DO NOT USE DRY ICE!!! When it dissipates, it will fill the room or vehicle with CO2 which will displace the oxygen causing you to suffocate, pass out and possibly DIE!!!
@@gibster9624 But if you're making your own ice, you're just making more heat from the fridge motor and the cooler motor. The energy extracted from the water in the freezer is dumped into your house which you then use the ice to cool which nets nothing.
Wow, dude. You definitely started a trend with this. If you follow the link you provided to the marine blower, the "frequently bought together" shows the blower, the cigarette lighter chord, and the metal shelf! Nice job! This is an absolute genius idea. I will definitely be running out to build a couple of these, One for our kids room, and one for our room, and will probably bring it with us for long drives FOR SURE! Thank you for this, man!!!!
I have a 26ft pilothouse boat that I really didn’t want to put a permanent AC in for just summer month usage. This is perfect. Portable. Light weight. I will try the half frozen bottles half ice trick and see what’s the difference. Thank you for making this video!
Sir... your idea is ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!!!... The key to your idea is the one way blower fan... I've created my own variance of your idea but you using the one way blower fan is the KEY. Thank you soooooooo much😊
This design also seems to solve the leaking problem some people have with similar designs, where they put the blower down lower, and as the ice melts, they have leaks. This seems to not be the case here, which I like. Also looks quite easy to make and use.
A better design for this would have a 'closed' system - i.e. have a sealed aluminium duct that flows UNDER the ice at the bottom of the cooler (couple of those type projects on here) - that way you aren't pulling the hot air directly through the ice itself, so not only will it reduce the amount of moisture it's putting in the air, also the ice would last a bit longer - and you could use cooler blocks / frozen salt water bottles aswel as bagged ice
that's what I did. Also the 130 cfm fan, not 300. Also having the aluminum tube under the water/ice, without the air coming in contact with the water/ice....thus NOT a swamp cooler. (no additional moisture.
Great video and design. I would like to see a follow up video with the outside temperature, ambient room temperature readings before during and after, temperature readings of the intake air, temperature readings of the out put air, volume of ice used and total running time before the air until the output air reaches 60 degrees F. These readings should answer the majority of the legitimate questions here in the comments. Thanks for the build and the video. Keep up the great work. D. (Edit). Also the readings of the unit before ice is added. The control readings to show its performance.
Muster Gwarfield what people don’t realize about air-conditioners especially “portable“ air-conditioners is that they are incredibly inefficient. Any efficient window air conditioner has all of the parts that create heat sitting outside the window while only the fan is inside the room. But a portable air conditioner has to contain all of the heat generating elements inside the unit itself so we have to depend on hoses sometimes for intake and exhaust. I have seen a few “ductless“ portable air conditioners but I don’t understand much about how those work and if they are efficient or not. I have one portable Solisair air conditioner that I got for $50 from a guy who was moving back up to Oregon, it has served me well but it still causes my electric bill to jump up to about $400 a month in the summer months which is just fucking crazy even with level pay. But I discovered that if I leave a couple of windows open a crack this gives the portable air conditioner new air to work with. My window unit doesn’t need the fresh air, because the heat transfer is taking place outside of my house and so all I get from the fan is the cold air. But you do realize that this gentleman created this unit specifically to use with his vehicle, I suppose if he were to use not dry ice but blue ice packs or gel packs it might last a little bit longer than ice. I’ve got several medical gel packs that stay cold for days because they were used to ship medication to me, those might make this design a little bit more efficient. But I’m just wondering how efficient this design will be to use in a room say, about 20‘ x 20‘?
Social Spit This gentleman has a cargo trailer that he converted into an RV. It is an 8x16 Trailer. After the rear kitchen area and front bathroom are put in, the living space appears to be about 8x10. The hight seems to be only about 7 feet making this space slightly smaller in cubic feet than an 8x9 room in a house. This is the area that this cooler is designed to be used in on weekend excursions. Ice packs may last longer. However, with the reduced surface area of the ice packs, the output temperatures may not be as cold as those shown in the video. The ice melts and the water in the bottom creates more surface are for the air to flow over. This may not make much difference as he mentions using ice in the bottom of his previous build in the video. But, it may add to the overall cooling of the output air. D.
Instead, use one semi-rigid duct from intake to exhaust and coil it in between. Pack ice around the coiled duct. Place the blower motor in the exhaust or blow it through, it's the same effect. This way, there is no direct airflow on the ice (which would melt it super quickly), the ice would make use of the cooler insulation (makes it last longer), there would be limited condensation/moisture that hinders/hampers your blower, and your airflow would only use inline indirectly cooled air from the duct walls. It's simplest and best.
I made a really large one very similar to the one shown here to store the bodies in. I need to finish the one that I've recently been working on and soon!
You would be better off reversing the fan direction and pulling the air through the cooler. This will cause a low pressure in the box which in fact actually promotes temperature drop. Plus it creates negative pressure in the box and that makes a better seal of the container itself.
Instead of blowing air in? Let the fan blow it out? Got it👍😎 Air being forced in? Goes over the ice. Then is forced out to cool the outside air. As long as you have air flow going out of the room too. Crack a window open. Sounds a lot better! 😜
Very well done ! great video too. Short and directly to the key details. I made something along these lines several years ago with acceptable results, but your idea about directing the air below the ice is truly innovative with minimal additional $'s and time. Thank you !!
You, sir, are an innovator! I love your idea, I have made a blower box that doesn’t get as cold but allows for the ice to last longer by using 2 transmission oil coolers to cool the air going in the box and the air going out of the box. The box is connected to an ice chest via insulated tubing that has a pump pumping water from the ice chest to the coolers in the blower box. I use a turbo fan at the exit point. The temp has gotten to the mid 40s, it’s just a proto type.
If you wanted to power this off a standard 120v outlet, while tent camping use a laptop power supply. If you don’t already have one they are cheep at a place like goodwill. You could also get really fancy and wire in a 12v dimmer switch to control the fan speed.
That's pretty smart. And with 200+ cfm's being pushed through a 6 inch pipe the velocity or throw would be outstanding for rapid cooling of an area space while under load. A simple cooler turned into this is freaking awesome lol
Blowing under the ice is a great idea. One suggestion is a cap for inlet and outlet when transferring it when not in use. Adding a filter at the inlet would also keep bugs n debris from being sucked in.
