So many answers to "how can a non binary person win a womens wrestling title?!" Including "Because tits" "By three count" "Because they are over" Perhaps most importantly "Because wrestling isn't real you manchild. Men's titles have been won by: A woman, an undead zombie funeral director, a dinosaur, and The Great Khali, but THIS is where your suspension of disbelief dies?"
Smaller teams buying assets to plug holes in their skills or their timetables to use in good faith in their work is presumably the reason asset stores exist in the first place
@@ASpaceOstrich for prototyping and hobbying you'd just use either free for personal use or super simple self-made assets, little reason to buy an asset from an asset store if you're not gonna use it in your product
Yeah cause a lot of the game designers that really have a vision or have the budget make there own assets to begin with I don’t see a lot of triple A publishers or even smaller indie publishers with a solid vision taking assets
I honestly thought MandaloreGaming had made up the song as a troll. To find out that it's really real is even more chilling. The Mystery of the Druids video was also mind melting.
Considering they immediately jumped on it and started replacing all of the assets, I'm inclined to take the studio's word that they didn't realize they'd bought stolen goods. It's a really sucky situation. :s
Exactly. Unlike so many others who when caught with their metaphorical pants off just double down on lies and denial... all while still stinging their never even bothering to pull their freaking pants up. When actual effort is on display, and more importantly when action is made to take accountability for and rectify the infringement, benefit of the doubt should be given.
Yes, but haven't at least part of development team played Elden Ring and thought: "Hang on? I might have seen this before. Did From Software actually use the same asset we have just bought?" Now, many game developers are not game players themselves, so it is possible that they did not play Elden Ring to such extent that this similarity was obvious to them. Maybe they did play one of the earlier games, but not Elden Ring perhaps?
@@LarixusSnydes I suspect that when you're working for a really long time on a game, you kind of get tunnel vision and wind up assuming that because everything you're working with is supposed to be above board, you must just be imagining things, and you just crack on because letting yourself dwell on it too much would drive you nuts and force you to second-guess more and more things to the point that you wouldn't be able yo get anything done. Granted, I come from music, where accidentally repeating certain established ideas is sort of par for the course even if imitating an especially notable musical gesture without transforming it is obviously bad form, and I have myself made the novice songwriter mistake of unwittingly reproducing elements of a song I like in my own work without registering it until pretty deep into the process, so I get how you can wind up oblivious to what should be really obvious.
@@LarixusSnydes I have played way too many hundred hours of each From game and frankly I wouldn't notice. I don't even notice when From reuses From animations; I don't know how people spot those games using recycled animations instead of just looking kind of similar. Unless the devs are breaking the From animations down frame-by-frame for some reason, as the wiki-editing chunk of the playerbase is, what would ever tip them off to the difference between 'similar' and 'same'?
@@LarixusSnydes 99% of people wouldn't notice two completely unrelated games using the same animations. When people see a sword swing, they just see a sword swing. They don't dig through all the memories of every game they've played and try to connect dots.
Jason Steele, aka Filmcow, happened to put out a short video not too long ago about stolen sound effects in audio asset packs. He warned using such sounds could still get you in trouble even if you bought them in good faith from the storefront. Here we are with that situation pretty much playing out exactly.
If you've got way more time: hbomberguy's OOF video goes in depth into how complicated ownership of sounds can be, and how a sound bought in good faith can lead to a rabbit hole of legal ownership, creative ownership etc. It then goes on to talk about said owner being a compulsive liar and a complete weirdo, so if nothing else it's entertaining as well as educational.
This landlord character is instantly my favorite side character in the Sterling lore. Also, I think this is one of the best vids you've made in recent memory!
Hard disagree there. Jim Sterling used that story to justify Jim's hatred for and Jim's caste-based bigotry against landlords, painting all landlords as evil, something that Jim has been promoting for years, even going so far as to say that they are not people.
@@SeksBott69 Calling a group of people, not people is a historically well-known method of demonization to paint them all with a broad stroke as all being evil and at worst advocating for their deaths. With your leech insult, it sounds like you agree with Jim's hatred and caste-based bigotry and believe that all landlords are evil. If I am right then f*ck you. Not all landlords are evil and f*ck anyone who says otherwise.
@Connor Bredall It's because landlords are all scum. People shouldn't be allowed to own 10+ properties and get insanely rich while their tenants live paycheck to paycheck because the landlord decided to up the rent because they feel like getting extra money.
The wildest thing about Limbo of the Lost's sordid history is that it started development on the Amiga, with a demo featuring an early version of one of the scenes that made it into the game nearly two decades later. Not only that but the Amiga demo also featured content that was plagiarized from another Amiga title, leading to a sizeable backlash that meant the project went on an indefinite hiatus before reappearing in the form we know today and immediately getting slapped with goodness knows how many cease and desist letters for copyright infringement. To this day I can't imagine how they thought they could get away with pulling off that kind of blatant infringement in the mid 2000s when they couldn't even pass off assets from a lesser known game on the Amiga as their own work back before everyone and their mum was on the internet. It's hardly the behind the scenes exposé that Stephanie was keen to do but Mandalore Gaming's video going over the content of that game is quite the ride and it's where I learnt about the demo I mentioned above.
