Tbh, I do not feel at all the « change » to the drop they recently made to abyssal. I’m still getting 70-80% rare (blue) useless runes, a lot of flat stat, and useless crafting materials. Abyssal is just not worth it, and honestly, com2us is not worth it either. Just waiting for the black clover game to come out and hopefully switch from this nightmare of a game.
Remember people, make Com2Us pay attention by not spending any money on the game. Dont farm Abyssal and dont top up a cent. That dropping sales revenue chart during their meetings will force them to wake up and make actual changes.
People gotta understand that "talk with your wallet" thing really doesn't work well😅 I really wish it did, cause a lot of games are either greedy with micro transactions or just don't listen to the community. Or both. That's always fun.
@@thepotatogod_- It's the only thing that works actually. If they mess up but people continue spending money on the game they have no incentive to listen to anything cause they are getting paid. However, if they mess up and suddenly they make let's say half of what they used to they are actually forced to listen to the complaints and try to make the people spend money again by listening to the community and addressing the cause of what made the people spend less money otherwise they'll run into a lot of problems. Unless they are really trying to make this game die which considering it's their biggest source of income I really doubt.
I think that the most effected player group are mid game players. They are wanting for mana to upgrade runes, which then hurts their rune farming, which just keeps hurting their mana supply and team quality, and so on. Plus, we don't have LD5 for these crazy speed teams.
Just like SeanB said, drop rates for abyssal is horrendous at least seeing that abyss run times are basically double the B10 times for couple percent chance at intangible runes. Best thing to do until com2us devs do something about this is to literally farm artis or the new spritiual realm for a couple of seal sets.
I can do Abyss Normal in 16 seconds, haven't tried hard but got 1:08 in hard mode. Even if the fastest I could get was 48-50 seconds, that is triple the time for one run.
The rune upgrade cost is what really pisses me off about this update. Upgrading from 12 to 15 was pretty expensive but 1 to 12 was way cheaper before the update. I think if they don’t fix it a lot of players will quit, I can’t really progress if I can’t upgrade runes. The drop rate of the new dungeons is also garbage.
I think another aspect com2us needs to consider is monster ai. This update was meant to push the creation of new and unique teams but bad ai is a big factor in why some monsters arent being used.
Community : Abyss hard its so difficult also trash drop rates , so we will farm B10 more efficient Com2us : okay, We will release a new update which we will lower the drop rates in B10 to 5-6* blue runes ( 90%) so you all force to farm Abyss
I also noticed the mana, I was at 1.5 billion mana and never noticed it ever go lower. But now I’m down to 1.4 billion and that was the first time I ever seen my mana decrease. Spent over 100 million in like 4 days 😢
Imo seal runes should be a 4 set with a 100% activation of seal on the last hit of an attack. But introduce a cooldown of some sort so it will only proc every 2 or 3 turns. It's stupid to me that the rune set designed to counter rng mechanics has rng built into it.
6:25 man, what a sentence. Dedicating your device to farming for five hours a day is casual. That 0.1% chance of me going back to the game is now 0%, thank you so much for helping me to make up my mind seanb ❤
2 solutions to make abyssal worth it : - Drop in abyssal hard the Blue rune rate to 30%, set Heroic to 60% and Legendary to 10% and it would be absolutely worth it even without speed teams - Make double rewards, like having every run a rune and a another drop similar to a B10. It means you could get rune materials, scrolls, stone... and even a second rune. If you can have a rune every run on abyssal instead of the same rune drop rate than B10 (B12 before) it would be worth it. I mean we all had those 10 runs of B12 with only 2 blue runes and be pissed off. If Abyssal has two rewards per run and one of them being 1 rune obligatorily then it would be wort it too. But I disagree when players tend to say that they should give better drop rates without having to change the speed farming teams. I mean PVE should have that kind of hard boss fight that can give very good rewards but are demanding.
