It’s a good point you make at the end Timmy, the situations you’re talking about can be frustrating but perspective is definitely something to keep in mind when it’s not going as smooth as you’d hoped
I have no intentions of ever making barwork for my car 😂 but I watched the whole thing, was a great video Timmy! love your work, keep the videos coming ✌🏽
Gday Timmy, the new bender makes life easy, im stoked you re-done the sliders and they look a heap better the the first set, top job as always mate, Cheers
Great video. Adding to what you said @ the end. I am using a donor GU rail in my build & many of the factory welds are rather "ordinary" & some are down right shite. & I have found the same issue with just about every mass manufactured chassis rail that was welded manually by a human. On production lines way back even the start of the industrial revolution speed was the focus & as mass manifacturing evolved it become more about speed. Welders & assemblers were pushed & squeezed for speed, something usually has to give when that is the case & usually it is quality that is the 1st thing to suffer. With my GU rail we are bracing & jigging it & fixing all the imperfections with the fit & welds, this rail had never been in an accident. Will do the same with the body, doing it in such away that everything will still flex & move enough, without cracking but will be stronger, in places where it was lacking. Also when I made rock sliders for my daily drive all the tube section where I needed a mirror copy I fabricated them @ the same time as well as taking notes. I found I am less likely to forget a detail in the process & tend to get a more mirror identical result. Notching by hand is like anything it takes practice to get them good & you really have to pay attention, some don't have the patience or knack for it. My 1st manually fabricated notches were shite. When you start wasting through the material you either chuck a tanty & give up or you decide to get better. With sliders that don't quite fit, ratchet straps ratchet straps & ratchet straps & sometimes oxy-acetylene if you have it! Just be careful you don't set your straps on fire! :0*
Haha thanks heaps mate, and interesting info too, I have seen with most mass produced chassis a lot of the welds end early or are undercut, but yeah every time I have welded to the chassis for whatever mod etc it’s all been signed off by an engineer I don’t mess about with that crap, especially putting my car on the internet it just puts a target on your back 👍🏻👍🏻
Awesome job mate 👍🏽. Great to see someone having a good crack at these. With all them bends and stuff it had me like yeah nah stuff that lol. They turned out great too tho 🤙🏽
Hahaha I know what you mean it’s a steep learning curve but I dunno I feel like once I got the hang of it it’s pretty straight forward. I honestly think my new headlight hoops were harder than the sliders and brush bars 🫠 But thanks man appreciate you 🙏🏻
Mint video Timmy, they look sweet. Good call at the end about fitment of bar work etc…can be a pain in the arse sometimes but everyone is trying their best for it to be as easy to fit at home as possible…or you could always pay for fitting 😉
Haha that’s exactly right, but it’s just a fact like.. 10-20y worth of vehicles they’re not all gonna be the same, and even if we say they are, heat moves things, you gotta make it take it 😅
if you know your angle - notch it before you bend it then you can rely on the degree of the notcher. just need opposite angle for the notch. hope it helps./
That’s an awesome idea thanks for the tip, will definitely be helpful 🤙🏻🤙🏻 sometimes you can’t if you’re designing it as you go but that doesn’t change the fact I hadn’t thought of it, cheers 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Sweet video man I use to make a fair few sets of sliders a few years ago nothing fancy like these best thing I brought was a band saw. Keep up the good work
Oh mate what I would give for a band saw for like precise angles and even keeping the grinder dust out of the shed, thanks heaps bro maybe one day haha
@@timmyhasheart hahah they are definitely a game changer I only brought a $600 job nothing fancy probably more than that now but iv never had a problem with it keep the good content coming 👌
Love your work buddy. Im currently in Tassie for 3 weeks doing some tracks tomorrow morning doing the 1000 dollar track solo. Bloody excited to send the 60 series up
@@timmyhasheart sweet as thanks for letting me know that I've got the saw just incase. Hopefully it will be a fun track and I can put on a show currently running 4inch lift with 40s 😎
I reckon they have come up smick as man well done aha and yeah that’s it hey they would be better than what I could do mate you’re quite clever don’t doubt yourself 😂😜👌
Hi tim, thinking of doing my first barwork by myself, looking like ill make a rear bar. All ibe got is a 140amp stick welder and a angle grinder. I mean ive got lots of tools but no tube bender and no notcher. Do you reckon itd be too much hassle? So far its looking like i will just be making it out of mild steel plate so i shouldnt need a bender right? Cheers and sorry for the very unstructured question😅