Very cool build! You could increase the air diffusion by extending a duct or hose going across the bottom with a series of smaller holes to evenly distribute the air under the ice. Perhaps even a tight mesh could even work? Now I wanna build one!
Air conditioning requires dehumidification. This not an air conditioner. This is a humidifier. You are very creative and very intelligent. Your design skills are impressive. The quality of your video was also excellent. Thank you for posting.
Average air conditioners are basically plain air coolers. The dehumidifying effect comes along with the cooling effect provided that air at lower temperatures have lower relative humidity. As the air flows through your AC unit it gets rid of part of the water just because it looses the power to carry water vapour and this is due to energy loss as overall temperature drops. So, yeah, this thing is kind of an air conditioner.
Alexis Marcané this is not in any way like an air conditioner!!! AC removes moisture causing temp to drop. This adds moisture that will cause mold to grow and stink up the car.
What do you do about the water build up in the bottom once the ice melts? Wouldn't the blower fan splash the water back up into the pipe or the water reach the pipe as the ice melts?
I built one about 15 years ago, still have it. I use gallon freezer bags filled with infant baby diaper filling, soaked with water and frozen hard. My air source is a bathroom vent fan on the lid. An on of switch is also mounted on the top. I have a 6 ft. cord to plug it in. My exhaust is a dryer vent exhaust. These are not new. A lot of great improvements shown here, though!
There is one thing to remember. As you run the air over the ice, it is picking up moisture, thus adding humidity to the air making it just s bad. if you have one, run a dehumidifier. this will also help You need to run the fresh air though a tube then fill cooler with a small amount of water, add the ice, so it is over the tube . by adding the water helps to transfer the temp of the ice into the dry tube. use 2 inch PVC pipe. run the 2-3 in parallel (using some Ts and elbows). Intake, start with a larger diameter pipe, then use a reducer down to the 2 inch pipe. Output end with a larger diameter pipe. If you keep pumping humid air into your house you could start having mold problems. It's all basic thermodynamics.
Dehumidifier would end up adding heat since it works by condensation. This would have a latent heat effect, but in reverse since condensation is the reverse of evaporation which has a latent cooling effect. Not to mention the electricity used eventually just turns into heat anyway. (A dehumidifier is actually an efficient source of winter heat if you live in a mild/chilly, damp climate, or in spring/fall when you’re experiencing rainy 50F weather) Also, a dehumidifier is basically an air conditioner that doesn’t exhaust the heat outside, it simply recirculates it in the room. You’re better off just using A/C.
Before anyone contemplates actually doing something like this, I suggest considering how much heat energy can be removed by the ice that will fit in the cooler (less the space used for the air passages). When you put plain water ice in a cooler, it rises to the melting point very quickly, after which it takes only 144 Btu of heat to melt one pound of ice ("Latent heat of fusion"), and about another 30-35 Btu to raise the temperature of that water to where it won't provide any sensible cooling (other than evaporative cooling, which isn't effective in humid weather). So the best you're going to get is about 175-180 Btu per pound of water. How many pounds of ice fit in the modified cooler shown in this video? The cost and weight of this setup make it impractical, especially if you have to buy the ice and/or you have to carry all that weight any distance.
You're using the same machine that's constantly keeping heat dissipated, when it gets down to a certain temperature, the energy requirement goes down, but yes you're still technically correct, the issue is are you routing the heat out of the house, is the freezer keeping things cold to the point it only kicks on to disperse enough heat to keep things where they're at, is the internal insulation thick and well designed enough? There are a multitude of variables to consider here, but if you're using this to cool another room, you will get a measurable difference in the room you want to work on.
I use a 1040 cfm 8 inch computer fan. It last longer on the 12v battery. I use a 12v that is meant for a security backup. I run a dryer hose around the perimeter of the ten with hole cut out at 1 foot intervals, or so. Feels like central ac. My tent was 69 degrees on a hot florida day that was 98 on the outside. I spent 20ish dollars. Most expensive was the battery but I wanted as beefy battery as I could use and it still being practical.
Thank you for all your hard work, efforts and research and putting a practical, economical working unit literally into our hands. There are lots of ppl that now live in vehicles that don’t have to suffer and have relief. Those that use theoretical criticisms and condemn the efforts without actually building something should move out of the way for those that build something and at least make an effort. Textbook knowledge of btu’s and thermodynamics can be whatever they are but laws and outcomes changes when motions are made and adjustments are also made. It’s one thing to be stagnant in knowledge and another in real time applications. Your project here given to the world here was created in your head, constructed with your hands and perfected with your heart, thanks for being a doer…
,funny I was just thinking about how I have that same blower and a DC speed controller already wired up to it I was gonna use for something else but didn't. Now I know what I'm using it for.
Great idea. What kind of humidity does it produce though? I personally do not like tools rusting and electronics shorting out between the dust and humidity. The dust holds the moisture and causes issues.
Very cool version! I think if I did one, it would have both ducts through the lid, or, would simply fit the intake fan through the back end of the box, to avoid having bulky ducts stick out on 2 sides. Using dry ice is costly, but more effective at chilling. Water ice ends up humidifying the cooled space, & having to dump the meltwater periodically. Using a cooler with at least double the wall thickness, preserves ice for several hours, so you could commute to work & back home on the same load of ice...but only if the box & ducts are far better insulated. Refreezable ice packs is another possible.
I was thinking that too I think that if they would have that same cooler out of expensive yeti or something like that with thicker walls but I find it would be really hard be cutting and drilling holes into the expensive cooler like that.
Would be interesting if you could run ducting back and forth inside cooler to form a heat exchanger and use ice & rock salt. A salt bath can reach 0°F. So in theory your discharge air could be significantly colder. Plus you would get cooling the melted ice bath versus just blowing through the ice while it’s frozen
@@kathleenfoster8552 - good luck with your attempt. The short coming of ice based system is keeping the ice/water cold. Ever though about evaporative cooling?
