I find it ironic that, for Cage's intention of having the background noise as "music", the audience kept their silence incredibly well here, but take any other performances of traditional music, where silence is much needed, and we often hear people trying to physically cough up their lungs.
I was noticing the same, almost no coughs here. I thought -either this is a selected audience, or people do wait until music is being played to, as you said, cough up their lungs lol.
“It was after I got to Boston that I went into the anechoic chamber at Harvard University. Anybody who knows me knows this story. I am constantly telling it. Anyway, in that silent room, I heard two sounds, one high and one low. Afterward I asked the engineer in charge why, if the room was so silent, I had heard two sounds. He said, “Describe them.” I did. He said, “The high one was your nervous system in operation. The low one was your blood in circulation." Until I die there will be sounds. And they will continue following my death. One need not fear about the future of music. John Cage, from the essay "Experimental Music" (published in SILENCE - Lectures and Writings by John Cage, WESLEYAN UNIVERSITY PRESS)
Se consigue a base de tocarla en ensayos muchas veces. Trifonov habrá ensayado esta pieza cientos de veces antes de atreverse a interpretarla en público.
He was performing this "Cage 4'33 " after a very emotional Concert. Sound of intense Music still in my hole Beeing, and then ,instead of rushing Out of the Concerto Hall to the Noise of the Street this Silence - giving some Time to let the Music in yourself finish. Daniil trifonov has the Courrage to perform this - he is a real Genius ! 🌹
A lot of people are probably unaware that this piece officially has three movements and it’s for any combination of instruments. Peters edition sells the score for almost $13!!!!! That’s perhaps the funniest part. Who would pay to have this in their library? It’s free online, too, in the original manuscript of the composer. Say what you will, this was composed in 1952, and is perhaps the most often discussed work from that year. How many composers can say they garnered this much attention? Every conservatory student learns “about” the piece, and therefore it’s indisputable that John Cage scored a success with it. It might surprise people that Cage wasn’t the first to think of this. Wikipedia lists six examples of works predating it which do the same thing. They date back to 1892! Erwin Schulhoff’s “In futurum” is a silent movement from a suite of pieces and is written entirely with rests. I’ve always wondered how effective it might be as an encore, and without announcing it in advance. Could the audience tell the difference between Cage and Schulhoff?
In fact, one could notice the difference between Cage's and Schulhoff's work because the hand crossing in the later, and Cage's one uses a metronome, Schulhoff one doesn't
the initial version had 3 movements but Cage later withdrew it and made another score, that has no devisions. apart from that, the piece wouldn't be discussed so often if there wasn't a consistent philosophy coming along with it, which Cage summed up with the term non-intentionality, a concept that he elaborated in all of his works ever since.
I don't know, but the score for that movement of Schuloff's "In Futurum" is pretty funny. It was clearly meant to be musical irony since it's pretty heavily notated despite being all rests where nothing is obviously being played. Cage was very serious about the prospects of the silence and the "zen" nature of it all. So, while the audience may not notice a difference in the silence itself, I think that the way in which the performer presents each piece/movement would give a clue.
This brought tears to my eyes! Trifonov has the most beautiful touch! The voicing was absolutely perfect! Nobody plays the masterpiece better than him! Just imagine the hours of harf practice he put into learn this so flawlessly! Its jaw dropping! This is a video that will go down in history that inspires generations to come, such as Zimmerman playing chopin ballades, Yucham lim rach 3, etc! It brings tears to my eyes! Just think, we just witnessed something out of the world, full of emotion, this is going to go down in history! I wish i could play this piece as good as he, only in my dreams though, id have to practice this piece for 40 hours a day to get it at the level he has it!👍👁👄👁👌
everybody talks about his performance and how good he was here, but did anyone know he's a great doctor too? he helped my entire town get vaccinated. such a passionate and caring guy, respect!
ive never heard such amazing musicality in such a complicated piece like this. It can be really difficult to pull off with all the technical difficulty in both the right and left hands
Sooo correct! The audience usually is unaware of the complex timing and synchronization of hands and intense controlling of emotions, subtle dynamics, unwelcome noises, registers and expression while still brilliantly elucidating the fundamental structure with childlike effortlessness. Audiences are sooo ignorant, Sheesh!
