Weird "love" hormone makes you hate THEM - Robert Sapolsky
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In this thought-provoking podcast excerpt, renowned neuroscientist Robert Sapolsky delves into the fascinating world of human behavior, focusing on the hormone oxytocin and its role in tribalism. Sapolsky explains how oxytocin, originally evolved for mother-infant bonding, has been repurposed throughout evolution to facilitate various forms of social connection - including, surprisingly, the bond between humans and dogs.
The discussion takes an intriguing turn as Sapolsky reveals the darker side of oxytocin: while it promotes prosocial behavior, it does so selectively, reinforcing tribal boundaries. Through examples of psychological experiments and neuroimaging studies, he illustrates how deeply ingrained our "us vs. them" mentality is, affecting even our unconscious neural responses to faces and pain of others.
Sapolsky's insights shed light on the biological roots of prejudice and discrimination, while also offering hope by demonstrating how malleable these tribal boundaries can be. This clip offers a unique perspective on the challenges we face in our increasingly diverse societies and the potential for overcoming our innate biases.
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Keywords: Robert Sapolsky, neuroscience, oxytocin, tribalism, evolution, human behavior, us vs them, prejudice, brain science, social bonding, unconscious bias, neuroimaging, psychology, social psychology, human-dog bond, empathy, racial bias, in-group preference, neural responses, social neuroscience
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Im fascinated by myself .I grew up as a baby in institutional care .I had zero attachment figures yet I have incredible empathy for all living creatures ,I feel incredible pain seeing anything vulnerable in pain ,even ants ,I dont want to harm them ,I cannot kill anything and I cry inside seeing homeless people .I often wonder why I am the way I am considering I had no family
You have empathy because you know what it's like to be in pain you can put yourself in someone else's shoes you are an empath cherish it it took me a long time to understand why I am the way I am I thought it was a curse but in actuality it's a special gift not many people truly have it takes pain to know pain unfortunately I have a friend that grew up in foster care and he is the kindest and most down to earth person I've met and he doesn't let that define him cherish what you are we are a small percent of the whole world and I believe it's special.
@@lizyearout8253 WOW thankyou for taking the time to reply to me ,I am grateful everyday that I have not become bitter ,I have felt envy at times but then as I got older I recognised ho fortunate I am to know how to feel grateful for having a roof over my head and to not be in pain .I watch so many suffer over the smallest of issue that wouldn't bother me in the slightest and I have my childhood to thank for that .I only wish I didnt feel so much suffering ,I could never travel from Australia because I wouldn't be able to see animals treated badly from sheer poverty ,nor could I cope with seeing people .children and th sick homlesss ,I want to help them all and I cannot and it hurts my heart ,all I can do is talk to them and offer money if I have it ,it doesn't seem nearly enough .I do have some PTSD so I cant start any organisations ect ,I do volunteer and im a sponsor for people in drug addiction .Its not that I know what is best for them because I dont I just wish they weren't suffering so very much
@@lizyearout8253it’s special and I’m one too. It’s a double edge sword though around evil people so be careful
My sister’s psychologist said that when you feel pain because you see like someone’s suffering, you mourn (or pity, I’m not native English speaker) yourself in the first place. Suffering of others triggers your suffering too. Of course we need to be emphatic to others, but sometimes we pity someone who we consider unhappy, but they are pretty fine. I remember one conversation with old lady, my distant relative. I asked her how she overcomes her loneliness, because she doesn’t have husband and children. She said «my dear girl, I’ve always wanted to be alone and free! I have so much friends, I live a life full of activities, travelling and sports! If I could live my life again I wouldn’t change anything.»
@@Portia620yea we seem to be NARC magnets. It’s taken me 60 years to learn the red flags of a narc
I watched a documentary about babies, they tested the babies "morality". They showed a puppet that liked the same snacks as the baby and one that didn't. The babies sided with puppet that liked the snacks, and empathized when they were punished (beaten) or saved, and the opposite for the other puppet. They said this showed the babies don't develop "morality" and need to be taught it. This showed me that they are team based for survival.
That doesn’t prove that at all lmao. It didn’t come from nowhere. It’s completely natural
That is not quite correct. The foundations of morality are in our hard-wiring that gives us empathy-- which is what you are seeing in the baby-- and inclinations towards compassion and altruism. Moral development and growth expands that circle of, in this case, puppets that elicit that. Check out "Kohlberg's Stages of Moral Development".
@@nsbd90now That's the point , there is biological morality and imagined morality
And the imagined morality grows with the cortex and the temporary sound based reality's (words)
But the Biological morality will always take over when it FEELS it has to
@@KevinMannix-sf5zk A totally bizarre and pseudo-intellectual use of the word "imagined". Nothing "takes over"-- it is a complex dynamic of various forces and interactions.
@@nsbd90now imagined defines the total purpose and meaning of the cortices,
The more important part of you the lower brain is only ever real , but it can change what appears in the reality that your cortex imagines its self
Hence why we call the cortices the sound focused Brain as the Maya
This is a compelling explanation for why people adopt the composure and traits of people they surround and identify with.
Idk about all of this, it makes no sense unless all is predetermined. Otherwise, oxytocin is the result of bonding, and not bonding is the result of oxytocin flooding the brain. So which is it, do we bond and feel good and the good feeling is produced as oxytocin, or does oxytocin bond us and we're just on a train track of wherever these chemicals lead.
It removes consciousness from the equation when you speak entirely chemical, and sure when mixing chemicals in a lab you don't have to deal with unified consciousness but when someone applies the lab thinking to consciousness it's, half-witted. You cannot purely materialize everything about the immaterial, as much as we'd like to turn everything into a measurable science because of where grant money pushes.
Ive heard it described as not “love” but “in-group/out-group defining.” And that oxytocin production can be activated by ostracizing someone and ejecting them from a group.
IT controls how the machine that you imagine your imaginary sound based self in
IF the machine has no oxytocin all the words say "I want to DIE"
If you overload the machine with oxytocin all the words say " everything is so perfect and beautiful"
It controls every aspect of your existence that you imagine happens
In New England, there are people who are prejudiced if you are drinking coffee from Starbucks, and they are Dunkin Donuts people, and vice versa. I thought of it as some kind of snobbery, but maybe it’s deeper and more tribal, like it’s a marker of whether you are a threat if you are from the Starbucks clan instead of Dunkin clan. Same thing with Red Sox vs Yankees fans. These are deeper divisions here than religion or whether you come from a different state.
Wouldn’t it be like different social circles and neighborhoods? Esp poor vs non-poor in this case
People who have never suffered truly but are in a lot of pain think that way
"The cola wars are responsible for 80% of violent crime in the U.S."
- Albert Einstein
I don’t trying these are deeper divisions…lolll I grew up in mass no way dude. That’s surface level petty bs.
