@@witchfromthenorth5294 Yes, during a state of real psychosis the ability for executive function is severely limited if there at all which is why a person would be declared insane not knowing right or wrong. He was obviously capable of using executive functioning, organizing and premeditation. Personally I think he fantasized about doing this over a long period and might have done things before not caught for. Might be part of the reason they moved states away, wish we had that information because a 14yr old does not create a "Murderkit" out of nowhere. I was in high school in that state and could not walk to the bathroom without being asked for a pass, and we had teachers everywhere so made it real difficult to sneak around. Real surprised there was nobody there to ask him. It might not have stopped him from committing a crime like this but it would have stopped it from happening so easily inside the school. ALSO- why were there not locked faculty bathrooms?? We had them and this was pre Columbine era for teachers- so many small things could have prevented this.
@@OffTheWagons During a state of real psychosis, a complex enough delusion can compel anyone to put on gloves. It just won’t be for any reason that makes sense.
@@OffTheWagons I wonder if he's done something like this before and was the reason for moving as well. Her mentioning where he used to live may have been the trigger to do it to her as well.
The way he left her body breaks my heart. When i look at her pictures her eyes seemed just so kind and full of life. Poor,poor woman...😞 may her lovely soul rest in peace.
Yes, it's horrific and it's a good question but this occurred after school hours so less people in the building but still doesn't explain how he was able to just wander unstopped.
This did NOT occur during classes. I remember hanging around after school for some kind of sports practice or wait for my parents who had to work later... Not many people around and people running around not a suspicious thing unfortunately 😟
"The girl." is a very creepy answer considering that she was a teacher, he a student. I wonder if it was his spontaneous answer or if he said it on purpose like deliberately disrespecting her authority. Both creepy anyways.
To me it maybe demonstrates a mental illness. A lack of understanding of figures, like a teacher vs student, can be a sign of something wrong going on. It’s definitely sick and creepy either way.
The diminished mental health plea baffles me. He took multiple changes of clothes, brought the weapon to school, had multiple backpacks & he waited until after school to do all of this. This was premeditated. Poor Colleen she had no idea what a monster she had in her class.
How he was able to just roll that dumpster through school, down the sidewalk, etc, like that was astounding to me. What a tragic loss of a loved teacher.
We had kids walk pigs into our school for a senior prank animal control was so confused and the school officials so pissed that it ended the senior prank of the year.
@@GenXfrom75 it is but really why does everybody keep harping on the trash bin? This to me is Philip's most ingenious improvisation, he probably felt like James Bond at the time, well except the time he was committing sexual sadism, then he felt more like dracula or something I don't even know who LOL and I shouldn't be laughing about it but it's just, I wonder why everybody keeps harping on the trash bin, doing what it looks like he's doing, moving some refuse somewhere, which is of course a horrible connection to make but there it is, this Philip kid was just nuts
This was 💯 pre-meditated murder. No “psychotic break” total bullshit. He should spend the rest of his life in prison, to pay his due for this awful awful crime, as well as keeping the rest of us safe. There is no way he won’t do it again if let out
I'm always somewhat hesitant when it comes to people with mental illness, but honestly Colleens murder seems premeditated - like how else do you have a pair of gloves ready? He was willing to kill someone, maybe wasn't set on her, but that only makes it all worse in my opinion. I would vote life in prison or medical facility. No parole.
What was his excuse for attacking the female in the juvenile detention center? Did he have a episode again? I think he blames females(except his mother) for the infidelity that occurred with his father. He left a note beside Colleens body saying: I hate you all.
Friends of him and family said he was always rude very disrespectful mean to his mother ! He blames her and other women for his dad's problem infidelity dvviolence and abuse of him.
As soon as I saw the pic of him wearing the red soccer jersey at the beginning, I recognized this case. What I didn't realize until watching this video is all the people he walked by....I guess no one thought someone wearing a ski mask with a trash can sized recycling bin was suspicious? 🤷♀️
For sure premeditated. Who brings a ski mask and gloves to school. I may be biased as a young almost first year teacher but I don’t see how someone could take someone’s kindness and care for her students and turn it into something so evil so so final.
I just thought about how much people are getting away with in a mask 😷 filled world… Hoddie and face mask cover so very much… Praying for her family 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@RachelShannon I don’t understand this business of serving sentences concurrently or consecutively. You said you were really confused on a variety in the sentencing decisions. Serving three sentences currently for example seems to have the effect of only serving 1/3 the prison time in total.
I felt the same exact way about the surveillance footage??? It’s so crazy to me how no one said anything to him or even saw him in the halls?? He had all that time to walk around the school and no one was even around? So crazy… RIP Colleen 🕯🤍
Had any student at my high school been seen rolling a recycling bin off the grounds, they would've been stopped and questioned as to what they were stealing that they needed a bin to carry it all.
I also think that placing so much emphasis on the mental illness is stigmatizing to the millions of people who live with mental illnesses and are no threat to anybody
I honestly don’t believe she’s trying to label everyone with mental illness as being dangerous. In this case however, the kid is definitely dangerous & is said to have suffered from mental illness.
This, as well. I've gone through some things that really messed me up. I know I have PTSD, among other things. Yet not once would I ever use my mental illness to hurt anyone else. Using mental illness to "excuse" harm to others is not a good look and needs to be stopped. There is HELP out there, freely available, all over the country.
This kid was 14 and comes from an environment that predisposed him to mental illness. If you talk about it with respect and educate yourself, you don’t have to talk about cases like this while stigmatizing people as a whole.
@@rxxrcousin I grew up in a far worse household than he did, thank you and I've struggled with mental illness my entire adult life. I've never even dreamed of doing something like this. I'm a nurse and educated on mental illness as well. I completely agree with the original comment. I've had enough of the bleeding heart, pity me attitude of "they need heeeeeelpp!" when someone commits horrible acts. Mental illness is very real, no one is disputing that but the bottom line is that's it's no excuse.
