So many answers to "how can a non binary person win a womens wrestling title?!" Including "Because tits" "By three count" "Because they are over" Perhaps most importantly "Because wrestling isn't real you manchild. Men's titles have been won by: A woman, an undead zombie funeral director, a dinosaur, and The Great Khali, but THIS is where your suspension of disbelief dies?"
Smaller teams buying assets to plug holes in their skills or their timetables to use in good faith in their work is presumably the reason asset stores exist in the first place
@@ASpaceOstrich for prototyping and hobbying you'd just use either free for personal use or super simple self-made assets, little reason to buy an asset from an asset store if you're not gonna use it in your product
Yeah cause a lot of the game designers that really have a vision or have the budget make there own assets to begin with I don’t see a lot of triple A publishers or even smaller indie publishers with a solid vision taking assets
I honestly thought MandaloreGaming had made up the song as a troll. To find out that it's really real is even more chilling. The Mystery of the Druids video was also mind melting.
Considering they immediately jumped on it and started replacing all of the assets, I'm inclined to take the studio's word that they didn't realize they'd bought stolen goods. It's a really sucky situation. :s
Exactly. Unlike so many others who when caught with their metaphorical pants off just double down on lies and denial... all while still stinging their never even bothering to pull their freaking pants up. When actual effort is on display, and more importantly when action is made to take accountability for and rectify the infringement, benefit of the doubt should be given.
Yes, but haven't at least part of development team played Elden Ring and thought: "Hang on? I might have seen this before. Did From Software actually use the same asset we have just bought?" Now, many game developers are not game players themselves, so it is possible that they did not play Elden Ring to such extent that this similarity was obvious to them. Maybe they did play one of the earlier games, but not Elden Ring perhaps?
@@LarixusSnydes I suspect that when you're working for a really long time on a game, you kind of get tunnel vision and wind up assuming that because everything you're working with is supposed to be above board, you must just be imagining things, and you just crack on because letting yourself dwell on it too much would drive you nuts and force you to second-guess more and more things to the point that you wouldn't be able yo get anything done. Granted, I come from music, where accidentally repeating certain established ideas is sort of par for the course even if imitating an especially notable musical gesture without transforming it is obviously bad form, and I have myself made the novice songwriter mistake of unwittingly reproducing elements of a song I like in my own work without registering it until pretty deep into the process, so I get how you can wind up oblivious to what should be really obvious.
@@LarixusSnydes I have played way too many hundred hours of each From game and frankly I wouldn't notice. I don't even notice when From reuses From animations; I don't know how people spot those games using recycled animations instead of just looking kind of similar. Unless the devs are breaking the From animations down frame-by-frame for some reason, as the wiki-editing chunk of the playerbase is, what would ever tip them off to the difference between 'similar' and 'same'?
@@LarixusSnydes 99% of people wouldn't notice two completely unrelated games using the same animations. When people see a sword swing, they just see a sword swing. They don't dig through all the memories of every game they've played and try to connect dots.
Jason Steele, aka Filmcow, happened to put out a short video not too long ago about stolen sound effects in audio asset packs. He warned using such sounds could still get you in trouble even if you bought them in good faith from the storefront. Here we are with that situation pretty much playing out exactly.
If you've got way more time: hbomberguy's OOF video goes in depth into how complicated ownership of sounds can be, and how a sound bought in good faith can lead to a rabbit hole of legal ownership, creative ownership etc. It then goes on to talk about said owner being a compulsive liar and a complete weirdo, so if nothing else it's entertaining as well as educational.
Me, who cares almost nothing about Stephanie's wrestling career, but is still glad it makes them happy: Did you get the belt? *Stephanie got the belt* FUCK YEAH! (I appreciate the correction, but I did edit the post. Also I've been aware wrestling is a little fake since I was in middle school. That doesn't mean people don't put work in. So yeah, still happy.)
I don’t really care much about wrestling, but I do like hearing Steph’s updates on it. It’s like hearing about a favorite cousin’s accomplishments. I like having them in the Jimquisition.
This landlord character is instantly my favorite side character in the Sterling lore. Also, I think this is one of the best vids you've made in recent memory!
Hard disagree there. Jim Sterling used that story to justify Jim's hatred for and Jim's caste-based bigotry against landlords, painting all landlords as evil, something that Jim has been promoting for years, even going so far as to say that they are not people.
@@SeksBott69 Calling a group of people, not people is a historically well-known method of demonization to paint them all with a broad stroke as all being evil and at worst advocating for their deaths. With your leech insult, it sounds like you agree with Jim's hatred and caste-based bigotry and believe that all landlords are evil. If I am right then f*ck you. Not all landlords are evil and f*ck anyone who says otherwise.
@Connor Bredall It's because landlords are all scum. People shouldn't be allowed to own 10+ properties and get insanely rich while their tenants live paycheck to paycheck because the landlord decided to up the rent because they feel like getting extra money.
The wildest thing about Limbo of the Lost's sordid history is that it started development on the Amiga, with a demo featuring an early version of one of the scenes that made it into the game nearly two decades later. Not only that but the Amiga demo also featured content that was plagiarized from another Amiga title, leading to a sizeable backlash that meant the project went on an indefinite hiatus before reappearing in the form we know today and immediately getting slapped with goodness knows how many cease and desist letters for copyright infringement. To this day I can't imagine how they thought they could get away with pulling off that kind of blatant infringement in the mid 2000s when they couldn't even pass off assets from a lesser known game on the Amiga as their own work back before everyone and their mum was on the internet. It's hardly the behind the scenes exposé that Stephanie was keen to do but Mandalore Gaming's video going over the content of that game is quite the ride and it's where I learnt about the demo I mentioned above.
