“It is YOU who fears death “Valkorian”. I do not. I will no kneel!” I love how Marr calls out Valkorian, in the end, he was motivated by fear. Marr had moved past his fear of death, which in my mind, makes him a pretty damn powerful Sith.
@@hopegaming867 other Sith persist largely due to violent deaths in ghost loops, violent and delirious, like Darth Andru - Marr survived because of sheer will. He refused to leave the Empire undefended, and so he refused to die.
Nah the expansion is extremely well done only problem every single fan would tell you is the animations the animations are just bad like straight up other than that the game is absolutely fantastic
@@blackdragoncyrus Sith Lords obviously Darth Marr got stones to stand up to Darth Tenebrae alias Darth Vitiate alias Valkorian. He maybe a Revan Cheap Knock off with that helmet but he's also a bad ass knock off. Worst part is Darth Tenebrae even one shock one blast one killed Marr. That's why he's one of the few Sith Lords more powerful than Darth Bane idiot creator of the Stupid rule of Two Sith Lords several or dozen Sith Inquistors. Darth Tenebrae is even more powerful than Darth Sidious.
Sabertooth Wtf are you talking about have you become so strong with the weeb that you actually think you can be omnipotent by yourself in your short lifetime? ....LOL
Part of me feels that Marr's sacrifice could've been way better, but there's a certain limit to the animations. It also shows just how insanely powerful Valkorion is compared to Marr.
@@theevildrummingsithlord1492 without a companion healing you, you'd die. And it takes about 3 full minutes to beat the first two you encounter since you can't just push them off the edge of the map
After seeing the comment section...am I the only one who liked this??? I mean IDC if I am, that Darth Marr moment was dope as hell. One of my favorite moments in the whole franchise. "It is YOU who fears death, Valkorion. I do not. I will not kneel!" How do you not like that?? And the animation was FINE, ESPECIALLY for a game engine being used in 2011. Of course cinematic trailers are different from game cutscenes...just like virtually EVERY GAME EVER
Yeah i dont get it either, i mean enjoy it for what it is and dont complain about what it isnt. And Darth Marr will forever the best leader for the Sith to ever exist.
I completed all story with Eternal Empire and I IT'S WAS BEST STORY IN SWTOR for my Light Sith Warrior. Not only because of the Eternal Empire itself and Valkorion, but because of my personal connections to my Wrath and how he developed, how he changed in this period of story. At first, my Wrath was a ordinal Sith. Despite what he had code of honor from the beginning and served the Empire and protected it's people, he still was a Sith. He wanted to gain more power for his selfish goals, to make himself truly powerful to be free. He killed, twisted and lied to gain it. He enjoyed his power and how he played a puppet for Baras, only to wait to dethrone master and take his place. And even later, my Wrath began question himself. Was he truly a Sith? Does Sith even makes a "weak" choices like him? Does even code of honor make sence? There should be a way to be "true Sith". So my Wrath with this idea began learning more dark secrets, disrespecting his enemy's and exploit his power. But all changed with Vette. Her love melted down Wrath's cold heart. Yet, despite that, Wrath later made his biggest mistake. When Vette's mother died, my Wrath encouraged Vette to take revenge, because he thought it's was right. He was so angered that he thought revenge and being "true sith" will help. Only later he understood HOW HE WAS SUPER WRONG. What he could protected Vette from this. He could, but he didn't did it. He failed to be just good lover for one soul, who knowed his unmasked face and birthname. So he began to redeem himself. He fully embraced his code of honor and his serving for the Empire. After dealing with Makeb, Illum, Revan and Isoth, my Wrath understood what he already have all. His love and friends. He doesn't need to be "true Sith" So... How KOTFE and KOTET events affected on my Wrath? After losing Vette, he understood what he doesn't even need power or something another. He needs only her and his code of honor to be simply happy. After the reunion, love between my Wrath and Vette ignited again and this time, he did everything to be sure he is a good husband. And after all of this events, my Wrath became entire different person. He became much more caring about people around him, learned to lead with inspiration and honor for the name of peace and protecting innocents. And EVEN began to joke! Like imitating Vookie's rough or having fun with Mecha Droid (Vette even promised one to him for Life Day). Seriously, he didn't joked very much until KOTET. At first he wanted to destroy the Eternal Throne, but he claimed its power as peacekeeper. Honestly, I promised myself to never change his outfit since I made it perfect for me, but I changed his clothes from black, gray and red to black, white and yellow. He abandoned his red lightsaber and made a new one, with gold yellow blade. It felt just right to change it! I wrote all of this, to share with my emotions about all this story and how AMAZING its was not only because of itself, but how it connected to Wrath and how he changed in this story. How he progresses as a character, despite not even having arc in the plot! How he changed his behavior and ideals to be a leader for the Eternal Alliance and be a better husband, friend. Even in Force he became something beyond Light and Dark, something beyond my understanding. He is not Revan or grey sith, he is just... Wrath. I felt it, I felt it all and now Wrath is one of my favorite Star Wars characters. He is just too badass! And I know unfortunately all other classes (expect Knight) doesn't fit to the story of the Eternal Empire. And it's just too BAD what devs decided to kill Darth Maar in first chapter. He was to cool! May the Force be with you, and serve you well.
