@@BranBronzebeard701 for real? That'll be juicy, I'll check it out to see if it'll be like Shadow's but have I missed playing that game with the cool kids.
@@PeaceJaime123 depending on the comp. I ran ele blast when my other dps tended to be the primary target in solo shuffle. I was able to blast safely from range and bursted melee down easy
Okay .. knowing what to kick is covered.. My question, Should gameplay focus be on cast bars? Is that what arena pvp'rs are mostly watching? Obviously there's lots to watch for.. like when enemies pop cds or gain buffs, as well as watching everyone and everything else. I guess my problem is tunneling cast bars and losing sight of other important things
Good. Kicks existing will always put the caster at an innate disadvantage because even faking will always mean you lose time during which exactly zero output is produced from the caster. There's a reason instant casts are king. It's just important that they don't overdo it and I think it would be fair to revert the duration of the precog buff back to 4s for 10.1.
@@Sh4d0wch40s That's part of the chess game of WoW. Similar to how Roots are the chess game of Melee. That's why precog was given to Casters. Because of the time you lose faking, the haste plus cc immunity lets you make up that loss. Always felt that kick durations should be tied to the cd of the kick. For example, I'm actually okay with Pummel (my main kick) going down to 3 secs because it gives it a good ratio of 1 sec lock out for 5 secs of cd. I feel this should be the defining ratio. So, for every 5 secs of cd your kick needs to be available it locks a spell school out for 1 sec. The only elephant is Evokers because their base kick cd is 40 secs (unless talented to be 20 secs). That would give them an 8 sec lockout, something really not good at all. I really feel Quell should be baseline 20 secs with a 4 sec lockout. Not something you have to talent into.
So, some low priority spell still lock a caster out of major defensives because of their spell school. I've literally won tons of games kicking a Frost mage on Frostbolt or a shadow priest on Mind Flay. Would of liked if you caveated some of these low priorities saying "Low, but if close to a kill, still good to kick."
FACT: None of this matters if they keep ruining other classes while making others OP... Like Ret for example. Because classes like Resto Druid, Disc Priest & Rogue (just to name a few) feel absolutely useless and are unplayable for serious players. . Rerolling is the new Meta.
This is so tiring. Rogue, Disc and RDruid ruled PvP for the entire season. Only since 10.7 have they not been head and shoulders above other classes. Stop it, already
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Would this still apply if I am 2900 in solo shuffles?
As a priest healer, I appreciate this video, from the bottom of my heart.
You get kick next patch ad a pvp talent
@@BranBronzebeard701 for real? That'll be juicy, I'll check it out to see if it'll be like Shadow's but have I missed playing that game with the cool kids.
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Frost stops both ice barrier and ice block on mages, shadow stops warlocks wall and spriests disperse 😅
nice guide, can u please make a "purge" video as well ? please
You forgot to mention ele blast for shamans. Kicking ele blast will lock them out of every school.
Do people run that?
@@PeaceJaime123 depending on the comp. I ran ele blast when my other dps tended to be the primary target in solo shuffle. I was able to blast safely from range and bursted melee down easy
Also lightning lasso, you can kick it to stop cc and dmg, plus it's nature school
Okay .. knowing what to kick is covered..
My question,
Should gameplay focus be on cast bars? Is that what arena pvp'rs are mostly watching? Obviously there's lots to watch for.. like when enemies pop cds or gain buffs, as well as watching everyone and everything else. I guess my problem is tunneling cast bars and losing sight of other important things
You guys forgot to mention that if you lock the quick demon re-summon that it goes on cooldown and they have to slow cast it after.
If they purge it yea, not kick alone
Nice guide, will however be useless come 10.1, when kicking spells will be a higher risk than reward scenario from those damn precog buffs
Good. Kicks existing will always put the caster at an innate disadvantage because even faking will always mean you lose time during which exactly zero output is produced from the caster.
There's a reason instant casts are king.
It's just important that they don't overdo it and I think it would be fair to revert the duration of the precog buff back to 4s for 10.1.
@@Sh4d0wch40s That's part of the chess game of WoW. Similar to how Roots are the chess game of Melee. That's why precog was given to Casters. Because of the time you lose faking, the haste plus cc immunity lets you make up that loss. Always felt that kick durations should be tied to the cd of the kick. For example, I'm actually okay with Pummel (my main kick) going down to 3 secs because it gives it a good ratio of 1 sec lock out for 5 secs of cd. I feel this should be the defining ratio. So, for every 5 secs of cd your kick needs to be available it locks a spell school out for 1 sec. The only elephant is Evokers because their base kick cd is 40 secs (unless talented to be 20 secs). That would give them an 8 sec lockout, something really not good at all. I really feel Quell should be baseline 20 secs with a 4 sec lockout. Not something you have to talent into.
I really hope it wont be a mage dominated patcg, but i fear it is
Kicking will never be useless, just don't get faked all the time 5head
Mind games is not doing any damage as an sp since DF nerf, frost bolt for frost mage can crit up to 110k in 10.0.7, so I think the video is outdated.
So, some low priority spell still lock a caster out of major defensives because of their spell school. I've literally won tons of games kicking a Frost mage on Frostbolt or a shadow priest on Mind Flay. Would of liked if you caveated some of these low priorities saying "Low, but if close to a kill, still good to kick."
Reminder to all my mages out there that you can cold snap iceblock if youre kicked on frost
Much needed video, thank you
Do you have such a guide for wow classic? ❤
I like this format more than the troll format with the 14 yr old narrating.
Please some new 10.0.7 2v2 & 3v3 PvP Arena Comb Videos 🤞
Melees dont care.They interrupt and stun everything with low cds
This is the way 😅
Talk about warriors, they’ll interrupt you even if you’re not casting
Only the bad ones
yah
Affli all cast need kick:(
FACT: None of this matters if they keep ruining other classes while making others OP... Like Ret for example.
Because classes like Resto Druid, Disc Priest & Rogue (just to name a few) feel absolutely useless and are unplayable for serious players. .
Rerolling is the new Meta.
Those classes are kinda still the meta xd
This is so tiring. Rogue, Disc and RDruid ruled PvP for the entire season. Only since 10.7 have they not been head and shoulders above other classes. Stop it, already
This aged poorly, but maybe not cause my class is dookie (Dk)
I don't learn as well without Ezreal talking to me
I know right
same
A 3 min intro XD
Help rdruids !!!
Glacial Spike is bait now it got nuked does low 100k now.
Yo where's the ol boy at who usually does the talking?
And that's the real issue for new players , PvP is not friendly at all
Who is this narrator?! What happened to the other guy? Lol
This is a direct video form their Website. One of their courses, which all are narrated by a different person. Hence the different Narrator. The other guy narrates their UA-cam Content when its a vid made for UA-cam or made for both platforms. This is Skill Capped just giving a course vid for free.
this is a different voice, bring the other voice back please