Line 6 Helix Update 3 50 - A Metal Guy's Perspective

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  • Опубліковано 3 лис 2022
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    Line 6 Helix Update 3 50 - A Metal Guy's Perspective
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  • @Place_to_keep_videos
    @Place_to_keep_videos Рік тому +10

    The feel of the new cabs is so much more dynamic. Axe FX levels of realistic, authentic amp tone and feel.

    • @ariraphiel39
      @ariraphiel39 Рік тому

      really? thats why I gave up my helix for kemper and quad cortex, would love to come back if it actually feels better

  • @padulaj
    @padulaj Рік тому +2

    Great video! Thanks so much for sharing your presets as well.

  • @AndrewStonerock
    @AndrewStonerock Рік тому +12

    The helix's main setback has always been the stock cabs. All us metal heads have hated them since the helix came out. Honestly, it's the reason so many of us use third-party IRs for recording and FOH. These new cabs sound like third-party IRs. It's insane how much of an improvement it is. Plus, they finally added the ampeg fridge for the bass cabs. I'm excited about that because I made some fridge IRs. I finally have a helix cab to the helix cab to.

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Рік тому +3

      Thanks for commenting. I totally agree. The stock cabs have always been hideous. I'm so glad they did this

    • @AndrewStonerock
      @AndrewStonerock Рік тому +2

      @@TONEWARSgearshow you can get kind of crazy with the dual cab feature and go for the fredman technique. Use the same cab on both sides. One mic at the sweet spot and another on a 45. It's huge. I do it all the time in my studio. It's also known as the in flames clayman sound.

    • @dtotheatothevtothee
      @dtotheatothevtothee Рік тому

      @@AndrewStonerock I've been using York Audio's 212 DV77 IR - the mix one with the Fredman setup. I'll have to try setting up the cabs that way and compare.

  • @ThomasOnGuitar
    @ThomasOnGuitar Рік тому +2

    Man, this was a great watch! I`ve been up and down the IR rabit hole for some time, but this new update is amazing! The new cabs really sound fantastic. Thanx man👍

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Рік тому

      It was absolutely my pleasure. Thank you so much for watching and commenting.
      I agree, the new cabs are much better than the stock ones that it shipped with originally.

  • @khall187
    @khall187 Рік тому +3

    Jarrod! Huge update from Helix. Great video as always!

  • @wilshirejkk
    @wilshirejkk Рік тому +1

    Great video, brother! Gotta download the new update and check this stuff out

  • @AlexanderShibilski
    @AlexanderShibilski Рік тому +4

    I haven't updated my helix floor for over a year, will need to update it!

  • @sjsphotog
    @sjsphotog Рік тому

    WOW killer tone and playing. rock on!!!! Love the new Invecta amp for sure. never thought we'd get the moveable mics but we got it! Line 6 rocks!!

  • @gangoa07
    @gangoa07 Рік тому +1

    Thanks!

  • @AWMJoeyjoejoe
    @AWMJoeyjoejoe Рік тому

    I had no idea about this update. I'm going to have to download it and try it out!

  • @Claimjumper55
    @Claimjumper55 Рік тому +4

    Great run through Jarrod!!! I'm off to recreate your preset on my Helix and HX Stomp. I got my Helix on the 1st shipment back in October of 2015. It's amazing that 7 years later it still keeps getting better and better. I got an email from Line 6 saying that, since the Helix 1st shipped, there have been 16 free firmware updates that added 47 amps, 31 cabs, 187 effects and scores of new features. One super cool thing in the 3.5 update is that they reduced the DSP usage for the cabs and IR's by 66-80%. Running 2 IR's now uses less DSP than 1 did previously.

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for commenting and for the kind words. I agree, they've really been good at updating this product and supporting it the whole time it's been out. I was also one of the 1st people in Michigan to get mine when it was 1st released.
      I'll be going live with it in a little bit here. I'm going to build a preset with some snapshots and then play it in some mixes.

    • @StratsRUs
      @StratsRUs Рік тому +3

      Well said !

  • @eTERNIAN69
    @eTERNIAN69 Рік тому +2

    Dude you killed it in the Mix, Nice one.

