How to End Christian Nationalism ft. Amanda Tyler | Freethought Matters
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- Опубліковано 6 лют 2025
- This week on Freethought Matters, FFRF Co-Presidents Annie Laurie Gaylor and Dan Barker speak with Amanda Tyler, lead organizer of Christians Against Christian Nationalism and executive director of the Baptist Joint Committee, about how Christian nationalism can be defeated. Her new book, "How to End Christian Nationalism" is directed primarily at Christians.
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Such an important topic!
This country is like a loaded freight train, going backwards down the mountain without any breaks in fact with the pedal to the metal. I’m not so sure we will survive this ride.
It's brakes. Not breaks. The land of stupid always disappoints.
You know what the poster meant. I would say the land of the petty disappoints.
@ thank you. It’s all about the point. I was trying to make. Trump’s tariffs are going to kill our economy. Mark my words. Then there’s getting rid of all of the FBI heads that keep us safe and replacing them with ignorant yes men, and getting rid of the FAA head and the FAA safety group, and the the IG who are independent watchers of how our taxes are spent . Is any efficient is government is the experience and knowledge that these career government workers bring cannot be replaced with stupid ESP with the orange turd.
Facts Facts Facts I'm appalled everyday
It has been since the Regan era. We began to descend. I started reading during my time in the Army- 2000+. What we see is based on history repeating itself through ignorance and not bettering our public schools. It is the Trojan horse but not- all European history repeating wanting a king. But for the peasants there is no more brown continents to invade and pillage.
We should be talking about building an open source global platform for digital democracy so we can vote for principles and policies instead of personalities and political parties, and ratify the principles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the Earth Charter.
Thank you.
I learned something new about the history you’re movement. I am Jewish and believe in freedom of religion and separation of church and state.
Respecting Religion? Religion *DOES NOT DESERVE ANY RESPECT WHATSOEVER!* Religion deserves *ONLY THE UTMOST CONTEMPT!*
The problem is not religion, but rather the religious. Especially the hateful hypocrites who seek to force their erroneous beliefs (against what their religion they claim to believe espouses) onto others. Also, don't forget those who worship mammon -- the greatest religious threat of all. However, as this video depicts, not all religious people are hateful and evil.
@@grepora *THE PROBLEM LIES IN RELIGION AND THE RELIGIOUS!*
Your contempt for religion is understandable, but being vehemently against religion can result in similar discrimination and violence as seen from vehement Christo-fascists. There needs to be a middle ground but with strong guardrails. The US constitution left too many important things up for interpretation.
@@jonathanrossddsmhs1271 The US Constitution is an *ABJECT FAILURE!* Its *only* value is as *TOILET PAPER!* The First Amendment is written in mealy-mouthed sentiment that *UTTERLY FAILS* to maintain that *WALL OF SEPARATION* between State and church. It should place *SECULAR GOVERNMENT* well above the church but fails dismally to do so.
@@jonathanrossddsmhs1271 so when a criminal commits a heinous crime against you or your family you would recommend we find middle ground and say well maybe prison isn’t appropriate?
I hope we can have her making these arguments before SCOTUS if they review the separation of state and church
THIS: “A forced faith is no faith at all.”
"Forced worship stinks in God's nostrils" (Roger Williams)
There's no such thing as ghosts; conversation over.
Fun group!
Agree wholeheartedly
23:17 Doesn't science already tell us what really works to end religion? Universal healthcare and the empowerment of women. I know these sound like indirect means, but the science is both clear and amazing!
It depends on the nature of the religious belief. If the indoctrination cut early and deep into identity, nothing might shake the belief.
Oh boy... hehe... with the greatest respect to the two speakers... America and the world are embracing fascism because of end-stage capitalism. Christian nationalism maintains a symbiotic relationship with fascism. We're not getting rid of either. Just enjoy the time we have left.
this guy gets it
I don't do anyone wrong. I am an atheist. I curse those that do me wrong until they stop. I am with Team Fairness and Church of Fairness. I serve the all-powerful. It is real. It is nonlocal. Locality is defined as not real.
Those who bear the most children will pass their beliefs into the future.
Religion is all about getting rich, The more members the more power though more money they get.
They didn't get mine, thankfully.
Agreed!
Do you make your free newspaper in Spanish?
I'm an active Latter-day Saint Christian and FULLY support eliminating white Christian nationalism, destructive religious practices and bigotry, of all kinds. IMO, religion should be a vehicle for teaching: love, peace, service, forgiveness and no judgement, and to form groups for service projects and opportunities. I believe Jesus was a liberal who helped the poor and needy and taught non-violence, as we all should follow, and he taught to simply support the government by paying taxes and peaceful relationships. He NEVER taught his followers to take over the government and force their beliefs and opinions on others, as MAGA does.
PLEASE ADDRESS THESE ISSUES:
I talked to a man who said two things that I think are vitally important to deal with:
1. Founding fathers were ‘biblical’ … not ‘christian’ or ‘religious’ but ‘biblical’. It they were then they would not have made a constitution of WE, FOR, BY THE PEOPLE
2. That he believes christians are being discriminated against … how do we address that?
Christianity of the New Testament has persecution as a core tenet. You won’t convince any Christian that they are not being discriminating against even though they make up a majority in the US and also control politics. We can only continue chipping away at this theocracy with efforts like you’ll find here.
