What is Gruel?

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  • @theuser810
    @theuser810 2 роки тому +6219

    I like how this channel includes the history of ordinary people rather than exclusively nobles and kings.

    • @lesterstone8595
      @lesterstone8595 2 роки тому +177

      or movie stars. That's where the History Channel went all wrong.

    • @scottydu81
      @scottydu81 2 роки тому +86

      @@lesterstone8595 Max does Commoners, Nobles, King, and movie stars 🙂

    • @ShiroNoOokami
      @ShiroNoOokami 2 роки тому +148

      It really takes effort, too, since most of the cookbooks and other records that survive were relevant only to monks or nobility.

    • @MrMousetang
      @MrMousetang 2 роки тому +85

      Who would've thought that peasants also eat

    • @jordinagel1184
      @jordinagel1184 2 роки тому +55

      A great rebuttal of the typical “Great Persons” theory so many people want to apply to history

  • @kellydalstok8900
    @kellydalstok8900 Рік тому +1095

    The reason Oliver Twist asks for some more gruel is that the portions were too small for a growing child. It was quite common in those days to feed people according to the amount of work they did. This meant that young children and sick people received very little food, which resulted in starvation and more illness.

    • @bobjohnson1633
      @bobjohnson1633 Рік тому +125

      Maybe they should work harder.

    • @seanwieland9763
      @seanwieland9763 5 місяців тому +215

      @@bobjohnson1633the children yearn for the mines. ⛏️

    • @davefletch3063
      @davefletch3063 5 місяців тому +40

      You mean Oliver wasnt just being greedy?

    • @giordanodsouza9563
      @giordanodsouza9563 5 місяців тому +79

      ​@@davefletch3063 What a... Twist😮

    • @R.J.theGentleman
      @R.J.theGentleman 5 місяців тому +52

      Also what I sensed.. he was just hungry
      Pleading for food, out of sheer hunger 😔

  • @patsilverfang
    @patsilverfang Рік тому +522

    I 've wondered what gruel was for years! Now it makes sense, its a ground grain soup. Grind rice = congee, grind oats = gruel, grind corn = grits.

    • @markholmphotography
      @markholmphotography Рік тому +21

      Except gruel is whole oats cut not ground - which is why he said “steel cut oats”

    • @praline2x
      @praline2x Рік тому +8

      The recipe he quotes states oatmeal. This is finally ground porridge oats.

    • @zxyatiywariii8
      @zxyatiywariii8 Рік тому +21

      Am I the only one who loves making non-instant oatmeal as if it were instant? Steel cut oatmeal, mix with boiling water, stir, let it sit, then eat.
      It's chewy and satisfying, I prefer it to regularly cooked oatmeal, which can be too mushy.

    • @notamouse5630
      @notamouse5630 Рік тому +14

      Congee is not ground.

    • @colinschaeffer3940
      @colinschaeffer3940 Рік тому +10

      Grits are what's left after grinding hominy. Ground corn is cornmeal/polenta.

  • @WhisperdaleD
    @WhisperdaleD Рік тому +365

    Gruel is seriously underrated. I still eat it a lot - though without brandy, and usually cinnamon and some caramelized apple chunks from our tree outside. It doesn't keep you full for long, but if you need something hot in you or something to take the edge off being hungry without committing to a proper meal it's good stuff. You can also throw in leftovers and various spices to make a sort of grainy stew, it's very good.

    • @Katharina-rp7iq
      @Katharina-rp7iq Рік тому +6

      Seriously? There are porridge restaurants and you can buy a dozen ready made types of porridge even in small supermakets. It's one of the more popular breakfast dishes.

    • @zxyatiywariii8
      @zxyatiywariii8 Рік тому +10

      I agree. I prefer it savory (I don't have a sweet tooth, I have a spice tooth) so I love sprinkling in some dried jalapeños or habañeros, along with salt and sometimes almonds or other seasonal nuts.

    • @kathleennorton7913
      @kathleennorton7913 11 місяців тому +4

      I like it with cardamom, cinnamon, vanilla and butter.
      I'm a great fan of cardamom.

    • @Padraigp
      @Padraigp 11 місяців тому +5

      You havw a caramelized apple tree 😲 thats awesome!

    • @TheRealMycanthrope
      @TheRealMycanthrope 4 місяці тому +13

      ​@@Katharina-rp7iqporridge restaurants? Where the hell are you from that they have porridge restaurants?

  • @geoffreygautieri521
    @geoffreygautieri521 2 роки тому +797

    Max Miller: The first thing that hits you is the nutmeg.
    Jon Townsend: Say more right now!

    • @Script_Mak3r
      @Script_Mak3r 2 роки тому +62

      I thought of him as soon as nutmeg was listed as an ingredient.

    • @resourcedragon
      @resourcedragon 2 роки тому +23

      As soon as the nutmeg was introduced I thought that Townsends ought to be involved!

    • @garethaethwy
      @garethaethwy 2 роки тому +60

      Do you think if we say "nutmeg" three times Jon Townsend magically appears?

    • @joshuamartindale868
      @joshuamartindale868 2 роки тому +32

      Jon Townsend and Max Miller need to collaborate in a video

    • @votepurple
      @votepurple 2 роки тому +8

      Crazy as seeing further in the past these spices were reserved for the rich

  • @Shayna11NM
    @Shayna11NM 2 роки тому +1708

    You just sparked some great memories with this video. My Grandma made the best oatmeal. Always cooked with milk, served with butter, raisins, brown sugar and a textured, ceramic milk cow pitcher on the table.
    When she passed her estate planner was amused to tell us that of all the 20+ grandkids and great grandkids, every one of us, asked for that pitcher. Not jewelry, not money. Lol, we all wanted that ceramic cow that showed up every breakfast at Grandma's house. ❤️

    • @mariejuana2993
      @mariejuana2993 2 роки тому +124

      Thats so heartwarming 😭 So who got the pitcher? Im lowkey hoping you all have a cycle where it gets passed from the current user to the next user at family gatherings.

    • @Shayna11NM
      @Shayna11NM 2 роки тому +190

      @@mariejuana2993 It went to the oldest grandchild, Susan. I was the youngest grandchild and was born within years of the great grandkids. I don't know what's happened to it in the past 23 years, but I can still see it clearly in my mind and know exactly how it felt under my fingers. (I still look for the same one on eBay and at thrift stores. 😊)

    • @Shayna11NM
      @Shayna11NM 2 роки тому +216

      @@mariejuana2993 Also, in lieu of the pitcher, I received a small cash settlement from from Grandma's estate. That same month my dog was diagnosed with breast cancer. My Grandma's money paid for a mammary chain resection (in humans a mastectomy) and gave her 5 more healthy years with my family. ❤️

    • @mysmirandam.6618
      @mysmirandam.6618 2 роки тому +11

      Awwwww

    • @mysmirandam.6618
      @mysmirandam.6618 2 роки тому +16

      @@Shayna11NM awwww!!

  • @Hannah_Becton
    @Hannah_Becton Рік тому +557

    I'm a Southerner. Grits is obviously a huge cultural dish for us, and it's what my mind immediately jumped to when you gave a definition of gruel at the beginning of the history segment. Hearing that gruel comes from the word "grut"... Grut, grits... Needless to say, my mind got blown wide open.

    • @KrasMazovHatesYourGuts
      @KrasMazovHatesYourGuts Рік тому +60

      Grits is something we take so seriously because it's the one thing we ALL eat down here. White, black, rich, poor and everything in between, we ALL eat grits.

    • @maidenminnesota1
      @maidenminnesota1 Рік тому +37

      Grut, grits or grist, which simply means "grain".

    • @ReggieArford
      @ReggieArford Рік тому +13

      @@maidenminnesota1 Or "groats", perhaps?

    • @Crowski
      @Crowski Рік тому +6

      Man I love grits. Didnt even know it was a southern thing till I got older. LOL

    • @Yabbadabbadoe
      @Yabbadabbadoe Рік тому +6

      It’s a staple here in the west too!! Settlers brought it with them during the westward expansion!!

  •  Рік тому +255

    Oliver Twist wanted some more because he was hungry, as all of them were. 😢 Charles Dickens’ himself was sent to a workhouse when hi father died and his mother had to remarry. Much of the account of Dickens in Oliver Twist was taken from his own experience. Gruel may not be bad and be tasty, but imagine having it all-the-time and only in small quantities. Life in the workhouse was really terrible and worse than a prison, indeed, with the difference that in the workhouse they had the option to leave at will. But was that really an option? I love your channel, Max, and the way it is presented. It’s a gem packed with knowledge, interesting historical bites, and utterly enjoyable. The historical recipes just add that spice to it all. ❤

    • @yippee8570
      @yippee8570 Рік тому +32

      You weren't allowed to leave unless you had somewhere to go, i.e. a job, so it was a lot like prison. That's why people were so afraid of ending up there.

