Not even the Vetterli. Vetterli is still gonna be fine since it still has that oneshot potential on people lacking small bar (well, at least within 20m, lol) and its kinda cheap. The Centenial tho? Its my favourite gun but after that small ammo buff that weapon will be once again forgotten. I can buy a weapon that does kill at 180m for 157$, or a weapon that kills at 150m, has a scope, has usable levering, is faster and costs around 100$ with hv ammo included. As much as I like to use all winfields, this is ridiculous. Looks like Crytek really hates medium ammo.
@@tom74769 dude, I've waited forever for them to add the centennial and terminus and they're both just awful guns. Centennial is literally a larger caliber Winfield and it preforms worse in every way. Awful hip fire too with levering which is dumb imo, but hey.... the bullet speed is fast lmao
@@tom74769 And your only downside is its special ammo. But, you carry 3x the reserve ammo which means more ammo on resupply, and you can carry a nagant with even more reserve ammo for about the same price as a pax which sends your reserve through the roof. Once again, Medium ammo's only calling card of having slightly better drop off (And I do mean very slightly because they start at 20 too and are not much better than compact) makes no grounds against the dominance of compact's special ammo types.
4:35 one of the coolest and most underappreciated sounds of HUNT in my opinion is the whispers of the bosses all being unique. If you ever get the chance to listen to the bosses whispering it sounds like something from the Lord of the Rings, such a sick feature
It's great to show a good loadout, which doesn't cost about 800+ or something. And this loadout sounds like a lot of fun considering the Winfield buff and the reduced costs for Bornheim.
Do not know if you will read this but Winnie high velocity bow with poison+concertina If hundred hands/iron repeater And Winnie Fmj with dual conversion fmj If levering These are my usual Winnie loadouts. Typically go for headshots with high velocity so no common ammo issues.
@DIBs I'm officially changing the build 😅 At the start it's bow compact Springfield, eventually oberez and eventually a full Mosin nagant with bow now. For the Winnie I now run swift with velocity and compact winnie with fmj, using Levering for both weapon slots feels pretty good. Iron repeater also is dual purposed. It's almost like having only 1 Winnie but with fast ammo type swap if that makes sense lol. Velocity for head pops and fmj for spray and pray. Maybe I'll try centeniall with small Winnie too but I'm too addicted to swift velocity 😂
Other than the Vetterli, doesn't really seem like we should even bother with medium ammo anymore. Most of the guns are just too expensive and small ammo guns literally do the same thing now so...why bother?
Well we all know the pax needs hella love, so I feel with 1.10 moving the pax to around level 50 in the bloodline is in prep of upcoming changes. So hopfully when the pax gets some love so does Medium ammo as a whole. Like just increase the damage drop off range for it and maybe the pen damage so it feels a bit beefier then compact but not overtake long
One way I would have medium ammo set apart from compact and long is by making all the medium weapons higher velocity with good penetration, but still moderate/low damage.
Medium ammo is the unloved stepchild of Hunt Showdown. The only reason to use it is the pretty skins some of the weapons get, other than that there just isn't anything medium ammo weapons do better than their alternatives. All rounder budget pistol? Officer beats the Spitfire Good value rifle? Winnie now arguably better value and performance than vetterli/centennial Ranged backup for your shotgun but uppercut is too expensive? Sparks pistol or Budgetcut (conversion with fmj) Bleed ammo backup? Why use the pax when the new army fires twice as fast Really only the scottfield swift for fanning remains as a unique advantage of medium ammo. But most better players prefer the reliable officer over fanning rng anyway
The problem with medium ammo weapons is they are always within compact weapons HS range (especially after this patch) and they drop off to a 3 tap too early (70m). The windows where medium is the most effective is 40-60m but long ammo bolts do the same but can go further than 70m away so they are redundant. For medium ammo to be effective compact ammo needs to not 1 shot headshot at around 80-90m (most of them are like this at the moment) and Medium ammo needs to 2 tap up 80-90m.
Spitfire FMJ ist a fast shooting wallbang sidearm over Officer. Veterli Silence is best SIlencer atm. Dualwield Pax bleed is best bleeding Dual Wield. Centenial Sniper is cheapest spam Sniperscope Rifle. There are some medium ammo weapons that have an Edge, they just perform only in edge cases. Imo they should add Pax Silence, Pax Poison Ammo and Pax High Velocity Ammo, so Medium AMmo gets more intressting again.