Thanks for a great idea. I used mine Friday and it cools my pickup. No, it isn't economical. This uses a lot of ice. It is getting me by until I get my new AC system and put it in. I thought frozen bottles of water would work but you need ice. The ice blocks around the intake tube where it goes into the lath and forces the cooling air to circulate. The idea of having the intake tube on the side and angled down recirculates the cooler air better. That is, you are cooling cooler air and the intake and exit aren't competing. Everything about this design is great. My only disappointment is I didn't get a cooler with a drain plug. You can get the adjustable elbows a lot cheaper at home depot, but they don't pivot as easily.
Max Well 8i made one of these last year man it worked for very small areas i basiclly had to have it right next to where i sat and i was literally freezing my own ice the doesnt last that long
Fantastic design , although I would suggest that you put the fan on the exit rather than the entrance , fans work far more efficiently sucking than pushing . But then again you might not want greater airflow . Again great .job well done
Hi, what if instead of the metal shelf, and the mesh, use bottled ice, as the bottom layer, with bagged ice on top? Makes for super easy cleaning as well
I don’t even know how I ended up on this video, but that thing is badass! You should totally improve upon that design and take it to either the market, kickstarter or shark tank. You got a winner here.
The intake is sucking in hot air, (for this example lets say from the north) and the out duct is blowing out cold air (to the north), so you have created a cycle of air that is just blowing the already cooled air back into the intake to be cooled again, this won't make the air get colder and colder at an efficient rate, instead at best it will just keep your ice slightly colder for longer lol, you want your cooling duct to be blowing (south)....away from the intake so it can fill the room/car with cold air. Ideally, the intake should be as high up as possible so it is sucking in the already risen hot air and your cold output duct as low as possible so you don't end up with a useless cycle of air as already mentioned. One better would be to have one more duct and fan on it's own, set it high up in the room/car so it's sucking the hot air from high up and pumping it out of a window, i would make sure the inline fan was positioned outside though so the extra motor doesn't add heat to the room/car, this is the reason air cons are so effective because they suck out the hot air of the room which makes any cold air you put in way more effective.
I’m very interested in your project , the temps are excellent , would like to ask if you wanted to increase the time of usable ice can it be managed through frozen water bottles . If this gives you longer run times . Delivery drivers would benefit through a cool drink on the road .
What about connecting a small solar panel to a marine battery and hook up the blower to it and add a switch to turn it on/off? And put the cooler and battery on a small cart wheels?
Hi very nice and you took the time to build one Great what would happen if you had fan sucking from on top and on the side an inlet tube that brances off on top of the ice and under the ice the leingth of the cooler it would be sealed at the ends but with enough holes 1 " along the run to let the fan suck correctly Im thinking the longer the hot air is in the cold cooler the colder the air comming out also how well would you expirment work if you used like enough ice packs to seal the the top shielf ?? thanks
Currently building two of these in Australia, thank you for the info. To run off solar the wattage is amazing. And I only use the freezer I'm currently using anyway :)
Did you ever finish it? I live in Australia as well, but I worry that something like this will increase the humidity which is pretty bad already near the coast.
@@Xanthopteryx it depends on where they live. If your rockn a swap cooler then open ice. If your in a dry climate using this method in conjunction with your central AC then enclosed frozen water. I'm not going into why. Google it.
Get a camper shell on a truck and plum through the back glass from the seat and survive the summer in your truck rent free. Basicaly 2-4 bucks a day or night depending on how long it last
I've seen 10 hours of cooling time at 21° f. And what impresses me is insulation inside of cooler at 1 1/2" thick separates the ice from the residual air therefore reducing warm air melting the ice. It has an oil cooler radiator that pump freezing water blown by an Ryobi 18v fan and a DC pump powered by a Ryobi 18v inverter. How long does yours last?
Best to use frozen bottles of sea water, as salt water freezes at a lower temperature - around 28 degrees Fahrenheit so even colder. Yes your home freezer will freeze salt water fine - but obviously if on a road trip, as soon as they have melted it's back to stopping off at a store & using normal ice bags
You use salted ice and pack them in medium size glass mason jars and stack that onto the grate for much cooler temperatures. It'll lower the temperature of the ice from 32*F to 0*F . It's also less messy too :P
@@TreyPerryWx That's why I said medium sized, enough to double stack. Also since the jars will allow for 0*F temperature instead of 32*F, the loss in surface area will not be sufficient to prevent further cooling.
kyzercube, I know you can get the temperature of water down low when you add salt in solution mixed with ice. I'll have to try your suggestion of salting the ice. I don't care about the mess of melted ice.....it's a cooler with a drain plug. I'm not buying what you said about the exposed surface area of ice not making a difference. Crushed ice cools liquids faster because there is more area and over time that means colder faster. Mason jars are a hassle. The lids will begin rusting over time and that isn't good. The risk of breakage would be an unneeded burden. The set up as shown in the video is rugged and simple.
20-30 minutes at 89° when the ice melts you'll have less cool air as the air bounces off the ice water instead of flowing through the ice. Unless you add a drain to get the water out.
I made one, exactly with the parts he listed. it works but prepared to have a truck load of ice. I stuffed mine as full as I could with ice, and with a outside temp of 85, after 1 hour all the ice was gone. I froze 23 water bottles and used them, and they lasted about 2 1/2 hours before they were all melted. If I had known that information, I would not have even wasted my time or money.
Honestly, what did you think would happen? I’m not trying to be mean but you’re sucking in hot air and moving it across the ice before blowing it back out. It makes sense that the hot air moving across the ice would quickly melt it....which is what hot air usually does with ice..... again, I’m not trying to be mean, but I think you should have reasonable expectations about the projects you invest your time and money into. Spend a little more time in the research and development stage (specifically the research stage) before spending money and finding out the project won’t work for your needs. If I built this it would be intended to run 1-2 cycles (a cycle being the time it takes to melt all the ice) during the hottest parts of the day, then I would switch to smaller usb or battery operated fans once I ran out of ice. I also use a Berkey water filtration system so I can filter the melted ice and use it for drinking water. Anyways, you should sell yours on Craigslist or something. If you put time and effort into the build someone else will surely be happy to take it off your hands. 😆
@@foxmulder216 Dry ice should not be melted (sublimated) in an enclosed unventilated space. You'll gas up your air with CO2, which is bad for breathing.