@@zyriantel9601 you'd think that, after they couldn't pull the wool over the eyes of the readership of Amiga CD 32 Magazine, they'd have avoided pulling the same trick with dozens of the most successful games ever released but there you go. Incidentally if you haven't heard of the Amiga CD 32 console, which is basically just a slightly upgraded Amiga with a CD drive and no keyboard that was sold as a home game console, that description should give an indication of how small the readership of the magazine would be. It was infamous for most of the library being Amiga games burnt onto a CD, meaning that games were released for the platform which required you to hit a key on the keyboard before they would progress past the title screen. A keyboard that you couldn't plug in to the system because it only had ports for joypads.
I remember after Dragon Age: Inquisition came out someone declared one of the romance cards was traced. They demonstrated this by layering it over the stock photo they found to show how close they lined up. The romance card in question showed a gauntlet holding a pendant, while the stock photo was of a hand. Certainly, the hand fit within the gauntlet, and I’d go as far as to say it was *definitely* the primary reference for the art. It might even have been used as a base layer to make sure the anatomy was consistent. But the only lines that actually lined up were the pendant’s strings, and between the heavy stylization of DA:I’s art style, the fact the gauntlet was obviously drawn free-hand, and that the hand photo was literally from a library of poses, references, & stock images for artists to use, I was always kinda bothered by how frothing-at-the-mouth pissed people were. Nobody was actually going through the credits to see if the original photo team were mentioned anywhere (to be fair, I never did either; do you *remember* how long those credits were?) and it seemed pretty damn transformed to me. Just sayin’.
To me, that seems like just trying to pick a fight and/or find a problem. Artists use reference materials on a regular basis, especially those just starting out. I would personally say the heavy stylization of the rest of the image is enough to set it apart and make it transformative enough to be its own piece. I mean... you can't exactly copyright a hand, or a pose with said hand. Not only that, hands are annoying to draw! (I'm a fledgling artist myself so I speak from experience here) I do recognize that profiting off of the work changes things dramatically both morally and in the eyes of the law, but like I said, I think it's transformative enough on both counts.
@@TalesOfWar IIRC the game is meant to be set on an island in the Bermuda Triangle, presumably in that limbo between the realms of the living and the dead. Couple that with Destiny and Fate remarking that Briggs is "a lone [mortal] warrior", and that "the dead do not welcome the presence of the living", and it's easy to get those crypty vibes. At least, that's what little I've learned. Despite it brain-poisoning me, I've never taken the plunge myself, since I'm not much of a point-and-click adventurer. I never managed to finish the Discworld adventure games, but to be fair I was probably like 6 or 7 at the time.
* JSS shows scenes from a 2007 asset flip * Me: "What can be worse than this?" * JSS tells of their Luftwaff strawhat wetsuit landlord * Me: "...oh, that."
Back when I was at Ringling, plagiarism was a one way ticket to immediate expulsion in the illustration department. My senior year one of the guys in my class was caught plagiarizing his THESIS but his mommy was a world famous interior designer or some shit (he was an asshole and literally lived in a million dollar condo facing the ocean. A million dollars in '03-'07.) so the school didn't want to chance a lawsuit by expelling him. The whole thing was a toxic drama in the senior class. The prof figured out a way to keep him from graduating by giving him an incomplete for not having enough unique pieces in his thesis, just different color schemes of the same drawing. It was genius.
Barely related: just last week I had a D&D session and, for the first time in ages, we went up against skeletons. It was then I realized that, because of JSS, we would never again fight skeletons without someone chanting that Skeleton Warriors jingle every other turn. Thank you, Steph, for this epic boon.
I truely can relate to this subject. I have had projects with big asks and a very tight deadline (as in due for the same day the request was submitted) which had me going on "free for commercial use" and with "no attribution required" asset web sites. We usually ask legal but they're often too busy to respond on time for the very short due date. We try to do our personal due diligence but there's never a 100% guarantee that a free asset site hasn't taken their material from a copyrighted illustrated dictionary for example.
IDK when this started ( i usually listen to episodes) but I really appreciate the use of open dyslexic as the font for text. Big thanks to whoever made that choice
Okay, I'm back. Looks like they have been using a different font for the last couple of episodes with the letters squished together. This looks like the first one with open dyslexic. I am happy to be corrected.
I humbly and in gratitude welcome the Discourse Duck into the Jimquisition Canon. Much like the Cornflake Homunculus it will live rent-free in my head forevermore. Thank God for you Steph.
Pretty sure if you put DidYouKnowGaming on the case they could find out what the story is with Limbo of the Lost. They might even let you do the voiceover for what they find.
I don't watch every Jimquisition but when I saw Limbo of the Lost in the thumbnail I instinctively clicked And I do hope one day you will actually make that Limbo of the Lost documentary, incomplete or not
I'm not a fan of wrestling. I just never could get into it. But hearing about your wrestling career and seeing the short videos makes me happy. I might even go to one of your shows if I was in England
That sucks for those devs because the amount of people who do follow ups to stories they see are few and far between. So, for a lot of people, they'll have only seen the initial story about the plagiarism and never what happened next. Shitty situation.
The MandaloreGaming channel has a video on "Limbo of the Lost" from several years ago. He called it a rare example of a "so bad, it's good" video game! I just found out that the MitchManix channel also made its own video on "Limbo of the Lost." Anyone who wants to hear more about the game should check those videos out!
Damn. I've been worried for a bit about how many game assets being distributed were outright stolen, but this is a wild case. I can't say I anticipated that the ones popping up in large official storefronts were gonna be stolen from a GOTY. The most I'd noticed was a few years ago when a bunch of terrible cookie-cutter indie horrors were all inexplicably using a music box rendition of the _Sailor Moon_ theme song, apparently without realizing what it was. Never did figure out who was distributing that as some kind of free spooky stock music rotfl.
Probably should remind people more often what asset flips are as there are still so many who throw it around with really knowing what the term actually means.
