Plato | Cratylus - Full audiobook with accompanying text (AudioEbook)

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  • @paideia-e9u
    @paideia-e9u 3 роки тому +4

    Again, many thanks to Mr. Lewis Kirt for posting these Plato's classical Dialogue. This is a treasure of teaching far beyond than many could imagine, a lifetime study and training for humanity and many others Paideia Society

  • @artlessons1
    @artlessons1 Рік тому +1

    Thanks! Mr Kirk .they are amazing i listened to them all and will again!!!

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  Рік тому +1

      You are most welcome! So much knowledge and wisdom to be gleaned from the Platonic dialogues. 😊🙏

  • @WhenceRed
    @WhenceRed 4 роки тому +9

    OMG! An Audio Book that DARES display Synchronized Text !?!
    Isn't it amazing that the most obvious things seem strange or amazing when we are unaccustomed to their event
    (the event as collective phenomenon of synchrentous instants, vs the error of indivual stance events accumulated or collected: the former, the spheres surface or bow's aim; the latter, the sphere's origin center or arrow's mark ?)

    • @WhenceRed
      @WhenceRed 4 роки тому +1

      rather
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      [ENTER]
      ?

    • @WhenceRed
      @WhenceRed 4 роки тому +1

      showing the mistake with the correction says more (information theory) says more than if the mistake is corrected, removed, and whose successor is presented as the first case rather than its (now absent) place as second and (here ever after, without outside correction) absent is its precedence

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  4 роки тому +4

      Do you enjoy the synchronised text? For me it was the only thing to do.

    • @WhenceRed
      @WhenceRed 4 роки тому +1

      I was surprised by how much sense it makes, so obvious and rare, ya know?

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  4 роки тому +5

      It makes perfect sense. But you're right, I've not seen it anywhere else! Makes it all the more novel. There are a lot more of Plato's dialogues in the playlist. Check them out. 👍

  • @augustineopara2887
    @augustineopara2887 Рік тому

    Thank so so much Lewis Kirk. You are great.

  • @Lomiei
    @Lomiei Рік тому +1

    The part at 50:30 hit so many correct points, it's crazy

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  Рік тому +1

      Plato knew what he was talking about 🙏

  • @LucasWKeogh
    @LucasWKeogh 2 роки тому +3

    If you’re reading this you’re a deep Plato student :) no one else would dare go near this dialogue!

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  2 роки тому +1

      Yes, Plato is serious business, and Cratylus is right up there with the best of them!

    • @anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858
      @anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858 Рік тому

      Yes; an enthusiastic opinion. For clearly there "exist" many ways one could deviate from your perception. These infinite numbers of ways need not be named. The limitlessness would drive you to madness.

  • @omnimatty
    @omnimatty 2 роки тому +1

    This is very well read. Thank you.

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  2 роки тому +1

      You are welcome. It’s my pleasure.
      If you are interested, I am planning to work through the Republic soon on my other channel. I’m a keen to share that great work. Hope you will come for the journey.

    • @LucasWKeogh
      @LucasWKeogh 2 роки тому

      @@lewiskirk8289 hi Lewis, what is this other channel and have you started it yet? Love all of your Plato reading and have been eagerly waiting for you to release the last ones :)

  • @joevonzarelli106
    @joevonzarelli106 2 місяці тому +1

    Funny, at somewhere around 1hr 30 min. They roll from what it means to be human into a discussion about using letters to represent characteristics of a thing; that you could string together in a group to recreate beings. This "feels like" a precursor to DNA theory. Then they lament that they realize this can be done but due to their position in time, that the tech isn't there... good to know

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  2 місяці тому +1

      Great insight and interpretation 👌

  • @TimV-t8x
    @TimV-t8x 6 місяців тому +1

    45:21 Ousia Essia Ossia Estin Hestia
    1:11:28 Doctrine of Motion || Flux || Becoming

  • @nkoppa5332
    @nkoppa5332 Рік тому +2

    I wonder how Wittgenstein would interpret this.

  • @R.J.Mathews
    @R.J.Mathews 3 роки тому +1

    "Greek or foreigner"? I stopped hearing after that.

    • @jeroenlouwerse7454
      @jeroenlouwerse7454 2 роки тому +1

      Do you have a better translation?

    • @R.J.Mathews
      @R.J.Mathews 2 роки тому

      @@jeroenlouwerse7454 The librivox audiobook version of Cratylus seems to be more accurate. ua-cam.com/video/XpHe-XqD-LU/v-deo.html Narrators sound pretty dull and robotic on both cases I'm afraid. Regarding my first comment I would like to give bit more context. In the original Greek version of the book, Plato says "there is a natural correctness of names, which is the same for everyone, Greek or barbarian". This guy, probably for political correctness reasons replaced the word barbarian with foreigner. The listener is not stupid, he can understand that he means foreigners but accuracy to the book is vital. Especially for a book that has as a subject the importance and origin of names. Librivox seems way more accurate in that regard.