  • @collierpj
    @collierpj Рік тому +2

    Vitirol Settings 2:02
    Cab settings 3:16
    4 Voice Chorus 6:58
    Mod/Chorus Echo 10:59
    Pillars 12:29
    Noise Gate 12:35
    LA Studio Comp 12:55

  • @EliPorterMahn
    @EliPorterMahn Рік тому

    Just made a super mean MK IV tone with a Cali V30 and XXL V30 with a 808 boost and LA comp, these stock cabs sound great now! Line 6 really came through

  • @jrlee243
    @jrlee243 Рік тому +1

    Looks like it's time to dust off the old helix. Sounds great, and full. I stopped using my modelers after I got the blug amp1 for live shows. I certainly used the hell out of the helix, It's looking rough. But she still turns on. Thanks for showing this. I would have never known.

  • @56brever
    @56brever Рік тому +1

    Sickly toanz.

  • @zakklee2556
    @zakklee2556 Рік тому

    Will the Helix Lt route stereo to a pair of monitors* without cab block while routing stereo to front of house with cab blocks.
    * indicates Line 6 Powercab plus in guitar speaker mode (non FRFR)

  • @MartyV666
    @MartyV666 Рік тому +2

    by grabthar's hammer, what an update

  • @AD1978leo
    @AD1978leo Рік тому +2

    Dammit Jarrod, I'm trying to save money! lol

  • @BobbyCulpepper.srv3fender
    @BobbyCulpepper.srv3fender Рік тому

    How did you get so much space between the speaker circles and the bars? I only see about 3 bars. I can't figure out how to resize the window

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Рік тому

      Sorry I wish I knew the answer to your question. I just pulled up the screen and that's what I saw. I didn't make any adjustments

  • @collierpj
    @collierpj Рік тому

    You didn't show the Amp lead snapshot settings. Great vid though and love the tones!

  • @muleblues71
    @muleblues71 Рік тому

    I have the HX effects. It has IR capabilities. I'm running it via 4cm with a tube amp. Trying to figure it out to running a cable from hx to powered mixer to run FOH instead of a mic. I know there are different signal paths, etc that are needed. Any ideas?

    • @Claimjumper55
      @Claimjumper55 Рік тому +1

      I think I'm following what you're trying to do. I can see how, with HX Effects, you could easily get the preamp side of your amp to work by going out the amp's effects send. I don't know how you could possibly get the poweramp section of your amp back into the HX Effects without putting a mic on a cab or using an attenuator/loadbox.

    • @rawkout
      @rawkout Рік тому

      I used to do the same with a peavy jsx; replaced it with a Orange Pedal baby and it was the best decision I've made in awhile no joke. I'd recommend looking into it, or another power amp.

  • @AshishGershom
    @AshishGershom Рік тому

    Very nice video bro... Great sound
    I loved it
    #ashishgershom 🎸

  • @julienperrocheau2247
    @julienperrocheau2247 Рік тому

    Amazing video as always !!! Would you keep the same amp for your cleans ? Could you make a videos with the new cab possibilities for clean metal tones ? Thanks a lot and thanks for the quality and playing !

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Рік тому +1

      Thank you very much.
      I'll see what I can do regarding the cleans.

    • @julienperrocheau2247
      @julienperrocheau2247 Рік тому

      Thanks ! I will check your channel and i'm sure i'll learn something for you! Take care!

  • @al23x56
    @al23x56 Рік тому

    Hey, watched your other video where you’ve hidden Kemper behind the “?” In the video :) How do you feel about Helix considering the recent update? I’m considering between Helix and FM3, mostly for rock/hi gain sounds. Do you think Helix has improved in terms of getting closer to that feel/sound that Fractal can produce?

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Рік тому

      Good question. Honestly I think the helix is sounding good. The update didn't really improve the overall sound, it just gave us more features.
      That said, you mentioned Helix and FM3. Why not consider the Kemper?

  • @pipelineaudio
    @pipelineaudio Рік тому

    Are you going to get some presets out from this? Some of the settings were changed in the background so aren't really shown

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Рік тому

      Are you asking if I'm going to be making a preset for marketplace?

  • @brettgrey5658
    @brettgrey5658 Рік тому

    Great tone! What exactly are we hearing on our end? It sounds so full, like a tube amp. Is this direct from the Helix, or an frfr/studio monitor? Thanks?

