Many of you will be questioning whether Fernando Diniz should still be in charge of Brazil. Patreon members can get my answer here: www.patreon.com/posts/is-fernando-man-93411142
No i don't think so, he is a interim coach like Ramon Menezes. Given the bad phase Brazil is on now, it is highly unlikely he will keep the job. Brazil is going to have to hire a new coach and someone a lot better.
The problem is that most if these Brazil player are Europeanized, imagine coming off positional play to this and having less training with the players🤦
Yea they needed a different coach that will work with what they know. Just because he has tactics that work at Fluminense doesn’t mean they’ll work with the national team.
Even though I think on paper Diniz outclassed Scaloni tactically, here we see the micro-aspects of the game come into play. Brazil had several 1v1s opportunities to score but were either saved or blocked by a defender. I think it just takes time for the youngsters to develop that experience. Whereas, Argentina had one good opportunity on goal and took it. Those little things add up in a game. And I really hope both Neymar and Messi can heal from their injuries. And I hate to see players develop chronic conditions like that.
Not just on paper. In the game as well. Tactically Brazil won the game. The flops up front screwed us. This team will only get better. As you've noticed, each call up by Diniz only gets better and better. Once Endrick/Vitor Roque, Vanderson, Paqueta, Estevao Willian get in the team along with Neymar, we won't just dominate south America but the world.
i agree that brazilian players need to develop but it's kind of irrelavant to have brazil play these tactics when they know Ancelotti will take over in 2024 and he change the strategy@@theflight5247
@@theflight5247not to generate a needless rivalry but our current squad save 5 players top are still young, the world cup winning team has at least 8 more years if all goes good, of course amongst those that will retire are Messi and Di Maria, but we also have up and coming youngsters like Nico Paz and Soule that can sort of fill that void. What I'm hoping the more is keeping as clean a competition between Argentina and Brasil as possible for years to come
@@JustKrin Scaloni's team has already peaked. It's not gonna get better from now on. Of course they want to continue winning. But what I'm noticing is that Uruguay is reviving, and Brazil with all the talents coming up in the u20s and u17s mixed with a few good older players are gonna own the next generation. I give it a year before this starts to become clear. Another team to watch out for is Spain. They've got a generation that's gonna explode in a few years. I don't see that in Argentina. The players you mention, they don't have the potential of world class players like Di Maria, Arguero, or Messi.
I am Argentinian and I must say: I believe you deserved to win or at least a draw. The attack was awful. The pressure was excellent. The defense... impossible to know. It was not a good match, neither for Br, neither for Ar. But, I saw clear improvements. Brazil, Uruguay, and Argentina know what this game it is all about. It flows in our veins. The talent is here! If there advantages depends on the organization, the freedom and frequency of kids playing... and I mean playing in the sense of enjoying (If you want a disruptive player he has to invent things while playing). Moreover, the population size (as our brothers from Uruguay always mention)... the economic resources... and the federation organization and work. You have the biggest population of the 3 countries. You have more resources... I do not know if the kids still play... but that is very long term. Maybe the problem is in the federation? It could not be worse than here... but the interine DT “thing” is a bad signal... so in the long term I have no doubt you will “come back”. In the short term... I am seeing you getting closer... as I said, there were massive improvements in the team. Not enough... yet. But you are in the way.
Diniz is a great coach, it was a great performance. Unfortunately, Brazil conceded the goal in their best moment of the game. We have to get better in crosses in the box, last 3 goals we conceded was there. Otherwise, we didn't let Argentina do anything, even while pkaying with 10 men.
@@theflight5247 I disagree in one (little) thing. Argentina controlled the game after the goal. Before the goal... “we” couldn´t surpass the pressure. BTW, Argentina is playing slow, imprecise and unimaginatively in these qualifications. It won... but to the weakest teams. Won to Brazil with guts and luck. But if it does not improve a lot... they are not going to be relevant.
@@majormononoke8958 Neymar is a completely different player from someone like De Bruyne. He is a player who tries take on other players 1 on 1 instead of trying to find a player in space with a pass. They need a De Bruyne type player who dictates the tempo and direction of play and creates chances primarily. Neymar isn't a playmaker (though he can be) Neymar is a wide forward. They've got plenty of dribblers, they need a passer on the level of De Bruyne
We did lose to Argentina, but from my perspective it was the best match under Diniz's management. Yes, the team did lack effectiveness, and there's still an apparent lack of chemistry, since this team is just starting to play together. But Argentina didn't create a single GS opportunity in 90 minutes and found their way into scoring in an awesome header from Otamendi in a dead ball situation. About the playmaker, it is Neymar, he is the guy for it. And I do think Rodrygo has the potential and the skills to be a good replacement, but it will probably take time. About Ganso, he is one of my favorite players to watch, he is a football genius, but he lacks the intensity that is just necessary in modern football. Also, it was a bad game offensively, but Neymar, Vini and Paquetá are out, which makes it much more difficult. Once again, the biggest problem now is that there is a crisis, and we have no idea where the team is going. Diniz has four more matches in his contract and there is no signal whatsoever that he'll stay after that, so what is the point of going through this rough transition of styles if it ain't gonna last? I do believe he is coming, but in a scenario where Ancelotti doesn't come, CBF's President Ednaldo Rodrigues has no Plan B, and the last two years of preparation for the World Cup will turn into a huge question mark.
Here in Argentina we think Brazil has the worst squad ever. We respect Brazilian football a lot but you won´t go anywhere with Rodrygo. Also, you don´t have a striker which is the absolute key to Brazilian dominance since the sport has existed. Argentina started winning when we went back to our basics, rough play in the back, passes, and dribbling forward.
Couldn't agree more with you. The tempo of the game looked way more aggressive compared to the previous matches played under Diniz and Brazil was the better team on the pitch except for the fouls made but luck didn't favour us.
Argentina weren’t at their best in this international break, they are always improving. Their defense is a brick wall which is surprising because they have a trash right back and otamendi being a horrible cb. They also lack a cdm and young wingers. Once they acquire those talents they will reach new heights
I genuinely want Diniz to succeed because I'm aesthetically in love with his style. However, I think it might be too difficult with the Seleção. With Fluminense he has the advantage of working with the team everyday and he can pick players based on his needs. With the Seleção he only has them during international breaks and that's harder to change how the players play. That and as some have already mentioned, many very good players simply play too European to fit into this system, but based on skill level it's hard to exclude them. Maybe that's unfortunately the route he should go.
@@marcosdheleno I don't disagree. I would only say that this means it's unfortunate we will probably never get a real test for his style since it's going to be so difficult to adapt to the international game.
Despite Brazil having several disapponting losses in the last matches, is noticeable an evolution, a progress of the players in Diniz's tactical scheme. Honestly I'm not impressed by the loss, by the way, but the point here is to don't lose the hope in Fernando Diniz, he's improving - slowly, but improving 🙏
You mentioning the necessity of a playmaker in this Brazil team just reminded me of how frustrated I am that Lucas Paquetá didnt get called up because of the investigation. He would fit so well in this team, in Diniz's style of play and be that playmaker when Neymar is not around. He is the only brazillian player I can think that has the quality for the Seleção and has that "tempo setter" quality talked about in the video. He has been playing so well for the last months, ever since he was speculated at Man City he just decided to eat the ball in every game. Not calling him up has hurt the national team. Should've let him play while the investigation is ongoing since he is also playing for his club with no trouble.
De verdad si estan teniendo mejoras, la intencidad con la que salieron en el primer tiempo fue brutal, como el liverpool de 2018, pero esa intencidad no es del todo buena ya que lleva a un desgaste tremendo. Bruno es un jugador de elite, pero su tiempo en el newcastle lo a trasformado en un jugador mas de destrucción que de creación
I do think that Argentina played better against Uruguay than against Brazil. It seems that constant high pressure can easily complicate Argentina, specially if Messi and Enzo are not able to perform their best. Uruguay was a fair winner against Arg as per tactics and performance. Against Brazil, Arg was able to win almost exclusively due to good defender work (specially from Romero and Acuña) and Brazil no taking advantage of the goal situations they had (at least 2 of them we're really good). If they continue through this path, hopefully they Will find that missing player. I woukd love to see "jogo bonito" again, south america really needs of Arg, Bra and Uru at their best (and Colombia also, they donhave amazing players).
dinizism is a lie, you gringos don't know how many teams this guy has ruined before his lucky run in the corrunt season, one that is extremely atypical due to the greatest times in BR ony coming to grips on the end of the season (see the weak botafogo side leading the league for most of the year only to finish 5th).
Raphael Veiga played very well actually. Combine him with Andre and Paqueta and we will have a good team. Put in Vitor Roque and Talisca and vini JR in attack. Bench Marquinhos and have Nino and Magalhaes in defence. Don't call Emerson Royal, instead call up a young rb from brazil, we have many. Put augusto as LB and Allison in goal. For the bench we can have Paulinho, Rodrygo, Martinelli, Everton Cebolinha,endrick. Then we need playmaker so call up Ganso(why not). If we have a strong team like this then maybe diniz can accomplish what he wants. I think he had bad selections for the last data fifa.