I know that Hitch and Dawkins have both written a lot about the Founding Fathers and their stances against a state religion, but off the top of my head Jefferson and Madison were both quite vocal about separation of church and state, and Paine was critical of all organized religion.
As for "discrimination," they are the second largest religious group in America (behind Catholics, which they don't recognize as Christians) and they have massive social and political power. How can a group that is in power be victims of discrimination? They push this fictitious persecution narrative because it is essential to their interpretation of their specific edition of the Bible.
@@petersage5157 Yup. I've been following them for decades and these two issues are now new-ish. Listen to Christians Against Christian Nationalism.
@@petersage5157 When you're used to privilege, equality can seem like oppression.
There were great disparities among Founding Fathers, which is in part how the Bill of Rights ended up as amendments outside the body of the Constitution as originally proposed, and how "Incorporation" ended up a ratified 14th Amendment as of 1868, and not an original element (changing the former 1st Am. restriction to "Congress shall make no law").
Of note, 9 or 13 Colonies had been theocracies, 3 remaining as such after formation of the USA for some decades. Southern Anglican theocracy was closed down for 40 years with the Revolution, but Northeastern Congregational and other Protestant theocracy and tax supported church was not until years later.
The implementation of the 14th Amendment, such as by the Civil Rights Act of 1871, remains to this day the most litigated element of our Constitution, due to conflicted factions, and difficulty defining what "equal protections of law" even means.
What is this amendment?
I don't think Trump is even a Christian.
Duh
If you’re going to curate/delete viewer comments then I would recommend you put community guidelines to provide some reasoning as to why you’re censoring some responses.
I would suggest Annie and Dan get over their personal prejudices, to the extent some run contrary to the very civil rights standards FFRF purports to advocate for.
Given "Google Gaslight" and algorithm driven censorship, shadow banning, or devaluing, and use of YT and worse, Meta, in official government info outlets and legal public forums, we need stronger case law and remedies to shut down both government and government agent censorship of lawfully strict scrutiny level protected speech, like it or not by different social or economic or religious values.
Even comments to this coment, are being gaslighted.
@I know, it’s ridiculous. I believe UA-cam is partly to blame for this as well as the channel owner. That’s why Reddit is a better place for discussion
@@kesagatame I'm not sure about Reddit as often a chaotic viper pit, but Alphabet (stock owner of Google, YT, and spy and ad sister entities) clearly is a problem in bad faith (re: safe haven law), and confuses when channel owners or those AI bots are acting abusive.
The bot behaviors also seem to vary with whether or what monetization a channel owner configures, and so they're also never unrelated.
Case law for public forums leaves present remedies for those cases that are clearly illegal, and not just unethical, vague as to which parties are liable or culpable, or how violations may be prosecuted.
@ it is my experience that these issues have become more apparent recently (since COVID) as I suspect the original interest was to curtail misinformation. Now it seems any opinion that may diverge from the channel owner is flagged or simply deleted.
I see from your account that you’ve been on the platform for a while (I think I’m going on 16 years) , so you’ve witness these trends over time. UA-cam is no longer the place it used to be due to monetization.
The solution is real Christians living a life like Christ. Showing what Christians really believe and live...so let your light shine before men.
how about SCIENCE Nationalism !!!
The first mistake is calling what we see playing out as “Christianity” it’s not, it’s “Paulianity” they killed those that followed Jesus’s teachings by around the year 360 , 300 years or so after the killed Jesus.
An election using choose-one plurality voting isn't a fair election. equal dot vote slash equalvote
Who needs the constitution or rule of law when we have D Trump and right wing Jesus?
that lady thinks a zombie is real
Does the FFRF recognize gender ideology as a religion?
There is no "gender ideology". Just science and reason. And both of those tell us that we don't know enough about the spectrum of gender - or sex - yet. However, what we definitely know is that it isn't as simple as two sexes/two genders designated by the physical appearance and function of the reproductive organs we are born with.
There has to be a supernatural element for it to be a religion.
Yes, but there are people who are religious who are freethinkers. They believe in science, Analytical Philosophy, and a politics free of religion and a religion free of politics.
Being religious necessarily confines one's thinking within a framework where one's beliefs cannot be negated.
@PhokenKuul So does any other belief. The key word here, is "belief." All have a framework as you say.
@ That's absolutely not true. If evidence comes that refutes accepted scientific belief then that is accepted, textbooks are rewritten. This does not happen with the religious.
@@PhokenKuul Faith in science is a belief supported by the facts. As I said every belief has a framework. Religion does have this. Just look at the different religions. Even in the same religion one can find different frameworks. It is supported by faith and some would say history.
@ I didn't say religious belief has a framework. I said being religious necessarily confines one's thinking within a framework where one's beliefs cannot be negated. You said every belief does. I showed that that was untrue. Now you're trying to re-frame the argument. Stick to the subject at hand. Being religious precludes one from being truly free thinking.
How do you end Satanic Democrats?
equal dot vote slash equalvote
They don't exist.
@scottplumer3668 Just because you bury your head in the sand doesn't mean they don't exist.
@@JamesMorris-l8b Prove it.
@@scottplumer3668this individual is a paid troll. You’ll notice that many news outlet have reverted to closing off their comment sections because of these bad faith actors polluting social media with absolute nonsense