@@mahadkhawer7267 I hope someday this game gets a council release that's much more small scaled Have you seen the size of the dunes of tattooing like holy fuck they made this realistic as far as Star Wars is concerned
i felt really bad for marr, he was a rlly good leader for the sith empire. like ik he wasnt the most powerful sith ruler, but unlike vitiate/valkorion he cared about the empire and lead them with leadership and honor.
@@Mediados sorry for the late reply, i missed it lol. yeah he was the supreme leader (dictator) of the empire, just wasnt dubbed the emperor, but idk if he wanted to be dubbed the emperor tbh but he could have if he wanted to.
@@life_is_a_myth I wouldn't bet on it. He's not the most powerful Sith, but cunning enough to know who to surround himself with and to hold the throne.
@@SosaL432 The forms stopped him from claiming the title. If he had stepped up to declare himself Emporor, the balance on the Dark Council would be gone. The Council would duel him over the position, the Hand would call him a heretic and plot with their fanatics, and the other Sith already saw his word as law. Going for the throne would have only brought instability.
A lot of people complain about the animation, but we all love kotor 1 and 2 and the animation in those games has not aged well at all. It’s really the writing for me, and the writing in this scene is still really strong despite the animation
Graphics arnt bad I still dont see why ppl complain about trailers and gameplay. They are made with 2 different engines that have as much in common as a dog and a duck. Shared ancestors yes but over time they have diverged so greatly.
@@Matli1804 yeah this game never got me the first time i played it but i got back into it and i am hooked on the story maxed out a char in less than a month... story is fantastic
4.25 Size of them handcuffs. It would take all your strength to just stand up in 'em. I want a pair so people can't escape from my basement so easily. Sick of it.
The animation of the game may be stiff and sometimes annoyingly repetitive. But god damn it I stand tooth and nail to say this was well done for what it is.
The grind is essentially nonexistent now, you just level as you do the story missions until max with maybe a few side missions. If you want to play it like a single player game, go ahead.
But wait a minute - on another video, I saw people complaining that it wasn't MMO-based enough. Toxic, indecisive community that complains about everything apparently
@@galenmarek2943 I know fans don't really accept it as canon but the emperor did at the end of return of the rise of skywalker felt like an accurate display of his power
I find it funny how Some Star Wars “fans” criticize the prequels for having more advanced tech not understanding that Star Wars technology does not progress linearly, it wants and waxes. Which is why the old republic often has more advanced technology.
@Osmar L it was canon when the game was made, and as far as im concerned, if they dont outright give an alternate story conflicting with the events of Kotor1&2 and SWTOR, anything in the old republic era is canon.
Despite being literally the same guy, Vitiate and Valkorion seem very different for me. Vitiate is just a rip-off of Palpatine. Valkorion’ dilemma with his family is far more interesting.
I would LOVE for this to be true. It could explain MANY things about Snoke, Knights of Ren and First Order in a cool way. If this was true then I would assume that he created Knights of Ren to find worthy vessel for his soul, body that would not rot from his overwhelming power of dark side like body of Snoke and Ben Solo's body could have the biggest potential to contain his power.
I still don't get why The Old Republic just couldn't have made as a single player game. It's pretty much Knights of the Old Republic 3. Hell it's basically what happens when Star Wars decides to be Romancing Saga/Saga Frontier.
I mean, I can jump to another video right now and see people complaining that they should make it more.multiplayer/mmo focused. Just a bunch of people who dont play the game complaining over what it should bd.
Oh yes, My reply is kinda retarded. So, if I'm not wrong many MMO got their money from subscription isn't? So my theory is that they make it a MMO because they want some sort of steady income.
@@justinlacek1481 I play the game. Have played it since first open beta. Love the game. They should have made a single player sequel to Kotor 2 instead.
Am I the only one who thinks, that this is a bit like the stuff from TLJ? I mean: Sith apprentice catchs the enemy and brings it to the sith leaders throne room. The apprentice betrays his master/leader and fights side by side with the enemy against the leader. The leader dies, the enemy escapes and the apprentice is like "I dont know what happened here, but I am the big boss now"
I wish this was made today rather than in 2008. Could really benefit from the technology and consoles available to fufill the games scope and ambition without sacrificing aesthetics
And love it. People talk shit about the trailers and the gameplay but I never saw someone talking about WoW this way. And is literally the same shit, dope realistic cinematics and this kind of graphics. Lmao
Playing this currently with my Chiss Agent. It's so detailed that it's like it's own stand alone spinoff game O.O & Darth Marr dying from a little Force lightning was embarrassingly pathetic, sustained FL I could see but not one quick shock.
I was disappointed for darth Marr to die like that he was my favorite sith lord and he was one of the few sith to truly see your characters true potential (I've only played sith inquisitor so far)
I love this. Arcann, Thexan and Vaylin are three of my most favourite Star Wars characters of all time alongside Phasma, Boba Fett, Darth Maul, Savage Opress, Darth Vader and more
Não é possível enganar Vitiate, assim como não seria possível vencer Vitiate ou realizar algo que ele já não tivesse previsto, logo essa sequencia só teria acontecido se fosse a vontade dele abandonar o corpo de Valkorion. Porém o corpo de Valkorion, à esta época, não apresentava sinais de decrepitude que justificassem esse abandono dramático, além de desorganizar um império que levou mais de mil anos para organizar.