Love the vid, but would also have liked for you to talk about how Brazil is also missing someone like De Paul, someone that does the dirty work and is not afraid of putting the body on the line, partly I think that is why Argentina came out on top is that De Paul took over the mid field presence in both sides almost acting like a 5th defender Brazil had to go through before even meeting Otamendi and Romero
The big issue is CBF putting a very young coach while also coaching for another team with very unorthodox ideas AND with set date. Just a recipe for disaster
You hype something up way beyond it's real importance or value just to make a video later "not understanding" what is happening. Guess you saw that making content about brazilian football draws views.
5:02 I was just thinking this, Brazil isn’t France and is tryna play like France. Most successful teams have a play maker, and Brazil hasn’t had one for real, in a long time. You look at Argentina for example, they’ve had Di Maria and then Messi has play lakers alongside lo censo, Enzo Fernandez now too. These guys can pass, and they can actually slow down games when they need to. Brazil is not France, and France at the moment is the only top team in the world imo that doesn’t need a slow paced player who can just make plays. Brazil have fast players and you can think of them as being able to copy France. But they can’t imo. They don’t have a lethal striker anymore, and honestly are kinda stuck in 2015-2020 Spain. -obviously Spain somehow got morata to always score even against good teams. But brazil? They really got nothing at the moment. And other comments mentioned this, but their top Brazilian players are really like system players now, and aren’t that good at scoring. Basically what I’m saying is that Brazil is really bad at attacking at the moment, oh I guess they are like Bayern before Kane. Yeah last years Bayern is basically Brazil at the moment. And that means they definitely aren’t gonna beat better teams than them any time soon.
See I have a very different take on this match. Different than the general opinion. So feel free me to criticize me for that. I think Brazil was the better side, much better. I think Argentina got lucky due to not good refereeing. The red card was very wrong.
And I don't know why the referee kept stopping the game for mere push fouls that could've been played for advantage. This start-stop momentum was very detrimental to the quality of the game.
Yes, you are right about the game, against Argentina was really better than Colombia for example, Argentina was pretty bad tho, but about relational play, it demands time to training, a thing that a national team will never have enough, in Fluminense he take like a year and a half training constantly to have that chemistry, anyway Ancelotti is the new coach of Brazil in next year then we will back to positional play
There is no such thing as luck, Argentina put on a masterclass defensive performance even with Argentina having a little crisis behind closed doors about the coach not being paid his fair share of money. Especially since Argentina are lacking wingers, a cdm l, and a quality rb.
Never lost a home game in the World Cup qualifiers EVER until now?! Sorry but that is neither a coincidence, nor a mark of their infallible quality. There have been plenty of less than stellar Brazil teams before this. Law of averages would have caught up with them long before this. The only difference is that Brazil used to have CONMEBOL in their pocket. They used to play with 14 players at home. Now in the age of VAR and social media dissectors etc., they have been forced to give up that advantage. It was only a matter of time.
the problem with the "Dniniz-ism" strategy is that it doesnt work if the players themselves dont have the time to practice and absorb its functionality. which in a national team is basically impossible to happen, as they only have a couple of weeks at most to train before going back and erasing everything they learned. only to repeat the cycle again next time they are selected to play for the seleçao. for a team, that can build and understand it? sure, its great, but its not for a national team. which it was considered a gamble, that didnt pay off. ironically, the ONLY player to actually absorb and be able to make it work with his own playstyle was Neymar. the rest of the team was completely lost, between what Diniz want them to do, and the years of conditioning and training they have ingrained in their muscles.
In my opinion as a Fluminense supporter and a fan of Diniz's work choosing him as a coach for the national team was a mistake. First there's the issue of him having to share his atention between both his club and the seleção, but more importantly, Diniz is a proponent of a very different and new football philosophy, it is difficult for players to adapt if they aren't practicing regularly with him as is the case with the seleção.
I don't think it's injury: Messi is 36 years old, age has caught up. The front two of Argentina was very weak. Brazil should've capitalized on the emotional weakness of Argentina in the first half itself.
@@Coach-rq6jxArgentina is insanely great team, and with trash players like Molina, De Paul, Otamendi, and Nico González. I’m surprised they are that good with them being weak on the winger, cdm, and right back positions. If they can find quality youngsters for those positions they can go back to back world cups
He is interim, but the problem is that there is a mafia where the players that businessmen want play, to value them and sell them to Europe, which is why we suffer from this disastrous team.
It's funny how people are ignoring the performance in Colombia match. This match against Argentina Diniz used a proto-Tite strategy. If he used his strategy from last matches Argentina would score more.
I mean…you need the players to do the tasks you are asking them to do. Let’s be honest, South American football is drastically different from what these more European-based players are used to and if you want to teach them to play this way, you need way more time than just a week or two. The alternative solution would be to bring Brazilians from South American leagues to the national team, and it might work, but then there’s the fear of literally being outplayed if the players aren’t up to par. Argentina had this problem too just recently where they included a bunch of good players from river plate and boca juniors, but now not only are these players aren’t performing on the international stage, their European teammates are also starting to misfire
The only problem is the team is really bad. I havenow idea who are these players. And I am from Brazil! But I know Messi, Di Maria, James Rodriguez, Suarez...
No need to dive deep, Brazil without Neymar is shit. Now without Neymar AND Casemiro it's beyond shit. Also Diniz shouldn't ever be a NT manager. His style relies heavily on training and everyone being on the same page, this is not gonna happen in any NT.
It's generational. These current players are soft, weak, lack grit. If you watch games from the 90s to early 2000s you can see the difference, those dudes were committed not worried about their looks, midia, tattoos, haircuts and all that bs. Now players make sure to get a fresh haircut before a game lol. That's just an example of this fresa generation. Brasil is done.
These players leave straight from the u-20 teams to a mid table Premier League club and have absolutely never experienced pressure or having to prove themselves. They are barely Brazilian, I bet they speak Portuguese with foreign accent. The very few who actually went through at least one full season in a top Brazilian club are exactly the few ones who are worth shit in this team: Neymar, Vini Jr, Rodrygo, Endrick. If you play in a crappy village team like Brighton or Wolverhampton you are not good enough for the national team.
for who understand futbol . i don´t saw the video but i will shared with you my view. andre and nino from fluminense are already use it witu the game of diniz and they try to go in a block space but the other players keeping rotating like a positional game, so need time only.
I’ve said this in many occasions that football today isn’t the same as before. The remnants of the OG football are Messi and C. Ronaldo. When these 2 retire, the sport will become just a sport. The difference between today’s football and before is that everything today have been europeanised and they all play like robots or AI bots. It’s like these new players are created in a lab or a video game. Whereas before, every player had their own individual characteristics of playing, hence why they were able to create a name for themselves. There was actually original arts in their play. Today, every player, club and international levels, play the same way. No differences. Very boring. All they care about is being pretty feminine boys covered with tattoos. In terms of Brazil, the last great blue-chip player that will be remembered in history is Ronaldinho. He was the last of the great dragons for Brazil. After him, I can’t see anyone who can make a mark. I worry about football when Messi and C.Ronaldo go. No more big names will be created.
Their best players are hurt. They have great goalies but overall the team has few world class players. The start of the video seems pure hyperbole. The team has relied on individual talent for quite awhile so I don't think presently with the players he has this is a big deal and should not surprise anyone. I would in an instant swap places to be Brazil losing to Argentina rather than the US losing to Trinidad Tobago. That game was disgraceful. Some of our European mercenaries that were not good enough to play for their own countries so they chose to play for the US are not turning out to be that great.
To be honest and everybody ain't saying thisBrazil players arent good enough there's no flair and quality they just keep falling down trying to get a free quick they don't go pass players like the 1990s and 2000s. When they play for their euro teams they are not consistent as well. They need help in their academys..
The problem with Diniz's Brazil lies in the erosion of European playing habits among the playmakers. It was painful to witness Bruno repeatedly disrupt the system and lose possession due to impatience. I believe that if Neymar returns with Paquetá, they could transform this team into a formidable squad. Diniz's game is strong in fast passes and short dribbles; however, they tend to carry the ball too much and resort to the long ball too frequently. We can see the tatics are there, but they struggle against ingrained unconscious habits in the players.
@@darkgenesis342he meant patience in attack build up. Many european Brazilian players resort to the long ball or wide too quickly, when the point of this tactic is to do very quick short passes in a small area to force yourself through due to the high amount of players u have in that small space
also they have a lot more time, diniz works with brazil for like 15 days every 3-4 months, and while he is not with brazil he has to train fluminense and play a cup final like he did this last month. time plays a big role in a style that is not even close to what the players are used to playing and the fact that diniz cant really focus 100% of his time to brainstorm ways to do what he wants more efficiently plays a big role, imo.@@darkgenesis342
Hear me out, do you think on chance that Brazil's downfall is part of a wider "grand shift" in football? Cause Brazil isn't the only traditionally big team going through dreadful form at the moment, of course there's Germany too but **arguably** also Italy and Netherlands too. It seems that some former major teams had a downward spiral post 2014 World Cup, especially after the old guard retired. If I had to wager a guess I would assume it has something to do with how the up and coming talents are trained with their country's own unique style of playing football but football has shifted tactically against their special styles and so they are struggling to adapt in this new environment. I am reaching for straws here honestly but thought this was interesting enough to share. I probably sound really dumb though, so feel free to ignore my comment. 🗿 Great video, btw as always. Keep up the great work, mate, cheers.