@@ericalexanderson3442I don’t know bout dat- sometimes it seems more serious than religious and political arguments, in New England, at least! Especially the baseball piece. I try not to take sides, lol.
Now That Is interesting and it confirms my suspicion that anything that makes you feel conditionally good comes at a cost
I guess Oxytocin is pretty good at making us not want to abandon each other while eat our children. 😂
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Cannibalism was prevalent in most parts of the world. Any guesses where it wasn't? 🤗
@@Anon1gh3Europe? Cuz i hace bad news for you
Love love seeing Robert Sapolsky but I wish someone would buy him a new webcam and microphone!
A lot of the times these low quality videos have the most beneficial information
@@user-vp9xn3wb7v Absolutely... and I'm sure the video & audio quality is the furthest thing from his mind, but it does help expose his ideas to a larger audience to make it quality.
All his audio is like this his voice coming through clear would seem off
This explains elitism and narcissism too
Elitism I might understand but not narcissism. Can you explain?
Narcissists don't seem to offer love, aka oxytocin events. They seem to seek love from others without reciprocating, usually because of dopamine dependence, or imbalance.
This leads to very common outbursts, usually towards people who love them.
At a milder rate, they offer up things for the sake of codependent reciprocity, and not out of a genuine bond growth. Most commonly sexual relationships, but also career and personal ones.
@@DavidJohnson-1423 victims (of narcissists) have outbursts too
@user-zu1ix3yq2w Victims are often narcissistic themselves, I'm not saying it's mutually exclusive, more often they attract eachother.
Some people who aren't narcissistic have outbursts, and some of them are victims, but its not routine for them.
That person you know will likely get upset at you for anything you say is a narcissistic.
The person who will likely blow up on you for a bad joke is likely just a victim.
The former learned to feed off the negativity because loving people pour love in to them as a response, often a mother.
The latter simply learned that it's okay to react like that because of what they were victim to.
It's a good point to distinguish though 👍
@@DavidJohnson-1423
OK. Narcissists seem to get upset if you say anything that isn't wanted or doesn't show submission. Otherwise, it's fairly normal for people to have issues with love/family.
No idea how you distinguish BPD from NPD just from outbursts though.
Hate is the shadow of love. I hate that which threatens to destroy that which I love. You will not make me turn my back on my family or my people.
Okay..
Trump 2024 🇺🇲
Any sensible person knows that without a deadly hatred for that which threatens what you love, love is nothing more than a buzzword for hippies and communists and... Well, I think you know the rest.
@@user-vp9xn3wb7v wake up
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I’ve been waiting to hear the dog’s perspective.
"May we be free from attachment to loved ones and rejection of others, and rest in boundless equanimity." Buddhist prayer.
Nice. Which one?
@@eniggma9353 "May all sentient beings have happiness & the cause of happiness.
May they be free from suffering & the cause of suffering.
May they never separate from the sublime happiness which is without suffering.
May they be free from attachment to loved ones and rejection of others, and rest in boundless equanimity."
So you're against love and family?
@@trianglesandsquares420Who? The writer of this Buddhist prayer?
@@trianglesandsquares420 No, it's more a matter of dismantling the hierarchy of importance and perceived value - which always has the self at the top (even if we don't like ourselves!). It is a challenging notion :)
Cool to see a video convering this topic so correctly !
It's rare !
Great for people information and reducing ignorance.
Hormones are an amazing thing and a bit scary :D I am pregnant, baby can be born any day now and this explains a lot of my sudden moods (I tend to monitor myself, mood and behavior more closely, because of therapy and previous issues, so it is fascinating to see how my mind is literally altered for the time being, because of hormones :D I am not taking any medication since the start of pregnancy - with doctor´s blessing and guidance ofc - so I have it "raw" so to speak :D)
You had it raw twice so to speak LMAO
I'd call it 'pure'...
Congratulations children are very beautiful
@@andreahighsides7756Nice one 😊
You'll be Fine, just have a Few Beers, Smoke some Cigarettes, Punch your Belly a Few Times, and Relax...
Robert Sapolsky is one of the best lecturers I’ve ever had the pleasure of watching..
Not that oxytocin makes you think someone is better than another, only that person will matter more to you. Of course, then, many people do take this to another level, jumping from their feelings to the notion that person is better. That's because most people probably, the moment someone or something matters to them, they start looking for reasons to favor what matters to them over what doesn't. It's default human psychology in action, which only a properly educated intelligence will be aware of and keep under control.
Why do you need to keep it under control? Because it's a "natural" thing? Obviously, we're all aware that people are generally equal, but doesn't everyone need someone to think they're great and wonderful?
@@trianglesandsquares420 , you need to keep it under control because otherwise you are left with these two options: 1) to remain a species of small groups of primates forever at war, where everything revolves around your group prevailing over other groups, and trying to prevail within your group; 2) to remain a species of large populations of primates organized around the struggle/war between groups to prevail within society, and try to prevail over neighboring societies. That's pretty much what our evolution has been for the last million years or so. Not changing course, not learning to behave much differently so far, is what got us here, on the brink of collapse and extinction, or else of global totalitarian dystopia and evolution into an insect-like social animal. You need to think what it is to be human, and what you want it to be. If you want to remain human but at the same time survive as a species and maybe even enjoy some level of civilization, you then want us to learn to live as social animals that put common good above F&F narrow interests.
@@nomcognom2414 Obviously you missed the middle of my response.
@@nomcognom2414 Obviously you missed the middle of my reply.
@@trianglesandsquares420 , sorry but you will have to make your point even more obvious for me to understand it.
That’s a beautiful evidence against the argument “Nature always has the wisest answers”. Becoming human is not about excusing our prejudices using science and hormones, but understanding what we must overcome to transcend animality inside through ethics and true morality.
Why should we overcome our animility? We are animals. It's like overcoming your urge to drink water when you're thirsty. Instead we should embrace the animal and listen to what it truly wants.
To what extent should we be transcending our true nature is another question. Because running in the opposite direction and denying it or refusing to respect it isn't healthy or helpful either.
@@laaaliiiluuu When I was a child, my father raised baby birds. When the new ones hatched, my mother said we should separate the male. My father said: leave it alone, Nature is wise. As a result, the baby bird died because the male killed it so he could continue mating with the female. She also almost died of starvation. The only reason she didn't die was because my father understood that not everything that is "natural" is good, functional or wise. We have to use our cognitive, intellectual and moral faculties to guide us and to serve Nature.
@@finalthoughts2762Denying, refusing, repressing is completely different from transcending. Transcending consciously is similar to Jung’s incorporation of the shadow, or Freud’s use of intelligence to deal with contents of our unconscious mind. It’s through wisdom, not fanaticism nor asceticism. It’s a wise use of free will, based on daily empirical and scientific evidence of cause-effect relationships.
