Restoration of a Foot Powered Scroll Saw
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Restoration of an empire foot-powered scroll saw. I purchased this over a year ago and it has been a long prosses to find parts and work it all to get together. the empire foot-powered scroll saw is finally working. this vintage scroll saw was designed to replace the work of a whole crew. I am glad to finally have a foot powered scroll saw in my shop and looking forward to doing several woodworking projects with it. weather hardwood or soft this is a ton of fun!
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Great recovery. Nice to see I’m not the only one who forgets to measure. Great chuckle for today love your work.
LOL yup it is an easy thing to assume!
Mad respect for your skills. Working with power tools and then watching what you do is mind blowing. I dare say that not too many power tool guys could switch to what you do. Love your channel
thanks Richard. it does take a certain kind of mental twistedness!
What??? I thought you were all about hand tools! Now you are using foot tools? How do you expect us to keep up? Great job. Glad you are getting the saw back in working order.
LOL just call me a hybrid woodworker!
James that foot powered scroll saw is awsome. When you build stuff by hand using only hand tools its not going to be perfect but i do say you dis a fine job on making that wheel for it. Keep up the awsome videos
Thanks Brian. more fun to come!
Great job all tools are old no morden or electric.
What do you like about Titebond II..?
it has the highest performance to usability of any glue and you can not beat the price with a stick. I have a whole pile of videos on glue tests comparing all of them
Really enjoyed this video as I do 98% of all your videos. As a power tool woodworker, Im inspired to try and build hand tool woodworking skills. I'm curious as to body position relative to the lumber while sawing?
thanks. it is nice to have the work a bit above chest height and below the shoulders do your eyes can be close to the work. was that what you were asking?
Yes, my sawing skills stink. I've watched your videos about the topic of using hand saws. But for some reason I'm still not able to get a clean straight cut. Thankful for hand planes.
@@twh7011 it is something that does take time, but I would suggest recording yourself. put the camera straight on and then again from the side and you will probably see the arm swinging out of line. that was the big thing that helped me!
@@WoodByWright, Great idea! I will give that a try. Thanks for your input. Looking forward to your next video!
How hard was it to clean off all that glue?
not hard at all. the scrub plane took it off with the first pass of flattening.
It's refreshing to know that even master woodworkers make mistakes. Thank you for not editing it out, it inspires people to not give up when you fail. Great work!
thanks. but I am by no means a master. just a guy in the shop having fun!
Like everyone else congratulations. It's nice to see it running. Although I confess if I ever get the chance to own one, I'll use a bandsaw to make the wheel, way too much work for me to cut it by hand
Lol thanks. Where is the fun in that?
Valid point
Hi, you need to use narrower blades and only turn the wood slowly round the curves. With a hand fretsaw you only move the work on the downstroke, so it makes its own kerf to pivot, the wood is jumping because you kept turning without the blade having any space to turn. Slowly turn the work and the kerf will allow the blade to move. Much narrower blades with the same coarse teeth are better than the ones shown.
Remember this the advantage of this machine is that it leaves BOTH
Hands free to hold and move the work, it isn't really any faster!!
The speed of the cut is governed by the tooth size of the blade since concentrating on pedaling and moving the work is more difficult. I have both hand, foot and machine fretsaw and prefer the quietness of the hand fretwork.
On further note you might consider
removing some of the centre wood to shift the weight towards the rim for a smoother action. K
he problem with it lifting it the arm alignment and using a HUGE blade that easily bound up with the twist of the head. I just started with that blade to mess around with it. once I do a lot of the other twerks that will be far less of a problem.
are you wearing wooden clogs?
Best shop shoes you can ask for. Incrediblely comfortable and protective.
👍🏻👊🏻
you have too many hand tools.... im accepting donations
LOL I just gave away over 200 planes and other tools.
gave away :( … why for I no hear about? haha great video mate and nice restoration cheers
Lo tuyo NO és el CALIBRADOR...
De hecho, NO se ve ningún calibrador en el taller.
Más aún, no tienes ni luz eléctrica.
En fin
Cada Palo que Aguante su Vela.
