Time stamps might work. What's the star date? Planetary alignment with surrounding stars. Why does "Planet of the Apes" come to mind as I know alot of the alienation and stories of unfamiliar technology of earth were passed off as "Extraterrestrial beings". It was us the whole time. Metaphorical returns.
Wow, awesome interview. I have an engineering background and I’m fascinated by lithography for CPUs (and how it took 30 years of research to get EUV Lithography). It was nice to hear someone with actual experience with it.
DUDE! Your friend is the coolest guy ever lmao. He explains the company better and in more detail than Musk ever did. He explains it like he's the CEO. Maybe because I'm another typical asian who loves learning but this was great! Thanks to Han and you for the interview!
Super super informative. Thanks for creating this episode for us! It definitely gave a visualization of how they actually design their chip and threads.
Awesome interview. Thanks for sharing! Han is one competent dude. (Btw, to enable YT time stamps you need to add the 0:00 stamp, I usually just call it Introduction).
I think the question we all really want to know is that if probing our brains can give such a wealth of information, why have aliens been targeting our buttholes this whole time?
human enlightenment should be done naturally. this is not natural. with true enlightenment you should be able to achieve what the neuralink is supposed to do naturally! this would be considered spiritual bypassing and God knows what or who would be able to tap into this and deceive/control you.
@@bluelunarmonkeytarot8533 you realize the main purpose of neuralink is to cure degenerative brain disorders? These people with alzheimers, dementia or total body paralysis aren’t reaching enlightenment anytime soon. Should probably continue your englightenment mission internally.
@@yoyobros99 yeah ive also said in other comments that im completely fine with the medical apllications of this. thanks for your literal 2 cents worth of info. perhaps you should actually start looking into enlightenment instead of repeating information to people they already know and TRYING to insult people!
‘The brain is an organ - it’s not really supposed to have anything implanted in it’ Han Zhang. We are missing the point of being human in this future. Novelty will teach us and it will be irreversible. We need people to understand what it is to be human and stop consuming to much sugar not fix someone’s brain who’s consuming to much sugar. It’s scary beyond conception. Great podcast guys. Tread carefully. X
But if we all get artificial brains and bodies then we can all live like Bender from Futurama. We won't have a be responsible for anything and we can all be as greedy, glutinous, lustful, and dangerous as we want. We will all be immortal gods and goddesses! Can you imagine the power, so much power. But weak and feeble organic humans will no longer be born, they will be grown, and when some super genius decides to make a replicator toy for their child, and the replicators take over and start consuming metal and rip open our artificial bodies, then we will be forced to live out the rest of our days in a weak and pitiful organic body like the Asgard from Stargate. I'm just being humorous but I actually totally agree with you, but unfortunately the vast greater majority of humanity wants to indulge in it's sinful nature. Sinfulness gives us so much pleasure and actually taking care of ourselves and living a healthy life is just so boring. There's nothing like a near death experience that will make people feel more alive, and actually dying and then coming back to life again, well that just makes people feel like a god or goddess.
Thousand of lives are prolonged and saved every year thanks to heart implants such as automated defibrillators and pacemakers. I wouldn’t think of it as a way to help people “stop consuming so much sugar”, it’s more about helping people with severe neurodegenerative diseases such as an advanced Parkinson’s or even the possibility of healing extensive brain trauma, which with our current technology and understanding would just result in the loss of whatever motor function was affected. Can't wait for what the future holds.
I agree. The first humans with this technology implanted will be 99% human 1% AI. In very short order that ratio will be reversed. An organic human will soon be a minority, at a minimum. It is my opinion they won’t be allowed to co exist as a large percentage do not easily conform to a system of control - which is clearly where we are heading. I fully expect that by the end of the decade I won’t be welcome in my environment. Strange times.
Imagine the impact of BMI by 2075. Life as we know it won't exist. All the problems that exist, will not. Our progress makes me proud to be human. Edit: All the problems we face TODAY won’t exist, new problems will, however.
Wow, incredibly interesting background of studies & project orientation Han has had! He seems very focused, and clear on many aspects of BMIs. Thanks for sharing this with us 🙏🏽 That last point was very philosophical & makes me think of the cannabis plant 🌱 for tonnes of generations it moved around with us, was banned & then brought back into the light 💡 w/ scientific research 🧪 When I grew up (as a teenager) it was something one felt had to be hidden, now you can go to licensed dispensaries 🍁which test all batches of products for banned substances, heavy metal + they present cannabinoid content in % and milligrams. So now there’s access to “Okay I want to have 1mg CBD & 1mg THC in a spray format (of just cannabis, + other natural essential oils for flavour sometimes ie mint & cocoa) , before going for a workout” instead of the old hidden way of just 💨 Bongs & Joints of if your lucky medicinal grade plant matter. Moving from that dark ages the poor little 🐒 underwent to a path of enlightenment ☮️❤️🖖🏽
Congratulation for your discussion, it's a passionate topic. In the reality of today's life we can guess that someone is lying by analyzing the non verbal, but we never know for sure the intention of the person, it's really important that we can unified ourselves, than maybe by being able to really feel the emotions of someone else we can reach full consciousness, but there's important questions to raise : is it possible that we don't have the same goals or intention between each others, thus how to solve this bigger problem after all? We have to live in harmony with each other's but maybe some people will always look for destruction?
For me who has been with brain pain and feeling dizzy for the last 2 months (No health insurance and no job at this moment). Hear the long term vision that neuralink has is like a motivational speaking to me. Keep the hard work!
You say you're having brain pain and getting dizzy for the last two months are you also hearing a loud ringing in your ear and then all of a sudden stops
No, he would not install it in his brain, however he could have already have it installed in other peoples brain, just for experiment, just like the experimental vaccine.