I was in a discussion about Dune recently. About how House Ordos is a odd duck with being a case of a game adaptation taking liberties with non-canonicity for fun, while these days that wouldn't happen because of internet (nerd) culture getting upset over authenticity... Then some rando butted in claiming it is because of "Catering to woke audiences!!". seriously?!? You know that word has lost all meaning when even a bunch of geeks getting too invested in authenticity are also called "Woke"...
That Limbo of the Lost song reminds me of something adult swim would write. I was never into wrestling but I like hearing the wrestling bits cause you seem really happy about your wrestling career and it's nice to see
I remember downloading Limbo of the Lost back when it came out as I was both fascinated by the story behind the game and that fantastic ending song. I soon realised the story surround the game was much, much more interesting than the game itself. Kinda like that Threatin band.
I know, I just KNOW, I'm going to catch myself humming, 'the king of limbo' and chuckling to myself like a crazy person tomorrow Banger of an episode Steph
This whole affair smacks of the Roblox Oof sound effect, which was ripped from Messiah for PC, slapped clandestinely onto an assets CD and sold to the creators of Roblox, who were none the wise. Except this time a small company's on the receiving end, and not a disgustingly evil multi-billion dollar exploiter of child labor. Oh, and Tommy Tallarico isn't involved... this time.
You know what Limbo of the Lost really reminds me of? Tabletop RPG games played with a friend group. Completely out there story-bits. Horrific monstrosities being voiced by a guy trying his best ok? Surprise musical number. Literally everything being done with a twinkle in the eye and a shit-eating smirk.
Ah the skeleton warriors, how I've missed you. Whenever a xenomorph warrior appears in aliens fire team elite that theme song runs through my head and I have James Stephanie Sterling to thank for it. Today I give you double the thanks Steph!
You really say what needs to be said. I wish every mainstream news would report on the things you do. Enbies CAN in fact have whatever we want and it NEEDS to be recognized.
ive long loved (?) limbo of the lost. it was the game that made me realise i have an extremely keen ear for sound effects and the only good part of my memory is being able to recall where i heard that sound effect
Steph, you can't do that this to me. You can't give me the nazi-memorabilia room mate, the sex pest landlord, then trasisition to Limbo fo the Lost, and wrap it all up with *that fucking song!* This is a health hazard 🤣 I'm gonna die laughing in horror
10:30 He's here to eat cat food and file spurious lawsuits...and he's all out of cat food. And Limbo of the Lost is so weird and long ago that I forgot it utterly.
I had to stop this video midway and start over because I was laughing so hard at the singing goblin that I almost had an asthma attack. Thank you Steph and team; y’all are amazing!
PLEASE cover the absolute insanity that is Limbo of the Lost in full. Mandalore definitely did it justice, but I would still watch you reviewing it as well. Honestly, I wouldn't mind you covering any older video games in long format.
Sorry Steph, I had to rewind the video a bit because I was in shock from your story about your landlord and had to make sure I wasn’t having an acid flashback while watching your video. Also you talking about assets makes me feel oddly nostalgic, like watching an old show you grew up with. Also congrats on the title!!!
@@Eisenbison That literally has nothing to do with what I was talking about. Did you actually watch the video to the point where they told their story, or did you just see “landlord” and jump at an income statement?
well here we are, after all these years, who would have thought it could ever pass again that I would have that fucking king of limbo song stuck in my head again
@Edy Glockenspiel the code is just Steph and Conrad screaming "WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP" over and over into his ears for 16 hours. He's probably fully nude.
Congrats on the wrestling win! And also the great video! I hope one day you'll get to make that docco you want about that insane game whose name I've already forgotten but whose end song is now burned into my brain for all eternity!
Steph, thank you so much for this. With all the legislation about in the states and being in the south, things are very scary, and I went back and watched a ton of your old Greenlight trailer videos just for some comfy vibes, and it's so lovely to see some of the classics on here. Forever a fan, friend, and a thanker of fucking GOD for you, Steph Sterling.
If Epic sold it but didn't own it, uh pretty sure that's theft. Taking money for something you don't own and then saying it's the dev's responsibility to make sure the asset isn't' owned by someone else..... And Epic wonders why people still won't buy games from them.
Congratulations to our lovely Commander Sterling! I really still hope to see you wrestle live someday, if I can ever drag my carcass over to the UK. In the meanwhile, I'll accept the scraps of any match that happens to be put online! The belt looks good on ya! That aside, watching companies toss the blame across to each other like a live grenade makes me sick. Money is supposed to make the world go 'round, but all I see is it dragging us all down into a pit of despair and rhetoric. I'm glad you're here to drag those with ears to listen and minds that are open and curious into the light.
@@meetoo594 it's a bit more complicated than that. Wrestling is like a TV soap, it's got storyline and fan favourites. Make the wrong move, give someone a title without them 'earning it' in-story, and you risk alienating fans. And that also means that storyline are somewhat flexible - if fans don't like something, or really react to something, you need to pivot the story around that. So did winning the championship match matter? Not really. But being popular enough that awarding you the title is feasible is a pretty big achievement.
@@BleachFan2588 Also: being talented enough at being a wrestler. Not necessarily wrestling. It's the ability to a. have enough actual fighting skill to look real and b. a wide suite of acting and performance skills.
@@BleachFan2588 thanks for the explanation. So I guess the storyline can change after every bout depending on audience reaction rather than predetermined from the start even though every move is pre scripted in advance?