Not really. It's about talent and generation. Only Neymar is world class in this Brazilian generation. In the current squad, the only good players are Martinelli, Andre, Allisson, and our defenders. However, the u17 and u20 generation are full of world class talents. They don't just have one Neymar, but all of them are talented. We don't just have one world class forward, but at least, AT LEAST 4. It's just a matter of time. In two years Brazil will be Brazil again.
I agree, everybody plays the same way, those were the countries that had a "signature style" and were a challenge to everybody else because of that. Now everybody plays together in the same clubs and. have the same training. For example, at least with Brazil I can attest that part of the issue is that not enough time is being spent on training kids on rudiments and individual technique. That's what Brazil excelled at for so long. Kids would spend hours practicing the way of kicking the ball in its most basic sense to then learn tactics and be given a position. Think back of the past in Brazil, you had center backs that were almost as good as attacking midfielders at dribbling and handling the ball. You had so many player free kick options on every game. Now most are faster and better physically equipped because they're "packed and. shipped" to europe by age 18 without that level of basic rudimentary training. Anyway, your theory is similar to the one I have about this.
I’d argue it’s the opposite, teams are not playing the style that they used to. Brazil were playing JDP like a European team in the last World Cup. Argentina were poor in the 2018 World Cup when playing under Sampaoli who is also a JDP manager, things turned around when Scaloni has changed the tactics in his time in charge. Other instances like Holland and Italy I think it is player quality as well as tactical problems. Spain in a similar situation despite Nations League victory, they are miles off what they were a decade ago
Thats nice comment but.. When you said "player is trained with it country specific style and cant adapt to new footballing style" i think thats the other ways around... Players who are very used to the modern game system at their club cannot adapt to the conditions of the national team because the modern tactic at their club is just following the system. And we know club football and national team is two different things. If we learn from Messi and Zidane interview is there is no leader or that centered player as solid structure for a team in modern tactic anymore.. That one centered man that can think outside of the box(system) is sometime needed when come to national team just look at big strong team like France with Griezman and Argentina with Messi..
@BIazyI was with you till your initial Mancini criticism before leading Italy to the Euros win Italy went 37 consecutive matches without defeat which is a record. Italy up there with Spain was one of the best teams in the tournament and played great fast paced attacking football, Mancini got his tactics spot on throughout and to get back into the final so it wasn't down to luck. After the Euros win Mancini should have gotten rid of the old guard and start plotting a new young fresh team for the world cup but he and the team got very complacent
As a brazilian, what frustrates me the most about the national team is, by far, the fans. Seriously, anytime something goes wrong with theam or we don't have the best results possible, they start trash talking. And they don't spare anyone. We have amazing players who are among the best in the world, and play their heart out for the national team. Yet, people will make fun of them and question their skills because of one loss or mistake. Gosh, sometimes the fans will complain about the players even after a victory.
Well, its not just a situation where something goes wrong or that there aren't the best results possible, this Brazil with Diniz is breaking record in the bad performance, like losing for the first time ever for colombia and for argentina at home
Pooo cara, sou obrigado a concordar. Mas uma possível causa pra isso é culpa, talvez, da história da seleção. Está que teve nomes pesados por muuuuuito tempo
Brazil football has a depression, in order to treat a depression, you need an extensive therapy, discipline, consistency and positive environment, the celasao spectacular football era is over, the modern football imposes collective endurance to achieve goals, like once someone said: “ Brazilian national team's players p party to much to win anything“, that's the painful truth that some refuse the hear. Respect to Brazil football team that I love.
Pois é, alguns jogadores não se adaptaram e quando começaram a entender melhor o esquema como contra a Argentina, não tinha um cara pra ditar o ritmo como dito no vídeo, o cargo ficou pro Rodrygo que não sabe fazer isso... arrisco até a dizer que se o Diniz levasse o Ganso pra seleção podia resolver o problema nessas últimas duas partidas. Mas enfim, a seleção tá com uma zika danada desde 2002, tô achando que alguém daquele elenco fez alguma promessa e não cumpriu kkkk lembra da Argentina que em 2014 foi cumprir a promessa de décadas atrás, chegou na final da copa, e dps venceu tudo...
É simples, 9 jogadores da seleção Brasileira são gerenciados pelo mesmo empresário, ou seja, essa seleção foi escalada pela ganância e não pelo mérito dos jogadores que realmente mereciam estar lá.
With all the quality they have it's hard to understand how they struggle so much. Hope they bounce back as quickly as possible because they are a very entertaining team at their best.
A crisis of coaching and coordination. A 20 year crisis in the making, actually. With most players building their careers in Europe and with less opportunities to learn their team members, we haven't been able to trasnalte talent into consistent good plays. The big debate in Brazil right now, of course, is how to find a way forward in this scenario.
Diniz is just a provisional coach of Brazil team, at least this is what supporters are aware since CBF told in many interviews the desire to have Ancelotti as coach of the team. Since he's in Real Madrid this is not possible until June of next year, for now, as a supporter, I see three things that are making the team bad in the moment: 1. Diniz vision is really easy to understand but not that easy to replicate in real game, it demands time of training to get a good chemistry like Fluminense team for example, thing that a national team don't have. 2. The players are not that confident to bow in his vision since he just a provisional coach and everything will be blow up when Ancelotti or another positional play coach lead the team 3. A lot of core players injured, not confortable, or not really experimented in the new scheme.
In sports teams go through phases, and the same problems Brazil has had other big teams like Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Argentina, Uruguay, England, Spain have had as well. It is a very competitive global sport and sometimes shit coaches, bad call ups and injuries can undermine the performance of a highly talented national team. The question now is if Brazil can build a new team and renovate so it can return to try to compete for world titles again being the greatest men's team in the history of the game. The next world cup the competition will be even bigger in 2026 with 48 teams. It is a challenge to see how a national team overcomes its crisis and bad phases.
It's not like there's necessarily a deadline tho. If Brazil can't win in 2026, then there still many more after. They're still holding the most WC wins for 32 teams participate, now, it's just like a new phase, new era, like usual challenge if they can become Champion again while competing with another 48 nations. Looking at it that way, it's not so bad. It's just the beginning, if things go in the right direction.
The competition for the world's most popular sport has increased over time for both the men and women's competition. Brazil once upon a time with their men's team was the best in the world. But unless they clean up the problems with corruption in the Brazilian federation, get the right coach and right players they can't compete for world cups like before. While Brazil men's team are 5 time world champions, since 2002 they have not world a world championship since their last world title in Japan and South korea@@thangngudxop
Brazil just aint the great badass team that they once were....The last time Argentina came on their home turf, they beat Brazil in their own stadium & won the Copa America....now Argentina beating them once again in their own stadium at a WC qualifier....bear in mind this was at least a far better performance from Brazil than the last horrid match they played...but still loss inspite of their world class talents that Brazil have on their team..
I seriously question the efficiency of Diniz's tactics. Sure, he won a Libertadores with a "middle of the table" team and the way he managed Flumiense to the final was commendable, but never free of risk. In multiple occasions the "mini-games" within the games of Fluminenses winning campaign could have gone bad were not for one man: German Cano. This guy single-handedly tipped the balance in Fluminense's favour multiple times, including in the final match. He is a unique striker who probably never heard of xG's per shot zone. The way his mind works probably goes like this: "if I can see the white on the goalie's eyes, I will take the shot". I want to say that some 50% of the goals this man scored have very little to do with Diniz's tactics and more to do with his individual characteristics. He doesn't need to be "in the right" place to take a shot nor he needs the team to build him a good opportunity. Fluminenses' goalie could dispatch the ball from his own box and find Cano in the mid-field with two defenders on him and the man would probably take a shot at the goal from there "just because". He takes wild chances and scores and I think a lot of people fail to see how German Cano masked many of the flaws on Fluminenses' tactics. With that said, I want to point out that Brazil does not have anything close to a German Cano. Richarlison, Jesus, Endrick... none of them are near the state of grace Cano achieved in 2023 and when you combine that with a team who doesn't fully understand what the coach is trying to do you have a disaster in your hands. Brasil x Argentina was the best match Brasil played ever since Diniz took over. Analyze the other games under his management I guarantee you gonna have two bleeding eyes by the end of it.
As a Brazilian, it is unbelievable the amount of patience Diniz is getting from CBF. Believe me, before Tite, any coach with this number of losses would be fired right away. He made a huge amount of mistakes, especially with his substitutions over the last three games (it takes forever for him to change the team and he ALWAYS adds the new players in positions they are not used to playing). The Brazilian team is not a place for experiments, he is breaking negative records all the time. If CBF wants to try it, they should hire Diniz for the Brazilian Sub-20 team, not our main team. Our team was totally lost in the first two games, and I believe we did a better job against Argentina because the players didn't want to lose that game at all costs, but our team is a mess, a TOTAL mess.
a ideia de colocar o diniz primeiro no sub-20 seria interessante,pra ver se o trabalho dele seria proveitoso em seleção,porem eu simplemente não entendo o que se passa na mente dos manda-chuvas da cbf pra ter feito estas ultimas decisoes.
Honestly it's weird how CBF is trying a new playstyle just to trow It away with another positional coach in the near future. Why even bother changing so much just to go back to the old ways?