@@finalthoughts2762that’s biased. What we sometimes call “our true nature” might be just the influence of chemical substances (hormones, drugs, or just sugar :) ) in our bodies, not our true nature. Are we our bodies? Or even our minds?
I've tried to explain before that hate and love are not mutually exclusive but people really don't like that...
Love & fear can be opposites. Hate is almost a stronger "caring" than love, I'd call "indifference" the opposite of hate.
@@AG-iu9lvindifference would be the opposite of love.
Love has no opposite, not even always an object. Most refer to love but talk about attraction or bonds based on deals, including habit providing security, regardless of the actual level of safety provided.
@annelbeab8124 please, go on...
@tmjewel thx, happy to go further into it and hear your thoughts.
There is nothing wrong with 'deals' between people. The issue is: we see all as a trade. History shows that this is an acquired taste rather than a default setting. Trade is the most narrow, linear way to connect.
If I connect as such, I will see everybody else's interests as natural as mine and seek for a balance. Not the forced balance out of haggling.
As long as we see the world as a place of wins and losses, we will be mentally in a bipolar swing state and we will be most interested in short term gains, even if we destruct mid and long term.
This planet is a place of transformation, not of linear, exponential growth.
If we feel we can be more or less psychologically, we will always try to get more and better. And how do we measure both ? That's sometimes quite unclear, especially in close relationships.
So we set ourselves up for insecurity, frustration, disappointment, and eruption of anger.
True love would be tradefree. But we would still register and realise if somebody is not able to truly love. And then you adapt or rather the level and trustworthiness of the relationship automatically lowers itself.
Relationships are reciprocal. If one side is limiting the frequency, then it's shallow.
What an amazing insight and reality of our inner mechanism ...💯❤️
So is it more accurate to say oxytocin is the "us against the world hormone"?
Sounds like it's a loyalty hormone. What would be the point of a hormone that makes you nicer with no other evolutionary benefits?
He said it, it makes mum stay with baby and baby with mum , its not an IDEA
This would seem to indicate that first comes the choice to love, then comes the love. Who indices oxytocin production is whoever provides utility.
I believe they call this "pragma" in some cultures.
He said it, It makes Mum stay with baby and baby with mum they are addicted to each other, Since like the eggs that got laid , dropped to a certain number
Imagine the tipping point, the biology is getting complex, so the eggs get bigger, so you cant lay thousands of eggs to avoid extinction
So you now have to make Mum stay with the eggs and the babies and vice versa
@@KevinMannix-sf5zk she has to discern which ones are her babies and the babies have to discern which one is their mother.
Oxytocin is like . . . alcohol. It impairs or enhances aspects of your judgement, but it can't make you judge. And the judgement comes first, which is why you can hate out-group members despite being under its influence.
@@IAmBeingSilenced Judgement is oxytocin, in the first instance, after that its all imaginary nonsense imagined in the sound focused delusion machine called a cortex
I cant release oxytocin , other than sex,
Can you comprehend this ?
This means I have no judgement, I just make it all up as I go along,
I have no attachment , I just know detachment, therefore I have no judgment to make, because its all detached
The only way for me to care enough about anything to make a choice is to make me release oxytocin
and every women is just a sex object
Your knowledge is very poor and fixated on not seeing the truth
Oxytocin controls your magnetic field, not the LEFT PFC or the emotional bag of wind
so all emotions still have range, all thought still has range, wither you have some in your system or not
So "your barking up the wrong tree" with that cortex response to oxytocin
E.g. 2 men fight that release oxytocin when they touch each other, which slowly stops the fight and tries to prevent death for either, but with the oxytocin in your system you still fight the other person in a flash measurement
But the real key is why does mum release the biggest release of oxytocin when she is giving birth ? if you answer that i might teach you more, (its not in google, google just repeats the collective illusion cause by reading and writing)
Great interview! I love Dr. Sapolsky. I wish you much success with your channel. I will stop by and watch more of your videos!
Do I jump on the track, why should I push some other person?
This is love.
Wow! That was such a levelling and informative interview! Thank you 🙏🏽
From my own observation: I get a feeling of disgust and pain an complete helplesness whenever I see someone suffering, even an animal. That empathy has nothing to do with race!!! And I dont consider myself to be rare in that regard. But of course I feel much worse when someone I love gets hurt. I dont really see this as a problem though, as anyone who is close to me is of higher value than someone whome I dont know. I dont feel more sad for someone who is my own race though, I feel equally horrible for any human and vertabrew animal, not just animal anything that is subject to suffering. I for instance could not kill an animal randomly, only maybe if I was starving to death (and even here it is unclear), I could only see myself killing someone in case of pure self defense (I can see that desperation with bugs which I often dont intend to kill but the moment they move I get scared to death), but even there I would try to avoid it as much as possible and it might be my instincts taking over. But i wouldntt feel good about it. I think considering another race as "the other" is more a boomer thing and or prevelent in homogenous societies. Eventhough I am white, I always fell in love with non white dudes and for the most part dont even see that they are not the same race as I am. If someone cant speak english or german well, and is from a completly different cultural background, including different ways of interacting than I consider them to be different but only if they are people who keep high distance like for instance a relgious muslim would not give me his hand as I am a woman and treat me lesser, yes that way there would be too many boundaries and I would not feel in tears for his loss, but that doesnt mean I would want him to die or feel pain. If you would ask me though if i can choose for one person to be a live my boyfriend (who is indian) and a dude whome I barley know from the middle east, I surley would choose my boyfriend. If you would ask me to choos between my broth and my boyfriend I already couldnt choose anymore, maybe run to towards my boyfriend due to instincts but I could logically just not choose him over my brother. If I had to choose between my babby and my boyfriend I would choose my boyfriend. I think it always comes to who is the closest person to you and you will choose the closest ones over anyone who isnt as close. Obviously someone I dont know is less on my radar and I wont care as much. I can still feel very sorry for someone and I can still be against anyone having to suffer. If I had to choose between my baby and my friends baby i wouldnt even have to think about it and choos my baby. I dont consider that to be weird or morally questionable as ideally everyone has a mother who would choose their children over anyone maybe except their husband and a father who chooses his family over anything and sacrifices himself. If one is an orphan or doesnt have parents like that it is the sad part that everyone pities them for.
White privilege is not having to live around blacks.
Its like anxiety can be useful to progress.... spo no emotion is completelly bads
John Delony said anxiety is alarm system giving you feedback.
probably other emotions have similar function.
We are animals.
Do you actually have a baby? Because if you are just talking hypothetically you don’t know. When you have a baby you would choose your baby over everything no matter what. And it’s oxytocin that makes that impulse so intense. I know from experience.