Sei que o comentário é velho, mas se eu não me engano foi exatamente isso que ocorreu, ele deixou ser morto, ele queria abandonar o "Valkorion" para pegar o corpo do jogador, visto que em Ziost, ele propositalmente não faz nada contra o jogador depois de um tempo por achá-lo interessante. E na história do Cavaleiro Jedi, o Vitiate diz que vai viver a vida como tudo que existe, "um músico, um artista", e que no final ele veria o reinício do universo.
Aha I knew it, Valkorion's voiced by Darin de Paul! Thought I recognized it somewhere. Very Ardyn-y, but a tad deeper. Fitting I guess since both are evil immortal manipulators.
vaylin:... arcan: you are late! vaylin: tch... I.... *valkorion gives her a stare* vaylin: clear the room! arcan: That includes you too! *vaylin leaves*
Valkorion allowed his physical death to take the outlanders body as his new vessel. In the Sith story line one of the teachers which is the female Sith sorcerer tries to do the same thing.
I guess, but the scene earlier where Marr rams his ship into the Eternal Fleet is supposed to be his blaze of glory. This is just him finally saying his piece, as the de-facto leader of the Empire, to the Emperor. This isn't the last we see of Marr anyway.
Why re the people mumbling about game animations and graphic and compare them to PRE-RENDERED CGI TRAILER and saying that they re bad? Like... yeah, they re worse then in trailer just like in every fcking game. WoW, TESO, FFXIV and every other MMO s have trailer that re cool af but ingame looks lot worse. ' cause its CGI trailers. If there was a mark "Ingame footage" then it would be a different conversation but wtf?
So if Darth Marr dies (tragic, they kill all the good (not good as in good and evil but good as in being a good character) sith characters) is Dath Nox/Occlus/Imperius the stronguest member of the Dark Council?
Canonically/officially, in terms of the Old Republic storyline, both Nox and the Empire's Wrath were either died in combat or disappeared for good in the war fought when the Eternal Empire attacked. The Outlander is technically an entirely different character, but both the Wrath and Nox are gone by the time chapter 2 takes place. They mention in one of the codices that every single member of the Dark Council went out this way - either dead or disappeared. The only high-ranking Sith to last was Darth Acina. This is part of why she became Empress; all of her rivals were gone. Clearly now, we can see how the Empire eventually crumbled and died off, giving way to Darth Ruin millenia later. Their ebtire powerbase was broken apart by the Eternal Empire. This is why the KotFE trailer only shows them fighting the Sith - because that's who caught the brunt of the EE. Without the Emperor, the Wrath, Nox, Marr or virtually any of their power characters and Council members left, the Sith stood no chance. The next major expansion (which is supposed to get back into the republic vs empire focus) is probably going to get into detail over how the Sith broke apart. I wouldn't be surprised if it starts with a splinter faction of Sith breaking away from Acina. They might just have where the player character forms his/her own splinter group. From there on, it's history - different groups breaking off from each other
Justin Lacek Actually, Darth Vowrawn survived too, as he always does. Some say that Arcann had a thing with Acina too. About Nox, I like to think that he saw the shit coming and went to explore the Rishi Maze in his quest for immortality, but that's just what I like to think.
Dragonspheres Indeed, though legends or Disney Canon, it really depends on who's writing it. All writers have their own ups and downs. But anyways unfortunately Disney are the ones who has 4 billion dollars and can do whatever they please now....
Some days ago i saw the two recent star wars movies (the force awakens rogue one). Actually rogue one events occured many years before the events in force awakens as i read in the timeline. Will see the movies again. Love them. Now i want to read the books. As for thr game mmm most of the comments are negative.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder though. There have been some really ugly looking Sith in the galaxy. I don't think Vitate would care as long as the vessel met his goals.
For a guy called Emperor he was suprisingly easy to kill. Like seriously it took a 15 minute lightsaber fight to kill darth Maul and it took an entire team of jedi to kill Darth Malgus but Emporer Valkorian is killed by a guy with terrible lightsaber fighting technic and a girl who doesn't even do anything.
Marr was ultra powerful more powerful then dooku and was killed by one stroke of valkorians lightning . This just goes to show how much people underestimate valkorians hes the most powerful force user in the whole star wars saga
@@novustalks7525 because it's an older game that runs on a spaghetti engine. Of course there are limitations of changes that they can make. It's simpler to just make a whole new game
“It is YOU who fears death “Valkorian”. I do not. I will no kneel!”
I love how Marr calls out Valkorian, in the end, he was motivated by fear. Marr had moved past his fear of death, which in my mind, makes him a pretty damn powerful Sith.
And not to mention the only sith to become a force ghost
@@i39darkblade No The Entire Sith Inquisitor story is about force ghosts
No hes stupid in a way lol
@@hopegaming867 other Sith persist largely due to violent deaths in ghost loops, violent and delirious, like Darth Andru - Marr survived because of sheer will. He refused to leave the Empire undefended, and so he refused to die.
And he was motivated by the most basic fear of all.
A+ for Voice Acting, at least...
Mik Moen I'm your 66th like. Am I apart of the 501st now?
They spend all their money and time on their trailers apparently.
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Nah the expansion is extremely well done only problem every single fan would tell you is the animations the animations are just bad like straight up other than that the game is absolutely fantastic
Good luck updating such an old game and its engine.
Doll the game is shit, they butchered everything kotor one and two built up
@@eliasschnutz6826 You Star Wars fans are always bitching and complaining over different mediums with a victim's complex. XD
R.I.P Darth Marr
One of the greatest Siths In his Era
sith's what?
