Well you might make a good GM because you are factually correct. Goalie coach Bob Essesna knows how to handpick games according to rosters and locations to coddle schedules. Look carefully at Jeremy's scheduled the last 2 years, open up the rosters to see who showed up to play. Where are the games took place. Jeremy has not played top Western teams in their houses except for maybe Edmonton. When he took on Vegas in boston, neither Jack eichel nor Mark Stone made the trip. I don't believe he's beaten McKinnon? He doesn't know how to help the offensive line YET doesn't know how to use the boards to get the puck up to create breakaways - yet Can't scorpion post to post And he took on a very chaotic and disorganized Toronto team whereby auston Matthews didn't show up whether he laced up or not not saying he's a "bad goalie," he's not there yet As long as Bob is goalie coach, I'm not worried if Jeremy decides to walk. Which I don't see happening. But... It's about time we stopped relying on our goalies to steal games. Let's play hockey - out on the ice not in our crease.
trade $wayman for arthur kaliyev straight up to the kings and start debussi-he's much cheaper and ready!he's not worth that kind of money and we need forwards/wingers!he's not a tim thomas!
Yeah aren't we all TIRED OF HEARING THIS!? Swayman has become way too big headed and 9/10 million is way too much. I feel sad for us fans, but who I have the most empathy for are our players who don't even know who the goalie is gonna be. This needs to end. It's gone way too far. Also agree about Wahlstrom- not the great player Isles fans hoped he'd be and probably would take a miracle, but that may be a new team.
OK, Ullmark's record was 50-47 before coming to boston. Under Bob Essena teachings he was 88-26.He was 22-10 the last year., a little drop off there I'd say. Plus, he will be 31 at the end of the month. I'm sorry I'd much rather take a young goalie with a great amount of upside, than trade him and keep someone who might of already reached his peek.
This might be another huge mistake by Sweeney. If Swayman wants 8 plus million over 8 years, he's crazy. Right in the middle of Saaros and Hellybuck is where he belongs. 9 or 10 mill will make us a middling team through the Sway, Pasta, macAvoy Era. I love him but winning one series and playing great over partial seasons IS just a start but he has to do more first
Ya obviously I'd like more term less money. But, there are lots of ways they can do an 8yr deal!! They could sayyy, the first 2 years, he gets 6.5, than next 4 he gets 8, last 2 he gets 9 with a 1M signing bonus. Or do performance bonuses any year of the deal. I mean, teams have done this before. If the goal is for Jeremy to get a specific number in value, Then the term is irrelevant as long as he hits the number. It would leave them with a little extra money this season. Next season cap goes up a bit more to. They will get this done one way or another. However, regardless, They will not have enough in the bank to sign or trade for that matter, for anyone else unless they unload a contract. My guess is it would be Hampus. Some might say Carlo. Both of those guys have enough term left you could get some room back that way. I'm not suggesting they'd do that, nor would I want them to.
I’d like to see them try a 3-5 yr deal. He played fantastic in the playoffs but not a large enough sample for me to do 8m for 8yr type of thing. Swayman seems like he’s shooting for max dough, good for him but I wouldn’t max out for him.
Honestly, given his body of work and comparables 8 million is a generous overpayment and the fact that he’s pushing for significantly more just shows that he is spoiled and greedy. I’m sure the agent is the A-hole in the room since it’s his job to get as much money as possible and they gain a massive commission on every contract but Swayman needs to get off his high horse too. This is an original six franchise with a team to run. 8 is more than enough, if not a straight up overpay based off things he hasn’t even done yet.
These huge contract’s with a lot of term take time to get done. it took the Pastrnak extension months to get completed. the time to worry if you are getting close to training camp, and there is no progress. it is a game of who blinks first.
Sick of this Swayman 8x8 bs. One playoff run doesn’t atomically make you worth 8 million+. Sign him 6x5 and make him earn his next contract. And 10 million for this kid is absolutely absurd. It’s time for Swayman and his camp to take it down a notch.
