People aren't giving m2k enough credit. M2k reads are Amazing. In fact the reason why puff is so annoying is because u have to commit hard on a read to kill her. M2k played out of his mind. His fox is underrated.
Fox mains will look at this as textbook to beat hbox. Hbox is the god with the most unstable future considering how beatable his main is. He's gotta adapt his game or he could start stumbling.
I think the 3 tag means that he has to go through 3 foxes to win the tournament: Mew2king, Plup, and Mango. If he did beat M2K here, he would probably change his tag to 2 in his match with Plup. This is just a guess, though.
010101 k no he knew he was gonna get 3rd he didn't want to even be in this tournament anymore just look at HBox vs Axe he just looked like he didn't want to be there anymore
Red Blaze X yeah I'd be mad but to be honest this is the one hand warmer I wouldn't get too mad for over m2k. He likely will play this character ONCE in bracket and it's one of if not the most technically demanding characters in the game, making sure it's warm since he's just whipping it out for likely one person isn't unreasonable imo. M2k rarely does 3 handwarmers a set otherwise I'd be fucking mad too LOL.
Kit-Kat With Chain Mew2king: pichu/mewtwo/Falcon/Luigi(?) Armada: Young Link/ mr. Game and watch Mango: Mario PPMD:....*cries* Leffen: Mewtwo/Falco Hungrybox: Falco/Ganon(?) Plup: anything but fox/sheik/samus Others Axe: young link/Falco Westballz: DK/falcon S2J: Falco Shroomed: Marth/ doc PewPewU: anything but Marth/Yoshi(he can't play yoshi in his random netplay acc) And just for hell of it Scar: Scarth/Scarfox/Scarmada LULL Toph: Sheik/Falcon/Falco
MrSupahnin10doh m2k actually plays the mu well whenever he wins. This wasn't quite the same style but a lot of similar stuff he usually does when he wins the mu
Is no one gonna talk about how that rest at 2:50 was off by a single frame? That's wild to see a frame-perfect victory happen twice (see CEO:Dreamland for the first)
Zelan Sexton it's a meme at this point. They are 6-7 this year. considering this by far the most played mu between two top6 players by far being effectively even means he's made huge strides since 16 and especially 2015
ST 2014 was really the year m2k started gaining any semblance of belief that he could consistently beat/compete against hbox...he would even go on to win 3 sets in a Row between RoM 6?, a Pats House tournament...but it all started with his huge Big House win over PPMD and HBOX. Prior to that m2k would get Stomped on by Hbox using both Fox n Marth. Hence the puff dittos he used to opt for. I believe he only beat Hbox a collective 4 or 5 times prior to that year (2014) going all the way back to 2009.
strawhats100 yup and most of them were the first year when hbox started playing m2k LMAO. 2015 was a wash compared to 2014 when it was actually closer (granted 2015 m2k looked on the verge on retirement but it was still like 1-9 or some shit lmao). 2016 was an improvement and now 2017 it's effectively a toss up between them.
Ok, get your downvotes out, it's unpopular opinion time: maybe we should just...respect both players? Like them or not, they've both added a lot to the Smash community, and to the game itself. Yes, there are annoying things they do (ahem...ledge camping.) No, they don't deserve to get hate for it, just like Ices don't deserve hate for wobbling. For the record, I hate wobbling; but I'm a big boy now, and I don't hate people for how they play Smash. We're playing a game from our childhood. Let's keep the community competitive, but let's not take it so seriously that we take the fun out of it. Just my 2 cents.
Yui's Ego only the top6 foxes are beating him now. It's not like he's losing to scrubs. I mean I'm not an hbox fan and not really even a hater but if he's only losing to top6 players (who are all comparable to him in skill) these last few tournies he's doing fine. It's just his standards are so insanely high that this is poor for him lol. he's now no3 in the world and it could be argued he's a closer toss up with m2k who's clearly at worst 4th.
I bet Hungrybox get most triggered when losing to Mew2King. HBox loses to Mew2King's Fox when he doesn't play Fox all bracket and it's his 3rd best character.
Probably not since everyone knows that m2k chooses characters mostly off of matchups, and he's always picked fox against Hbox. M2k was also a fox main before he picked up sheik and marth. Hbox also made Armada pick up fox cuz he couldn't beat puff with peach so the specific character choice probably doesn't bother him
I'd also like to say I feel like the ledge isn't a good strategy (kind of like how evo 2015 turned out) he had really good results with it for one tourney but since then it's been going downhill. Hbox is still at worst 4th in the world and is only losing to top6 players who are all very comparable in skill to eachother. He should try labbing some other non-ledge play strategies imo. I'm not particularly a fan of hbox but I don't blindly hate him for his character either.
Hey thank you for sportsmanship! I think it's a little lacking in the community. But yeah I agree, I don't see what it affords him, as 9/10 times I've seen the guy get killed while trying to get back on stage after ledge camping. Plus people are hella adapting and catching him on the ledge. That being said HBox had a lot of critical failures during that quite literally cost him the set.
Why is it that smash 4 players never see what goes on during melee? Is it because smash 4 puff is low tier trash, and melee puff is faster than smash 4 Marth?