@@blackdragoncyrus yeah probably should fix that
@@blackdragoncyrus Sith Lords obviously Darth Marr got stones to stand up to Darth Tenebrae alias Darth Vitiate alias Valkorian. He maybe a Revan Cheap Knock off with that helmet but he's also a bad ass knock off. Worst part is Darth Tenebrae even one shock one blast one killed Marr. That's why he's one of the few Sith Lords more powerful than Darth Bane idiot creator of the Stupid rule of Two Sith Lords several or dozen Sith Inquistors. Darth Tenebrae is even more powerful than Darth Sidious.
My fave line of Valkorian/Vitiate in KOTFE, is "You presume there are limits to my power.... There are none."
Starwarsrap1 there are always limits to people's power
@@angrydevilgamer2770 says...who?
@@xanider5098 only a weakling. by accepting that way of thinking-we feel no more need for training-then, your power becomes stagnant.
Sabertooth Wtf are you talking about have you become so strong with the weeb that you actually think you can be omnipotent by yourself in your short lifetime? ....LOL
@@unlimitedpower8960 i don't need to explain myself to someone as immature you.
Part of me feels that Marr's sacrifice could've been way better, but there's a certain limit to the animations. It also shows just how insanely powerful Valkorion is compared to Marr.
I mean Marr took down 7 Knights without his own lightsabers. These fuckers are extremely tough in game, Marr went out as badass as he could have
@@xrstevenson I've never played the new expansions (I'm a free player pleb :p), but that's impressive. Just how tough are they to beat?
@@theevildrummingsithlord1492 without a companion healing you, you'd die. And it takes about 3 full minutes to beat the first two you encounter since you can't just push them off the edge of the map
@@xrstevenson I see. Wow that's a really tough battle, but it must be a lot of fun.
@@xrstevenson It took me legit like 30 sec to kill then IDK what you are doing but they ez
This expansion was great. Don’t care what peeps say, I loved it.
me too
Facts
It had potential, the idea was brilliant. But I was disappointed with the plot.
After seeing the comment section...am I the only one who liked this??? I mean IDC if I am, that Darth Marr moment was dope as hell. One of my favorite moments in the whole franchise. "It is YOU who fears death, Valkorion. I do not. I will not kneel!" How do you not like that?? And the animation was FINE, ESPECIALLY for a game engine being used in 2011. Of course cinematic trailers are different from game cutscenes...just like virtually EVERY GAME EVER
Yeah i dont get it either, i mean enjoy it for what it is and dont complain about what it isnt.
And Darth Marr will forever the best leader for the Sith to ever exist.
This is not your typical video game fan, it's Star wars fan we're talking about after all
i Love that scene aswell hes death was so cool
I completed all story with Eternal Empire and I IT'S WAS BEST STORY IN SWTOR for my Light Sith Warrior.
Not only because of the Eternal Empire itself and Valkorion, but because of my personal connections to my Wrath and how he developed, how he changed in this period of story.
At first, my Wrath was a ordinal Sith. Despite what he had code of honor from the beginning and served the Empire and protected it's people, he still was a Sith. He wanted to gain more power for his selfish goals, to make himself truly powerful to be free. He killed, twisted and lied to gain it. He enjoyed his power and how he played a puppet for Baras, only to wait to dethrone master and take his place.
And even later, my Wrath began question himself. Was he truly a Sith? Does Sith even makes a "weak" choices like him? Does even code of honor make sence? There should be a way to be "true Sith".
So my Wrath with this idea began learning more dark secrets, disrespecting his enemy's and exploit his power.
But all changed with Vette. Her love melted down Wrath's cold heart. Yet, despite that, Wrath later made his biggest mistake. When Vette's mother died, my Wrath encouraged Vette to take revenge, because he thought it's was right. He was so angered that he thought revenge and being "true sith" will help.
Only later he understood HOW HE WAS SUPER WRONG. What he could protected Vette from this. He could, but he didn't did it. He failed to be just good lover for one soul, who knowed his unmasked face and birthname.
So he began to redeem himself. He fully embraced his code of honor and his serving for the Empire. After dealing with Makeb, Illum, Revan and Isoth, my Wrath understood what he already have all. His love and friends. He doesn't need to be "true Sith"
So... How KOTFE and KOTET events affected on my Wrath?
After losing Vette, he understood what he doesn't even need power or something another. He needs only her and his code of honor to be simply happy.
After the reunion, love between my Wrath and Vette ignited again and this time, he did everything to be sure he is a good husband.
And after all of this events, my Wrath became entire different person. He became much more caring about people around him, learned to lead with inspiration and honor for the name of peace and protecting innocents. And EVEN began to joke! Like imitating Vookie's rough or having fun with Mecha Droid (Vette even promised one to him for Life Day). Seriously, he didn't joked very much until KOTET.
At first he wanted to destroy the Eternal Throne, but he claimed its power as peacekeeper. Honestly, I promised myself to never change his outfit since I made it perfect for me, but I changed his clothes from black, gray and red to black, white and yellow. He abandoned his red lightsaber and made a new one, with gold yellow blade. It felt just right to change it!