There is a specific type of circuit design which is called Neuromorphic circuit design with spiking neural network computation which enables fast computation for AI. Basically it is the silicon brain of the AI. A similar approach can be done for silicon human brain. If you want to know more information about it, I highly recommend you to watch the Human Brain Project workshops on UA-cam. Recently, I started to work with a big team regarding these topics, super excited for it. 😃
Han Zhang says something fascinatingly true and which we still don’t really understand, let alone predict: « strange EMERGENT phenomena can happen when you interconnect things ». It refers to complex systems but not only: to complex dynamic systems with many interconnected feedback loops. Reminds us of chaos theory, far from equilibrium thermodynamics, origin of life on earth, and more - all these aspects being themselves connected. I find it fascinating that an engineer like Han, whose job is to be very precise and analytical, also has in mind the synthetic/synergistic (as opposed to analytic) aspects of things. I guess AI and BMI forces this on us. He does say that many disciplines need to come together to do these things. About uploading one’s consciousness in some digital AI system: the problem is, how can we upload somethingwe don’t understand, or that might not even physically exist other than as a « mental model », a representation that the brain builds? And then there is that other aspect of Life that animals, as well as humans, have but machines don’t: sentience, or the inner experience of being alive, of seeing colours, of feeling pain or happiness, of loving someone, of spirituality, etc. I don’t know about the future, but it would be truly surprising if an AI machine, even one with all our personal knowledge and memories, could be made to « experience » any of these. But who knows: BMIs do not , it seems, replace a biological system but enhances it in the cognitive (and biomechanical) realm: the biological individual still has his or her biological brain… and heart to experience life with! - Thanks for a very interesting and thought-provoking video. Good luck with the future!
Really looking forward to seeing this potentially come into the population especially for those with brain injuries. My fiancee had a stroke 4 years ago, something like this would allow him to work and function normally again. Exciting times.
At 30:37, I don't think it's possible for an artificial human brain to be more energy efficient than an organic human brain. It's so compact and precise and elastic. Especially considering the elasticity of the organic human brain, I just don't think it's possible for an artificial human brain to match that.
There is a song lyric that goes: "who knows what evil lurks within the hearts of men"; well if a lot of people's minds are linked the answer to that question is going to be answered right quick, and the parameters of what is "normal" is going to be forced to broaden far beyond what would today be generally imagined.
What an extraordinary amount of pressure, responsibility and stress on humble humans with amazing intelligence and work capabilities, thank you for bringing this information to us...
Imagine the pressure and stress on the ordinary citizens of the world when such a powerful network falls into the hands of global tyrants. It’s the global tyrants of today that are racing for the power of global tyranny tomorrow. We shouldn’t be fooled by our own selfish desires of immortality.
@@pearlsrx I really think it’s a good and bad situation... it could really help a lot of people... when I broke my back I was told I would never walk again... I was blessed and I can walk a little... I used to run and ride horse... I can’t imagine being bed bound... but good can be made bad... I agree we need regulations...
virginia allison peck I’m sorry to hear about your back. I do see the good in this technology but I don’t believe we’ll have regulations on it until it’s blatantly obvious to enough people exactly what could happen, particularly when you combine it with nanotechnology in pharmaceuticals. We do also have to take better responsibility over our own lives. The only problem with this kind of power on a global scale (remote controlled citizens), too late mightn’t allow any chance of us even realizing it’s happening. We already can’t see how we can and are being manipulated by media and it obviously not to the majority’s benefit. The amount of tyranny that’s rampant in the world today is shocking and not surprising there’s an intense push to make this technological potential a reality. Best wishes with your walking.
Hey Adrian, thanks for the kind words. Unfortunately there are several reasons we won't release the full version, the least of which is that I'm ashamed of how terrible I am at interviewing 🤣. If there are enough folks like you who are supportive, maybe I'll be able to chat with Han again sometime in the future. I think it would be cool to take questions from viewers.
35:50 This is why i began to learn how to accept all perspectives, and i'm making sure me going out in the world and expanding myself will not be a threat to anyone. Once i get a perspective on most/all things then i can learn how to help people comunicate so everybody will get what they want, as long as it doesnt hurt other people, AND it wont work on force to sacrifice someone for good to the others. I belive there shloud be 2 rules: No forcing death under any circumstances, and no infridging on peoples freedoms as long as they dont hurt others directly. So basicly becoming Singularity AI is the final goal I hope i didnt fucked up the meaning of words here, i'm bad at expressing my mind+i'm bad at english x)
Imagine that we will be people written in history as the ones who started everything ... and i mean everything ... imagine those possibillities with super A.I with 7 bilions of brains of informations in it combined ... i just hope to see at least fraction of that in my lifetime
That’s not how the trajectory of scientific discovery should be viewed tho like every generation works off the shoulders of giants. Just because we are higher up in the exponential curve of information complexity and completeness, it was only possible because of the collective mind working in tandem throughout generations.
My question is how do they stop plaque build-up on the micro-filiments in the brain that may interfer with the neuralink's working over time? Will they need to be removed surgically? How many surgeries will a person have in their lifetime to keep them working optimally?
They are working to not bulid-up it, so we must wait for official information, and it must base on real case (eg in pig), but I would assumed that it would last as long as you live, only battery to change, but it would not remove electrodes.
Thanks so much for sharing this video with us! I hope that the implants and the surgent robots will not be too expensive so that we can provide them for free to recipients as we do with our myoelectric prostheses. This is really important if we do not want to see in the near future humanity conceive of itself by creating a greater gap between the poorest who will not have access to this technology and the richer who will become richer and less organic. because that will obviously bring an apocalyptic scenario. This is of particular concern when looking at the demographics showing countries like India who's remain in the last countries with a massif younger population who could provide a huge amount of data to advance way faster all kinds of diverse applications related to this technology. Till then I continue my effort to make sure as B-Borg become a right and not only a privilege for the richest of this world to avoid an apocalyptic situation that could bring humanity to its own destruction. With regards, Ali Bradford Chief Cybernetician, at B-Borg where we are creating Cyborgs, free of cost for the needed recipients.