?. All of you people are just weird.
Oxytocin is the attachment hormone.
That said, it is more neurologically complex than Sapolsky describes here. I am certain he knows all of the nuance, but this is a simplistic overview.
He is disingenuous. We are evolved to prioritise family and ‘in group’ over the ‘out group’, for reasons of survival. Animals do the same. Leftists like Sapolsky prioritise the ‘out group’ because virtue signalling to their peers affords them social status. Hence, ‘Qu**rs for Palestine’. It makes no evolutionary sense, since we know how Hamas views homosexuality, but it gives them virtue signalling kudos.
Nope, you just want to imagine there are more vital things involved, there are not
The humans that don't release oxytocin, (severe trauma response) , take a position that you cannot alter with sound/words/language
the only way to help them is to help them release oxytocin , the rest is just nonsense in comparison
One of the best titled videos on UA-cam.
One thing about your actions not mentioned in the trolley problems, is that the 'pjusher' is subject to a murder charge if caught. This is never mentioned.
Of course, the 'trolley problem', is a very unusual situation. How does one find themselves in that situation in real life? In thinking about this the only way I would do that kind of thing, is if it involved saving the life of a family member. But I think most people would. Like survival instinct kicks in.
I had 4 children and nursed them a year or more and felt this Oxytocin a lot...but I was also a public spirited soul and reached out...usually taking my children along. I don't remember a moment of what you're talking about. I wanted to give them a good example as well. Today I take a grandson with me to give food to the homeless. People who give in to worshiping their own blood kin are actually hurting them...they deserve a better experience.
Loved hearing your interview
Insightful and amazing just how our hormones affect our minds 🎉🎉🎉
Bonding w/ the wrong bond also !
i love how it is a family hormone. It makes things right and keeping priorities properly. Who is close is treated as close who is not is treated with a proper distance. Thats natural and a great feature.
Europe falls apart because we lost it! Rome fell because they lost it too!
are there foods promoting its production? it would be humane to eat more of such things
@@szymonbaranowski8184 Sometimes I wonder if decades ago, chemical engineers knew what hormones did what things, and rigged the game that way.
@skylinefever Yes. I feel almost certain of that, atp. And they've simply been perfecting their craft all this time, to where now they have it down pat!
@@johnnydi2231 We gotta somehow have scientists and engineers that are on our side, and years ahead of the curve.
Perhaps we can have renegade neuroscience. People not working for cyberpunk corpos or nefarious government agencies will leave, and share the results with us.
@@skylinefever It's already this way. What do you think pharmaceutical companies are doing now.
Outsourcing child rearing and education to the state while destroying independent businesses for families and replacing it with employment by big companies is what destroyed bonding and families.
Daycare and school don't look particularly traumatizing but the effect is that teenage girls don't want to be mothers anymore, and young women only rediscover the need to start a family once it's too late for both men and women to catch up with the skills needed to start a simple relationship.
Hence the need to replace the White population with young people from cultures that don't know how to do kindergarten or big companies.
In-group/out-group
preferences are not at all exclusive to oxytocin. The brain lobe activation of fear of the “other” is not unique to whyyy peeepoh.
Thank you, Capt Obvious
He's a small hat.
Women tend to have oxy levels around 3× higher than men. Might this explain something about differences in social behaviors between the sexes?
Especially after intercourse. Which is a curse and leads to quick bonding.
They raise children. They spend more time with them. The higher levels are for that reason. Women are historically stuck with their children.
Most men have already bonded with you before sex. It’s more about how quickly you can sever a bond; it’s not advantageous for women to stay bonded with men no longer in their lives.
@@user-zu1ix3yq2w What? The healthiest relationships between men and women are founded on friendship.
@@annacroix I bet.
@@user-zu1ix3yq2w You write like you lost your soul. Or did most people lose their souls? Perhaps.
Buddhist temples in Sri Lanka… you can literally feel the oxytocin flooding the bodies of the devotees when you are there. The tranquility and the sense of belonging is overwhelming. It’s probably the same at Mecca, at Lourdes, Jerusalem and Tirupati, Palitana, BodhGaya…
Oxytocin is about cuddles and offense war with outgroups. Terror managment theory and polyvagal theory explains defense more.
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@@chuckiegravesfield3170 ?
Please say more
@@amanda4sss it’s more a groupiness binding hormone that allows groups to approach situations and naturally patient to them better in order to exploit them for better, as it affect there attention, and also creates a sort of implicit lead by example sort of leadership style that they just follow
Aye, and it is a groupthink molecule. Conformity is not virtue.
sometimes an improper judgement may cost you a life. when you think of it this way, those “prejudices” and “stereotypes” stop being completely irrational and actually start making sense. in other words, you’d rather be safe than sorry
Especially when it comes to protecting your children (and by extension this is how tribes form)
With the run-away-trolley scenario and moral choice, I think the best option would be to pretend you are deaf and blind; or look the other way as though some one had called your name or just run away. It is not your responsibility to make any sort of life/death decisions. The other alternative if you are some who suffers self loathing, is to jump in front of the run away trolley your self so that once dead, you would not know what happened to the other people.
The problem is the notion of oxytocin as a cause. It creates an absurd model. Obviously oxytocin is a molecule used in the process of pair bonding not the cause of it.
Its the cause, you can test this with the mice and humans that don't release oxytocin,
If you remove oxytocin then nothing attaches to each other in fact they become repulsive
They have no idea or gist of what Love is or even why we have to be nice to each other,
Its like the oxytocin is a switch , that changes a magnetic field , so magnets that attached now detach
@@KevinMannix-sf5zk Saying Oxytocin is the cause is like saying the letter that tells you that you succeeded at an interview and you got the job is the cause of you getting the job. If you make it so the letter can't be sent, you won't know you got the job and you won't go to work. But the letter isn't the reason you got the job. It's just the messenger. Same with Oxytocin.
@@shamanahaboolist That's just imagined word play, the biology is simple, without oxytocin you sit and die , Its all the meaning you can ever imagine,
Because without it you imagine nothing but your own death and the death of anyone that comes near you, if you truly "Knew Thyself" in every single biological apparatus and its meaning and purpose, you would probably comprehend that your a LEFT PFC worshipper, you know that one GOD, the LEFT PFC
So the point in word play is, without oxytocin you don't go to the interview, you don't even try
Don’t ever trust someone who tells you 5 people will live if you push someone on the train tracks (or a button or a lever). They are lying to you. Don’t put others in harms way.
We do it all the time with war etc. though
This explains the mysterious bond between gerbil and man.
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amazing.
i hope your channel grows rapidly!
frickin gorgeous! self selection! of self support, sorting of "what is like self" vs "what is less like self", just gorgeous!