@@nexnax8337 Forgot about the Vetterlin Silenced, truly a gun thats the best choice in its class. Dual wielding Paxs is just far too rng for my taste. I can get the same rate of fire with the new army but have my chance to hit be skill based. Now personally Im a big centennial fan, but thats purely an emotional attachment. For head bopping the Winnie Marksman is quite frankly superior in every way (imo). Im also waiting for more pax variants. That gun needs love, the scotfield has largely made it obsolete. Pax Precision Deadeye anyone? A bleed pocket sniper sounds fun to me.
The real MVP of game one is lightfoot, kite skin, and a regen shot. Also every time you ran over that third ammo box while complaining about no ammo boxes I died a little.
looks like ill actuly use the marksmen now ty for the content. not that it matters but scrapbeak droped another ammo or there was a special box, i saw 18:33.
Up the effective range on a rifle with an already insanely tight shoulder aim and high rate of fire. Then make it's near hitscan speeds at compound engagement ranges cheaper. And then revive the bornheim. Budget mosen/dolch indeed.
Yeah the aperture might be a new pick for me, whenever i rolled levering on my starting hunter i would opt for Terminus but i felt like i lacked fire rate for distance cuz i usually took a some revy for free.
I love a good Winnie+Nagant but it looks like I’ll be taking the bornhiem from now on wth With it being cheapened and nagant going up it’s like $40 difference
I've been staying away from using aperture weapons because I thought their scope is unusable, and now I hear about that you can switch scopes on X, lmao. Might use them more now.
Can you explain to me please. That effective range buff only affect headshot one shot or also bodyshots? Because I am a big fan of Winnie with fmj since without it it takes sometimes too many hits to kill someone. And with fmj it’s almost every time 2-3 shots if not headshot. Because it that improves bullet overal damage dropoff then I’m sure going to take high velocity.
Also wonder. Would like to see some chart. But logically it seems like they are overall buffing the damage dropoff, increasing the two tap potential. If they wouldnt they would have to only increase the headshot multiplier to ridiculous numbers. That doesnt seem logical. But after all, whats logical in that game.
@@Влад-б7б1ц bornheim is stupid strong in 1v1s up close and medium ranges. It has almost no sway and in a trade situation with anything other than shotguns, you always win as by the time the other guy fired 1 shot, you already fired 3-4. And with fire ammo it's just plain evil. I've been using it with that and I've been destroying people. It's such a cheap gun. I find it even better than dolch as dolch rarely kills with 2 bullets and the recoil is weird while reload speed is SLOOOOOOOW. Bornheim is all that and more for only 180€ now??
Is it just me or could weapon skins cover the range of the gun? Like if you get a skin it's for the base version of the gun and the varieties for it too
This video just made me realize i can buy legendary hunters multiple times.. today i learned. So if i retire one of them, is this legendary hunter still locked out untill i prestige or are the ones i already bought for 200 hunt dollars safe from it?
i think im learning zachta's language. "lets chill, i dont know where the other team is" translates roughly into please pickup your teamates and let me kill you all again please, i even set the crows off so u know u got a clean resurrection.
I love this change since the whole point of hunt's existence is to be a cowboy wild west fps game. Anything that makes people use the lever guns more is a great change in my book.
Oh why did they do that tho ? it's such a weird move, Winfied didn't feel like it needs a buff, it's sucha versatile weapon and it's being played a lot. This change only makes medium ammo pointless even more.
I'm sad my old reliable, the Win Centennial. Is just getting out classed every update, I hope my gun gets a buff soon or I might have to retire. 😱 Love the vid, hope more come soon.
does crytek even test stuff or are they just reading the numbers provided and the change acordingly? i don´t think any sane person would have ever said that the winfield is underpowered for it´s price... but they also made the bornheim literally useless for years untill they suddenly decided to rebuff it again. i got killed 3 times in one evening by dennis (a 6 star hunt dev) one could think he knows the game and it´s weapons after such a long time playing it. xD
worst thing about your videos is that you make it look sooo easy, so when i go ingame i die so fast because my ramboozle it's so hyped that i forget that i'm probably twice your age and 1/3 of the reflexes.... lol.... GG!!
I hate that they're constantly reducing the disparity between medium and small ammo guns. Why take a karabiner, just take Winfield.