@@thelifeofjools8384 actually, it would work for a small aircraft owner. To be able to cool a flight down would be awesome for some without a/c. Probably more efficient to use a smaller duct and fan. But to get 2 hours of cooled air would be heaven. No problem with the weight and balance if the back seat is open. We can always get ice. I'm just saying....
Dyi on Amazon as of today is around 120 ish for this build. I work in an office at a warehouse average temperature is 90+ with No AC so this is looking nice. Just need to convince my boss to get an ice machine and a scooper. 😂
Probably because metals take hot and cold really well. The metal helps with keeping the air cold rather PVC takes a while. I would probably use pvc just for its longevity compared to metals.
This would be a great project for non-profits to make for the elderly who can't afford AC in the summer heat or after a power failure. It would take dedicated people who would stay in touch providing ice to the people to keep it running. You would need a solar panel or a battery to keep it running.
I'm thinking this will be good when we loose power for several days after a hurricane. How would you power it up for use in a home? I've seen one on youtube where he used a solar panel and a battery. How would you do it?
All of your questions are answered here: ua-cam.com/video/H4LutVTqsUU/v-deo.html
How much would you sell this for ?
Copper tubing i think would work better.
Seal up the gores.
If I use this cooler directly into a computer case, will it cause condensation? Is there a way to mitigate condensation to help cool a desktop PC?
All you did was copy TKOR you clown
DO NOT USE DRY ICE!!! When it dissipates, it will fill the room or vehicle with CO2 which will displace the oxygen causing you to suffocate, pass out and possibly DIE!!!
make & do lol handy tip that one . Haaaaa cheers .
I can't imagine the ice would stay ice long enough to do much
make & do Thank you... I’ve never used dried ice before... I doubt I would . 🕉 namaste
lol
if you use dry ice for this, you are one stupid ass
Fill it with frozen water bottles the ice lasts longer and u have something cold to drink
That's what I was think. Bags of ice would just be a lot of money to spend
Ernie Villa:You done made me thirsty
Thanks mate. Good idea.
You are living in 2046 sir 🍻
@@gibster9624 But if you're making your own ice, you're just making more heat from the fridge motor and the cooler motor. The energy extracted from the water in the freezer is dumped into your house which you then use the ice to cool which nets nothing.
Wow, dude. You definitely started a trend with this. If you follow the link you provided to the marine blower, the "frequently bought together" shows the blower, the cigarette lighter chord, and the metal shelf! Nice job!
This is an absolute genius idea. I will definitely be running out to build a couple of these, One for our kids room, and one for our room, and will probably bring it with us for long drives FOR SURE! Thank you for this, man!!!!
I have a 26ft pilothouse boat that I really didn’t want to put a permanent AC in for just summer month usage. This is perfect. Portable. Light weight. I will try the half frozen bottles half ice trick and see what’s the difference. Thank you for making this video!
Sir... your idea is ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!!!... The key to your idea is the one way blower fan... I've created my own variance of your idea but you using the one way blower fan is the KEY. Thank you soooooooo much😊
Much better idea and more practical than an old refrigerator radiator!! Good idea!! Redirecting the air under the ice makes all the difference.
That's the best one yet! I've been making these type of things for years and that really is an awesome design
Running duct hose and packing ice around it work better ??
This design also seems to solve the leaking problem some people have with similar designs, where they put the blower down lower, and as the ice melts, they have leaks. This seems to not be the case here, which I like. Also looks quite easy to make and use.
Thanks!
Nice to see someone who understands how much of a difference that airpocket on top of the ice makes.
I don't understand why there are so many thumbs down on this. It's a great idea and a simple project. Doesn't make sense to dislike the content.
Yes,
What marine 120v motor for the home would be good?
@@iammaximus614 you could use a 12V wall wart power supply that you plug into the wall. Similar to a laptop cord but 12V output. Not hard to find.
@Kevin Anderson I enjoy central air at my home, too. But when I'm on the lake in my boat, this device could be a pretty sweet way to stay cool.
A better design for this would have a 'closed' system - i.e. have a sealed aluminium duct that flows UNDER the ice at the bottom of the cooler (couple of those type projects on here) - that way you aren't pulling the hot air directly through the ice itself, so not only will it reduce the amount of moisture it's putting in the air, also the ice would last a bit longer - and you could use cooler blocks / frozen salt water bottles aswel as bagged ice
that's what I did. Also the 130 cfm fan, not 300. Also having the aluminum tube under the water/ice, without the air coming in contact with the water/ice....thus NOT a swamp cooler. (no additional moisture.
Great video and design. I would like to see a follow up video with the outside temperature, ambient room temperature readings before during and after, temperature readings of the intake air, temperature readings of the out put air, volume of ice used and total running time before the air until the output air reaches 60 degrees F.
These readings should answer the majority of the legitimate questions here in the comments.
Thanks for the build and the video. Keep up the great work.
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(Edit). Also the readings of the unit before ice is added. The control readings to show its performance.
Exactly my questions. Basically how long will it run in a warm room
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Muster Gwarfield My freezer is already freezing.
Cost me nothing to freeze jugs of water, genius.
Muster Gwarfield what people don’t realize about air-conditioners especially “portable“ air-conditioners is that they are incredibly inefficient. Any efficient window air conditioner has all of the parts that create heat sitting outside the window while only the fan is inside the room. But a portable air conditioner has to contain all of the heat generating elements inside the unit itself so we have to depend on hoses sometimes for intake and exhaust. I have seen a few “ductless“ portable air conditioners but I don’t understand much about how those work and if they are efficient or not. I have one portable Solisair air conditioner that I got for $50 from a guy who was moving back up to Oregon, it has served me well but it still causes my electric bill to jump up to about $400 a month in the summer months which is just fucking crazy even with level pay. But I discovered that if I leave a couple of windows open a crack this gives the portable air conditioner new air to work with. My window unit doesn’t need the fresh air, because the heat transfer is taking place outside of my house and so all I get from the fan is the cold air.