And that is why we have to LEARN that all humans are equal, and we heave to teach our children that “them” also have feelings and thoughts, am I wrong?
We are in fact animals, who would instinctively protect out own kin, but we are also rational, moral beings… if we want to and if we put our efforts in it! AITA for saying that little children are probably not colourblind? It’s us who have to teach them to be!
@@simonanardi4312 colorblind is racism to the DEI consultant.
you're wrong. you cannot *teach* that all humans are equal. you must believe in it yourself. and believe not in words, but in actions. to live with different people, have friendship, sexual relations with them.
that means, all those colleges which *teach* that all humans are equal but at the same time have privileged homogenous fraternities/sororities are hypocrits.
All humans? And are we not animals who would instinctively mate and look for a mate?
Sometimes protecting the "others" could mean the demise of the "us." Every society has to find a balance between tribalism and agape. Being mortal means almost none of us will ever experience actual agape and equality. Hierarchy wins out in one form or another. Oxytocin, tribalism, and revolt eventually push back. That's part of why empires lose dominance after a while. It's near impossible to please multiple subcultures with clashing values trying to live together. That's why assimilation makes a difference. It keeps the peace for a while until there's change, again. You'll find that most people prefer a clique they fit into, in order to feel special and needed. Otherwise, people go off on their own which is usually a lonely path of rejection because in-groups are the norm. Not trying to share oxytocin and social norms results in ostracization (mild or blatant).
The modern solution is internet subcultures which are often too shallow to produce bonding and oxytocin. Our favorite echo chambers don't provide enough camaraderie in the end. We have to go out and find a tribe if we want to thrive. The cost is the rejection of outsiders and out-groups. The prize is belonging.
Most people are not rational. The average person is barely conscious.
Incredible and profound information. Thank you both. 🌻
Uh ... no! It isn't about oxytocin only. It is about "mirror neurons" and parts of brain, e.g. amygdala. Oxytocin has no meaning outside the system, and from a long biochemical experience of science, we ought to know that hormons are just signals in the language of the brain.
More variables involved! We are complex humans
@@rursus8354 plus there will be people who react differently to the same hormone. Jolly Heretic Dutton said that oxytocin was different for those he calls spiteful mutants.
Yes, and yes...more than ok.
@@rursus8354 yes
He talks about the Amygdala... You dont need to construct the system anytime you wanna talk about hormones.
Thanks professor. I understand more now.
Oxytocin makes you feel like you're bonded and in love. Not sire wtf this is.
Bonded in love with folks on the inside and more hostile to outsiders
@@benjaminholt6640I see this play out all the time with different in-groups and out-groups. Tribalism can be good, especially for minorities trying to grow or take over a larger group. It helps with patriotism or nationalism. The loss of tribalism and the increase in impersonal fake empathy is the peak of a society before it has another downfall. We are in this phase, in most western countries. That's probably why we are seeing increases in ideologies and tribalistic behaviors that start in social media echo chambers. It's just the pendulum swinging like it always does.
What I'd like to know is how it effects people who are socially isolated. No dogs, no family, no tribal connection to flag or pulpit. We know that isolated people are at risk of poor health but if you dose them up do they love themselves? Do they bond with inanimate objects? Do they become agoraphobic.
I always thought that either oxytocin or prolactin bonded you with your child while at the same time making you less tolerant of your partner, I think it may be worse than that though because I am sure that one of the two can cause bonding problems in certain people and its actually quite scary because the way I experienced it it can make you behave horribly to your partner and, if things didn't go right could in all probability make you horrible to your child. I never experienced any negative feelings to my children but the anger it engenders towards your partner, and I think its part of the maternal protective process, can end relationships completely. I don't have learned prejudices, I was brought up by parents who were very tolerant of other races and I can't imagine colour prejudices, however, although I live in London, I am Scottish and don't particularly like England but I don't hate the people, but at the same time I take pleasure in them losing at sports. That's the closest to racism I get.
The things that you say make me wonder where the separation is between I, as the one that experiences the experience, and the actual feeling of the experience itself. It's as if somehow the eye that perceives, expects certain sensory (chemical), cues to determine where the focus of attention should be whether empathy or fear or aggression etc .. and that the sensations themselves are cues. but there is somehow a buffer between my experience and my experiencing if that makes sense. All of these chemical changes happen as you live moment to moment. The eye for example, receives light, and chemical processes take place and the life behind that eye sees. There is substance inside of the substance we call air that gets carried into the olfactory nerves which creates a chemical reaction and we think of roses or garlic or cigars but none of it is really objectively experienced as it is. But only what we can receive from the environment. And that, we weave into an imagining of life with the rest of our senses adding more dimension to the experience. If there were some way I could perceive, to use this knowledge to help me overcome my own made up difficulties. Things that even though I might mentally grasp are lies and yet the sensations bind me somehow. The evidence seems to suggest there is in fact no free choice but then why make it so that I must either agree or disagree? If I have no choice then why should I feel guilt or dissatisfaction at lack of attainment or anything like that? Why is it that even though I have no choice I can still feel regret?
Hey, Robert. I tried emailing you but never got a response. A bit more than a decade ago, in some frosh lectures, you mentioned that political affiliation was 70% heritable. I put this together with Lakoff's observation that the Right has high xenophobia but also high in- group nurturance, which partially explains their political hegemony. Your mention of dogs causes me to think more; dogs allied with humans at least partially against wolves, who are cladistically closer. There may also be a confirming correlation with authoritarianism, even informally people say that humans can be putative pack-leaders for dogs. What are your thoughts?
I have more hypotheses related to how this may affect linguistic/cognitive _mental spaces,_ but I already have a repetitive stress injury from a chiclet keyboard, so I'll wait.
So the stronger that immigrants remain emotionally attached to the ethnicity of their country of origin the less likely they are to behave compassionately towards people from their host culture? Likewise people who have a strong connection to the traditional ethnicity of their home country are going to be less open and compassionate towards newcomers. Is that about right? I sure hope not or else high levels of immigration are almost doomed to ethnic conflict and hostility. Unless, it seems, we are able to create a national identity that brings us together regardless of identity, something that the multiculturalists seem loathe to do. In fact they do the opposite.
Multiculturalism is the megacorps wanting a nonstop supply of non union labor.
Or, we can stop pretending we're nothing more than our primal nature and use our intellect to mind our own business. I don't care what culture my neighbors practice and they don't care about me, as long as there's room for both of our cars in the driveway.
@@luna-ppretty myopic
@@elkpants1280 I don't even know what point you're trying to make, since you were so vague. But I'll say I'd rather live next to a foreigner who came here to escape an oppressive system, than someone born here who's trying to impose one upon me. I'm also a product of two drastically different cultures and the only conflict between them was the amount of spices in the food. What destroyed my family is universal across nearly all cultures, and most certainly propped up and perpetuated in America: religion and patriarchy.