It's really awesome to see these old tools come back to life in absence of (maybe not obtainable) original parts. That big wheel could be an interesting carving project. Great job!
thanks. I do want to tackle it some day. the art of pattern making is an amazing thing to study.
Being a "machine" seems lot better than being a "tool". 😁
LOL yup!
I learnt new things from watching.
Thank you Gray
Australia
Oh my soul! So many thoughts!!!
First...you are a cave man! Discoving the first wheel!
Second...your Dad and I kept saying..." Just grab a hole saw...or...table saw...or...some other power tool!" 🤣😂🤣😂 You are killing the old man! 💗
Lastly, Amazing! 😁
LOL sounds about right. I so need to get him into he shop some time to do a video.
Minuto, 11:00 . Ja ja ha ha aaaa....
*¡¡ Por los Clavos de Cristo !!*
Me parece que el Berbiquí NO ÉS lo tuyo...
Pilla un taladro eléctrico (perforadora, o como quieras llamarle) y haz los agujeros eléctricamente....
¡¡Das nóxo...!!
Excelente!!!
Usando serrucho manual!!!
Cómo lo hago yo aún!!!
😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
No tienes ninguna herramienta eléctrica...
¿No tienes electricidad?
¿Eres pobre?
¡Las herramientas manuales son más divertidas! además, este canal trata sobre la enseñanza de herramientas manuales. Si usara herramientas eléctricas no estaría enseñando nada.
That may be the coolest cardio machine I've ever seen very nice
LOL I need more as my ultra running is not enough.
It's a pleasure to watch this video. How you make this without electrical tools, respect man
!
thanks! just having twisted fun in the shop!
aw man James I would be very hesitant to send my swiss gouges toward anything made of steel. had me sweating.
The difference between a good woodworker and a great woodworker is how they fix their mistakes. Glad to see you are well on your way on becoming a great woodworker.
Well said. thanks Joe
Did you need to balance the flywheel? I saw you trimming the rim, but couldn't tell if that was for clearance or for balance.
Do any of the treadle lathes use a flywheel help maintain speed rather than reversing direction with each stroke?
the friction on the axle is enough that there is no need to balance it more. the turning on it was to create a groove for the belt to ride in.
Yes that type of lathe is called a flywheel lathe. they are actually more common then spring pole as they are more efficient.
Some of the footage was recorded so long ago I forgot we recorded it. I didn’t recognize it right away. Glad this is done.
LOL yup. changed shirts 6 times in this video
чтобы не было заноз используйте перчатки, билл коррективы внес
What an amazing tool. Definitely a good leg workout. Great job.
thanks. suprisingly I do not find it taxing on the legs at all, but it could have something to do with my other hobbies.
You are an artist Jargl you dazzle us thank God we are watching daily videos you do not Toml
LOL thanks!
You might want to try the spiral scroll saw blades that cut in all directions that might help you with the saw lifting your work piece. That would be very problematic if you were cutting something delicate.
oh ya I have a pile of those and others to put in for different uses. the problem with it lifting it the arm alignment and using a HUGE blade that easily bound up with the twist of the head. I just started with that blade to mess around with it. once I do a lot of the other twerks that will be far less of a problem.
Twerks? Um, no thanks.
@@bobt2522 LOL the best kind!
Jamesaneese in middle school but couldn’t catch on so I switched to Spanish in high school.
LOL I know Right!
Was that language Martian? I'm thinking it was Martian. Oh ya, pretty sure that was Martian.
Lol
I thought the wheel was going to be an excuse to use your compass plane. But I didn't see it.
that would have worked other than the fact that you are always going agenst half of the grain so it ends up jamming and clogging with the tear out. with the spoke shave I could skew it and help with that.
I always appreciate a mistake in making. been there. well done and thank you for sharing well done great restoration
thanks man. I try and keep in those learning moments.
Thank you,good idea
😀😀. Awesome video.. look forward to seeing this in use. (but I saw you did sneak in a modern looking be pliers which looked like it came from Menards. 😁)
I have a lot of tools from Menards! LOL
Would love to have one
wait a minute............drill are machines.......power sanders are machines........but we also call them tools..............