@@meetoo594 Every move isn't prescripted - that's just not feasible. Nobody has time to learn a fight choreography for a single match, especially with a place like WWE having them do so many matches in a short time. You know who's supposed to win, and in what fashion - mostly even, a stomp, etc. Then you plan maybe a couple of moves ("at some point, I'm gonna suplex you/I'm going to end it with X finisher"). You might get together and practice a couple of moves, especially if they're unique/dangerous, so you know how to move so it works, looks good and is safe. Everything else is fluid, with them often whispering short sequences while clinching. The outcome is scripted (usually, but even that can change), the match itself isn't. For example: The Face ('good guy') will often lose at first to the Heel ('bad guy'), then start making a comeback, followed by a finisher. But how exactly that plays out moment to moment? Up to the wrestlers. They just have to be good enough actors to make it look real. And yes, storyline scan change, although it's not going to need to a lot of the time. If you notice that nobody's buying you as a face (the 'good guy'), you can talk to the promoter and suggest a face-heel turn (becoming the 'bad guy'). You want your stories to be consistent, and not fuck others over for your new idea, but especially in the indies stuff can change if you come up with something people think is neat. If you're in a random filler match, but the crowd really reacts to the trash talk between you and your opponent, and you put on a good show, that can become an ongoing rivalry between the two of you that can build over time to a climactic battle. At the end of the day, it's about what fans will enjoy seeing. Don't randomly interrupt a rivalry that's been building for months, but if someone who's not part of a major angle (aka storyline) wants to try something new, space is usually made for it, and depending on reception that can create a new angle. There's a reason people like wrestling, and it's not just the bodyslams. You know the outcome is predetermined, and the drama (usually) isn't real, but there's more going on than what you see if you watch a single fight out of context. It's a soap - watching a single episode, without knowing who each character is or their ongoing storyline isn't going to be a great experience. And it's not real, but neither is Star Wars, doesn't mean it's not fun.
So many answers to "how can a non binary person win a womens wrestling title?!"
Including
"Because tits"
"By three count"
"Because they are over"
Perhaps most importantly
"Because wrestling isn't real you manchild. Men's titles have been won by: A woman, an undead zombie funeral director, a dinosaur, and The Great Khali, but THIS is where your suspension of disbelief dies?"
So...The Great Khali is not a man? I'm also curious about that undead zombie funeral director. Are you referring to Paul Bearer by any chance?
@Ashuraman No, the great Khali was an example of "wit". And no. Good grief.
"Because it's best for business"
Wasn't that long ago Jim was calling people idiots for presuming Jim was trying to be a woman. I guess a trophy makes the difference. Congrats!
@@indicatugh, no. there is no difference. Still enby, and you're still an idiot for thinking that
Smaller teams buying assets to plug holes in their skills or their timetables to use in good faith in their work is presumably the reason asset stores exist in the first place
Check out dark and darker thats what their developer did solid game even with the pre baught assets
That, prototyping, and hobbyists yeah.
@@ASpaceOstrich for prototyping and hobbying you'd just use either free for personal use or super simple self-made assets, little reason to buy an asset from an asset store if you're not gonna use it in your product
Asset stores exist so whoever owns them can take a cut of the money without doing any work. The thing you said is just an anomalous side-effect.
Yeah cause a lot of the game designers that really have a vision or have the budget make there own assets to begin with I don’t see a lot of triple A publishers or even smaller indie publishers with a solid vision taking assets
MandaloreGaming did a pretty fantastic episode about Limbo of the Lost. Worth checking out, if anyone's curious.
I agree, but be warned, it WILL cost you some of your sanity.
@@koenvandamme6901 🎵What more can a poor boy do🎵
His videos are amazing, especially the ones about these utterly mind shattering adventure games like Limbo of the Lost or The Mystery of the Druids.
I honestly thought MandaloreGaming had made up the song as a troll. To find out that it's really real is even more chilling. The Mystery of the Druids video was also mind melting.
@@SpoopySquid *waap waap waah oooo*
Considering they immediately jumped on it and started replacing all of the assets, I'm inclined to take the studio's word that they didn't realize they'd bought stolen goods.
It's a really sucky situation. :s
Exactly. Unlike so many others who when caught with their metaphorical pants off just double down on lies and denial... all while still stinging their never even bothering to pull their freaking pants up.
When actual effort is on display, and more importantly when action is made to take accountability for and rectify the infringement, benefit of the doubt should be given.
Yes, but haven't at least part of development team played Elden Ring and thought: "Hang on? I might have seen this before. Did From Software actually use the same asset we have just bought?" Now, many game developers are not game players themselves, so it is possible that they did not play Elden Ring to such extent that this similarity was obvious to them. Maybe they did play one of the earlier games, but not Elden Ring perhaps?
@@LarixusSnydes I suspect that when you're working for a really long time on a game, you kind of get tunnel vision and wind up assuming that because everything you're working with is supposed to be above board, you must just be imagining things, and you just crack on because letting yourself dwell on it too much would drive you nuts and force you to second-guess more and more things to the point that you wouldn't be able yo get anything done. Granted, I come from music, where accidentally repeating certain established ideas is sort of par for the course even if imitating an especially notable musical gesture without transforming it is obviously bad form, and I have myself made the novice songwriter mistake of unwittingly reproducing elements of a song I like in my own work without registering it until pretty deep into the process, so I get how you can wind up oblivious to what should be really obvious.
@@LarixusSnydes I have played way too many hundred hours of each From game and frankly I wouldn't notice. I don't even notice when From reuses From animations; I don't know how people spot those games using recycled animations instead of just looking kind of similar. Unless the devs are breaking the From animations down frame-by-frame for some reason, as the wiki-editing chunk of the playerbase is, what would ever tip them off to the difference between 'similar' and 'same'?
@@LarixusSnydes 99% of people wouldn't notice two completely unrelated games using the same animations. When people see a sword swing, they just see a sword swing. They don't dig through all the memories of every game they've played and try to connect dots.
You've had your ups, you've had your down's. You've had your smiles, you've had your frowns. But I still say you'll be crowned, the Queen of Limbo!
They had to go to the Inn of Sins
But they managed to keep their leggy limbs
And now I surely want to crown thems
To be the Queen of Limbo
It matters not if you were here first, last, or somewhere in the middle. You are here, and that's good enough.