@@michelleprieur1 I didn't say nor imply that he should've gotten off free or less severely punished because he may have a mental illness. Comparing your circumstances to be like "see this, see that!" does not help the conversation around mental illness either. My point is that he was predisposed to mental illness. In cases like this, it will be continually brought up and my point was, it matters HOW we talk about it. Again, never did I say he shouldn't be punished for what he did nor is any presence of mental illness an excuse.
The fact that this lunatic will be released in his late 40’s worry me. What he did to his teacher and a staff at the facility where he is housed is alarming. I am sorry if a person can do something so heinous at age 14 y.o imagine what he is capable of once his brain fully develop! He is a serial killer in the making, when ever he is released in your area please carry protection and shoot on sight if he come near you!!!
Oh god this case is just so awful. I don't even know which part is worse, the fact that he seemed like a totally normal and no one suspected a thing, the girl who walked in during the act or the way he callously dumped her body and then went and watched three movies???? Like, what???
I just can't believe how easy it was for him to carry out the act not only in school but at the juvenile facility. It was saving grace that someone heard something and was able to save the woman in the locker. The parole board should know that he's a dangerous threat towards women based on those acts alone and should never let him out. I don't care if it's a CO (correctional officer) or a nurse or anyone, he should never be left alone with a woman EVER.
Agreed. The fact that he committed ANOTHER crime while in a FACILITY where he knows damn well he’s gonna get caught… that speaks volumes about his disregard for literally everyone.
I don't think mental illness caused this, I think he's evil. Mental illness doesn't usually cause people to be dangerously violent, and the ill people in his family never showed any violence. I think he is an incredible misogynist who couldn't stand to have this young woman in a position of power over him, and to have her see how he was struggling in her class. The premeditation and the way he tried to humiliate her makes me think that. To hell with his lawyers for feeding into the stigma about mental illness. Also, anybody who lives in this state: please consider getting that law changed, that allows someone to r~~e a dead person with no consequence.
@@nrmmom But I think you are arguing against a point I never made. I never said "it's impossible for psychotic people to be violent", I said that most mentally ill people are not violent, and that is true. And this guy could be ill, it's just my opinion that he's not, like _many_ other horrifically violent criminals who are not. (Sorry I took so long to respond - I just now saw this reply.)
He displayed just too much logical thinking and acting to be insane even if he was in poor mental health. What I've never understood in cases like these is how in the world doing something so horrific could be worth the consequences. If he's a psychopath and doesn't care about her, how could it be worth throwing away his own life? It's clear that prior thought was put into this and it was a prolonged attack, not some quick spur of the moment thing but never once did he find it not worth it.
the fact that they’re even trying to push the theory that it wasn’t premeditated is crazy to me! he had a whole bag.. gloves, a knife, a change of clothes, shoes.. what??
I'm glad his defense didn't work. Coleen was only trying to help him and he did that horrible stuff to her then tries to use insanity plea? What in the world! I'm so glad the jury saw through that plea and hopefully he can't hurt anyone else and cause more families pain.
This is one very disturbing case. My heart goes out to her family and students. Just horrendous. And you're quite right, when I was in school, they were always telling us to move along and not hang around. Grisly. This is one sick, twisted kid.
It makes me wonder if he had gotten into some legal trouble in Tennessee and his mom thinking that moving out of state would do him some good. Also the moving around in his younger years too.
That was my exact thought too!!! It seems that her bringing up Tennessee hit a nerve, and maybe he feared she was going to find out who he really was and all he had already done. I would love to know what all he'd gotten into prior to moving there too.
Thank you for another great video. Would you consider in the future featuring the case of Sharron Prior, the teenager from Montreal who was brutally murdered in 1975. Her killer was never caught and her mom is desperate for answers. Thank you 💙
I still can’t believe your channel hasn’t blown up yet! You are easily one of the best true crime UA-camrs I follow, always making sure to go above and beyond when researching a case. I’ve never been disappointed by one of your videos, best of luck Rachel and keep up the amazing work!
I'm so happy that the student that walked in the bathroom, didn't see what was actually going on. It's so different hearing what's happened to someone,then to actually seen it or experienced it....
@@neonnv1139 let's not play that game, please? The shoulda coulda woulda doesn't help. There's no evidence that she heard anything and even if she did, there's no way of knowing what may have happened.
Obviously. I was responding to the first comment. She said good thing she didn’t see, and I thought if she had seen it could’ve ended differently. We’re both imagining different scenarios and what could’ve been. Like she could’ve also been hurt if she had seen. So relax.
I see both sides to your comment and the replies. But I lean towards- thank goodness that poor student didn’t have to witness the act. I can’t even imagine how traumatized she already is, let alone seeing it actually happening.
And I’m sure she feels so guilty for not noticing what was really happening. She probably carries that around with her- knowing that if she noticed, she may have saved her life. But that’s not a healthy or constructive way of thinking. It’s so dangerous for her own mental health.
If it was a “psychotic break” he would not have done it again! He attacked the woman in the jail so it was not a random episode. The boy is a murderer and psychopath.
You mention him walking around after school but when I was in high school there were always a ton of kids wandering around after school. People working out, sitting in the halls doing homework. And I honestly don’t think anyone would have noticed at my school either. A lot of people got away with a lot of things there.
That seems like a misguided policy especially if you say a lot of bad stuff occurred. Someone should be walking around as a security guard and/or watching the monitors. I remember hall passes when I was a kid and that was during school hours. Seven for schools my grandkids have been in don’t even allow kids to have lockers. Sad world.
Wow! I live 20 minutes from where this happened and never heard this much detailed coverage on any of our local news outlets. Amazing coverage and research by you!
I don't know how anyone can defend people like this, I couldn't do that job knowing I could be putting someone like this in public on the streets with innocent people. Personally I think all these professionals that help try get them off should be a shamed of themselves.
I watched another report of this video that explained the last period of the day is a free period so students can study do homework or work with teachers. This is why he was able to wonder the school without being stopped.