@@zyriantel9601 you'd think that, after they couldn't pull the wool over the eyes of the readership of Amiga CD 32 Magazine, they'd have avoided pulling the same trick with dozens of the most successful games ever released but there you go. Incidentally if you haven't heard of the Amiga CD 32 console, which is basically just a slightly upgraded Amiga with a CD drive and no keyboard that was sold as a home game console, that description should give an indication of how small the readership of the magazine would be. It was infamous for most of the library being Amiga games burnt onto a CD, meaning that games were released for the platform which required you to hit a key on the keyboard before they would progress past the title screen. A keyboard that you couldn't plug in to the system because it only had ports for joypads.
Me, who cares almost nothing about Stephanie's wrestling career, but is still glad it makes them happy: Did you get the belt? *Stephanie got the belt* FUCK YEAH! (I appreciate the correction, but I did edit the post. Also I've been aware wrestling is a little fake since I was in middle school. That doesn't mean people don't put work in. So yeah, still happy.)
* JSS shows scenes from a 2007 asset flip * Me: "What can be worse than this?" * JSS tells of their Luftwaff strawhat wetsuit landlord * Me: "...oh, that."
I don’t really care much about wrestling, but I do like hearing Steph’s updates on it. It’s like hearing about a favorite cousin’s accomplishments. I like having them in the Jimquisition.
@@TalesOfWar IIRC the game is meant to be set on an island in the Bermuda Triangle, presumably in that limbo between the realms of the living and the dead. Couple that with Destiny and Fate remarking that Briggs is "a lone [mortal] warrior", and that "the dead do not welcome the presence of the living", and it's easy to get those crypty vibes. At least, that's what little I've learned. Despite it brain-poisoning me, I've never taken the plunge myself, since I'm not much of a point-and-click adventurer. I never managed to finish the Discworld adventure games, but to be fair I was probably like 6 or 7 at the time.
Barely related: just last week I had a D&D session and, for the first time in ages, we went up against skeletons. It was then I realized that, because of JSS, we would never again fight skeletons without someone chanting that Skeleton Warriors jingle every other turn. Thank you, Steph, for this epic boon.
Back when I was at Ringling, plagiarism was a one way ticket to immediate expulsion in the illustration department. My senior year one of the guys in my class was caught plagiarizing his THESIS but his mommy was a world famous interior designer or some shit (he was an asshole and literally lived in a million dollar condo facing the ocean. A million dollars in '03-'07.) so the school didn't want to chance a lawsuit by expelling him. The whole thing was a toxic drama in the senior class. The prof figured out a way to keep him from graduating by giving him an incomplete for not having enough unique pieces in his thesis, just different color schemes of the same drawing. It was genius.
I remember after Dragon Age: Inquisition came out someone declared one of the romance cards was traced. They demonstrated this by layering it over the stock photo they found to show how close they lined up. The romance card in question showed a gauntlet holding a pendant, while the stock photo was of a hand. Certainly, the hand fit within the gauntlet, and I’d go as far as to say it was *definitely* the primary reference for the art. It might even have been used as a base layer to make sure the anatomy was consistent. But the only lines that actually lined up were the pendant’s strings, and between the heavy stylization of DA:I’s art style, the fact the gauntlet was obviously drawn free-hand, and that the hand photo was literally from a library of poses, references, & stock images for artists to use, I was always kinda bothered by how frothing-at-the-mouth pissed people were. Nobody was actually going through the credits to see if the original photo team were mentioned anywhere (to be fair, I never did either; do you *remember* how long those credits were?) and it seemed pretty damn transformed to me. Just sayin’.
To me, that seems like just trying to pick a fight and/or find a problem. Artists use reference materials on a regular basis, especially those just starting out. I would personally say the heavy stylization of the rest of the image is enough to set it apart and make it transformative enough to be its own piece. I mean... you can't exactly copyright a hand, or a pose with said hand. Not only that, hands are annoying to draw! (I'm a fledgling artist myself so I speak from experience here) I do recognize that profiting off of the work changes things dramatically both morally and in the eyes of the law, but like I said, I think it's transformative enough on both counts.
I truely can relate to this subject. I have had projects with big asks and a very tight deadline (as in due for the same day the request was submitted) which had me going on "free for commercial use" and with "no attribution required" asset web sites. We usually ask legal but they're often too busy to respond on time for the very short due date. We try to do our personal due diligence but there's never a 100% guarantee that a free asset site hasn't taken their material from a copyrighted illustrated dictionary for example.
IDK when this started ( i usually listen to episodes) but I really appreciate the use of open dyslexic as the font for text. Big thanks to whoever made that choice
Okay, I'm back. Looks like they have been using a different font for the last couple of episodes with the letters squished together. This looks like the first one with open dyslexic. I am happy to be corrected.
Steph, you can't do that this to me. You can't give me the nazi-memorabilia room mate, the sex pest landlord, then trasisition to Limbo fo the Lost, and wrap it all up with *that fucking song!* This is a health hazard 🤣 I'm gonna die laughing in horror
I humbly and in gratitude welcome the Discourse Duck into the Jimquisition Canon. Much like the Cornflake Homunculus it will live rent-free in my head forevermore. Thank God for you Steph.
This whole affair smacks of the Roblox Oof sound effect, which was ripped from Messiah for PC, slapped clandestinely onto an assets CD and sold to the creators of Roblox, who were none the wise. Except this time a small company's on the receiving end, and not a disgustingly evil multi-billion dollar exploiter of child labor. Oh, and Tommy Tallarico isn't involved... this time.
10:30 He's here to eat cat food and file spurious lawsuits...and he's all out of cat food. And Limbo of the Lost is so weird and long ago that I forgot it utterly.