If you’re pretty confident on the welder and grinder you could just buy prefab bends. From nubco or pipe store they sell bends that are already formed so you just cut and butt weld them where needed
Ended up getting a bended. But wanted to say thanks for the content. You.are the only bloke on youtube i watch litterally everyday and have been for weeks now. Ive learnt a lot from watching you and in general i rate your builds. Also nice not to have a overbearing figure like some other dudes. Keep it up man i really see a future in this. @@timmyhasheart
Soooo.. I believe it’s easier to build sliders with these plates provided you follow a strict welding procedure, as in once they’re all mocked up with tacks you cut the whole lot back off the chassis, then weld out, then weld back to the chassis, and also because I have 1 mount above the radius arm, a clamp wouldn’t work because it would hit the radius while trying to slide down off the chassis. But with all that being said, I think a chassis clamp would be stronger in the long run because it’s grabbing the whole beam as opposed to just grabbing the outside wall. So there is a bit of a compromise either way just depends what you favour more. 🤙🏻🤙🏻
@@timmyhasheart yeah rightio, my current sliders have a clamp mount and I’ll be re doing all my barwork/tray very soon Heard people say about weld on chassis mounts being stronger but in saying that it’ll be a first time experience my this sort of stuff and could go wrong Cheers mate👍
Well to be honest I think they’re probably a fair price like.. that kit is $4000 for the bender, notcher, angle finder, 2 die sets, air hydro ram, foot control like it’s a good investment I think if you’ll use it a lot like me 👊🏻 Appreciate it dude thanks for the comment 🙏🏻
Thanks so much mate appreciate that 👊🏻👊🏻 despite constantly saying “it’s finished now” I’m sure I won’t stop until this thing is rotting in a paddock haha
It’s a good point you make at the end Timmy, the situations you’re talking about can be frustrating but perspective is definitely something to keep in mind when it’s not going as smooth as you’d hoped
1000% mate that’s an awesome way to put it 🫶🏻
I have no intentions of ever making barwork for my car 😂 but I watched the whole thing, was a great video Timmy! love your work, keep the videos coming ✌🏽
Haha that’s alright there’s plenty of places that make them! I just like to tinker, awesome thank you 🙏🏻
Superb quality mate. Hats off to you 👍 love seeing a fellow Tasmanians Content
Haha nice dude thank you! Tassie rep for the win 🙏🏻
Gday Timmy, the new bender makes life easy, im stoked you re-done the sliders and they look a heap better the the first set, top job as always mate, Cheers
Thanks heaps dude I appreciate that 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Great video. Adding to what you said @ the end. I am using a donor GU rail in my build & many of the factory welds are rather "ordinary" & some are down right shite.
& I have found the same issue with just about every mass manufactured chassis rail that was welded manually by a human. On production lines way back even the start of the industrial revolution speed was the focus & as mass manifacturing evolved it become more about speed.
Welders & assemblers were pushed & squeezed for speed, something usually has to give when that is the case & usually it is quality that is the 1st thing to suffer.
With my GU rail we are bracing & jigging it & fixing all the imperfections with the fit & welds, this rail had never been in an accident. Will do the same with the body, doing it in such away that everything will still flex & move enough, without cracking but will be stronger, in places where it was lacking.
Also when I made rock sliders for my daily drive all the tube section where I needed a mirror copy I fabricated them @ the same time as well as taking notes. I found I am less likely to forget a detail in the process & tend to get a more mirror identical result.
Notching by hand is like anything it takes practice to get them good & you really have to pay attention, some don't have the patience or knack for it. My 1st manually fabricated notches were shite. When you start wasting through the material you either chuck a tanty & give up or you decide to get better.
With sliders that don't quite fit, ratchet straps ratchet straps & ratchet straps & sometimes oxy-acetylene if you have it!
Just be careful you don't set your straps on fire! :0*
Haha thanks heaps mate, and interesting info too, I have seen with most mass produced chassis a lot of the welds end early or are undercut, but yeah every time I have welded to the chassis for whatever mod etc it’s all been signed off by an engineer I don’t mess about with that crap, especially putting my car on the internet it just puts a target on your back 👍🏻👍🏻
Sick work Timmy boy 🤙🏼 just got back to the south coast after a quick tassie bomb around , such an epic place .
Thanks heaps mate! Ooooft nice one!! What did you do while you were down?