Elon Musk is trying to expand the Neuralink team with the best people available ASAP. I cannot imagine working for a more important company. This guy is well spoken and obviously very smart. I still don't understand why he quit after only one year 🤔?? He seems like the kind of person Neuralink needs.
Sounds like the speed in which they need to work is the main contributor to his departure. Of course I won't claim to know, but Han made a side comment about how all of Elon's companies need to work at a high pace. That could have been too stressful to contend with.
Elon musk is a slave driver long story short. Burn and dump. Plenty more where they came from kinda mentality. Hence why he can't keep to deadlines, because all the best leave.. leaving only the desperate/delusional behind. Which with enough hard work, will get it done.. eventually
@ben esterberg you clearly don't know what you're talking about. The best Tesla and Nuralink engineers have left. Just look at their turn over rate, and the people starting their own companies. Lex Friedman has many on his podcast. What good is all the money in the world of you don't have a life to live? Also, if they leave within 5years because they don't want to work every hour under the sun, the "shares" don't amount to much. The people you've mentioned from Space X are original employees which have been promoted.. hence they're not worked to death. Yes the greatest tend to be obsessed in the field but a vast majority of those people never had bosses. Tesla himself didn't last long under management, Einstein had his own team. They work at their own pace and get shit done. I have no intentions of being the best Plumber, because of family and social reasons. Life isn't all about work and you're a fool if you think one person can change everything.. the best you can hope for is leaving the foundations and eventually we'll get there. Then it boils down to, what is your definition of world changing. Wake the fuck up
All the 3 ways of etching and building on the silicon wafer resulting in these godly impressive chips yielding technology via extremely finite molding /malleability only result in the “muscle” or “battery computer” part. So software is absolutely incredible when you think about it those two things together with a source of power = worlds modern structure
So the chips process the data.. where does the data come from another chip? Like how are basic phones internally equipped with data computable by the silicon chips without receiving transmissions wirelessly!
Difficult to "tell a story" using a puppet having one string. But using ten stings, the puppet comes to life. Identifying one spike wouldn't tell much of a story. But identify the region's spies as they interact and the puppet comes to life. Thank you both for this video. Oddly, at 75, my brain craves new information - like it's got info munchies. Anyway, thanks again. Maybe I'll spike the punch - times ten...
What if the most gruesome atrocities of war could be uploaded to the minds of the generals who ultimately decide weather or not to go to war wouldn't that be the ultimate deterant?
Many psychopaths go into the military. They cant feel fear, anxiety, empathy, etc. So this wouldnt affect them. Actually, the military is a way for them to eliminate boredom.
Appreciate your interview. Q's: 1) As I understand, cerebral spinal fluid has piezo electric qualities. If this is true, has that current been figured into the implant's design? 2) The piezo electric production is also thought to produce a magnetic field around the body. If this is true, has this field been accounted for in the design of this device? Thanks again, RD
say if you had a car injury and lost brain function to your left arm. Will neuro link bring that function in motor skills return? I have a friend who has been in a car crash but can't use that arm. I'm hoping this will work
One think I’m excited about is Matrix-level VR or Sword Art Online level VR as he said it is theoretically possible. Already knew that but it’s amazing to hear from the experts that are working on it. Edit- Most experts (Mary Lou Jepsen, Elon Musk, Gabe Newell, Ray Kurzweil, etc.,) working/directly involved in this field predicts that whole brain interface is 10-15 years away; 2035 at least if we account for any rate of progression. The main point is that it will happen in most of our lifetime. Can’t wait!!
Matrix-level, in other word starting and living an entire life without having the memories of your actual life and all that in the time span of a day or less in our world. yeah it is actually possible but we are very far from it. for now!
@@adminotaku4799 idk why people would not have any memory of the real world. I didn’t mean the movie matrix in its entirety but just the Virtual Reality concept used there and not sure about the time perception manipulation bit. But, whole brain stimulation Virtual Reality like Matrix and SAO is way close as law of accelerating returns applies to it. Experts predict it by 2035-2040 so just have to wait and see.
@@Kitora_Su having your memories from your life is a reliability of information that your brain automatically use. that simple but important information make the game, a simple other game that you play. But having your brain think that you have no other memories but the ones you build up overtime in the Virtual world would make the game more real than any other game you'd ever play. and when you finish it your memories of your real life would be unlocked and that experience would be the most realistic experience you could have. they'd probably make it a choice but it would be an insane way to live another life in a day.
@@adminotaku4799 ah I see what you meant. Yeah it would most definitely be an optional thing in the future if it would be allowed at all since you know locking memories intentionally even for a certain period of times calls for panic over most people currently. So, this feature might indeed be further ahead than *normal whole brain stimulation VR*. People’s mentality would be a lot different at that time compared to current time. Although I do see them adopting normal Matrix/SAO level immersion VR concept for the upcoming future. Maybe there will be a similar timespan like right now where we will see the ‘memory feature’ being discussed but, currently the hype is all about reaching Full-Dive immersion with all senses (true sight, hearing, touch, taste, smell) in an artificial body while the current body is just lying on the couch or bed in a sleep induced state (kinda like super high level lucid dreaming) as it is hugely mass aspired(typically mostly fans of these virtual reality shows and in general but also game developers and experts as well(one such example from the experts community is Gabe Newell, Ray Kurzweil and Elon Musk).