I'm not a fan of wrestling. I just never could get into it. But hearing about your wrestling career and seeing the short videos makes me happy. I might even go to one of your shows if I was in England
the first joke that came to my mind when you won at the woman's wrestling was "oh so that's why they became trans, so that they can beat women at wrestling"
That sucks for those devs because the amount of people who do follow ups to stories they see are few and far between. So, for a lot of people, they'll have only seen the initial story about the plagiarism and never what happened next. Shitty situation.
Pretty sure if you put DidYouKnowGaming on the case they could find out what the story is with Limbo of the Lost. They might even let you do the voiceover for what they find.
I don't watch every Jimquisition but when I saw Limbo of the Lost in the thumbnail I instinctively clicked And I do hope one day you will actually make that Limbo of the Lost documentary, incomplete or not
I was in a discussion about Dune recently. About how House Ordos is a odd duck with being a case of a game adaptation taking liberties with non-canonicity for fun, while these days that wouldn't happen because of internet (nerd) culture getting upset over authenticity... Then some rando butted in claiming it is because of "Catering to woke audiences!!". seriously?!? You know that word has lost all meaning when even a bunch of geeks getting too invested in authenticity are also called "Woke"...
Damn. I've been worried for a bit about how many game assets being distributed were outright stolen, but this is a wild case. I can't say I anticipated that the ones popping up in large official storefronts were gonna be stolen from a GOTY. The most I'd noticed was a few years ago when a bunch of terrible cookie-cutter indie horrors were all inexplicably using a music box rendition of the _Sailor Moon_ theme song, apparently without realizing what it was. Never did figure out who was distributing that as some kind of free spooky stock music rotfl.
The MandaloreGaming channel has a video on "Limbo of the Lost" from several years ago. He called it a rare example of a "so bad, it's good" video game! I just found out that the MitchManix channel also made its own video on "Limbo of the Lost." Anyone who wants to hear more about the game should check those videos out!
You know what Limbo of the Lost really reminds me of? Tabletop RPG games played with a friend group. Completely out there story-bits. Horrific monstrosities being voiced by a guy trying his best ok? Surprise musical number. Literally everything being done with a twinkle in the eye and a shit-eating smirk.
When you're a large company: "You're selling stolen goods!" "Not our problem." "Oh." When you're a consumer: "YOU PIRATED THIS GAME/MUSIC THAT CAN NO LONGER BE BOUGHT! [LEGAL THREATS!] [BANHAMMER!]"
If Epic sold it but didn't own it, uh pretty sure that's theft. Taking money for something you don't own and then saying it's the dev's responsibility to make sure the asset isn't' owned by someone else..... And Epic wonders why people still won't buy games from them.
Ah the skeleton warriors, how I've missed you. Whenever a xenomorph warrior appears in aliens fire team elite that theme song runs through my head and I have James Stephanie Sterling to thank for it. Today I give you double the thanks Steph!
ive long loved (?) limbo of the lost. it was the game that made me realise i have an extremely keen ear for sound effects and the only good part of my memory is being able to recall where i heard that sound effect
I know, I just KNOW, I'm going to catch myself humming, 'the king of limbo' and chuckling to myself like a crazy person tomorrow Banger of an episode Steph
That Limbo of the Lost song reminds me of something adult swim would write. I was never into wrestling but I like hearing the wrestling bits cause you seem really happy about your wrestling career and it's nice to see
well here we are, after all these years, who would have thought it could ever pass again that I would have that fucking king of limbo song stuck in my head again
Probably should remind people more often what asset flips are as there are still so many who throw it around with really knowing what the term actually means.
I had to stop this video midway and start over because I was laughing so hard at the singing goblin that I almost had an asthma attack. Thank you Steph and team; y’all are amazing!
Y'know, I don't often go against Stephanie in anyway, but I remember the phone call with Robert Romine (or was it the other one?) where the Romine argued that he bought the official game artwork for the Slaughtering Grounds off Shutterstock, and it turned out to be stolen and Steph replied (paraphrased)"You should have done the research before you did business with them." Is that not the same case here? Where the developers should have done a bit more research before they bought the animations in the first place and are therefore at fault? Because if not... then maybe the Romine brothers might have been right about something and weren't necessarily at fault for trusting Shutterstock in blind faith. Broken clocks and all that, I suppose. This isn't to exonerate those clowns btw - this just seems like contradictory opinions and I was wondering if Steph had changed her mind, or if this situation is different somehow (y'know, apart from these devs seeming like nicer people who weren't currently attacking her entire livelihood and person)
I remember downloading Limbo of the Lost back when it came out as I was both fascinated by the story behind the game and that fantastic ending song. I soon realised the story surround the game was much, much more interesting than the game itself. Kinda like that Threatin band.
Congrats on the wrestling win! And also the great video! I hope one day you'll get to make that docco you want about that insane game whose name I've already forgotten but whose end song is now burned into my brain for all eternity!
@Edy Glockenspiel the code is just Steph and Conrad screaming "WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP" over and over into his ears for 16 hours. He's probably fully nude.
As much as people may dislike it Epic is in the clear, platforms have no requirement to do anything with the context uploaded by somebody else. If they did there wouldn't be an Epic assest shopfront, or a very limited one. There would also be basically no social media so to speak if every platform owner was behooved to regulate uploaded content. We all try to have our cake and eat it, we all want our content uploaded and not controlled by corporations but we also want them to control the content we dislike and/or think is illegal. Is it great, no, but probably better than the alternative.