I mean, thats actually the best thing to do, just play with dizin, theres few years of work before the world cup, they could really become legendary if they keep working, giving an opportunity and then give up on the trust would be dumb, so diniz should stay at any cost, having hum un the u21 wouldnt be a great choice, and i think he'll have better teams that would gonna ask for him, with all the respect
If this guy was treated as the other Brazilian managers are, he would be in the depths of Serie D by now as every job he has until this stint at Fluminense was a catastrophic failure. He would fail, and instead of dropping a level would go on to manage an even better team afterwards, and so on. A piece of trivia here: He called up 7 players that have the same agent as him. In Brazil those things are typically not coincidence.
Bem acho que a única coisa que falta para a seleção brasileira atualmente um centro avante finalizador. Da pra ver claramente o quanto falta um jogador pra chutar a bola no gol.
falta 1 goleiro que defenda 1 chuta a gol pelo menos, 1 atacante que não ganhe 200 milhoes em um clube e fique 90% do tempo "machucado" mamando dinheiro do clube em putas e menos em futebol, brasil só tem zageiros, o resto se você por os jogadores de qualquer seleção, vão servir melhor
The 4-2-4 of Diniz is not working for Brazil. The team has no middle and no depth. He needs to work with the pieces he has and not try to fit the pieces into his game philosophy.
I knew he wouldn't work with the National Team, players don't have enough time to adapt to his style which is extremely radical to modern football. Imagine Gabriel Magalhaes going from Arteta to this, it's just too much.
@@lucgh2007one thing he can do is dropping these players it is huge risk and would put lot of pressure on him but he wouldn't get results until either he switches his whole philosophy or he dropps some big names and invites players that match his style more
Brazil's press was intense, but the amounts of faults would cause more yellow cards in any away match. It wasn't even 5 minutes and they already had 2 or 3 hits that should have been carded.
@@サッカーの王様ペレ hey, if that makes you feel better, ok. Quite possible it's true, and when Argentina starts getting called they'll have the same issue. But this game in particular, it wasn't Argentina who made 25 faults in the first half. What I said is that I don't think that kind of pressing is sustainable. One referee that actually cards the players and it will crumble awfully.
Last video you made about Dinizismo I commented saying I trusted the project. I still do. Amazing defensive analysis, and attack analysis is ALWAYS the same, players are addicted to european football. Brazil has MUCH talent, but RAW talent. We need a metronome, Ganso is a good option and I think he should be given a chance! About Neymar, I don't agree he should be the metronome, his time has passed, last world cup was his last chance. This crisis is about how we are creating players and to do what? Last great Brazilian talents are almost ALL wingers. There are no players like Kaka, Rivaldo and etc, whom could do the playmaker role under Dinizismo works. For now I'd give it a chance for Ganso and Paquetá.
Ganso is a couple of years older than Neymar. I believe Neymar not only comprehends the tactics but also excels at improvisation; he's a genius as well
Yes, I dont think Neymar would add the tempo, he's unfortunately is not the player to dictate the rhythm of the game. He keeps the ball for too long and he does a lot of unproductive things in the midfield, so this doesnt help with tempo
Neymar in PSG often do that role especially before Messi came.. I agree Neymar is old already so his pace and skill is decreasing but if he learn from Messi and try to be more conservative with his energy i think he can still do that bc he has good pass and vision too..
I've followed the cycle of eight World Cups, from 1994 until now. In 6 of these, Brazil has won practically everything, but has failed in the exact World Cup. In 2 of these, Brazil had a difficult time and qualified for the World Cup in the last qualifying match (almost missing out World Cup) but then went on to win the World Cup. I'm very confident so! The 2026 World Cup is ours!
Personally, I regret it a lot. With this style, philosophy, Diniz should be Brazil national coach about 10 years ago. That might be the last Brazil generation fits for this style though I hope they're not the last (Ganso, Pato, Neymar, Lucas Moura, Robinho, Marcelo, Dani Alves,...). Unlucky, that generation was led by coaches who has European style, not Brazil style. Nowadays, many Brazil players came to Europe too early and their style. That gave them more success but also made them lose their natural style. I like your videos about Diniz style and Riquelme a lot. Hope you can make a video about Ganso, he deserves it
I know it's probably not your fault and you probably google images of people with brazil's uniform... but one of the photos you've shown as "mad brazilian football crowd" is actually from a heavy political uprising... and since politics is very polarized... you may have some mad brazilian ppl here complaining about the photo... just sending you feedback! your content is amazing and your videos on football are always great.
The point is that today's Brazilian players learn from a young age to develop tactics and physics to the detriment of developing technique and skills. In the past, the fundamentals (passing, shooting, dominating, heading, crossing, etc...) were the most important things for the development of players in the youth categories, and then when they went to Europe they started to develop more physical aspects. and tactics. Tele Santana (former coach known for his "art football" style) once said: "the fundamentals of football are the most important thing. There's no point in teaching a super elaborate tactic if he can't execute it."
Paquetá can be this playmaker, the best Fluminense this year had 3 midfielders (André, Martinelli and Ganso as a playmaker), I believe that when Paquetá returns from this push aside Brasil will have some improvements
Tbf, they were only saying that it would be a revolution for Brazil. And it could be if not for the fact that, since this is such a different style, the players go back to their clubs and by the time the international break comes back, they forget a lot. Diniz would need a whole lot more time, and maybe he's never gonna be able to succeed.
And he is, at least for how football is played nowadays. But he has to work on two different teams, with different players, different goals and different expectations. In the national team he didn't have the time he has at Fluminense, and he's only there until Ancelotti takes his place so it's not really worth it to try train them to play the way he wants..
@@nickroitman6743 That being said, I hope Ancelotti extends with us at Real Madrid. He's someone that can be trusted with. There's no one more experienced than him at this point. And our youngsters have to grow. Who better than Ancelotti to do that?
Many of you will be questioning whether Fernando Diniz should still be in charge of Brazil. Patreon members can get my answer here: www.patreon.com/posts/is-fernando-man-93411142
Where do u normally watch repeating matches
É melhor ele sair mesmo
I hope he stays for the future of Brazilian football. The signs are promising and scary for opponents.
@@theflight5247 😂😂😂😂😂
No i don't think so, he is a interim coach like Ramon Menezes. Given the bad phase Brazil is on now, it is highly unlikely he will keep the job. Brazil is going to have to hire a new coach and someone a lot better.
The problem is that most if these Brazil player are Europeanized, imagine coming off positional play to this and having less training with the players🤦
Exactlymthe problem. No time to learn the movements/patterns and adjust, then they go back to their clubs and unlearn what little they did learn
Already said weeks ago
It’s a factor but hardly the main problem
Yea they needed a different coach that will work with what they know. Just because he has tactics that work at Fluminense doesn’t mean they’ll work with the national team.
No. Nonpositional is absolute garbage. I'm glad it failed at the world stage for all to see.
Even though I think on paper Diniz outclassed Scaloni tactically, here we see the micro-aspects of the game come into play. Brazil had several 1v1s opportunities to score but were either saved or blocked by a defender. I think it just takes time for the youngsters to develop that experience. Whereas, Argentina had one good opportunity on goal and took it. Those little things add up in a game.
And I really hope both Neymar and Messi can heal from their injuries. And I hate to see players develop chronic conditions like that.
Not just on paper. In the game as well. Tactically Brazil won the game. The flops up front screwed us. This team will only get better. As you've noticed, each call up by Diniz only gets better and better. Once Endrick/Vitor Roque, Vanderson, Paqueta, Estevao Willian get in the team along with Neymar, we won't just dominate south America but the world.
Messi is not as injured as Neymar
i agree that brazilian players need to develop but it's kind of irrelavant to have brazil play these tactics when they know Ancelotti will take over in 2024 and he change the strategy@@theflight5247
@@theflight5247not to generate a needless rivalry but our current squad save 5 players top are still young, the world cup winning team has at least 8 more years if all goes good, of course amongst those that will retire are Messi and Di Maria, but we also have up and coming youngsters like Nico Paz and Soule that can sort of fill that void. What I'm hoping the more is keeping as clean a competition between Argentina and Brasil as possible for years to come
@@JustKrin Scaloni's team has already peaked. It's not gonna get better from now on. Of course they want to continue winning. But what I'm noticing is that Uruguay is reviving, and Brazil with all the talents coming up in the u20s and u17s mixed with a few good older players are gonna own the next generation. I give it a year before this starts to become clear. Another team to watch out for is Spain. They've got a generation that's gonna explode in a few years. I don't see that in Argentina. The players you mention, they don't have the potential of world class players like Di Maria, Arguero, or Messi.
Please do a tactical analysis of Germany. Their performance is currently absolutely disastrous.
I'm brazilian and I came here seeking for this very answer. Please tell me, because looking from the inside all I see is chaos and destruction
I am Argentinian and I must say: I believe you deserved to win or at least a draw. The attack was awful. The pressure was excellent. The defense... impossible to know. It was not a good match, neither for Br, neither for Ar. But, I saw clear improvements.
Brazil, Uruguay, and Argentina know what this game it is all about. It flows in our veins. The talent is here!
If there advantages depends on the organization, the freedom and frequency of kids playing... and I mean playing in the sense of enjoying (If you want a disruptive player he has to invent things while playing).
Moreover, the population size (as our brothers from Uruguay always mention)... the economic resources... and the federation organization and work.
