

  • @davebodio
    @davebodio Рік тому +1

    Cody was on an episode with whistlin diesel fairly recently too

  • @kylecolletti6994
    @kylecolletti6994 Рік тому

    I don’t know the current legal logistics, but as of 2018 darrah was heavily involved working for his dads business in central PA.

  • @STEELR31GN
    @STEELR31GN Рік тому +2

    Great stuff! Would like to see one of Daron Clayton.

  • @beckyumphrey2626
    @beckyumphrey2626 Рік тому +3

    Kinser retired due to a traumatic head injury and depth perception issues.

  • @tdstanley102
    @tdstanley102 Рік тому +3

    How about Neon Deion Hindi and Cody Darah?

  • @geezer4962
    @geezer4962 Рік тому +1

    The saddest words ever written of prose and of pen we're these four words, "what might have been". Sometimes it's just not in the cards, so to speak.

  • @cletuszinn2204
    @cletuszinn2204 Рік тому +1

    in pa he was known as tumbling Tyler. because he always would wreck

  • @jaredkinneyjr
    @jaredkinneyjr Рік тому +2

    Great stuff

  • @cmoore185
    @cmoore185 Рік тому +1

    Mark Kinser is no puzzle to those of us who had followed his career from the start. Mark started out driving a thrown together car for Karl. After that, he was in a series of really good rides, especially the Reid's Deisel #6. Then he drove for Karl and the rest is historty. Karl was so much better and brighter than anyone else turning wrenches on sprint cars that he made the really good mechanics like Gary Stanton, Kenny Woodruff, and Deuce Turrell look bad. When Karl decided to retire, Mark was not able to secure a ride anywhere near as good as he had. His production dropped off dramatically and I assume at that point he just decided that it wasn't worth it anymore. It is pretty hard for a racer to stop driving and become a fan. You don't see it very often. A lot of them just leave. A good example of this is Andy Hillenburg from Oklahoma. When he got out of the car, he didn't even go to races anymore. There are exceptions, of course but they are usually not as successful as Mark was. They might still go to races and possibly even have a second career centered around racing, like Shane Carson.

    • @melroberts8877
      @melroberts8877 Рік тому +1

      No facts at all in this response other than Karl was the best ,epic fail

  • @sprintcarguy5798
    @sprintcarguy5798 Рік тому +2

    Should Do Joey Saldana and Brian Paulus

    • @2648498
      @2648498 Рік тому

      Joey Saldana was a brownsburg high school cheerleader.

  • @mjriemen
    @mjriemen Рік тому +4

    Do Anthony Macri lololololol

  • @1829Lola
    @1829Lola Рік тому +2

    Whatever happened to Stevie Smith from Penn.

    • @wg5768
      @wg5768 Рік тому +2

      He retired from racing and runs a business making Titanium pieces for race cars,I believe. I think he's located in Broken Arrow,Oklahoma.

    • @1829Lola
      @1829Lola Рік тому +1

      @@wg5768 Thanks for the re-ply. We share the same name. They used to come to I-96 Speedway in Michigan. Used to get a t-shirt every time they came. Him and his dad were always great to talk to. Keep them videos coming. steve Smith Commerce, Michigan.

    • @melroberts8877
      @melroberts8877 Рік тому

      Look up Smith titanium, Stevie builds the nicest stuff in sprintcar racing

  • @jkdwayne
    @jkdwayne Рік тому +1

    Tyler Walker , Rich Kid , Drug Addict. Mark Kinser , Good Guy ,Just gave up . I knew both guys personally.

    • @babremmerkamp
      @babremmerkamp Рік тому

      Jason Meyers has to have an axe to grind for Tyler not getting off the track in the ‘08 Nationals. One of the bigger bonehead moves I’ve ever seen in a big race

    • @advacoRRR
      @advacoRRR 11 місяців тому

      I remember that. Then he goes to the interviewer and brags about how "he's back." I was rooting for meyers

  • @redemptionz73
    @redemptionz73 Рік тому +2

    A video about Joey Saldana?

    • @trentmatthews5521
      @trentmatthews5521 Рік тому +3

      Joey was an awesome operator! I remember him in australia at the sprintcar classic when himself and cody darrah come over, both ran mopar engines and both cars were absolute rocket ships. Cody and joey were so good to watch! Aggressive driving styles and running the cushion. Joey made contact with another car going for 3rd place after the car in front slammed the door on him forcing him to roll and joey been sent rear of field, having cody finish 4th

    • @redemptionz73
      @redemptionz73 Рік тому +1

      yeah i love Joey Saldana,
      @@trentmatthews5521

  • @tristanlabarge5289
    @tristanlabarge5289 Рік тому +3

    Jason Meyers “hot boy” he should be a must for you to do he was at the top of his game when he hung it up

  • @Acemechanicalservices
    @Acemechanicalservices Рік тому +3

    Let’s see, how can I improve my image after this drug scandal?…….. I got it!!!!! I’ll grow dreadlocks!!!