The outrage over the fucking skill icons using AI artwork is especially petty. Like, who specifically did they supposedly "rip off" there? If its just that the training data for the work was based off others and turned into something new, then it's very clearly a transformative work and should be considered fair use
So, Epic basically announced that their "due diligence" is to make the seller sign a document... Isn't that about the same as announcing "Come sell your stolen assets here, we won't check!"? Gratz on the Championship!
People pointing out this indie game having animations stolen from Elden Ring to the extent the developers rework their game. Genshin however steals assets and animations from several other games and everyone's just OK with it.
Sorry Steph, I had to rewind the video a bit because I was in shock from your story about your landlord and had to make sure I wasn’t having an acid flashback while watching your video. Also you talking about assets makes me feel oddly nostalgic, like watching an old show you grew up with. Also congrats on the title!!!
@@Eisenbison That literally has nothing to do with what I was talking about. Did you actually watch the video to the point where they told their story, or did you just see “landlord” and jump at an income statement?
"My heart goes out to any creative falsely accused of plagiarism. It's a cardinal sin of creativity. One of the worst things an artist could be accused of doing, professionally." - DarkSoulSama, 27/03/2023 ಠ_ಠ
So many answers to "how can a non binary person win a womens wrestling title?!"
Including
"Because tits"
"By three count"
"Because they are over"
Perhaps most importantly
"Because wrestling isn't real you manchild. Men's titles have been won by: A woman, an undead zombie funeral director, a dinosaur, and The Great Khali, but THIS is where your suspension of disbelief dies?"
So...The Great Khali is not a man? I'm also curious about that undead zombie funeral director. Are you referring to Paul Bearer by any chance?
@Ashuraman No, the great Khali was an example of "wit". And no. Good grief.
"Because it's best for business"
Wasn't that long ago Jim was calling people idiots for presuming Jim was trying to be a woman. I guess a trophy makes the difference. Congrats!
@@indicatugh, no. there is no difference. Still enby, and you're still an idiot for thinking that
Smaller teams buying assets to plug holes in their skills or their timetables to use in good faith in their work is presumably the reason asset stores exist in the first place
Check out dark and darker thats what their developer did solid game even with the pre baught assets
That, prototyping, and hobbyists yeah.
@@ASpaceOstrich for prototyping and hobbying you'd just use either free for personal use or super simple self-made assets, little reason to buy an asset from an asset store if you're not gonna use it in your product
Asset stores exist so whoever owns them can take a cut of the money without doing any work. The thing you said is just an anomalous side-effect.
Yeah cause a lot of the game designers that really have a vision or have the budget make there own assets to begin with I don’t see a lot of triple A publishers or even smaller indie publishers with a solid vision taking assets
You've had your ups, you've had your down's. You've had your smiles, you've had your frowns. But I still say you'll be crowned, the Queen of Limbo!
They had to go to the Inn of Sins
But they managed to keep their leggy limbs
And now I surely want to crown thems
To be the Queen of Limbo
You know it'll be fire when Limbo of the Lost is the opener
You know...every thumbnail tells a story.
I'm all the more intrigued by the demake named, "Macarena of the Missing".
duh kiiiiiing a limbooooo
@@GreekDudeYiannis Konga of the absent
This was indeed an episode 😂
MandaloreGaming did a pretty fantastic episode about Limbo of the Lost. Worth checking out, if anyone's curious.
I agree, but be warned, it WILL cost you some of your sanity.
@@koenvandamme6901 🎵What more can a poor boy do🎵
His videos are amazing, especially the ones about these utterly mind shattering adventure games like Limbo of the Lost or The Mystery of the Druids.
I honestly thought MandaloreGaming had made up the song as a troll. To find out that it's really real is even more chilling. The Mystery of the Druids video was also mind melting.
@@SpoopySquid *waap waap waah oooo*
Considering they immediately jumped on it and started replacing all of the assets, I'm inclined to take the studio's word that they didn't realize they'd bought stolen goods.
It's a really sucky situation. :s
Exactly. Unlike so many others who when caught with their metaphorical pants off just double down on lies and denial... all while still stinging their never even bothering to pull their freaking pants up.
When actual effort is on display, and more importantly when action is made to take accountability for and rectify the infringement, benefit of the doubt should be given.
Yes, but haven't at least part of development team played Elden Ring and thought: "Hang on? I might have seen this before. Did From Software actually use the same asset we have just bought?" Now, many game developers are not game players themselves, so it is possible that they did not play Elden Ring to such extent that this similarity was obvious to them. Maybe they did play one of the earlier games, but not Elden Ring perhaps?
@@LarixusSnydes I suspect that when you're working for a really long time on a game, you kind of get tunnel vision and wind up assuming that because everything you're working with is supposed to be above board, you must just be imagining things, and you just crack on because letting yourself dwell on it too much would drive you nuts and force you to second-guess more and more things to the point that you wouldn't be able yo get anything done. Granted, I come from music, where accidentally repeating certain established ideas is sort of par for the course even if imitating an especially notable musical gesture without transforming it is obviously bad form, and I have myself made the novice songwriter mistake of unwittingly reproducing elements of a song I like in my own work without registering it until pretty deep into the process, so I get how you can wind up oblivious to what should be really obvious.
@@LarixusSnydes I have played way too many hundred hours of each From game and frankly I wouldn't notice. I don't even notice when From reuses From animations; I don't know how people spot those games using recycled animations instead of just looking kind of similar. Unless the devs are breaking the From animations down frame-by-frame for some reason, as the wiki-editing chunk of the playerbase is, what would ever tip them off to the difference between 'similar' and 'same'?
