Fluke T130 Unboxing
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- Replacement Fluke T130 voltage tester.
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Excellent review thank you. Bought one today to replace a multimeter. Your demonstration has covered the operation far, far better than the manual.
I had the Fluke T2 voltage indicators back in the day and my second set was recalled. My first tester was my all time favourite voltage testers .
The thick endings are for testing an outlet, they fit perfectly in an Schuko outlet with shutters. It's harder to open the shutters with the thin probes. You need the right angle and the proper pressure to open the shutters here, and with the thin propes it's very hard to get the pressure without damaging the shutters. The shutters should prevent children sticking a knitting needle into the outlet, so the thick probes are more shaped like the contacts of plug and open the shutters much easier. And if the handles are clipped together they have the proper distance to fit into an outlet, so you can test it with a single hand.
The three-phase indicator is a useful thing, especially if you connect a motor using the three phases. They should be connected to have a right rotating field, so the motor is rotating in the right direction. You can change the rotating field by switching two of the phases. Worst case scenario: Table saw motor connected not correctly, roting field is left so the nut which is holding the sawblade would become loose. A flying sawblade is quite undesireable in my opinion. There are special devices available to test this, they have three test leads and they're not relying on capacitive coupling.
Got my replacement T150 yesterday; although I carry a selection of Fluke multimeters, I missed the T150 immensely! For any testing and fault finding jobs where an accurate or precise voltage measurement isn’t required, it’s brilliant.
Also, the RCD test feature gives a sufficiently low resistance to test 110v DC binary inputs on various bits of control gear. The advantages over just applying voltage using a straightforward shorting lead to the supply being (a) there’s no chance of accidentally shorting a supply directly to earth through the T150, and (b) instant indication that supply voltage is present.
Confession time though: despite having used it for years prior to the recall, I was blissfully unaware of the self test function described here. I always thought it was some sort of glitch...!
So far much safer than the screw pole tester where you have to put the hand on a metal terminal and rely on non-failure. A very touch of concern from fluke for recalling and send a new unit.
These things use the capacity to your hand for earth reference (single lead voltage sensing and L/R phase sequence indicator). It might be neat to explore that some more, e.g. how well you have to hold onto them for that to function.
This is why it is important to check your probe on a socket that is live to ensure your tool is working properly.
Very useful tool. And now, with no DEATH.
Watching your videos John when you get new equipment and get them out if the box we all do like children with new Toys and every time it’s just exiting and no matter what age we are
Thanks john very informative
I use a Fluke T5-1000V & they are brilliant,I have NEVER had a problem with it & the build quality is absolutely 1st class,I can't fault it.But in the case of JW'z previous unit,it was probably fine,a lot of people tend to confuse recalls,with an absolut,definate problem,when in most cases,it is merely a precautionary measure,big companies like Fluke,have equally big reputations to protect & they are not going to risk it,for the sake of a few thousand "potentially"faulty units.Electrical test equipment,like all electrical devices,inherently can fail,do they always??? no! but better safe than sorry.Anyhoo be safe out there Boys & Girls,Madame Electricity,is NOT the forgiving type ⚡⚡⚡
Can't agree with you on this. I found out about the recall and remembered I had a broken fluke in an old toolbox that had failed in exactly the way described in the recall.
I've sent it to the Netherlands for a replacement. Will see what the replacement is like.
Cheers John, waiting for my T150 to come back, they're a week behind schedule now. I received an email from fluke apologising. They originally said 24hr turn around upon receipt. It's now a week. So if anyone is wondering where there's is 🙄 I hope they sorted the crappy ohmeter reading on the new T150 as mine was giving intermittent resistance readings from new. There's a UA-cam clip about it out there. Anyway, they're a nice bit of kit 🙂 great video JW
(update: 11/12/18) now nearly 4 weeks waiting for a replacement.. Not impressed! Just be wary if you are reliant on your returned tester. Luckily I have other testers I can use.
I also use my proving unit before and after testing
The "fat" round tips, shown at 4:20, can be very useful, even if JW does not like them :) they have the exact same dimension as a European style plug tips, and when the two probes are clicked together the distance between the tips is also the same as a european style plug. Almost all such plugs have "child protection" (" Kinderschutz"), which means that you have to insert both tips inso the pluck in parallel. If not there are physical pieces blocking the opening. It is much easier to test plugs when having those tips installed.
I imagine they are also very helpful when measuring CEE plugs. Its tricky to hold the probes such that you know for sure if they are acually touching the brass in there.
Perhaps you already knew this :)
Thanks for your sharing 👍
Hi John. I wonder if the 'beep' was introduced to extend battery life? BobUK
Top man. Thanks
... I am still waiting for mine, I sent it to them beginning of November... :(
does anyone know if i can out the probe tips from the t6-1000/t5-600 ext on to it
Hi John, does your T130 show left phase rotation correctly? I've been through two T150s that only show right phase rotation…
yes, no problem with the one I have now, or the one which was returned due to the recall.
Can you use this voltage indicator as a phase rotation tester while doing inspection and testing or it has to be proper 3 wire device?