You have the biggest population of the 3 countries. You have more resources... I do not know if the kids still play... but that is very long term. Maybe the problem is in the federation? It could not be worse than here... but the interine DT “thing” is a bad signal... so in the long term I have no doubt you will “come back”.
In the short term... I am seeing you getting closer... as I said, there were massive improvements in the team. Not enough... yet. But you are in the way.
Diniz is a great coach, it was a great performance. Unfortunately, Brazil conceded the goal in their best moment of the game. We have to get better in crosses in the box, last 3 goals we conceded was there. Otherwise, we didn't let Argentina do anything, even while pkaying with 10 men.
@@mr.devbrian5932Nah we need Carlo Ancelotti.
dw you arent alone, we germans feel the same about our team👍
@@theflight5247 I disagree in one (little) thing. Argentina controlled the game after the goal. Before the goal... “we” couldn´t surpass the pressure.
BTW, Argentina is playing slow, imprecise and unimaginatively in these qualifications. It won... but to the weakest teams. Won to Brazil with guts and luck.
But if it does not improve a lot... they are not going to be relevant.
Broooooo you are made for this
Things are not going well for Brazil 🇧🇷 🔥
That intro!!
Why that emoji ¿?
brazil seems to have lacked playmakers for awhile now. They never had issues in the front line and industrious box to box midfielders.
Exactly. Imagine if they had Prime Modic or De Bruyne. That's what they've lacked in the last 3 world cups
Isnt NEymar a playmaker?
@@majormononoke8958 he is. But what's the point if he's always injured? I feel sorry for him
@@majormononoke8958 Neymar is a completely different player from someone like De Bruyne. He is a player who tries take on other players 1 on 1 instead of trying to find a player in space with a pass. They need a De Bruyne type player who dictates the tempo and direction of play and creates chances primarily. Neymar isn't a playmaker (though he can be) Neymar is a wide forward. They've got plenty of dribblers, they need a passer on the level of De Bruyne
We always had playmakers, our coaches are just dumb.
We did lose to Argentina, but from my perspective it was the best match under Diniz's management. Yes, the team did lack effectiveness, and there's still an apparent lack of chemistry, since this team is just starting to play together. But Argentina didn't create a single GS opportunity in 90 minutes and found their way into scoring in an awesome header from Otamendi in a dead ball situation.
About the playmaker, it is Neymar, he is the guy for it. And I do think Rodrygo has the potential and the skills to be a good replacement, but it will probably take time. About Ganso, he is one of my favorite players to watch, he is a football genius, but he lacks the intensity that is just necessary in modern football. Also, it was a bad game offensively, but Neymar, Vini and Paquetá are out, which makes it much more difficult.
Once again, the biggest problem now is that there is a crisis, and we have no idea where the team is going. Diniz has four more matches in his contract and there is no signal whatsoever that he'll stay after that, so what is the point of going through this rough transition of styles if it ain't gonna last? I do believe he is coming, but in a scenario where Ancelotti doesn't come, CBF's President Ednaldo Rodrigues has no Plan B, and the last two years of preparation for the World Cup will turn into a huge question mark.
Here in Argentina we think Brazil has the worst squad ever. We respect Brazilian football a lot but you won´t go anywhere with Rodrygo. Also, you don´t have a striker which is the absolute key to Brazilian dominance since the sport has existed. Argentina started winning when we went back to our basics, rough play in the back, passes, and dribbling forward.
Couldn't agree more with you. The tempo of the game looked way more aggressive compared to the previous matches played under Diniz and Brazil was the better team on the pitch except for the fouls made but luck didn't favour us.
Argentina weren’t at their best in this international break, they are always improving. Their defense is a brick wall which is surprising because they have a trash right back and otamendi being a horrible cb. They also lack a cdm and young wingers. Once they acquire those talents they will reach new heights
I genuinely want Diniz to succeed because I'm aesthetically in love with his style. However, I think it might be too difficult with the Seleção. With Fluminense he has the advantage of working with the team everyday and he can pick players based on his needs. With the Seleção he only has them during international breaks and that's harder to change how the players play. That and as some have already mentioned, many very good players simply play too European to fit into this system, but based on skill level it's hard to exclude them. Maybe that's unfortunately the route he should go.
but that's the problem, his style does not work, if the players dont have the time to understand and make it work.
@@marcosdheleno I don't disagree. I would only say that this means it's unfortunate we will probably never get a real test for his style since it's going to be so difficult to adapt to the international game.
@@nobletstrength and that's the issue with the system. he simply does not have enough time to make it work.
Despite Brazil having several disapponting losses in the last matches, is noticeable an evolution, a progress of the players in Diniz's tactical scheme. Honestly I'm not impressed by the loss, by the way, but the point here is to don't lose the hope in Fernando Diniz, he's improving - slowly, but improving 🙏
Brazillian fans already hunting him.
unfortunately ,here in Brazil the fans are already demanding diniz's head on a plate
You're on the spot.
O cara me coloca a imagem de invasão do CONGRESSO, achando que é revolta contra CBF kkkkk
Os bolsonaristas iam com a camisa da seleçao, isso deve confundir muito os gringos kkkkkkkk
You mentioning the necessity of a playmaker in this Brazil team just reminded me of how frustrated I am that Lucas Paquetá didnt get called up because of the investigation.
He would fit so well in this team, in Diniz's style of play and be that playmaker when Neymar is not around. He is the only brazillian player I can think that has the quality for the Seleção and has that "tempo setter" quality talked about in the video.
He has been playing so well for the last months, ever since he was speculated at Man City he just decided to eat the ball in every game. Not calling him up has hurt the national team. Should've let him play while the investigation is ongoing since he is also playing for his club with no trouble.
You didn't analyze the Colombia game. It was their best offensive game so far.
De verdad si estan teniendo mejoras, la intencidad con la que salieron en el primer tiempo fue brutal, como el liverpool de 2018, pero esa intencidad no es del todo buena ya que lleva a un desgaste tremendo. Bruno es un jugador de elite, pero su tiempo en el newcastle lo a trasformado en un jugador mas de destrucción que de creación
I do think that Argentina played better against Uruguay than against Brazil. It seems that constant high pressure can easily complicate Argentina, specially if Messi and Enzo are not able to perform their best. Uruguay was a fair winner against Arg as per tactics and performance.
Against Brazil, Arg was able to win almost exclusively due to good defender work (specially from Romero and Acuña) and Brazil no taking advantage of the goal situations they had (at least 2 of them we're really good).
If they continue through this path, hopefully they Will find that missing player. I woukd love to see "jogo bonito" again, south america really needs of Arg, Bra and Uru at their best (and Colombia also, they donhave amazing players).
dinizism is a lie, you gringos don't know how many teams this guy has ruined before his lucky run in the corrunt season, one that is extremely atypical due to the greatest times in BR ony coming to grips on the end of the season (see the weak botafogo side leading the league for most of the year only to finish 5th).
Violence in the crowd ? Brazilian policemen striked at argentinian fans and didn’t plan for the opposite crowds to meet in advance
Just put Alan Patrick and Tiquinho and watch things go from bad to amazing.
Alan Patrick ou Raphael Veiga
Raphael Veiga played very well actually. Combine him with Andre and Paqueta and we will have a good team. Put in Vitor Roque and Talisca and vini JR in attack. Bench Marquinhos and have Nino and Magalhaes in defence. Don't call Emerson Royal, instead call up a young rb from brazil, we have many. Put augusto as LB and Allison in goal. For the bench we can have Paulinho, Rodrygo, Martinelli, Everton Cebolinha,endrick. Then we need playmaker so call up Ganso(why not). If we have a strong team like this then maybe diniz can accomplish what he wants. I think he had bad selections for the last data fifa.
Love the vid, but would also have liked for you to talk about how Brazil is also missing someone like De Paul, someone that does the dirty work and is not afraid of putting the body on the line, partly I think that is why Argentina came out on top is that De Paul took over the mid field presence in both sides almost acting like a 5th defender Brazil had to go through before even meeting Otamendi and Romero
Obrigado pelas legendas em português!
The big issue is CBF putting a very young coach while also coaching for another team with very unorthodox ideas AND with set date. Just a recipe for disaster
You hype something up way beyond it's real importance or value just to make a video later "not understanding" what is happening.
Guess you saw that making content about brazilian football draws views.
It's sad because any foreign UA-camr mentioning Brazil will draw millions Brazilian views, doesn't matter if the content is good or not.
Gosto dos seus vídeos mano, muito massa suas análises
mr purist can you make a video on my germany?😢 it seems like all is falling apart and i see no end to this😢😢
Gone are the days of R,Carlos, Cafu, Rivaldo, Dida, Kaka, Ronaldo, Romario, Ronadlinho, etc etc..we miss the samba
os gringos gostam e acreditam mais na seleção brasileira do que os brasileiros kkkkkk
5:02 I was just thinking this, Brazil isn’t France and is tryna play like France. Most successful teams have a play maker, and Brazil hasn’t had one for real, in a long time. You look at Argentina for example, they’ve had Di Maria and then Messi has play lakers alongside lo censo, Enzo Fernandez now too. These guys can pass, and they can actually slow down games when they need to. Brazil is not France, and France at the moment is the only top team in the world imo that doesn’t need a slow paced player who can just make plays. Brazil have fast players and you can think of them as being able to copy France. But they can’t imo. They don’t have a lethal striker anymore, and honestly are kinda stuck in 2015-2020 Spain. -obviously Spain somehow got morata to always score even against good teams. But brazil? They really got nothing at the moment. And other comments mentioned this, but their top Brazilian players are really like system players now, and aren’t that good at scoring.