SMH. He did the crime so he should do the time, all this """"OH, he doesn't understand etc etc""". He murdered someone and then left a letter saying """I hate you all"". Lock him up and throw away the key. For me, I'm a strong believer that, mental illness should not be apart of a trial, I strongly believe ppl are just born to kill. In my opinion, I find it very disrespectful to those with mental illness.... God Bless Colleen's family..
Agreed. I wish I would have stated this in the video but, I truly believe anyone who kills has a mental illness. But it’s so stigmatizing to those with mental illness who DONT hurt anyone and who just want to help themselves get better. What a bum ass excuse.
I definitely agree with you that it’s a dumb argument to for them to play mental illness. Obviously there is something wrong with him, but you wouldn’t check to see if the coast was clear and then glove up like a CSI if you were in a psychotic episode. A lot of people deal with mental illnesses every day and never hurt anyone.
I was on the receiving end of a schizophrenic for 30+ years of my life. In the moment they are truly terrifying. Once that’s done they literally can just carry on as normal as though nothing happened. I can also say they are very aware of what they have done.
I've seen this case in two other channels but you really brought new information that they didn't bring to light. I love your videos and how much you learn about the case and people you talk about. Great job on such a disturbing case.
Another good video Rachel. thank you for covering this tragic and disturbing case Colleen was such an amazing person I hope her family is able to find peace moving forward her memory is forever beloved like she was in life.
It makes me wonder If all of this kids life he had undiagnosed antisocial personality disorder or if he just snapped. It honestly scares me and blows my mind that people just flip like this. It’s hard to believe that’s the case here specially since there wasn’t really any confrontation or build up over time with her (not saying any victims deserve it) but usually you would see in a “snapping moment” long standing tumultuous relationships. Edit** spoke too soon didn’t know about the second girl of this case. 100% not a one off or snapped moment he’s a danger to the public.
Blah blah blah stop blaming some mental issues when in every step he took he knew exactly what he was doing. Sure was smart enough to do many many things to try to cover up what he did. His family knew a lot but didn't care one bit to show him right from wrong.
For his IQ test results to drop from above 50th percentile down to the 5th percentile he had to INTENTIONALLY get most of the questions wrong! There’s no other believable explanation. He had “above average intelligence” but he wasn’t smart enough to realise that he was handing the prosecution solid evidence that he was malingering!! 🤣😂🤣
@@helenavanheerden8455 I'm very sorry to hear that, I don't understand what you mean by "switched of the machines" but yes it's a very sad world sometimes, to have a relative or friend die in an accident or something is horrible but to have it be because of murder, it's just, I'm guess I'm very fortunate that I haven't had anybody close to me murdered
@@tinafoster8665 The guy shot him point blank while he was standing over him. He put in a big fight in the hopsital bit after about 3 days they declared him brain dead so we switched off the life support machines. The velocity of the bullet was too fast at the close range so the brain couldnt tear quick enough and it actually ripped pieces out
The funny thing is he never played load music at home as the article says as my Dad was and still is a retired school principle so he was always home but thats the news for you. Take the word of a cold blooded killer.
I hope Phillip gets passed around in prison. Total BS on the part of the defense. Phillips cleanup of the crime shows he knew exactly what he was doing. Phillip can rot.
People are not listening, this did not happen during school hours. She specifically asked him to stay after school to talk for a few minutes. That is why not many people are around or stopped him. Anyone seeing him push the recycle bin probably thought he specifically stayed after school to help with that kind of stuff. A lot of kids stay after school for different things (sports/makeup tests/tutoring etc), at this point a lot of teachers were probably already gone.
I used to live in Danvers and still have lots of family in the area. Watching this case through local media was frightening and so weird at the same time. Danvers High School was right down the road, and had I stayed living there (before we moved as a kid) I would've gone there, close enough to walk. That Hollywood Hits cinema is now out of business. Also Danvers (when Salem Village) decided to split from Salem proper, their petition to the King was refused. Danvers split from Salem anyway, and put the king's answer to the petition on the town's seal.
He needs to be in prison for life. The two 40 year sentences need to be served back to back equaling 80 years. There needed to be security and staff asking why he was there! So frustrating! And the recycling bin?? What?? Nobody said anything about all the blood?? What is going on? He had hardly any blood on him although I pray she was dead when put in that bin. AWFUL! He was “hateful” towards his mother…. he obviously had serious issues towards women. He treated his mother horribly and the killed a kind woman trying to help him and very carefully planned and executed a violent attack on another woman. He was NOT a nice kid. He was really awful. His poor mother! And the woman that survived his attack….. she is forever scarred as well. He’s just evil.
Rachel thanks for a great video. It’s heartbreaking. On a lighter note your look today reminds me a lot of Dorothy in The Wizard Of Oz with the pale blue shirt and braids. You most be a very strong young lady to cover these cases because they are so traumatic and sad. Great job and take care of your self. I know these have to get to you after awhile.
To me it's just crazy that he coming and going with the bin all over the school. Like what kind of school allows kids to leave and come back to the school like that? Anyway this kid deserves the electric chair, it's a shame our money goes to keep these people alive in jail. He has dead fish eyes, these kinds of people can't be reformed whatsoever.
It’s actually more expensive to keep someone on death row until their execution date with all the appeals they are afforded then it is for someone to serve life in prison! Crazy hey?!
I agree with you! 100%! It’s never okay to go out and murder someone. And people need to be protected from people that murder innocent people. We certainly don’t need more murderers around!
Somehow I've been abused by multiple teachers but never harmed any of them meanwhile this POS murdered his teacher for caring about him? He is the exact reason so many teachers stop caring or getting involved with their students lives. RIP Coleen se seems like a wonderful pperson
Not sure if anybody has addressed this yet, but the reason for his parole eligibility confusion is that the law changed two months after he was he charged with her murder. This was due to a state Supreme Court ruling on a separate case concerning a 17-year old.