It does have a phase rotation feature, but it's far better to actually connect to all 3 terminals, as there are other problems that can't be detected with a 2 pole device. Such as missing phase, incorrect voltage, 2 of the terminals connected to the same phase (so only 2 present), etc.
John thx for the valuable video. I have T150 which I bought as second hand so I have not got the receipt for it. in your opinion would it be any issues if I return it . many thanks
No Mate no problems at all as I was in the same situation and they changed it with no issue
Thanks David
For some reason this costs more than the T5/6 and 110 range in Australia
Oh wow, they still make stickers in the UK?
Actually, the stickers are made in China. But they're *stuck on* in the UK.
We’re very proud of our long sticker heritage 😉
Are they really made in UK? Sent to Netherlands, then back to me in UK? 😂 The world is crazy wasteful.
What I'd like to know is what it said on the ones we sent back, but they are all gone now. It wasn't a build issue anyhow, this was poor design or some beancounter saving a penny by using the cheaper cable. Maybe they had to scramble to get production going for the replacements and they had UK capacity.
Putting the sticker is not enough, it has to be a significant production step by EU regulations, which still protect us from shady UK goods for now (just joking).
muzikman2008, 45 years ago I worked as a mechanic and was repairing a Volvo engine and needed piston rings, the piston rings were made in England and Volvo had to order them from England ship them to Sweden and then ship them to the UK. So nothing changes.
Can the volume be turned up on the continuity beep? Mines are awfully low .
No, it can't, you should get that looked at.
If using the single probe voltage indicator function, what would happen if you grabbed hold the roaming probe?
A shock from it is likely. The instructions warn against touching the probe ends when using it.
@@jwflame So caution must be exercised when checking for voltage using the single probe method.
I think the amount of current passing through the indicator is below 30 mA as other voltage indicators trip the 30 mA RCD when measuring between line and cpc, but this indicator doesn't.
Alvin Ashman I'm not sure it will actually as I have the t90 and it doesn't trip line to earth
Hello, John, I enjoy watching your videos and I have learned a lot from you, I have to thank you for that! I have a question for you. What would happen if I replace the AAA batteries with AAA rechargeable batteries in Fluke or other true RMS voltage tester like Benning digital duspol? Is there a problem if the standard AAA have 1.5v and rechargeable ones 1.2v? Thanck you, and have a greate and happy 2021!
Depends on the device, but if something is designed for 1.5V AA only, using rechargeable may cause problems. 1.2V is still within the usable range for an alkaline AA, but some devices may display 'low battery' even when fully charged or not use the full capacity available.
@@jwflame , I've found most batteries of any sort to be manufactured rubbish, however, Having used Varta batteries (I'm in no way affiliated with them), in the AA and AAA sizes, they hold a good charge and I use them in all of my test equipment, as in Duspol Expert, my Megger
and various other things, they are 1.25V per cell, fully charged but they seem to hold a charge longer than anything else I've ever used.
They are rechargeable Li-Ion btw.
Does it matter if you use the probes opposite way, poz to neg!
No, works the same either way. AC has no concept of positive and negative.
I received my new UK made T110, but I'm not really sure i like it.
- The cord is a lot longer, which isn't really an advantage, you still can't span a room with it and usually the points you're testing a very close together. I used to hang the cord around my neck while moving, but now the probes are hanging far too low near my knees. Also not great for storing it. The strain relief seems to do nothing as seen in John's video, it's very loosely on there
- The beeper now makes a a very chirpy/crackling/scratchy noise. Like there is some dust vibrating inside the beeper.
- The torxscrews are now covered and inaccessible (at least i hope they just put some plastic over there and it isn't plastic welded!)
-The two probes that slide and lock into each other at the right distance for a euro socket now weeble wobble and come loose easily. My previous one was a much nice friction fit. I will try and put some glue on there to tighten up the clearances
- I think it's now more sensitive and starts beeping earlier, both on continuity, when i touch both probes with my fingers and in detecting stray inductive voltages with one probe. It sometimes just randomly beeps at me when i touch something with one probe
I think the cable will brake again...
I always have an old organ in my shop. You never know.
You're dating yourself there.
What is the benefit having one of these? other than having a normal multi meter?
There are two benefits. One has to do with safety, there is no range selector or different input sockets that would allow for operator mistake leading to no indication (or short in current range). Some places (esp. the UK) require that you prove dead with a device like that instead of a normal multi meter.
The other advantage is mechanical, they are compact and the indicator is attached to one of the probes, allowing convenient two handed operation. They are quicker to use and put away than a multimeter, and the fixed leads mean you always have the right probes attached (or the wrong ones, depending on your point of view).
I have both in my portable tool kit, and almost always use the tester when out and about, while I almost always use the DMM on the bench.
Another important point may be that very few DMMs have a single-lead voltage sensing function built in, which can be handy.
Fluke do make accessories for their multimeters such as straps, magnets and plastic hooks so that you can hang the meter up freeing both your hands to hold meter probes. And of course, most multimeters come with a stand.
One advantage of a (suitably rated good quality) multimeter is that you can use high quality fused test probes for testing on higher voltage systems. The company I work for uses this arrangement when live or dead testing on 650V AC systems.