@@timmyhasheart mainly touring bud ,had the misses an two dogs .. did the full lap around an found some crackin camping , left real stoked 👍🏼
Timmy, you are the real deal. Great stuff!
Thanks so much mate that legitimately makes my day reading something like that, thank you 👊🏻👊🏻
awesome work Tim, you make it look easy, the tube bender makes life easier
Thanks heaps mate 🤟🏻🤟🏻 yeah once you get your head around it if you’ve used other benders it works well 👌🏻
Great video Timmy - they came out unreal and love your vids - perfect mix of showing the work and commentary..
Thanks heaps mate, I worried I kept it a bit long but already cut like hours out of it 😂
Liked your manual technique, I usually draw the profile and use the edge of a 5 " grinding wheel and finish with flap disc
Oh yeah a grind wheel would be a lot better but yeah snipping the edges off just blew my mind when I was shown haha. 👍🏻
Great work Buddy. Always fun to watch, and learn.
Thank you dude appreciate you always stopping by and leaving a comment 👌🏻👌🏻
👍🍻🎯. Great content mate.
Cheers dude thanks for watching 🤙🏻🤙🏻
as always timmy another awesome video
Thanks mate cheers for watching 🫡🫡
Awesome job mate 👍🏽.
Great to see someone having a good crack at these.
With all them bends and stuff it had me like yeah nah stuff that lol.
They turned out great too tho 🤙🏽
Hahaha I know what you mean it’s a steep learning curve but I dunno I feel like once I got the hang of it it’s pretty straight forward. I honestly think my new headlight hoops were harder than the sliders and brush bars 🫠
But thanks man appreciate you 🙏🏻
Great Video. Easy to follow.
Awesome mate thank you 🙏🏻
I'm trying to finish a uni assignment & then you post this. Guess the assignment will have to wait......
Hahaha well I appreciate you taking the time to watch it mate thank you 🙏🏻
Looking like a pro Tim lovin your work 🎉
Haha thanks mate 👊🏻👊🏻
Mint video Timmy, they look sweet.
Good call at the end about fitment of bar work etc…can be a pain in the arse sometimes but everyone is trying their best for it to be as easy to fit at home as possible…or you could always pay for fitting 😉
Haha that’s exactly right, but it’s just a fact like.. 10-20y worth of vehicles they’re not all gonna be the same, and even if we say they are, heat moves things, you gotta make it take it 😅
And thank you dude 👊🏻👊🏻
💯 mate, totally agree. Love all the vids mate, keep you the great work 👌
if you know your angle - notch it before you bend it then you can rely on the degree of the notcher. just need opposite angle for the notch. hope it helps./
That’s an awesome idea thanks for the tip, will definitely be helpful 🤙🏻🤙🏻 sometimes you can’t if you’re designing it as you go but that doesn’t change the fact I hadn’t thought of it, cheers 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Sweet video man I use to make a fair few sets of sliders a few years ago nothing fancy like these best thing I brought was a band saw. Keep up the good work
Oh mate what I would give for a band saw for like precise angles and even keeping the grinder dust out of the shed, thanks heaps bro maybe one day haha
@@timmyhasheart hahah they are definitely a game changer I only brought a $600 job nothing fancy probably more than that now but iv never had a problem with it keep the good content coming 👌
Love your work buddy. Im currently in Tassie for 3 weeks doing some tracks tomorrow morning doing the 1000 dollar track solo. Bloody excited to send the 60 series up
Nice 👍🏻 let us know how you go hopefully not too many trees down she’s had some wind!
@@timmyhasheart sweet as thanks for letting me know that I've got the saw just incase. Hopefully it will be a fun track and I can put on a show currently running 4inch lift with 40s 😎
Love it mate. Ur a weapon ❤
Thanks mate 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Good work mate 👍
Cheers dude 🤙🏻🤙🏻
Like all your work Tim, looks spot on 👍 how good is the notcher 👏
Oh dude it makes life so much easier I heavily rate it. 🙏🏻
Awesome video man keep up the amazing work I always love watch and learn 🤙 I might have to hit you up when I make some bar work hey 😂
Haha I dunno if im good enough yet to make stuff for others, at least building my own stuff I can scrap it and start again 🤣 thanks heaps dude 👊🏻👊🏻
I reckon they have come up smick as man well done aha and yeah that’s it hey they would be better than what I could do mate you’re quite clever don’t doubt yourself 😂😜👌
Hi timmy you are e pro in your shed.....i tatch every video cheers mate
Thanks so much mate 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻
Hey great job on all the bar work. Turned out great 👍
I might have to invest in a speedworks bender.