I honestly don't get HOW this young person even pulled this off. He's on CCTV; he was walk in on by another student (but she promptly walked right back out); and there were so many other people outside the school and in the halls when he transported her out of the school. Why didn't anyone question him on why he was taking that black garbage bin into and out of the school?!? His lawyer said his client was 'suffering from psychosis' - did he really NOT know right from wrong or reality from whatever else? Give me a break! The kid was 14 years old and went to trial at 16; before all this, his family says he had behavioral problems - why not get him HELP back in the day?!? Massachusetts doesn't have a charge of 'Mutilation of a Dead Body' in their law books?! Unreal...I suppose it won't be added until something like this happens to one of theirs. You know what! Shame on the State, this kid's family (for knowing their family history and not paying attention to their kids) AND utter shame on this kid for doing what he knew what was wrong against Miss Ritzer! You know, IF this true crime story gets to the big screen - Anna Kendrick.
Does anyone know if he was charged/found guilty for the attack of the second woman? Also, I don't understand why the prosecution wasn't allowed to bring up the second attack, it's completely related to Colleen's case as it would prove intent and not a psychotic episode. Dude is a serial offender. Crazy this justice system of ours.
Omg all this camera footage is so eerie. The fact that it’s a literal CHILD doing all this is even worse. Absolutely baffling, and makes my stomach hurt. I believe he has a deep hatred for women because of his mother, even though she did nothing to cause it. This is common among murderers and killers of women, and his note that said “I hate you all” really proved that to me.
This monster deserves to spend the rest of his natural life in prison. You don't show up to school with a box cutter, gloves and changes of clothes without being a premeditated murderer. He premeditated this murder and he tried to play the mental health card. Bs. What a MONSTER.
Is that the case where there were signs along the trail warning people not to take this particular trail due to poisonous algae or something?? So crazy. Never heard of anything like it until that case. Very sad.
The fact that he put on gloves before he went in the bathroom tells me all I need to know about his so called mental illness
Mental illness does not mean you are not able to think, plan and function tho
@@witchfromthenorth5294 Yes, during a state of real psychosis the ability for executive function is severely limited if there at all which is why a person would be declared insane not knowing right or wrong. He was obviously capable of using executive functioning, organizing and premeditation.
Personally I think he fantasized about doing this over a long period and might have done things before not caught for. Might be part of the reason they moved states away, wish we had that information because a 14yr old does not create a "Murderkit" out of nowhere.
I was in high school in that state and could not walk to the bathroom without being asked for a pass, and we had teachers everywhere so made it real difficult to sneak around. Real surprised there was nobody there to ask him. It might not have stopped him from committing a crime like this but it would have stopped it from happening so easily inside the school.
ALSO- why were there not locked faculty bathrooms?? We had them and this was pre Columbine era for teachers- so many small things could have prevented this.
@@OffTheWagons true.. not all mental illnesses or severe psychocis works like that. Some are excellent planners
@@OffTheWagons During a state of real psychosis, a complex enough delusion can compel anyone to put on gloves. It just won’t be for any reason that makes sense.
@@OffTheWagons I wonder if he's done something like this before and was the reason for moving as well. Her mentioning where he used to live may have been the trigger to do it to her as well.
The way he left her body breaks my heart. When i look at her pictures her eyes seemed just so kind and full of life. Poor,poor woman...😞 may her lovely soul rest in peace.
I don’t understand how he was able to do all of this, while AT school, during classes…
This is absolutely horrific… rest in peace Colleen 🤍
Yes, it's horrific and it's a good question but this occurred after school hours so less people in the building but still doesn't explain how he was able to just wander unstopped.
This did NOT occur during classes. I remember hanging around after school for some kind of sports practice or wait for my parents who had to work later... Not many people around and people running around not a suspicious thing unfortunately 😟
@@leftoverhippies Yet people running around in blood stained clothes wheeling trash cans very suspicious .
it happend after school...
He did it after school so most of the kids were already home
"The girl." is a very creepy answer considering that she was a teacher, he a student. I wonder if it was his spontaneous answer or if he said it on purpose like deliberately disrespecting her authority. Both creepy anyways.
To me it maybe demonstrates a mental illness. A lack of understanding of figures, like a teacher vs student, can be a sign of something wrong going on. It’s definitely sick and creepy either way.
He’s a deplorable human being!
They said he had issues with his mother, so I wonder if it's a weird representation of her since he was targeting women that were older than him
The diminished mental health plea baffles me. He took multiple changes of clothes, brought the weapon to school, had multiple backpacks & he waited until after school to do all of this. This was premeditated. Poor Colleen she had no idea what a monster she had in her class.
I thought the exact same thing.
I read her friend teacher at same school she told her friend she did not know why he was in her classroom
It’s not premeditated when you are in psychosis. You are pretty much reactionary through out. Mentally, he was seeing his actions as normal behavior.
How he was able to just roll that dumpster through school, down the sidewalk, etc, like that was astounding to me. What a tragic loss of a loved teacher.
Right! How did no adult stop him & question him?!
We had kids walk pigs into our school for a senior prank animal control was so confused and the school officials so pissed that it ended the senior prank of the year.
@@masqueradebell2601 well, yeah... I mean, coming in with pigs isn't quite the same as walking out and away with a trash container like in this case.
@@masqueradebell2601 that's funny though 💯🤣
@@GenXfrom75 it is but really why does everybody keep harping on the trash bin? This to me is Philip's most ingenious improvisation, he probably felt like James Bond at the time, well except the time he was committing sexual sadism, then he felt more like dracula or something I don't even know who LOL and I shouldn't be laughing about it but it's just, I wonder why everybody keeps harping on the trash bin, doing what it looks like he's doing, moving some refuse somewhere, which is of course a horrible connection to make but there it is, this Philip kid was just nuts
This was 💯 pre-meditated murder. No “psychotic break” total bullshit. He should spend the rest of his life in prison, to pay his due for this awful awful crime, as well as keeping the rest of us safe. There is no way he won’t do it again if let out
Yes! I agree 100 percent!