    • @phillipaburgess5601
      @phillipaburgess5601 Рік тому +29

      Dicken's father was in debtor's prison and Dickens had to work in a bootblack factory starting at age 12. His mother would not let him stop work at the bootblack factory for some time after his father inherited enough money to pay the debt and be release.

    • @bobjohnson1633
      @bobjohnson1633 Рік тому +6

      A leather belt tastes good when you're starving. Watery oatmeal isn't that bad

    • @dexine4723
      @dexine4723 Рік тому +21

      My great-great-grandfather and his siblings ended up in the workhouse in the 1850's, after their mother and another sibling died of starvation (this was in England, in one of the slums). I got hold of the records from that workhouse, and it looked like a pretty tough regime, with long days of hard work and lots of punishments doled out for even slight transgressions, usually involving no food being given, or bread/water only.

    • @edwinreid8355
      @edwinreid8355 Рік тому +6

      And he drew the shortest piece of string. Poor Oliver.

  • @hrefna1606
    @hrefna1606 2 роки тому +675

    My grandmother used to make gruel for us when we stayed at her house. Very thin porridge made with milk, a tiny spot of sugar and nutmeg or cinnamon. We had special cups from which to drink it. She was adamant it helped us to sleep and warded off what she called night starvation. A terrifying sounding condition which she said would lead to all manner of physical and mental ills in later life.

    • @geegeelast7597
      @geegeelast7597 5 місяців тому +23

      One of my friends grew up eating gruel. He said it was good.

    • @TheRealMycanthrope
      @TheRealMycanthrope 4 місяці тому +64

      Grandma was just trying to help you secure gains by keeping you from going catabolic overnight 😆

    • @Legohaiden
      @Legohaiden 4 місяці тому +81

      Grandma's house... if you get hungry, something dire has happened. There will be NO night starvation on Grandma's watch!

    • @DinnerForkTongue
      @DinnerForkTongue 4 місяці тому +38

      Doesn't sound bad, really. Like milk before bed, but reinforced.

    • @JohnMoseley
      @JohnMoseley 4 місяці тому +20

      I've heard it said that oats have some soporific effect. Milk definitely does.

  • @gljm
    @gljm 2 роки тому +1777

    In "A Christmas Carol" Dickens has Scrooge eating a bowl of gruel while sitting before the fire just before the appearance of the ghost of Marley. It is believed that Scrooge has a cold and is eating his gruel before bedtime for Medicinal purposes which as Max stated was a common practice in Victorian times . We know that Scrooge isn't eating it as his dinner as Dickens has already told us that Scrooge had already had is usual dinner at a tavern beforehand. Scrooge also suggests to Marley's ghost that he might be the result of "A bit of beef, a blot of mustard , a fragment of an underdone potato" which we must assume is what he consumed at the tavern before going home.

    • @jama211
      @jama211 2 роки тому +35

      Interesting, thank you!

    • @dianebusby7047
      @dianebusby7047 2 роки тому +21

      @@jama211 Oh yes, a Christmas Carol is my favourite Dickens story.

    • @Belgand
      @Belgand 2 роки тому +74

      It could also have been that, as also shown in the Titanic menu, Scrooge had eaten a more substantial meal earlier but was now having a light evening meal. A bit odd given his social class, but not completely unthinkable.

    • @kathleenhensley5951
      @kathleenhensley5951 2 роки тому +13

      Thought of that too. One of those scenes in English Literature that stick in the mind a lifetime.

    • @annamaria9073
      @annamaria9073 2 роки тому +46

      @@Belgand yeah but that would make sense the way that Scrooge likes to act like a broke boy

  • @leahhoddinott6736
    @leahhoddinott6736 Рік тому +50

    Thank you for the recipe! I made this for my husband for the first time today (he's going through chemo), and so far it is staying down so yaaaaay! :D

  • @DonutGuard
    @DonutGuard Рік тому +485

    You should do a crossover video with Townsends. That guy does all kinds of 18th century cooking and it would be awesome to see you two trying out different recipes together.

    • @PeachysMom
      @PeachysMom Рік тому +40

      They have done that, maybe 2yrs ago.

    • @DonutGuard
      @DonutGuard Рік тому +23

      @@PeachysMom incredible. Thanks!

    • @serenitymoon825
      @serenitymoon825 Рік тому +52

      Please sir, we would like another crossover

    • @DonutGuard
      @DonutGuard Рік тому +4

      @@serenitymoon825 lmao yesssss

    • @Mfields4517
      @Mfields4517 Рік тому

      Townsends is too political

  • @VegetaRabbit
    @VegetaRabbit 2 роки тому +703

    I call my son in to identify the Pokémon at the beginning of your videos, then trick him into learning history. Thank you for all the research you do.

    • @sarahallegra6239
      @sarahallegra6239 2 роки тому +38

      Clever parent here!

    • @tree427
      @tree427 2 роки тому +25

      huh, never noticed the pokemon in the background. this one is called muk, right?

    • @sageashton31
      @sageashton31 2 роки тому +32

      @@tree427 Grimer, actually

    • @tree427
      @tree427 2 роки тому +15

      @@sageashton31 man they look the same to me

    • @VegetaRabbit
      @VegetaRabbit 2 роки тому +40

      @@tree427 My son said it was a Grimer, but can evolve into a Muk.

  • @ataraxia1829
    @ataraxia1829 2 роки тому +886

    I think gruel maybe the most "misunderstood" dish in the entire history of food. Many modern dishes could be categorized as gruel, breakfast porridge and congee, as stated in the video, but also things like polenta, grits and risotto. Sure in "ye olde days" they might not have had access to as much spice and meat as we had, but even in medieval times they still could get a hand on certain dairy products, fruits and vegetable. The idea that somehow a farmer, who spent most of his day performing heavy duty labor, could somehow sustain his energy expenditure by eating a bowl of watery slime is ridiculous.

    • @barrymalkin4404
      @barrymalkin4404 2 роки тому +49

      Gruel can be an appetizing dish depending what's added to it. Perhaps the Little Rascals were too hasty throwing their gruau in the snooty French waiter's face.

    • @SuperLadyDanger
      @SuperLadyDanger 2 роки тому +65

      When he was explaining what gruel is in the beginning I thought, “so it’s like congee but with oats/oatmeal instead? Well that’s underwhelming!”

    • @revinaque1342
      @revinaque1342 2 роки тому +63

      Gruel was the food of the industrial revolution. Medieval peasants needed much more sustenance, and each person ate several pounds of bread in a day. This was dense bread, made of a variety of grains, and often eaten with pottage

    • @MsAngelique
      @MsAngelique 2 роки тому +39

      @@revinaque1342 And beer and pork too, for the Medieval peasants.

    • @emmitstewart1921
      @emmitstewart1921 2 роки тому +63

      I am remembering how many "hot cereals" I ate and loved as a child that were basically gruel. Malt-o-Meal, Quaker Oats, Cream of Wheat, Maypo, Ralston's Purina, Corn meal mush. I would eat and enjoy cold cereal, but I really loved cooked cereals.

  • @Mekelaina
    @Mekelaina Рік тому +62

    I've had this idea for a restaurant, that would serve various foods and dishes from the medieval, Renaissance and enlightenment eras. It would try to balance historical accuracy with modern tastes and availability. I thought of calling it "The Gruel and Grog"

    • @mrzoltanonwinter2218
      @mrzoltanonwinter2218 5 місяців тому +5

      Great Idea! Let me know when you open it, I will be a customer.

    • @RRsqx324
      @RRsqx324 2 місяці тому

      Such an amazing idea! I would definitely go. Please open it

  • @heftylad
    @heftylad 5 місяців тому +8

    We were taught in school here in the UK that whilst the government (or the beginnings of it) at the time felt obligated to provide the homeless with a place to eat and sleep, they often simply didn't need as many workers at most workhouses as there jobseekers. Not to mention, children, the elderly and sick people often couldn't really provide much help to workhouses already filled with hardworking, healthy people. They realised it was actually beneficial to them to keep a rotation of workers going to find the best ones, and as a result they actually tried to make the conditions in some workhouse WORSE than out on the streets, SPECIFICALLY so that people would not want to stay.

  • @williamreely3455
    @williamreely3455 2 роки тому +657

    In my eyes, "gruel" is a *type* of food, like "soup" or "salad", with a very wide variety of versions, ranging from oatmeal, to corn mush, to cream of wheat. Basically just an old catchall term for a thickened grain dish.