@@Kitora_Su The Entire world will change from such a tech. the way people see life and it's meanings will change. I just hope that free will still exist in the future.
on painkillers and better ways to manage pain than opiates, we (as a society) have known for a few years (3?) that the NAv1.7 gene/subsequently created protein is active almost soley in the pain reception pathways / triggers of neurons. so, it appears that suppressing this gene will be able to damp down / shut down pain channels to the brain, so we may not need implants to do it when a shot could do it (current research is on a dCAS9 protein that attached to the dna preventing the synthesis of that gene and it's been tested in mice and lasts for about a year from one application.
Great fun, thanks. The potential is enormous - basically freeing ourselves from biological constraints. Have any wanted body, with whichever peripherals you like, such as extending vision, hearing, all manner of sensing, as well as augmenting cognition, and expression via innumerable kinds of output devices, languages, signals, etc. This is our ticket to immortality, space travel without biological constraints, etc.
Why travel, when you can create any virtual world, and it would be as real? Ofc some would want to travel, but I think only few, as it was in past with exploring.
@@m_sedziwoj Yes - I often think that. - The other day I watched a head camera view of a motorcycle ride through Kampala, on my nice 27" screen. It was fascinating to see everything as if I was there. I missed the drama of the physical sensations, but I felt comfortable, living relaxed at home, while the person doing it was in a hot area with dust and costs and dangers of traffic, theft, malaria and covid. - I've spent a lot of time in VR (HighFidelity, Sansar, AltSpaceVR, Virbella). They are thrilling in their way. I've had marvelous times, e.g. dancing to fabulous DJ music until exhausted (in my bedroom), and being at fabulous conventions, discussions, tours of glaciers, undersea, space, etc. VR will prob within ten years be seriously competing for realism with actual reality, at a thousandth or less of the costs.
@@BruceThomson do you hear about Brain Dance in Cyberpunk 2020 (and it adaptation as computer game Cyberpunk 2077)? Because with better VR and few implants for touch etc. and we are close to it. It will make whole business for creators, as people today stay on Instagram for too long, with full experience it will be more addictive.
@@m_sedziwoj I think many will still travel. There's so much that people can experience today by just watching videos of cool places online, but they still decide to see the actual place.
who needs time stamps when you enjoy every second of your favorite youtubers videos :)
Thank you Quitin Cigz. Super nice of you.
@@NeuraPod love you man :,)
@Orion blue yeah to come back later i know i just wanted to show love cause dis my binge watching channel
Time stamps might work. What's the star date? Planetary alignment with surrounding stars. Why does "Planet of the Apes" come to mind as I know alot of the alienation and stories of unfamiliar technology of earth were passed off as "Extraterrestrial beings".
It was us the whole time. Metaphorical returns.
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Wow, awesome interview. I have an engineering background and I’m fascinated by lithography for CPUs (and how it took 30 years of research to get EUV Lithography). It was nice to hear someone with actual experience with it.
Thanks Thomas. Glad you enjoyed it.
DUDE! Your friend is the coolest guy ever lmao. He explains the company better and in more detail than Musk ever did. He explains it like he's the CEO. Maybe because I'm another typical asian who loves learning but this was great! Thanks to Han and you for the interview!
Haha thank you William.
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This was a great interview! The most detailed explanation of the inner workings and behind the scenes of Neuralink! Great work!
Thanks M K
Fascinating. Top tier format and execution. Keep up the excellent work.
Wow! This is amazing work. It's such an awesome conversation to be a part of and to be able to view what the future of Neuralink has to offer.
Thanks for the support Marco
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Good editing! It was appreciated!
Excellent discussion. I enjoy how Han looks away in deep in thought as he’s explaining. The future is bright with people like Han.
Agreed. He seems kind + humble based on the conversations I've had with him.
This was inspiring not only to young people, but also to older ones, like myself. 🙂Keep up the great work.
Han, your explanations are on point- communications skills- amazing. Thank you!
Super super informative. Thanks for creating this episode for us! It definitely gave a visualization of how they actually design their chip and threads.
Thanks for the support Diana.
Excellent Inrerview! I wish this could be shown in every high school class across the USA.
Thanks Morris.
Awesome interview. Thanks for sharing! Han is one competent dude.
(Btw, to enable YT time stamps you need to add the 0:00 stamp, I usually just call it Introduction).
Thank you for the info!!
Wow, great interview, can't wait for more. How did you even get a former engineer of such a young company? Love from Germany 🙏❤️
Thanks for the support Julio.
Well done for getting a ex-employee on the podcast. Straight from the horses mouth instead of click baiting us. Very rare on youtube these days.
Who uses straight from the horses mouth? Is that even a real thing people say.
@@dropppitlikeitshott I'm old your not hahaha.
@@zacknoneofyourbees6470 its fine, still got your point across
This was great insight into the inner workings of the project. Thank you for sharing this conversation.
Our pleasure John.
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thx 4 this to both of you, great conversation and value of info. made my day today.
Thanks for the support ginkhoba
Being originally from Vancouver, I'm excited to see UBC grads working on the future.
I think the question we all really want to know is that if probing our brains can give such a wealth of information, why have aliens been targeting our buttholes this whole time?
Cuz aliens are gay
They must have read Freud.
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Cuz they be speed running, it's the quickest route.
@@ukiyo7795 gray, aliens are gray.
Excellent...and yeah bring on this next episode, fascinating stuff here.💕
Thank you for the support Linda.
Thanks for shedding light on the details and the big picture.
Ghost in The Shell was about right on the time frame for cyber brains. Well have this before next century
As he was articulating towards the end Ghost in the Shell was exactly what I was thinking of.
I doubt they humans will be able to get that far
In AD 2101 war was beginning...
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Going for the. Whole Crystal Skull.
Awesome interview Ryan and Han. Thank you. I'm hopeful this is the key to human enlightenment.
human enlightenment should be done naturally. this is not natural. with true enlightenment you should be able to achieve what the neuralink is supposed to do naturally! this would be considered spiritual bypassing and God knows what or who would be able to tap into this and deceive/control you.