I've got the participation trophy 🏆
❤
I'm here waiting for the return of boglins
You know it'll be fire when Limbo of the Lost is the opener
You know...every thumbnail tells a story.
I'm all the more intrigued by the demake named, "Macarena of the Missing".
duh kiiiiiing a limbooooo
@@GreekDudeYiannis Konga of the absent
This was indeed an episode 😂
Jason Steele, aka Filmcow, happened to put out a short video not too long ago about stolen sound effects in audio asset packs. He warned using such sounds could still get you in trouble even if you bought them in good faith from the storefront. Here we are with that situation pretty much playing out exactly.
If you've got way more time: hbomberguy's OOF video goes in depth into how complicated ownership of sounds can be, and how a sound bought in good faith can lead to a rabbit hole of legal ownership, creative ownership etc.
It then goes on to talk about said owner being a compulsive liar and a complete weirdo, so if nothing else it's entertaining as well as educational.
Me, who cares almost nothing about Stephanie's wrestling career, but is still glad it makes them happy: Did you get the belt?
*Stephanie got the belt* FUCK YEAH!
(I appreciate the correction, but I did edit the post. Also I've been aware wrestling is a little fake since I was in middle school. That doesn't mean people don't put work in. So yeah, still happy.)
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@@MelMelodyWerner *it
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It's his company. He gave herself the women's belt. It's odd behavior
I don’t really care much about wrestling, but I do like hearing Steph’s updates on it. It’s like hearing about a favorite cousin’s accomplishments. I like having them in the Jimquisition.
This landlord character is instantly my favorite side character in the Sterling lore. Also, I think this is one of the best vids you've made in recent memory!
I've heard of even worse landlords, incredibly-I have friends with some horror stories-but few who seem like bigger pieces of work.
Hard disagree there. Jim Sterling used that story to justify Jim's hatred for and Jim's caste-based bigotry against landlords, painting all landlords as evil, something that Jim has been promoting for years, even going so far as to say that they are not people.
@@connorbredall3112 well I mean a leech is in fact not a person. So their point tracks
@@SeksBott69 Calling a group of people, not people is a historically well-known method of demonization to paint them all with a broad stroke as all being evil and at worst advocating for their deaths. With your leech insult, it sounds like you agree with Jim's hatred and caste-based bigotry and believe that all landlords are evil. If I am right then f*ck you. Not all landlords are evil and f*ck anyone who says otherwise.
@Connor Bredall It's because landlords are all scum. People shouldn't be allowed to own 10+ properties and get insanely rich while their tenants live paycheck to paycheck because the landlord decided to up the rent because they feel like getting extra money.
The wildest thing about Limbo of the Lost's sordid history is that it started development on the Amiga, with a demo featuring an early version of one of the scenes that made it into the game nearly two decades later. Not only that but the Amiga demo also featured content that was plagiarized from another Amiga title, leading to a sizeable backlash that meant the project went on an indefinite hiatus before reappearing in the form we know today and immediately getting slapped with goodness knows how many cease and desist letters for copyright infringement. To this day I can't imagine how they thought they could get away with pulling off that kind of blatant infringement in the mid 2000s when they couldn't even pass off assets from a lesser known game on the Amiga as their own work back before everyone and their mum was on the internet.
It's hardly the behind the scenes exposé that Stephanie was keen to do but Mandalore Gaming's video going over the content of that game is quite the ride and it's where I learnt about the demo I mentioned above.
I just can’t stop imagining some chucklefuck being all, “who’s gonna recognize assets from Oblivion? Nobody plays that game, it’ll be fine!”
@@zyriantel9601 you'd think that, after they couldn't pull the wool over the eyes of the readership of Amiga CD 32 Magazine, they'd have avoided pulling the same trick with dozens of the most successful games ever released but there you go.
Incidentally if you haven't heard of the Amiga CD 32 console, which is basically just a slightly upgraded Amiga with a CD drive and no keyboard that was sold as a home game console, that description should give an indication of how small the readership of the magazine would be.
It was infamous for most of the library being Amiga games burnt onto a CD, meaning that games were released for the platform which required you to hit a key on the keyboard before they would progress past the title screen.
A keyboard that you couldn't plug in to the system because it only had ports for joypads.
I can't believe I've listened to the limbo of the lost song twice in the span of 24 hours.
I was on a Manaloregaming binge last night.
I remember after Dragon Age: Inquisition came out someone declared one of the romance cards was traced. They demonstrated this by layering it over the stock photo they found to show how close they lined up.
The romance card in question showed a gauntlet holding a pendant, while the stock photo was of a hand. Certainly, the hand fit within the gauntlet, and I’d go as far as to say it was *definitely* the primary reference for the art. It might even have been used as a base layer to make sure the anatomy was consistent. But the only lines that actually lined up were the pendant’s strings, and between the heavy stylization of DA:I’s art style, the fact the gauntlet was obviously drawn free-hand, and that the hand photo was literally from a library of poses, references, & stock images for artists to use, I was always kinda bothered by how frothing-at-the-mouth pissed people were. Nobody was actually going through the credits to see if the original photo team were mentioned anywhere (to be fair, I never did either; do you *remember* how long those credits were?) and it seemed pretty damn transformed to me. Just sayin’.
To me, that seems like just trying to pick a fight and/or find a problem. Artists use reference materials on a regular basis, especially those just starting out. I would personally say the heavy stylization of the rest of the image is enough to set it apart and make it transformative enough to be its own piece. I mean... you can't exactly copyright a hand, or a pose with said hand. Not only that, hands are annoying to draw! (I'm a fledgling artist myself so I speak from experience here)
I do recognize that profiting off of the work changes things dramatically both morally and in the eyes of the law, but like I said, I think it's transformative enough on both counts.
... that birthday party scene was a hell of an experience. Can't recommend it in a combination with muscle relaxants. I love it lol
Just popping a few carisoprodol with the lads and watching batshit cutscenes, what could be better than this?