LOL I see what you did there!
LOL. glad you had a sense of humor.......but you left that door WIDE open.
Reyale exleant sir .I love you your scroll madhun😍😍😘😘👍👍🙏🙏
thanks!
Don’t you just hate when glue runs all over!
Lol actually it kind of enjoy it it's fun to pick it off of things The reason why I use wax on my bench.
Really Really nice. I was hooked in from the start. And thank you for including a oops that everyone does at one time or another.
I do them all the time. I wish I could include more, but the videos would be too long. LOL
Dude it's cool, but it is uncontrollable. I would rather use a coping saw.
This is the very reason we have children.
LOL what and let them have all the fun?
Hi grate saw I would love one what make is it ?
Thanks Moggy Mark.
James making things GOOD, wiggle cam, PBS style BAD
LOL thanks!
I don't know James, that they glow yellow digital watch just looks totally incongruous in your shop!
Lol. That's why I picked it. That and it is a GPS running watch. For my other hobby.
That’s awesome James. Wow is that a lot of work to get it running. It’s a good thing that you’re in such great shape. Enjoy.
Thanks. It actually does not require that much to run it. Because your pedaling fairly slowly.
Что не сделаешь ради искусства . Парень , удачи тебе !
Спасибо. это было весело, конечно!
I was scrolling through the videos I missed and found you scrolling right back. Nice little three part series. Please add on what ever you do to complete this James-powered tool. Thanks
Thanks Thomas. this is high on the list for after the bed.
2:40: Needs more glue; don't be so stingy! It looks like this saw would benefit from something to hold your work down against the table, like modern scroll saws sometimes have. (I'm way too lazy to go check if you address that in your other video.)
LOL always need more glue! the problem with it lifting it the arm alignment and using a HUGE blade that easily bound up with the twist of the head. I just started with that blade to mess around with it. once I do a lot of the other twerks that will be far less of a problem.
"I am a machine......" er..... Fractional horsepower at best buddy! :D Really enjoying this series on the restoration of a classic old saw like this. It's been a while and I thought I'd missed it. And of course your never flagging "stick to it" attitude when we "boo-boo". After all, it's not that we don't make mistakes. But rather how we respond and make things right that defines us. So nice recovery on the wheel hub issue.
A small hint. As a crossover wood and metal guy myself I suggest you try the hacksaw with slightly slower strokes and use two hands for a firm pressure on the full length of the forward cut and lift a lot to reduce pressure to just a kiss or even lift off on the return. Sort of like a really narrow metal file that happens to have a frame. The teeth will last longer and stay sharper and the cuts will go faster despite the slower strokes.
LOL thanks. so true!
Nice Job James. While I was watching you glue up the panel, I was thinking that you need a foot powered veneer press and a foot powered band saw. Future projects? You might also want to build a work piece hold down for the scroll saw. Thanks for posting the build. Take Care.
the veneer press is on the list I will need to make ply wood for a few upcoming projects.
Wow! That saw i beautiful. I could have use for a saw like that in my workshop, then I'll get some cardio while woodworking
LOL thanks. it takes far less then it looks to run, but it sure is fun!
That’s awesome mate, it’s a thing of beauty!
thanks man. looking forward to playing with it further.
My first proper wood working tool was a scroll saw and it was far from proper but I made alot of projects and had alot of fun it's a real treat to see you get a antique one going. By the way I've been listening to the podcast I really like it I subscribed to it hopefully I'll catch a live episode soon
sweet Shawn. would love to see you live on there!
Great old tool and cool that its first job was to balance itself. I'm sure it'll be a great addition to your shop. Maybe add a brass table insert for better control. Might as well throw a finish on the wheel for what it costs. Watch ya fingers mate.
Thanks. Yup. Those are some of the extras I still need to do.
Do you put wax or any other finish on the fast of your clamps to keep them from gluing to the work?
Paste wax does the trick.
Have you thought about fitting some kind of flywheel to help with momentum and consistently with the saw movement?
I really do not want to add any more weight to the system as more weight means I have to put more energy into it and there is far more than enough weight in the current flywheel to keep the saw going.