1.He allready use a lame char and then also use lame tatics like camping and time out. I can understand using those tactics against players that are better then you. But it´s to lame to use it agaist lower rank players. 2. He makes everyone plays Fox and fucks up the whole meta.
5:59 Hbox with that fox uptilt on the chair
People aren't giving m2k enough credit. M2k reads are Amazing. In fact the reason why puff is so annoying is because u have to commit hard on a read to kill her. M2k played out of his mind. His fox is underrated.
In 05 not lol
6:00 hbox back airs a chair
TishYou hahahahahh
came to see this comment, wasn't disappointed
This deserves more likes.
Bairs a chair
How do you back air on the ground
when hungrybox stands up, my pants go down
M2K was on fire for most of those stocks. A little messy, but pretty damn good.
The 3 tag was Hbox's future ranking
Stolen from reddit.
SIMIFU Or maybe he thought of it himself? Multiple people can come up with the same joke, they aren't exclusive.
Dick.
Ardian dont get too hurt over a joke lmao
this hasn't aged well...
Felix Charles well, shit
Everyone is talking about Hbox, and no one's talking about how well M2K was playing. :(
Hbox is the comeback king of melee
It's not that I don't like HBox but I like M2K way more
LETS GO M2K!
You could really tell that Mew2king's Fox was running out of steam near the end
Yay M2K! He did it!
5:59 Hungrybox back-airs his chair
Fox how do you back air on the ground
Fox mains will look at this as textbook to beat hbox. Hbox is the god with the most unstable future considering how beatable his main is. He's gotta adapt his game or he could start stumbling.
Kevin Crabtree I think people aren't give m2k enough credit
Lol
This post looking rough in 2019.
Takes that aged like milk.
@@billwoods7578 who watches a clip from 5 years ago? I guess my life has evolved a lot better than yours.
Well that was a sweep.
Not looking good for hbox lately, gotta retool that fox match-up.
That off stage up air looked like something mango would do lol
Lets go Yayson
M2k played very well this set. He played the matchup exactly like you should.
I think the 3 tag means that he has to go through 3 foxes to win the tournament: Mew2king, Plup, and Mango. If he did beat M2K here, he would probably change his tag to 2 in his match with Plup. This is just a guess, though.
010101 k no he knew he was gonna get 3rd he didn't want to even be in this tournament anymore just look at HBox vs Axe he just looked like he didn't want to be there anymore
I love how half of the comments are people complaining about people complaining about Hbox's defensive play
the complaint meta is evolving
"Eat some McDonalds Jigglypuff, please!" - Vish 2017
7:27
WHAT WAS THAT UP SMASH?!?!
Hbox sitting back down is the Melee equivalent of Perfect Cell reverting back a form because of how badly Gohan fucked him up.
what's with the 3 tag?
Amir Hurwitz m2k did 3 different handwarmer
Red Blaze X yeah I'd be mad but to be honest this is the one hand warmer I wouldn't get too mad for over m2k. He likely will play this character ONCE in bracket and it's one of if not the most technically demanding characters in the game, making sure it's warm since he's just whipping it out for likely one person isn't unreasonable imo. M2k rarely does 3 handwarmers a set otherwise I'd be fucking mad too LOL.
I think it would be pretty cool if there was a major where all the gods went secondaries
Kit-Kat With Chain
Mew2king: pichu/mewtwo/Falcon/Luigi(?)
Armada: Young Link/ mr. Game and watch
Mango: Mario
PPMD:....*cries*
Leffen: Mewtwo/Falco
Hungrybox: Falco/Ganon(?)
Plup: anything but fox/sheik/samus
Others
Axe: young link/Falco
Westballz: DK/falcon
S2J: Falco
Shroomed: Marth/ doc
PewPewU: anything but Marth/Yoshi(he can't play yoshi in his random netplay acc)
And just for hell of it
Scar: Scarth/Scarfox/Scarmada LULL
Toph: Sheik/Falcon/Falco
Who won first place ?
+mitchelljake dame, I was routing for M2K.
Hungrybox's chair metagame is on another level.
You’re gonna get it one day
Holy shit, plup must have given m2k the best advice for him to play like this.
MrSupahnin10doh m2k actually plays the mu well whenever he wins. This wasn't quite the same style but a lot of similar stuff he usually does when he wins the mu
Is no one gonna talk about how that rest at 2:50 was off by a single frame? That's wild to see a frame-perfect victory happen twice (see CEO:Dreamland for the first)
GymLeader Causter it is fountain of dreams... it was a dream for yayson and a crushed one for hbox (riperoooni)
12:25 hbox spying on m2k's di
speaking of hot sauce that up smash was ...