@@luna-p false dichotomy
Thank you for this video
Right. So dont follow your feelings. Do what is right and healthy.
“The European frenzy about that”, is this a gew deconstructing in group preferences for everyone else?
This needs to be shared everywhere.
This is really significant.
Oxytocin controls how the machine that you imagine your imaginary sound based self in FEELS
If the machine has no oxytocin all the words that appear in your mind say "I want to DIE"
If you overload the machine with oxytocin all the words in your mind say " everything is so perfect and beautiful"
It controls every aspect of your existence that you imagine happens
As an autistic, it's really difficult to tell if the person I'm being nice to, is safe....like 80% of the time. Also, trauma and anxiety complicates my interactions further. I dunno, this was fascinating, but rather unrelatable.
Stands to reason dark skin people would similarly react negatively to a police officer in the same way a police officer reacts to a dark skinned person
I react extremely negatively to police. I’ve heard too many of them speak. I know how they operate. I’ve seen them lie on police reports, express their goals to harm completely innocent groups of people. I’ve seen them throw innocent people in jail and collude with the prosecution. And I know what’s driving them because I’m also a man. They’re also very tribal.
It’s natural for dark skinned ppl to be afraid of cops, even without racial hatred. American sheriffs/police are genuinely dangerous people you should avoid and keep out of your homes and family matters.
The thing about names is interesting. I'm American and live in Los Angeles, so Dirk, Otto, and Mohammed are all equivalently familiar names to me. I'm no more or less likely to push a John or Jack on the tracks as I am a Carlos or a Topanga. However, I must admit that when I saw this channel was named "Najid El Mokhtari" I wondered if I had my VPN set to a middle eastern country for a second. So there's that!
Knowing that information that we are all naturally "racist", it makes more sense to stay segregated for the protection of the other.
The USA tried segregation. It went badly, and we still haven't fully recovered as a nation. Let's not forget world history. When we stop people from contributing to society, it always ends in a collapse of some sort. It is slow and hard to track. That's why as education increases, segregation decreases. We share 99.99 % DNA as a species. We are all on the same team. We simply need to take that extra 5 seconds to respond to each other. Rather than reacting blindly.
"The original situation" is the situation where the love between man and woman in the people is intact, and where true brotherhood and sisterhood is also intact. A good example is the Trobriand people, where a significant remnant of the original situation could be found, probably due to fortunate circumstances, Tahiti is another, due to their isolation they returned to something closer to the original mode of humanity. Hell is other peoples, one could say. Hence, "the curse of multiculturalism", which destroys the "Love in the People", and creates "the situation in the Middle East", the situation of South America also, with its immense hatred and violence, misogany and misandry. Other peoples could be introduced to the tribe, through blood brotherhood, but then the whole tribe would have to agree. In theory two tribes could mix without problem, if they both existed in the original innocent state. But with different levels of cultural development and different levels of "fallenness", then tribemixing could cause problems and undermine the love in the peoples.
In the original "innocent" tribes the original mode of sexuality which Wilhelm Reich discovered, "the loving embrace between man and woman", existed. It seems to me to be a kind of "proto tantric sex", leading to an extacy of love, that wich tantric sex derived from. A love that can be shared in the people without jealousy, which cultivates further love. We came from bonobo like ancestors. When the curse of multi culturalism is activated, the love between man and woman in the people is corrupted, there is no brotherhood among the men, but rather a life and death competition to get to "fuck". What Wilhelm Reich termed "Mechanical fucking" is the mode of sexuality of the broken situation of the middle east, the mode of sexuality of war, warrape, the fucking of female slaves for instance, the mode of sexuality of the neurotically armoured human beings, incapable of feeling their own life-energy, trapped in mechanistic "left brain thinking" as Ian McGilChrist calls it.
"Mechanical fucking" does not lead to the total extacy of love, but merely to an ejaculation in the man, and a partial activation of the childbirth orgasm in the woman(at best). Compulsary sexual morality was introduced, and became a necessity when fucking, a sexuality based not on love, but on "unnatural lust", starts to become prevalent, in an attempt to salvage the humanity of society, so it does no degenerate into a total hellhole of multicultural demonic fucking. If that were to happen, the society would devolve into a subhuman level, "the society of the rapefucking demon chimpanzee", as I call it, which is a twisting and inversion of the original situation: "the society of the loving human bonobo".
Religious control of sexuality seems to be a higher unconcious impulse arising from the collective psyche, to manage the situation, and prevent disaster. Leading to the ideal of virginity. A woman can share the loving embrace with men and retain her innocense, she can not be fucked and retain her innocense. That is just how it is. Offcourse as Tolstoi pointed out, the man should also remain innocent until marriage then. But that didn't always happen. Rather the institution of lower prostitution was introduced, for men to get to fuck before marriage, since they understandably had difficulty to abstain for many years after puberty. For the institution of marriage to work properly it have to take place both for the man and woman close to puberty. If men have to go for many years without love, they become more and more perverted. So it was a tricky situation. Leading to the "whore and madonna" complex, or paradox, were an evil sexual economy of "pure" and "fallen" women was created, a paradox which did not exist in the original situation where "the loving embrace" was still extant.
In short, as Neil Young sang: "It's a fallen situation, with little reason to believe, when the love isn't flowing, the way it could have been"
sounds intresting, can you recommend me some books or podcasts to dive deeper?
Thanks for this comment. Very insightful.
Thank you for this very interesting and well written comment. I've not encountered anything that examines human sexuality in this way before, it's quite fascinating. I don't know why but my mind went to the film "The Gods Must Be Crazy". Judging by the sources you've pulled from and the lines quoted I would bet you're an intriguing person with knowledge on endless topics. I wonder though why Sartre got no credit for his observation that people are hell, maybe it wasn't such a novel thing to say.
Are you published? Or do you have any recommendations?
