If they made a 'homebase' version of this that could connect to the Global-PTT network via ethernet, it'd be a nice addition. For me though, as a mobile operator it'd not really much use if I already have my phone and other device. I think their main target is commercial use, and to be fair it looks like a much easier way to hand out radio gear to staff than setting up DMR and reprogramming them.
A device, OS and network agnostic platform like zello, that you can also use on a watch or POC device is a bit more appealing. No mention of encryption or security.
this is why a lot of people prefer zello. even when all official zello servers goes down, there are publicly available unofficial servers usually ran by universities. But it's only really because you can buy your own on-prem server and you can do whatever you want with it
Having worked a few big events, (horse racing mainly) I would not trust having my staff coms over cellular. The networks are usually heavily loaded and sometimes overloaded particularly at key moments. Maybe it doesn't happen these days with better infrastructure but 10 years ago we constantly had issues with our mobile phones.
That's a great point actually mate: the digital cellular framework is overworked, and doesn't have 100 percent reliability or resilience. Then again, nothing is 100 percent, but normal VHF comms performance is always going to be a direct reflection of the operator's experience, competencies, kit and, of course, the good old weather... I'm with you on this one... 🏴👍
Thats people placing bets by mobile phone on betting exchanges. Not a lot of data but a huge number of phones connecting at one mast. I notice our local racecourse had a giant mobile phone added near it recently.
These devices seem to make logical use of technology to solve one particular problem well. The thing that worries me, since the devices won’t work on Wi-Fi, how does one conclusively prove that the Chinese aren’t snooping users’ traffic?
The only way they could be snooping your traffic, would be the same way anyone else does. Whether it's the Chinese or the NSA - all of your data is being collected. It's just the way it is these days unfortunately. ALL of our data is being scrubbed. Going cellular like this? Digital scrub through the networks. Analog radio? Anyone can hear you voice, and scrub your data if you're sending packets. It's all the same.
Can you imagine how many companies might like to use this in a warehouse situation? I guess those people go with some of the other options or maybe they will release a WiFi version.
So your giving all this data to a Chinese company over a cell network. Are they storing any of the voice data? Do you have to type in serial numbers and then register each device to a user? Might be fun to play around with but not for SHTF stuff im assuming?
Good point... I think in SHTF situations, we'd probably lose the digital cellular networks anyway, so I'd be sticking to my good old, fully leaded VHF-type kit. Repeaters should still be areet too... Failing that, we could fall back on the old tin can and bitta string... 👍🏴
Why does it matter that it's a Chinese company? Every communication company in the world is monitoring, analyzing, and storing their customers' traffic and personal information. Do you think any of them care one bit about your interests or concerns?
How does this service compare to what was offered by Nextel, when it was still a going concern quite a few years back? I recall they made their brand identity their "direct connect" feature, which also was a push-to-talk function on their cell phones. I don't know if Nextel serviced Europe.
Just wondering how to switch out the sim card? If you put a new sim card in (for example a t-moble data card) can u just update the IMEI number on ur company platform page? Or do u have to notify global-ppt customer support with the new sim card info?
Good vid global ptt similar to zello? And if poss do you have links for the handsets? I especially like the black one at rear Looking forward to more vidz
All nice but where I live, these would end up in garbage. A lot of nearby villages don't have any GSM signal, or just barely 2G. People use dect phones to be reachable outside, or walkie talkies. 20 min from my town, not even one of national mobile providers have reach. Landlines + dect + pmr are needed.
So we use them for equipment setup where sometimes we need to work with people in the office back home. Home could be another state, or country. We use them to have quick discussions where a text won’t work but a phone call is inconvenient
I worked for a law enforcement agency that used PTT due to terrain issues and it being cheaper than a network of repeaters. Works great. No pro lem understanding dispatchers mumbling addresses.
@@RingwayManchester Thanks. I've tested cell to land line and there is a bit of a delay. However, this is cell phone to tower to land line connection to land line phone where the PTT would be PTT to tower to PTT if in the same cell.
Being safety critical you should only use two-way radios designed for professional use and on frequencies allocated for crane operations. The site safety officer would refuse to issue a permit for work, and your insurance would be void. The latency will be less than the crane operators response time, unless the network is overloaded, which is outside your control.
I need help! I just got the Linux wurui global ptt walkie talkies and I don't know how to connect them or anything. I've been trying to figure out how to use them for roughly an hour now andi don't know how to use them
Well I was full on light to and convinced that you could just use them right out of the box out of the box now I can't even get them to communicate with each other the user manual dead name and show you how to do anything with them I'm about to take a f****** Hammer to it
@@therowans1748 Same Same - I often never see links, that the video producer says will be put in the description. I wonder if UA-cam deletes them if they are not links to products that also buy Google advertising?