You’re not going to fit very many Knights at that round table, Sir James of Wright
It's okay. We can cut them into small pieces so they'll all fit.
legend
LOL
Hey, is there a recording of the livestream somewhere? I'd love to watch that tonight with beer and pizza :) If there isn't I'll just watch this :p
(sorry for the double comment, but I don't know if you watch the other channel for comments!)
Which live stream are you referring to? I do a live every Tuesday night at 8PM central time, and they are all recorded on the channel.
@@WoodByWright whoops, I somehow got the impression this was the edited version of a livestream :) really cool tool!
I really like the fact that you used all hand tools to fix a human powered saw. Also, you have tools and skills I couldn’t acquire in 2 lifetimes.
Super cool job James
when you cut the wood seems to run from you up and down , (unstable ) any solutions ?🤔 love your work James .👏
a little bit of bee wax on the blade maybe .
the problem with it lifting it the arm alignment and using a HUGE blade that easily bound up with the twist of the head. I just started with that blade to mess around with it. once I do a lot of the other twerks that will be far less of a problem.
@@WoodByWright that will be nice and good to go . 👏
about stanley planes I finally bought and felt the grip of mini beast # 7 it's outstanding .
Thanks mr I fell that you are my close master of woodworking 😊 .
Ok awsome im going to check them out
Whoo! I’m worn out just looking at that contraption of torture
LOL it is how to have fun in the shop!
Thank you for a very entertaining video. It's a shame that this type of video isn't shown in our public schools to get the young minds thinking of more simple things instead of watching a screen all day/night long. I, for one, appreciate seeing how things were done in the "old" days.
thanks Ray. my kids have no choice. they are forced to watch me. LOL
@@WoodByWright They will be the better for it. We need more of this type of learning/teaching.
The old ways aren't just for the old days!
You got the blade in upside down. Your up ripping. That's why that board is jumping for ya.
no it is cutting on the down stroke, the lifting is necause the head is leaning. that is one of the several items I need to adjust further.
Okay was just checking great work
Well done James on the restoration job , fantastic scroll saw. Love it
Thanks Garry.
that really cool that you got that up and running. great job
thanks David!
😎👍👍
What was the tool you lifted upon the wheel to weigh it down?
A post drill
that is actualy a post drill. it is the predecessor to the drill press designed mostly for metal work though it does have a few applications in the wood shop. I have another one I restored a wile ago (there is a video on that) and it is hanging on my wall now though I do not use it that often.
Thanks for sharing. Cool tools to restore. So satisfying
@@WoodByWright yeah i just kind of glanced at it i did think it looked more like a post drill but i assumed it was a beam drill because of how you said you might get one at the mwtca meet. Nice video btw :)
Whoa! This is channel just better and better. Thanks for sharing.
Carpentry cardio, cardio, cardio.
LOL thanks. my other hobby is ultra running. races that are longer then a marathon. 50K 50Mile 100K 100mile .etc.
@@WoodByWright I am famailar with ultra running. I am not a runner. But it is an admirable lifestyle.
I do backpack. But not nearly as far as a single race like yours.
this video reminds me why i subed
LOL thanks man!
Cant wait to see more restorations on old tools
I have a whole play list with restoration videos. i think it is over 40 tools I have videoed now.
These old treadle machines of all kinds are interesting and very well made as well as being functional particularly in the home workshops and farms in pre-electric and even pre steam days. And yes restoring them is great and this one is really very bice. But I’m prepared to bet that not one of those old craftsmen would vote to go back to using these old machines faced with the choice of foot power or steam/electrical/oil powered machines. Labour saving is at the basis of a great deal of progress in many many aspects of life. I suspect that this machine will be looked at more than it is actually used. With foot power one sacrifices much accuracy unless one is very adept at multitasking. Concentrating only on the cut in power tools makes for much better work. I admire your using the traditional craft which we should never lose sight of because we take a great deal for granted nowadays. Keep up the good work!
thanks. I do it just for the fun. I find this far more enjoyable then the power unites I was brought up on. but I am a bit twisted. LOL