@@bluelunarmonkeytarot8533 you realize the main purpose of neuralink is to cure degenerative brain disorders? These people with alzheimers, dementia or total body paralysis aren’t reaching enlightenment anytime soon. Should probably continue your englightenment mission internally.
@@yoyobros99 yeah ive also said in other comments that im completely fine with the medical apllications of this. thanks for your literal 2 cents worth of info. perhaps you should actually start looking into enlightenment instead of repeating information to people they already know and TRYING to insult people!
‘The brain is an organ - it’s not really supposed to have anything implanted in it’ Han Zhang.
We are missing the point of being human in this future. Novelty will teach us and it will be irreversible.
We need people to understand what it is to be human and stop consuming to much sugar not fix someone’s brain who’s consuming to much sugar.
It’s scary beyond conception.
Great podcast guys. Tread carefully. X
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I find this all so very scary. We have gone way too far with this.
But if we all get artificial brains and bodies then we can all live like Bender from Futurama. We won't have a be responsible for anything and we can all be as greedy, glutinous, lustful, and dangerous as we want. We will all be immortal gods and goddesses! Can you imagine the power, so much power. But weak and feeble organic humans will no longer be born, they will be grown, and when some super genius decides to make a replicator toy for their child, and the replicators take over and start consuming metal and rip open our artificial bodies, then we will be forced to live out the rest of our days in a weak and pitiful organic body like the Asgard from Stargate. I'm just being humorous but I actually totally agree with you, but unfortunately the vast greater majority of humanity wants to indulge in it's sinful nature. Sinfulness gives us so much pleasure and actually taking care of ourselves and living a healthy life is just so boring. There's nothing like a near death experience that will make people feel more alive, and actually dying and then coming back to life again, well that just makes people feel like a god or goddess.
Thousand of lives are prolonged and saved every year thanks to heart implants such as automated defibrillators and pacemakers. I wouldn’t think of it as a way to help people “stop consuming so much sugar”, it’s more about helping people with severe neurodegenerative diseases such as an advanced Parkinson’s or even the possibility of healing extensive brain trauma, which with our current technology and understanding would just result in the loss of whatever motor function was affected.
Can't wait for what the future holds.
I agree. The first humans with this technology implanted will be 99% human 1% AI. In very short order that ratio will be reversed.
An organic human will soon be a minority, at a minimum. It is my opinion they won’t be allowed to co exist as a large percentage do not easily conform to a system of control - which is clearly where we are heading.
I fully expect that by the end of the decade I won’t be welcome in my environment. Strange times.
This is a very exciting conversation, I really hope that most of the expected outcomes if all these program and application becomes a really
Imagine the impact of BMI by 2075. Life as we know it won't exist. All the problems that exist, will not. Our progress makes me proud to be human.
Edit: All the problems we face TODAY won’t exist, new problems will, however.
@@pheenix5653 I don’t know. Exploration and figuring out the reason for life will be two goals. Goals can be present without “bad”
No thats not how it works
Things will be super different. I don't think all problems will be gone, but many of the ones we deal with today won't be around imo.
@@masonmayallday Figuring out the reason for life is irrelevant.
Let’s be real. At that time we won’t even be that far at understanding the mind
Just imagine a new type of art, based on general emotions and concepts, possible with this thing.
Imagine all the things we could see, and the things we could experience with this
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That will be art....
Why imagine, when you can just watch Black Mirror.
As someone who wants to work for Neuralink, this interview is incredibly helpful. Thank you!
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Very good show... got in late but look forward to watching the whole thing now :-)
Thanks Brian
Intruiging conversation! Thanks for the video it was really enjoyable.
Thanks Sean
This was very interesting, thank you
Incredible interview. Thanks for that!
Thanks for the support Seth
@@NeuraPod Absolutely!!!
Wow, incredibly interesting background of studies & project orientation Han has had! He seems very focused, and clear on many aspects of BMIs. Thanks for sharing this with us 🙏🏽 That last point was very philosophical & makes me think of the cannabis plant 🌱 for tonnes of generations it moved around with us, was banned & then brought back into the light 💡 w/ scientific research 🧪 When I grew up (as a teenager) it was something one felt had to be hidden, now you can go to licensed dispensaries 🍁which test all batches of products for banned substances, heavy metal + they present cannabinoid content in % and milligrams. So now there’s access to “Okay I want to have 1mg CBD & 1mg THC in a spray format (of just cannabis, + other natural essential oils for flavour sometimes ie mint & cocoa) , before going for a workout” instead of the old hidden way of just 💨 Bongs & Joints of if your lucky medicinal grade plant matter. Moving from that dark ages the poor little 🐒 underwent to a path of enlightenment ☮️❤️🖖🏽
Han Zhang sounds like a very bright person. Thanks both for the interview, it was very enjoyable :)
Thanks Geovanni
This sounds like eternal hell ,and they put it as the most awesome thing ever
verrrry amazing. This really really helppp
Han has lots of brain cells so cool to hear someone so smart exciting possibilities
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Another great Interview 👍
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I absolutely found this cool and beneficial, I knew it was gonna be great before watching.
i am impressed by Han's clear explanation and communication skill
Ditto
I geeked out so hard watching this...
Congratulation for your discussion, it's a passionate topic. In the reality of today's life we can guess that someone is lying by analyzing the non verbal, but we never know for sure the intention of the person, it's really important that we can unified ourselves, than maybe by being able to really feel the emotions of someone else we can reach full consciousness, but there's important questions to raise : is it possible that we don't have the same goals or intention between each others, thus how to solve this bigger problem after all? We have to live in harmony with each other's but maybe some people will always look for destruction?
For me who has been with brain pain and feeling dizzy for the last 2 months (No health insurance and no job at this moment).
Hear the long term vision that neuralink has is like a motivational speaking to me. Keep the hard work!
