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Spot on! A mathematician, a physicist, and an engineer were all given a red rubber ball and told to find the volume. The mathematician carefully measured the diameter and evaluated a triple integral. The physicist filled a beaker with water, put the ball in the water, and measured the total displacement. The engineer looked up the model and serial numbers in his red-rubber-ball table.
I know I am like 8+7 what's that? Its 16 but that's 8*2 ok so it must be one less than 16 then 15 fuck i must be wrong, checks with the calculator. Ah I was right, proceeds to write 8 as answer.
"The optimist says the glass is half full, the pessimist says the glass is half empty. The engineer says the glass is twice as big as it needs to be." Best. quote. ever.
Being an engineering student I can confirm that "if I got 8/10 in this question then I can make up some BS to get 2/10 in another question and I'll be golden" is basically our holy mantra
There is no better feeling than answering half of the exam and getting the exact grade you were aiming for. For me it’s the equivalent of getting an A.
@@albertcoll9 i did that through most my academic career, tried being a minimalist but it kept ramping up, real early too, 4th grade, i now regret it as i somehow just did not fail for 4 years with straight A, i managed to be doing college prep by 8th grade as i had completed my requirements for highschool and still hadnt taken a step in one. now what did i do with these, play the silver market, accidentally predict us response to the covid with schools in February 2020 on a friday and it happens by mondays closings, and generally keep saying stuff with seemingly half the detail and getting it right on predictions.
This shit hit home. At one point I spent like hours creating this incredibly rich and complicated excel spreadsheet that calculated my optimistic and realstic grades on the basis of the assignments I have submited in a given time in regards to the whole year. I was supposed to be studying for an exam at that point, but I went "nah, lemme just create this monstrosity of a spreadsheet"
I never did the spreadsheets but I ran loads of "quick" calcs. My friends' brains exploded when I said, "I'm not studying for that exam. I'd need a 26.5% to drop to a C and a 106% to get an A. Soooo, I'm getting a B in this class."
Same. Every semester I add all the assignments/ tests etc for each course and change projected to actual as they get graded. For whatever reason its helped me stay focused.
2:55 I feel called out. This is exactly what I’ve been doing back since 5th grade, but instead of passing I go for the lowest possible A. I didn’t even know I wanted to go into engineering until middle of high school
@@ajsap8160 Sounds stupid but same story for me. I only thought of studying maths or physics as the options. Will probably study engineering in grad school.
@@Chrisratata That was ultimately the conclusion my physics professor gave me, that it was more about learning to think through and understand how to solve problems more than committing any particular equations to memory, but I would argue that the process of learning itself is greatly improved by knowing what the equations are supposed to do. When you have some idea how the answer is supposed to look, you can get to it more readily (for better or worse).
@@NotHPotter agreed but the bulk of my point is that what you end up doing for a living is almost certainly not going to directly make use of every single thing you learn in school, and most importantly, many of the problems you solve in the real world will be so unique to your projects and unprecedented that you'll have to analyze how to somewhat derive new methods anyway. But again, I agree with you. Knowing applications as you learn helps the material stick...I think one of my main issue are the people that use not knowing a concept's purpose as an excuse to not try. The exercise is still incredibly beneficial towards the development of your analytical skills, no matter what you go on to do.
@@Chrisratata For sure, and that's why I caveated my comment with "for better or worse". On the one hand, I realize that many solutions will require finding an answer that is hard to anticipate (often), so knowing how the answer should look isn't entirely realistic, but at the same time the "take this test in a vacuum" approach is also completely artificial, as the best problem solvers are often the ones who know how to best seek out help and make use of available resources. Admittedly, at this point we're discussing some of the more complicated aspects of education as a whole, but it doesn't change the fact that I spent the better part of the last few months begging (along with another few people in my class) my linear algebra instructor to give us some kind of context for the eigen-nonsense and matrix multiplication he kept making us do. Go figure, this channel dropped a video about what it all means a day after the final.
Absolutely. Getting a B.S. in any engineering discipline requires prioritizing classes based on difficulty vs. the credit hours of the particular class. Always was a juggling act.
"I'm at the hardest part of Calc 2... the part where you have to calculate what you need on the final to still pass" The one good thing about corona - it wiped out the real calc 2 final and we got a multiple choice take home test instead. I'll be grateful right up until my next math class
I posted this in a diff comment but to sum up a story my calculations should me barely passing, if I did at all, and then when the grade was posted it was an A.
@@ClaudiusJovianus its more like how many beers can i drink and still pass the course. The funny thing is that if u have already passed, that number can be as big as you want it to be.
I am blown away at how generic the experience of studying engineering is. I finished studying almost a decade ago and I still remember at the beginning of every exam going through the whole thing, choosing the questions that I felt confident answering, and doing a quick marks calculation to see how to maximize the points/time ratio. Then getting stuck with one question halfway through, switching to a different one, restarting the question at a later stage.
I repeated that sentence word for word on my exam on how my professor had stated in the lecture notes that the solution was 'trivial'. Professor didn't like it but because that's what he wrote in his own lecture notes, he still game me the point lol.
@@AbhilekhPandey The professor didn’t like it because that is for actual mathematicians and you as an engineer, how could you dare to think that you could respond like that? Yet s/he is required to teach you, who is ignoring about all of that nuance in mathematics because of how the education system works. I’m not trying to be mean. I am mathematician by education. So providing an alternative viewpoint of hull think might be giving a little bit of a humorous edge. (Even though these days I am scientist and work with a lot of engineers.)
@@rickycook1539 You can use either 3.14 or 22/7. It just depends on the usability. Generally, 3.14 is used for all numbers, except for multiples of 7 which uses 22/7. Anyways, that's what I was taught in school.
2:45 after getting my degree, this is so spot on. I had a friend, don’t know how he graduated, but the most effort I had ever seen him put into something was this really well made spreadsheet to see how poorly he could do on the final to pass the class and walk at graduation. The final was only a couple days away and he hadn’t even started reviewing material.
Him: "Why the hell- does everyone look like they know what they're doing?" Me: Don't mind me I'm just writing my name slowly pretending I'm not a left out.
My math classes always hated me, son of an engineer and an accountant...math is in my blood as is efficient use of time. I'd sleep in class, do no homework, ace the tests without studying completely destroying the curve for everyone else on the tests. Calculus and advanced calc included. Fun times.
