Thank you for your explanations Gary! I would've loved if I could be fortunate enough to find the same kind of video on my Polini ignition model from the early 2000's since the package came without instrucciones guide. It cost me 490€ (about 600$), it's an electronic ignition that produces electricty to the headlights and has just 1 map.All this time I've been thinking that probably there's no need for making the same measurements and procedures we see you doing in your video since it's such a basic ignition and the ONLY marking there is on the rotor is for the SPARK. Obviously there's a keeway recess as wel and the stator plate is also sloted for tweeking the ignition time...Can you give me some advice on how to properly set this ignition? Ty👍.
I notice in the Malossi instructions it says rotate clockwise to TDC, zero, and keep rotating clockwise to 1.55mm... Is the language in the manual wrong?
@@bp-tuningaeroxlc-dd6474 That's what it says in the manual word for word. it says continue to rotate clockwise. 🤷 configured as such TDC lines up with a little notch between a and b. A lines up roughly at BDC from what I can tell, and obviously. so there are three units of metrology that line up if you do it as outlined in the manual, but only one if done as outlined here. mind that it's a digital ignition, and I really have no idea when the CDI sends spark in relation to those marks. managing it like it's an analog PVL style doesn't necessarily make sense. The rotor markings only make sense in context with how the digitronic CDI sends spark. I know that generally it would be done exactly as outlined here. but again, the instructions, at least an English, say to continue rotating clockwise.
@@FremontidaeScott sorry for the length of my text... 😃 yes I read it myself. but I think so because the difference between whether it should stand at 1.55 BTDC (B) I have to use the brand that is next to B on the Roteen. and if you have to have a deep setting with TDC & BTDC 4.05, then I think it's something completely different, I have to set my Malossi mk2 ignition on my Yamaha Aerox, the setting has to be 1.55 BTDC (Minarelli) and I have to use the letter B on the root to set it to 1.55. BTDC and also not in The malossi manual how to set the ignition on my minarelli yamaha aerox engine ... it only says the way you describe, the way I have to use is not written.. because I have to turn the piston all the way to the Top and just before the piston starts to go the opposite way, I have to hold the piston there and then reset my micrometer and put it in the two-piece and otherwise make sure it makes contact with the piston. so now I know where the zero point is on the piston, I also turn the piston back now in the engine and set my micrometer to 1.55, I also turn the piston towards the top again until it touches my micrometer and then I put my Rotor on the crankshaft now that it fits as much as possible next to the Mark ( B) and the line it should be next to. so fine, I now adjust the last piece so that the entire ignition is set correctly. that's the way i'm supposed to do it...and it's not written anywhere that's how i'm supposed to do it....so i'm sure the malossi manual only alludes to how to set their ignitions on their own malossi engine that is made for the Piagio and Minarelli models, I don't think it is described how to set the ignition on a completely original Minarelli engine ... so the text etc. you write about I don't think it means It is a PVL, because it the way I have to set my engine is exactly the way that selektra should be done, the exact same way of setting it as italkit and the selektra too... if you look at the stage6 R/T ignition and the Polini ignition, they are both PVl types, and the rotors are similar, if you look at the rotor on the Malossi mk2 ignition and italkit, they are VERY similar and if you put polini & stage6 R /T The rotor up next to the italkit and malossi mk2, the rotors don't look like each other at all... so if you now compare the stage6 R/T ignition Rotor with the malossi mk2 Rotor then tell me which type of the two Rotor is most similar to a Selektra
you showed us how to take off flywheel f2 , but with what tool do you take off the mini rotor(incase you want to later) ? im stuck i cant take mine out
You may loose or you may not, it depends on the type of ignition you purchase,the most expensive ones are the most advanced which in time make the most power of all and offer quite a few tweek options just like the one in the video.Normally the cheaper electronic ignition models are sold with light producing coils but not all though,you should carefully search them out on the internet. Regardless not all is bad,these less powerful units allow one to safely ride the scooter on the road whether it be during the day or night still with a faster acceleration than the one given by the original flywheel while keeping us from being fined by the p🙂p🙂 too.
It's not a PVL system as you say in the video... if you have a company that wants to sell this product, it would be really good if you could relate to what type of products you are talking about... I say this here because it can damage your engine if you set it as a PVL system because they have to set in completely different numbers compared to the Selettra system, therefore I think it is important to say it is a Selettra system, have you experienced PVL systems must set between ( TDC 1.43 - 1.55 - 4.0 4.05 ) you say the correct numbers to be used for setting TDC but you say it is the PVL system.. Anyone who sees this did not see the pvl system. But it is the Selettra system..
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So you take the keyway out correct?
Thank you for your explanations Gary! I would've loved if I could be fortunate enough to find the same kind of video on my Polini ignition model from the early 2000's since the package came without instrucciones guide. It cost me 490€ (about 600$), it's an electronic ignition that produces electricty to the headlights and has just 1 map.All this time I've been thinking that probably there's no need for making the same measurements and procedures we see you doing in your video since it's such a basic ignition and the ONLY marking there is on the rotor is for the SPARK. Obviously there's a keeway recess as wel and the stator plate is also sloted for tweeking the ignition time...Can you give me some advice on how to properly set this ignition? Ty👍.