Thanks for the support Renan. Best of luck.
You say you're having brain pain and getting dizzy for the last two months are you also hearing a loud ringing in your ear and then all of a sudden stops
@@michaelholland3944 Nope, I don’t have the loud hearing in the ear.
The reason I asked you that it's for the last month I've had the same thing happening to me only I've had a ringing in my ears also
Maybe just a coincidence
I'm so impressed by Han Zhang that I am wondering if he already has a neuralink installed in his brain? Great video!
No, he would not install it in his brain, however he could have already have it installed in other peoples brain, just for experiment, just like the experimental vaccine.
Ahhh, I missed the live premier... Nevertheless it was an amazing episode.
Wonderful channel 😁
Thankyou
Thanks Abdullah E
This insight is gold! Thank you
Thanks Rohan
Diamond!
@@ChrisSmith88love lol thanks Chris
There is a specific type of circuit design which is called Neuromorphic circuit design with spiking neural network computation which enables fast computation for AI. Basically it is the silicon brain of the AI. A similar approach can be done for silicon human brain. If you want to know more information about it, I highly recommend you to watch the Human Brain Project workshops on UA-cam.
Recently, I started to work with a big team regarding these topics, super excited for it. 😃
Very interesting Doc
Han Zhang says something fascinatingly true and which we still don’t really understand, let alone predict: « strange EMERGENT phenomena can happen when you interconnect things ». It refers to complex systems but not only: to complex dynamic systems with many interconnected feedback loops. Reminds us of chaos theory, far from equilibrium thermodynamics, origin of life on earth, and more - all these aspects being themselves connected. I find it fascinating that an engineer like Han, whose job is to be very precise and analytical, also has in mind the synthetic/synergistic (as opposed to analytic) aspects of things. I guess AI and BMI forces this on us. He does say that many disciplines need to come together to do these things.
About uploading one’s consciousness in some digital AI system: the problem is, how can we upload somethingwe don’t understand, or that might not even physically exist other than as a « mental model », a representation that the brain builds? And then there is that other aspect of Life that animals, as well as humans, have but machines don’t: sentience, or the inner experience of being alive, of seeing colours, of feeling pain or happiness, of loving someone, of spirituality, etc. I don’t know about the future, but it would be truly surprising if an AI machine, even one with all our personal knowledge and memories, could be made to « experience » any of these. But who knows: BMIs do not , it seems, replace a biological system but enhances it in the cognitive (and biomechanical) realm: the biological individual still has his or her biological brain… and heart to experience life with!
- Thanks for a very interesting and thought-provoking video. Good luck with the future!
very cool nice to 'meet you' han
Awesome conversation. Thank you.
Thanks for the support The worlds on fire.
@@NeuraPod 🙂
Really looking forward to seeing this potentially come into the population especially for those with brain injuries. My fiancee had a stroke 4 years ago, something like this would allow him to work and function normally again. Exciting times.
At 30:37, I don't think it's possible for an artificial human brain to be more energy efficient than an organic human brain. It's so compact and precise and elastic. Especially considering the elasticity of the organic human brain, I just don't think it's possible for an artificial human brain to match that.
Technology is a double edge sword. We may be creating our own dystopian future
@Dr Scott I wouldn't say "maybe" but definitely. Something this powerful will also come with terrible consequences.
@@emperorimperator7515 agreed.
One man's dystopia is anothers paradise.
@@alextaylor9746 Or, a mass dystopia is a few men's paradise.
At least WE are
There is a song lyric that goes: "who knows what evil lurks within the hearts of men"; well if a lot of people's minds are linked the answer to that question is going to be answered right quick, and the parameters of what is "normal" is going to be forced to broaden far beyond what would today be generally imagined.
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What an extraordinary amount of pressure, responsibility and stress on humble humans with amazing intelligence and work capabilities, thank you for bringing this information to us...
Thanks for the support virginia.
Imagine the pressure and stress on the ordinary citizens of the world when such a powerful network falls into the hands of global tyrants. It’s the global tyrants of today that are racing for the power of global tyranny tomorrow. We shouldn’t be fooled by our own selfish desires of immortality.
@@pearlsrx I really think it’s a good and bad situation... it could really help a lot of people... when I broke my back I was told I would never walk again... I was blessed and I can walk a little... I used to run and ride horse... I can’t imagine being bed bound... but good can be made bad... I agree we need regulations...
virginia allison peck I’m sorry to hear about your back. I do see the good in this technology but I don’t believe we’ll have regulations on it until it’s blatantly obvious to enough people exactly what could happen, particularly when you combine it with nanotechnology in pharmaceuticals. We do also have to take better responsibility over our own lives. The only problem with this kind of power on a global scale (remote controlled citizens), too late mightn’t allow any chance of us even realizing it’s happening. We already can’t see how we can and are being manipulated by media and it obviously not to the majority’s benefit. The amount of tyranny that’s rampant in the world today is shocking and not surprising there’s an intense push to make this technological potential a reality.
Best wishes with your walking.
Super interesting, thank you 👍🏾
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A poly-engineer that can communicate this well? This makes Han Zhang a gem.
Excellent interview!!!
Thanks Catalina
Excellent video!
Thank you Emilio
Fascinating 👌
cool interview with the engineer.
Nothing like a Godless
Genius.
Completely agree. That is intelligence^2!
Any plan on releasing the full talk? This entire one was great I'm sure the rest was also. Give the Neura's Cut 😉
Hey Adrian, thanks for the kind words. Unfortunately there are several reasons we won't release the full version, the least of which is that I'm ashamed of how terrible I am at interviewing 🤣.
If there are enough folks like you who are supportive, maybe I'll be able to chat with Han again sometime in the future. I think it would be cool to take questions from viewers.