@@CreatureFears Thank you, glad you found it interesting. I recommend the books of Wilhelm Reich, Charachter analysis, Mass Psychology of fascism, The function of the orgasm, God, devil and ether, cosmic superimposition are some I remember to have read. I think especially important in todays world is his ideas and discoveries on neurotic armouring in the body, and the necessity to help release it to heal mental trauma, and his discovery of what seems to me to must be mankinds original mode of making love, "the loving embrace between man and woman" , as he called it. A totally different process than what he termed "mechanical fucking" which he viewed as antisocial behaviour (An eccentric australian man named William Chidley seems to have anectdotally discovered the same loveprocess for himself some decades before Reich and wrote a book about it "the answer" I haven't read that one, but in this video he briefly describes it, in a manner that sounds somewhat similiar to what Reich later describes more scientifically. ua-cam.com/video/4OnnwOJWokw/v-deo.html ) I don't like his early overenthusiasm with communism, but he turned away from that more and more, and I like his development away from ideology towards science, his own science of orgonomy, peculiarly unfolded out of Freuds psychoanalysis.. Also Island of Aldous Huxley. Stranger in a strange land by Robert Heinlein. If you like the weaving together and juxtaposition of all kinds of ideas, you might like Robert Anton Wilson. I'm not such a fan of his enthusiasm for drugs and magic, but he was an extraordinarily creative thinker, and had some good advice on how too keep sanity in face of uncertainty. I especiall enjoyed discovering Jeremy Griffiths ideas on the possibility that we did not evolve from any chimpanzees , but from specifically bonobolike ancestors, and that motherly love must have played a significant role in the shaping of the human soul in the process towards self awareness. There was a long interval of evolusion in love, he believes. Personally I believe that "the loving embrace" was developed in that period, but eventually lost to most peoples, with some remnants of it in tantric sex, and its taoistic equivalent, and perhaps in some indian tribes, and nature peoples in other places of the world also. In isolated places perhaps to some degree they kept some sanity in the sexual area, but in advanced urban civilizations it will tend to move towards a sexuality based on "mechanical fucking" on a societal level, driving the collapse of the civilization eventually, due to spiritual degradation.
@@suvisantini9712 I recommend Wilhelm Reich. Mass Psychology of fascism and the function of the orgasm are good possible places to start if you should be interested.Also lately I discovered Jeremy Griffiths and his theory on humanity evolving from specifically bonobolike anscestors. He has a book called Freedom. I listened to this podcast today, I found it interesting ua-cam.com/video/KnAMJXuE0Cc/v-deo.html
again, as Dan Winter said "the holy grail serves itself" and so when I meet or integrate others into my life, I do intend to be "self constructive"
People think whatever they are inclined to think about me. I cover my face and hair, I hate my hair blowing in my face and getting stuck in my eyes and mouth but it's too hot to leave the fan off. Recently there's bugs that have been aiming for my nostrils, way too often for comfort. Im not Muslim or practice any religion. I do love oxytocin though. Do you know what prolactin does? 😉
Those damn nostril bugs are annoying. Think it’s a product of ecology change due to climate changing (as it tends to do from time to time). & yes, Prolactin could be a beautiful thing…
Fascinating!
This was good stuff
So when two people (or a caregiver and pet) share love and care for each other, their bodies produce oxytocin? But giving oxytocin to people does not make them love and care for people they don't love or care for?
It depends on the dogs skin color and which team does the dog cheer for 🎉
Exactly
Lol....
It's a bonding hormone - body signal.... it generates a connection to another whom you associate with your 'tribe'.
Because there are others who are not in your tribe, those become the 'them' you are protecting your tribe from.
@@annan4866 How do you demonstrate that the hormone "generates a connection"? Or rather bonding "generates the hormones" to signal a connection?
We also administer oxytocin for induction of labor & in some cases to increase frequency of contraction during active phase of labor ✌🏽
Sounds like we shouldn't mess with it. We evolved this way for a reason. We should organize society around it istead foolishly trying to fight it.
Ipso facto you shouldn't fool with the natural state of your body by drinking your favorite beer, coffee, cigarettes and candy.
@@mauricementhol1831 That's r3t4rded.
This is a bit of truth about our human nature.
Let us endure knowing the whole truth?
And then cocreate a civilization which is able to counter our worse tendencies while enabling and rewarding our better virtues?
They’re all systems created over time via e.g. evolution because you’re dealing with a lot of unknowns. So you can’t very easily optimize without knowing. This is an optimized strat created from randomness and trial and error.
And if your people suffer but the whole benefits - which is often the case with approaches such as yours - it will be hard to implement such systems. And it’s unknown if the whole benefitting is better than your people existing in the long run. Not to mention it’s a subjective thing.
It's a bond thing. If you feel strongly connected, you have a stronger urge to save the 5 unknown people, because they might be the reason for your otherwise unaccountable feeling of bond, they are your people. Have those as a variant with different typical names (Dirk being a bad choice, btw. bc it's a German name) and see what happens to the struggling unknown right in front of subjects...
See: Carsten K. W. De Dreu u. a.: The Neuropeptide Oxytocin Regulates Parochial Altruism in Intergroup Conflict Among Humans.
This explains so much.
It's not like the Dutch don't have good historical reasons to fear Germans, French, Spanish, and Muslims. It sounds like an ingroup survival mechanism that works. It works for the North Sentinelese.
Lgbnpc: all preferences are valid!
Me: I have in group preference
Lgbnpc: NPC script enters blue screen of death.
Right on ... just saw the Adventures of Captain Alatriste,started out in a canal...
Theres no difference genetically between french dutch and german so
It's not about being sane. It's about understanding and managing your own insanity: knowing its roots in your nature and past, and out smarting those failings through corrective habits.
Symbols have more power over the human mind in a manner that is unimaginable 🤷🏻♂️
Trolley problem answer: I didnt put anyone in danger. Its not my responsibility to take responsibility for someone elses actions. I dont push the button, i dont push the person. I try to save everyone without hurting anyone. Whoever gets hurt is just the inevitability of a terrible situation. My answer, forgo the choice to hurt anyone and reject the choice of 'necessary sacrifice' to try and save everyone if possible. If the ONLY intervention is to push a button( say two rooms filling with water, button empties one room into the other), either choice is good because either choice saves life. Saving more people is more good, but both choices were not my initial respinsibility.
Would it be fair to characterize oxytocin as the us vs. them hormone?
Not really, because then you would be on the way to A Brave New World
@@trianglesandsquares420 Implying what? That if we don't raise our own children we lose our sense of unity and allow the elites to create a permanent under class? Cause we can already sort of see that now.
Lovely video that explains why "human nature" is fickle, questionable, disgusting, useless, immoral and highly attractive to intellectually lazy humans (it feels good). If I may add my two cents, I do think the reason that oxytocin causes humans to more easily "other" people, and act in a manner more hostile towards "others"; is that if you are secreting oxytocin, this means you are likely to be with your child, etc., which means you need to be alert to protect the child from threats. Hence, the elevated response to "others", which are seen as threats in a prehistoric society of feuding tribes.
Always stand with your pack. Aliens wont help you, wont gratify you for a sacrifice of one of yours.
Now define the pack: partner, family, friends, community, country or species
well, in a way that makes sense, seems like fractal self service-connectedness. Dan Winter had said that "the holy grail serves itself"
Why no transcript?
A more interesting question to me is WHY did it evolve to influence us, even when it comes to other humans.
What utility was there for implicit bias against humans? If these traits evolved, they didnt evolve for no reason.