I wrote all of this, to share with my emotions about all this story and how AMAZING its was not only because of itself, but how it connected to Wrath and how he changed in this story. How he progresses as a character, despite not even having arc in the plot! How he changed his behavior and ideals to be a leader for the Eternal Alliance and be a better husband, friend. Even in Force he became something beyond Light and Dark, something beyond my understanding. He is not Revan or grey sith, he is just... Wrath. I felt it, I felt it all and now Wrath is one of my favorite Star Wars characters. He is just too badass!
And I know unfortunately all other classes (expect Knight) doesn't fit to the story of the Eternal Empire. And it's just too BAD what devs decided to kill Darth Maar in first chapter. He was to cool!
May the Force be with you, and serve you well.
This game needs to be remastered, the animation is really aging badly
After 10 years , they are going to change the rendering
How do you propose to remaster an MMORPG with an active community?
@@mahadkhawer7267 I hope someday this game gets a council release that's much more small scaled Have you seen the size of the dunes of tattooing like holy fuck they made this realistic as far as Star Wars is concerned
@@amandag.6186 I'm not really a technical expert on that kind of thing I'm just hoping they update it somehow
@Darth Doge wym? Is it being remastered?
This is a brilliant storyline, why Disney did not choose to turn this into a trilogy is beyond me.
Because it'd be replaced with LBGT and race swaps like the little mermaid
It's a bit of an awkward timeline to do a trilogy im gonna be honest
@@Jodacro-it4zz how so?
@@LegionShade Base on my research this timeline was 4,000 years before the era of the original and prequels of the movie
Disney sucks. I'm glad they didn't butcher such a masterpiece.
Man. This is so awkwardly executed.
Glorious schlock
I was 900th like
In true star wars tradition...
It's a 2011 game. Get over it lol
i felt really bad for marr, he was a rlly good leader for the sith empire. like ik he wasnt the most powerful sith ruler, but unlike vitiate/valkorion he cared about the empire and lead them with leadership and honor.
Absolutely, he deserved to become Emporor. He had all the qualities one needs to make the Empire better than the Republic, even morally.
@@Mediados sorry for the late reply, i missed it lol. yeah he was the supreme leader (dictator) of the empire, just wasnt dubbed the emperor, but idk if he wanted to be dubbed the emperor tbh but he could have if he wanted to.
@@Mediados He probably wouldn't last much though because you know... Sith.
@@life_is_a_myth I wouldn't bet on it. He's not the most powerful Sith, but cunning enough to know who to surround himself with and to hold the throne.
@@SosaL432 The forms stopped him from claiming the title. If he had stepped up to declare himself Emporor, the balance on the Dark Council would be gone. The Council would duel him over the position, the Hand would call him a heretic and plot with their fanatics, and the other Sith already saw his word as law. Going for the throne would have only brought instability.
even now his voice sends shivers down my spine, I love him so much
Valkorions voice? If yes I agree with you
That's Darin de Paul.
He's also Reinhardt from Overwatch and Samuel Hayden from Doom 2016.
5:43
Valkorian: that is why you fail
Yoda: hey, my line, that is
Trademarked it is, use it, you cannot.
valkorion is far older than yoda, so its valkorions line
@@lordescanor8232 and Yoda was created long before Valkorian was so my point still stands
@@LFonTVYoda: “Transcended the timeline, I have.”
2:50 "uuurh." - Some guy idk
*Weeeeee*
A lot of people complain about the animation, but we all love kotor 1 and 2 and the animation in those games has not aged well at all. It’s really the writing for me, and the writing in this scene is still really strong despite the animation
Graphics arnt bad I still dont see why ppl complain about trailers and gameplay. They are made with 2 different engines that have as much in common as a dog and a duck. Shared ancestors yes but over time they have diverged so greatly.
azurequincy that’s because they haven’t played the game
@@Matli1804 yeah this game never got me the first time i played it but i got back into it and i am hooked on the story maxed out a char in less than a month... story is fantastic
Now i see where Kylo kills Snoke and becomes lord idea came from...
no
can you explain what are thinking by saying that?
@@mikapoful u mean what are u thinking lol
@@uncharted7againblackking256 yes I mean that lol
You know, actually most people are as dumb as u are .
Make sure you dont accidentally poke someones eye out with your spiky things on your back.
Cynane damn dbs
Hahaha funny😅😅😅😅
Dont hug that guy
DUDE JUST LET YOU WALK UP BEHIND HIM , HA HA
ikr, i came here after watching all those bad azz trailers for this game and this is supposedly how it ends?!? BAHAHA
had u played it? couse u know he was planning it so he can get inside you and try to take ur body
Yeah he wanted to get "killed"
@@fawkumean378 This is not how it ends, this is how it begins.
@@rapidtreal4612 he didn’t planned it… I doubt he wanted to die and be limited…
I love how Darth marr calls him out “it is you who fears death”
Marr was the best :(
Totally Agree,He was the Strongest Sith In Dark Council.
The first time I was playing this, I almost teared up at this scene when Marr died, he was one of my favourite characters... such a badass :D
4.25 Size of them handcuffs. It would take all your strength to just stand up in 'em. I want a pair so people can't escape from my basement so easily. Sick of it.
4:25
Is that you Mr. Plinkett?
The animation of the game may be stiff and sometimes annoyingly repetitive. But god damn it I stand tooth and nail to say this was well done for what it is.
As sad as it was that this was Lord Marr's last stand, he went out with a weapon in his hand. A Sith Warrior can ask for no better end.
why can't this be a Single player game? Bioware wasted their efforts.