@@warriorofgod2700 just to put the rng and to gain mana I guess. Look at the new notice, they dropping the blue rune rates and increasing the hero/legend rates 😏
Greetings from Com2Us We decided to add abyss dungeon : hell level We looking forward for the excitement for farming more blue runes The maintenance wouldnt take long and as a compentation players are granted with 100 energy
well, if you dissect the word reloaded, it only means loading again, does not really mean improved lol. they wanna reload the game, by removing the clever teams, and make people spend more time rethinking their runes. abyss giant removed dots, abyss dragon can't be tricaru-ed.
That's without considering the energy cost if you do normal auto farm runs. 40 fights in Abyss are 400 energy. For that amount you could do 50 fights in stage 10 😅
What's ironic is that even if they gave everyone 50 or even 100m mana it wouldnt break the game. They will probably give you like 200k for compensation
If Abyss was like Normal was Always either Epic or Legend rune and Hard was Always Legend Rune I could at least excuse it but nah C2U straight up goofed
As i said in a lot of videos, simultaneous farming for at least 2/3 dungeon is the way to go. Since they separate the grinds/gem. Why dont just make players able to farm runes, while farming gem/grinds / and still can still farm artifacts.
This update is in 2 part , I’m really happy about the rune , artifact and monster upgrade. So much faster and no more rune upgrade frustration. But yeah , there new dungeon drop is reallt bad. I got a semi safe team in Giant( 45 sec @ 1 minute) but really safe in dragon(around 1:45 steady) and its only blue rune, this part really suck considering the hardness of the boss.
I haven’t even fucking touched abyss and I won’t ever :) not even for those mystics. And you know they’re going to have intangible rune pack in shop in a week for 50-70-100$
Why do so many people use the triple Inugami Verde combo? I feel like twins are way more effective but perhaps I'm doing something wrong... I'm running magic knight with light,fire,water dancers, and water warrior and I get the dungeons like twice as fast as when I do the triple inugami verde combo.
SeanB I believe we all agree with you my friend. This update was trash. After playing this game for 9yrs,if they don't make some serious changes in next update I'm going to have to say goodbye.
They made the bosses imune to dot, rune upgrade is expensive af, force people who just built dot team grinding again tp build another, so what's the point doing the abyss if they still drop blue? It should be purple minimum
Yeah this update sounded good but in reality it’s garbage. Instant rune upgrade sounds amazing until you realize you have to sacrifice your first born child to cover the cost. The new dungeons I only done them once just for the event rewards. I have no desire to run them anymore. Even the new units are kinda bland just like the units from the last two colabs. I was excited for the update but since it was released I’ve been very disappointed for all of it.
Honestly Sean you right bro I’ve been grinding for like a week or so and I have not gotten one not one legendary rune I got one intangible but it was purple 😢with hp% spd critrate and crdmge
If it works, dont change it. Why not just make a harder dungeon that still works with tricaru with improved drop rates, like no blues or flat stats in slot 2, 4 and 6.
Midgame player with subpar rune quality here, sadly the update affected me in all aspects... 1) Having difficulty with autox10 B10 dungeons. 2) Constantly dealing with depleted resources. 3) Progress seems to be harder now for me with new evolution system too. Started in 2014, no LD Nat5 still😢 Hate to say it but the update kinda ruined things for me...
I might sound bad but i feel c2u dipping toes in reload. They messed up so bad on new mons. (Ie) twins, kaki, oliver, manon, etc that new even u have to farm 10 x10 in each. I think they farming data till end of july to fix. Just ny opinion.
They should have kept b12 and the drops for it the same. Doesn't make sense for them to just take that away from us when we would rarely get usable runes from b12
No worries, Sean I took your suggestion before you gave it. I came back to the Game after 4 years during the assassin creed event but the day this shit reloaded or whatever came out, after trying it for like 6-7 hours, I uninstalled the game. So, I would like to thank SCAM2US wholeheartedly for saving my life.
only farm abyss for the events going on. other than that i do agree that drop rates r super bad and mana is being drained super hard. ive spent 70mil mana already... farming runes to try to get my mana back isnt working out.