    • @TheWolfsnack
      @TheWolfsnack 2 роки тому +35

      ...sounds grueling....

    • @bachilles3285
      @bachilles3285 2 роки тому +12

      @@TheWolfsnack I see what you did there.

    • @valeriegarrity5773
      @valeriegarrity5773 2 роки тому +14

      I like making it with cream of wheat!

    • @spvillano
      @spvillano 2 роки тому +16

      @@valeriegarrity5773 corn mush is good too. Cream of wheat doesn't last long for me, 20 minutes later and I'm hungry again. Corn meal mush lasts longer, oatmeal even longer.
      Might try barley at some point, but that's mostly because I like barley.

    • @valeriegarrity5773
      @valeriegarrity5773 2 роки тому +3

      @@spvillano yeah, my mom used to make it.

  • @GreekRoyalty
    @GreekRoyalty 2 роки тому +333

    In the eastern Mediterranean world, there is an ancient food called trahana. It varies wildly but it's basically a way of preserving milk/yogurt with some kind of wheat or grain which is then dried and crumbled into like a gravel. It is a super peasant-food, a traditional farmer's breakfast. It's basically one of humanity's first instant meals where you just boil it with water and you have a meal. While found in many cultures, trahana is one of the most Greek foods you've probably never heard of.

    • @inserttext2412
      @inserttext2412 2 роки тому +30

      Apparently it's not just Greek, some variation of Trahana is present in Armenian, Albanian, and Turkish cuisine as well. The Turks add egg to the dough before drying

    • @Eviltwin531
      @Eviltwin531 2 роки тому +39

      Sounds like a Mediterranean version of hard tack *clack clack*.

    • @Julia-lk8jn
      @Julia-lk8jn 2 роки тому +13

      Hey, that sounds like the next "Tasting History" project.
      Because now I really want to learn how to make that, partly because it sounds very versatile (spices, nuts, dried fruit) and partly because the thought of "gravel + water = meal" is so alluring.

    • @oomflem
      @oomflem 2 роки тому +20

      Trahana is almost identical to Kishk, which is a similarly ancient staple in Lebanon, made by drying and grinding a combination of bulgur and fermented yoghurt. It's used to make an instant soup or porridge, but also used a bit like cheese as a poor man's stuffing and filling for flatbreads and pies, usually combined with spices and tomato paste and it's delicious. There's also an ancient vegan version made only out of fermented bulgur without the milk.
      The basic staple in the mountains pre-modernity was a soup made from Kishk, and 'Awarma, which is lamb confited in its own fat.

    • @oomflem
      @oomflem 2 роки тому +8

      Interesting detail I found reading a little further:
      "A 10th-century recipe for kishk recorded in the Kitab al-Tabikh was made by par-boiling dehulled wheat, milling it, and blending it with chickpea flour. Yeast, salt and water were added to make a dough from the flour, which was left in the sun for around 2 weeks, and re-moistened with sour yogurt (or sour grape juice) as needed. After 15 days the dough would be seasoned with mint, purslane, cilantro, rue, parsley, garlic and the leafy tops of leeks, shaped into disks, and allowed to dry in the sun."

  • @MarkCalise
    @MarkCalise Рік тому +35

    In the book, the reason Oliver asked for more was because all the kids needed more food. A few of the kids drew lots to get the gruel to split between them, and Oliver lost.

  • @alabamanana7155
    @alabamanana7155 Рік тому +15

    As a child my Nan made cornmeal gruel When we had colds it had a ton of onions boiled in chicken broth. If we had a stomach ache it had a wee bit of honey but NO milk. It was always very thin,
    . The cornmeal was first cooked dry in a cast iron pot, until lightly toasted. Then the water or broth was added.
    It was warming and comforting. I am now making it for my grandchildren and great grandchildren. I only hope they feel the same way I did when my Mum and Nan made it for me!

  • @sudonim7552
    @sudonim7552 2 роки тому +733

    It's so fascinating that gruel was considered a food for the ill back then because as a Chinese people, we still consider congee, which is essentially rice gruel as mentioned here, as a good food for when you are sick.

    • @deanagallatin6974
      @deanagallatin6974 2 роки тому +67

      I am from America southern part. My mom always made me rice gruel when I was having nausea, vomiting. She made it with cooked rice, small amount of milk, and sugar and butter. It was the best!

    • @hettar7
      @hettar7 2 роки тому +23

      Maybe I need to try to make congee myself. The only time I have had it is as an "asian breakfast" option on a plane ride from the US to Vietnam. It was not good ... and I've avoided it since.

    • @ericale9700
      @ericale9700 2 роки тому +38

      @@hettar7 its ridiculously easy to make! All you really need is water and rice, but make it with broth or other liquids to flavor it.

    • @hettar7
      @hettar7 2 роки тому +7

      @@ericale9700 do you have a recommendation for a good recipe for congee? I dont trust myself to make it without a recipe. 😅

    • @renanfelipedossantos5913
      @renanfelipedossantos5913 2 роки тому +28

      That's quite common, actually. In Brazil we have "canja de galinha" which is basically rice gruel cooked in chicken broth and it is also considered a nice treat for when one's sick.

  • @MrJacksjb
    @MrJacksjb 2 роки тому +441

    When my dad was a kid he lived in a rural community, the family only had one car so all the shopping got done on Saturday when my grandad was off work. He said sometimes on Friday for supper they would have cornmeal soup or grit soup for supper because everything else was used up. I asked him what that was and he responded grits with 10x too much water. I always imagined that to be the southern version of gruel.

    • @hermeticbear
      @hermeticbear 2 роки тому +50

      grits is gruel. Watered down grits is just water gruel.

    • @nancyzehr3679
      @nancyzehr3679 2 роки тому +15

      You gotta love grits, tho. It's what makes us Southern. Well, n some other stuff...

    • @pablodelsegundo9502
      @pablodelsegundo9502 2 роки тому +22

      Sounds accurate. Not too far off from Mexican atole, though we regard it as a drink rather than a food.

    • @Aaron-us2ux
      @Aaron-us2ux 2 роки тому

      I wonder if grits was served in the famous Southern "workhouses" 😏😂😂 (along with the dee-lish pig 🐖 leftovers😂🤣) Ya'all truly belong somewhere for having lazy multi-grandparents 🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @rondanakamura2655
      @rondanakamura2655 2 роки тому +3

      @@nancyzehr3679 Mmm cheese grits!

  • @Xmasta420
    @Xmasta420 Рік тому +19

    My grandma still makes something like this with corn starch called "maícena." it's a simple, sweet, and filling dish for breakfast when things were tough.

  • @michaeldowd8422
    @michaeldowd8422 Рік тому +11

    Gruel is what I now have to eat for my dinner since our energy prices went up.

  • @Lauren.E.O
    @Lauren.E.O 2 роки тому +806

    I like that gruel is a dish that can be either a pretty tasty meal or (sorry, it just popped into my head 😅) gruel and unusual punishment depending on the recipe used. 🍚

    • @lillianabaxter9125
      @lillianabaxter9125 2 роки тому +40

      Never apologize for excellence!

    • @Aaron-us2ux
      @Aaron-us2ux 2 роки тому +8

      ​@@lillianabaxter9125 I'll feed my workhouse ladies 🚺 only premium gruel.... on sundays..😏😂 thin - medium gruel the rest of the week, and you must apply to be considered 😏😂🤣😎

    • @dominionwargaming8638
      @dominionwargaming8638 2 роки тому +8

      @@Aaron-us2ux lmao wtf 😂 🤣

    • @masterimbecile
      @masterimbecile 2 роки тому +23

      Dad jokes is a GRUEL mistress

    • @Aaron-us2ux
      @Aaron-us2ux 2 роки тому +4

      @@dominionwargaming8638 also: you have brought cowboy hat pepe the frog 🐸 shame.😏😂😂

  • @TheFireMage100
    @TheFireMage100 2 роки тому +282

    One reason they might have used quotations around their words is that quotations were used for emphasis like italics but before italics were really a thing. Older people in the UK still do it and being told that someone "loved" your card you sent them still feels like passive aggression to me

    • @Nightriser271828
      @Nightriser271828 2 роки тому +26

      I think it's because italics are a bit difficult to write by hand, especially if cursive handwriting, which is a bit slanted anyway, is the norm as it was back then.

    • @slwrabbits
      @slwrabbits 2 роки тому +12

      This explains SO MUCH.

    • @dianagreene4257
      @dianagreene4257 2 роки тому +9

      I never knew this! I thought there were just tons of people who couldn't tell the difference between emphasis and sarcasm.