@@LarixusSnydes 99% of people wouldn't notice two completely unrelated games using the same animations. When people see a sword swing, they just see a sword swing. They don't dig through all the memories of every game they've played and try to connect dots.
It matters not if you were here first, last, or somewhere in the middle. You are here, and that's good enough.
I've got the participation trophy 🏆
❤
I'm here waiting for the return of boglins
Jason Steele, aka Filmcow, happened to put out a short video not too long ago about stolen sound effects in audio asset packs. He warned using such sounds could still get you in trouble even if you bought them in good faith from the storefront. Here we are with that situation pretty much playing out exactly.
If you've got way more time: hbomberguy's OOF video goes in depth into how complicated ownership of sounds can be, and how a sound bought in good faith can lead to a rabbit hole of legal ownership, creative ownership etc.
It then goes on to talk about said owner being a compulsive liar and a complete weirdo, so if nothing else it's entertaining as well as educational.
"The enbies can have whatever they want" is exactly the message that this enby needed today
I want to be Rotom.
finally i can take my vengeance on my enemies.
To you and others reading this, love you my beautiful siblings ❤️
It needs to be a shirt. Also a tank top and a blouse and also on yoga pants and also bedazzled on jeans.
Same sibling! ❤
This landlord character is instantly my favorite side character in the Sterling lore. Also, I think this is one of the best vids you've made in recent memory!
I've heard of even worse landlords, incredibly-I have friends with some horror stories-but few who seem like bigger pieces of work.
Hard disagree there. Jim Sterling used that story to justify Jim's hatred for and Jim's caste-based bigotry against landlords, painting all landlords as evil, something that Jim has been promoting for years, even going so far as to say that they are not people.
@@connorbredall3112 well I mean a leech is in fact not a person. So their point tracks
@@SeksBott69 Calling a group of people, not people is a historically well-known method of demonization to paint them all with a broad stroke as all being evil and at worst advocating for their deaths. With your leech insult, it sounds like you agree with Jim's hatred and caste-based bigotry and believe that all landlords are evil. If I am right then f*ck you. Not all landlords are evil and f*ck anyone who says otherwise.
@Connor Bredall It's because landlords are all scum. People shouldn't be allowed to own 10+ properties and get insanely rich while their tenants live paycheck to paycheck because the landlord decided to up the rent because they feel like getting extra money.
The wildest thing about Limbo of the Lost's sordid history is that it started development on the Amiga, with a demo featuring an early version of one of the scenes that made it into the game nearly two decades later. Not only that but the Amiga demo also featured content that was plagiarized from another Amiga title, leading to a sizeable backlash that meant the project went on an indefinite hiatus before reappearing in the form we know today and immediately getting slapped with goodness knows how many cease and desist letters for copyright infringement. To this day I can't imagine how they thought they could get away with pulling off that kind of blatant infringement in the mid 2000s when they couldn't even pass off assets from a lesser known game on the Amiga as their own work back before everyone and their mum was on the internet.
It's hardly the behind the scenes exposé that Stephanie was keen to do but Mandalore Gaming's video going over the content of that game is quite the ride and it's where I learnt about the demo I mentioned above.
I just can’t stop imagining some chucklefuck being all, “who’s gonna recognize assets from Oblivion? Nobody plays that game, it’ll be fine!”
@@zyriantel9601 you'd think that, after they couldn't pull the wool over the eyes of the readership of Amiga CD 32 Magazine, they'd have avoided pulling the same trick with dozens of the most successful games ever released but there you go.
Incidentally if you haven't heard of the Amiga CD 32 console, which is basically just a slightly upgraded Amiga with a CD drive and no keyboard that was sold as a home game console, that description should give an indication of how small the readership of the magazine would be.
It was infamous for most of the library being Amiga games burnt onto a CD, meaning that games were released for the platform which required you to hit a key on the keyboard before they would progress past the title screen.
A keyboard that you couldn't plug in to the system because it only had ports for joypads.
Me, who cares almost nothing about Stephanie's wrestling career, but is still glad it makes them happy: Did you get the belt?
*Stephanie got the belt* FUCK YEAH!
(I appreciate the correction, but I did edit the post. Also I've been aware wrestling is a little fake since I was in middle school. That doesn't mean people don't put work in. So yeah, still happy.)
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It's his company. He gave herself the women's belt. It's odd behavior
I can't believe I've listened to the limbo of the lost song twice in the span of 24 hours.
I was on a Manaloregaming binge last night.
* JSS shows scenes from a 2007 asset flip *
Me: "What can be worse than this?"
* JSS tells of their Luftwaff strawhat wetsuit landlord *
Me: "...oh, that."
... that birthday party scene was a hell of an experience. Can't recommend it in a combination with muscle relaxants. I love it lol
Just popping a few carisoprodol with the lads and watching batshit cutscenes, what could be better than this?
I don’t really care much about wrestling, but I do like hearing Steph’s updates on it. It’s like hearing about a favorite cousin’s accomplishments. I like having them in the Jimquisition.
Limbo of the lost looks like a real mind trip of a head f*ck! Hopefully we'll get the full details of that someday.
MandaloreGaming can tell you more, if you're interesting.
It gives me Tales from the Crypt kind of vibes.
It's like watching a garbage fire than never stops burning but never dies.