Is no one going to mention that with zero effort he will maximize his grade-effort ratio by dividing by zero? (assume there will be curve on the test which is greater than zero, and that we working in the projective real line where division by zero is well defined thus making the ratio infinite)
@@Auden. Yeah, I think he meant "what topics should I study/focus on first in order to get the most out of my study time while also getting at least a minimum grade" or something
Surprisingly accurate. I hated proofs. I debated being a math major, but once I took proofs I knew I made the right call going into engineering. I actually spent more time asking my engineering professors for applications since very few of my EE professors gave them. I remember my controls classes were particularly bad about that. My methods class was even worse about it. I struggled a lot in those classes for that reason.
@@DeathnoteBB Engineering school requires math. Calculus, and NO way around that. However, practical day-to-day engineering involves mabye 5% of the mat we ever learn.
I just want everyone to know that I am the 420th like. Relevant because with the power of weed suddenly accents become intelligible. Don't ask me why, it just happens.
@@Silent. he's 99% german. I'm from Germany and here we have this accent. I'm pretty sure. (It would also make sense, because he mentioned "is Proof a german word for..")
You know what's even worse than opening a test and not recognising anything. Recognising everything but not being quite able to get it. In thermodynamic this demoralised me so much I actually tried to calculate the heat absorbed by the system during an adiabatic process using the first law. When I succeeded and got a zero I gave myself the biggest facepalm of my life (thankfully I passed the test)
I had a persistent mental block with statics exactly like you just described. I still don’t understand why because it’s not a terribly complicated class. I guess I just found it much less intuitive than dynamic mechanics
My Calc II prof actually loved engineering and physics and was more than happy to discuss practicalities of mathematical models and their real world limitations. Awesome professor.
One day, two engineers were tasked with attaching wires to some poles. They thought to measure the height of all the poles and hence calculate the estimated total length of wire required by calculating the curves. They kept thinking for much time while standing below the pole but couldn't come up with a decent idea; they thought about measuring the angle, but the surrounding terrain was not smooth, they thought of using a ladder, but it couldn't be procured in the middle of nowhere, they thought of tying a stone to a rope and throwing it upwards, but realized that it would be very inaccurate. They were out of ideas. A mechanic happened to be passing by, and seeing the confused faces of those two engineers, he decided to help them. He enquired about the problem and promptly unscrewed the pole from the base, laid it down, measured it, and screwed it back. He told result to the engineers and bid them farewell. Engineer 1 : "What the hell did he just do?" Engineer 2 : "Yes, what an absolute fool! He had to calculate the *height* , not the *length* ."
Funny story, my differential equations professor was so awful that I gave up on the homework, got an average of 40% on the exams, and still curved up to an A.
One of the worst parts was trying to understand what the teacher was writing on the board for an hour only to realize it was a proof and we only need to know the equation he comes up with in the end
@@maruManU210 But it's very efficient. At this level (the level of math we did), if you don't understand the proofs, and even if you understand them but can't do them yourself, you can no longer follow this level of math. It goes hand in hand.
A video has never described my college life so well. Homework was extra credit for my calculus class. So i only ever touched the parts where I was confused, until i understood it, my papers would end up looking like some crazy person drawing scribbles. The Professor always bashed on the low test scores because of the correlation of no homework and low test scores (he showed an anonymous graph of the class test scores). Of course I was the one that always passed the test even though I turned in no HW. So there was always a stray dot in the graph. I was actually proud of myself for being such an under achievier.
Where the fuck did you go? My school has an overreliance on homework making it worth 30% of the final grade and christ it is the most tedious boring shit that makes me not want to do the math instead of helping me memorize it, even when I don't need to...
My fondest memories of first year math was giving up on the last question 5 minutes before the end of the exam and looking around the room at either 1) students crying 2) students flipping through blank pages
Was taking a strength of materials class, thought I was struggling, looked around and saw people with their heads down, crying etc, and I smiled…..curve is coming
I remember that during an statistics 2 exam a girl just started crying sitting right behind me. The teacher gave her water and took her out of the classroom. I think she was failing the class for the 2nd time. That was absolutely TERRIFYING, after that I aced that class and finished with the highest grade of the class for the first and last time as Any respectable engineer should.
Calc 2 was me and 10 other people in the class still "taking" (suffering) the final 2 hours after it was supposed to be over because the professor had a free period and let us keep going. I wanted to just drop dead so I could stop looking at the paper. At least it was obvious that everyone spending 3.5 hours on a 1.5 hour exam were all in the same boat.
I remember in my pure math courses, there was often some guy asking what the applications were. He filled me with the superiority and hubris I needed to succeed.
as someone who did math at uni, my favourite bit was when he tries to answer all remaining questions after the announcement that there's 30 seconds to go with one-word answers! xD
5:28 bro I do this sooo much lol. I always weigh the odds of my getting a good score just in case I don't feel like solving a problem. I overcomplicate things too much
Actually did the calculation at the end for every single class. Wondering my range for the final. For Calc 1 I needed a 97 to get an A, and told my prof ahead of time. Only got a 94 but he gave me the “97”. It does pay off.
@@lillyluna2449 Yeah if I did that, my profs would rather push the cutoff higher rather than bring it down. So in this case, even if I'd gotten 97, I'd just be told that the you now need 98 for an A and to go screw myself..
Dude last spring in a math class I calculated my grade every week and by the end of the semester I was looking at barely passing by a percent if my final grade was generous. So the semester ends and the proff doesnt post a grade for a month, I wrote an email to the omsbudsman asking wtf and then a few days later I had an A! Lol wtf
@@lillyluna2449 If you're a motivated student, they will try helping you with your goal a bit. See it like that, if the professor is motivated, he wants to reward your motivation and hard work and if the professor is unmotivated, he'll still help you because he just wants to be done with it and not have some nerds argue with him about a few %.
@@grandmastergyorogyoro532So true. It is funny as I used numbers more in my undergrad physics classes then in my undergrad and grad classes in math combined.
'Why the hell does everyone look like they know what they're doing?', that's painfully accurate. I just finished my first year and really need to step it up.
I have never taken a test without even knowing a single answer. But there was one time I went to a test not even knowing the chapter names, I hated the class, the professor and the material so much I ignored it all. It is a form of scarily dangerous freedom you feel sitting there in that room filled with sorrow, despair, effort, tension and determination while you are the only one that can be that free with no care in the world. I felt, alive.
2:47 -I am at the hardest part of Cal 2 and I can't figure this out. -Wich part? ( I thought he said ) -The part where you have to calculate. Honestly same.
@@Mac-hr9rg Calc 2 must be different at different colleges because every once in a while I hear someone say calc 2 was easy. That was the most difficult class I've ever taken in my life. Even people I know who aced it thought it was hard. I don't know how that class could be easy unless you somehow already had exposure to the material beforehand. I'm a CS major and my OOP class is like that. It's relatively easy compared to my other courses because I taught myself programming and OOP a little while back. Many people who've had zero exposure are really struggling. I think that's what the situation is like for calc 2, or it's just easier depending on your school.