Most people miss the point. It takes courage to perform this piece and maintain composure against the traditional expectation of concert performance. If a non musical person performed this, nobody would come and listen to them. While there is silence, people can still go through all kinds of emotions and go on their own journey, conditioned by their previous experiences of attending concerts and what they feel at a given moment. Similarly, it takes nerves for a composer to publish such a piece. Make that bold of a statement of enhancing silence to a work of art. Now it’s been done, it cannot be repeated. If somebody writes 6’ 27” of silence, nobody will care because it’s been done before. Like zen, people are taken off guard, they don’t know if it’s a joke or if it should be taken seriously. Well, it is neither.
This is the best version I have seen on the internet. His personality really shines through the piece. There are a few wrong notes here but it becomes pretty unnecessary in comparison to his musicality
In all respect, I truly respect the audience for taking this as a “performance.” After all, this should be one of the “easiest performances” for Tronov
ok i'm really asking so many questions, do the pianist really understand and respect this "silent" music? why this piece? is this meant to be a joke or serious? whats the point for all of this? why did they even decided to choose THIS? are all of the people in the audience take this seriously?
Cage shows us that there is no total silence. Even you if you hear it in your house you hear noises of the street, neighbours etc. Also, as Gustav Mahler said, “music is something between the notes”. Cage just extends that “between”
In a nutshell: John Cage is the greatest musical fraud of the 20th century. He was just an inventor if things that gained fame out of his controversial "pieces" and then came a lot of academics that hailed him as some kind of musical guru everyone should study at music colleges. He's just a reflection of how low academia has sunk.
The idea of this piece is that the audience is supposed to be the performer. So, why doesn't someone just scream? Why is everyone dead silent where it isn't needed, and very loud where it is needed lol.
I wish he had done the three movements outlined in the score. It makes the piece much more effective and allows the audience to react better.T he movements are separated by closing then opening the fall board. Visually quite effective.
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He still managed to swet
is he always sweating?
:D :D :D I spat out my coffee.....
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@felixp7 He was born sweaty already.
=)))
I find it ironic that, for Cage's intention of having the background noise as "music", the audience kept their silence incredibly well here, but take any other performances of traditional music, where silence is much needed, and we often hear people trying to physically cough up their lungs.
I was noticing the same, almost no coughs here. I thought -either this is a selected audience, or people do wait until music is being played to, as you said, cough up their lungs lol.
i think the recording is made such that you cant' really hear them well. Try to raise the volume
“It was after I got to Boston that I went into the anechoic chamber at Harvard University. Anybody who knows me knows this story. I am constantly telling it. Anyway, in that silent room, I heard two sounds, one high and one low. Afterward I asked the engineer in charge why, if the room was so silent, I had heard two sounds. He said, “Describe them.” I did. He said, “The high one was your nervous system in operation. The low one was your blood in circulation." Until I die there will be sounds. And they will continue following my death. One need not fear about the future of music.
John Cage, from the essay "Experimental Music" (published in SILENCE - Lectures and Writings by John Cage, WESLEYAN UNIVERSITY PRESS)
@@null8295 I think not, because the few that are heard are heard rather prominently.
According to Cage, real silence does not exit. You just have to listen more carefully.
its astonishing how pianists can memorize such pieces
Se consigue a base de tocarla en ensayos muchas veces. Trifonov habrá ensayado esta pieza cientos de veces antes de atreverse a interpretarla en público.
😂ha
@@manueljoseblancamolinos8582 ha😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Ahhaaha
I’ve never heard it played any better.