  • @sb6232
    @sb6232 Рік тому +6

    Great video. The Line 6 Helix/Stomp/and Pod go always seem to get the Bronze when compaired to Kemper and Axe FX...Obviously 3rd party IR's make a HUGE difference..It's nice to see Line6 continously uprgrading existing models...getting closer!! Makes me want to pick up anoth Line6 unit. Nice job.

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Рік тому

      Thank you for commenting. There are definitely some great things about the heal experience I think the interface is awesome. The cabs have always been lacking in my opinion. Hopefully this will give them a better shot at winning the race.

    • @WarrenBey
      @WarrenBey Рік тому

      Sound and features:
      1. Quad Cortex
      2. Axe FX 3 (Axe FX really should be farther down because of how terrible the interface is)
      3. Helix
      ...
      4. Kemper
      Price wise:
      1. Helix

  • @ConstantineM
    @ConstantineM Рік тому +1

    Great vid!
    But for me the Master on Vitriol is too high. 5 or less is best for metal. It's more tight.
    Turning master that high really oversaturate the amp and it's not as tight as it can be.
    But I think you know what you are doing and this is just your preference.

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Рік тому +3

      Thanks for commenting. I'll have to mess with it some more.
      This was just a quick video to demonstrate all of the new updates.

  • @ramon2008
    @ramon2008 Рік тому

    Holy shit man that last jam that you played was as fucking awesome! Great tone and great riffs! Was that your own shit ?

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! Yes it's an original song. It's called "Night Terrors"
      I'm recording a solo album right now and it will be released with the next few months.

    • @ramon2008
      @ramon2008 Рік тому

      @@TONEWARSgearshow dope shit man. No what name will it be released under ? Is your music on Spotify ?

  • @Scott__C
    @Scott__C Рік тому +1

    The real solution is to just never use a cab, straight amp sound, baby! LOL! Seriously, being able to move the mic is great and the fact that it uses A LOT less DSP is huge too.

  • @galkaarek
    @galkaarek Рік тому

    Hi there. Any chance to buy this preset bro? Regards !

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Рік тому

      Thank you very much. I'm currently working on some presets for Line 6's marketplace. They should be up within the next week or so

  • @jimbotski
    @jimbotski Рік тому

    Are these Dynamic IRs?

  • @bmadderom
    @bmadderom Рік тому +1

    TONE WARS! Please realize when you change the delay of one speaker to 4 milliseconds, then delay the next speaker 4 milliseconds, you ultimately delayed both speakers the same. I watch you mess around with the delays of both speakers during this video at about 6 minutes in. You may want to take down this video and repost it. It looks really silly when you mess around with both speakers delays. It also causes confusion for people that are relying on this video for direction. Only delay one speaker.

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Рік тому +2

      Thanks for commenting. You know what's funny? I was wondering why they allowed us to move the delay on both speakers. I'm not used to that feature being like that ... on the 2 notes captor X, you just move one "slider" and it sets the delay for you.
      I was just playing around with it in the video just to show what you can do with it. And like I said in the video, it's been a while since I've messed with the helix software.
      Again, it's really weird that you can move the delay on both speakers.

  • @WarrenBey
    @WarrenBey Рік тому

    Self proclaimed "metal guy" doesn't even doom out to the Sunn O))) Model T and Life Pedal. SMH.
    Plays 20 minutes of generic Ass Rock.
    Metal status: DENIED!
    Poser status: Confirmed

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Рік тому +5

      First of all, I don't "doom." Secondly, I was reviewing the cabs and the Invective model in this video. I wasn't interested in the Sunn for this video. Thirdly, regarding my riffs, they are not generic riffs. I know with your head up your ass, it's hard to hear the difference, but ......
      Hey, here's an idea, start your own channel and do it your way. I bet you wouldn't have the first clue how to do it. Lastly, thanks for reminding me of why I'm so glad I'm not in the helix group. You represent everything thats wrong with it

    • @WarrenBey
      @WarrenBey Рік тому

      @@TONEWARSgearshow Blame Helix for your shit guitar playing. Nice one! No amount of gear in the world can make you unsuck. Poser. You should probably just pick up bass at this point.

  • @colelewis9940
    @colelewis9940 Рік тому

    Cool in concept. However it's still..... Line 6 IR's. So it's just different variations of the sound of fried butthole.