OUR FEEDBACK REACHED THEM LETS GOO!
IMO- The only way this dungeon becomes worth it to farm- No Blue Runes, No Flat Stats on Runes that drop
Updated video soon?
@@seanmcelroy6222 YES PlEASE NO FLAT
So whats the news SeanB?
Tbh, I do not feel at all the « change » to the drop they recently made to abyssal. I’m still getting 70-80% rare (blue) useless runes, a lot of flat stat, and useless crafting materials. Abyssal is just not worth it, and honestly, com2us is not worth it either. Just waiting for the black clover game to come out and hopefully switch from this nightmare of a game.
I’m actually impressed with how many ways they got it wrong, surely they’ll have to do a big overhaul update to at least address mana and drop rates
everything they changed was a huge garbage except for artefact.
for all we know this is a trailer to the main update coming soon
@@SeanBGamesthis is the prelude to the end of the world
reminds me of kaki update which they have been HARD avoiding with new units being op but they still managed to mess up this bad!
the screwed this whole pooch, twice. used every hole.
Remember people, make Com2Us pay attention by not spending any money on the game. Dont farm Abyssal and dont top up a cent. That dropping sales revenue chart during their meetings will force them to wake up and make actual changes.
People gotta understand that "talk with your wallet" thing really doesn't work well😅
I really wish it did, cause a lot of games are either greedy with micro transactions or just don't listen to the community. Or both. That's always fun.
com2us wont give a shit about that. the harder the farming.. more income from whale farming. its all business
if only this would really happen.
@@thepotatogod_- it does. It is you who doesn't understand ;). Personally, I'll do exactly that and you should too
@@thepotatogod_- It's the only thing that works actually. If they mess up but people continue spending money on the game they have no incentive to listen to anything cause they are getting paid.
However, if they mess up and suddenly they make let's say half of what they used to they are actually forced to listen to the complaints and try to make the people spend money again by listening to the community and addressing the cause of what made the people spend less money otherwise they'll run into a lot of problems.
Unless they are really trying to make this game die which considering it's their biggest source of income I really doubt.
They really messed up this update
Ngl... Is true... They mess up for real now... The best thing now is the new monster... So much for "we need to fix the basic system"
Lost interest
@@alvingoldfishchinnew monsters are terrible too
@@y0shii154 but... but... I love them... 🥺🥺🥺
Yea definitely. I'm a comeback player that started a few months ago. The evolve system suck balls for us. I can do abyss 1min+ but yea it sucks
Before update:- farming runes
After update:- farming mana
At least now the lore is accurate XD
In other words...farm even more...the c2u special
Yes specially for runes and evolving monster. Haist too costy. Always run out of mana.
I think that the most effected player group are mid game players. They are wanting for mana to upgrade runes, which then hurts their rune farming, which just keeps hurting their mana supply and team quality, and so on. Plus, we don't have LD5 for these crazy speed teams.
Being in the mid game limbo is something u can only break out of with PAYING
The drop rate in abyssal is you could say......... abysmal
Just like SeanB said, drop rates for abyssal is horrendous at least seeing that abyss run times are basically double the B10 times for couple percent chance at intangible runes. Best thing to do until com2us devs do something about this is to literally farm artis or the new spritiual realm for a couple of seal sets.
I can do Abyss Normal in 16 seconds, haven't tried hard but got 1:08 in hard mode. Even if the fastest I could get was 48-50 seconds, that is triple the time for one run.
The rune upgrade cost is what really pisses me off about this update.
Upgrading from 12 to 15 was pretty expensive but 1 to 12 was way cheaper before the update.
I think if they don’t fix it a lot of players will quit, I can’t really progress if I can’t upgrade runes.
The drop rate of the new dungeons is also garbage.
I think another aspect com2us needs to consider is monster ai. This update was meant to push the creation of new and unique teams but bad ai is a big factor in why some monsters arent being used.
Raids AI is waaaaay better. No excuse here, I agree.
What I don't understand is why now to evolve a three-star monster you need 5 angelmon.