Swayman is tripping we gotta get out this era of players having ONE good year and we thinking there gonna keep playing that way or “legendary”. Swayman better realize if he gets paid if he doesn’t play like bobrovsky us fans are gonna legit give him hell and he’s gonna wanna get out of Boston. Todays generation is cray when are they gonna learn you legit have to earn your money
It seems that this is the new school athlete. People forget that most professional hockey players were rich and spoonfed up until the moment they signed their first NHL contract anyway. These kids are spoiled and entitled, and have always been told that they deserve the sun, the moon and the stars so it’s not that surprising that after getting their very FIRST taste of success….they think they should be paid as much as the top guys in the entire NHL who have been there and done that. Honestly Swayman is setting himself up for some serious pressure from the fans
@@hockeytalk6084 couldn’t agree more with you bro. He deserves every yelling coming his way “Mr. I deserve 8 million”. I wish him the best but let him under perform in playoffs guaranteed thst confidence will go away reallllll quick
Price never really had a good team in front of him , lunquist same thing in new York, both great goalies with out a team to get them the cup they both deserved, swayman has a good enough team to win the cup, may take a year or 2 to get it right , but he is the goalie we need , we have the defense stacked , an yes I know we need a scoring winger to put us over the top, but that may take a year or 2
These young guns are having one good year and then demanding a boatload of money. Sway needs to think of the big picture and realize if he wants to win in Boston, he can’t be too greedy like McAvoy!
If memory serves me right? Mike O'connell was the coach for the last nine games. I believe after that Mike Sullivan got his start in coaching in the NHL the next season?
7 to 8m for 8yrs sounds good to me for a 25yr old goalie hitting his prime , marchands time is running out for him to win another cup , an what ever we have lefr in cap space after the swayman signing we need ro look for another winger , even if its another PTO player
Goalies are like quarterbacks . They get paid . A goalie can take a mediocre team to the cup finals and win it . I've seen it several times . Get it done Don!
It was legit one year…..Ullmark went from goalie of the year to getting bench we gotta slow down……keep that same energy if he gets paid and doesn’t perform well
@@BRSports33 Bro Swayman has the tools though . I agree guys can flash than suck . But there's so many signs with Sway . Positioning, Size , reflexes, Vision , hockey sense , it's all there. I hope I'm right and time will tell . But imagine if he skates . Harry Sinden said Number 4 could've played NHL hockey at 16 . Not that he's Orr , but worth a shot even if he's highest paid . And , Goalie Bob must have some imput right ? Uhlmark is gone eh?
Don Sweeny & the bruins screwd themselves by trading Ullmark before signing Swayman. He had one good season under his belt doesn’t warrant the money him & his agent are demanding. To me, he knows he is holding all the cards & he's just getting greedy.
One good season doesn’t make him the future man in net. He needs a second season to make a demand like that.
Thats exactly why your not gm...
Well you might make a good GM because you are factually correct.
Goalie coach Bob Essesna knows how to handpick games according to rosters and locations to coddle schedules.
Look carefully at Jeremy's scheduled the last 2 years, open up the rosters to see who showed up to play. Where are the games took place.
Jeremy has not played top Western teams in their houses except for maybe Edmonton.
When he took on Vegas in boston, neither Jack eichel nor Mark Stone made the trip.
I don't believe he's beaten McKinnon?
He doesn't know how to help the offensive line YET
doesn't know how to use the boards to get the puck up to create breakaways - yet
Can't scorpion post to post
And he took on a very chaotic and disorganized Toronto team whereby auston Matthews didn't show up whether he laced up or not
not saying he's a "bad goalie," he's not there yet
As long as Bob is goalie coach, I'm not worried if Jeremy decides to walk.
Which I don't see happening.
But...
It's about time we stopped relying on our goalies to steal games.
Let's play hockey - out on the ice not in our crease.
He has been good from his first day LOL
@@STONE69_ Uhlmark out played him.
No its his agent
7.5 max for 8years. Still good $$ 9or 10 is absolute insanity
Swayman and his camp are pushing for too much. This is getting obnoxious
The bruins traded the wrong goalie. Swayman is worth 5.5 million a year if even that. Bruins trade him before its too late.
trade $wayman for arthur kaliyev straight up to the kings and start debussi-he's much cheaper and ready!he's not worth that kind of money and we need forwards/wingers!he's not a tim thomas!