@@Mac-hr9rg I'm telling you that you misinterpreted what I said. I'm the one who isn't bright when one of us can't interpret common english? That makes no sense. Then you're throwing ad hominems like a child. Bye.
I love Canvas because the grade distribution on every assignment lets you better calculate future effort requirements. The only problem is fully trusting the distributions prior to course drop date.
ok... so i'm doing a math major but honestly i can relate to the real world application part. many times i feel we're doing math for the sake of math and it can get really annoying
That calculation of trying to figure out the minimum scores you need to pass the course without being sure which of your projects, quizzes, or assignments the professor will actually count toward your grade. Hahahaha That's the where you become a true mathematician.
me, a true engineer: has a spreadsheet with all my formulas to maximize the grade to effort ratio according to class medians so that it’s calculated as the semester goes on,,,, ladies and gents i shit you not i have actually done this
When I went to Uni to study Engineering 30 years ago, we had this saying: *_"51% is 1% wasted effort."_* There was a huge effort required just to pass ... plus so many other classes with difficult material that the effort required to pass _everything_ was just exhausting. Getting more than a pass mark on one was a bad tradeoff if it meant failing something else ....
@@jmw1500 probably. All engineering math is calc 1,2, stats 2 and then there's a weird calc 3 The rest is application theory of things like how do fluids work, how does heat work, or if your a civil engineer sum forces =0
@@Vaiboooooo yup. All the resources available now makes it much easier to get better grades. Efforts for a 4.0 isn't worth it still though, much better to use that time for networking and doing engineering projects outside of class as it could possibly be considered as experience to recruiters
@@gregheffly I just graduated. I had Calc 1, Calc 2, Calc 3, Differential Equations, and Stats. It was the same classes as all mathematics majors take. No special engineering math classes.
Too many of us probably did this. I personally spread the effort over all the assignments and tried to make my tests as irrelevant as possible. For me that spreads the effort most effectively across the whole course with the added benefit of lower mental stress at the most critical times.
I had a calculus professor my freshman year who had three test the entire year. The first test (that was the day after the drop date) was 3 questions and if you didn’t know everything in the first half of the class you missed all of the questions. Out of a class of 85 people 1 person got a 67, 4 people got a 33 and everyone else got a 0. 3 people passed the course. The professor did not weight the grades at all. The next semester I retook the course and got an A. Still sets me mad every time I think about it. It’s been 20 years.
I was a physics major in the 90's (now a professor for 20+ years). My proof of the formula is that it's in the textbook. I barely survived Diff Eq; but then it all came together and made perfect sense when applying it in physics class.
@@sneezygibz6403 use your computer programs to learn math. Make an array in the console, boom, you have a cartesian plane. Int x = 100; Public static int[ ] ValuesForX = new int[ x ]; For( int I =0; I < x.length; i++) [arrayInConsole[x].backColor = system.drawing.color.green; ]
@Kalenz Some of that math will come really useful with computers and programming. Unfortunately, universities typically don't teach maths in ways that shows you how things are useful in the real world... (too much theory, not enough application) Usefulness of many theories I just realized years after university.
@@sc00f When it comes to computer engineering high school math is almost enough. I don't need to be able to do proofs. No one will ever hire an engineer to do proofs. A mathematician might hire me to program a 3d graph to show his proof but not figure the proof itself out. Just one example.
@Kalenz Being able to prove something formally may come handy when you can't just brute-force a solution, maybe because it's not computationally feasible or some other reason. So for example you can make a formal proof that your program is always correct, and your customer will be more satisfied. Being able to prove that your program is correct, or prove that X always leads to Y, can be really useful sometimes. There are actual real-life situations when you need formal proofs for your programs, especially when program error may lead to death or serious damage: medical industry, aerospace, flight control, etc. In those fields, programs *do* need formal proofs of correctness... You can't just use a beta test version software to control an aeroplane... People might die as a result. Of course if you find a job in a different field, you may never need that, but the fact that you are *able* to think formally and prove something, *is* actually useful sometimes, even in programming.
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That’s a dub
I just started crying, because i had to laugh so much. I have an exam in 2.5h about state and parameter estimation, and i feel like that guy.
I did not realize pi2=g
Wow. I didn't realize that it's actually a pretty good approximation!
Also important: pi is a unit-less quantity, whereas g has units m/s^^2 . Don’t forget the units.
When he says "can you repeat everything you said in the past 8 weeks I didn't catch that" I felt that
IKR
Me everyday
And so the professor repeats 8 weeks of study verbatim. Now you *must* understand it, right?
@@mpldr_ HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
no
Study guide time
Spot on!
A mathematician, a physicist, and an engineer were all given a red rubber ball and told to find the volume.
The mathematician carefully measured the diameter and evaluated a triple integral.
The physicist filled a beaker with water, put the ball in the water, and measured the total displacement.
The engineer looked up the model and serial numbers in his red-rubber-ball table.
Nice
The mathematician would've just looked at the diameter and said "hey there's a solution" and then leave lol
Another popular option is when you are too lazy to integrate - say "I'm leaving the solution in quadratures".
A mathematician wouldn't be able to solve it. They'll be more interested in proving that the ball has no sides.
@@MudahnyaFizik But a ball obviously a has two sides. It has an inside and an outside. Check mate math
As an engineering student, I would be more embarrassed of my calculator history being publicized than my internet history being publicized
I know I am like 8+7 what's that? Its 16 but that's 8*2 ok so it must be one less than 16 then 15 fuck i must be wrong, checks with the calculator. Ah I was right, proceeds to write 8 as answer.
Absolutely XD
Especially in exams where you double check your calculations
hmmm 2+2 i know thats four but… WHAT IF IT CHANGED? better check just in case
@@estergrant6713 yep 🤣
Wai- you guys get to use calculator ?
"The optimist says the glass is half full, the pessimist says the glass is half empty. The engineer says the glass is twice as big as it needs to be." Best. quote. ever.
And the physicist ducks
@@Mac-hr9rg Jeez man. I didnt comment on a post just to be called names.
CedarCan the guy I replied to deleted his post that wasn’t for you
@@Mac-hr9rg oh lmao
CedarCan (:
“I can see you cheating”
“Yeah will prove it, *rigorously* “
LMAO
lmao
C mamó
I laughed so fucking hard on this one. I had to pause the video.
Yeah, that was absolutely golden!