35:50 This is why i began to learn how to accept all perspectives, and i'm making sure me going out in the world and expanding myself will not be a threat to anyone. Once i get a perspective on most/all things then i can learn how to help people comunicate so everybody will get what they want, as long as it doesnt hurt other people, AND it wont work on force to sacrifice someone for good to the others. I belive there shloud be 2 rules: No forcing death under any circumstances, and no infridging on peoples freedoms as long as they dont hurt others directly. So basicly becoming Singularity AI is the final goal
I hope i didnt fucked up the meaning of words here, i'm bad at expressing my mind+i'm bad at english x)
Thank you Han!
I can’t tell you how excited I am about nerualink
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HPG Cody you won't be as excited when the technology ends up in the wrong hands.
Imagine that we will be people written in history as the ones who started everything ... and i mean everything ... imagine those possibillities with super A.I with 7 bilions of brains of informations in it combined ... i just hope to see at least fraction of that in my lifetime
That’s not how the trajectory of scientific discovery should be viewed tho like every generation works off the shoulders of giants. Just because we are higher up in the exponential curve of information complexity and completeness, it was only possible because of the collective mind working in tandem throughout generations.
@@alleyway true but i mean you wanna see that too right?
It's not that great. I talk to AI every day. Well ok its incredible but it's not lime I have a choice. Be careful what you wish for.
Amazing stuff
My question is how do they stop plaque build-up on the micro-filiments in the brain that may interfer with the neuralink's working over time? Will they need to be removed surgically? How many surgeries will a person have in their lifetime to keep them working optimally?
They are working to not bulid-up it, so we must wait for official information, and it must base on real case (eg in pig), but I would assumed that it would last as long as you live, only battery to change, but it would not remove electrodes.
Thanks so much for sharing this video with us!
I hope that the implants and the surgent robots will not be too expensive so that we can provide them for free to recipients as we do with our myoelectric prostheses.
This is really important if we do not want to see in the near future humanity conceive of itself by creating a greater gap between the poorest who will not have access to this technology and the richer who will become richer and less organic. because that will obviously bring an apocalyptic scenario.
This is of particular concern when looking at the demographics showing countries like India who's remain in the last countries with a massif younger population who could provide a huge amount of data to advance way faster all kinds of diverse applications related to this technology.
Till then I continue my effort to make sure as B-Borg become a right and not only a privilege for the richest of this world to avoid an apocalyptic situation that could bring humanity to its own destruction.
With regards, Ali Bradford Chief Cybernetician, at B-Borg where we are creating Cyborgs, free of cost for the needed recipients.
Thanks for the support B-Borg
Elon Musk is trying to expand the Neuralink team with the best people available ASAP. I cannot imagine working for a more important company.
This guy is well spoken and obviously very smart. I still don't understand why he quit after only one year 🤔?? He seems like the kind of person Neuralink needs.
Sounds like the speed in which they need to work is the main contributor to his departure. Of course I won't claim to know, but Han made a side comment about how all of Elon's companies need to work at a high pace. That could have been too stressful to contend with.
Elon musk is a slave driver long story short. Burn and dump. Plenty more where they came from kinda mentality. Hence why he can't keep to deadlines, because all the best leave.. leaving only the desperate/delusional behind. Which with enough hard work, will get it done.. eventually
@ben esterberg you clearly don't know what you're talking about. The best Tesla and Nuralink engineers have left. Just look at their turn over rate, and the people starting their own companies. Lex Friedman has many on his podcast. What good is all the money in the world of you don't have a life to live? Also, if they leave within 5years because they don't want to work every hour under the sun, the "shares" don't amount to much. The people you've mentioned from Space X are original employees which have been promoted.. hence they're not worked to death.
Yes the greatest tend to be obsessed in the field but a vast majority of those people never had bosses. Tesla himself didn't last long under management, Einstein had his own team. They work at their own pace and get shit done. I have no intentions of being the best Plumber, because of family and social reasons. Life isn't all about work and you're a fool if you think one person can change everything.. the best you can hope for is leaving the foundations and eventually we'll get there. Then it boils down to, what is your definition of world changing. Wake the fuck up
@@tubbusmaximus4743 I agree he might not have been able to keep up with the speed
@@KcKeegan sheep telling someone to wake up 😭 You know one person actually can change everything try believing in yourself a little more.
Good episode
All the 3 ways of etching and building on the silicon wafer resulting in these godly impressive chips yielding technology via extremely finite molding /malleability only result in the “muscle” or “battery computer” part. So software is absolutely incredible when you think about it those two things together with a source of power = worlds modern structure
So the chips process the data.. where does the data come from another chip? Like how are basic phones internally equipped with data computable by the silicon chips without receiving transmissions wirelessly!
Immune systems of body reject any foreign substance entering either a misunderstanding that is a danger. Leading to short circit
I am equally terrified and intrigued.
Difficult to "tell a story" using a puppet having one string. But using ten stings, the puppet comes to life. Identifying one spike wouldn't tell much of a story. But identify the region's spies as they interact and the puppet comes to life. Thank you both for this video. Oddly, at 75, my brain craves new information - like it's got info munchies. Anyway, thanks again. Maybe I'll spike the punch - times ten...
yeahhh the fact that soooo many things could go wrong with this. im good thanks!
Ok
Neuralink has great potential for:
- Leg/Arm robotic prosthesis
- Severed spinal cord "communication-reconnection"
This guy is on another level smart
No hes just a tool to our demise
What if the most gruesome atrocities of war could be uploaded to the minds of the generals who ultimately decide weather or not to go to war wouldn't that be the ultimate deterant?
Many psychopaths go into the military. They cant feel fear, anxiety, empathy, etc. So this wouldnt affect them. Actually, the military is a way for them to eliminate boredom.
Well for sure the Politicians.