Ullmark had to go... asap...
There is only two choices, a 3 year deal or an eight year deal 3x5 or 8x8. Bruins want to give 6.5x8.
Shouldn’t have traded Ullmark before signing Swayman. Gave Swayman all the negotiating leverage.
Sweens showing off his Harvard "education" - guess he didnt take "How NOT to paint yourself into a corner"
#FireSweeney
Yeah aren't we all TIRED OF HEARING THIS!? Swayman has become way too big headed and 9/10 million is way too much. I feel sad for us fans, but who I have the most empathy for are our players who don't even know who the goalie is gonna be. This needs to end. It's gone way too far. Also agree about Wahlstrom- not the great player Isles fans hoped he'd be and probably would take a miracle, but that may be a new team.
Nothing above 8 AAV, maaaaaaybe 8.5. Long term, lower money. I always said to extend Ulmark and trade Swayman.
OK, Ullmark's record was 50-47 before coming to boston. Under Bob Essena teachings he was 88-26.He was 22-10 the last year., a little drop off there I'd say. Plus, he will be 31 at the end of the month. I'm sorry I'd much rather take a young goalie with a great amount of upside, than trade him and keep someone who might of already reached his peek.
@@michealgallagher3423 ..and on his way down the other side of the hill.
This might be another huge mistake by Sweeney. If Swayman wants 8 plus million over 8 years, he's crazy. Right in the middle of Saaros and Hellybuck is where he belongs. 9 or 10 mill will make us a middling team through the Sway, Pasta, macAvoy Era. I love him but winning one series and playing great over partial seasons IS just a start but he has to do more first
Ya obviously I'd like more term less money. But, there are lots of ways they can do an 8yr deal!! They could sayyy, the first 2 years, he gets 6.5, than next 4 he gets 8, last 2 he gets 9 with a 1M signing bonus. Or do performance bonuses any year of the deal. I mean, teams have done this before. If the goal is for Jeremy to get a specific number in value, Then the term is irrelevant as long as he hits the number. It would leave them with a little extra money this season. Next season cap goes up a bit more to. They will get this done one way or another. However, regardless, They will not have enough in the bank to sign or trade for that matter, for anyone else unless they unload a contract. My guess is it would be Hampus. Some might say Carlo. Both of those guys have enough term left you could get some room back that way. I'm not suggesting they'd do that, nor would I want them to.
I’d like to see them try a 3-5 yr deal. He played fantastic in the playoffs but not a large enough sample for me to do 8m for 8yr type of thing. Swayman seems like he’s shooting for max dough, good for him but I wouldn’t max out for him.
8 mil x 8 years sounds like a very fair deal for both sides
That's what I said about a month ago.
yep 10 million is way too much!he's getting greedy!
Honestly, given his body of work and comparables 8 million is a generous overpayment and the fact that he’s pushing for significantly more just shows that he is spoiled and greedy. I’m sure the agent is the A-hole in the room since it’s his job to get as much money as possible and they gain a massive commission on every contract but Swayman needs to get off his high horse too. This is an original six franchise with a team to run. 8 is more than enough, if not a straight up overpay based off things he hasn’t even done yet.
These huge contract’s with a lot of term take time to get done. it took the Pastrnak extension months to get completed. the time to worry if you are getting close to training camp, and there is no progress. it is a game of who blinks first.
Sick of this Swayman 8x8 bs. One playoff run doesn’t atomically make you worth 8 million+. Sign him 6x5 and make him earn his next contract. And 10 million for this kid is absolutely absurd. It’s time for Swayman and his camp to take it down a notch.