Basically what I’m saying is that Brazil is really bad at attacking at the moment, oh I guess they are like Bayern before Kane. Yeah last years Bayern is basically Brazil at the moment. And that means they definitely aren’t gonna beat better teams than them any time soon.
Joselu Oyarzabal, Dani Olmo, yamal,Pedri, Gabi, Rodri, grimaldo, lenormand, Pau torres, Baldé and Remiro 🫣
See I have a very different take on this match. Different than the general opinion. So feel free me to criticize me for that.
I think Brazil was the better side, much better. I think Argentina got lucky due to not good refereeing. The red card was very wrong.
And I don't know why the referee kept stopping the game for mere push fouls that could've been played for advantage. This start-stop momentum was very detrimental to the quality of the game.
Yes, you are right about the game, against Argentina was really better than Colombia for example, Argentina was pretty bad tho, but about relational play, it demands time to training, a thing that a national team will never have enough, in Fluminense he take like a year and a half training constantly to have that chemistry, anyway Ancelotti is the new coach of Brazil in next year then we will back to positional play
There is no such thing as luck, Argentina put on a masterclass defensive performance even with Argentina having a little crisis behind closed doors about the coach not being paid his fair share of money. Especially since Argentina are lacking wingers, a cdm l, and a quality rb.
Dito isso, Ganso de volta à seleção confirmado
Brazil thought they were gonna bully Argentina and win that game. Congratulations, you played yourself.
You can't bully the bullies.
Love your videos always
Never lost a home game in the World Cup qualifiers EVER until now?! Sorry but that is neither a coincidence, nor a mark of their infallible quality. There have been plenty of less than stellar Brazil teams before this. Law of averages would have caught up with them long before this.
The only difference is that Brazil used to have CONMEBOL in their pocket. They used to play with 14 players at home. Now in the age of VAR and social media dissectors etc., they have been forced to give up that advantage. It was only a matter of time.
And Conmebol has less bad national teams than before. It will take less losings to be at the bottom of the table.
the problem with the "Dniniz-ism" strategy is that it doesnt work if the players themselves dont have the time to practice and absorb its functionality.
which in a national team is basically impossible to happen, as they only have a couple of weeks at most to train before going back and erasing everything they learned. only to repeat the cycle again next time they are selected to play for the seleçao.
for a team, that can build and understand it? sure, its great, but its not for a national team. which it was considered a gamble, that didnt pay off.
ironically, the ONLY player to actually absorb and be able to make it work with his own playstyle was Neymar. the rest of the team was completely lost, between what Diniz want them to do, and the years of conditioning and training they have ingrained in their muscles.
In my opinion as a Fluminense supporter and a fan of Diniz's work choosing him as a coach for the national team was a mistake. First there's the issue of him having to share his atention between both his club and the seleção, but more importantly, Diniz is a proponent of a very different and new football philosophy, it is difficult for players to adapt if they aren't practicing regularly with him as is the case with the seleção.
I don't think it's injury: Messi is 36 years old, age has caught up. The front two of Argentina was very weak. Brazil should've capitalized on the emotional weakness of Argentina in the first half itself.
You'll say this,but then you see Argentina win Copa America again,with Messi both getting POTT and topping the forward stats.
@@rachetmarvel931 Only if Di Maria turns up as usual.
@@Coach-rq6jxArgentina is insanely great team, and with trash players like Molina, De Paul, Otamendi, and Nico González. I’m surprised they are that good with them being weak on the winger, cdm, and right back positions. If they can find quality youngsters for those positions they can go back to back world cups
Diniz' system needs lots of training. He'll never implement what he envisions in a national team.
He is interim, but the problem is that there is a mafia where the players that businessmen want play, to value them and sell them to Europe, which is why we suffer from this disastrous team.
What about Colombia?
It's funny how people are ignoring the performance in Colombia match. This match against Argentina Diniz used a proto-Tite strategy. If he used his strategy from last matches Argentina would score more.
Would love to see a video about Bayern Munich
Science Mrs White!! Great video!!
Rodrygo de Paul was acting and Juelinton got red card.
I mean…you need the players to do the tasks you are asking them to do. Let’s be honest, South American football is drastically different from what these more European-based players are used to and if you want to teach them to play this way, you need way more time than just a week or two. The alternative solution would be to bring Brazilians from South American leagues to the national team, and it might work, but then there’s the fear of literally being outplayed if the players aren’t up to par. Argentina had this problem too just recently where they included a bunch of good players from river plate and boca juniors, but now not only are these players aren’t performing on the international stage, their European teammates are also starting to misfire
At the end I think the responsibility falls on the manager because he's not able to communicate what he wants from the players.
Diniz won at the same field 24h later Fluminense.
The only problem is the team is really bad. I havenow idea who are these players. And I am from Brazil! But I know Messi, Di Maria, James Rodriguez, Suarez...
Ganso !!!! it is time for a call up.
No need to dive deep, Brazil without Neymar is shit. Now without Neymar AND Casemiro it's beyond shit.
Also Diniz shouldn't ever be a NT manager. His style relies heavily on training and everyone being on the same page, this is not gonna happen in any NT.
Too many ordinary players too many runners not alot of take on finally too many players who play in the English league
Hear me out… They should call up Ganso
We need DUNGA back. He at least would maie the players FOLLOW A SYSTEM.
It's generational. These current players are soft, weak, lack grit. If you watch games from the 90s to early 2000s you can see the difference, those dudes were committed not worried about their looks, midia, tattoos, haircuts and all that bs. Now players make sure to get a fresh haircut before a game lol. That's just an example of this fresa generation. Brasil is done.
These players leave straight from the u-20 teams to a mid table Premier League club and have absolutely never experienced pressure or having to prove themselves. They are barely Brazilian, I bet they speak Portuguese with foreign accent. The very few who actually went through at least one full season in a top Brazilian club are exactly the few ones who are worth shit in this team: Neymar, Vini Jr, Rodrygo, Endrick. If you play in a crappy village team like Brighton or Wolverhampton you are not good enough for the national team.
Why doesn’t he call up Ganso?
Don't give up on brazil people they will come good
Brazil is playing without coach
if ganso was the playmaker for diniz at fluminense then why isnt he nominating him for the national team?
for who understand futbol . i don´t saw the video but i will shared with you my view. andre and nino from fluminense are already use it witu the game of diniz and they try to go in a block space but the other players keeping rotating like a positional game, so need time only.
Depois de 2002 a seleção brasileira acabou.
There wasn't "Violence in the crowds" there was police brutality against the visiting fans, say it like it is
I’ve said this in many occasions that football today isn’t the same as before. The remnants of the OG football are Messi and C. Ronaldo. When these 2 retire, the sport will become just a sport.
The difference between today’s football and before is that everything today have been europeanised and they all play like robots or AI bots. It’s like these new players are created in a lab or a video game. Whereas before, every player had their own individual characteristics of playing, hence why they were able to create a name for themselves. There was actually original arts in their play.
Today, every player, club and international levels, play the same way. No differences. Very boring. All they care about is being pretty feminine boys covered with tattoos.
In terms of Brazil, the last great blue-chip player that will be remembered in history is Ronaldinho. He was the last of the great dragons for Brazil. After him, I can’t see anyone who can make a mark.
I worry about football when Messi and C.Ronaldo go. No more big names will be created.
dont worry acseloti is coming
Their best players are hurt. They have great goalies but overall the team has few world class players. The start of the video seems pure hyperbole. The team has relied on individual talent for quite awhile so I don't think presently with the players he has this is a big deal and should not surprise anyone. I would in an instant swap places to be Brazil losing to Argentina rather than the US losing to Trinidad Tobago. That game was disgraceful. Some of our European mercenaries that were not good enough to play for their own countries so they chose to play for the US are not turning out to be that great.
@RaizTricolor. Olha aí Gabriel Amaral
To be honest and everybody ain't saying thisBrazil players arent good enough there's no flair and quality they just keep falling down trying to get a free quick they don't go pass players like the 1990s and 2000s. When they play for their euro teams they are not consistent as well. They need help in their academys..
The problem with Diniz's Brazil lies in the erosion of European playing habits among the playmakers. It was painful to witness Bruno repeatedly disrupt the system and lose possession due to impatience. I believe that if Neymar returns with Paquetá, they could transform this team into a formidable squad. Diniz's game is strong in fast passes and short dribbles; however, they tend to carry the ball too much and resort to the long ball too frequently. We can see the tatics are there, but they struggle against ingrained unconscious habits in the players.
Top European teams don’t have a problem with impatience though
@@darkgenesis342he meant patience in attack build up. Many european Brazilian players resort to the long ball or wide too quickly, when the point of this tactic is to do very quick short passes in a small area to force yourself through due to the high amount of players u have in that small space
@@darkgenesis342 European teams are robots, Diniz's teams are dancers. That's the difference
also they have a lot more time, diniz works with brazil for like 15 days every 3-4 months, and while he is not with brazil he has to train fluminense and play a cup final like he did this last month. time plays a big role in a style that is not even close to what the players are used to playing and the fact that diniz cant really focus 100% of his time to brainstorm ways to do what he wants more efficiently plays a big role, imo.@@darkgenesis342
Formidable, really? From a team that struggles to beat Switzerland, Belgium and Croatia?