    • @homelessrobot
      @homelessrobot 2 роки тому +11

      @@Nightriser271828 they are also a bit difficult to write on a keyboard, seeing as there is no italics button. I could do *this* or **this** or _this_ or /this/ but who the hell can remember which markup works in which situation?

    • @natsinthebelfry
      @natsinthebelfry 2 роки тому +11

      Older people still do this in the United States, too. My grandma would always send me cards wishing me a "happy" birthday!

  • @BierBart12
    @BierBart12 Рік тому +22

    In Germany, the yoghurt/puddings store shelf is also accompanied by a kind of gruel after this definition.
    Grießbrei(semolina gruel), which is a mix of semolina, sugar, cinnamon, vanilla and milk. There are also finished mixes that you heat up on the stove with water or milk and eat hot.
    Apparently, gruel just translates to Brei.

    • @SD_Alias
      @SD_Alias 4 місяці тому +3

      Grütze is a similar word. Before the arrival of the potato, there was almost only groats/Grütze for the rural population

    • @FallacyBites
      @FallacyBites 4 місяці тому

      Wait, like Matzo-brie/brei? That makes so much more sense

  • @noahengstrom
    @noahengstrom Рік тому +20

    Oh my God, so I was eating gruel all those years as a child? I grew up in MN and this is pretty much what I made in the morning before school (sans Brandy of course).

    • @xlerb2286
      @xlerb2286 Рік тому +1

      Same here. oatmeal, Cream of Wheat, Ralston. Was never a big fan of oatmeal but I liked the other two. Especially with a little blob of ice cream on it.

  • @catherinegarmon3027
    @catherinegarmon3027 2 роки тому +97

    Reminds me of my favorite line in "Annie", as delivered by Carol Burnette:
    Ms. Hannigan: "Kids, we're not having hot mush today!"
    Orphan kids: "Yay!!!"
    Ms. Hannigan: "We're having cold mush."

  • @alfiegrace
    @alfiegrace 2 роки тому +611

    Dickins had been in the workhouse for a while due to his father’s debts, so he had a very good understanding of the food and conditions there. Thank you Max for your wonderful channel.

    • @sawahtb
      @sawahtb 2 роки тому +56

      Not exactly. Dickens did work as a child but not technically a "Work House", it was a business making something called boot black. A Work House was a government run not for profit last hope sort of place. I'm sure he was familiar with all the possible situations people got into, including the Debtors Prisons because of his family's poverty. There was no Social Security or Welfare. If you got into financial trouble you'd better hope a family member might take you in or you could end up in Debtor's Prison or the Work House, if not starvation on the street. Eventually Orphanages attempted to save babies that would otherwise been literally thrown in the gutter.

    • @lostpony4885
      @lostpony4885 2 роки тому +7

      Regardless you gonna need more gruel not less to survive grueling conditiond

    • @Redskies453
      @Redskies453 2 роки тому +14

      They straight up repo your kids back then. Brutal.

    • @TTFerdinand
      @TTFerdinand 2 роки тому +24

      @@sawahtb I totally feel for the children of the past. The grueling conditions they had to live in. Even 80 years ago children died of diseases that are curable today. My mother has told stories about walking 9 miles to the school, in winter, with wolves lurking around, but my kids step out of the car and they're there. They always get the best food although I constantly try to train them to eat everything, because you never know...

    • @catwoman7462
      @catwoman7462 2 роки тому +10

      He and his family lived in a debtor's prison - not the same as a workhouse.

  • @peterallen4605
    @peterallen4605 Рік тому +4

    There absolutely were work houses in the US. Sometimes referred to as the Alms House, the ones that I know of had a reputation for being better places than what you describe here. However, they were still abolished in favor of other forms of assistance.

  • @surfband
    @surfband Рік тому +8

    My maternal grandmother was of Scottish descent, and as of such so, oatmeal/gruel has come down as a cold weather breakfast. I remember daily winter breakfasts of oatmeal with brown sugar and milk to warm me on my walk to school. These days, I am much more experimental and cook my oatmeal in spiced apple cider with raisins, dried cranberries and walnuts, topped with maple syrup. Another variation is, oatmeal with a spoon of cocoa, marshmallows and walnuts, for a rocky road flavor. I always look forward to a hot oatmeal breakfast in winter. It warms the soul.

  • @yobgodababua1862
    @yobgodababua1862 2 роки тому +34

    In the infamous "May I have some more" scene from OT, EVERYONE wanted more gruel not because it was in any way delicious, but because they were all on short rations and starving.
    They drew straws for who would go up and ask and Oliver lost.

    • @ecoquilting7077
      @ecoquilting7077 2 роки тому +7

      ..."never before had a boy wanted more!". I'm guessing Oliver's gruel was no-frills, undercooked, and rather sandy!

  • @ManateeOnRye
    @ManateeOnRye 2 роки тому +21

    "The first thing that hits you is the nutmeg" somewhere Townsends felt a twinge of pride

  • @Christine-hr8in
    @Christine-hr8in Рік тому +4

    It is Highly Unlikely people in Work Houses had "butter", "brandy", "sugar" or salt Added to their Slop. It was a place of Unbelievable Cruelty.

  • @CrazyCraftFreak
    @CrazyCraftFreak Рік тому +7

    I thought gruel was just a word my mom made up for when she tells us dinner was ready “I made some gruel” didn’t know it was a real thing. I will show her this video tomorrow

  • @Eviltwin531
    @Eviltwin531 2 роки тому +167

    Oliver Twist was a starving street urchin, he would have begged for seconds of anything they slopped out to him... it could have been grass clippings or mattress stuffing or my elementary school cafeteria's macaroni and cheese, he'd have eaten it.
    And every time I hear the world, my brain goes straight to the Grool, the monster of the Goosebumps book "It Came From Beneath The Sink!"

    • @ragnkja
      @ragnkja 2 роки тому +17

      Not a street urchin, as he'd always had _somewhere_ to live, even if it was the workhouse or being "fostered" by a pinch-penny who only took in the boys for the stipend she was paid for it, and fed them as little as possible because she didn't want to spend the money (that was supposed to cover their needs) on the boys.

    • @TheMimiSard
      @TheMimiSard 2 роки тому +5

      I have heard grass clipping can make a good soup - a tale Mum has passed on as something that occured in the Great Depression, though Mumbwas a country girl in a modest central NSW town, but I guess it depends on what sort of garden a household had.

    • @ragnkja
      @ragnkja 2 роки тому +10

      @@TheMimiSard
      I'd much rather pick specific plants from the lawn, and grass itself is pretty far down my list. Goutweed, on the other hand, was introduced to Norway as a potherb, so that should be a good choice. It does make a good pesto, after all. And if that's not enough (unlikely, as it literally grows as/like a weed), I also have dandelions and even a bit of wood sorrel.

    • @marialiyubman
      @marialiyubman 2 роки тому +12

      Come on now! Anything but school cafeteria macaroni and cheese. 😂🤣😭

    • @Eviltwin531
      @Eviltwin531 2 роки тому +15

      @@marialiyubman I don't think they even used cheese. The few times I got close enough to smell, I would swear the "sauce" was actually watered down mayonnaise.

  • @SolidRollin
    @SolidRollin 2 роки тому +41

    "No gooseberries until you finish your gruel!" - some medieval mother, probably.

  • @ForumArcade
    @ForumArcade 4 місяці тому +10

    Baby don't hurt me...

  • @susiefraser9182
    @susiefraser9182 Рік тому +11

    What they call gruel in English in Spanish is an Atoll. Sans the booze. Any ways it's served as more of a thick drink and it's absolutely delicious. And very comforting.You can make it out of corn or rice as well boiled with lots of cinnamon. If you add Greek yogurt to it, you have a slow protein that will fill you up until lunchtime.

    • @emaarredondo-librarian
      @emaarredondo-librarian Рік тому +1

      (I think you mean the Mexican beverage called atole. Chilean here. I can assure you it is a Mexican specialty, the ingredients aren't easy to find elsewhere; I have seen it only in books and videos. It looks delicious :-)

    • @susiefraser9182
      @susiefraser9182 Рік тому

      @@emaarredondo-librarian This drink is not just a Mexican specialty anymore. I have traveled quite a bit and found the drink ubiquitous as versions of it are made in every country in Central America. The Cubans make a version as well.