Actually DED from laughter
Being an engineering student I can confirm that "if I got 8/10 in this question then I can make up some BS to get 2/10 in another question and I'll be golden" is basically our holy mantra
Yo I’m an engineering student too and that’s high key facts no lie
There is no better feeling than answering half of the exam and getting the exact grade you were aiming for. For me it’s the equivalent of getting an A.
Same here
@@albertcoll9 this is exactly an A. Not from the societys viewpoint but in your world which is the only world that really counts for you
@@albertcoll9 i did that through most my academic career, tried being a minimalist but it kept ramping up, real early too, 4th grade, i now regret it as i somehow just did not fail for 4 years with straight A, i managed to be doing college prep by 8th grade as i had completed my requirements for highschool and still hadnt taken a step in one. now what did i do with these, play the silver market, accidentally predict us response to the covid with schools in February 2020 on a friday and it happens by mondays closings, and generally keep saying stuff with seemingly half the detail and getting it right on predictions.
“Can you repeat everything you just said in the past 8 weeks I didn’t catch that”
Lmfaoooo
Sums it up all classes in University.
When final exams arrive.
Me in physics
yep me in Linear Algebra and Analysis.
I study Animation now....
I read this at the exact moment he said it in the video
"I don't know what I don't know"
"What was that noise"
"You mean proof?"
"There it is again"
This had me dying
I really hated the proof stupidity
HAHAHAHA
@@Ekolop what engineer are you?
@@michealbay1290 The one that measures effort to results .... Try to make it more efficient jajajajja
@@Ekolop huehuehue eee was the worst
This shit hit home. At one point I spent like hours creating this incredibly rich and complicated excel spreadsheet that calculated my optimistic and realstic grades on the basis of the assignments I have submited in a given time in regards to the whole year. I was supposed to be studying for an exam at that point, but I went "nah, lemme just create this monstrosity of a spreadsheet"
dang I wish I had that spreadsheet 9 years ago
I never did the spreadsheets but I ran loads of "quick" calcs. My friends' brains exploded when I said, "I'm not studying for that exam. I'd need a 26.5% to drop to a C and a 106% to get an A. Soooo, I'm getting a B in this class."
@@ashleyn.9166 lol I do the exact same thing
yeah and that experience making the spreadsheet will serve you better once you graduate than that exam ever could hope to...
Same. Every semester I add all the assignments/ tests etc for each course and change projected to actual as they get graded. For whatever reason its helped me stay focused.
Me: "When will we ever use this in life?"
Professor: "Tomorrow. For the pop quiz that's worth 20% of your grade."
fine you win
When you eventually help your future kid in his math class so he can call you the best dad in the world.
@@kolbyadams9979 that is wholesome asf
Imagine having a professor that actually tells you about the pop quiz a day ahead.
@@kolbyadams9979 is my kid a nerd? telling me I'm the best because I solved math instead buying him a car or something
😂😂😂
"If i can manage to get 8/10 points on this question, then that will make up for the 2 points i will try to BS on this question"
Me on every test ever
Yea me pretty much on every chemistry/Biology/Physics exam
2:55 I feel called out. This is exactly what I’ve been doing back since 5th grade, but instead of passing I go for the lowest possible A. I didn’t even know I wanted to go into engineering until middle of high school
What are you doing here
I didn't know I wanted to do Pure math + Physics until after I got admitted to an engineering program 💀
I didn't even know what engineering was until after high school😂
Yo I do the same thing
@@ajsap8160 Sounds stupid but same story for me. I only thought of studying maths or physics as the options. Will probably study engineering in grad school.
*Stares at classmates test*
Teacher - "Keep your eyes on your own test"
MajorPrep - "Is that optional or a requirement"
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"Show me the applications."
Dude, pretty accurate.
100% accurate.
Hussein Naji worst case scenario, just about everything you learn is exercise for your critical thinking skills.
@@Chrisratata That was ultimately the conclusion my physics professor gave me, that it was more about learning to think through and understand how to solve problems more than committing any particular equations to memory, but I would argue that the process of learning itself is greatly improved by knowing what the equations are supposed to do. When you have some idea how the answer is supposed to look, you can get to it more readily (for better or worse).
@@NotHPotter agreed but the bulk of my point is that what you end up doing for a living is almost certainly not going to directly make use of every single thing you learn in school, and most importantly, many of the problems you solve in the real world will be so unique to your projects and unprecedented that you'll have to analyze how to somewhat derive new methods anyway.
But again, I agree with you. Knowing applications as you learn helps the material stick...I think one of my main issue are the people that use not knowing a concept's purpose as an excuse to not try. The exercise is still incredibly beneficial towards the development of your analytical skills, no matter what you go on to do.
@@Chrisratata For sure, and that's why I caveated my comment with "for better or worse". On the one hand, I realize that many solutions will require finding an answer that is hard to anticipate (often), so knowing how the answer should look isn't entirely realistic, but at the same time the "take this test in a vacuum" approach is also completely artificial, as the best problem solvers are often the ones who know how to best seek out help and make use of available resources.
Admittedly, at this point we're discussing some of the more complicated aspects of education as a whole, but it doesn't change the fact that I spent the better part of the last few months begging (along with another few people in my class) my linear algebra instructor to give us some kind of context for the eigen-nonsense and matrix multiplication he kept making us do. Go figure, this channel dropped a video about what it all means a day after the final.
“Ok we are trying to maximize the final grade to effort ratio”
That sentence just about summed up my entire college experience.
Absolutely. Getting a B.S. in any engineering discipline requires prioritizing classes based on difficulty vs. the credit hours of the particular class. Always was a juggling act.
thats just engineering at its core though isnt it?
"I'm at the hardest part of Calc 2... the part where you have to calculate what you need on the final to still pass"
The one good thing about corona - it wiped out the real calc 2 final and we got a multiple choice take home test instead. I'll be grateful right up until my next math class
@@bignope5720 I get notes for my differential class. That and an almighty curve from above is the only reason I have a chance
a multiple choice calc 2 final. if only...
I posted this in a diff comment but to sum up a story my calculations should me barely passing, if I did at all, and then when the grade was posted it was an A.
@@user-tw4kt8du9t never mind that... a “take home test” wtf os that? Lmao
God Ive pass a numerical calc like this, the professor give me the barely enough to pass.
*Grade to Effort Ratio*
Remember that.
Damn I wish I knew that...
True
AKA “lazy score”. How many beers can I drink and still get an A?
@@ClaudiusJovianus Bruh, never forget: C's get degrees.
@@ClaudiusJovianus its more like how many beers can i drink and still pass the course.
The funny thing is that if u have already passed, that number can be as big as you want it to be.