Limbo of the lost looks like a real mind trip of a head f*ck! Hopefully we'll get the full details of that someday.
MandaloreGaming can tell you more, if you're interesting.
It gives me Tales from the Crypt kind of vibes.
It's like watching a garbage fire than never stops burning but never dies.
@@TalesOfWar IIRC the game is meant to be set on an island in the Bermuda Triangle, presumably in that limbo between the realms of the living and the dead. Couple that with Destiny and Fate remarking that Briggs is "a lone [mortal] warrior", and that "the dead do not welcome the presence of the living", and it's easy to get those crypty vibes.
At least, that's what little I've learned. Despite it brain-poisoning me, I've never taken the plunge myself, since I'm not much of a point-and-click adventurer. I never managed to finish the Discworld adventure games, but to be fair I was probably like 6 or 7 at the time.
Play it with a friend, it's worth it! I've got both disks if you can't find a copy too
"The enbies can have whatever they want" is exactly the message that this enby needed today
I want to be Rotom.
finally i can take my vengeance on my enemies.
To you and others reading this, love you my beautiful siblings ❤️
It needs to be a shirt. Also a tank top and a blouse and also on yoga pants and also bedazzled on jeans.
Same sibling! ❤
* JSS shows scenes from a 2007 asset flip *
Me: "What can be worse than this?"
* JSS tells of their Luftwaff strawhat wetsuit landlord *
Me: "...oh, that."
Back when I was at Ringling, plagiarism was a one way ticket to immediate expulsion in the illustration department.
My senior year one of the guys in my class was caught plagiarizing his THESIS but his mommy was a world famous interior designer or some shit (he was an asshole and literally lived in a million dollar condo facing the ocean. A million dollars in '03-'07.) so the school didn't want to chance a lawsuit by expelling him. The whole thing was a toxic drama in the senior class.
The prof figured out a way to keep him from graduating by giving him an incomplete for not having enough unique pieces in his thesis, just different color schemes of the same drawing. It was genius.
Barely related: just last week I had a D&D session and, for the first time in ages, we went up against skeletons. It was then I realized that, because of JSS, we would never again fight skeletons without someone chanting that Skeleton Warriors jingle every other turn. Thank you, Steph, for this epic boon.
I truely can relate to this subject. I have had projects with big asks and a very tight deadline (as in due for the same day the request was submitted) which had me going on "free for commercial use" and with "no attribution required" asset web sites. We usually ask legal but they're often too busy to respond on time for the very short due date. We try to do our personal due diligence but there's never a 100% guarantee that a free asset site hasn't taken their material from a copyrighted illustrated dictionary for example.
Glad to see more stuff from you as always! Is there a chance you could cover the situation with Disco Elysium's developers getting screwed over?
What sick fiend would screw those lovely people? D=
Oh yeah... shitty people, I suppose.
WHAAAAT! Excuse me while I go to google…
DAFUQ?! I'm off too 💨
Edit: JFC 🤦♂️ this one is going to take a while to untangle but the new owner looks as reputable as Logan Paul's nft developers
I don't know if you've told but your Commander Sterling theme song has a bit of a "Power Ranger" vibe to it and I freaking LOVE it!
IDK when this started ( i usually listen to episodes) but I really appreciate the use of open dyslexic as the font for text. Big thanks to whoever made that choice
I think this is a new change, but I'm not sure. I'll go check.
Okay, I'm back. Looks like they have been using a different font for the last couple of episodes with the letters squished together. This looks like the first one with open dyslexic. I am happy to be corrected.
Oh my god, PLEASE put "The Enbies Can Have Whatever They Want" on a shirt!
Is there a way we can like, positively harass Steph into making these? Because I am still *desperate* for a "The Fanbase is F*cking Exhausting" shirt.
first we take the wrestling titles.........next all the fast food restaraunts.
I humbly and in gratitude welcome the Discourse Duck into the Jimquisition Canon. Much like the Cornflake Homunculus it will live rent-free in my head forevermore. Thank God for you Steph.
Honestly I want more landlord stories now, what the actual hell?
More Storytime with Stephanie Sterling in general, honestly
Pretty sure if you put DidYouKnowGaming on the case they could find out what the story is with Limbo of the Lost. They might even let you do the voiceover for what they find.
I thought Mandalore Gaming did a pretty good video on it. He covers what history he could find.
@@nodansland303 Well, perhaps JSS and I can go check it out then.
Wow. That musical number was unexpected. And insane.
I like this new Discourse Duck character. I hope they come back in future episodes.
I don't watch every Jimquisition but when I saw Limbo of the Lost in the thumbnail I instinctively clicked
And I do hope one day you will actually make that Limbo of the Lost documentary, incomplete or not
13:17 Not gonna lie but that song has won me over. I need to play it.
Originality by accident/ineptitude it is still originality... (sort of)
This is the place I come to replenish my humanity.
Woot, Sterling been watching you for years and it is so good to see how well you are doing!
I actually had to pause the video because I was laughing too much at at the discourse duck's belligerent beak line. Steph, you are a gem
and AGAIN with the venga bus
I'm not a fan of wrestling. I just never could get into it. But hearing about your wrestling career and seeing the short videos makes me happy. I might even go to one of your shows if I was in England
That sucks for those devs because the amount of people who do follow ups to stories they see are few and far between. So, for a lot of people, they'll have only seen the initial story about the plagiarism and never what happened next. Shitty situation.
Came for the current controversy but was genuinely thrilled to see Limbo of the Lost examined once more.
The MandaloreGaming channel has a video on "Limbo of the Lost" from several years ago. He called it a rare example of a "so bad, it's good" video game! I just found out that the MitchManix channel also made its own video on "Limbo of the Lost." Anyone who wants to hear more about the game should check those videos out!