    • @emaarredondo-librarian
      @emaarredondo-librarian Рік тому +3

      @@susiefraser9182 Mexico and Central America, not all Spanish speaking countries - not Spain, for sure. Corn is still thought as food for animals there. Chilean here, currently in Argentina. In Chile, there's a lot of Peruvian and Venezuelan immigration; in Argentina too, but still Italian-Spanish cuisine is prevalent at the most popular level. Atole is unknown, and isn't even offered in Mexican restaurants. The specific ingredients to make it (corn masa harina, piloncillo sugar) are nowhere to be found in the commerce. There are plenty of local dishes and desserts based on corn, but not atole (nor tamales, but there are humitas in all the Inca Empire area of influence - they aren't the same thing). Atole has been always a Mexican specialty (the word is originally Nahuatl), also found in neighboring countries, but hasn't become popular beyond its original source. Latin America (let's not forget the Portuguese and French aspects of it) is huge, and not similar to Mexico outside of its own area of influence.
      Great to know you have traveled around. I was born and have lived here for 60 years.

    • @YeshuaKingMessiah
      @YeshuaKingMessiah 4 місяці тому

      Horchata is another
      Thin rice or oat gruel, sweetened and drank iced
      Mexican

  • @donaldneill4419
    @donaldneill4419 2 роки тому +176

    As a Cape Bretoner with four "Macs" amongst the grandparents, I was brought up on oatmeal made with water and salt. My brother and I considered ourselves blessed because we were allowed milk and brown sugar with it; my grandfather wouldn't eat it unless you could stand a wooden spoon up in it. My wife, being a Dane, eats it made with milk instead of water, and with a big lump of butter on top. I love it to this day; but my kids grew up considering it punishment for not eating the 'real food' we had prepared for dinner. "And thus the whirligig of time brings in his revenges."

    • @snazzypazzy
      @snazzypazzy 2 роки тому +18

      My mom used to make a version of buckwheat grits, cooked in buttermilk, and served with a little hollow in the top that you could fill up with butter and syrup (stroop in Dutch, like the stuff that's in a stroopwafel). That too had to be so thick it would self support a wooden spoon standing up! The traditional version of this dish is also served with fried bacon, but that's not how we make it. My brothers and dad hate it, it's like a solid slightly acidic block, but I still make it on occasion.

    • @andrewhawking1261
      @andrewhawking1261 2 роки тому +5

      Oh yeah, I too use milk and add butter. I guess it's pan-european tradition.

    • @igotes
      @igotes 2 роки тому +5

      The porridge I grew up with was rolled oats, 50/50 water/milk, maybe a pinch of salt, served with golden syrup (which I guess is a sugar syrup made from sugar cane - corn syrup is still very difficult to obtain here in the UK)

    • @homelessrobot
      @homelessrobot 2 роки тому +10

      My grandfather wouldn't eat it unless you could stand a chair up in it on one leg. And he would put way too much peanut butter in it. It was basically just peanut butter.

    • @bender7167
      @bender7167 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah never was a fan of porridge. We had it like your grandfather, very bland and with a texture like snot. Milk and a bag of brown sugar helped a bit I guess. Fresh berries and cream more so.

  • @nakenmil
    @nakenmil 2 роки тому +257

    Oh my god, I can't believe I didn't catch this before now. If "gruel" comes from "grut", then it's clearly a cognate to the Scandinavian words for porridge, which is "grød/grøt/gröt". Which just... makes a lot of sense. Gruel itself is actually called "vælling/velling/välling", which derives from Old Norse and means something like "viscuous/flowing food".

    • @boatingman11
      @boatingman11 Рік тому +18

      "I am Grut."

    • @sebastianriemer1777
      @sebastianriemer1777 Рік тому +13

      Grütze in German

    • @lise7538
      @lise7538 Рік тому +9

      @@boatingman11 I clicked specifically on this comment section to see if someone would say that 🤣
      Thank you, you made my day.

    • @boatingman11
      @boatingman11 Рік тому +3

      @@lise7538 ... You're welcome.

    • @schrire39
      @schrire39 Рік тому +6

      Also see “groats”. Are “grits” a cognate too possibly ?

  • @michikoiesaka3365
    @michikoiesaka3365 Рік тому +9

    This was a basic but in actuality they added what was available. Sugar was too expensive so they added an egg. Also they added vegetable broth which they sometimes found wild. Also some added mushrooms. Others added cheese too. It looks like you already said some of these.

  • @ReggieArford
    @ReggieArford Рік тому +2

    You can considerably improve oatmeal (cream of wheat, rice, etc.) by adding butter, soy sauce, and beef (or chicken) bouillon. I'm partial to the beef "Better Than Bouillon" in mine; YMMV.

  • @christenfields4327
    @christenfields4327 2 роки тому +184

    Oh Max, I've been hoping you would do a gruel episode. And here it is. Thank you for all your hard(tack) work!

    • @animula6908
      @animula6908 2 роки тому +32

      Clack! Clack!

    • @RosiescrazyCorner
      @RosiescrazyCorner 2 роки тому +15

      whenever I hear someone say "hard tack" I get that image of Max smacking two of em together lol

    • @usagi8
      @usagi8 2 роки тому +2

      Agreed!

    • @Brok3nC4rrot
      @Brok3nC4rrot 2 роки тому +6

      *CLACK CLACK*

  • @marmadukescarlet7791
    @marmadukescarlet7791 2 роки тому +66

    “Interesting” is one way to describe the workhouses; absolute hellholes, which tortured and punished the poor for the moral shortcoming of being born or becoming poor. Poverty was considered a matter of morality, rather than the simple misfortune of birth it was for most.

    • @theotherohlourdespadua1131
      @theotherohlourdespadua1131 2 роки тому +7

      And the unfortunate many get longer sentences or even execution for stealing things than murdering people...

    • @roofdogblues7400
      @roofdogblues7400 2 роки тому +22

      And it seems to be a sentiment among many of todays wealthy (in the US at least), they'd rather make it harder for the poor, to supposedly cause them to work harder at becoming not poor, than to give real aid or relief.

    • @01cthompson
      @01cthompson 2 роки тому +11

      Today we have Walmart and Amazon warehouses.

    • @ms_cartographer
      @ms_cartographer 2 роки тому +5

      It's just like now, honestly.

    • @marcietownsend3635
      @marcietownsend3635 2 роки тому +8

      @@roofdogblues7400 Impact Investment. It's a thing where the poor are kept poor so Wall Street can bet on their "outcomes." Check it out.

  • @alexcwagner
    @alexcwagner 4 місяці тому +2

    My first thought when I saw the title was about Krusty brand imitation gruel. Glad he referenced it!

  • @lauraallan6412
    @lauraallan6412 Рік тому +4

    I just found your channel and what a perfect first video for me to pick. I was highly impressed to hear you talk about the Scottish porridge drawer, I've never heard anyone outside of Scotland mention it! When my grandad was a baby he slept in the drawer just above the porridge drawer as the war was on and his mother couldn't get/afford a proper crib.

  • @bigredradish
    @bigredradish 2 роки тому +204

    you mentioned acorn as one of the several types of gruel--i'd love to see something made with acorns on the channel some day! dotori-muk is a korean acorn jelly that apparently has some history to it so that could be fun.

    • @TastingHistory
      @TastingHistory  2 роки тому +95

      I definitely want to do something with acorns one day

    • @koganusan4025
      @koganusan4025 2 роки тому +29

      @@TastingHistory id love something about acorn coffee or various coffee substitutes during ww2. my grandma told me they used beechnuts for coffee, and they were horrible.

    • @c.w.8200
      @c.w.8200 2 роки тому +20

      It's a lot of work, you have to wash the bitterness out of the ground acorns first. I'd prefer to revitalize a great tradition I've heard of: feed the acorns to the pigs, subsequently eat those acorn-fattened pigs.

    • @oomflem
      @oomflem 2 роки тому +29

      Acorn Porridge or Wiiwish was the staple Indigenous food in California pre-colonisation- an episode on pre-colonisation Californian foods would be really cool!

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 2 роки тому +5

      @@koganusan4025 Fallout New Vegas uses mesquite beans for flavor and tobacco so the nicotine can substitute for caffeine I think.

  • @Jestersage
    @Jestersage 2 роки тому +66

    So as you know, Chinese's version of gruel is congee (ie rice gruel) - and it's interesting how memories from childhood affect it. My granparents and my father love congee, and is said to be food of the sick (favorite type: thousand year old egg + dried oyster). Many older generation also like sha-tian chicken congee. Unfortunately my memory of it is always plain congee served during fever... so I come to loath it.
    An episode of Congee/juk can be interesting, as legends attached to some congee (eg Laba Congee) are numerous.

    • @melskunk
      @melskunk 2 роки тому +1

      There was a congee shop near the hotel I worked at. I had to be there for 4:30 am so for my "lunch" break or after work i often got breakfast there instead. I tended to like pork and salted duck egg. When I told one of my Chinese friends they told me about the sick food thing so I wonder if I looked really weird having it for a regular morning meal

    • @Fragatron
      @Fragatron 2 роки тому +1

      皮蛋瘦肉粥 and 艇仔粥 are classics at the Cantonese wonton houses.