What size tube did you use for the scrub bars..?
Thanks mate, they’re definitely handy, I used 40nb 👍🏻
Hi tim, thinking of doing my first barwork by myself, looking like ill make a rear bar. All ibe got is a 140amp stick welder and a angle grinder. I mean ive got lots of tools but no tube bender and no notcher. Do you reckon itd be too much hassle? So far its looking like i will just be making it out of mild steel plate so i shouldnt need a bender right? Cheers and sorry for the very unstructured question😅
If you’re pretty confident on the welder and grinder you could just buy prefab bends. From nubco or pipe store they sell bends that are already formed so you just cut and butt weld them where needed
@@timmyhasheart cheers mate, do you reckon a tube bender is worth it? Might puck up one of those hydraulic bottle jack ones.
Ended up getting a bended. But wanted to say thanks for the content. You.are the only bloke on youtube i watch litterally everyday and have been for weeks now. Ive learnt a lot from watching you and in general i rate your builds. Also nice not to have a overbearing figure like some other dudes. Keep it up man i really see a future in this. @@timmyhasheart
Saw you yesterday
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1. I didnt see any crocs, anywhere.
2. Thankyou for the PSA about heats affect on metal. Rare to find people who understand that.
Haha I love this comment.
1. They’re there, look harder ;)
2. No worries at all mate, I definitely learned the hard way over the past few years haha
Timmy nice work, can you tell me the specs of the tube that you used? thank you man
Hey mate thank you, yeah of course it’s 40nb Sch30 or medium wall 👍🏻👍🏻
I wonder If it is possible to get barwork like this legal in Norway. I can't remember ever seeing it on any roadgoing car in europe.
Yeah not sure mate they’re pretty common here but you might have to check with your local literature or call someone it transport maybe 🤟🏻
Hey mate
How did you find doing those chassis plate mounts as opposed to a mount that clamps the chassis?
Soooo.. I believe it’s easier to build sliders with these plates provided you follow a strict welding procedure, as in once they’re all mocked up with tacks you cut the whole lot back off the chassis, then weld out, then weld back to the chassis, and also because I have 1 mount above the radius arm, a clamp wouldn’t work because it would hit the radius while trying to slide down off the chassis. But with all that being said, I think a chassis clamp would be stronger in the long run because it’s grabbing the whole beam as opposed to just grabbing the outside wall. So there is a bit of a compromise either way just depends what you favour more. 🤙🏻🤙🏻
@@timmyhasheart yeah rightio, my current sliders have a clamp mount and I’ll be re doing all my barwork/tray very soon
Heard people say about weld on chassis mounts being stronger but in saying that it’ll be a first time experience my this sort of stuff and could go wrong
Cheers mate👍
Bro. You need to make a fab table if rooms tight make it like a ping pong table folds up
Oh damn right I do, I just didn’t have time haha but yeah I’ll get around to it for sure. 👍🏻
Nice work 👍. Good to see you supporting an aussie company , just dont do a cost per bend 😁
Well to be honest I think they’re probably a fair price like.. that kit is $4000 for the bender, notcher, angle finder, 2 die sets, air hydro ram, foot control like it’s a good investment I think if you’ll use it a lot like me 👊🏻
Appreciate it dude thanks for the comment 🙏🏻
Flappy wheel 😂🙌
That’s it mate!! Bloody flap disks, what do you call them? 😅
@@timmyhasheart flapper disks not much difference
What are those joint called?
They’re called a Camberg Joint or a Roll Cage Joiner everywhere I’ve seen them mate 👍🏻👍🏻
Great vid mate. You do some bloody good work for a young fella. Not many of you guys left.
Keep it going bud👌
Thanks so much mate appreciate that 👊🏻👊🏻 despite constantly saying “it’s finished now” I’m sure I won’t stop until this thing is rotting in a paddock haha
@@timmyhasheart a build like that will never end. I’ve been finished my old cruiser for a few years now but still find something to do or change. 👍
Haha that’s the truth if I ever heard it. Thanks again for watching mate appreciate you taking the time 🙏🏻
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wow! fancy ! everyone is gonna want some of this made now ! your onna good roll ! go the Patrol! 🛻😎🤙📹
Hahaha I would love to help them out but I’m not confident enough to do other peoples yet 👊🏻 I’ll get there