Montaigne, On Friendship: Ellie Anderson and David Peña-Guzmán

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  • Dr. Ellie Anderson and Dr. David Peña-Guzmán, philosophy professors and co-hosts of Overthink podcast, discuss Michel de Montaigne’s famous essay, “On Friendship”. Ellie and David give some context for the text through Montaigne's friendship with Étienne de la Boétie and how la Boétie's death shaped Montaigne’s creation of the essay form. They attempt to answer some questions that arise from the text: do love and friendship require or follow reason? Can one be platonically polyamorous-have more than one true friend? How does Montaigne’s theory of friendship diverge from Aristotle’s, and how does it form a critique of universalism in ancient philosophy more broadly?
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  • @Dino_Medici
    @Dino_Medici 4 місяці тому +23

    Green suit for the win

  • @bourdieufan7433
    @bourdieufan7433 4 місяці тому +7

    the coolest philosophers in the game

  • @rhiyabhattacharyya880
    @rhiyabhattacharyya880 4 місяці тому +4

    I honestly love your discussion sessions. They are sooo wholesome. Please keep them coming ❤

  • @DemetriosKongas
    @DemetriosKongas 4 місяці тому +8

    I think that the friendship between Marx and Engels was exemplary in terms of mutual admiration and intellectual cooperation. They were also ‘comrades-in-arms’ for a society of justice and equality. In their friendship, it is true that Engels supported Marx and his family financially, without which he would probably not be able to write his magna opera.

  • @tjberrian
    @tjberrian 4 місяці тому

    The commitment to not being self-contradictory is just *chef’s kiss*. Love the vibes.

  • @robertalenrichter
    @robertalenrichter 4 місяці тому +2

    Another interesting conversation. I've heard and read about Montaigne in French media over the years, but had no idea about this extreme conception of friendship. However, I also believe that there is a hidden meaning or purpose in life, so that was his experience. Can't even imagine being fused with someone, and who wants to feel like "half a person" afterwards?

  • @MandyMoorehol
    @MandyMoorehol 4 місяці тому +2

    Montaigne’s essay On Smells inspired my book lol

  • @Jay_The_Cat
    @Jay_The_Cat 4 місяці тому +2

    Dr. Ellie! 🧠🧠🧠💪💪💪
    Dr. David! 🧠🧠🧠💅💅💅

  • @stephanesigouin2049
    @stephanesigouin2049 4 місяці тому +2

    Très intéressant. Vous êtes mes amis imparfaits préférés.

  • @sierramaestra4998
    @sierramaestra4998 4 місяці тому

    I was looking to buy penguin great ideas of "on friendship". Thanks this is a great overview before I read it

  • @jessukawska5245
    @jessukawska5245 4 місяці тому +2

    I read a French blog about their relationship; honestly felt like a wattpad fanfiction... all the citations were suggesting one thing. Also I honestly recommend you to check on Virginia Woolf's essay Montaigne published in The Common Reader. I wrote a piece on their essayistic style of writing and similarity regarding defining what obstacles a person creating an honest essay is finding.

    • @Verulam1626
      @Verulam1626 Місяць тому

      Hi. I would love to read your piece. Can you send it via email, or?

  • @manuelfcasas3472
    @manuelfcasas3472 4 місяці тому

    Montaigne's ideas are always worth pondering about. It would be interesting to compare, in Montaigne's view, friendship and love and how one influences, encourages or hinders the other. They are two feelings which boundaries are frequently tricky to establish with precision.

    • @hellebartelsen8208
      @hellebartelsen8208 4 місяці тому

      By "love" do you mean romantic love or Eros? Because friendship is also love.

  • @wildukind442
    @wildukind442 4 місяці тому +1

    Friendship will be the last family in the dying West - Oswald Spengler

  • @firesalamander4795
    @firesalamander4795 4 місяці тому +1

    Woo the nails 💅

  • @priapsus
    @priapsus 4 місяці тому +2

    I have had one friend (who, sadly, also died young) in my life, like de La Boetie. There was nothing sexual about it, so none of this sounds strange to my ears and, unless there is some historical evidence to the contrary, one needn't jump to the conclusion that there was something "sexual" between Montaigne and de La Boetie. Having read the essay, I am even less inclined to believe so.

  • @bobcabot
    @bobcabot 4 місяці тому

    plz read Lindemann´s essay " Was ich liebe..."

  • @emmakorb5990
    @emmakorb5990 2 місяці тому

    Ellie is so Drew Barrymore coded

  • @adriangee4272
    @adriangee4272 4 місяці тому

    Marissa G Franco's Platonic is a great modern book on platonic relationships.

  • @christiansmith-of7dt
    @christiansmith-of7dt 4 місяці тому +1

    You are better people than me , now you owe me money

  • @mikeycham3643
    @mikeycham3643 4 місяці тому +1

    I get why folks think you're dating. Watching y'all figure shit out together, is adorable.

    • @brenkelly8163
      @brenkelly8163 4 місяці тому

      I’m certain attacking the people means you listened to nothing on the subject.

    • @Gemelli_ar
      @Gemelli_ar Місяць тому

      That's all you got out this video? Smh

  • @MrJamesdryable
    @MrJamesdryable 4 місяці тому

    I am not a rapper.

  • @crackedcoco
    @crackedcoco 4 місяці тому

    Guys, I love your videos. Can you please please please color grade your vids? Your color profile is very very flat.

  • @brenkelly8163
    @brenkelly8163 4 місяці тому

    Incredible to know that essay was created in the 1500s in France. Socrates had been dead for 1800 years, and there was absolutely no tradition carried on between his death and 1200. There was just a massive frozen wasteland to the north of the Greeks who wouldn’t go up there because it was full of “pink barbarians.”So how was this “tradition” transmitted generation after generation when everyone was illiterate? How Western is Western Civilization when the uncivilized Anglo illiterate pink barbarians invaded the Celtic aisles starting 450 AD, killing the Celts who were learning to read and being Christianized. Look, I don’t care if the French, British and Germans stole Greek ideas 1,800 after they died, but anyone could have stolen them.

  • @Fernando-du5dq
    @Fernando-du5dq 3 місяці тому

    They searching the quotes are a masterpiece 🫶🏽 really good see thoughts in moviment