@@playipstreamsolutions5538 Yes I remember Nextel now that you mention it and in fact I believe Nextel had it first. Verizon came later, I must have had the date off. I owned a granite company with 6 employees and had Verizon’s PTT, which thinking about it, I believe it was advertised as Verizon on the Nextel network, so Verizon was contracting off Nextel. It was fairly good service but had issues of practicality in my companies case due to machines running we could not hear the call beep on the device. Those cell phones at that time did not have a vibration alert function, so with the shop machines running my guys could not hear the incoming PTT call beep alert, so I had to use a regular cell phone function and leave a VM and they would get back to me. Now, if someone had a delivery company and needed to communicate with their drivers, it was perfect.
We already had nextel and boost mobile which i loved and miss alot and i thought was way better because it was a phone and ptt but they got rid of that for some reason
If they made a 'homebase' version of this that could connect to the Global-PTT network via ethernet, it'd be a nice addition. For me though, as a mobile operator it'd not really much use if I already have my phone and other device. I think their main target is commercial use, and to be fair it looks like a much easier way to hand out radio gear to staff than setting up DMR and reprogramming them.
Rapid radios makes them for your car.
A device, OS and network agnostic platform like zello, that you can also use on a watch or POC device is a bit more appealing. No mention of encryption or security.
What happens if/when they turn off the servers in Singapore? We've seen this with IoT stuff before.
Then you have a shiny paperweight unless you register the device with another PTT service provider.
this is why a lot of people prefer zello. even when all official zello servers goes down, there are publicly available unofficial servers usually ran by universities. But it's only really because you can buy your own on-prem server and you can do whatever you want with it
High chance there's already being a open source server made
Zello also sucks ass and is unreliable.
Love the variety of comms available to us for different applications. Great video
Having worked a few big events, (horse racing mainly) I would not trust having my staff coms over cellular. The networks are usually heavily loaded and sometimes overloaded particularly at key moments. Maybe it doesn't happen these days with better infrastructure but 10 years ago we constantly had issues with our mobile phones.
That's a great point actually mate: the digital cellular framework is overworked, and doesn't have 100 percent reliability or resilience. Then again, nothing is 100 percent, but normal VHF comms performance is always going to be a direct reflection of the operator's experience, competencies, kit and, of course, the good old weather... I'm with you on this one... 🏴👍
Thats people placing bets by mobile phone on betting exchanges. Not a lot of data but a huge number of phones connecting at one mast. I notice our local racecourse had a giant mobile phone added near it recently.
These devices seem to make logical use of technology to solve one particular problem well. The thing that worries me, since the devices won’t work on Wi-Fi, how does one conclusively prove that the Chinese aren’t snooping users’ traffic?
Always assume they are.
Thats excatly what i thought too, i wouldnt trust the chinese or anybody else for that matter, i'll stick with my uhf radio....
The only way they could be snooping your traffic, would be the same way anyone else does. Whether it's the Chinese or the NSA - all of your data is being collected. It's just the way it is these days unfortunately. ALL of our data is being scrubbed. Going cellular like this? Digital scrub through the networks. Analog radio? Anyone can hear you voice, and scrub your data if you're sending packets. It's all the same.
that's the subscription cost that no one is talking about. you always have to give somebody something. it's not always money
Pity they are not WiFi. Ive no issue with Network radios and your channel was the first that i heard it from.
Can you imagine how many companies might like to use this in a warehouse situation? I guess those people go with some of the other options or maybe they will release a WiFi version.
Will they work in areas where there is no cell service ? Thanks
So your giving all this data to a Chinese company over a cell network. Are they storing any of the voice data? Do you have to type in serial numbers and then register each device to a user? Might be fun to play around with but not for SHTF stuff im assuming?
Good point... I think in SHTF situations, we'd probably lose the digital cellular networks anyway, so I'd be sticking to my good old, fully leaded VHF-type kit. Repeaters should still be areet too... Failing that, we could fall back on the old tin can and bitta string... 👍🏴
Why does it matter that it's a Chinese company? Every communication company in the world is monitoring, analyzing, and storing their customers' traffic and personal information. Do you think any of them care one bit about your interests or concerns?
How does this service compare to what was offered by Nextel, when it was still a going concern quite a few years back? I recall they made their brand identity their "direct connect" feature, which also was a push-to-talk function on their cell phones. I don't know if Nextel serviced Europe.