Game is reloaded to 2014, the time when everything was difficult, expensive, and slow 😂
The drops were much better though. You could basically farm GB for all the good stuff and could vio proc up to 8-9 times lol
Honestly this big update was 2 steps forward and 4 steps backwards. They really fucked things up in a lot of ways.
Community : Abyss hard its so difficult also trash drop rates , so we will farm B10 more efficient
Com2us : okay, We will release a new update which we will lower the drop rates in B10 to 5-6* blue runes ( 90%) so you all force to farm Abyss
Then we just quite playing there game.
Stop spoiling the overloaded update…
@@stephenwillis744 what?
I prefer they keep the difficulty of the abyss, just need them increase the drop rate of the rune
I quit about a year or more ago now and it's still funny to see com2us mess up the most basic things still. Glad I stopped when I did
I also noticed the mana, I was at 1.5 billion mana and never noticed it ever go lower. But now I’m down to 1.4 billion and that was the first time I ever seen my mana decrease. Spent over 100 million in like 4 days 😢
I went from 5 mil to 2 mill because the art change I just started selling every art after 3 trys of conversion its so sad
Lol same man I went from 50m+ to 8, jeez man. I'm so broke now
Imo seal runes should be a 4 set with a 100% activation of seal on the last hit of an attack. But introduce a cooldown of some sort so it will only proc every 2 or 3 turns. It's stupid to me that the rune set designed to counter rng mechanics has rng built into it.
6:25 man, what a sentence. Dedicating your device to farming for five hours a day is casual. That 0.1% chance of me going back to the game is now 0%, thank you so much for helping me to make up my mind seanb ❤
They should make it so a rune always drops every run and the other things come on the side once in a while, no blue runes, and no flat runes.
they put out a notice that they are increasing rates and lowering energy cost to 9
read update notices, but they are increasing purple runes over rare runes and reducing energy cost to 9 also mana cost of everything adjusted
congrats they put out a notice saying they are foing to up the rewards in abyss dungeon...lets see how much they increase the rate
2 solutions to make abyssal worth it :
- Drop in abyssal hard the Blue rune rate to 30%, set Heroic to 60% and Legendary to 10% and it would be absolutely worth it even without speed teams
- Make double rewards, like having every run a rune and a another drop similar to a B10. It means you could get rune materials, scrolls, stone... and even a second rune.
If you can have a rune every run on abyssal instead of the same rune drop rate than B10 (B12 before) it would be worth it. I mean we all had those 10 runs of B12 with only 2 blue runes and be pissed off. If Abyssal has two rewards per run and one of them being 1 rune obligatorily then it would be wort it too.
But I disagree when players tend to say that they should give better drop rates without having to change the speed farming teams. I mean PVE should have that kind of hard boss fight that can give very good rewards but are demanding.
I did the 50/50 for the quest and immediately stopped doing abyss giants.
Rare (blue) runes should be removed in Abyss Hard & double the number of crafting materials.
Shouldn't be remove tho.
Just dropping the blue runes rates.
@ArindraMeidyPratama what exactly is the purpose of blue runes come abyss dungeons? No one running those dungeons are using blue runes anyways
@@warriorofgod2700 just to put the rng and to gain mana I guess.
Look at the new notice, they dropping the blue rune rates and increasing the hero/legend rates 😏
@ArindraMeidyPratama I saw that. As for the mana farming, most of the runes are still gonna be crap anyways, so removing blue won't change much
@@warriorofgod2700 com2us literally want us to farm for the next 5 years 😂
I only did enough of the Abysmal dungeons to satisfy the events and went to the B10 dungeons.