    • @mjriemen
      @mjriemen 5 місяців тому

      Hes smoking crack on Facebook now… 😱

    • @nailher78
      @nailher78 4 місяці тому

      @@mjriemen just looked , thats nuts !!

  • @chacehenderson9800
    @chacehenderson9800 Рік тому

    No more crash videos?😢

  • @willfriar8054
    @willfriar8054 Рік тому +1

    Chuck Rock from gibsonton. Riverview Auto wrecking raw racing. they built their cars 4 East Bay raceway. Chuck was murdered by the boyfriend of an ex-girlfriend. the guy threw a gallon of gasoline into the truck and burnt Chuck alive. the man got burnt but he survived the woman got life in prison. an entire group of sprint car drivers and builders just got out of it. sometimes the death of one friend changes everyone. God bless you Chuck it's been twenty years and I still miss you...

  • @theginganinja-_-7695
    @theginganinja-_-7695 9 місяців тому

    Always wondered what happened to Cody.

  • @walmars3curity
    @walmars3curity 5 місяців тому +1

    Im pretty sure mark got out because it was too much balancing racing and a family. His son is a friend of mine and in his own words that's how it came off. It was just too much and "too addicting"

    • @NorthernTreasureHunter
      @NorthernTreasureHunter 4 місяці тому

      I remember watching Mark growing up and he was one of my favorites! Then it was like he just disappeared. Glad to know he's doing well.

    • @billyrowlee7337
      @billyrowlee7337 Місяць тому

      He got out cause of his vision.

  • @petemouse
    @petemouse Рік тому +2

    Lance Blevins

  • @cmamsler
    @cmamsler Рік тому +1

    Do your own content. You know exactly what I’m talking about

  • @johnreisig3017
    @johnreisig3017 Рік тому

    John gambutti won alot in gokarts and Midgets and raced the supermodifieds Talented driver but nascar wants the money and the sponsors

  • @leviorourke7498
    @leviorourke7498 8 місяців тому

    Ever find anything on Ohio late model driver from the 60’s 70’s and I believe some of the 80’s. I never met my grandfather m, Gary Ute, he had a late model diet car races Friday. Sat. Sunday every weekend. Lots at Muskingham speedway, Mansfield race way, buckeye, and Wayne county speedway. And it was an orange car with thumper on the hood or door, and road runner in the back. Any photos or videos of him winning wrecking or anything would be amazing to see on a video of classic late models drivers. If there was all stars and a national circuit or Lucas oil, he would’ve been in there. He raced a lot with old Danny dean, and delmus Conley, and many more greats

  • @thomasmaddox4158
    @thomasmaddox4158 4 місяці тому +1

    The Tyler Walker portion didn't age well..

  • @gw4717
    @gw4717 Рік тому +1

    Let me drive one of those cars I wish I could have shot to prove how good iam

    • @AdamOutlaw87
      @AdamOutlaw87 5 місяців тому

      I feel im a Legend in my own mind also, its good im not alone👍😂😂

  • @jbh5992
    @jbh5992 8 місяців тому

    I've seen all the greats race and I honestly feel hands down the best talent I've seen live is Cody Darrah

  • @Brodozer39
    @Brodozer39 Рік тому +1

    Soon to be added to this list: Anthony Macri

    • @racingfan
      @racingfan 11 місяців тому

      Wow u USED to be a big fan of him..Let's hope he never makes this list..sad haters

    • @Bhanes84
      @Bhanes84 4 місяці тому

      This comment didnt age well!!!

  • @sprintcarguy5798
    @sprintcarguy5798 Рік тому

    Do Clyde Knipl

    • @22Sandrock
      @22Sandrock Рік тому +1

      Clyde has an awesome gig working on carson macedo’s car learning from one of the best!

  • @jerrycoggin9434
    @jerrycoggin9434 9 місяців тому

    What ever happened to Sid Blanford? Tommy Estes jr?

  • @Donut_world17
    @Donut_world17 8 місяців тому

    “LANCE BLEVINS”‘from Oklahoma! ( Citgo #21, 410 Sprint .).

  • @jaysom2240
    @jaysom2240 Рік тому +3

    Karl Kinser is why Mark was so successful. He was an average driver without Karl.

    • @Synic08
      @Synic08 Рік тому

      Was he driving at half the tracks or what..? The driver is the driver.

    • @ski874
      @ski874 Рік тому +3

      Karl was on another level. Combined with Steve they were extremely hard to beat in the day

    • @ridged8
      @ridged8 Рік тому +2

      @@Synic08 and without a proper setup, the driver is most certainly only a part of the equation

  • @johnhegarty1761
    @johnhegarty1761 Рік тому +3

    Mark had a head injury.

  • @johnhegarty1761
    @johnhegarty1761 Рік тому +1

    Jeff Swindell went into property management/ real estate

    • @22Sandrock
      @22Sandrock Рік тому

      And electronic bleeders for!

  • @melroberts8877
    @melroberts8877 Рік тому

    The Mark Kinser piece was an epic fail,