@@TalesOfWar IIRC the game is meant to be set on an island in the Bermuda Triangle, presumably in that limbo between the realms of the living and the dead. Couple that with Destiny and Fate remarking that Briggs is "a lone [mortal] warrior", and that "the dead do not welcome the presence of the living", and it's easy to get those crypty vibes.
At least, that's what little I've learned. Despite it brain-poisoning me, I've never taken the plunge myself, since I'm not much of a point-and-click adventurer. I never managed to finish the Discworld adventure games, but to be fair I was probably like 6 or 7 at the time.
Play it with a friend, it's worth it! I've got both disks if you can't find a copy too
Barely related: just last week I had a D&D session and, for the first time in ages, we went up against skeletons. It was then I realized that, because of JSS, we would never again fight skeletons without someone chanting that Skeleton Warriors jingle every other turn. Thank you, Steph, for this epic boon.
I don't know if you've told but your Commander Sterling theme song has a bit of a "Power Ranger" vibe to it and I freaking LOVE it!
Back when I was at Ringling, plagiarism was a one way ticket to immediate expulsion in the illustration department.
My senior year one of the guys in my class was caught plagiarizing his THESIS but his mommy was a world famous interior designer or some shit (he was an asshole and literally lived in a million dollar condo facing the ocean. A million dollars in '03-'07.) so the school didn't want to chance a lawsuit by expelling him. The whole thing was a toxic drama in the senior class.
The prof figured out a way to keep him from graduating by giving him an incomplete for not having enough unique pieces in his thesis, just different color schemes of the same drawing. It was genius.
I remember after Dragon Age: Inquisition came out someone declared one of the romance cards was traced. They demonstrated this by layering it over the stock photo they found to show how close they lined up.
The romance card in question showed a gauntlet holding a pendant, while the stock photo was of a hand. Certainly, the hand fit within the gauntlet, and I’d go as far as to say it was *definitely* the primary reference for the art. It might even have been used as a base layer to make sure the anatomy was consistent. But the only lines that actually lined up were the pendant’s strings, and between the heavy stylization of DA:I’s art style, the fact the gauntlet was obviously drawn free-hand, and that the hand photo was literally from a library of poses, references, & stock images for artists to use, I was always kinda bothered by how frothing-at-the-mouth pissed people were. Nobody was actually going through the credits to see if the original photo team were mentioned anywhere (to be fair, I never did either; do you *remember* how long those credits were?) and it seemed pretty damn transformed to me. Just sayin’.
To me, that seems like just trying to pick a fight and/or find a problem. Artists use reference materials on a regular basis, especially those just starting out. I would personally say the heavy stylization of the rest of the image is enough to set it apart and make it transformative enough to be its own piece. I mean... you can't exactly copyright a hand, or a pose with said hand. Not only that, hands are annoying to draw! (I'm a fledgling artist myself so I speak from experience here)
I do recognize that profiting off of the work changes things dramatically both morally and in the eyes of the law, but like I said, I think it's transformative enough on both counts.
I truely can relate to this subject. I have had projects with big asks and a very tight deadline (as in due for the same day the request was submitted) which had me going on "free for commercial use" and with "no attribution required" asset web sites. We usually ask legal but they're often too busy to respond on time for the very short due date. We try to do our personal due diligence but there's never a 100% guarantee that a free asset site hasn't taken their material from a copyrighted illustrated dictionary for example.
IDK when this started ( i usually listen to episodes) but I really appreciate the use of open dyslexic as the font for text. Big thanks to whoever made that choice
I think this is a new change, but I'm not sure. I'll go check.
Okay, I'm back. Looks like they have been using a different font for the last couple of episodes with the letters squished together. This looks like the first one with open dyslexic. I am happy to be corrected.
Oh my god, PLEASE put "The Enbies Can Have Whatever They Want" on a shirt!
Is there a way we can like, positively harass Steph into making these? Because I am still *desperate* for a "The Fanbase is F*cking Exhausting" shirt.
first we take the wrestling titles.........next all the fast food restaraunts.
"I'll show you an epic skelet-"
*plays Skeleton Warriors the way a samurai would draw their katana*
Steph, you can't do that this to me. You can't give me the nazi-memorabilia room mate, the sex pest landlord, then trasisition to Limbo fo the Lost, and wrap it all up with *that fucking song!* This is a health hazard 🤣 I'm gonna die laughing in horror
I actually had to pause the video because I was laughing too much at at the discourse duck's belligerent beak line. Steph, you are a gem
and AGAIN with the venga bus
"The Enbies can have whatever they want" should be a shirt
13:17 Not gonna lie but that song has won me over. I need to play it.
Originality by accident/ineptitude it is still originality... (sort of)
I humbly and in gratitude welcome the Discourse Duck into the Jimquisition Canon. Much like the Cornflake Homunculus it will live rent-free in my head forevermore. Thank God for you Steph.
This whole affair smacks of the Roblox Oof sound effect, which was ripped from Messiah for PC, slapped clandestinely onto an assets CD and sold to the creators of Roblox, who were none the wise. Except this time a small company's on the receiving end, and not a disgustingly evil multi-billion dollar exploiter of child labor.
Oh, and Tommy Tallarico isn't involved... this time.
4:38 "Things looked *bleak* but the accused had *faith* they could argue their case, before being *forsaken* "
LMAO!
10:30 He's here to eat cat food and file spurious lawsuits...and he's all out of cat food.
And Limbo of the Lost is so weird and long ago that I forgot it utterly.
Honestly I want more landlord stories now, what the actual hell?