But you do realize that this gentleman created this unit specifically to use with his vehicle, I suppose if he were to use not dry ice but blue ice packs or gel packs it might last a little bit longer than ice. I’ve got several medical gel packs that stay cold for days because they were used to ship medication to me, those might make this design a little bit more efficient. But I’m just wondering how efficient this design will be to use in a room say, about 20‘ x 20‘?
Social Spit This gentleman has a cargo trailer that he converted into an RV. It is an 8x16 Trailer. After the rear kitchen area and front bathroom are put in, the living space appears to be about 8x10. The hight seems to be only about 7 feet making this space slightly smaller in cubic feet than an 8x9 room in a house. This is the area that this cooler is designed to be used in on weekend excursions.
Ice packs may last longer. However, with the reduced surface area of the ice packs, the output temperatures may not be as cold as those shown in the video. The ice melts and the water in the bottom creates more surface are for the air to flow over. This may not make much difference as he mentions using ice in the bottom of his previous build in the video. But, it may add to the overall cooling of the output air.
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Best i've ever seen on youtube. The most efficient by far
Thank you for the video. Very interesting. I guess this is good for hot dry climates, but not for hot humid conditions.
Thanks! I can't wait to make one for myself. I'll be heading to the mountains soon and this baby will be a dream come true!
Instead, use one semi-rigid duct from intake to exhaust and coil it in between. Pack ice around the coiled duct. Place the blower motor in the exhaust or blow it through, it's the same effect. This way, there is no direct airflow on the ice (which would melt it super quickly), the ice would make use of the cooler insulation (makes it last longer), there would be limited condensation/moisture that hinders/hampers your blower, and your airflow would only use inline indirectly cooled air from the duct walls. It's simplest and best.
My buddy just explained to me wut ur saying here so that I could visualize it, and yeah, this is a much more effective idea
Just cut holes in the insulated bag only where necessary for best insulating effect.
You smart AF bro. HVAC INSTALLER here and I didnt even think of that.
Thanks for this suggestion, I'm probably going to implement. Can you confirm the temperature will drop down to the same amount?
Can you please draw me a picture? Lol I want to do this but I'm having trouble understanding
perfect to put in a grow tent to cool it during the summer
I did it in my truck and gotten a refrigerator with 7 frozen water bottles no problem buying ice, sleeping better now thanks for this great videos,
I love it for tent camping. What size screws did you use? Does the blower have multiple speeds?
I made a really large one very similar to the one shown here to store the bodies in. I need to finish the one that I've recently been working on and soon!
You would be better off reversing the fan direction and pulling the air through the cooler. This will cause a low pressure in the box which in fact actually promotes temperature drop. Plus it creates negative pressure in the box and that makes a better seal of the container itself.
Instead of blowing air in? Let the fan blow it out? Got it👍😎 Air being forced in? Goes over the ice. Then is forced out to cool the outside air. As long as you have air flow going out of the room too. Crack a window open. Sounds a lot better! 😜
@@FelipeGomez-vx2sx Yes. And this would help dehumidify, right?
Make a video about it. Help everyone with a visual learning get a better understanding what you're talking about thank you.
Prob wouldn't get the rapid expansion you're looking for with a fan, I get what your saying though
Good point, especially I you container was seal tight from the start.
Very well done ! great video too. Short and directly to the key details. I made something along these lines several years ago with acceptable results, but your idea about directing the air below the ice is truly innovative with minimal additional $'s and time. Thank you !!
You, sir, are an innovator! I love your idea, I have made a blower box that doesn’t get as cold but allows for the ice to last longer by using 2 transmission oil coolers to cool the air going in the box and the air going out of the box. The box is connected to an ice chest via insulated tubing that has a pump pumping water from the ice chest to the coolers in the blower box. I use a turbo fan at the exit point. The temp has gotten to the mid 40s, it’s just a proto type.
Going to make this for my cat house since the summers are extreme here in India. Thank you so much for this!
If you wanted to power this off a standard 120v outlet, while tent camping use a laptop power supply. If you don’t already have one they are cheep at a place like goodwill. You could also get really fancy and wire in a 12v dimmer switch to control the fan speed.
You can get a hi , med , low switch an a fan out of a car at a scrap yard an if you use a yeti then salt the ice
That's pretty smart. And with 200+ cfm's being pushed through a 6 inch pipe the velocity or throw would be outstanding for rapid cooling of an area space while under load. A simple cooler turned into this is freaking awesome lol
Blowing under the ice is a great idea. One suggestion is a cap for inlet and outlet when transferring it when not in use. Adding a filter at the inlet would also keep bugs n debris from being sucked in.
@OnlyGod MayCommandMe you beat me to it🤣
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This also makes a great low crawl fog machine as well for holloween, chilling the smoke makes it crawls across ground like fog
He looks like Ned Kelly with glasses and I'm living for it ❤️not to mention he just cooled over a million people houses, thank you!!😸😺👍
Very cool build! You could increase the air diffusion by extending a duct or hose going across the bottom with a series of smaller holes to evenly distribute the air under the ice. Perhaps even a tight mesh could even work? Now I wanna build one!
Air conditioning requires dehumidification. This not an air conditioner. This is a humidifier. You are very creative and very intelligent. Your design skills are impressive. The quality of your video was also excellent. Thank you for posting.
He does say early on that it's technically not an air conditioner, but an air cooler.
Average air conditioners are basically plain air coolers. The dehumidifying effect comes along with the cooling effect provided that air at lower temperatures have lower relative humidity. As the air flows through your AC unit it gets rid of part of the water just because it looses the power to carry water vapour and this is due to energy loss as overall temperature drops. So, yeah, this thing is kind of an air conditioner.
@@alexismarcane8491 Dryer air makes you feel cooler. When sweat evaporates, it has a cooling effect.
As Alexis said, yes, it does dehumidify the air.
Alexis Marcané this is not in any way like an air conditioner!!! AC removes moisture causing temp to drop. This adds moisture that will cause mold to grow and stink up the car.
Hey man this is a really great idea. How do you avoid condensation blowing out the seals of the lid and output?
What do you do about the water build up in the bottom once the ice melts? Wouldn't the blower fan splash the water back up into the pipe or the water reach the pipe as the ice melts?