    • @qq13563817153
      @qq13563817153 2 роки тому +2

      Frog leg congee is my favourite dish of all time, and my maternal aunt runs a store selling seafood congee back home

    • @oldasyouromens
      @oldasyouromens 2 роки тому +2

      I will literally get out of bed for the first time in days if promised duck leg ginger congee. I feel like people forget the amount of digestive issues and pains people went through "back in the day", so something like gruel is actually palatable. As Long COVID and other post infectious syndromes become more and more of a public health issue we may see a return of such "sick foods" into the popular consciousness.

    • @Jestersage
      @Jestersage 2 роки тому +1

      @@melskunk Not weird. Having congee for breakfast (with youtiao) is a very Hong Kong habit.

  • @AdamB12
    @AdamB12 2 місяці тому +1

    When my father was growing up in Africa, the orphanage he was at used to make a gruel out of sorghum or teff, which teff is a grain that grows only in the region my dad grew up in. He remembers it as being terrible. Sometimes fruit like cactus pear or mango was offered and it was a nice change up

  • @LegioXIII-SPQR
    @LegioXIII-SPQR Рік тому +3

    I live in Manitoba (central Canada) and it just occurred to me that Red River Cereal can be used in place of Scottish/steel cut oats. Red River Cereal is a porridge (or hot cereal) made from a blend of cracked wheat, rye and brown flaxseeds that was created in Manitoba in 1924 and takes its name from the Red River valley.

  • @raygv1
    @raygv1 2 роки тому +31

    Honestly any porridge to me sounds quite nice no matter the culture or the context which it’s referred to. It’s warm and nourishing. Just a bit basic but universal.

  • @imnotliketheothernerds
    @imnotliketheothernerds 2 роки тому +85

    This is a normal breakfast at my house 😂 sweet, savory, you name it. Usually with bacon fried in the pot first so the grease gets used in place of butter. Eta: the kids love tasting history, so maybe now I can get them to stop whining about the cheap breakfast choice, thanks Max! 😂

    • @Kehy_ThisNameWasAlreadyTaken
      @Kehy_ThisNameWasAlreadyTaken 2 роки тому +3

      Oatmeal is a favorite hot breakfast for me, when I get the time. I make it suuuuper thick though (quicker to eat lumps of it), with a pinch of salt, brown sugar, rasins, walnuts (if I have them), sometimes maple syrup and cinnamon. I can really struggle to get moving in the morning, so the sugar does help, as does it being a warm meal. Still, it's substantial enough to hold me until morning break, or even lunch if need be, even when working very hard labor for hours in the weather.
      Otherwise I just grab a frozen breakfast sandwich and shed a tear for my abandoned taste buds

    • @kayekaye251
      @kayekaye251 2 роки тому +1

      I seem to think of it with some kind of meat drippings. Don't know why as my Mom served oatmeal with salt, sugar, butter and milk. Hmmm . . . maybe she threw in some bacon bits and I just was too young to remember.

  • @Rockhound6165
    @Rockhound6165 Місяць тому +1

    One of my favorite gruel dishes is polenta. My ex-mother in law used to layer the polenta with spaghetti sauce and a little grated cheese. My ex grew up literally dirt poor in Italy and this was a staple.

  • @Patchouliprince
    @Patchouliprince Рік тому

    Your videos are so soothing, I watch and rewatch them every night when I’m falling asleep or when I’m up all night and I can’t sleep

  • @rivermundcatradora7061
    @rivermundcatradora7061 2 роки тому +318

    I have to say, of the (few) recipes you've shared that I've tried, this was the saddest. Through no fault of either yours or mine, I must make clear: the gruel tasted great, but as a frequent and fervent enjoyer of oats, the thinness of it was in the end kinda off-putting, like a dilute porridge. And, while it was filling when I ate it, in little over an hour I was hungry again, since it really was mostly water. It really puts things into perspective. The flavor profile I'll try with a proper porridge soon, though.

    • @randomcomment6068
      @randomcomment6068 Рік тому +19

      I make it with milk.

    • @elcidleon6500
      @elcidleon6500 Рік тому +34

      They weren't joking that it had a bad reputation, as it's basically a very simple and lack luster meal. Either add milk if you want to make it "richer" in flavor.
      I mean, it's great as a "fasting" meal if you want to cut some weight, though.

    • @ReggieArford
      @ReggieArford Рік тому +4

      Try adding beef bouillon, soy sauce, and a pat of butter. Delicious!

    • @maryanneslater9675
      @maryanneslater9675 Рік тому +8

      It would definitely lack enough calories to keep someone going for hours of work. That was really the issue when it came to poor families and workhouse folks. Cheap and temporarily filling but it's starvation in the long-term.

    • @Mienarrr
      @Mienarrr Рік тому

      I like that you tried the recipe even thought it might be not „as tasty“ as dishes we eat today!!

  • @AngryEggs231
    @AngryEggs231 2 роки тому +37

    Given gruel's reputation, I was half-expecting the legendary hard-tack scene to make an appearance, as a comparison to undesirible foods

    • @capnbilll2913
      @capnbilll2913 2 роки тому

      Hard tack & kipper is good eat'n

    • @AngryEggs231
      @AngryEggs231 2 роки тому +1

      @@capnbilll2913 not when the hardtack has gotten moldy and full of weevils

    • @zenogias01
      @zenogias01 2 роки тому

      @@AngryEggs231 Eh, the mold and bugs just add extra nutrition!

    • @AngryEggs231
      @AngryEggs231 2 роки тому

      @@zenogias01 Nutrition only counts when it isn't immediately and catastrophically offset by various toxins and poisons.

  • @Lord_Edox
    @Lord_Edox Рік тому

    Absolutely love how you give us the everyday persons food. Well done.

  • @martincoyle4674
    @martincoyle4674 Рік тому +3

    I love that you included the Broons!
    One of the funniest stories was where Paw Broon bits into a slice of the dried porridge and breaks his teeth on a toy car 🤣

    • @anitanalley2417
      @anitanalley2417 Рік тому +2

      Martin, I thought I was the only one who recognized the Broons strip. I think that was the episode you mentioned where Pawnis demonstrating to the kids that left over porridge can be poured into a drawer on cold nights and then sliced in the morning.
      My mom told that her father did the same with polenta, and then fried it the next morning.

    • @martincoyle4674
      @martincoyle4674 Рік тому +2

      @Anita Nalley thats exactly the one I was referring to! The Broons is absolutely brilliant

    • @shonathomson7062
      @shonathomson7062 3 місяці тому

      Don't forget "Oor Wullie"
      🤣🤣

  • @bonniherself
    @bonniherself 2 роки тому +12

    Gruelscum is my new band name. Thanks, Max!

  • @Lauren.E.O
    @Lauren.E.O 2 роки тому +83

    The fact that workhouse workers were called inmates…yeah, that checks out. Food and board are only actual perks if you’re actually fed *enough* and given livable accommodations.

    • @Taolan8472
      @Taolan8472 2 роки тому +10

      Many workhouses were punitive, or at least had people under punishment amongs their ranks.

    • @SimuLord
      @SimuLord 2 роки тому +11

      When I spent the fall of 2013 in a Seattle homeless shelter, the term of choice was "guests" for me and 50 of my closest friends sharing sleeping space in a not-large-enough room.

    • @Agamemnon2
      @Agamemnon2 2 роки тому +12

      Indeed, the work performed at workhouses was often of substandard quality or completely worthless for any real economic purpose (because more well-off workers complained about unfair competition from these unpair inmates devaluing THEIR labor) so instead the inmates were directed to what was essentially physical torture like turning a pointless crank or picking apart tarry ropes so the fiber, "oakum", could be sold to plumbers for caulking. A common philosophical belief of the era was that caring for the poor without putting them to some kind of work would only lead to indolence and other sins, so hard labor, no matter how pointless and cruel, was deemed a moral necessity.

    • @e.urbach7780
      @e.urbach7780 2 роки тому +17

      To be fair, in census documents, any people who lived together in the same house (family, lodgers, servants, hospital patients, as well as prisoners or workhouse members) were termed "inmates"; it's only in more recent times that the word "inmate" has been reduced to only referring to prison inmates.

    • @noahmiller8042
      @noahmiller8042 2 роки тому +3

      @@Agamemnon2 i agree about not having work leading to indolence and other such things, the point would be giving people work WITH purpose and dignity

  • @tammyslash7251
    @tammyslash7251 Місяць тому

    I love watching!! Never stop❤

  • @eane4762
    @eane4762 Рік тому

    This is one of the best channels on cable, social media, TV etc. Thank you.