I'm always somewhat hesitant when it comes to people with mental illness, but honestly Colleens murder seems premeditated - like how else do you have a pair of gloves ready? He was willing to kill someone, maybe wasn't set on her, but that only makes it all worse in my opinion. I would vote life in prison or medical facility. No parole.
He already did it again in custody! What a psycho. He can’t ever be let out without putting everyone at risk.
I agree with you a hundo
@@kyreeseq he was going to kill her for sure he had it all planned out
What was his excuse for attacking the female in the juvenile detention center? Did he have a episode again? I think he blames females(except his mother) for the infidelity that occurred with his father.
He left a note beside Colleens body saying: I hate you all.
Friends of him and family said he was always rude very disrespectful mean to his mother ! He blames her and other women for his dad's problem infidelity dvviolence and abuse of him.
what an incel
I suspect he would kill again if he was free.
I know he would 100%. His own behaviors proved that
He would have been a serial killer.
@@imanamusic2011 This was exactly my thought. Thank god he was arrested cause if he wasnt I too believe he would have been a serial killer
As soon as I saw the pic of him wearing the red soccer jersey at the beginning, I recognized this case. What I didn't realize until watching this video is all the people he walked by....I guess no one thought someone wearing a ski mask with a trash can sized recycling bin was suspicious? 🤷♀️
Exactly!! It’s insane
I was saying the same thing. Smh
For sure premeditated. Who brings a ski mask and gloves to school. I may be biased as a young almost first year teacher but I don’t see how someone could take someone’s kindness and care for her students and turn it into something so evil so so final.
He needs help but should never be released.
I just thought about how much people are getting away with in a mask 😷 filled world… Hoddie and face mask cover so very much… Praying for her family 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Heartbreaking, she just wanted to help this kid. I think he should get help but also not be allowed back in civilization. He took a life.
I agree 100%
This. Getting help won't make this go away. Treatment, yes. Release? Absolutely not.
@@RachelShannon I don’t understand this business of serving sentences concurrently or consecutively. You said you were really confused on a variety in the sentencing decisions. Serving three sentences currently for example seems to have the effect of only serving 1/3 the prison time in total.
I felt the same exact way about the surveillance footage??? It’s so crazy to me how no one said anything to him or even saw him in the halls?? He had all that time to walk around the school and no one was even around? So crazy… RIP Colleen 🕯🤍
Exactly!!
@@RachelShannon He changed clothes over and over, too! And did he think putting a hoodie over his face would make him invisible?
Had any student at my high school been seen rolling a recycling bin off the grounds, they would've been stopped and questioned as to what they were stealing that they needed a bin to carry it all.
The camera footage is chilling. 😞
It is, isn't it? :(
I also think that placing so much emphasis on the mental illness is stigmatizing to the millions of people who live with mental illnesses and are no threat to anybody
I honestly don’t believe she’s trying to label everyone with mental illness as being dangerous. In this case however, the kid is definitely dangerous & is said to have suffered from mental illness.
This, as well. I've gone through some things that really messed me up. I know I have PTSD, among other things. Yet not once would I ever use my mental illness to hurt anyone else. Using mental illness to "excuse" harm to others is not a good look and needs to be stopped. There is HELP out there, freely available, all over the country.
This kid was 14 and comes from an environment that predisposed him to mental illness. If you talk about it with respect and educate yourself, you don’t have to talk about cases like this while stigmatizing people as a whole.
@@rxxrcousin I grew up in a far worse household than he did, thank you and I've struggled with mental illness my entire adult life. I've never even dreamed of doing something like this. I'm a nurse and educated on mental illness as well. I completely agree with the original comment. I've had enough of the bleeding heart, pity me attitude of "they need heeeeeelpp!" when someone commits horrible acts. Mental illness is very real, no one is disputing that but the bottom line is that's it's no excuse.
@@michelleprieur1 I didn't say nor imply that he should've gotten off free or less severely punished because he may have a mental illness. Comparing your circumstances to be like "see this, see that!" does not help the conversation around mental illness either. My point is that he was predisposed to mental illness. In cases like this, it will be continually brought up and my point was, it matters HOW we talk about it. Again, never did I say he shouldn't be punished for what he did nor is any presence of mental illness an excuse.
The fact that this lunatic will be released in his late 40’s worry me. What he did to his teacher and a staff at the facility where he is housed is alarming. I am sorry if a person can do something so heinous at age 14 y.o imagine what he is capable of once his brain fully develop! He is a serial killer in the making, when ever he is released in your area please carry protection and shoot on sight if he come near you!!!
Hopefully he got life for the attempted murder of the staff member
Oh god this case is just so awful. I don't even know which part is worse, the fact that he seemed like a totally normal and no one suspected a thing, the girl who walked in during the act or the way he callously dumped her body and then went and watched three movies???? Like, what???
I just can't believe how easy it was for him to carry out the act not only in school but at the juvenile facility. It was saving grace that someone heard something and was able to save the woman in the locker. The parole board should know that he's a dangerous threat towards women based on those acts alone and should never let him out. I don't care if it's a CO (correctional officer) or a nurse or anyone, he should never be left alone with a woman EVER.
Agreed. The fact that he committed ANOTHER crime while in a FACILITY where he knows damn well he’s gonna get caught… that speaks volumes about his disregard for literally everyone.
@@RachelShannon You couldn't have said it better. Exactly right on. He's a narcissist psychopath.
I don't think mental illness caused this, I think he's evil. Mental illness doesn't usually cause people to be dangerously violent, and the ill people in his family never showed any violence. I think he is an incredible misogynist who couldn't stand to have this young woman in a position of power over him, and to have her see how he was struggling in her class. The premeditation and the way he tried to humiliate her makes me think that. To hell with his lawyers for feeding into the stigma about mental illness.
Also, anybody who lives in this state: please consider getting that law changed, that allows someone to r~~e a dead person with no consequence.