They should just increase the penetration depth of medium
Not even the Vetterli. Vetterli is still gonna be fine since it still has that oneshot potential on people lacking small bar (well, at least within 20m, lol) and its kinda cheap. The Centenial tho? Its my favourite gun but after that small ammo buff that weapon will be once again forgotten. I can buy a weapon that does kill at 180m for 157$, or a weapon that kills at 150m, has a scope, has usable levering, is faster and costs around 100$ with hv ammo included.
As much as I like to use all winfields, this is ridiculous. Looks like Crytek really hates medium ammo.
@@tom74769 dude, I've waited forever for them to add the centennial and terminus and they're both just awful guns. Centennial is literally a larger caliber Winfield and it preforms worse in every way. Awful hip fire too with levering which is dumb imo, but hey.... the bullet speed is fast lmao
@@tom74769 And your only downside is its special ammo. But, you carry 3x the reserve ammo which means more ammo on resupply, and you can carry a nagant with even more reserve ammo for about the same price as a pax which sends your reserve through the roof. Once again, Medium ammo's only calling card of having slightly better drop off (And I do mean very slightly because they start at 20 too and are not much better than compact) makes no grounds against the dominance of compact's special ammo types.
@@Slyslug Terminus is almost as good as the C&K since the buff.
4:35 one of the coolest and most underappreciated sounds of HUNT in my opinion is the whispers of the bosses all being unique. If you ever get the chance to listen to the bosses whispering it sounds like something from the Lord of the Rings, such a sick feature
They really all have unique whispers? I never knew this, all i knew was angry whispering = red
@@寝子猫-j4y yes if you ever have a chance to listen to the whispers each bosses “voice” is different while it’s white and red
what is that time stamp
I actually didn't know this
Yeah, one of them straight up sounds like Gollum. I laughed so much the first time I heard it. I think it's the spidey
R.I.P. medium ammo. You only fall further into obscurity and obsolescence.
It's great to show a good loadout, which doesn't cost about 800+ or something. And this loadout sounds like a lot of fun considering the Winfield buff and the reduced costs for Bornheim.
Always enjoy your content. Your a great shot but it's your movement that really works people over
Do not know if you will read this but
Winnie high velocity bow with poison+concertina
If hundred hands/iron repeater
And
Winnie Fmj with dual conversion fmj
If levering
These are my usual Winnie loadouts.
Typically go for headshots with high velocity so no common ammo issues.
@DIBs I'm officially changing the build 😅
At the start it's bow compact Springfield, eventually oberez and eventually a full Mosin nagant with bow now.
For the Winnie I now run swift with velocity and compact winnie with fmj, using Levering for both weapon slots feels pretty good. Iron repeater also is dual purposed. It's almost like having only 1 Winnie but with fast ammo type swap if that makes sense lol. Velocity for head pops and fmj for spray and pray. Maybe I'll try centeniall with small Winnie too but I'm too addicted to swift velocity 😂
27:45: One of the cleanest wipes ive ever seen xD
that was absurd thanks for pointing it out
Other than the Vetterli, doesn't really seem like we should even bother with medium ammo anymore. Most of the guns are just too expensive and small ammo guns literally do the same thing now so...why bother?
Quartermaster
Winnie swift fmj with chain pistol duala fmj and levering perk
Its a cheaper Avtomat with more ammo, faster reloading and better sights.
Well we all know the pax needs hella love, so I feel with 1.10 moving the pax to around level 50 in the bloodline is in prep of upcoming changes. So hopfully when the pax gets some love so does Medium ammo as a whole. Like just increase the damage drop off range for it and maybe the pen damage so it feels a bit beefier then compact but not overtake long
18:34 There you go Rachta I found ammo for u XD
One way I would have medium ammo set apart from compact and long is by making all the medium weapons higher velocity with good penetration, but still moderate/low damage.
Medium ammo is the unloved stepchild of Hunt Showdown.
The only reason to use it is the pretty skins some of the weapons get, other than that there just isn't anything medium ammo weapons do better than their alternatives.
All rounder budget pistol? Officer beats the Spitfire
Good value rifle? Winnie now arguably better value and performance than vetterli/centennial
Ranged backup for your shotgun but uppercut is too expensive? Sparks pistol or Budgetcut (conversion with fmj)
Bleed ammo backup? Why use the pax when the new army fires twice as fast
Really only the scottfield swift for fanning remains as a unique advantage of medium ammo. But most better players prefer the reliable officer over fanning rng anyway
Medium is at the moment only about a bit less damage drop and you get different special ammo for similar weapons/use cases.