Despite the result I "liked" how the Brazilian team played
Hear me out, do you think on chance that Brazil's downfall is part of a wider "grand shift" in football? Cause Brazil isn't the only traditionally big team going through dreadful form at the moment, of course there's Germany too but **arguably** also Italy and Netherlands too. It seems that some former major teams had a downward spiral post 2014 World Cup, especially after the old guard retired. If I had to wager a guess I would assume it has something to do with how the up and coming talents are trained with their country's own unique style of playing football but football has shifted tactically against their special styles and so they are struggling to adapt in this new environment.
I am reaching for straws here honestly but thought this was interesting enough to share. I probably sound really dumb though, so feel free to ignore my comment. 🗿 Great video, btw as always. Keep up the great work, mate, cheers.
Not really. It's about talent and generation. Only Neymar is world class in this Brazilian generation. In the current squad, the only good players are Martinelli, Andre, Allisson, and our defenders. However, the u17 and u20 generation are full of world class talents. They don't just have one Neymar, but all of them are talented. We don't just have one world class forward, but at least, AT LEAST 4. It's just a matter of time. In two years Brazil will be Brazil again.
I agree, everybody plays the same way, those were the countries that had a "signature style" and were a challenge to everybody else because of that. Now everybody plays together in the same clubs and. have the same training. For example, at least with Brazil I can attest that part of the issue is that not enough time is being spent on training kids on rudiments and individual technique. That's what Brazil excelled at for so long. Kids would spend hours practicing the way of kicking the ball in its most basic sense to then learn tactics and be given a position. Think back of the past in Brazil, you had center backs that were almost as good as attacking midfielders at dribbling and handling the ball. You had so many player free kick options on every game. Now most are faster and better physically equipped because they're "packed and. shipped" to europe by age 18 without that level of basic rudimentary training. Anyway, your theory is similar to the one I have about this.
I’d argue it’s the opposite, teams are not playing the style that they used to. Brazil were playing JDP like a European team in the last World Cup. Argentina were poor in the 2018 World Cup when playing under Sampaoli who is also a JDP manager, things turned around when Scaloni has changed the tactics in his time in charge. Other instances like Holland and Italy I think it is player quality as well as tactical problems. Spain in a similar situation despite Nations League victory, they are miles off what they were a decade ago
Thats nice comment but..
When you said "player is trained with it country specific style and cant adapt to new footballing style"
i think thats the other ways around...
Players who are very used to the modern game system at their club cannot adapt to the conditions of the national team because the modern tactic at their club is just following the system. And we know club football and national team is two different things.
If we learn from Messi and Zidane interview is there is no leader or that centered player as solid structure for a team in modern tactic anymore..
That one centered man that can think outside of the box(system) is sometime needed when come to national team just look at big strong team like France with Griezman and Argentina with Messi..
@BIazyI was with you till your initial Mancini criticism before leading Italy to the Euros win Italy went 37 consecutive matches without defeat which is a record.
Italy up there with Spain was one of the best teams in the tournament and played great fast paced attacking football, Mancini got his tactics spot on throughout and to get back into the final so it wasn't down to luck.
After the Euros win Mancini should have gotten rid of the old guard and start plotting a new young fresh team for the world cup but he and the team got very complacent
As a brazilian, what frustrates me the most about the national team is, by far, the fans.
Seriously, anytime something goes wrong with theam or we don't have the best results possible, they start trash talking. And they don't spare anyone.
We have amazing players who are among the best in the world, and play their heart out for the national team. Yet, people will make fun of them and question their skills because of one loss or mistake. Gosh, sometimes the fans will complain about the players even after a victory.
Well, its not just a situation where something goes wrong or that there aren't the best results possible, this Brazil with Diniz is breaking record in the bad performance, like losing for the first time ever for colombia and for argentina at home
Pooo cara, sou obrigado a concordar. Mas uma possível causa pra isso é culpa, talvez, da história da seleção. Está que teve nomes pesados por muuuuuito tempo
they used to complan for djamala santos when cafu was the starting right-back.🤣
what do you want more??
I completely agree
Seleção brasileira morreu depois de 2014 mano esse coping aí é inútil, virou seleção de bagres, aceita que dói menos
Brazil football has a depression, in order to treat a depression, you need an extensive therapy, discipline, consistency and positive environment, the celasao spectacular football era is over, the modern football imposes collective endurance to achieve goals, like once someone said: “ Brazilian national team's players p party to much to win anything“, that's the painful truth that some refuse the hear.
Respect to Brazil football team that I love.
O que mais me incomoda é que é nítido que a forma que o Fluminense joga é muito diferente da forma que o Brasil joga. Mesmo sendo o mesmo técnico
Pois é, alguns jogadores não se adaptaram e quando começaram a entender melhor o esquema como contra a Argentina, não tinha um cara pra ditar o ritmo como dito no vídeo, o cargo ficou pro Rodrygo que não sabe fazer isso... arrisco até a dizer que se o Diniz levasse o Ganso pra seleção podia resolver o problema nessas últimas duas partidas. Mas enfim, a seleção tá com uma zika danada desde 2002, tô achando que alguém daquele elenco fez alguma promessa e não cumpriu kkkk lembra da Argentina que em 2014 foi cumprir a promessa de décadas atrás, chegou na final da copa, e dps venceu tudo...
isso só deixa mais claro que o Diniz não faz a menor ideia doq faz.
É simples, 9 jogadores da seleção Brasileira são gerenciados pelo mesmo empresário, ou seja, essa seleção foi escalada pela ganância e não pelo mérito dos jogadores que realmente mereciam estar lá.
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No Fluminense ele tem tempo para treinar na seleção não. A metodologia que ele quer aplicar não funciona com uma ou duas semanas de treino.
It's important to remember that Diniz is just an interim. It was never in the plans for him to continue in the job, he is just holding a spot.
With all the quality they have it's hard to understand how they struggle so much. Hope they bounce back as quickly as possible because they are a very entertaining team at their best.
A crisis of coaching and coordination. A 20 year crisis in the making, actually. With most players building their careers in Europe and with less opportunities to learn their team members, we haven't been able to trasnalte talent into consistent good plays. The big debate in Brazil right now, of course, is how to find a way forward in this scenario.
Diniz is just a provisional coach of Brazil team, at least this is what supporters are aware since CBF told in many interviews the desire to have Ancelotti as coach of the team. Since he's in Real Madrid this is not possible until June of next year, for now, as a supporter, I see three things that are making the team bad in the moment:
1. Diniz vision is really easy to understand but not that easy to replicate in real game, it demands time of training to get a good chemistry like Fluminense team for example, thing that a national team don't have.
2. The players are not that confident to bow in his vision since he just a provisional coach and everything will be blow up when Ancelotti or another positional play coach lead the team
3. A lot of core players injured, not confortable, or not really experimented in the new scheme.
They don't have quality in this team. At least not as much as it used to be.
I don’t see ANY quality, unless you think clown Neymar is a world class too.
Diniz was always overated asf, piss me off to see gringos defending him based on highlights and biased stats
Libertadhores champion
their government should stop supporting rubbish and focus on internal development.
In sports teams go through phases, and the same problems Brazil has had other big teams like Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Argentina, Uruguay, England, Spain have had as well. It is a very competitive global sport and sometimes shit coaches, bad call ups and injuries can undermine the performance of a highly talented national team. The question now is if Brazil can build a new team and renovate so it can return to try to compete for world titles again being the greatest men's team in the history of the game. The next world cup the competition will be even bigger in 2026 with 48 teams. It is a challenge to see how a national team overcomes its crisis and bad phases.
It's not like there's necessarily a deadline tho. If Brazil can't win in 2026, then there still many more after. They're still holding the most WC wins for 32 teams participate, now, it's just like a new phase, new era, like usual challenge if they can become Champion again while competing with another 48 nations. Looking at it that way, it's not so bad. It's just the beginning, if things go in the right direction.
The competition for the world's most popular sport has increased over time for both the men and women's competition. Brazil once upon a time with their men's team was the best in the world. But unless they clean up the problems with corruption in the Brazilian federation, get the right coach and right players they can't compete for world cups like before. While Brazil men's team are 5 time world champions, since 2002 they have not world a world championship since their last world title in Japan and South korea@@thangngudxop
Brazil just aint the great badass team that they once were....The last time Argentina came on their home turf, they beat Brazil in their own stadium & won the Copa America....now Argentina beating them once again in their own stadium at a WC qualifier....bear in mind this was at least a far better performance from Brazil than the last horrid match they played...but still loss inspite of their world class talents that Brazil have on their team..
Great video! Can you make a video about Fluminenses Libertadores win?
I seriously question the efficiency of Diniz's tactics. Sure, he won a Libertadores with a "middle of the table" team and the way he managed Flumiense to the final was commendable, but never free of risk. In multiple occasions the "mini-games" within the games of Fluminenses winning campaign could have gone bad were not for one man: German Cano.