It's is 100 % possible for someone to be violent while psychotic. However I still think he should never be able to walk free.
@@nrmmom But I think you are arguing against a point I never made. I never said "it's impossible for psychotic people to be violent", I said that most mentally ill people are not violent, and that is true. And this guy could be ill, it's just my opinion that he's not, like _many_ other horrifically violent criminals who are not.
(Sorry I took so long to respond - I just now saw this reply.)
I think all murderers are mentally ill (wether in short term or long term) but not all severely mentally ill people are murderers.
Cases like this give the shy, loner kid a bad name. So evil. Also, this is probably the first case I’ve seen with really good surveillance video!
He displayed just too much logical thinking and acting to be insane even if he was in poor mental health. What I've never understood in cases like these is how in the world doing something so horrific could be worth the consequences. If he's a psychopath and doesn't care about her, how could it be worth throwing away his own life? It's clear that prior thought was put into this and it was a prolonged attack, not some quick spur of the moment thing but never once did he find it not worth it.
the fact that they’re even trying to push the theory that it wasn’t premeditated is crazy to me! he had a whole bag.. gloves, a knife, a change of clothes, shoes.. what??
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I can’t imagine her family having to hear all this. Horrible. God bless her and her family.
I'm glad his defense didn't work. Coleen was only trying to help him and he did that horrible stuff to her then tries to use insanity plea? What in the world! I'm so glad the jury saw through that plea and hopefully he can't hurt anyone else and cause more families pain.
This is one very disturbing case. My heart goes out to her family and students. Just horrendous. And you're quite right, when I was in school, they were always telling us to move along and not hang around. Grisly. This is one sick, twisted kid.
When you said a tree branch had been inserted into her I immediately gasped omg 😢
@Paul Miller why is it even reasonable for society to allow such grizzly movies?? “Artistic license?“ “Freedom of expression?”
He should of received the death penalty for those crimes in my opinion.
I don’t understand how his family can stand behind him so adamantly when he’s done such abhorrent things..
This case makes me sick to my stomach! All I can think about is her poor parents having to sit in that courtroom listening to all of this 🥺💔
It makes me wonder if he had gotten into some legal trouble in Tennessee and his mom thinking that moving out of state would do him some good. Also the moving around in his younger years too.
I wonder the same thing! Her mentioning where he moved from/where he's commited the same crime may have been the trigger for him to do it again.
That was my exact thought too!!! It seems that her bringing up Tennessee hit a nerve, and maybe he feared she was going to find out who he really was and all he had already done. I would love to know what all he'd gotten into prior to moving there too.
I thought the same thing like maybe he was accused of assaulting a girl but no charges were filed or something like that
This is horrendous. Every single thing about this case made my hair stand on end. RIP Colleen.
Oh, yes, I am overly familiar with this horrible tragedy, so I won't be watching again, but will be giving a thumbs up! C ya in the next one.
I just watched another youtuber tell this same story. They are all telling the same cases.
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This story is heart wrenching. My heart goes out to Colleen’s friends and family. I hope she has peace.
Thank you for another great video. Would you consider in the future featuring the case of Sharron Prior, the teenager from Montreal who was brutally murdered in 1975. Her killer was never caught and her mom is desperate for answers. Thank you 💙
Oh I don’t think ninja’s forcefully insert branches in womens you-know-whats. Good grief.
This is the most in depth video I have seen on this case...great job ..thank you!
I agree! Very well researched!
Oh he knew exactly what he was doing!! He sure knew to cover his head. He sure knew to get a big bin! He didn't have no mental issues! Baloney!
I still can’t believe your channel hasn’t blown up yet! You are easily one of the best true crime UA-camrs I follow, always making sure to go above and beyond when researching a case. I’ve never been disappointed by one of your videos, best of luck Rachel and keep up the amazing work!
Aw thank you so much!❤️
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That kid brought multiple changes of clothes, gloves and a box cutter to school that day; it had *premeditated* written all over it.
I don’t see how there can even be an argument about this being premeditated…
I'm so happy that the student that walked in the bathroom, didn't see what was actually going on. It's so different hearing what's happened to someone,then to actually seen it or experienced it....
She may have been able to scream and save her though :/
@@neonnv1139 let's not play that game, please? The shoulda coulda woulda doesn't help. There's no evidence that she heard anything and even if she did, there's no way of knowing what may have happened.
Obviously. I was responding to the first comment. She said good thing she didn’t see, and I thought if she had seen it could’ve ended differently. We’re both imagining different scenarios and what could’ve been. Like she could’ve also been hurt if she had seen. So relax.
I see both sides to your comment and the replies. But I lean towards- thank goodness that poor student didn’t have to witness the act. I can’t even imagine how traumatized she already is, let alone seeing it actually happening.
And I’m sure she feels so guilty for not noticing what was really happening. She probably carries that around with her- knowing that if she noticed, she may have saved her life. But that’s not a healthy or constructive way of thinking. It’s so dangerous for her own mental health.
If it was a “psychotic break” he would not have done it again! He attacked the woman in the jail so it was not a random episode. The boy is a murderer and psychopath.
I just am so shocked how someone so young can do something so evil
It is, but at 14 this kid is as big as most 17-20 guys, not real built but still powerful
There was definitely negligence on the part of the school and their security staff.
You mention him walking around after school but when I was in high school there were always a ton of kids wandering around after school. People working out, sitting in the halls doing homework. And I honestly don’t think anyone would have noticed at my school either. A lot of people got away with a lot of things there.
That seems like a misguided policy especially if you say a lot of bad stuff occurred. Someone should be walking around as a security guard and/or watching the monitors. I remember hall passes when I was a kid and that was during school hours. Seven for schools my grandkids have been in don’t even allow kids to have lockers. Sad world.
Wow! I live 20 minutes from where this happened and never heard this much detailed coverage on any of our local news outlets. Amazing coverage and research by you!
how is he so bold to do that with all of those cameras?!