The only way this dungeon becomes worth it to farm- No Blue Runes, No Flat Stats on Runes that drop.
deborah - checked
lucifer - checked
insane runes - hum
Ah, Farming Wars.. What a great game!! Great job Com2Us 🎉🎉🎉
that temple of wishes hit hard because yesterday was my 1st time hitting in like 3 yrs of playing and it was a water serpent 😂
cum2us should change the continouse dmg sleep interaction back. my celia now wakes up the dmg with her dots
Greetings from Com2Us
We decided to add abyss dungeon : hell level
We looking forward for the excitement for farming more blue runes
The maintenance wouldnt take long and as a compentation players are granted with 100 energy
Don’t forget the new update pack they’d roll out with that too lmao
Wow, they actually listened to us about everything and theyre moving things in the right direction o: look at the notices :D
If they are gonna drop blue runes, they can at least remove flat main stats on 2,4,6.
I hate how expensive the rune powerups are and drop rates.
well, if you dissect the word reloaded, it only means loading again, does not really mean improved lol. they wanna reload the game, by removing the clever teams, and make people spend more time rethinking their runes. abyss giant removed dots, abyss dragon can't be tricaru-ed.
That's without considering the energy cost if you do normal auto farm runs.
40 fights in Abyss are 400 energy. For that amount you could do 50 fights in stage 10 😅
I just build my tricaru this last few days and its great. I improve my account a lot❤
im just so upset with the new evolve system, i do not like it at all
What's ironic is that even if they gave everyone 50 or even 100m mana it wouldnt break the game. They will probably give you like 200k for compensation
Yes. I ran through the 100 for the timed event and am happy seeing my dots slap giants and Vicaru pounce.
Facts Sean they just making more ppl quiet the game....and summoning is still depressing...
i had 50+ mil mana before the update, ive been farming while upgrading and runing monsters, now im at 10m after like 2-3 days
I dunno if this is just me, but my enchanted gem drop had been all blue/rare grades from rift dungeon, what the heck happened here??
Even if you have a farmable team the drop rate sucks.
gonna farm the new dungeon for determination runes to build tricaru, glad to see its still relevant team haha
They should rename intangible to unobtanium runes.
Everytime my daughter brings a guy to the house. "Honey that's blue".
Thank you Sean. We love u for voicing up our sorrow. Im this close to uninstalling the game after the reloaded update.
Thanks for hitting all of these issues, they were very easily noticeable even day one
I totally agree with everything you said!
I did 100 runs each for event and im chilling in b10 now
If Abyss was like Normal was Always either Epic or Legend rune and Hard was Always Legend Rune I could at least excuse it but nah C2U straight up goofed
yep, they messed up the mana.
I wasted 50mil in the last 3 days
now inflation also happened in the game
💀
They just confirmed that they will be making improvements about the abyss dungeons in the notice
I dont know what to think about it. I love the game, but i dont know. greating SeanB
This video is spitting out facts, already sharing it with a lot of people.
Damn, that ending kinda hits right in the feels🥲
As i said in a lot of videos, simultaneous farming for at least 2/3 dungeon is the way to go. Since they separate the grinds/gem. Why dont just make players able to farm runes, while farming gem/grinds / and still can still farm artifacts.
This update is in 2 part , I’m really happy about the rune , artifact and monster upgrade. So much faster and no more rune upgrade frustration. But yeah , there new dungeon drop is reallt bad. I got a semi safe team in Giant( 45 sec @ 1 minute) but really safe in dragon(around 1:45 steady) and its only blue rune, this part really suck considering the hardness of the boss.
Yeah the mana cost is WAY too high right now. Love the video Sean, Summoners war... not so much
The only thing the reloaded patch tried to do was reload Com2us' wallet.
I haven’t even fucking touched abyss and I won’t ever :) not even for those mystics. And you know they’re going to have intangible rune pack in shop in a week for 50-70-100$
I do recommend doing the 50 runs event only. Then go back to b10 is just more worth it for now. c2u is just messing up with us right now.
I'm only farming abyss for event. I refuse to lvl up units until they get the pwr up stuff fixed. It took 3mil mana to 6* 1 unit from 4*
Another mess up. I knew it when they released the patch notes. I had a bad feeling about it.