Or any worse
He did all the repeats, too! It actually officially has three movements marked in the score,
is it true? 😅
@@lmichaelgreenjr nice composing lol
I have never heard it. Stop😏
Finally, a piece I can play as well as Trifonov
My god. Dr mw
....
😂
Trust me, I heard many performances and no one comes close to Trifonov
But can you make it sound like that? 😂😂
@@KaisarAnvar I think the point is can you attract as many audiences like that? 😂
I loved the 3rd movement: Allegro silencioso.
Didn't play any wrong note, amazing!
Didn't play any right note, amazing!
@@legendarylightning676 copycat
@@pianoecho3032 i didn't copy on purpose, unless if ur talking about the original comment
@@legendarylightning676 oops, sorry 😊
lmao
Damn, he even arranged it for piano! Respect!
I will ask my family to play it in my funeral! So peaceful!
He was performing this
"Cage 4'33 " after a very emotional Concert. Sound
of intense Music still in
my hole Beeing, and
then ,instead of rushing Out of the Concerto Hall to the Noise of the Street
this Silence - giving some Time to let the Music in yourself finish.
Daniil trifonov has the Courrage to perform this - he is a real Genius ! 🌹
For anyone who wants to see the sheet music, I've posted it below.
Have a nice day.
Gonna get sued to hell for copyright
Is there an edition with fingering?
But you missed posting the page with the instructions! They are vital for an authentic performance of this piece in 3 movements.
I like the camera angles. They really capture the essence of the piece ;^)
A lot of people are probably unaware that this piece officially has three movements and it’s for any combination of instruments. Peters edition sells the score for almost $13!!!!! That’s perhaps the funniest part. Who would pay to have this in their library? It’s free online, too, in the original manuscript of the composer.
Say what you will, this was composed in 1952, and is perhaps the most often discussed work from that year. How many composers can say they garnered this much attention? Every conservatory student learns “about” the piece, and therefore it’s indisputable that John Cage scored a success with it. It might surprise people that Cage wasn’t the first to think of this. Wikipedia lists six examples of works predating it which do the same thing. They date back to 1892! Erwin Schulhoff’s “In futurum” is a silent movement from a suite of pieces and is written entirely with rests. I’ve always wondered how effective it might be as an encore, and without announcing it in advance. Could the audience tell the difference between Cage and Schulhoff?
In fact, one could notice the difference between Cage's and Schulhoff's work because the hand crossing in the later, and Cage's one uses a metronome, Schulhoff one doesn't
@@alejandrom.4680 great info. Thanks for sharing!
the initial version had 3 movements but Cage later withdrew it and made another score, that has no devisions. apart from that, the piece wouldn't be discussed so often if there wasn't a consistent philosophy coming along with it, which Cage summed up with the term non-intentionality, a concept that he elaborated in all of his works ever since.
@@nikolausgerszewski2086 thank you, Nikolaus. I didn’t know this.
I don't know, but the score for that movement of Schuloff's "In Futurum" is pretty funny. It was clearly meant to be musical irony since it's pretty heavily notated despite being all rests where nothing is obviously being played. Cage was very serious about the prospects of the silence and the "zen" nature of it all. So, while the audience may not notice a difference in the silence itself, I think that the way in which the performer presents each piece/movement would give a clue.
EVERYTHING IS SO DRAMATIC WITH TRIFONOV😭😭😭 EVEN HIM PAINFULLY STARING AT THE CLOCK IS INTENSE😭😭
Je ne comprends pas😰
This brought tears to my eyes! Trifonov has the most beautiful touch! The voicing was absolutely perfect! Nobody plays the masterpiece better than him! Just imagine the hours of harf practice he put into learn this so flawlessly! Its jaw dropping! This is a video that will go down in history that inspires generations to come, such as Zimmerman playing chopin ballades, Yucham lim rach 3, etc! It brings tears to my eyes! Just think, we just witnessed something out of the world, full of emotion, this is going to go down in history! I wish i could play this piece as good as he, only in my dreams though, id have to practice this piece for 40 hours a day to get it at the level he has it!👍👁👄👁👌
Lmfao very accurate
Как много в этом звуке,для сердца русского слилось,как много в нём отозвалось........