“How do I profit… from this… tomorrow”
As a senior mechanical engineering major this really resonated with me lol.
Me at engineering: Opens up the calculator. Types 5+15 just to be sure...
Spams clear just to be safe. Then off and on to be safe more.
So true
Thought I was the only one
Dude, I even do 1+13 one time.....just to be sure
Why does truth hurt so much?
“I’m sorry but why would you try to go for a C in the first place?”
“What?”
This shit killed me I felt that
Is he actually implying that you should try to get an A? Is he insane? lmao
As an engineer...I would answer "Cuz i got shit to do"
@@JonpaulGee you sir, are very right.
Bro i love it
This shit was too funny 😂
I am blown away at how generic the experience of studying engineering is. I finished studying almost a decade ago and I still remember at the beginning of every exam going through the whole thing, choosing the questions that I felt confident answering, and doing a quick marks calculation to see how to maximize the points/time ratio. Then getting stuck with one question halfway through, switching to a different one, restarting the question at a later stage.
Im doing engineering right now, nothing has changed 😂
things like this dont tend to change, you could go back a hundred years and it'd be the same.
Lmfao what the fuck I just had my first exam and did the exact same thing
"The solution is trivial and left as an exercise to the grader"
Made me laugh hard in real life
yeah that part was underrated
These damn course books and their prerequisites...
I repeated that sentence word for word on my exam on how my professor had stated in the lecture notes that the solution was 'trivial'. Professor didn't like it but because that's what he wrote in his own lecture notes, he still game me the point lol.
@@AbhilekhPandey The professor didn’t like it because that is for actual mathematicians and you as an engineer, how could you dare to think that you could respond like that? Yet s/he is required to teach you, who is ignoring about all of that nuance in mathematics because of how the education system works.
I’m not trying to be mean. I am mathematician by education. So providing an alternative viewpoint of hull think might be giving a little bit of a humorous edge. (Even though these days I am scientist and work with a lot of engineers.)
trivial For the solution check different equations sides 56-57
Pi: an infinite decimal that is one of the most revolutionary discoveries in mathematics and engineering
Engineers: it’s 3 take it or leave it
My dad always said it was 22/7
Ricky Cook quite close until the fifth digit. Lmao
You look like your need a cup of calming Jasmine tea
Math’s my bad blood...
@@rickycook1539 You can use either 3.14 or 22/7. It just depends on the usability. Generally, 3.14 is used for all numbers, except for multiples of 7 which uses 22/7.
Anyways, that's what I was taught in school.
2:45 after getting my degree, this is so spot on. I had a friend, don’t know how he graduated, but the most effort I had ever seen him put into something was this really well made spreadsheet to see how poorly he could do on the final to pass the class and walk at graduation. The final was only a couple days away and he hadn’t even started reviewing material.
Him: "Why the hell- does everyone look like they know what they're doing?"
Me: Don't mind me I'm just writing my name slowly pretending I'm not a left out.
Me writing work: well this shit looks right enough
Me: just get an 85 and I can snooze the rest of the day
Yeah yeah
Holy shit this is so true, but not for everybody though
My math classes always hated me, son of an engineer and an accountant...math is in my blood as is efficient use of time. I'd sleep in class, do no homework, ace the tests without studying completely destroying the curve for everyone else on the tests. Calculus and advanced calc included. Fun times.
Engineer's goal: maximize not the grade, but the grade-effort ratio 😆
Facts this makes me wanna be an engineer even more
Is no one going to mention that with zero effort he will maximize his grade-effort ratio by dividing by zero? (assume there will be curve on the test which is greater than zero, and that we working in the projective real line where division by zero is well defined thus making the ratio infinite)
Benjamin Thoburn quit overthinking
@@Auden. Yeah, I think he meant "what topics should I study/focus on first in order to get the most out of my study time while also getting at least a minimum grade" or something
I was laughing out loud at this point, it's so ME to engineer a 75 in the class out of 60 in the exam!
- "I can see you cheating"
+ "yeah, Prove it RIGOROUSLY"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"I thought that was trivial and left it as an exercise for the grader" rofl
wat is rofl
@@KanzakiKaori9009 lmgtfy.com/?q=rofl&s=d&iie=1
@@KanzakiKaori9009 rolling on floor laughing
@@Sternburg thank you
@@KanzakiKaori9009 rofl my waffles
"Proof by calculator" hurt me on an emotional level
Still better than proof by induction.
@@fawadmirza. u right u right
"proof by confusion" hurts even more
Proof by “It just makes sense to me, how do you not see it?”
Proof by intimidation: "This better be true..."
Surprisingly accurate. I hated proofs. I debated being a math major, but once I took proofs I knew I made the right call going into engineering. I actually spent more time asking my engineering professors for applications since very few of my EE professors gave them. I remember my controls classes were particularly bad about that. My methods class was even worse about it. I struggled a lot in those classes for that reason.
Does engineering not require math?
@@DeathnoteBB Yes, but not proofs.
@@DeathnoteBB Engineering school requires math. Calculus, and NO way around that. However, practical day-to-day engineering involves mabye 5% of the mat we ever learn.
Unrealistic, I can actually understand the professor through his accent.
I think that he's pretty clear for the most part and can usually infer the missing bits if I somehow can't make it out. Same goes for his videos.
The professor doesn’t sound like a person from Russia that just learnt English last week. Unrealistic
I just want everyone to know that I am the 420th like. Relevant because with the power of weed suddenly accents become intelligible. Don't ask me why, it just happens.
@@Silent. he's 99% german. I'm from Germany and here we have this accent.
I'm pretty sure.
(It would also make sense, because he mentioned "is Proof a german word for..")
Life would be so much easier with professors you could understand.
"...but why would you even go for a C in the first place?"
"What?"
I'm dead
The Classic: "Hmmm, I haven't started the homework and it's due tomorrow." **Checks Syllabus** _Lowest HW score is dropped_ "Nice! Homework done."
"Yeah, let's get an F in the chat for the curve that I ruined"
Lmao I'm done with the internet today, nothing will top this
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Calculating how much you need for a certain grade - oh, the memories!
Pretty sure I did this more than actually studying
Did it for chemistry in first year, undergrad... My weakest subject. Got an unexpected A though
I do it all the time. If I need a 50 on the final to get an A, why study?
Somehow I did that in Japanese tests from 3-7 th Grade but I still have ways to go
Start off really strong because the material is easy. After that you can usually pass with failing the final hehe
You know what's even worse than opening a test and not recognising anything. Recognising everything but not being quite able to get it. In thermodynamic this demoralised me so much I actually tried to calculate the heat absorbed by the system during an adiabatic process using the first law. When I succeeded and got a zero I gave myself the biggest facepalm of my life (thankfully I passed the test)
This has got to be the best story I've ever read on the internet
Are we talking quasistatic or rapid?