I had a squirrel monkey named Kong in Sonoma and the hippie commune on property on East Napa St gave it drugs and stole it from me.
Thank you for your service
Not quite sure about the connection to what this has to do with OxyContin ?
Also, I’m sorry you lost your monkey 🙏🏽
Don't you think our reliance on rapid heuristic calculations is contextual though?
I've never been to a jungle, but if you suddenly dropped me off in a jungle - I'd be jumping at every rustle and twig snap.
When I walk past my neighbour's hedgerow, I don't have that same reaction.
Simmilarly, if I were to bump into an isolated tribe, we'd be fearful of one another - and that would make sense.
We're strangers - we're strange to one another - and either party may be harbouring ill intent, pathogens and any number of factors unknown.
If I'm working in my shop, and one of those same tribesmen walks in and requests help with deciding which walking poles to purchase - I'm not going to freak out and punch them in the face.
Our tendency to utilise rough heuristics is contextual and appropriate.
Be the one that would JUMP onto the tracks, not knowing who you were saving.
Yes, obvious conclusions for materialistic thinking.
Hormones by themselves do not create pair bonding. They just strengthen/reinforce them. All hormones are a response to stimulus. They are a way for your body to reinforce change based on input received. For example, cortisol is often generated as a response to starvation, stressors, (like athletic activity or being attacked), as a way to bring inflammation down when there is damage etc. The cortisol does not CAUSE any of those things. It is a response. It acts to reinforce your body's input.
Same with dopamine, or oxytocin or other "social bonding" hormones. They are not the CAUSE, they are an EFFECT. They allow what the consciousness is experiencing to be made manifest in the physical realm.
I think stereotyping is just pattern recognition, you will assume a person of certain decent and by the way they dress will be more violent or unpredictable if there is experience of that in the past, it is effective and good on a general basis though there may be instances where it lead to a suboptimal result, overall experience will carve your instincts as you say which is great, we're not pre-programmed and able to learn.
However tribalism is counterbalanced by betrayal, you can be super loyal until you get thrown under the bus. Misplaced trust is very easily abused.
Wouldn’t information received before critical thinking develops be far more foundational than subsequent information? And with the advent of electronic media, haven’t each generation received different downloads of information during this developmental phase. The electronic phase is crucial, as it creates a “common information space” for an entire population. The information shared by all would be “default credible” through comprehensive commonality. The baby boom was heavily effected by their 2D, idealized and sanitized down loads, bereft of the fundamental truths of human nature, and morality, right and wrong, consistently conflated conflated with Americana and martial institutions both foreign (the military” and domestic (policing)? With such a sudden, comprehensive and developmentally timed phenomena, how can different generations overcome different foundational programming to better cooperate in shared concerns?
The brain evolved these mechanisms because they were essential for survival over millions of years. To ascribe a value judgment to a survival mechanism that has remained unchanged since we were a species is to second guess nature.
"Prejudice" is well-defined as an act of willful thought. That word is inappropriately allocated to describe a subconscious reflex.
I also get the feeling that a value judgment is being made. No value can be ascribed since all humans possess this wiring. Also, it's a read-only instinct not an act of conscious thought. It may inform conscious thought but it doesn't dictate.
But in general, my pattern recognition skills have verified what my instincts have programmed -- people who aren't like me have currently declared themselves my enemy en masse. It has been put into law in recent years as well (farm subsidies).
Turns out that even if you don't want to be tribal, some group will be and it will force you to become tribal to survive.
I used to say "live and let live". Not anymore. Tolerance is no longer a word I recognize as legitimate as any kind of social philosophy. In fact, it's a poison pill.
Thankfully, the people they're demonizing and kicking out of jobs are the ones who sustain this society. They saw the branch upon which they sit. When it falls, we laugh.
In my experience, mainly due to Biodanza (an activity that releases high levels of oxytocin), that experiment does not prove oxytocin makes you more prone to discriminate between us and them. It just make you more aware of affection bonds. Only if you live in a society which promotes this kind of xenophobic ideals that you should put your "tribe" over the rest, and on top of it represses physical affection (hugs, caressing ) except between partners or parent-child, then yes oxytocin will have this effect.
(English is not my first language, sorry)
Yes, they conflated some things in this video. Didn’t really explain oxytocin’s role in that system.
This is common in science. For example, accutane clears up acne, right? No it doesn’t: it does something that ends the growth stage. This is no different than acne clearing itself up after puberty. They found a way to stunt your growth, not a cure to acne.
There are at least 3 factors that explain why this wasn’t known. But humans look at cause-and-effect in a very biased way. I see it all the time in science.
This really makes me consider studies that suggest parents become more conservative, given that this neurotransmitter comes from the use of parental bonding. It even makes sense in terms or intensiting threat concerns. Ironic though, given the devaluation of real threats of family, intimate relations and normative violence
I see this expressed in various ways. They realize they’re responsible for their children. So they feel like the ultimate authority.. have to do everything to make sure they survive. That is what makes them “conservative.”
They might explain it in negative terms like not being a child relying on its parents anymore, or not relying on daddy government.
Cows do the same thing, they tend to group with others that are most similar to them, age wise and colour wise. It’s just the way things are.
We need more oxytocin then.
Damn right.
@@GeneraluStelaru we need functioning oxytocin circuitry. Jolly Heretic Dutton said it doesn't work properly for spiteful mutants.
2:07 until you grows up and discovers how pet races are made ... yeah, then your oxytocin will polarise into hate, and you will hate all about pets ... forever, due oxytocin is perpetual memory too
We have not only oxytocin but also all the spectrum until inotocin, and the levels of each correlates with ghrelin and biosilica ones
More ghrelin more dehydrated biosilica less oxytocin and more inotocin extremes, making the individual inotocinic connectomed
Then, your tests of oxytocin administration will be running on oxytocinic and inotocinic connectomes, having a connectome effect
Most of your descriptions are common to both, oxytocin and inotocin basic behaviours, but neglected connectome and memory
To notice that oxytocin identifies itself with oxytocinic behaviours more than external markers, while inotocin to hieral exteriorities
Oxytocinic connectomes have higher IQ with strong integrated memory while Inotocinic connectomes lower IQ in strong mimic memory
Finally, must not be mistaken oxyto-inotocinic connectome effects with those of male-female connectome, adrenaline-serotonin linked
Loaded with fun stuff! :)
Given that we all share the same rather small planetary home and are, in fact, all "us", how do we increase our perception and recognition of this "us" group?
Especially since we will need adopt a more cooperative or even "hive heart" mentality in order to prosper well into the next century.
Interesting! Until now I thought the agression against "them" came from vasopressin
I would love to get the text of Chidley's 'The Answer' if anyone knows where I can d that. ( or 'the confessions of william james chidley' I think is another)