The grind is essentially nonexistent now, you just level as you do the story missions until max with maybe a few side missions. If you want to play it like a single player game, go ahead.
Templusify i wonder why they did that, im playing it now and having a blast as F2P player
There are full games worth of DLC Story at the end which they want you to be able to get to. Pay for sub once and you unlock it, which is great.
But wait a minute - on another video, I saw people complaining that it wasn't MMO-based enough. Toxic, indecisive community that complains about everything apparently
Justin Lacek Not everyone is the same. Just because some people say some things doesn't mean all people automatically agree.
2:51 Most impressive lightning in Star Wars though.
Bah Marr wasn't even disintegrated
@@analothor There is no model dismemberment in which if there was he would have been disintegrated
@@galenmarek2943 I know fans don't really accept it as canon but the emperor did at the end of return of the rise of skywalker felt like an accurate display of his power
@@analothor That was a clone of palpatine
@@galenmarek2943 or was it the original...no one knows because most of the movie was non senesical bs
I find it funny how Some Star Wars “fans” criticize the prequels for having more advanced tech not understanding that Star Wars technology does not progress linearly, it wants and waxes. Which is why the old republic often has more advanced technology.
Warhammer 40k : hold my 41st century having far worse tech than the 30th.
@Osmar L it was canon when the game was made, and as far as im concerned, if they dont outright give an alternate story conflicting with the events of Kotor1&2 and SWTOR, anything in the old republic era is canon.
Idk about that….
Despite being literally the same guy, Vitiate and Valkorion seem very different for me. Vitiate is just a rip-off of Palpatine. Valkorion’ dilemma with his family is far more interesting.
they seriously need to make nights of the old republic a movie trilogy it be amazing they can do so much with it
joe cartier before Disney bought star wars there were planning on makeing an old republic trilogy but it never happend
it's still canon to itself
Too much story for trilogy
Tim Woods They could still make A Star Wars Story Movie for it
Id honestly rather wish for a Knights of the old republic film, Nights of the old republic could be a bit boring.
Marr went out like a Badass. R.I.P. Marr😔
Is it just me or does the voice of Valkorion (tone, mannerisms and all) sound not unlike a certain Supreme Leader?
This scene totally feels like the Throne Room scene from the new movie.
Michael Sorrentino bro!
Michael Sorrentino snoke isn't human
I would LOVE for this to be true. It could explain MANY things about Snoke, Knights of Ren and First Order in a cool way. If this was true then I would assume that he created Knights of Ren to find worthy vessel for his soul, body that would not rot from his overwhelming power of dark side like body of Snoke and Ben Solo's body could have the biggest potential to contain his power.
Illuminati Valkorian ain’t human either. Well at least his original body.
He was from the Sith species and has black eyes as dark as the void.
I still don't get why The Old Republic just couldn't have made as a single player game. It's pretty much Knights of the Old Republic 3. Hell it's basically what happens when Star Wars decides to be Romancing Saga/Saga Frontier.
Maybe becaue they focus on storytelling than gameplay
@@Imperial_Remnant Uhh, exactly. Honestly a single-player game makes more sense for story-telling, than an MMO does.
I mean, I can jump to another video right now and see people complaining that they should make it more.multiplayer/mmo focused. Just a bunch of people who dont play the game complaining over what it should bd.
Oh yes, My reply is kinda retarded. So, if I'm not wrong many MMO got their money from subscription isn't? So my theory is that they make it a MMO because they want some sort of steady income.
@@justinlacek1481 I play the game. Have played it since first open beta. Love the game. They should have made a single player sequel to Kotor 2 instead.
5:26 vitiate could easily be saying this to disney " no ambition only jealousy"
Valkorian deserves his own live action
Better than the last movies
Jay Higgs And Prequels
Nope.
Am i the only one who actually likes the Prequels more than the original Movies?
MidgetKek you are not alone
what?
Am I the only one who thinks, that this is a bit like the stuff from TLJ? I mean: Sith apprentice catchs the enemy and brings it to the sith leaders throne room. The apprentice betrays his master/leader and fights side by side with the enemy against the leader. The leader dies, the enemy escapes and the apprentice is like "I dont know what happened here, but I am the big boss now"
DarthKawaiiBTS
Dont worry, I know that, but I was about to say, that Disney maybe was inspiried by that🤔
@@thisiswherethefunbegins38 Inspired?
@@FalconOnFilm ?
Yea but this is the reversal version
And RoS is pretty much the entire plot of Kotfe/kotet
I wish this was made today rather than in 2008. Could really benefit from the technology and consoles available to fufill the games scope and ambition without sacrificing aesthetics
Marr died like a glorious hero does...
Fighting!
People really out here expecting game graphics to be EXACTLY like the trailers lol
While being completely oblivious to the fact that their pc would not survive if the game actually had those graphics, lol.
And love it. People talk shit about the trailers and the gameplay but I never saw someone talking about WoW this way. And is literally the same shit, dope realistic cinematics and this kind of graphics. Lmao
my cheese toasty is nowhere near this cheesy!
came here after watching the cinematic compilation of swtor.. got a bit surprised to say the least.
Playing this currently with my Chiss Agent. It's so detailed that it's like it's own stand alone spinoff game O.O & Darth Marr dying from a little Force lightning was embarrassingly pathetic, sustained FL I could see but not one quick shock.
might isn't always so obvious in the hands of a master and Valkorion is most defiantly a master.
you sure his lighting wasnt UNLIMITED POWAR?