The problem with medium ammo weapons is they are always within compact weapons HS range (especially after this patch) and they drop off to a 3 tap too early (70m). The windows where medium is the most effective is 40-60m but long ammo bolts do the same but can go further than 70m away so they are redundant. For medium ammo to be effective compact ammo needs to not 1 shot headshot at around 80-90m (most of them are like this at the moment) and Medium ammo needs to 2 tap up 80-90m.
Spitfire FMJ ist a fast shooting wallbang sidearm over Officer. Veterli Silence is best SIlencer atm. Dualwield Pax bleed is best bleeding Dual Wield. Centenial Sniper is cheapest spam Sniperscope Rifle. There are some medium ammo weapons that have an Edge, they just perform only in edge cases.
Imo they should add Pax Silence, Pax Poison Ammo and Pax High Velocity Ammo, so Medium AMmo gets more intressting again.
@@nexnax8337 Forgot about the Vetterlin Silenced, truly a gun thats the best choice in its class.
Dual wielding Paxs is just far too rng for my taste. I can get the same rate of fire with the new army but have my chance to hit be skill based.
Now personally Im a big centennial fan, but thats purely an emotional attachment. For head bopping the Winnie Marksman is quite frankly superior in every way (imo).
Im also waiting for more pax variants. That gun needs love, the scotfield has largely made it obsolete. Pax Precision Deadeye anyone? A bleed pocket sniper sounds fun to me.
The real MVP of game one is lightfoot, kite skin, and a regen shot. Also every time you ran over that third ammo box while complaining about no ammo boxes I died a little.
12:47 that scared the shit out of me
What I've got from this video: no matter what weapon you use, when you Rachta Z.
looks like ill actuly use the marksmen now ty for the content. not that it matters but scrapbeak droped another ammo or there was a special box, i saw 18:33.
Really good video, i really felt the change that you've mentioned on the last video, about the next ones coming in a better quality
Up the effective range on a rifle with an already insanely tight shoulder aim and high rate of fire. Then make it's near hitscan speeds at compound engagement ranges cheaper. And then revive the bornheim. Budget mosen/dolch indeed.
Yeah the aperture might be a new pick for me, whenever i rolled levering on my starting hunter i would opt for Terminus but i felt like i lacked fire rate for distance cuz i usually took a some revy for free.
"Every good fight, ends with a trade" lol so true
I love a good Winnie+Nagant but it looks like I’ll be taking the bornhiem from now on wth
With it being cheapened and nagant going up it’s like $40 difference
I've been staying away from using aperture weapons because I thought their scope is unusable, and now I hear about that you can switch scopes on X, lmao. Might use them more now.
Same xD gamechanger
Nice
7:16 u didnt mention that one, I can now reload a bornheim fully from no bullets chambered at all.
Haha that first kill at the guy in blanchett tower would have been soft headshot pre 1.10 without FMJ. Talk about leveraging the changes. Good stuff.
Can you explain to me please. That effective range buff only affect headshot one shot or also bodyshots? Because I am a big fan of Winnie with fmj since without it it takes sometimes too many hits to kill someone. And with fmj it’s almost every time 2-3 shots if not headshot. Because it that improves bullet overal damage dropoff then I’m sure going to take high velocity.
Headshot 1 shot range is increased. Body taps drop off is the same
Also wonder. Would like to see some chart. But logically it seems like they are overall buffing the damage dropoff, increasing the two tap potential. If they wouldnt they would have to only increase the headshot multiplier to ridiculous numbers. That doesnt seem logical. But after all, whats logical in that game.
@@tom74769 I have the same logic and hope you are right and not guy above 😅
Bornheim Match with double Nagants for ammo will be destructive now with the reduced cost and no quartmaster required. Looking forward to 1.10
no its not, Bornheim is trash without GodAim levels
@@Влад-б7б1ц bornheim is stupid strong in 1v1s up close and medium ranges.
It has almost no sway and in a trade situation with anything other than shotguns, you always win as by the time the other guy fired 1 shot, you already fired 3-4.
And with fire ammo it's just plain evil. I've been using it with that and I've been destroying people. It's such a cheap gun.
I find it even better than dolch as dolch rarely kills with 2 bullets and the recoil is weird while reload speed is SLOOOOOOOW. Bornheim is all that and more for only 180€ now??
@@kato093 Probably because you only hit arms. Dolch two-taps way further than Bornheim.