This guy single-handedly tipped the balance in Fluminense's favour multiple times, including in the final match. He is a unique striker who probably never heard of xG's per shot zone. The way his mind works probably goes like this: "if I can see the white on the goalie's eyes, I will take the shot".
I want to say that some 50% of the goals this man scored have very little to do with Diniz's tactics and more to do with his individual characteristics. He doesn't need to be "in the right" place to take a shot nor he needs the team to build him a good opportunity. Fluminenses' goalie could dispatch the ball from his own box and find Cano in the mid-field with two defenders on him and the man would probably take a shot at the goal from there "just because". He takes wild chances and scores and I think a lot of people fail to see how German Cano masked many of the flaws on Fluminenses' tactics.
With that said, I want to point out that Brazil does not have anything close to a German Cano. Richarlison, Jesus, Endrick... none of them are near the state of grace Cano achieved in 2023 and when you combine that with a team who doesn't fully understand what the coach is trying to do you have a disaster in your hands. Brasil x Argentina was the best match Brasil played ever since Diniz took over. Analyze the other games under his management I guarantee you gonna have two bleeding eyes by the end of it.
Curti que ele usou uma foto do gado para mostrar a torcida brasileira
Brazil is the next wc champion, congratulations from Argentina! You'll deserve it!
Only stills? Where are the video clips since you wanna illustrate your footballing points?
As a Brazilian, it is unbelievable the amount of patience Diniz is getting from CBF. Believe me, before Tite, any coach with this number of losses would be fired right away. He made a huge amount of mistakes, especially with his substitutions over the last three games (it takes forever for him to change the team and he ALWAYS adds the new players in positions they are not used to playing).
The Brazilian team is not a place for experiments, he is breaking negative records all the time. If CBF wants to try it, they should hire Diniz for the Brazilian Sub-20 team, not our main team. Our team was totally lost in the first two games, and I believe we did a better job against Argentina because the players didn't want to lose that game at all costs, but our team is a mess, a TOTAL mess.
a ideia de colocar o diniz primeiro no sub-20 seria interessante,pra ver se o trabalho dele seria proveitoso em seleção,porem eu simplemente não entendo o que se passa na mente dos manda-chuvas da cbf pra ter feito estas ultimas decisoes.
Honestly it's weird how CBF is trying a new playstyle just to trow It away with another positional coach in the near future. Why even bother changing so much just to go back to the old ways?
I mean, thats actually the best thing to do, just play with dizin, theres few years of work before the world cup, they could really become legendary if they keep working, giving an opportunity and then give up on the trust would be dumb, so diniz should stay at any cost, having hum un the u21 wouldnt be a great choice, and i think he'll have better teams that would gonna ask for him, with all the respect
If this guy was treated as the other Brazilian managers are, he would be in the depths of Serie D by now as every job he has until this stint at Fluminense was a catastrophic failure. He would fail, and instead of dropping a level would go on to manage an even better team afterwards, and so on.
A piece of trivia here: He called up 7 players that have the same agent as him. In Brazil those things are typically not coincidence.
I mean, they already hired ancelotti, it doesn't make a lot of sense to fire him and get a new guy just to play a few games
Bem acho que a única coisa que falta para a seleção brasileira atualmente um centro avante finalizador. Da pra ver claramente o quanto falta um jogador pra chutar a bola no gol.
falta 1 goleiro que defenda 1 chuta a gol pelo menos, 1 atacante que não ganhe 200 milhoes em um clube e fique 90% do tempo "machucado" mamando dinheiro do clube em putas e menos em futebol, brasil só tem zageiros, o resto se você por os jogadores de qualquer seleção, vão servir melhor
Não vai funcionar. Não há tempo para treino.
The rhythm of this game made no sense from Brazil's point of view - why were they committing so many pointless fouls??
It looked like they were trying to break Argentina team to make it easier for the second half.
The 4-2-4 of Diniz is not working for Brazil. The team has no middle and no depth. He needs to work with the pieces he has and not try to fit the pieces into his game philosophy.
I knew he wouldn't work with the National Team, players don't have enough time to adapt to his style which is extremely radical to modern football. Imagine Gabriel Magalhaes going from Arteta to this, it's just too much.
@@lucgh2007one thing he can do is dropping these players it is huge risk and would put lot of pressure on him but he wouldn't get results until either he switches his whole philosophy or he dropps some big names and invites players that match his style more
Brazil's press was intense, but the amounts of faults would cause more yellow cards in any away match. It wasn't even 5 minutes and they already had 2 or 3 hits that should have been carded.
Argentina does this directly with Brazil.
Otamendi in 2021 elbowed Raphinha, but he wasn't even sent off, Raphinha with a bloody nose...
@@サッカーの王様ペレ hey, if that makes you feel better, ok. Quite possible it's true, and when Argentina starts getting called they'll have the same issue. But this game in particular, it wasn't Argentina who made 25 faults in the first half. What I said is that I don't think that kind of pressing is sustainable. One referee that actually cards the players and it will crumble awfully.
@@agustincheong9086even SporTV Brazilian narrator said VAR took easy with Marquinhos in the first half.
@@lucassantossj good to know I wasn't the only one thinking the same.
For sure the worst ever.
Diniz is a hell of a coach... but not for a national team, he needs to much time to bend the players to his "way".
Get rid of the european based players apart Neymar and recall back the South America based players.
Last video you made about Dinizismo I commented saying I trusted the project. I still do. Amazing defensive analysis, and attack analysis is ALWAYS the same, players are addicted to european football. Brazil has MUCH talent, but RAW talent. We need a metronome, Ganso is a good option and I think he should be given a chance! About Neymar, I don't agree he should be the metronome, his time has passed, last world cup was his last chance. This crisis is about how we are creating players and to do what? Last great Brazilian talents are almost ALL wingers. There are no players like Kaka, Rivaldo and etc, whom could do the playmaker role under Dinizismo works. For now I'd give it a chance for Ganso and Paquetá.
Ganso is a couple of years older than Neymar. I believe Neymar not only comprehends the tactics but also excels at improvisation; he's a genius as well
Yes, I dont think Neymar would add the tempo, he's unfortunately is not the player to dictate the rhythm of the game. He keeps the ball for too long and he does a lot of unproductive things in the midfield, so this doesnt help with tempo
Neymar in PSG often do that role especially before Messi came..
I agree Neymar is old already so his pace and skill is decreasing but if he learn from Messi and try to be more conservative with his energy i think he can still do that bc he has good pass and vision too..
Ganso seria perfeito, mas a lesão ferrou demais ele e não tem outro jogador brasileiro nesse nível assim.
I've followed the cycle of eight World Cups, from 1994 until now. In 6 of these, Brazil has won practically everything, but has failed in the exact World Cup. In 2 of these, Brazil had a difficult time and qualified for the World Cup in the last qualifying match (almost missing out World Cup) but then went on to win the World Cup.
I'm very confident so! The 2026 World Cup is ours!
Personally, I regret it a lot. With this style, philosophy, Diniz should be Brazil national coach about 10 years ago. That might be the last Brazil generation fits for this style though I hope they're not the last (Ganso, Pato, Neymar, Lucas Moura, Robinho, Marcelo, Dani Alves,...). Unlucky, that generation was led by coaches who has European style, not Brazil style. Nowadays, many Brazil players came to Europe too early and their style. That gave them more success but also made them lose their natural style. I like your videos about Diniz style and Riquelme a lot. Hope you can make a video about Ganso, he deserves it
Brazil has lost “joga bonito”. They’re literally just a European team without the excitement of Brazilian style.
I know it's probably not your fault and you probably google images of people with brazil's uniform... but one of the photos you've shown as "mad brazilian football crowd" is actually from a heavy political uprising... and since politics is very polarized... you may have some mad brazilian ppl here complaining about the photo...
just sending you feedback! your content is amazing and your videos on football are always great.
The point is that today's Brazilian players learn from a young age to develop tactics and physics to the detriment of developing technique and skills. In the past, the fundamentals (passing, shooting, dominating, heading, crossing, etc...) were the most important things for the development of players in the youth categories, and then when they went to Europe they started to develop more physical aspects. and tactics. Tele Santana (former coach known for his "art football" style) once said: "the fundamentals of football are the most important thing. There's no point in teaching a super elaborate tactic if he can't execute it."
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and the sad part is that Diniz is probably going to leave soon...
Paquetá can be this playmaker, the best Fluminense this year had 3 midfielders (André, Martinelli and Ganso as a playmaker), I believe that when Paquetá returns from this push aside Brasil will have some improvements
Wasnt that coach that everybody on YT told is revolution in football ?
Tbf, they were only saying that it would be a revolution for Brazil. And it could be if not for the fact that, since this is such a different style, the players go back to their clubs and by the time the international break comes back, they forget a lot. Diniz would need a whole lot more time, and maybe he's never gonna be able to succeed.
Still early to tell tbh...
And he is, at least for how football is played nowadays. But he has to work on two different teams, with different players, different goals and different expectations. In the national team he didn't have the time he has at Fluminense, and he's only there until Ancelotti takes his place so it's not really worth it to try train them to play the way he wants..
@@nickroitman6743 That being said, I hope Ancelotti extends with us at Real Madrid. He's someone that can be trusted with. There's no one more experienced than him at this point. And our youngsters have to grow. Who better than Ancelotti to do that?