Damn. I've been worried for a bit about how many game assets being distributed were outright stolen, but this is a wild case. I can't say I anticipated that the ones popping up in large official storefronts were gonna be stolen from a GOTY.
The most I'd noticed was a few years ago when a bunch of terrible cookie-cutter indie horrors were all inexplicably using a music box rendition of the _Sailor Moon_ theme song, apparently without realizing what it was. Never did figure out who was distributing that as some kind of free spooky stock music rotfl.
That King of Limbo song is going to be stuck in my head forever. 😂
As it very well should. It’s a certified bop lmfao.
I feel for Laura doing the subtitles for this one. What an impossible situation to be in.
Probably should remind people more often what asset flips are as there are still so many who throw it around with really knowing what the term actually means.
I was in a discussion about Dune recently. About how House Ordos is a odd duck with being a case of a game adaptation taking liberties with non-canonicity for fun, while these days that wouldn't happen because of internet (nerd) culture getting upset over authenticity... Then some rando butted in claiming it is because of "Catering to woke audiences!!". seriously?!?
You know that word has lost all meaning when even a bunch of geeks getting too invested in authenticity are also called "Woke"...
I feel the need to salute when I see the notification of a new video by the commander
me too
That Limbo of the Lost song reminds me of something adult swim would write.
I was never into wrestling but I like hearing the wrestling bits cause you seem really happy about your wrestling career and it's nice to see
"The Enbies can have whatever they want" should be a shirt
I remember downloading Limbo of the Lost back when it came out as I was both fascinated by the story behind the game and that fantastic ending song.
I soon realised the story surround the game was much, much more interesting than the game itself. Kinda like that Threatin band.
Kay, so I just looked up that band you mentioned, and holy shit.
9:35 I've not thought about The Vengaboys for years. That's a trip down memory lane.
I knew I recognized that sound. There’s a clip out there of Jim singing Boom Boom from the Podtoid days.
I know, I just KNOW, I'm going to catch myself humming, 'the king of limbo' and chuckling to myself like a crazy person tomorrow
Banger of an episode Steph
This whole affair smacks of the Roblox Oof sound effect, which was ripped from Messiah for PC, slapped clandestinely onto an assets CD and sold to the creators of Roblox, who were none the wise. Except this time a small company's on the receiving end, and not a disgustingly evil multi-billion dollar exploiter of child labor.
Oh, and Tommy Tallarico isn't involved... this time.
4:38 "Things looked *bleak* but the accused had *faith* they could argue their case, before being *forsaken* "
LMAO!
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Ending with the characters throwing a party for the protag and going nuts?
The White Chamber did that in 05
Big kudos on your win!
You're an inspiration to us all.
Thanks for using a dyslexia font for the text bits. While the font is ugly as sin it does help a bunch with readability ^ ^.
This was an absolute banger of an episode and that's a high bar!
You know what Limbo of the Lost really reminds me of? Tabletop RPG games played with a friend group. Completely out there story-bits. Horrific monstrosities being voiced by a guy trying his best ok? Surprise musical number. Literally everything being done with a twinkle in the eye and a shit-eating smirk.
Congrats on your PCW women's champiohship victory, Steph!
they deserved it :D
Great video. That Limbo game is genuinely unnerving to see and know it exists. Keep up the good work.
Ah the skeleton warriors, how I've missed you. Whenever a xenomorph warrior appears in aliens fire team elite that theme song runs through my head and I have James Stephanie Sterling to thank for it. Today I give you double the thanks Steph!
You really say what needs to be said. I wish every mainstream news would report on the things you do. Enbies CAN in fact have whatever we want and it NEEDS to be recognized.
There are now more than a handful of people that know the glory of the Limbo of the Lost Epic Ending.
ive long loved (?) limbo of the lost. it was the game that made me realise i have an extremely keen ear for sound effects and the only good part of my memory is being able to recall where i heard that sound effect
Steph, you can't do that this to me. You can't give me the nazi-memorabilia room mate, the sex pest landlord, then trasisition to Limbo fo the Lost, and wrap it all up with *that fucking song!* This is a health hazard 🤣 I'm gonna die laughing in horror
10:30 He's here to eat cat food and file spurious lawsuits...and he's all out of cat food.
And Limbo of the Lost is so weird and long ago that I forgot it utterly.
I had to stop this video midway and start over because I was laughing so hard at the singing goblin that I almost had an asthma attack. Thank you Steph and team; y’all are amazing!
"I'll show you an epic skelet-"
*plays Skeleton Warriors the way a samurai would draw their katana*
I love the use of epic skeletons in this one, especially the dancing ones
PLEASE cover the absolute insanity that is Limbo of the Lost in full. Mandalore definitely did it justice, but I would still watch you reviewing it as well.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind you covering any older video games in long format.
Limbo of the Lost main character is most probably David 3 from DAZ3D. A lot of models seems to be very recognizable for Gen 2-Gen 3 era.
oh god Limbo of the Lost looks like a fever dream made real
I've been really enjoying seeing more of your drawings pop up in your vids lately, Steph!
Shout out to The Dark Id, must me my favorite screenshot Ley's Play-er. May he find some solace, these years later.
Sorry Steph, I had to rewind the video a bit because I was in shock from your story about your landlord and had to make sure I wasn’t having an acid flashback while watching your video.
Also you talking about assets makes me feel oddly nostalgic, like watching an old show you grew up with.
Also congrats on the title!!!
@@Eisenbison That literally has nothing to do with what I was talking about. Did you actually watch the video to the point where they told their story, or did you just see “landlord” and jump at an income statement?
i had to rewind this vid like 5 times in parts because id blink and suddenly we're talking about the craziest stuff ive ever heard
I love Limbo of the Lost, is such a bad mish-mash of bad ideas and worse acting. I love it
well here we are, after all these years, who would have thought it could ever pass again that I would have that fucking king of limbo song stuck in my head again
I’m so sorry
Love having you as enby representation. Btw, why isn't Jonathan a sleeper agent?