Let your carpet deal with that also the electric! Maybe a fire…. Vid gona be hot or cold😅
I built one about 15 years ago, still have it. I use gallon freezer bags filled with infant baby diaper filling, soaked with water and frozen hard. My air source is a bathroom vent fan on the lid. An on of switch is also mounted on the top. I have a 6 ft. cord to plug it in. My exhaust is a dryer vent exhaust. These are not new. A lot of great improvements shown here, though!
There is one thing to remember. As you run the air over the ice, it is picking up moisture, thus adding humidity to the air making it just s bad. if you have one, run a dehumidifier. this will also help You need to run the fresh air though a tube then fill cooler with a small amount of water, add the ice, so it is over the tube . by adding the water helps to transfer the temp of the ice into the dry tube. use 2 inch PVC pipe. run the 2-3 in parallel (using some Ts and elbows). Intake, start with a larger diameter pipe, then use a reducer down to the 2 inch pipe. Output end with a larger diameter pipe. If you keep pumping humid air into your house you could start having mold problems.
It's all basic thermodynamics.
Dehumidifier would end up adding heat since it works by condensation. This would have a latent heat effect, but in reverse since condensation is the reverse of evaporation which has a latent cooling effect. Not to mention the electricity used eventually just turns into heat anyway. (A dehumidifier is actually an efficient source of winter heat if you live in a mild/chilly, damp climate, or in spring/fall when you’re experiencing rainy 50F weather)
Also, a dehumidifier is basically an air conditioner that doesn’t exhaust the heat outside, it simply recirculates it in the room. You’re better off just using A/C.
Before anyone contemplates actually doing something like this, I suggest considering how much heat energy can be removed by the ice that will fit in the cooler (less the space used for the air passages). When you put plain water ice in a cooler, it rises to the melting point very quickly, after which it takes only 144 Btu of heat to melt one pound of ice ("Latent heat of fusion"), and about another 30-35 Btu to raise the temperature of that water to where it won't provide any sensible cooling (other than evaporative cooling, which isn't effective in humid weather). So the best you're going to get is about 175-180 Btu per pound of water. How many pounds of ice fit in the modified cooler shown in this video? The cost and weight of this setup make it impractical, especially if you have to buy the ice and/or you have to carry all that weight any distance.
Have you constructed this yourself to prove your data correct or incorrect? He built his and real world tested it.
What about adding salt to the ice.
You're using the same machine that's constantly keeping heat dissipated, when it gets down to a certain temperature, the energy requirement goes down, but yes you're still technically correct, the issue is are you routing the heat out of the house, is the freezer keeping things cold to the point it only kicks on to disperse enough heat to keep things where they're at, is the internal insulation thick and well designed enough?
There are a multitude of variables to consider here, but if you're using this to cool another room, you will get a measurable difference in the room you want to work on.
15 minutes of glorious cooling.
you are correct..your blowing hot air over ice or under whatever
Great stuff, thank you. How can this be hooked up to a wall outlet versus a cigarette lighter? Thanks.
I use a 1040 cfm 8 inch computer fan. It last longer on the 12v battery. I use a 12v that is meant for a security backup. I run a dryer hose around the perimeter of the ten with hole cut out at 1 foot intervals, or so. Feels like central ac. My tent was 69 degrees on a hot florida day that was 98 on the outside. I spent 20ish dollars. Most expensive was the battery but I wanted as beefy battery as I could use and it still being practical.
how long will your cooler last? specifically hours of operations.
hours ?? minutes lol
runner lol
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Good cuestions ! 🤔
Woow, that's lovely!! How do you get rid of the moisture when it hits ("normal") air?
u dont
Anyway to power this Blower, or the 3" version of this blower with a USB power bank or any other battery source?
Use an AC DC adapter or converter
Wow!! That's awesome! I have never seen something like this before! 🥶🥶🥶
Thank you very much....fishing trip now... especially having a heat wave in Texas and other places!
Thank you for all your hard work, efforts and research and putting a practical, economical working unit literally into our hands. There are lots of ppl that now live in vehicles that don’t have to suffer and have relief. Those that use theoretical criticisms and condemn the efforts without actually building something should move out of the way for those that build something and at least make an effort. Textbook knowledge of btu’s and thermodynamics can be whatever they are but laws and outcomes changes when motions are made and adjustments are also made. It’s one thing to be stagnant in knowledge and another in real time applications. Your project here given to the world here was created in your head, constructed with your hands and perfected with your heart, thanks for being a doer…
HOW DID HE NOT REPLY TO THIS MASTERPIECE
You should make one that has a variable speed controller for when you dont want to make it that cold or dont want as much air flow
put a damper in the duct ?
,funny I was just thinking about how I have that same blower and a DC speed controller already wired up to it I was gonna use for something else but didn't. Now I know what I'm using it for.
I want to cool a patio outdoor. I wonder if this is good to have to cool for a party or should I do the copper fan ac?
There is also a evaporation cooler people make out of box fans
Just get a appropriate sized misting fan they work great!
Best idea is to move party indoors if you want to stay cool.
Thanks for the video. How do I plug this into the wall?
Great idea. What kind of humidity does it produce though?
I personally do not like tools rusting and electronics shorting out between the dust and humidity. The dust holds the moisture and causes issues.
Very cool version! I think if I did one, it would have both ducts through the lid, or, would simply fit the intake fan through the back end of the box, to avoid having bulky ducts stick out on 2 sides.
Using dry ice is costly, but more effective at chilling. Water ice ends up humidifying the cooled space, & having to dump the meltwater periodically. Using a cooler with at least double the wall thickness, preserves ice for several hours, so you could commute to work & back home on the same load of ice...but only if the box & ducts are far better insulated. Refreezable ice packs is another possible.
I was thinking that too I think that if they would have that same cooler out of expensive yeti or something like that with thicker walls but I find it would be really hard be cutting and drilling holes into the expensive cooler like that.
Dry ice will expose you to carbon dioxide
Thanks for the video
How long does it run using one bag of ice?.
I'd rather buy an air conditioner and it would cost way less.
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Would be interesting if you could run ducting back and forth inside cooler to form a heat exchanger and use ice & rock salt. A salt bath can reach 0°F. So in theory your discharge air could be significantly colder. Plus you would get cooling the melted ice bath versus just blowing through the ice while it’s frozen
I like this idea of ice and salt. We are making our own a/c and will try your idea.