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OMG HOW HORRIFIC!!! This kid has some serious issues and in need of extreme intervention. R.I.P Colleen 🙏
I feel like I’ve seen this case covered many many times and yet you brought up a bunch of details I did not know about. Excellent work.
I don't know how anyone can defend people like this, I couldn't do that job knowing I could be putting someone like this in public on the streets with innocent people. Personally I think all these professionals that help try get them off should be a shamed of themselves.
I watched another report of this video that explained the last period of the day is a free period so students can study do homework or work with teachers. This is why he was able to wonder the school without being stopped.
Good to know. Thank you for letting me know, I hadn’t heard that detail.
Oooo when he said "the girl".... Oooo the rage I felt at that
SMH. He did the crime so he should do the time, all this """"OH, he doesn't understand etc etc""". He murdered someone and then left a letter saying """I hate you all"". Lock him up and throw away the key.
For me, I'm a strong believer that, mental illness should not be apart of a trial, I strongly believe ppl are just born to kill. In my opinion, I find it very disrespectful to those with mental illness.... God Bless Colleen's family..
Agreed. I wish I would have stated this in the video but, I truly believe anyone who kills has a mental illness. But it’s so stigmatizing to those with mental illness who DONT hurt anyone and who just want to help themselves get better. What a bum ass excuse.
@@RachelShannon For sure. SMH.
I definitely agree with you that it’s a dumb argument to for them to play mental illness. Obviously there is something wrong with him, but you wouldn’t check to see if the coast was clear and then glove up like a CSI if you were in a psychotic episode. A lot of people deal with mental illnesses every day and never hurt anyone.
I was on the receiving end of a schizophrenic for 30+ years of my life. In the moment they are truly terrifying. Once that’s done they literally can just carry on as normal as though nothing happened. I can also say they are very aware of what they have done.
I've seen this case in two other channels but you really brought new information that they didn't bring to light. I love your videos and how much you learn about the case and people you talk about. Great job on such a disturbing case.
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Another good video Rachel. thank you for covering this tragic and disturbing case Colleen was such an amazing person I hope her family is able to find peace moving forward her memory is forever beloved like she was in life.
I'll say this, Philip's attorney defended him with great zealousness even though he didn't deserve it. I'd want that attorney defending me, too.
Not me... He lost 😂😂😂
He thinks he is being sneaky going in and out changing all the time but it just makes him look totally guilty and not in the "oops accident" kinda way
Good job, young Lady. Very thorough, clearly spoken, with good volume.
It makes me wonder If all of this kids life he had undiagnosed antisocial personality disorder or if he just snapped. It honestly scares me and blows my mind that people just flip like this. It’s hard to believe that’s the case here specially since there wasn’t really any confrontation or build up over time with her (not saying any victims deserve it) but usually you would see in a “snapping moment” long standing tumultuous relationships.
Edit** spoke too soon didn’t know about the second girl of this case. 100% not a one off or snapped moment he’s a danger to the public.
plus he seemed to have planned it, considering the supplies he brought with him to school and math class that day.
@@mola.s yes I hadn’t gotten that far when I made my comment. Completely planned! So sad for the victim.
Blah blah blah stop blaming some mental issues when in every step he took he knew exactly what he was doing. Sure was smart enough to do many many things to try to cover up what he did. His family knew a lot but didn't care one bit to show him right from wrong.
For his IQ test results to drop from above 50th percentile down to the 5th percentile he had to INTENTIONALLY get most of the questions wrong! There’s no other believable explanation.
He had “above average intelligence” but he wasn’t smart enough to realise that he was handing the prosecution solid evidence that he was malingering!! 🤣😂🤣
Hi from Ireland......love listening to your voice it's so soothing
Thanks for posting this. I've never heard this told with so much information.
Our world is sickening. My brother was murdered by a 65 year old ex neighbour. We switched of the machines 2 days before his 19th birthday.
Prayers 🙏 n condolences hugshugshugs ❤️
@@tinafoster8665 It happened back in 2013. Unfortunately his birthday was the 2nd December and my partners is the 4th December so.
@@helenavanheerden8455 I'm very sorry to hear that, I don't understand what you mean by "switched of the machines" but yes it's a very sad world sometimes, to have a relative or friend die in an accident or something is horrible but to have it be because of murder, it's just, I'm guess I'm very fortunate that I haven't had anybody close to me murdered
@@tinafoster8665 The guy shot him point blank while he was standing over him. He put in a big fight in the hopsital bit after about 3 days they declared him brain dead so we switched off the life support machines.
The velocity of the bullet was too fast at the close range so the brain couldnt tear quick enough and it actually ripped pieces out
The funny thing is he never played load music at home as the article says as my Dad was and still is a retired school principle so he was always home but thats the news for you. Take the word of a cold blooded killer.
Missed u hun. Glad to see u. Hope all is well
I hope Phillip gets passed around in prison. Total BS on the part of the defense. Phillips cleanup of the crime shows he knew exactly what he was doing. Phillip can rot.
First time I’ve come across your videos. Totally enjoy watching the whole video! Subscribed immediately! Your doing great job!! Kudos to you girl!👏👍
How the f**** did all of this happen in a school in the middle of the day ???? Where is everyone? I don't get it
People are not listening, this did not happen during school hours. She specifically asked him to stay after school to talk for a few minutes. That is why not many people are around or stopped him. Anyone seeing him push the recycle bin probably thought he specifically stayed after school to help with that kind of stuff. A lot of kids stay after school for different things (sports/makeup tests/tutoring etc), at this point a lot of teachers were probably already gone.
Thanks Rachel! Keep up the great work
I used to live in Danvers and still have lots of family in the area. Watching this case through local media was frightening and so weird at the same time. Danvers High School was right down the road, and had I stayed living there (before we moved as a kid) I would've gone there, close enough to walk. That Hollywood Hits cinema is now out of business. Also Danvers (when Salem Village) decided to split from Salem proper, their petition to the King was refused. Danvers split from Salem anyway, and put the king's answer to the petition on the town's seal.