4:41 well deserved applause
My favorite Cage piece. Babayan said Trifonov learned this piece faster than any of his other students.
The music that continues after we all die.
The silence you experience in this clip you cant have the same in whole universe
I’m going to have to try to work this one out by ear tonight
I think he rushed a little bit. Started at 0:15 and ended at 4:43. He performed the version Cage 4'28.
Exactly.. if the only indicated parameter is time bound, ignoring it a bit wtf?
That's Trifonov personal rendition of the piece, his personal touch. Xddd
This was an immense gift of silence. It’s precious 💖
I am in awe
Only Trifonov can do that
this was pure unmatched talent
everybody talks about his performance and how good he was here, but did anyone know he's a great doctor too? he helped my entire town get vaccinated. such a passionate and caring guy, respect!
?
and how is this make him a doctor?
I love him
ive never heard such amazing musicality in such a complicated piece like this. It can be really difficult to pull off with all the technical difficulty in both the right and left hands
Sooo correct! The audience usually is unaware of the complex timing and synchronization of hands and intense controlling of emotions, subtle dynamics, unwelcome noises, registers and expression while still brilliantly elucidating the fundamental structure with childlike effortlessness. Audiences are sooo ignorant, Sheesh!
I was at a performance of it once where an old man began singing Amazing Grace, and the audience joined in! It was great.
Yes! I was wondering why audience would not try to make interesting sounds or sing… because “audience sounds” are the purpose of the piece.
Можно успеть , за почти 5 минут , обдумать и будущие Программы и ...всю жизнь прошлую!😮
2:35 it’s so epic
Most people miss the point. It takes courage to perform this piece and maintain composure against the traditional expectation of concert performance. If a non musical person performed this, nobody would come and listen to them. While there is silence, people can still go through all kinds of emotions and go on their own journey, conditioned by their previous experiences of attending concerts and what they feel at a given moment.
Similarly, it takes nerves for a composer to publish such a piece. Make that bold of a statement of enhancing silence to a work of art. Now it’s been done, it cannot be repeated. If somebody writes 6’ 27” of silence, nobody will care because it’s been done before. Like zen, people are taken off guard, they don’t know if it’s a joke or if it should be taken seriously. Well, it is neither.
You’re clearly high on your own farts.
Never a wrong note!
Perfect tempo
This is the best version I have seen on the internet. His personality really shines through the piece. There are a few wrong notes here but it becomes pretty unnecessary in comparison to his musicality
I love how Trifonov is trying so hard not to laugh 😂😂😂
No Problem for him. He is still immersed in the Music He played bevor.
That last piece by Cage must have been his "encore"!
it's better than 99% of the music ever written
Love this piece so much!💕
John Cage would, I imagine, truly appreciate and love the good-natured humour of the comments here. Splendid.
"See the music, hear the dance."~ George Balanchine choreographer NYC Ballet
Rare footage of Trifonov not sweating
Bravo 👏 I’ve never heard anybody playing like that 🎹😌🙏🎶
comments should be turned off.
One of the best 4 minutes of my life
All from memory. Amazing. Think about the amount of practice this took.
Stravinsky said this was Cage’s finest work so far.
Having listened to a few other of Cage’s work, I’ll have to agree!
I am practicing this, but it always takes me 5 minutes… But I am working with a metronome to try to get it down to 4 1/2 minutes
The pageantry.
The artistry.
The camerawork.
The rush to get out the door.
This is my desert-island piece.
He’s so good I bet he can play it backwards with his eyes closed. BRAVO!!!!