More Storytime with Stephanie Sterling in general, honestly
Glad to see more stuff from you as always! Is there a chance you could cover the situation with Disco Elysium's developers getting screwed over?
What sick fiend would screw those lovely people? D=
Oh yeah... shitty people, I suppose.
WHAAAAT! Excuse me while I go to google…
DAFUQ?! I'm off too 💨
Edit: JFC 🤦♂️ this one is going to take a while to untangle but the new owner looks as reputable as Logan Paul's nft developers
This is the place I come to replenish my humanity.
I like this new Discourse Duck character. I hope they come back in future episodes.
I'm not a fan of wrestling. I just never could get into it. But hearing about your wrestling career and seeing the short videos makes me happy. I might even go to one of your shows if I was in England
Wow. That musical number was unexpected. And insane.
I feel for Laura doing the subtitles for this one. What an impossible situation to be in.
the first joke that came to my mind when you won at the woman's wrestling was "oh so that's why they became trans, so that they can beat women at wrestling"
Woot, Sterling been watching you for years and it is so good to see how well you are doing!
That sucks for those devs because the amount of people who do follow ups to stories they see are few and far between. So, for a lot of people, they'll have only seen the initial story about the plagiarism and never what happened next. Shitty situation.
That King of Limbo song is going to be stuck in my head forever. 😂
As it very well should. It’s a certified bop lmfao.
oh god Limbo of the Lost looks like a fever dream made real
Pretty sure if you put DidYouKnowGaming on the case they could find out what the story is with Limbo of the Lost. They might even let you do the voiceover for what they find.
I thought Mandalore Gaming did a pretty good video on it. He covers what history he could find.
@@nodansland303 Well, perhaps JSS and I can go check it out then.
9:35 I've not thought about The Vengaboys for years. That's a trip down memory lane.
I knew I recognized that sound. There’s a clip out there of Jim singing Boom Boom from the Podtoid days.
Came for the current controversy but was genuinely thrilled to see Limbo of the Lost examined once more.
I don't watch every Jimquisition but when I saw Limbo of the Lost in the thumbnail I instinctively clicked
And I do hope one day you will actually make that Limbo of the Lost documentary, incomplete or not
I was in a discussion about Dune recently. About how House Ordos is a odd duck with being a case of a game adaptation taking liberties with non-canonicity for fun, while these days that wouldn't happen because of internet (nerd) culture getting upset over authenticity... Then some rando butted in claiming it is because of "Catering to woke audiences!!". seriously?!?
You know that word has lost all meaning when even a bunch of geeks getting too invested in authenticity are also called "Woke"...
Damn. I've been worried for a bit about how many game assets being distributed were outright stolen, but this is a wild case. I can't say I anticipated that the ones popping up in large official storefronts were gonna be stolen from a GOTY.
The most I'd noticed was a few years ago when a bunch of terrible cookie-cutter indie horrors were all inexplicably using a music box rendition of the _Sailor Moon_ theme song, apparently without realizing what it was. Never did figure out who was distributing that as some kind of free spooky stock music rotfl.
The MandaloreGaming channel has a video on "Limbo of the Lost" from several years ago. He called it a rare example of a "so bad, it's good" video game! I just found out that the MitchManix channel also made its own video on "Limbo of the Lost." Anyone who wants to hear more about the game should check those videos out!
The commander is the new PCW women's champion? REJOICE!
I feel the need to salute when I see the notification of a new video by the commander
me too
You know what Limbo of the Lost really reminds me of? Tabletop RPG games played with a friend group. Completely out there story-bits. Horrific monstrosities being voiced by a guy trying his best ok? Surprise musical number. Literally everything being done with a twinkle in the eye and a shit-eating smirk.
Congrats on your PCW women's champiohship victory, Steph!
they deserved it :D
Shout out to The Dark Id, must me my favorite screenshot Ley's Play-er. May he find some solace, these years later.
There are now more than a handful of people that know the glory of the Limbo of the Lost Epic Ending.
When you're a large company:
"You're selling stolen goods!"
"Not our problem."
"Oh."
When you're a consumer:
"YOU PIRATED THIS GAME/MUSIC THAT CAN NO LONGER BE BOUGHT! [LEGAL THREATS!] [BANHAMMER!]"
If Epic sold it but didn't own it, uh pretty sure that's theft. Taking money for something you don't own and then saying it's the dev's responsibility to make sure the asset isn't' owned by someone else..... And Epic wonders why people still won't buy games from them.
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Ending with the characters throwing a party for the protag and going nuts?
The White Chamber did that in 05
Ah the skeleton warriors, how I've missed you. Whenever a xenomorph warrior appears in aliens fire team elite that theme song runs through my head and I have James Stephanie Sterling to thank for it. Today I give you double the thanks Steph!
ive long loved (?) limbo of the lost. it was the game that made me realise i have an extremely keen ear for sound effects and the only good part of my memory is being able to recall where i heard that sound effect
I know, I just KNOW, I'm going to catch myself humming, 'the king of limbo' and chuckling to myself like a crazy person tomorrow
Banger of an episode Steph
Honestly the devs deserve no blame here at all. Purchasing stolen goods without knowing they were stolen doesn't make you a thief it makes you a mark.
It's a great day when we are blessed with the Skeleton Warriors after so long.
i had to rewind this vid like 5 times in parts because id blink and suddenly we're talking about the craziest stuff ive ever heard
That Limbo of the Lost song reminds me of something adult swim would write.