Swayman is tripping we gotta get out this era of players having ONE good year and we thinking there gonna keep playing that way or “legendary”. Swayman better realize if he gets paid if he doesn’t play like bobrovsky us fans are gonna legit give him hell and he’s gonna wanna get out of Boston. Todays generation is cray when are they gonna learn you legit have to earn your money
It seems that this is the new school athlete. People forget that most professional hockey players were rich and spoonfed up until the moment they signed their first NHL contract anyway. These kids are spoiled and entitled, and have always been told that they deserve the sun, the moon and the stars so it’s not that surprising that after getting their very FIRST taste of success….they think they should be paid as much as the top guys in the entire NHL who have been there and done that. Honestly Swayman is setting himself up for some serious pressure from the fans
@@hockeytalk6084 couldn’t agree more with you bro. He deserves every yelling coming his way “Mr. I deserve 8 million”. I wish him the best but let him under perform in playoffs guaranteed thst confidence will go away reallllll quick
I kind of feel like we’ll end up seeing a bridge deal 3-4 years for like 5-6 mil per
Hes contract's gonna be under 8M for sure... i would say between 6.8 and 7.8M
how did giving 10.5 mil per year to Carey Price work out for the Canadians?
Made the finals once, but aside from that pretty bad considering Price’s peak was 2015
@@JollyCanadian and the contract is still on the books for 2 more seasons
Price never really had a good team in front of him , lunquist same thing in new York, both great goalies with out a team to get them the cup they both deserved, swayman has a good enough team to win the cup, may take a year or 2 to get it right , but he is the goalie we need , we have the defense stacked , an yes I know we need a scoring winger to put us over the top, but that may take a year or 2
Who is we. I wouldnt give sway more than 6 mil. Hit the road sway!
These young guns are having one good year and then demanding a boatload of money. Sway needs to think of the big picture and realize if he wants to win in Boston, he can’t be too greedy like McAvoy!
If memory serves me right? Mike O'connell was the coach for the last nine games. I believe after that Mike Sullivan got his start in coaching in the NHL the next season?
I still dont understand why Swayman isnt signed yet.
7 to 8m for 8yrs sounds good to me for a 25yr old goalie hitting his prime , marchands time is running out for him to win another cup , an what ever we have lefr in cap space after the swayman signing we need ro look for another winger , even if its another PTO player
I’m over it. Guess we’ll see when the season opens 😂
O'Connell stepped in for the rest of the season.
Neither. Let him walk and bring Bussi up and then fire Sweeney for trading the better goalie before he signed Swayman.
My guess would be Steve Kasper ,
Mike Moffatt
Blaine Lacher
Andrew Raycroft
Sway is possibly a 4th for this list
Traded away our collateral
Goalies are like quarterbacks . They get paid . A goalie can take a mediocre team to the cup finals and win it . I've seen it several times . Get it done Don!
It was legit one year…..Ullmark went from goalie of the year to getting bench we gotta slow down……keep that same energy if he gets paid and doesn’t perform well
@@BRSports33
Bro Swayman has the tools though . I agree guys can flash than suck . But there's so many signs with Sway . Positioning, Size , reflexes, Vision , hockey sense , it's all there. I hope I'm right and time will tell . But imagine if he skates . Harry Sinden said Number 4 could've played NHL hockey at 16 . Not that he's Orr , but worth a shot even if he's highest paid . And , Goalie Bob must have some imput right ? Uhlmark is gone eh?
Don Sweeny & the bruins screwd themselves by trading Ullmark before signing Swayman. He had one good season under his belt doesn’t warrant the money him & his agent are demanding. To me, he knows he is holding all the cards & he's just getting greedy.
Bruins shouldn't have traded Ulmark till signed # JS back them in a corner' Mike OConnell
forget wahlstrom-he suscks!are you serious?most defensemen can score more than this stiff!tired of hearing about the swayman issue!
You gotta relax... lol... he will sign...
hey wants like carey price money?
8x4
Its all speculation... thats not surprising... he got an excellent run last season and his agent's a $ sckr 🐍...
I’m not going to pay him more then 7
Swayman is greedy. He only two years and not proven. Lysell and Merkolov will be just as good as Jake. Jake was underachieving.
Start bussi , kids going be great. Trade swayman he's to greedy an Ullmark was way better goalie
move him. bussi will be stellar anyway the bruins organization is a goalie factory.
I hate Boston always will but man I’m a leaf’s fan and I wished we had swyaman lol he was unbelievable against us but ya manrer needs to go 😄
U do u all care how much $ he gets?…i’m sure bobrovsky heard the same talk….