I love how serious he looks anyway
I was in the mood of a nice prelude, that hits de spot.
Mozart: "The music is not in the notes, but in the silence between"
John Cage: OK gotcha fam
Alexander Scriabin: "Silence is sound, too. There will be musical works possible made completely of silence"....
Debussy said that, not Mozart
teacher: what do you want to work on next?
me:
Is this a meme among pianists or do they really think „oh hell yeah this is something my audience would pay for!!“
Of course meme
Идеально для вступительных экзаменов по музыке
Beautiful play
This is the music some minutes befor the Big Bang, very cosmic music!
Now I know what to do if I forget the sheet music during the exam. 👍
I have this on vinyl! It’s a great listen
It's the Great Actors "playing"! BravoDaniil--хорошее чувство юмора и .... профессорские очки!!!😂❤❤❤❤❤
The first time I see him with a good posture
Hahaha
In all respect, I truly respect the audience for taking this as a “performance.” After all, this should be one of the “easiest performances” for Tronov
i bet it was for him his most difficult :)
Finally a piece that I can play too
Good job Mr. Potter!
I think that he should close the lid to begin the performance. I went to a performance of this by a short-sighted pianist. It lasted over 4 hours.
Ideal para conciliar el sueño, sobre todo el segundo movimiento.
ok i'm really asking so many questions, do the pianist really understand and respect this "silent" music? why this piece? is this meant to be a joke or serious? whats the point for all of this? why did they even decided to choose THIS? are all of the people in the audience take this seriously?
Cage shows us that there is no total silence. Even you if you hear it in your house you hear noises of the street, neighbours etc.
Also, as Gustav Mahler said, “music is something between the notes”. Cage just extends that “between”
In a nutshell: John Cage is the greatest musical fraud of the 20th century. He was just an inventor if things that gained fame out of his controversial "pieces" and then came a lot of academics that hailed him as some kind of musical guru everyone should study at music colleges. He's just a reflection of how low academia has sunk.
@@polina5918 I thought it was Debussy who said that?
@@lupistv3919 I guess art is not supposed to me defined
@@lupistv3919 thank you for pointing something so obvious but that so many seem to miss
Valentina Lisitsa perform it in 3'47"
Yuja Wang in 3'22"
Martha Argerich in 2'39"
Claudio Arrau in 7'21"
He just sat with them without playing anything, that. It's worth a lot.
Do you wanna get some coffee sometime?
Her:
Believe it or not he learned the piece one hour before.
4:57- the old lady be like- when you come to watch some liszt and u get 4 1/2 minutes of silence for nothing
I have this one on my Spotify favorites list!
Well done. Should be the mandatory piece of every piano competition 🤣
This was almost as good as the private performance I attended by Lola Astanova!
Such passion !
Astonishing interpretation
Гениально
Who tuned the piano?
It's a meditation on silence.
I have never appreciated my perfect pitch more than today
The idea of this piece is that the audience is supposed to be the performer. So, why doesn't someone just scream? Why is everyone dead silent where it isn't needed, and very loud where it is needed lol.
No lo puedo creer, qué onda Trifonov jajajaj
Suonato benissimo, complimenti!
The Black Square of music
stupendo.... interpretazione impeccabile : )
I wish he had done the three movements outlined in the score. It makes the piece much more effective and allows the audience to react better.T he movements are separated by closing then opening the fall board. Visually quite effective.
I performed this piece on Facebook a couple of years back. Unfortunately I bottled it around the 2 minute mark and lashed out with stray C# !
incredible
I am thinking of composing variations on this theme...
Music Is the silente beetween the notes
I would be pissed if this was the encore that I got.
He practiced this piece for 40h everyday
He performed it many times at the same time
Pour qui sait lire musique et silence en disent autant , pour qui sait lire bien sur …
His tempo is absolutely spot-on 😄
Can someone pls do a 10 hr version?
I made a transcription for guitar!