  • @circesgrandmainomaha580
    @circesgrandmainomaha580 2 роки тому +107

    When I was growing up, our "gruel" was overboiled rice with whatever leftover protein we had (usually chicken or ham), plus some odd diced onions, a single sliced carrot, etc. It made a few simple (leftover) ingredients into enough food to feed 4 growing kids plus. I'm going to try some of the variations you've mentioned.

    • @Jestersage
      @Jestersage 2 роки тому +3

      Where you from, and what culture would your parents be more associated with? Would be interesting to hear about rice gruel traditions outside of China and Japan (I know Korean have their juk but I know little enough about them, and I can guarantee anywhere that eat rice will have rice gruel)

    • @LadyCin611
      @LadyCin611 2 роки тому +4

      Hmmm…I make this to this day. I call it “clean out the refrigerator casserole”. My family loves it.

    • @thismissivemisfit
      @thismissivemisfit 2 роки тому +1

      This is basically rice porridge or 'moi' as my mom calls it. Whatever leftover rice from yesterday's lunch or dinner is simmered with water until it resembles mush, and eaten with chicken soup, fried peanuts, and soy sauce. During Ramadhan, the water is swapped for coconut broth and spices, with meat and veges mixed in with the rice.

  • @alsaunders7805
    @alsaunders7805 Рік тому +6

    I sweeten my oatmeal with molasses or honey after cooking and then thin and cool it with enough cream that it is basically gruel. I call it porridge though, that sounds better I think. 🤔🤓🍻

  • @pravinshingadia7337
    @pravinshingadia7337 Рік тому

    Just came across your channel - it’s brilliant!

  • @lizzykay9912
    @lizzykay9912 2 роки тому +29

    Gruel terrified me as a kid, because Dickens be like that. I was also mighty afraid of boarding schools XD
    So I flat out hated "cream of wheat" which I associated from the description. But ate my rice pudding happily.
    This was a short glimpse into the Victorian workhouse age, it's nice to be reminded that the ruling class has always punished the poor, simply for being poor.
    Had to re-watch for the Pokemon - Grimer spotted!

    • @kevynhansyn2902
      @kevynhansyn2902 2 роки тому +1

      We are in the same page.
      Cream of Wheat, and Grits can just die.
      Rice pudding and Oatmeal, hell yes

  • @lhfirex
    @lhfirex 2 роки тому +37

    This must have been a grueling episode to make. But, like Oliver Twist, I'm still going to think ahead to next week with a "Please sir, can I have some more?"

  • @violettracey
    @violettracey 3 місяці тому

    Thanks! This was interesting to learn about!

  • @rossegan7034
    @rossegan7034 Рік тому

    Oh yes..thank God I found this video..I have been looking for a recipe for grewl for years..can't wait to try this one out..thankyou

  • @DeviantDespot
    @DeviantDespot 2 роки тому +47

    Had a friend who made something like this and he would put raisins soaked in brandy with brown sugar. It was delicious. Never knew it was gruel, always thought he just liked watery buttered oatmeal.

    • @neinundnein6358
      @neinundnein6358 2 роки тому

      Add a litle ground-nuts to it, than it's perfect!

    • @Goldenkitten1
      @Goldenkitten1 2 роки тому

      I just can't imagine it with brandy. Don't get me wrong I've had brown sugar brandy before so I know it can go with those flavors. But a dish like this would usually be eaten in the morning, not to mention I feel like the brandy's alcoholic taste would just overtake the dish.

    • @leeeightiesbaby9435
      @leeeightiesbaby9435 2 роки тому +6

      @@Goldenkitten1 the alcohol, Brandy, is cooked off, so it won't actually taste like alcohol...

    • @Goldenkitten1
      @Goldenkitten1 2 роки тому

      @@leeeightiesbaby9435 I was aware alcohol cooks off in certain dishes but I thought it would take longer than this.

    • @leeeightiesbaby9435
      @leeeightiesbaby9435 2 роки тому

      @@Goldenkitten1 ok jackrabbit

  • @momogal04
    @momogal04 2 роки тому +47

    One of my favorite winter breakfasts is Scottish oats cooked with cinnamon, nutmeg, brown sugar and enough milk to make it the same consistency as the video. Warms you up and is especially good with a nice cup of tea.

  • @redneckextraordinaire3073
    @redneckextraordinaire3073 Рік тому

    What a fantastic, historical, informative video. Well done.

  • @travissutherland8502
    @travissutherland8502 Місяць тому

    Most realistic and relaxed cup of coffee I’ve ever seen.

  • @lizurang8145
    @lizurang8145 2 роки тому +40

    “I like gruel!” Wiggins from Pocahontas is all I think about when I hear gruel. 🤣

  • @tinuviel-undomiel
    @tinuviel-undomiel 2 роки тому +62

    I love your addition of the nursery rhyme. People don’t realize lots of nursery rhymes actually started off as political jabs. “Baa Baa Black Sheep” is actually about taxes. “Mary, Mary Quite Contrary” and “Three Blind Mice” are actually about Mary I and her persecution of Protestants. It’s fascinating how many of the rhymes we learned as kids have darker meanings to them.

    • @ccahill2322
      @ccahill2322 Рік тому +3

      Jessica Conley, Here's a more recent one for you: "The weather was cruel when they dished out the gruel/Dan O'Connor was down with the fever/Fifty rebels today bound for Botany Bay/How many will reach their receiver? "

    • @tinuviel-undomiel
      @tinuviel-undomiel Рік тому +1

      @@ccahill2322 never heard that one before.

    • @ccahill2322
      @ccahill2322 Рік тому

      @@tinuviel-undomiel , That suggests you do not live in a certain area of Europe. Or you do not take much interest in general knowledge or recent and not-so-recent history.

    • @tinuviel-undomiel
      @tinuviel-undomiel Рік тому

      @@ccahill2322 nope, I’m from the US

    • @ccahill2322
      @ccahill2322 Рік тому +3

      @@tinuviel-undomiel , I did think so and that is not meant to be taken as an insult. I will explain. The quote mentioning "gruel" came from a poem/song written by a man named Bobby Sands. An Irishman of mixed Protestant/Catholic family. He was elected by a large majority of voters but did not take his seat in Westminster since he would not recognize the right of a British parliament to rule over part of his country. He died, on hunger strike, in the Long Kesh concentration camp in early 1980's. Among his writings was the song: "I wish I was back home in Derry. Its' subject matter is when the British used to transport Rebels/Criminals from Ireland to Australia. If you wish to listen it's on you tube somewhere. An interesting aside: One of the rebels who escaped and went to the US fought for the Union during the American Civil War. His name was General Thomas Francis Meagher, who was a leader of the Irish Brigade in the Union Army. He later was Governor of Montana. Hope this is of interest to you.

  • @StaticFalconar
    @StaticFalconar Рік тому +1

    You knocked another one out of the park Steve Tiller. Awesome episode

  • @alanmurdoch70
    @alanmurdoch70 Рік тому

    I am loving the use of Paw Broon filling the Pirridge Drawer

  • @fien111
    @fien111 2 роки тому +74

    "Gruel Scum" is also a pretty awesome name for a British Grunge band.
    Did Britain have Grunge bands? I feel like they didn't because they were always operating at that level of depressed hate just as a part of the national character

    • @murphychurch8251
      @murphychurch8251 2 роки тому +6

      They did...Bush comes to my mind. 🤔

    • @willrobinson3114
      @willrobinson3114 2 роки тому +1

      We had punk rather than grunge. Gruel Scum is punk af though

    • @flowertrue
      @flowertrue 2 роки тому +7

      I believe punk originated in England. Gruel Scum reminds me of the 90s grunge moment, a la Puddle of Mudd and Jars of Clay

    • @deanagallatin6974
      @deanagallatin6974 2 роки тому +3

      @@flowertrue and Pearl Jam! One of my favorite eras of music

    • @LIZZIE-lizzie
      @LIZZIE-lizzie 2 роки тому +1

      @ Fien
      If the entire population doesn't mind being named "subjects", paying for every folly of the monarchy, then they deserve it. In downtown NYC the style of "punk" is just standard fare. Forget goth and grunge. Dirty jeans, motorcycle boots and leather jackets.

  • @PaddyD378
    @PaddyD378 2 роки тому +13

    " For a soldier he always is decent and clean
    In the finest of clothing he is constantly seen
    While other poor fellows go dirty and mean
    And sup on thin gruel in the mornin"..