Why do so many people use the triple Inugami Verde combo? I feel like twins are way more effective but perhaps I'm doing something wrong... I'm running magic knight with light,fire,water dancers, and water warrior and I get the dungeons like twice as fast as when I do the triple inugami verde combo.
Are twins farmeable? No. People use what's available.
That "intangible" name was not given to that rune for nothing. The more we farm Abyss floor, the more we realise it...🤣
I was wondering what to do with my 410M. Finally, something to spend it on
SeanB I believe we all agree with you my friend. This update was trash. After playing this game for 9yrs,if they don't make some serious changes in next update I'm going to have to say goodbye.
Thanks for making this video
I’ve used about 70m mana upgrading runes since the update came out. Would never even be that close before the update lol.
Yes. Well said. Idk if I'll come back to the game with the update
Your channel and this update have save my SW account
Thank you sean. Hopefully we make enough noise and let com2us know how shitty this update is so they will make some changes
com2us: "remove the stressful part and retain the fun"...what a bullshit and shitshow
They'll address it maybe next patch.. for now im focusing SR for 4 stars gift event only, though SR drop are equally trash as well...
They made the bosses imune to dot, rune upgrade is expensive af, force people who just built dot team grinding again tp build another, so what's the point doing the abyss if they still drop blue? It should be purple minimum
next update: SW Deloaded
Yeah this update sounded good but in reality it’s garbage. Instant rune upgrade sounds amazing until you realize you have to sacrifice your first born child to cover the cost. The new dungeons I only done them once just for the event rewards. I have no desire to run them anymore. Even the new units are kinda bland just like the units from the last two colabs. I was excited for the update but since it was released I’ve been very disappointed for all of it.
Honestly Sean you right bro I’ve been grinding for like a week or so and I have not gotten one not one legendary rune I got one intangible but it was purple 😢with hp% spd critrate and crdmge
If it works, dont change it. Why not just make a harder dungeon that still works with tricaru with improved drop rates, like no blues or flat stats in slot 2, 4 and 6.
Midgame player with subpar rune quality here, sadly the update affected me in all aspects...
1) Having difficulty with autox10 B10 dungeons.
2) Constantly dealing with depleted resources.
3) Progress seems to be harder now for me with new evolution system too.
Started in 2014, no LD Nat5 still😢
Hate to say it but the update kinda ruined things for me...
I might sound bad but i feel c2u dipping toes in reload. They messed up so bad on new mons. (Ie) twins, kaki, oliver, manon, etc that new even u have to farm 10 x10 in each. I think they farming data till end of july to fix. Just ny opinion.
They for real added inflation in this update
Funny enough com2us screwed me before making runes cost 3-5 million to power up so I have been gaining mana thanks to this update.
Com2us: "Drop rate will stay the same. take it or leave it suckers!"
The mana increase is so bad for new players / casuals which is a majority of the player base
They should have kept b12 and the drops for it the same. Doesn't make sense for them to just take that away from us when we would rarely get usable runes from b12
Me being that guy with a billion mana: expensive? Naaah, all good
Man I felt that at the end.
What’s the situation now what’s better to farm gb10 or gb12 ? Thanks
"mby ur a casual gamer farming 5 hous a day..." jeeez Sean 💁♂
Right?? I farm 5-6 hours because I'm on vacation and somehow that makes me a casual gamer?? It's a phone game, not s full time job lol
No worries, Sean I took your suggestion before you gave it. I came back to the Game after 4 years during the assassin creed event but the day this shit reloaded or whatever came out, after trying it for like 6-7 hours, I uninstalled the game. So, I would like to thank SCAM2US wholeheartedly for saving my life.
I will explain. F2p doesn't think of faster farm. It's energy efficiency. Need to farm safe and better chance
Overhaul update Com2us!
Yes, there is a mistake in the cells because it has become more
Maybe they wanted us to use those grinds/gems for artifacts insead just rolling it with mana
only farm abyss for the events going on. other than that i do agree that drop rates r super bad and mana is being drained super hard. ive spent 70mil mana already... farming runes to try to get my mana back isnt working out.