Facts what an embarrassment of an ending After all that hard talk shit smh
I think it was mainly to show how powerful Valkorion was.
“I will not kneel!”
That line has so much more relevance in 2020.
Darth Marr was my homey. One of the awesomest characters in SWTOR.
I wish the Eternal empire had a theme that wasn't as bright and cheery, it should have been darker.
With of due respect my lord.
But you did make it this way.
I think it's the themes of re inventing himself
I was disappointed for darth Marr to die like that he was my favorite sith lord and he was one of the few sith to truly see your characters true potential (I've only played sith inquisitor so far)
Same, but since we were captured by Vitiate I didn't expect him to survive, after all he has no reason to spare us.
While I'm sad that he did die, his method of death was perfect for a Sith: in an act of defiance of another who would chain him, weapon in hand.
:( Darth Marr ;_;
I love this. Arcann, Thexan and Vaylin are three of my most favourite Star Wars characters of all time alongside Phasma, Boba Fett, Darth Maul, Savage Opress, Darth Vader and more
Phasma would have fit better in the old republic
This alone is better than everything disney ever made
i would have prefered a kotor 3 as swtor, but i would have liked they used a villain like valkoryon.
Não é possível enganar Vitiate, assim como não seria possível vencer Vitiate ou realizar algo que ele já não tivesse previsto, logo essa sequencia só teria acontecido se fosse a vontade dele abandonar o corpo de Valkorion. Porém o corpo de Valkorion, à esta época, não apresentava sinais de decrepitude que justificassem esse abandono dramático, além de desorganizar um império que levou mais de mil anos para organizar.
Valkorion foi declarado como sendo o ser mais poderoso de sua época. Isso significa que ele é mais poderoso do que os deuses de Star Wars.
Sei que o comentário é velho, mas se eu não me engano foi exatamente isso que ocorreu, ele deixou ser morto, ele queria abandonar o "Valkorion" para pegar o corpo do jogador, visto que em Ziost, ele propositalmente não faz nada contra o jogador depois de um tempo por achá-lo interessante. E na história do Cavaleiro Jedi, o Vitiate diz que vai viver a vida como tudo que existe, "um músico, um artista", e que no final ele veria o reinício do universo.
Better than the sequels
Aha I knew it, Valkorion's voiced by Darin de Paul! Thought I recognized it somewhere. Very Ardyn-y, but a tad deeper. Fitting I guess since both are evil immortal manipulators.
valkorion cant die !
I feel like Michael Ironside would play Emperor Valkorion perfectly in live-action.
vaylin:...
arcan: you are late!
vaylin: tch... I....
*valkorion gives her a stare*
vaylin: clear the room!
arcan: That includes you too!
*vaylin leaves*
Tbh sometimes I think the best way to enjoy this scene is to close your eyes and just imagine the how the characters are moving around in your head.
I love darth marr. one of my top 5 favorite sith. maybe even one of my favorite star wars characters
2:20 I’m so glad that Darth Marr called out valkyrions cowardice, the fear of death is something even normal people can overcome but he could not
All i can hear is.. it's three dog auuuuuuw!
Way to ruin the game for me 😂
RIP DARTH MARR, A TRUE IMPERIAL PATRIOT
MF emperor dies and all he says as his last word is "so be it?" must be planning something like Sidious when he died.
Why is this reminds me of rey and kylo ren scene in TLJ?
Because Disney not only rips of the OT. It rips off games that it owns :P
He sounds like Darth Revan with a cold.
i thought the nigga was immortal?? bravo to Darin De Paul for the legendary voice acting.
Darth Marr had some sick ass guitar chops! when playing with the band The Siths alongside Lord Morr-Iz-A, they produced some bangers together
Emperor vitiate and emperor valkorion are the same
DARTH VADER Reaalyyyy???
Spartan Løcke yes the emperor was killed but came back as valkorian
@@jimmu8689 has he come back again after this?
@@heymitch1519 yes
Valkorion allowed his physical death to take the outlanders body as his new vessel. In the Sith story line one of the teachers which is the female Sith sorcerer tries to do the same thing.
Lol ardyn izunia is less "oily" here
Off my chair jester, the kings sits there.... oh wait wrong game
" A god has no family "
Zeus and his seasons of incest disagrees with that notion
The way that Darth Marr died was a pathetic way for him to go. Even Galen Marek and Darth Vader both went out with a blaze of glory.
Is this a game or a movie and what is its name?
@@ahmed.kazm3625 star wars: The Old Republic. It was a cutscene from an mmorpg game.
@@BottleDeopt Thank you very much
I guess, but the scene earlier where Marr rams his ship into the Eternal Fleet is supposed to be his blaze of glory. This is just him finally saying his piece, as the de-facto leader of the Empire, to the Emperor.
This isn't the last we see of Marr anyway.
Why re the people mumbling about game animations and graphic and compare them to PRE-RENDERED CGI TRAILER and saying that they re bad? Like... yeah, they re worse then in trailer just like in every fcking game. WoW, TESO, FFXIV and every other MMO s have trailer that re cool af but ingame looks lot worse. ' cause its CGI trailers. If there was a mark "Ingame footage" then it would be a different conversation but wtf?
wow that animation tho looks stunning
kingslayer Pierre yee ikr
i thought it was the cinematic trailer 😂😂
7:59 why does the subtitle says "Prince Arcann: ..." I thought he just got promoted into Emperor? :P
Its kinda sad how they killed marr like that,it should have been an emotional death not a simple one
Marr was what the sith needed to endure perhaps the sith empire could have lasted longer if their were more like him.