  • @artisanrox
    @artisanrox 3 місяці тому

    This gruel recipe is essentially how i make my oatmeal in the morning. Oats + milk, let it sit while I do my morning things, then add banana and fruit, let it sit more, add maple syrup/butter/salt.
    Fascinating. I have "gruel" like twice or 3x a week and honestly it's delicious.

  • @Sparty-pi3jq
    @Sparty-pi3jq 6 місяців тому

    I throughly enjoyed Congee with chunks fish in it. It was amazing. Great video as always!

  • @blue_beephang-glider5417
    @blue_beephang-glider5417 2 роки тому +62

    I was raised by 4 Mothers real, foster, 2nd Foster and Step. Later I was put in an orphanage, which was normal for the 1970s. We had some interesting meals there. One was Gibbers, named after the slate on the Gibson desert. I helped make and also ate these. They were made 12 at a time buttered and spread with a silk screen and squeegee, then wrapped in grease proof paper and went stale and hard by lunchtime. I ate mine and bartered for other peoples! They came in three flavours Baked Beans, Peanut Butter and Vegemite. My favorited was Peanut Butter. Why did I eat them? Most westerners do not know hunger… I had had my fair share and if you can see out your life without it, do! Tomorrow I will make and eat your Gruel for breakfast. Happy to have the choice, it will be better than many meals I have had and I will enjoy the history of it. Thank you, Blue

    • @hurgcat
      @hurgcat Рік тому +2

      you get to know hunger and her gnawing and you never forget. We're all 4 missed meals from being someone we would rather not be

  • @KH-hr5xm
    @KH-hr5xm 2 роки тому +3

    Groot's appearance at 4:18 was perfect 👍

  • @crawdad4823
    @crawdad4823 Рік тому

    Unexpectedly fascinating!

  • @dougiesmith4787
    @dougiesmith4787 2 роки тому +32

    Being Scottish I am delighted you enjoy our favourite breakfast. Porridge! Love the show. Keep em coming! Maybe look into other scottish dishes, stovies, square sausage, cock a leekie soup and tripe 'n' ingens (Tripe and onions). ps my father's mother made porridge and put it in a drawer to cool/harden and my father would have it as his play piece (snack at break time in school).

    • @renebrock4147
      @renebrock4147 2 роки тому +1

      Ah, cock-a-leekie soup! I love making that in colder weather.

    • @susanscott8653
      @susanscott8653 2 роки тому

      Both of my parents are Scottish and my aunt's ancestor set his porridge in a drawer and cut pieces to take with him while he worked.

    • @ajrwilde14
      @ajrwilde14 2 роки тому

      @@gwennorthcutt421 yes even better is to let the pieces dry out then fry out

    • @thedameofmuir5373
      @thedameofmuir5373 2 роки тому

      Mmm square sausage baps for breakfast! Brings back my childhood.

  • @suebrubaker6182
    @suebrubaker6182 2 роки тому +15

    My Mother used to make me a version of gruel but made with corn meal when my stomach was bothering me.

  • @Ravencall
    @Ravencall Рік тому

    I love that you mentioned Mr Woodhouse. He is synonymous with gruel in my mind.

  • @lindahouston4549
    @lindahouston4549 Рік тому

    I really enjoy these vids!

  • @jenarutberg9323
    @jenarutberg9323 2 роки тому +20

    My late grandfather was in a workhouse/ orphanage as a child turn of the previous century. He never mentioned the food. Now I'm curious and wish I could ask him about it. The few times he mentioned that place he didn't really say anything positive, but he lived through it. Love how much history you include with each recipe!

  • @PeaceLoveHonor
    @PeaceLoveHonor 2 роки тому +83

    For a treat, instead of butter at the end, Max, toast the oats in the butter until brown before adding the water. Yum. TBH - I always *hated* oatmeal, until I was given some made with steel-cut oats. Rolled oats in a packet with boiled water poured over is a gluey disgusting mess, but properly prepared steel-cut oats are a delight. They don't really need as long to cook as the old recipe, though, 12 mins. Is enough.

    • @PhoenixLyon
      @PhoenixLyon 2 роки тому +5

      I'm with you, steel cut oats, only! They seem more filling to me.✌️😺

    • @hjalfi
      @hjalfi 2 роки тому +15

      My father lives in Scotland, and makes his own porridge every day for breakfast. He will go on _at length_ about why you have to use proper steel-cut oats, and how proper porridge should be made with water instead of milk. I prefer it with milk myself, but I will admit he makes a damn fine bowl of porridge.

    • @paulleach3612
      @paulleach3612 2 роки тому +1

      @@hjalfi Yep, and always salt, never sugar.

    • @jonesnori
      @jonesnori 2 роки тому +3

      @@hjalfi Yep, the best porridge I ever ate was in Scotland. The best of the best was in Orkney. Our B&B mom had a real talent. (Normally they served a full Scottish, but we had grown tired of it and asked for porridge that day. So happy we did!)

    • @mmasque2052
      @mmasque2052 2 роки тому +5

      Oats, either kind, water and milk in a 50/50 ratio, pinch of salt some butter; don’t cook quite as long as the recipe says. And use a bit more oatmeal than the recipe calls for. You’ll get a thicker, slightly more toothsome oatmeal. Save sugar and other things for topping also I’ve cooked it adding raisins and diced apple with the oats. I agree steel-cut oats are better but rolled out has the benefit of needing less time to cook and, if you find it’s a bit too thin, you can add more oats and cook it without risking overcooking.

  • @leohale6449
    @leohale6449 Рік тому

    Nice R2-D2 mug there! I love it "I am Groot"

  • @OkikaHawaii
    @OkikaHawaii Рік тому

    Your collection of dishes must be large. Your thumbnails are beautiful. Enjoy watching this channel for education and entertaining to see someone actually make the food, try it, and give feedback.

  • @RaspK
    @RaspK 2 роки тому +14

    Gruel is still a thing in Greece; ours is typically eaten sweet, made out of cracked wheat and sugar, plus cinnamon, but depending on one's will to make it better or not, it can be quite elaborate. It's mostly made from the left-over memorial wheat preparation called "κόλυβα" and eaten accordingly, but it's also made by itself and for no other particular reason.

    • @melskunk
      @melskunk 2 роки тому +3

      My Romanian based bakery I work at often makes coliva for memorials as well but there's often extra they sell after and given they add cocoa and rum to it alongside the sugar and walnuts that are apparently more typical I can see why ours is so popular even without the religious reason

    • @RaspK
      @RaspK 2 роки тому +1

      @@melskunk That sounds delicious!

  • @Lemoncatsf
    @Lemoncatsf 2 роки тому +18

    Max you are able to turn something as ordinary as oatmeal/ gruel into a captivating history lesson! ❤️ Love it. I personally love oatmeal and have so many comforting childhood memories of eating it with my mother and or grandparents. I usually only eat steel cut oats now, and now because of laziness just soaked overnight. One gruel type grain dish that wasn’t mentioned is made from sorghum. In Tunisia they usually have a light breakfast of coffee and cookies and small pieces of toast dipped in olive oil, but they do a nice gruel with sorghum. They also occasionally have a spoonful of a sweetened grain mixture called bsisa.

  • @paulcatiang
    @paulcatiang 3 місяці тому

    Came here hoping for a Mr. Woodhouse reference and am now absolutely delighted! Thank you.

  • @davidmusk9605
    @davidmusk9605 Рік тому

    very interesting background to the dish. Must try some of the variations

  • @GaldirEonai
    @GaldirEonai 2 роки тому +44

    Another reason for its bad reputation is that gruel and its various relatives around the world is widely regarded as "sick/old people food" on account of being easy to digest, fairly nutritious and not requiring any working teeth.
    Edit: Aaand I should have waited to watch the whole thing before commenting because that's covered :P.

    • @LadyElaineLovegood
      @LadyElaineLovegood 2 роки тому +1

      TBF I don't think he mentioned poor teeth.

    • @koganusan4025
      @koganusan4025 2 роки тому +4

      german oat soup is the best thing ever if you have an upset stomach. loads and loads of caraway in it.

    • @LadyElaineLovegood
      @LadyElaineLovegood 2 роки тому +1

      @@koganusan4025 sounds tasty even if one is feeling fine.

  • @TheShadowChesireCat
    @TheShadowChesireCat 2 роки тому +7

    Also, a lot of people went into the Workhouse to get access to medical treatment. But Workhouse medical treatment was often not sanitary or praticed by people who had decent doctoring skills. It was often either slow death via what condition you had or fast death via the workhouse doctor.
    Annnd that's why when it came down to your circumstances being choose one of the 3: going into the workhouse, becoming a criminal and being likely sentenced to Transportation (to colonies like Australia) or death via starvation, people went with transportation.