Nice as always dude, have you seen the motorcycle 'intercoms' mate I'm curious as to what they use as it states a 1.2k range. 👍
Are there alternative provider options to Global PTT that are not Chinese?
We have global ptt for work. Its pretty rad. Super reliable and clear. Theyre pretty awesome. Ours are all simcards.
How do you find people to speak to using Global PTT if you don't know anyone?
Thanks for the video, no dealers tell you that you can use a different sim card than Global Network.
So if there is no reception these don't work.
Just wondering how to switch out the sim card? If you put a new sim card in (for example a t-moble data card) can u just update the IMEI number on ur company platform page? Or do u have to notify global-ppt customer support with the new sim card info?
Are there public talk groups or ways to find existing groups to join? Ie connect with like minded hobbyist?
What is the best one
What are the monthly costs of this device?
Good vid global ptt similar to zello? And if poss do you have links for the handsets? I especially like the black one at rear
Looking forward to more vidz
No response yet I see…
is there a monthly fee?
Great 👍
Does it work in Europe?
How much is the platform subscription fee
Really wonder if you can modify the operating system and use my own global ppt service
You could put Zello on your phone for a free version of this.
Wait, didn't Nokia phones from back in the early 2000s have a similar feature built in?
All nice but where I live, these would end up in garbage. A lot of nearby villages don't have any GSM signal, or just barely 2G. People use dect phones to be reachable outside, or walkie talkies. 20 min from my town, not even one of national mobile providers have reach. Landlines + dect + pmr are needed.
what is the web address for Global PTT managment and how do I get a login to it?
Real-PTT vs Zello
Only ever used Zello myself
Can you send an email from one device to another?
Reminds me of the Nextel phones in what they did
I still can't think of a case where these would make sense other than for fun.
So we use them for equipment setup where sometimes we need to work with people in the office back home. Home could be another state, or country. We use them to have quick discussions where a text won’t work but a phone call is inconvenient
I worked for a law enforcement agency that used PTT due to terrain issues and it being cheaper than a network of repeaters. Works great. No pro lem understanding dispatchers mumbling addresses.
While the vid says " low latency " I wonder if it is low enough to use the radios in a critical setting like a crane + spotter operation .
With good network signal strength there’s milliseconds in it really
@@RingwayManchester Thanks. I've tested cell to land line and there is a bit of a delay. However, this is cell phone to tower to land line connection to land line phone where the PTT would be PTT to tower to PTT if in the same cell.
Being safety critical you should only use two-way radios designed for professional use and on frequencies allocated for crane operations. The site safety officer would refuse to issue a permit for work, and your insurance would be void. The latency will be less than the crane operators response time, unless the network is overloaded, which is outside your control.
I need help! I just got the Linux wurui global ptt walkie talkies and I don't know how to connect them or anything. I've been trying to figure out how to use them for roughly an hour now andi don't know how to use them
RTFM
Well I was full on light to and convinced that you could just use them right out of the box out of the box now I can't even get them to communicate with each other the user manual dead name and show you how to do anything with them I'm about to take a f****** Hammer to it
What does "my platform account came free with my device mean"
Well what do you think it means?
@@RingwayManchester it may be clear to you because you know the subject matter, but I have not a clue. Does it mean you get a paid SIM?
So it's push to talk communication over the internet that you access via a sim card?
Exactly
@@RingwayManchester awesome, thanks for teaching!
I still don't get it.
What don’t you get?
I can never see any links in the description for these things
@@therowans1748 Same Same - I often never see links, that the video producer says will be put in the description. I wonder if UA-cam deletes them if they are not links to products that also buy Google advertising?
Verizon had a PTT Cellular back in 1996.
Nextel had it too but in the early 2000s
@@playipstreamsolutions5538
Yes I remember Nextel now that you mention it and in fact I believe Nextel had it first. Verizon came later, I must have had the date off. I owned a granite company with 6 employees and had Verizon’s PTT, which thinking about it, I believe it was advertised as Verizon on the Nextel network, so Verizon was contracting off Nextel. It was fairly good service but had issues of practicality in my companies case due to machines running we could not hear the call beep on the device. Those cell phones at that time did not have a vibration alert function, so with the shop machines running my guys could not hear the incoming PTT call beep alert, so I had to use a regular cell phone function and leave a VM and they would get back to me. Now, if someone had a delivery company and needed to communicate with their drivers, it was perfect.
We already had nextel and boost mobile which i loved and miss alot and i thought was way better because it was a phone and ptt but they got rid of that for some reason