@@kathleenfoster8552 - good luck with your attempt. The short coming of ice based system is keeping the ice/water cold. Ever though about evaporative cooling?
When the oce melts and water gets high won't it go into the tube and stop flow? I mean of your asleep you can't always drain it so curious
Thanks for a great idea. I used mine Friday and it cools my pickup.
No, it isn't economical. This uses a lot of ice.
It is getting me by until I get my new AC system and put it in.
I thought frozen bottles of water would work but you need ice. The ice blocks around
the intake tube where it goes into the lath and forces the cooling air to circulate.
The idea of having the intake tube on the side and angled down recirculates
the cooler air better. That is, you are cooling cooler air and the intake and
exit aren't competing. Everything about this design is great.
My only disappointment is I didn't get a cooler with a drain plug.
You can get the adjustable elbows a lot cheaper at home depot,
but they don't pivot as easily.
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i made one just like that about 15 years ago they work great always add some alchahol to the water it really gets cold !
Did you misspell alcohol? If you misspelled alcohol, I don't know if I trust your advice.
Oh demon alcohol sad memories I can’t recall! - the Kinks. It wouldn’t hurt to try this though,
How long is your ice lasting and when the ice melts are you still getting air flow?
Max Well 8i made one of these last year man it worked for very small areas i basiclly had to have it right next to where i sat and i was literally freezing my own ice the doesnt last that long
DEXTER MORGAN lots of words. Zero info.
@@JpOcDenver Not much punctuation either. ;)
@@dextermorgan9703 Killing us with your grammar bro...
Internet Tough Guy I hate you grammar nazis !! Who cares except for you teenage brats??? 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
Fantastic design , although I would suggest that you put the fan on the exit rather than the entrance , fans work far more efficiently sucking than pushing . But then again you might not want greater airflow . Again great .job well done
A fan that is sucking moist air will rust and die sooner.
Super job mate, I made my own fan, ..but your cooler rules sky high!!!!!!!
Thank you for sharing your cooler project.
It's obvious that it's a great simple design
Great little DIY AC The only thing I would change is I would have baffles to close off the vent and blower when not in use to conserve ice
I might add a regulator on the blower to control the output and also conserve ice.
It will make a nice bubbly relaxing sound whe your ice starts to melt :)
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That was my thoughts too 😂
Man, you built that thing without even one beer break? I bow to you sir.
Hi, what if instead of the metal shelf, and the mesh, use bottled ice, as the bottom layer, with bagged ice on top? Makes for super easy cleaning as well
I don’t even know how I ended up on this video, but that thing is badass! You should totally improve upon that design and take it to either the market, kickstarter or shark tank. You got a winner here.
How long can you have it run until the ice melts?
all depends on the temperature outside
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I don’t need this but I now want to make one. 😂
You should have the intake and the duct that blows air out facing in opposite directions.
Why? Please explain the science behind it . Thanks
The intake is sucking in hot air, (for this example lets say from the north) and the out duct is blowing out cold air (to the north), so you have created a cycle of air that is just blowing the already cooled air back into the intake to be cooled again, this won't make the air get colder and colder at an efficient rate, instead at best it will just keep your ice slightly colder for longer lol, you want your cooling duct to be blowing (south)....away from the intake so it can fill the room/car with cold air.
Ideally, the intake should be as high up as possible so it is sucking in the already risen hot air and your cold output duct as low as possible so you don't end up with a useless cycle of air as already mentioned.
One better would be to have one more duct and fan on it's own, set it high up in the room/car so it's sucking the hot air from high up and pumping it out of a window, i would make sure the inline fan was positioned outside though so the extra motor doesn't add heat to the room/car, this is the reason air cons are so effective because they suck out the hot air of the room which makes any cold air you put in way more effective.
I’m very interested in your project , the temps are excellent , would like to ask if you wanted to increase the time of usable ice can it be managed through frozen water bottles . If this gives you longer run times . Delivery drivers would benefit through a cool drink on the road .
Dude 🤯..thank you so much for posting this. Hell yes
What about connecting a small solar panel to a marine battery and hook up the blower to it and add a switch to turn it on/off? And put the cooler and battery on a small cart wheels?
How long will the air be in the 30s?
How long will it take for the ice to melt?
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Great video 👍 my question is how long does it last before you have to refill with ice and what size room will it cool?? Thanks
What size screws and what motor with different speeds? Love to build one for my tent camping
Hi very nice and you took the time to build one Great
what would happen if you had fan sucking from on top and on the side an inlet tube that brances off on top of the ice and under the ice the leingth of the cooler it would be sealed at the ends but with enough holes 1 " along the run to let the fan suck correctly
Im thinking the longer the hot air is in the cold cooler the colder the air comming out also how well would you expirment work if you used like enough ice packs to seal the the top shielf ??
thanks
Currently building two of these in Australia, thank you for the info. To run off solar the wattage is amazing. And I only use the freezer I'm currently using anyway :)
Did you ever finish it? I live in Australia as well, but I worry that something like this will increase the humidity which is pretty bad already near the coast.
how long does it last before the ice melts? how do you handle the moisture it adds to the air doing this?
I've heard a few hours. I'd use water frozen in containers to stop humidity from entering your home.
@@ksks6802 That what i was thinking instead of buying ice, get some water bottles and freeze them and reuse them instead of buying ice all the time
It will only add as much moisture as the outflowing air can hold. How much is that? It depends of the temperature of the air.
@@altha-rf1et That will reduce its efficiency.
@@Xanthopteryx it depends on where they live. If your rockn a swap cooler then open ice. If your in a dry climate using this method in conjunction with your central AC then enclosed frozen water. I'm not going into why. Google it.
Build one out of a truck tool box and plumb it through the sliding back window..
I love the Larry the Cable Guy AC. PU version.
Hilarious 😂
Yep.
That’s gd brilliant 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Get a camper shell on a truck and plum through the back glass from the seat and survive the summer in your truck rent free. Basicaly 2-4 bucks a day or night depending on how long it last
This video has been stored away in long term memory for future summer camping trips.