He needs to be in prison for life. The two 40 year sentences need to be served back to back equaling 80 years. There needed to be security and staff asking why he was there! So frustrating! And the recycling bin?? What?? Nobody said anything about all the blood?? What is going on? He had hardly any blood on him although I pray she was dead when put in that bin. AWFUL! He was “hateful” towards his mother…. he obviously had serious issues towards women. He treated his mother horribly and the killed a kind woman trying to help him and very carefully planned and executed a violent attack on another woman. He was NOT a nice kid. He was really awful. His poor mother! And the woman that survived his attack….. she is forever scarred as well. He’s just evil.
Rachel, thanks for the additional footage. The other teammates from the soccer team is new to me.
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Rachel thanks for a great video. It’s heartbreaking. On a lighter note your look today reminds me a lot of Dorothy in The Wizard Of Oz with the pale blue shirt and braids. You most be a very strong young lady to cover these cases because they are so traumatic and sad. Great job and take care of your self. I know these have to get to you after awhile.
He was worried that she found out about the dead body he left in Tennessee
This is such a sad case. A wonderful teacher slain by one of her students. What a tragedy.
To me it's just crazy that he coming and going with the bin all over the school.
Like what kind of school allows kids to leave and come back to the school like that?
Anyway this kid deserves the electric chair, it's a shame our money goes to keep these people alive in jail.
He has dead fish eyes, these kinds of people can't be reformed whatsoever.
You can say that about all cold-hearted murderers. They all kinda deserve to die...
It’s actually more expensive to keep someone on death row until their execution date with all the appeals they are afforded then it is for someone to serve life in prison! Crazy hey?!
Dead fish eyes, accurate cuz weirdos like this ONLY show emotion when doing violence or sadism
No fan of “True Crime” can get-away with claiming that they don’t understand their legal rights! 😉
No law against necrophilia!? Good grief...
It varies by state. Some states that would definitely be abuse of a corpse
When I read that my face straight up was 😦 bc it absolutely should be a crime in every single state
@@virginiawu3177 it’s criminal sexual act and it’s considered a misdemeanor here in NYC goes for dead bodies or animals .
Finally joined your Patreon! So excited! You’re one of the best!!!!
Aw thank you so much! 🥺 I appreciate you
Hi Rachel:) can’t wait to watch this later 💕
Wow I can't believe I hadn’t heard of this case before
He seemed like a future serial killer, I'm glad they caught him early.
I love your pigtails, Rachel 😍
What was his sentence for the attempted murder of the staff member at the facility he was at while awaiting trial for Colleen’s murder?
Phillip is so sick poor colleen got killed by him 😯. I dont get why no one stop him wit the bin. How know one found it strange
I agree with you! 100%! It’s never okay to go out and murder someone. And people need to be protected from people that murder innocent people. We certainly don’t need more murderers around!
Somehow I've been abused by multiple teachers but never harmed any of them meanwhile this POS murdered his teacher for caring about him? He is the exact reason so many teachers stop caring or getting involved with their students lives. RIP Coleen se seems like a wonderful pperson
Your content helps me get through quarantine :(
Not sure if anybody has addressed this yet, but the reason for his parole eligibility confusion is that the law changed two months after he was he charged with her murder. This was due to a state Supreme Court ruling on a separate case concerning a 17-year old.
What a monster, so evil with no humanity. He thought that trying to avoid the cameras and changing his clothes would fool people
I honestly don't get HOW this young person even pulled this off. He's on CCTV; he was walk in on by another student (but she promptly walked right back out); and there were so many other people outside the school and in the halls when he transported her out of the school. Why didn't anyone question him on why he was taking that black garbage bin into and out of the school?!? His lawyer said his client was 'suffering from psychosis' - did he really NOT know right from wrong or reality from whatever else? Give me a break! The kid was 14 years old and went to trial at 16; before all this, his family says he had behavioral problems - why not get him HELP back in the day?!? Massachusetts doesn't have a charge of 'Mutilation of a Dead Body' in their law books?! Unreal...I suppose it won't be added until something like this happens to one of theirs. You know what! Shame on the State, this kid's family (for knowing their family history and not paying attention to their kids) AND utter shame on this kid for doing what he knew what was wrong against Miss Ritzer! You know, IF this true crime story gets to the big screen - Anna Kendrick.
Thank you Rachel.
Does anyone know if he was charged/found guilty for the attack of the second woman? Also, I don't understand why the prosecution wasn't allowed to bring up the second attack, it's completely related to Colleen's case as it would prove intent and not a psychotic episode. Dude is a serial offender. Crazy this justice system of ours.
My mouth was open from the beginning to the end of this video!! I cannot believe this kid!!!!!!!
Omg all this camera footage is so eerie. The fact that it’s a literal CHILD doing all this is even worse. Absolutely baffling, and makes my stomach hurt.
I believe he has a deep hatred for women because of his mother, even though she did nothing to cause it. This is common among murderers and killers of women, and his note that said “I hate you all” really proved that to me.
This monster deserves to spend the rest of his natural life in prison. You don't show up to school with a box cutter, gloves and changes of clothes without being a premeditated murderer. He premeditated this murder and he tried to play the mental health card. Bs. What a MONSTER.
Please do a story on the 2 hikers, their baby daughter and their dog that mysteriously died on a hiking trail in Yosmite last week
Is that the case where there were signs along the trail warning people not to take this particular trail due to poisonous algae or something?? So crazy. Never heard of anything like it until that case. Very sad.
@@jamiemiesler322 yeah I believe so. They probably did die from poisoning
Hey Rach, the braids look good doll, I still must admit that I enjoy the sound of your voice
This case is so heartbreaking 💔
Love your hair style. He knew what he was doing and glad Collean got justice and his in prison.Thanks 👍 for sharing.✨☄️🌫️🌌