I’m working on a 1981 maico 490 and need a new ignition that pvl do make for it , do you know anything about this ?
I notice in the Malossi instructions it says rotate clockwise to TDC, zero, and keep rotating clockwise to 1.55mm... Is the language in the manual wrong?
What are you trying to say with this?
think you are misunderstanding the manual...
@@bp-tuningaeroxlc-dd6474 That's what it says in the manual word for word. it says continue to rotate clockwise. 🤷
configured as such TDC lines up with a little notch between a and b. A lines up roughly at BDC from what I can tell, and obviously. so there are three units of metrology that line up if you do it as outlined in the manual, but only one if done as outlined here.
mind that it's a digital ignition, and I really have no idea when the CDI sends spark in relation to those marks. managing it like it's an analog PVL style doesn't necessarily make sense. The rotor markings only make sense in context with how the digitronic CDI sends spark.
I know that generally it would be done exactly as outlined here. but again, the instructions, at least an English, say to continue rotating clockwise.
@@FremontidaeScott
sorry for the length of my text... 😃
yes I read it myself.
but I think so because the difference between whether it should stand at 1.55 BTDC (B) I have to use the brand that is next to B on the Roteen. and if you have to have a deep setting with TDC & BTDC 4.05, then I think it's something completely different,
I have to set my Malossi mk2 ignition on my Yamaha Aerox, the setting has to be 1.55 BTDC (Minarelli) and I have to use the letter B on the root to set it to 1.55. BTDC
and also not in The malossi manual how to set the ignition on my minarelli yamaha aerox engine ...
it only says the way you describe, the way I have to use is not written..
because I have to turn the piston all the way to the Top and just before the piston starts to go the opposite way, I have to hold the piston there and then reset my micrometer and put it in the two-piece and otherwise make sure it makes contact with the piston. so now I know where the zero point is on the piston, I also turn the piston back now in the engine and set my micrometer to 1.55, I also turn the piston towards the top again until it touches my micrometer and then I put my Rotor on the crankshaft now that it fits as much as possible next to the Mark ( B) and the line it should be next to. so fine, I now adjust the last piece so that the entire ignition is set correctly.
that's the way i'm supposed to do it...and it's not written anywhere that's how i'm supposed to do it....so i'm sure the malossi manual only alludes to how to set their ignitions on their own malossi engine that is made for the Piagio and Minarelli models, I don't think it is described how to set the ignition on a completely original Minarelli engine ... so the text etc. you write about I don't think it means It is a PVL, because it the way I have to set my engine is exactly the way that selektra should be done, the exact same way of setting it as italkit and the selektra too...
if you look at the stage6 R/T ignition and the Polini ignition, they are both PVl types, and the rotors are similar, if you look at the rotor on the Malossi mk2 ignition and italkit, they are VERY similar and if you put polini & stage6 R /T The rotor up next to the italkit and malossi mk2, the rotors don't look like each other at all...
so if you now compare the stage6 R/T ignition Rotor with the malossi mk2 Rotor then tell me which type of the two Rotor is most similar to a Selektra
Shall we match b with b when the piston is up or when it is at the bottom?
you showed us how to take off flywheel f2 , but with what tool do you take off the mini rotor(incase you want to later) ? im stuck i cant take mine out
There is a special one for it,just search for selettra rotor extractor
www.gforcemx.com/collections/drr-apex-performance-parts/products/6011651
where I can get a gauge that you put in the cylinder head can give me a link
www.gforcemx.com/collections/drr-apex-performance-parts/products/igndi
Do you lose lighting coil with these ignitions?
You may loose or you may not, it depends on the type of ignition you purchase,the most expensive ones are the most advanced which in time make the most power of all and offer quite a few tweek options just like the one in the video.Normally the cheaper electronic ignition models are sold with light producing coils but not all though,you should carefully search them out on the internet. Regardless not all is bad,these less powerful units allow one to safely ride the scooter on the road whether it be during the day or night still with a faster acceleration than the one given by the original flywheel while keeping us from being fined by the p🙂p🙂 too.
This is not the PVL, but it is the selettra team 2. The PVL is of polini.
The Team 2 is PVL, *not* Selettra.
Its is Selektra
It's not a PVL system as you say in the video... if you have a company that wants to sell this product, it would be really good if you could relate to what type of products you are talking about...
I say this here because it can damage your engine if you set it as a PVL system because they have to set in completely different numbers compared to the Selettra system, therefore I think it is important to say it is a Selettra system, have you experienced PVL systems must set between
( TDC 1.43 - 1.55 - 4.0 4.05 )
you say the correct numbers to be used for setting TDC but you say it is the PVL system..
Anyone who sees this did not see the pvl system. But it is the Selettra system..