@@Mark1024MAK Yea but up a lader to check a light fixture you sometimes discover all those attachments are of limited utility or take a lot of time to set up and you are looking away at the display rather than where you poke the pokey bits. Some meters have holders for a probe in the back so you can affix one to the meter itself, but you still need to wind up the leads, it's quite unwieldy, the LCD may then be tricky to read, etc. In my country it's not a problem you can use any meter and so I have for many years, but I still prefer the T150 tester for electrician type work these days.
I know a lot of electricians that use the Fluke T5. It's more like a DMM but I think it indicates voltage on any range setting with the red light so it should also meet the UK foolproof we-train-electricians-in-a-week regs. There is a 1000V version but only cat III, I expect there are other testers that would do 650V cat IV.
As a rule it seems the higher the voltage / energy the simpler the testers become. The transmission line guys just have some kind of long stick with a light inside.
stefantrethan - Yeah, of course not every item of test gear is suitable for every job. The T150 (and the other models in the same range) have advantages for some tasks. You don’t want to be messing about when working off a ladder. You get the most appropriate tool for the job. The multimeters we use are calibrated Fluke 287, as we also work on electronic and communications systems and also need to take current measurements. But these would be over the top for general electrical testing work on 110V/120V/220V/230V/240V/400V/415V systems.
does the UK have tools that the UL symbol on it?
UL is not a UK certification although almost everything we buy has it. We are cursed with the absolutely useless CE mark.
This Fluke hiccup must be costing them millions of pounds.
I have / had, two 150 units which I returned for replacement but, in the meantime was forced to buy a Kewtech as screwfix etc...did not have new Fluke units for sale. Fluke are doing a good thing recalling the, potentially, faulty units...however, it has cost me around £50.00 because of this. Should fluke compensate us for the inconvenience and additional costs incurred ...I wonder?
It'll say in some fineprint that they won't. The more practical thing would have been to get the replacements out there and have at least authorized fluke dealers exchange them on the spot.
Inet one
Innit, ennit , anit , internit, nitnit. 😲
All this to test voltage, I can say spending all that money is a rich man's folly, I simply attach a crok clip to the unit in question, the other end having unsheathed bare cable, which I tell the apprentice to hold, if he jumps, there maybe a potential, then I look for my Meter in the van, I ain't walking to the van unless I have to, also I do to want to dirty my meter, I spent my money on it, if not, unphased, I, find the voltage, then repeat, darn kid needs to make himself useful, which is not evident, therefore it is incumbent on me to make him so, it's not cruel, if I was so inclined, I would tell him to take a shoe off, the left one, then tell him to hold it with his left hand, kids these days, cry over nothing, in my day......
This is so funny that I got my neighbour to come round and read it, your an absolute legend im gonna laugh as soon as i can
@@nuzzi7794 I had a kid once, I had to train, his father told him, if you don't get electrocuted, you cannot be a proper electrical guy, so he was going to have a zap of an 220 v ac power socket, by putting a metal rod into the earth shutter , then put a rusty screw driver in the hot side, I saw him doing it, when I had a blast at him, he told me why he wanted a bolt also had the cheek to tell me to stop shouting, I told him, the bigger the bolt the better the electrical worker you shall be, so how about holding onto 2 of the 3 phases on the incomer, he could do so easily by using the tails, it was just before lunch time, so I left to get to greggs before the dinner time que, when I got back after, the kid did not turn up, after lunch, so I had to pull cable myself, ungrateful sod, you give him a chance ( after sleeping with his mother) this is the thanks you get, another case of millennials being weak little cry babies, I blame the parents...... Got a call from the hospital, saying the kid was admitted in the hospital, must have got food poisoning at lunch I guess, I told the nurse or whoever the woman was, to tell him, its half a days pay for you, you skutter, she started crying and mumbling something, so I put the phone down, she must have been a millennial, the worst thing about it, is it sounds bollocks, truth is stranger than fiction,
I filled in the online form on the 1st November I'm still waiting for the return packing to return my T110 Tester. Considering the Danger to life I would say this is very poor service, not impressed with Fluke at all.
They send a shipping label by email.
Just received an E.mail John Stating low stocks but as yet no mention of return shipping label mate.
(6:22) - The diode check not a particularly useful function?
Sir!
You could not be more wrong if you said it wasn't a function at all.
I am hurt Sir.
Grievously wounded.
I hope you respond, because I am made too ill to go into any detailed defence and you surely understand that the burden of explanation is yours?
Please Sir,
I invite you...
Electrical installations do not usually contain diodes, so a diode check on a voltage indicator is unlikely to be used.
John Ward - A diode test may be useful in some industrial work where transformer rectifier sets are used to provide DC supplies. But where there is no need for the other features that a good multimeter provides.
@@jwflame Good point.
So what you actually meant, or should have said was: "the diode check is not a particular useful function for this particular tool taking into account it's primary purpose."
Or some such waffle.
Thank you so much for your reply.
Bodragon a
These diode testing facility is only for low voltage one, it won’t test high voltage ones!!