"recognizing everything but not being quite able to get it"
UGH. YES. FML
Physics in a nutshell for me
I had a persistent mental block with statics exactly like you just described. I still don’t understand why because it’s not a terribly complicated class. I guess I just found it much less intuitive than dynamic mechanics
My Calc II prof actually loved engineering and physics and was more than happy to discuss practicalities of mathematical models and their real world limitations. Awesome professor.
Fake news
cus it's Calc 2 lol
Least awesome calc 2 prof
My calc II professor used moments of inertia to prove that the earth was round
I AM FUCKINF JEALOUS MINE KICKED ME OUT OF CLASS FOR NOT TAKING HER CLASS AT FIRST HALF OF YEAR WE DONT EVWN PICK TEACHERE *BREATHES FLAMES OF HELL
“I can see you’re cheating.”
“Oh yeah, well prove it. Rigorously.”
😂😂😂
Hahahah that was great
One day, two engineers were tasked with attaching wires to some poles. They thought to measure the height of all the poles and hence calculate the estimated total length of wire required by calculating the curves. They kept thinking for much time while standing below the pole but couldn't come up with a decent idea; they thought about measuring the angle, but the surrounding terrain was not smooth, they thought of using a ladder, but it couldn't be procured in the middle of nowhere, they thought of tying a stone to a rope and throwing it upwards, but realized that it would be very inaccurate. They were out of ideas.
A mechanic happened to be passing by, and seeing the confused faces of those two engineers, he decided to help them. He enquired about the problem and promptly unscrewed the pole from the base, laid it down, measured it, and screwed it back. He told result to the engineers and bid them farewell.
Engineer 1 : "What the hell did he just do?"
Engineer 2 : "Yes, what an absolute fool! He had to calculate the *height* , not the *length* ."
Engineering students:
I fear no man
But that thing
FIND THE LIMIT USING FORMAL DEFINITION
It scares me
Being an engineer, I always try a way to apply L'Hospital.
Lol🤭
Yes, anything but the actual def of a limit
FIND THE DERIVATIVE USING FORMAL DEFINITION
@@KakashiChidori616
Ahhh yeah and then on the exam the question goes like: "Find the limit of the function by not using L'Hopital's rule"😭😭😭😭😭
@@aleksandardashich oh my god 😂
The Fundamental Theorem of Engineering:
- π = 3 - e = 2
- π = e
- sin(x) = x
- cos(x) = 1
- If it's close enough,
then it's good enough.
3 = 2
Quick meths
@@philiphunt-bull5817 quick maffs
I eat moths
Try putting ketchup on cereals it tastes great
@@duckaroo9080 I like , vodka in my Kellogg's though
I can't describe how much this hit me as I retake my calc 2 class while having breezed through any physics and development class I've taken.
Lmao that was exactly how it went for me
Professor: hw-20% exam/quiz-80%
Me: so you're saying homework is optional?
This is too accurate 🤣
For me I'd squeeze out a near 100 on hw's to try and lessen my exam anxiety.
It didn't work but hey I didn't need to do as well to get a decent grade.
Listen here you little piece of sh#t
*Minimum effort* how I like to roll 😂
Funny story, my differential equations professor was so awful that I gave up on the homework, got an average of 40% on the exams, and still curved up to an A.
One of the worst parts was trying to understand what the teacher was writing on the board for an hour only to realize it was a proof and we only need to know the equation he comes up with in the end
That was the best part, coming out of a class with only an equation to memorize 😂
@@elsa_ Actually I had to learn all the proofs
@@Laurent69ftm yeah math major profs keeps on asking proofs even though they are teaching math to engineering students
@@maruManU210 But it's very efficient. At this level (the level of math we did), if you don't understand the proofs, and even if you understand them but can't do them yourself, you can no longer follow this level of math. It goes hand in hand.
On god bro
"Dear calc 2 gods, please let this final make a little bit of sense... wtf is that?!"
I felt that
“Why does everyone look like they know what they’re doing” can relate 💀
SAME
- "I can see you cheating."
- "Then prove it!... Rigorously."
My favorite part.
Same. And it’s only fair XD
A video has never described my college life so well.
Homework was extra credit for my calculus class. So i only ever touched the parts where I was confused, until i understood it, my papers would end up looking like some crazy person drawing scribbles. The
Professor always bashed on the low test scores because of the correlation of no homework and low test scores (he showed an anonymous graph of the class test scores). Of course I was the one that always passed the test even though I turned in no HW. So there was always a stray dot in the graph. I was actually proud of myself for being such an under achievier.
Where the fuck did you go? My school has an overreliance on homework making it worth 30% of the final grade and christ it is the most tedious boring shit that makes me not want to do the math instead of helping me memorize it, even when I don't need to...
Engineers be like: "What do you mean proof? It just works"
yup, always kind of, idk why it works, idk how it works, and i dont care as long as it works
@@greenumbrellacorp5744 Computer Engineer over here and same as long as I did the job just take it
Some greek guy proved it over 2000 years ago, why should I do it again?
This comment is Todd Howard approved
@@greenumbrellacorp5744 programming summed up
Fun fact. I, an engineer, once left the square root of 4 unsimplified on a math test with no calculators. I could've used that proof.
…2?
2 or -2
@@angela192 sqrt of 4 is always 2
@@thereareantsbehindyoureyes7529 , well, it depends on whether or not you’re using the principal square root function.
@@thereareantsbehindyoureyes7529 -2 * -2 = 4
" im doing the worst part of calc II"
"What part"
"All of it (mostly infinite seies)
‘Please let this paper be ok’
*opens paper*
‘What the fuck is that’
Lmaooo this was me yesterday in my maths mock
ATAR by chance?
Same here at yesterday
Literally me during my final exam
My fondest memories of first year math was giving up on the last question 5 minutes before the end of the exam and looking around the room at either 1) students crying 2) students flipping through blank pages
Yeah, for college prep school student, cal 1 and 2 was like this. Then, calc 3 and 4 came...
Was taking a strength of materials class, thought I was struggling, looked around and saw people with their heads down, crying etc, and I smiled…..curve is coming
I remember that during an statistics 2 exam a girl just started crying sitting right behind me. The teacher gave her water and took her out of the classroom. I think she was failing the class for the 2nd time. That was absolutely TERRIFYING, after that I aced that class and finished with the highest grade of the class for the first and last time as Any respectable engineer should.