What if Jonathan actually is a sleeper agent but has not been given the code to wake yet.
@Edy Glockenspiel the code is just Steph and Conrad screaming "WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP" over and over into his ears for 16 hours.
He's probably fully nude.
Really, dude. XD
@Ramon Andrajo do you really have nothing better to do than comment "dude" at trans people?
@@smrtfasizmu7242 In general, yes. ;)
Congrats on the wrestling win! And also the great video! I hope one day you'll get to make that docco you want about that insane game whose name I've already forgotten but whose end song is now burned into my brain for all eternity!
It's a great day when we are blessed with the Skeleton Warriors after so long.
I've never heard of Limbo of the Lost but now I'm absolutely fascinated.
Whelp, Sterling just got herself a new title in my book: The Queen of Limbo!
‘Each Marketplace seller represents and warrants’ sounds like legalese for ‘they pinkie promise, honest’.
Its nice to see despite the collapse of subscribers there is a supportive community posting positive messages
I'd say this is one of the best vids ypu've done in a while. Pretty interesting and informative. :)
congrats on the W
Steph, thank you so much for this. With all the legislation about in the states and being in the south, things are very scary, and I went back and watched a ton of your old Greenlight trailer videos just for some comfy vibes, and it's so lovely to see some of the classics on here. Forever a fan, friend, and a thanker of fucking GOD for you, Steph Sterling.
If Epic sold it but didn't own it, uh pretty sure that's theft. Taking money for something you don't own and then saying it's the dev's responsibility to make sure the asset isn't' owned by someone else..... And Epic wonders why people still won't buy games from them.
Great video! Super happy you got the title! Love seeing you get a chance to do whatever you want.
Hell yeah you go steph!❤
12:03 You did your best, Laura. I couldn't even get THAT much out of the audio 😂
That _Limbo of the Lost_ song was one of the most experiences I've ever.
One of the endings of all time
I've always appreciated that the intro and outro audio has always sounded like in-camera mic in a small room
You know you should probably go for the men's championship too. Just to really drive home that "the NB's can do what they want " message
I was thinking the same! That would be freaking rad
Congratulations to our lovely Commander Sterling! I really still hope to see you wrestle live someday, if I can ever drag my carcass over to the UK. In the meanwhile, I'll accept the scraps of any match that happens to be put online! The belt looks good on ya! That aside, watching companies toss the blame across to each other like a live grenade makes me sick. Money is supposed to make the world go 'round, but all I see is it dragging us all down into a pit of despair and rhetoric. I'm glad you're here to drag those with ears to listen and minds that are open and curious into the light.
I normally don't care about the wrestling stuff, but I'm really proud of you. Congrats on the title, you deserve it.
You do realize its all scripted, right? He has won nothing except the long straw in the `who gets to win this year` bag.
@@meetoo594 it's a bit more complicated than that. Wrestling is like a TV soap, it's got storyline and fan favourites. Make the wrong move, give someone a title without them 'earning it' in-story, and you risk alienating fans. And that also means that storyline are somewhat flexible - if fans don't like something, or really react to something, you need to pivot the story around that.
So did winning the championship match matter? Not really. But being popular enough that awarding you the title is feasible is a pretty big achievement.
@@BleachFan2588 Also: being talented enough at being a wrestler.
Not necessarily wrestling. It's the ability to a. have enough actual fighting skill to look real and b. a wide suite of acting and performance skills.
@@BleachFan2588 thanks for the explanation. So I guess the storyline can change after every bout depending on audience reaction rather than predetermined from the start even though every move is pre scripted in advance?
@@meetoo594 Every move isn't prescripted - that's just not feasible. Nobody has time to learn a fight choreography for a single match, especially with a place like WWE having them do so many matches in a short time. You know who's supposed to win, and in what fashion - mostly even, a stomp, etc. Then you plan maybe a couple of moves ("at some point, I'm gonna suplex you/I'm going to end it with X finisher"). You might get together and practice a couple of moves, especially if they're unique/dangerous, so you know how to move so it works, looks good and is safe. Everything else is fluid, with them often whispering short sequences while clinching. The outcome is scripted (usually, but even that can change), the match itself isn't. For example: The Face ('good guy') will often lose at first to the Heel ('bad guy'), then start making a comeback, followed by a finisher. But how exactly that plays out moment to moment? Up to the wrestlers. They just have to be good enough actors to make it look real.
And yes, storyline scan change, although it's not going to need to a lot of the time. If you notice that nobody's buying you as a face (the 'good guy'), you can talk to the promoter and suggest a face-heel turn (becoming the 'bad guy'). You want your stories to be consistent, and not fuck others over for your new idea, but especially in the indies stuff can change if you come up with something people think is neat.
If you're in a random filler match, but the crowd really reacts to the trash talk between you and your opponent, and you put on a good show, that can become an ongoing rivalry between the two of you that can build over time to a climactic battle.
At the end of the day, it's about what fans will enjoy seeing. Don't randomly interrupt a rivalry that's been building for months, but if someone who's not part of a major angle (aka storyline) wants to try something new, space is usually made for it, and depending on reception that can create a new angle.
There's a reason people like wrestling, and it's not just the bodyslams. You know the outcome is predetermined, and the drama (usually) isn't real, but there's more going on than what you see if you watch a single fight out of context. It's a soap - watching a single episode, without knowing who each character is or their ongoing storyline isn't going to be a great experience. And it's not real, but neither is Star Wars, doesn't mean it's not fun.
The commander is the new PCW women's champion? REJOICE!
Epic pissing away developer confidence in their storefront. The next "Steam" everyone!
I was in the crowd for Saturday night and it was fucking amazing to see you win that belt. A memory I will never forget.
*CACKLING IN ENBY*
Bless you and your energy, Cpt. Sterling!