You're gona get it one day
Eat mc donalds jigglypuff
Wise words from a commentator
"you're gonna get it someday"
Thought m2k was gonna get 3-0d. Blew my mind his fox is never doin this well
Zelan Sexton it's a meme at this point. They are 6-7 this year. considering this by far the most played mu between two top6 players by far being effectively even means he's made huge strides since 16 and especially 2015
ST 2014 was really the year m2k started gaining any semblance of belief that he could consistently beat/compete against hbox...he would even go on to win 3 sets in a Row between RoM 6?, a Pats House tournament...but it all started with his huge Big House win over PPMD and HBOX. Prior to that m2k would get Stomped on by Hbox using both Fox n Marth. Hence the puff dittos he used to opt for. I believe he only beat Hbox a collective 4 or 5 times prior to that year (2014) going all the way back to 2009.
strawhats100 yup and most of them were the first year when hbox started playing m2k LMAO. 2015 was a wash compared to 2014 when it was actually closer (granted 2015 m2k looked on the verge on retirement but it was still like 1-9 or some shit lmao). 2016 was an improvement and now 2017 it's effectively a toss up between them.
Ok, get your downvotes out, it's unpopular opinion time: maybe we should just...respect both players? Like them or not, they've both added a lot to the Smash community, and to the game itself.
Yes, there are annoying things they do (ahem...ledge camping.) No, they don't deserve to get hate for it, just like Ices don't deserve hate for wobbling. For the record, I hate wobbling; but I'm a big boy now, and I don't hate people for how they play Smash.
We're playing a game from our childhood. Let's keep the community competitive, but let's not take it so seriously that we take the fun out of it. Just my 2 cents.
February:*HBox prank calls M2K* M2K:Your gonna get it one day.
August:3-0 Revenge
The Normie Hitman i came here from that video
Oh he gets his chair back, and... he doesn't use it
his fox was crazy this set dude wtf
M2k you can do it
Its looking hard for Hbox rn.....the fox (and non-fox) mains are adapting a lot to both his character and playstyle...
Yung Dipshit 20XX will come.
Yui's Ego only the top6 foxes are beating him now. It's not like he's losing to scrubs. I mean I'm not an hbox fan and not really even a hater but if he's only losing to top6 players (who are all comparable to him in skill) these last few tournies he's doing fine. It's just his standards are so insanely high that this is poor for him lol. he's now no3 in the world and it could be argued he's a closer toss up with m2k who's clearly at worst 4th.
ST Who's 2nd now? Mango?
I'd say so...his recent wins are a strong case for it.
These aren't top 6 foxes lol, they're top 6 players with fox secondaries (tertiary?)
I bet Hungrybox get most triggered when losing to Mew2King. HBox loses to Mew2King's Fox when he doesn't play Fox all bracket and it's his 3rd best character.
Probably not since everyone knows that m2k chooses characters mostly off of matchups, and he's always picked fox against Hbox. M2k was also a fox main before he picked up sheik and marth. Hbox also made Armada pick up fox cuz he couldn't beat puff with peach so the specific character choice probably doesn't bother him
i saw m2k there at the venue. he was practicing the puff matchup all night and i think it paid off
Should've practice not uptilting Falco at 16% to lose chaingrab to get pillard 0 to 100% to FSmash on FD imo
Terminous lol especially cause falco has less di out options then fox iirc in the chain grab LMAO.
m2k has been using Fox against Puff since 2005 - he said this on stream
Hell yeah man. Mew2king Fox action. Legoo
M2k made hbox sit the fuck down
M2K 😍
I'd also like to say I feel like the ledge isn't a good strategy (kind of like how evo 2015 turned out) he had really good results with it for one tourney but since then it's been going downhill. Hbox is still at worst 4th in the world and is only losing to top6 players who are all very comparable in skill to eachother. He should try labbing some other non-ledge play strategies imo. I'm not particularly a fan of hbox but I don't blindly hate him for his character either.
Hey thank you for sportsmanship! I think it's a little lacking in the community. But yeah I agree, I don't see what it affords him, as 9/10 times I've seen the guy get killed while trying to get back on stage after ledge camping. Plus people are hella adapting and catching him on the ledge. That being said HBox had a lot of critical failures during that quite literally cost him the set.
crapvile he will never pull that falco out in tourney because it will get absolutely destroyed
Apparently m2k had rage.....in MELEE...........o.k.
Made it look sexy
mew2king's fox is a lot better than i remember.
That upsmash N U T
M2k knocked hbox out of super saiyan.
Not gonna lie I dont like hbox at all, but I still love good melee, really unfortunate he underperformed here
Mew2king
Rekt
F
This match is easy for m2k
Lolm2k
leave hbox alone you jims
Hbox sucks at his most common matchup in the game
He's losing to secondaries. Washed
he's losing to one of jiggs' worst matchups vs the best players in the world*
Up throw >up air
*dies at like 2 percent*
>consistently gets top 4 at tournaments generally first or second
>loses to one of the five gods
>washed
TheDittoChannel fell for the bait
Why is it that smash 4 players never see what goes on during melee? Is it because smash 4 puff is low tier trash, and melee puff is faster than smash 4 Marth?
bad commentary for this tournament
fox looking crispy
Why does everybody hate Hbox :(
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1.He allready use a lame char and then also use lame tatics like camping and time out. I can understand using those tactics against players that are better then you. But it´s to lame to use it agaist lower rank players.
2. He makes everyone plays Fox and fucks up the whole meta.