Calc 2 was me and 10 other people in the class still "taking" (suffering) the final 2 hours after it was supposed to be over because the professor had a free period and let us keep going.
I wanted to just drop dead so I could stop looking at the paper. At least it was obvious that everyone spending 3.5 hours on a 1.5 hour exam were all in the same boat.
@@joaquin2473 congrats on destroying the curve and that girl's future at the same time.
I remember in my pure math courses, there was often some guy asking what the applications were. He filled me with the superiority and hubris I needed to succeed.
"I can see you cheating."
"Yeah prove it. Rigorously."
Best line
Yooooo him calculating his grades in like 3:09 is literally me and every engineering student I know 😂😂
also highly applies to comp sci students.
I think it’s any stem student
@@lordtachanka9967 does the grade matter aslong as I pass? No it does not
If this is normal then I will pass with flying colors.
Started doing it freshman year of hs to relieve stress. Haven’t turned back
Ayo! It's your other channel's profile pic! I love these kinds of moments!
That "ohmygodohmjygodmohygdmohymgodohmygod" during the exam hit me right in the feels.
evri tyme i cri
especially when you're at the honors class #thatfeeling
Everytime
as someone who did math at uni, my favourite bit was when he tries to answer all remaining questions after the announcement that there's 30 seconds to go with one-word answers! xD
As a student studying calculus in university, I approve of this comment.
The minimalist one hit me close to home. I did not learn how an integral works until Calc 3.
How. How on earth. How.... How did you pass calc 2 without knowing integrals
Now that's completely crazy how in the hell did you pass calc 2🤣😂😆
Forgot the classic. "He/she can't fail all of us right?"
“Dear Calc 2 gods, please make this test make a little bit of sense”
*opens test*
“What the f*ck is that”
LITERALLY THO
Stupid series huh
Can confirm, currently going through calc 2 hell.
@@freddouglas6935 wait for calc 3 HAHAHA its *chefs kiss* got an amazing 0,5 out of 20
@@Noellexafael maybe its just community college calc 3 but 2/3 of my Calc 3 was easy
Mainly covered partial differentiation
@@HackersSun Cold be related to colleges indeed because my calculus 2 and 4 were easy and 1 and 3 were really hard.
5:28 bro I do this sooo much lol. I always weigh the odds of my getting a good score just in case I don't feel like solving a problem. I overcomplicate things too much
“Maximize the grade to effort ratio” killed me
""Prove it ... rigorously"" I would say very rigorously 😂😂😂😂
I once was teaching a maths student programming in C. He said statement x=x+1 is wrong, because x got cancelled and it becomes 0=1.
Actually did the calculation at the end for every single class. Wondering my range for the final. For Calc 1 I needed a 97 to get an A, and told my prof ahead of time. Only got a 94 but he gave me the “97”. It does pay off.
How do you tell a prof you want an A ? Like really?? Does that work????
@@lillyluna2449 Yeah if I did that, my profs would rather push the cutoff higher rather than bring it down. So in this case, even if I'd gotten 97, I'd just be told that the you now need 98 for an A and to go screw myself..
Dude last spring in a math class I calculated my grade every week and by the end of the semester I was looking at barely passing by a percent if my final grade was generous. So the semester ends and the proff doesnt post a grade for a month, I wrote an email to the omsbudsman asking wtf and then a few days later I had an A! Lol wtf
My A- final to get a C in Partial Differential Equations feels this.
@@lillyluna2449 If you're a motivated student, they will try helping you with your goal a bit. See it like that, if the professor is motivated, he wants to reward your motivation and hard work and if the professor is unmotivated, he'll still help you because he just wants to be done with it and not have some nerds argue with him about a few %.
Wait I thought you're not allowed to wear a π²=g shirt during a math test.
Why not? Who even uses numbers in math tests?
@@RanEncounter
Especially Calculus...
Days pass before you get to see a number.
@@grandmastergyorogyoro532So true.
It is funny as I used numbers more in my undergrad physics classes then in my undergrad and grad classes in math combined.
Allright I know what you guys are saying 😅.
Also thanks for the ♥ @MajorPrep
e^2 = pi^2 = g = 10
change my mind
2:04 This hits hard.
'Why the hell does everyone look like they know what they're doing?', that's painfully accurate. I just finished my first year and really need to step it up.
Poker face. Lets think of it as a type of Peter's principle. No one ever knows what they are doing. Promise
Study, study, study.
"I can see you cheating."
"Yeah well prove it... rigorously"
I have never taken a test without even knowing a single answer.
But there was one time I went to a test not even knowing the chapter names, I hated the class, the professor and the material so much I ignored it all.
It is a form of scarily dangerous freedom you feel sitting there in that room filled with sorrow, despair, effort, tension and determination while you are the only one that can be that free with no care in the world. I felt, alive.
Ah man it reminds me of my french class in high school, turning in a blank paper and chilling
The Holy Trinity:
*Mathematics* - Flammable Maths
*Physics* - Andrew Dotson
*Engineering* - MajorPrep
I am curious does anyone know a Comp sci person that has a similar style to the holy trinity.
Just needs a Chemistry guy...
Diptonil Roy NileRed maybe
Mechanical engineering - AvE
Electeical engineering- big Clive
Holy shit
2:47
-I am at the hardest part of Cal 2 and I can't figure this out.
-Wich part?
( I thought he said )
-The part where you have to calculate.
Honestly same.
Bruuuh
@@Mac-hr9rg Calc 2 must be different at different colleges because every once in a while I hear someone say calc 2 was easy. That was the most difficult class I've ever taken in my life. Even people I know who aced it thought it was hard. I don't know how that class could be easy unless you somehow already had exposure to the material beforehand.
I'm a CS major and my OOP class is like that. It's relatively easy compared to my other courses because I taught myself programming and OOP a little while back. Many people who've had zero exposure are really struggling. I think that's what the situation is like for calc 2, or it's just easier depending on your school.
@@Mac-hr9rg You're misinterpreting my last response. Read it again.
@@Mac-hr9rg I'm telling you that you misinterpreted what I said. I'm the one who isn't bright when one of us can't interpret common english? That makes no sense. Then you're throwing ad hominems like a child. Bye.
@@Mac-hr9rg My dude, I'm in higher level math courses now, wth are you talking about?
I love Canvas because the grade distribution on every assignment lets you better calculate future effort requirements. The only problem is fully trusting the distributions prior to course drop date.
"Zach, I can see you cheating"
"Well yes prove it, rigorously'
Lol this had me fucking dead
hahaha, oh crap caught, I've done the same thing, I've calculated what minimal I need to "pass" a class.