That’s awesome, might actually pull more cold air of the put another fan at the top vent to blow the air out!
I save plastic bottles of all kinds ,time to start freezing water and do this.
NEVER USE DRY ICE.
What happens if you use dry ice?
@@Viltgance1 Dry ice is carbon dioxide. Too much of it in an enclosed area will suffocate any animals (including your pets, your children, and you).
@@Uejji holy shit! Good to know, thanks.
Very Wise 4u2 suggest we use frozen water bottles for reuse,recycle, refill to refine😂Ty
Replenish 😉
I've seen 10 hours of cooling time at 21° f. And what impresses me is insulation inside of cooler at 1 1/2" thick separates the ice from the residual air therefore reducing warm air melting the ice. It has an oil cooler radiator that pump freezing water blown by an Ryobi 18v fan and a DC pump powered by a Ryobi 18v inverter. How long does yours last?
Can you post a link with instructions please! I’m not at all Davy on how to do any if this but I need to make one for my 70 year old wife!!
Excellent, very good tutorial
Thanks for this, it's great! What works better, a bunch of small frozen water bottles or a bunch of ice/cold packs?
Best to use frozen bottles of sea water, as salt water freezes at a lower temperature - around 28 degrees Fahrenheit so even colder. Yes your home freezer will freeze salt water fine - but obviously if on a road trip, as soon as they have melted it's back to stopping off at a store & using normal ice bags
Is that A/C only good for very small spaces like you showed in your car?
You use salted ice and pack them in medium size glass mason jars and stack that onto the grate for much cooler temperatures. It'll lower the temperature of the ice from 32*F to 0*F . It's also less messy too :P
Did you have any issue with the jars cracking?
Jars take away the surface area for the ice to cool the air. Direct contact is the way to go
@@TreyPerryWx That's why I said medium sized, enough to double stack. Also since the jars will allow for 0*F temperature instead of 32*F, the loss in surface area will not be sufficient to prevent further cooling.
kyzercube, I know you can get the temperature of water down low when you add salt in solution mixed with ice. I'll have to try your suggestion of salting the ice. I don't care about the mess of melted ice.....it's a cooler with a drain plug. I'm not buying what you said about the exposed surface area of ice not making a difference. Crushed ice cools liquids faster because there is more area and over time that means colder faster. Mason jars are a hassle. The lids will begin rusting over time and that isn't good. The risk of breakage would be an unneeded burden. The set up as shown in the video is rugged and simple.
How would you get it to freeze if its salted? Would a regular home fridge freezer be enough?
I would like to know how long it lasted on a full tub of ice
20-30 minutes at 89° when the ice melts you'll have less cool air as the air bounces off the ice water instead of flowing through the ice. Unless you add a drain to get the water out.
I made one, exactly with the parts he listed. it works but prepared to have a truck load of ice. I stuffed mine as full as I could with ice, and with a outside temp of 85, after 1 hour all the ice was gone. I froze 23 water bottles and used them, and they lasted about 2 1/2 hours before they were all melted. If I had known that information, I would not have even wasted my time or money.
Honestly, what did you think would happen? I’m not trying to be mean but you’re sucking in hot air and moving it across the ice before blowing it back out. It makes sense that the hot air moving across the ice would quickly melt it....which is what hot air usually does with ice..... again, I’m not trying to be mean, but I think you should have reasonable expectations about the projects you invest your time and money into. Spend a little more time in the research and development stage (specifically the research stage) before spending money and finding out the project won’t work for your needs. If I built this it would be intended to run 1-2 cycles (a cycle being the time it takes to melt all the ice) during the hottest parts of the day, then I would switch to smaller usb or battery operated fans once I ran out of ice. I also use a Berkey water filtration system so I can filter the melted ice and use it for drinking water. Anyways, you should sell yours on Craigslist or something. If you put time and effort into the build someone else will surely be happy to take it off your hands. 😆
What about dry ice?
@@foxmulder216 Dry ice should not be melted (sublimated) in an enclosed unventilated space. You'll gas up your air with CO2, which is bad for breathing.
It was cold for 2 1/2 hours?
@@thelifeofjools8384 actually, it would work for a small aircraft owner. To be able to cool a flight down would be awesome for some without a/c. Probably more efficient to use a smaller duct and fan. But to get 2 hours of cooled air would be heaven. No problem with the weight and balance if the back seat is open. We can always get ice. I'm just saying....
Your idea is much better than the others, that is why I do the same.
i love it how long it last?
Dyi on Amazon as of today is around 120 ish for this build. I work in an office at a warehouse average temperature is 90+ with No AC so this is looking nice. Just need to convince my boss to get an ice machine and a scooper. 😂
Got link?
@@mq4oneseventyeight567 yes but I put in all the work and don't feel like sharing. Happy hunting.
Dude! Refrigeration air is 40 degrees. Wow, that would be great for camping. Good job!
Hey how u doing there, it's a really nice idea just a question why u didn't use PVC fittings?
Probably because metals take hot and cold really well. The metal helps with keeping the air cold rather PVC takes a while. I would probably use pvc just for its longevity compared to metals.
I'd say the cost of $3 at menards/home depot vs the $8 for PVC and you would need the piece that slips in between them
I understand make sense
This would be a great project for non-profits to make for the elderly who can't afford AC in the summer heat or after a power failure. It would take dedicated people who would stay in touch providing ice to the people to keep it running. You would need a solar panel or a battery to keep it running.
My A/C went out in my pickup. EXPENSIVE FIX! not no more!😍 Thanks dude!
Learn to fix you A/C and you car boat mechanical electrical electronics takes some effort but will save you 100 of thousands in your life time .
What is the decibel level when it is running? Say I have it in the front seat of my pickup will I be able to stand it?
Glow Dog
Putting the fan inside the cooler could help lower the decibels.
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So if I use a yeti can it cool my house for a year with a couple bags of ice ?
Great idea using marine blower!!!! All the years of boating never thought of that. Thank you for another great repurposing idea.
I'm thinking this will be good when we loose power for several days after a hurricane. How would you power it up for use in a home? I've seen one on youtube where he used a solar panel and a battery. How would you do it?