I was never into wrestling but I like hearing the wrestling bits cause you seem really happy about your wrestling career and it's nice to see
well here we are, after all these years, who would have thought it could ever pass again that I would have that fucking king of limbo song stuck in my head again
I’m so sorry
Probably should remind people more often what asset flips are as there are still so many who throw it around with really knowing what the term actually means.
I like the idea of blaming outside forces for plagiarized content; it wouldn’t be plagiarism if the content came from inside the studio.
I had to stop this video midway and start over because I was laughing so hard at the singing goblin that I almost had an asthma attack. Thank you Steph and team; y’all are amazing!
Y'know, I don't often go against Stephanie in anyway, but I remember the phone call with Robert Romine (or was it the other one?) where the Romine argued that he bought the official game artwork for the Slaughtering Grounds off Shutterstock, and it turned out to be stolen and Steph replied (paraphrased)"You should have done the research before you did business with them." Is that not the same case here? Where the developers should have done a bit more research before they bought the animations in the first place and are therefore at fault?
Because if not... then maybe the Romine brothers might have been right about something and weren't necessarily at fault for trusting Shutterstock in blind faith. Broken clocks and all that, I suppose. This isn't to exonerate those clowns btw - this just seems like contradictory opinions and I was wondering if Steph had changed her mind, or if this situation is different somehow (y'know, apart from these devs seeming like nicer people who weren't currently attacking her entire livelihood and person)
Whelp, Sterling just got herself a new title in my book: The Queen of Limbo!
Big kudos on your win!
You're an inspiration to us all.
Fun fact @9:35 that guy shaking his head is called a homunculus ... Bring back the cornflakes homunculus you coward!
I remember downloading Limbo of the Lost back when it came out as I was both fascinated by the story behind the game and that fantastic ending song.
I soon realised the story surround the game was much, much more interesting than the game itself. Kinda like that Threatin band.
Kay, so I just looked up that band you mentioned, and holy shit.
‘Each Marketplace seller represents and warrants’ sounds like legalese for ‘they pinkie promise, honest’.
This was an absolute banger of an episode and that's a high bar!
Congrats on the wrestling win! And also the great video! I hope one day you'll get to make that docco you want about that insane game whose name I've already forgotten but whose end song is now burned into my brain for all eternity!
That _Limbo of the Lost_ song was one of the most experiences I've ever.
One of the endings of all time
Great video. That Limbo game is genuinely unnerving to see and know it exists. Keep up the good work.
I love the use of epic skeletons in this one, especially the dancing ones
Thanks for using a dyslexia font for the text bits. While the font is ugly as sin it does help a bunch with readability ^ ^.
Love having you as enby representation. Btw, why isn't Jonathan a sleeper agent?
What if Jonathan actually is a sleeper agent but has not been given the code to wake yet.
@Edy Glockenspiel the code is just Steph and Conrad screaming "WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP" over and over into his ears for 16 hours.
He's probably fully nude.
Really, dude. XD
@Ramon Andrajo do you really have nothing better to do than comment "dude" at trans people?
@@smrtfasizmu7242 In general, yes. ;)
As much as people may dislike it Epic is in the clear, platforms have no requirement to do anything with the context uploaded by somebody else. If they did there wouldn't be an Epic assest shopfront, or a very limited one. There would also be basically no social media so to speak if every platform owner was behooved to regulate uploaded content. We all try to have our cake and eat it, we all want our content uploaded and not controlled by corporations but we also want them to control the content we dislike and/or think is illegal. Is it great, no, but probably better than the alternative.
The outrage over the fucking skill icons using AI artwork is especially petty. Like, who specifically did they supposedly "rip off" there? If its just that the training data for the work was based off others and turned into something new, then it's very clearly a transformative work and should be considered fair use
"I was afraid" - no one can blame you
Limbo of the Lost main character is most probably David 3 from DAZ3D. A lot of models seems to be very recognizable for Gen 2-Gen 3 era.
12:03 You did your best, Laura. I couldn't even get THAT much out of the audio 😂
I love Limbo of the Lost, is such a bad mish-mash of bad ideas and worse acting. I love it
So, Epic basically announced that their "due diligence" is to make the seller sign a document... Isn't that about the same as announcing "Come sell your stolen assets here, we won't check!"?
Gratz on the Championship!
Its nice to see despite the collapse of subscribers there is a supportive community posting positive messages
I'd say this is one of the best vids ypu've done in a while. Pretty interesting and informative. :)
You know you should probably go for the men's championship too. Just to really drive home that "the NB's can do what they want " message
I was thinking the same! That would be freaking rad
People pointing out this indie game having animations stolen from Elden Ring to the extent the developers rework their game. Genshin however steals assets and animations from several other games and everyone's just OK with it.
Sorry Steph, I had to rewind the video a bit because I was in shock from your story about your landlord and had to make sure I wasn’t having an acid flashback while watching your video.
Also you talking about assets makes me feel oddly nostalgic, like watching an old show you grew up with.
Also congrats on the title!!!
@@Eisenbison That literally has nothing to do with what I was talking about. Did you actually watch the video to the point where they told their story, or did you just see “landlord” and jump at an income statement?
I've always appreciated that the intro and outro audio has always sounded like in-camera mic in a small room
I've been really enjoying seeing more of your drawings pop up in your vids lately, Steph!
"My heart goes out to any creative falsely accused of plagiarism.
It's a cardinal sin of creativity.
One of the worst things an artist could be accused of doing, professionally."
- DarkSoulSama, 27/03/2023 ಠ_ಠ