Pretty sure everybody has done that at some point
Yeah, but now I'm a teacher. 😳😂😂😂
i do it on tests all the time
Same here then on the last test I just stared at the paper losing hope because Idk what to do lol
Every. Single. Sem 🤣🤣🤣
"He drops the lowest quiz, but he hasn't put in the last 2 quizzes so I'm not sure if its going to be one of those 2"
Most relatable situation ever
ok... so i'm doing a math major but honestly i can relate to the real world application part. many times i feel we're doing math for the sake of math and it can get really annoying
I'm studying theoretical physics and I wonder about the applications of what I do about half the time XD
@@konny9469 buut, ur studying that, i mean, most of the eng r NOT going for maths,.. that's the point hah
@@greenumbrellacorp5744 Yeah thats also true haha
I’m an engineer, I literally studied math exclusively for the applications, you can imagine I hated calculus with my life. Never used it in my life.
@@joaquin2473 what kinda engineer doesn't use calculus
That calculation of trying to figure out the minimum scores you need to pass the course without being sure which of your projects, quizzes, or assignments the professor will actually count toward your grade. Hahahaha That's the where you become a true mathematician.
I can’t begin to explain how much I can relate to this, I’m glad others have had similar experiences.
me, a true engineer: has a spreadsheet with all my formulas to maximize the grade to effort ratio according to class medians so that it’s calculated as the semester goes on,,,,
ladies and gents i shit you not i have actually done this
If i could do this i would. Bare minimum is the shit.
Cool story square
finally, found the true engineer
"anyone can design a bridge that won't break. an engineer can design a bridge that is barely hanging on within an inch of its life"
@@thewinter_ Holy shit dude, you fucking killed me with that! I'm gonna start quoting that
When I went to Uni to study Engineering 30 years ago, we had this saying:
*_"51% is 1% wasted effort."_*
There was a huge effort required just to pass ... plus so many other classes with difficult material that the effort required to pass _everything_ was just exhausting. Getting more than a pass mark on one was a bad tradeoff if it meant failing something else ....
@@jmw1500 probably. All engineering math is calc 1,2, stats 2 and then there's a weird calc 3
The rest is application theory of things like how do fluids work, how does heat work, or if your a civil engineer sum forces =0
It's not exactly like that these days... You can score really good in all the subjects
@@Vaiboooooo yup. All the resources available now makes it much easier to get better grades. Efforts for a 4.0 isn't worth it still though, much better to use that time for networking and doing engineering projects outside of class as it could possibly be considered as experience to recruiters
@@gregheffly I just graduated. I had Calc 1, Calc 2, Calc 3, Differential Equations, and Stats. It was the same classes as all mathematics majors take. No special engineering math classes.
i mean calc 1 2 is easy & stats too, but after calc 3 and applicative maths appear the difficulty suddenly spiked haha
"I can see you cheating."
"Well prove it, rigorously!"
Damn, I'm gonna use that.
“So just how partial are we talking here” me on every test there ever was in pre engineering
Too many of us probably did this. I personally spread the effort over all the assignments and tried to make my tests as irrelevant as possible.
For me that spreads the effort most effectively across the whole course with the added benefit of lower mental stress at the most critical times.
After I saw epsilon less than zero i died
I was so triggered 😂
at least one other person spotted the shortest maths joke :D
FUCK DELTA EPSILLON FUCK THE DELTA EPSILOON PROOF OF A LIMIT sorry PTSD
That just hurt... a lot 😬
At first, I cringed hard... But then I laughed
It's funny how the teacher knew "the noise" was the word proof.
The Virgin Math Professor vs The Chad Engineering Student.
God hath spake
@@kuldeepjoshi8010 Spoke?
@@monotrope spake.
I love how aggressively he typed on his calculator 😂😂
I had a calculus professor my freshman year who had three test the entire year. The first test (that was the day after the drop date) was 3 questions and if you didn’t know everything in the first half of the class you missed all of the questions. Out of a class of 85 people 1 person got a 67, 4 people got a 33 and everyone else got a 0. 3 people passed the course. The professor did not weight the grades at all. The next semester I retook the course and got an A. Still sets me mad every time I think about it. It’s been 20 years.
Great odins raven this was great.
"Was that supposed to be a ζ, ξ or ς? Also in the second example, didn't quite get it, is that supposed to be x, X or χ?"
So many times!!! my teacher writes zeta like epsilon!
@@sarahs8197 Oh no. I just realized I do that. I need to make my epsilons look more like backwards threes than little squiggles with a j tail.
0:04 this guy is from where Kaze Emanuar is from. I have no idea where that is but they have the exact same accent.
It's a german accent
1:29 now that is a pro gamer move
I was a physics major in the 90's (now a professor for 20+ years). My proof of the formula is that it's in the textbook. I barely survived Diff Eq; but then it all came together and made perfect sense when applying it in physics class.
"Whats this and what it do"
Every engineer ever
Little me: I wanna learn how to build computers and write code.
Uni: OK, we'll put you into the same class as the hardcore math geeks.
Me: O_o
Im dying in math courses. Im doing really well in computer science courses however in math ehh its oretty bad. Also failed my google technical lol
@@sneezygibz6403 use your computer programs to learn math. Make an array in the console, boom, you have a cartesian plane. Int x = 100; Public static int[ ] ValuesForX = new int[ x ]; For( int I =0; I < x.length; i++) [arrayInConsole[x].backColor = system.drawing.color.green; ]
@Kalenz Some of that math will come really useful with computers and programming. Unfortunately, universities typically don't teach maths in ways that shows you how things are useful in the real world... (too much theory, not enough application) Usefulness of many theories I just realized years after university.
@@sc00f When it comes to computer engineering high school math is almost enough. I don't need to be able to do proofs. No one will ever hire an engineer to do proofs. A mathematician might hire me to program a 3d graph to show his proof but not figure the proof itself out.
Just one example.
@Kalenz Being able to prove something formally may come handy when you can't just brute-force a solution, maybe because it's not computationally feasible or some other reason. So for example you can make a formal proof that your program is always correct, and your customer will be more satisfied. Being able to prove that your program is correct, or prove that X always leads to Y, can be really useful sometimes. There are actual real-life situations when you need formal proofs for your programs, especially when program error may lead to death or serious damage: medical industry, aerospace, flight control, etc. In those fields, programs *do* need formal proofs of correctness... You can't just use a beta test version software to control an aeroplane... People might die as a result. Of course if you find a job in a different field, you may never need that, but the fact that you are *able* to think formally and prove something, *is* actually useful sometimes, even in programming.
"Engineer? Yeah i'm
engi-NEARING MY LIMIT!"
3:52 as a mathematician, this is my favorite joke