0:00 - 0:40 can we please hold it that the music at the beginning is soooo Beautiful and i love that the most?
So if Darth Marr dies (tragic, they kill all the good (not good as in good and evil but good as in being a good character) sith characters) is Dath Nox/Occlus/Imperius the stronguest member of the Dark Council?
At this rate he is the only one left... maybe?
Canonically/officially, in terms of the Old Republic storyline, both Nox and the Empire's Wrath were either died in combat or disappeared for good in the war fought when the Eternal Empire attacked. The Outlander is technically an entirely different character, but both the Wrath and Nox are gone by the time chapter 2 takes place. They mention in one of the codices that every single member of the Dark Council went out this way - either dead or disappeared.
The only high-ranking Sith to last was Darth Acina. This is part of why she became Empress; all of her rivals were gone.
Clearly now, we can see how the Empire eventually crumbled and died off, giving way to Darth Ruin millenia later. Their ebtire powerbase was broken apart by the Eternal Empire. This is why the KotFE trailer only shows them fighting the Sith - because that's who caught the brunt of the EE. Without the Emperor, the Wrath, Nox, Marr or virtually any of their power characters and Council members left, the Sith stood no chance.
The next major expansion (which is supposed to get back into the republic vs empire focus) is probably going to get into detail over how the Sith broke apart. I wouldn't be surprised if it starts with a splinter faction of Sith breaking away from Acina. They might just have where the player character forms his/her own splinter group. From there on, it's history - different groups breaking off from each other
Justin Lacek Actually, Darth Vowrawn survived too, as he always does. Some say that Arcann had a thing with Acina too.
About Nox, I like to think that he saw the shit coming and went to explore the Rishi Maze in his quest for immortality, but that's just what I like to think.
@@hectorantias3173 You're right, Vowrawn did survive. He's a weakling though, that's the only problem
@@justinlacek1481 no whoever you take into the exspansion is the out lander its just that the classes you arent playing as disappear
quick question so this takes place before vader and darth sidious right?
About 3000 years before, yes.
This doesn't take place in the Star Wars canon actually. It is its own thing.
Yes because they own it.
Thats called headcanon. The real canon will always be what Disney decides.
Dragonspheres Indeed, though legends or Disney Canon, it really depends on who's writing it. All writers have their own ups and downs. But anyways unfortunately Disney are the ones who has 4 billion dollars and can do whatever they please now....
06:00 I'm dying LMAO 😂😂😂😂😂😂OK I need to go back to therapy.😂😂😂😂😂😂
Mandalorians and the knights of zakuul, the best characters ever in star wars canon
I only wish I could have genocide Zakuul tbh
He didn't burn the Core Worlds like he promised!
That bastard lied to us
People of the core world, probably
Some days ago i saw the two recent star wars movies (the force awakens rogue one). Actually rogue one events occured many years before the events in force awakens as i read in the timeline. Will see the movies again. Love them. Now i want to read the books. As for thr game mmm most of the comments are negative.
The resolution to the two Kotor games. This is what they did with it
I'm not even that sad that this didn't come for Console.
He's not dead guy he is the most powerful Sith too ever live he is just toying with them this is one of his vessels
So sad for Marr. I liked him.
The graphics and animation look pretty good for a game for a pre Force Unleashed Star Wars game
Tenebrae, Vitiate, Valkorian, and maybe... Snoke???
That would be nice but keep dreaming. Vitiate would never reincarnate himself as an ugly ass old dude with chunk of his head missing.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder though. There have been some really ugly looking Sith in the galaxy. I don't think Vitate would care as long as the vessel met his goals.
CuteGallifreyian true
RikkiTikkiTavi Valkorian as Snoke would be one of the most badass things in history.
RikkiTikkiTavi unless it's his original body
Am I watching Star Wars the last Jedi
I feel that Marr's sacrifice could've been better. It would've been better if Marr did something more powerful, but BioWare threw him away
Darth Marr died like: "is... is just this?"
@@cartuchonovo2470 Definitely.
Just realized this is quite similar to the last Jedi ending of the whole Kylo Ren and Snoke dynamic...
the music score is great
For a guy called Emperor he was suprisingly easy to kill. Like seriously it took a 15 minute lightsaber fight to kill darth Maul and it took an entire team of jedi to kill Darth Malgus but Emporer Valkorian is killed by a guy with terrible lightsaber fighting technic and a girl who doesn't even do anything.
Valkorion wasnt killed there.
He isnt dead
Didn't even die. Neither did Maul
Marr was ultra powerful more powerful then dooku and was killed by one stroke of valkorians lightning . This just goes to show how much people underestimate valkorians hes the most powerful force user in the whole star wars saga
This game needs remaster.
Award winning animation here guys...
(yeah I know its FTP, just a little joke)
You think they'd update the textures after all these years
They did, it looks way better than previous chapters
@@MrThecrazyzombie still doesn't look great
@cringe2win146 than why doesn't it look more modern?
@@novustalks7525 because it's an older game that runs on a spaghetti engine. Of course there are limitations of changes that they can make. It's simpler to just make a whole new game