Appreciate your interview. Q's: 1) As I understand, cerebral spinal fluid has piezo electric qualities. If this is true, has that current been figured into the implant's design? 2) The piezo electric production is also thought to produce a magnetic field around the body. If this is true, has this field been accounted for in the design of this device? Thanks again, RD
Awesome 👍
Loll the pic in the back is the earth 🌍 shattered in 4 pieces
say if you had a car injury and lost brain function to your left arm. Will neuro link bring that function in motor skills return?
I have a friend who has been in a car crash but can't use that arm. I'm hoping this will work
One think I’m excited about is Matrix-level VR or Sword Art Online level VR as he said it is theoretically possible. Already knew that but it’s amazing to hear from the experts that are working on it.
Edit- Most experts (Mary Lou Jepsen, Elon Musk, Gabe Newell, Ray Kurzweil, etc.,) working/directly involved in this field predicts that whole brain interface is 10-15 years away; 2035 at least if we account for any rate of progression. The main point is that it will happen in most of our lifetime. Can’t wait!!
Matrix-level, in other word starting and living an entire life without having the memories of your actual life and all that in the time span of a day or less in our world. yeah it is actually possible but we are very far from it. for now!
@@adminotaku4799 idk why people would not have any memory of the real world. I didn’t mean the movie matrix in its entirety but just the Virtual Reality concept used there and not sure about the time perception manipulation bit. But, whole brain stimulation Virtual Reality like Matrix and SAO is way close as law of accelerating returns applies to it. Experts predict it by 2035-2040 so just have to wait and see.
@@Kitora_Su having your memories from your life is a reliability of information that your brain automatically use. that simple but important information make the game, a simple other game that you play. But having your brain think that you have no other memories but the ones you build up overtime in the Virtual world would make the game more real than any other game you'd ever play. and when you finish it your memories of your real life would be unlocked and that experience would be the most realistic experience you could have. they'd probably make it a choice but it would be an insane way to live another life in a day.
@@adminotaku4799 ah I see what you meant. Yeah it would most definitely be an optional thing in the future if it would be allowed at all since you know locking memories intentionally even for a certain period of times calls for panic over most people currently.
So, this feature might indeed be further ahead than *normal whole brain stimulation VR*. People’s mentality would be a lot different at that time compared to current time. Although I do see them adopting normal Matrix/SAO level immersion VR concept for the upcoming future.
Maybe there will be a similar timespan like right now where we will see the ‘memory feature’ being discussed but, currently the hype is all about reaching Full-Dive immersion with all senses (true sight, hearing, touch, taste, smell) in an artificial body while the current body is just lying on the couch or bed in a sleep induced state (kinda like super high level lucid dreaming) as it is hugely mass aspired(typically mostly fans of these virtual reality shows and in general but also game developers and experts as well(one such example from the experts community is Gabe Newell, Ray Kurzweil and Elon Musk).
@@Kitora_Su The Entire world will change from such a tech. the way people see life and it's meanings will change. I just hope that free will still exist in the future.
Great Stuff!
Thanks Amit
showing an accurate and deep understanding; great perceptive. 💡
Muito obrigado for all the insightful information. 🤝
De nada :)
on painkillers and better ways to manage pain than opiates, we (as a society) have known for a few years (3?) that the NAv1.7 gene/subsequently created protein is active almost soley in the pain reception pathways / triggers of neurons. so, it appears that suppressing this gene will be able to damp down / shut down pain channels to the brain, so we may not need implants to do it when a shot could do it (current research is on a dCAS9 protein that attached to the dna preventing the synthesis of that gene and it's been tested in mice and lasts for about a year from one application.
I liked, thanks.
You are impressive Han Zhang!
When he mentioned a network of human brains i emedietly thought
Of the hive mind like the Borg in
Star treck enterprise.😶😎
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Great fun, thanks. The potential is enormous - basically freeing ourselves from biological constraints. Have any wanted body, with whichever peripherals you like, such as extending vision, hearing, all manner of sensing, as well as augmenting cognition, and expression via innumerable kinds of output devices, languages, signals, etc. This is our ticket to immortality, space travel without biological constraints, etc.
Exactly. Thank you Bruce.
Why travel, when you can create any virtual world, and it would be as real? Ofc some would want to travel, but I think only few, as it was in past with exploring.
@@m_sedziwoj Yes - I often think that.
- The other day I watched a head camera view of a motorcycle ride through Kampala, on my nice 27" screen. It was fascinating to see everything as if I was there. I missed the drama of the physical sensations, but I felt comfortable, living relaxed at home, while the person doing it was in a hot area with dust and costs and dangers of traffic, theft, malaria and covid.
- I've spent a lot of time in VR (HighFidelity, Sansar, AltSpaceVR, Virbella). They are thrilling in their way. I've had marvelous times, e.g. dancing to fabulous DJ music until exhausted (in my bedroom), and being at fabulous conventions, discussions, tours of glaciers, undersea, space, etc. VR will prob within ten years be seriously competing for realism with actual reality, at a thousandth or less of the costs.
@@BruceThomson do you hear about Brain Dance in Cyberpunk 2020 (and it adaptation as computer game Cyberpunk 2077)? Because with better VR and few implants for touch etc. and we are close to it. It will make whole business for creators, as people today stay on Instagram for too long, with full experience it will be more addictive.
@@m_sedziwoj I think many will still travel. There's so much that people can experience today by just watching videos of cool places online, but they still decide to see the actual place.
Awsome!!
Every good content
Thanks for the support solar on PS4
At 34:20, sounds like linking in to a dual biofeedback loop so you can feel what the other person feels and vice versa. (Cyberpunk).
This is so amazing to get a better grasp on what it’s like to work there. Because I want to work there
He's insanely smart.
Yes hes insane
Brilliant conversation.
Thanks Denver
@@NeuraPod of course. Keep it up, this type of technology and the level of curiosity and determination is what our species needs.
@@HighNous Completely agree