Rachta on his way to publicly validate more of my loadout choices 😉
lol ikr. have been experimenting now for two weeks with bornheim and winny
I didn't saw so much winfield potential. I only saw a fucking legend killing half server with a little borheim full of HS.
this has been my go to loadout for so long im glad it got buffed
Is it just me or could weapon skins cover the range of the gun? Like if you get a skin it's for the base version of the gun and the varieties for it too
Been wanting to use the Bornheim match so with the price decrease I'll start using it.
This video just made me realize i can buy legendary hunters multiple times.. today i learned. So if i retire one of them, is this legendary hunter still locked out untill i prestige or are the ones i already bought for 200 hunt dollars safe from it?
i think im learning zachta's language. "lets chill, i dont know where the other team is" translates roughly into please pickup your teamates and let me kill you all again please, i even set the crows off so u know u got a clean resurrection.
the best secondary became even stronger! nice church wipe! :)
Any love for nagant carbine?
Why I can buy only 3 perks and not 4 ? And how I get mockingbird pistol ?
Which secondary weapon to get in this build (or perhaps use diff loadout) until I get upgrade points so I can equip medium gun?
Could do vandal deadeye + bornheim match
Does more Headshot range also means less damage droppoff in general? The weapon stats in hunt confuse me :D
No, just the hs range
no.
Does it also effect the damage over distance like fmj or just headshot range?
Just hs range
Man, compact ammo is wildly cheap and with an increased effective range the winfield be smashing.
crispy clean video quality and a great video overall. GG
I love this change since the whole point of hunt's existence is to be a cowboy wild west fps game. Anything that makes people use the lever guns more is a great change in my book.
Mosin obrez and Caldwell handcannon is pretty good c:
I suppose since the range is the same as the beetle, if you're unsure whether you can kill from a certain range, you can send the beetle out to check.
14:19 Is this even legal? Sick play mah dude!
You move around Fort like fucking batman.
so your saying your gonna win the next tournament with the WINfeild?
Had to sun because your loadout told me to. Always amazing videos. Keep up the great work!
did they increase max bodyshot damage range too or just headshot range on the compact guns?
headshot range
21:24 What is the name of the song?
bulletgrubber at 4 trait points nice.
Finally I can see those sexy animations!
I bought the hyper cloud 2 man it's better than my other hs thanks for having it description
when you play on the test server. Will KDA, and hunt levels carry over to the live build?
No, sir.
@@tugbandi ty
Is the Musket Bayonet ever going to be worth it?
Edit: I mean, could it be worth it for this loadout?
the ending at Fort made me cry
Who is this new hunter with the rope bundle across his chest?
Rachta on his way to get the dirtiest of kills
Next step will be the "balancing" for the Winfield by price and it's gonna cost 300 Hunt dollars.
Those bornheim head shot kills dang man XD!
"He can sometimes drop like 5 or something.." My brother in Christ, you have received nearly 40 rounds from him already....
People seem to forget, that its only good for headshots. Shoots the body from the distance and you might even need 3-4 shots to kill.
It can still 2 tap to body at 20m
26:10 first time I've seen Rachta mad
new to game how to you have 141 traits on the champ, but it says there all lvl 1? Thank in advance.
Mr chary can give trait points
Awsome gameplay from you 👊
Do you have jump and vault on different keybinds?
Yes, space for jump and V for vault
if you type steady aim into the weapon box the nitro comes up?
No
A Rachta classic!!! I take my hat off to you Sir…
They are truly turning this into Call of Duty, slowly but surely.
no one going to talk about those 141 skill trait points??😂😂😂😂😂
Oh why did they do that tho ? it's such a weird move, Winfied didn't feel like it needs a buff, it's sucha versatile weapon and it's being played a lot. This change only makes medium ammo pointless even more.
What would be the best way to give feedback to crytek? They might listen to the community
Probably reddit and hoping youll get lot of upvotes
How do you hide your top of screen banner messages when bosses get banished?
Objective status in HUD settings
I'm sad my old reliable, the Win Centennial. Is just getting out classed every update, I hope my gun gets a buff soon or I might have to retire. 😱 Love the vid, hope more come soon.
In your hands everything can be meta
17:23: The accuracy of that transition was clean!
what transition?
27:56
When you took the bounty, did you recover 50 HP? Is it because of the skill?
Its trait, conduit
@@RachtaZ thanks!
I didn't Believe it until I tried it out. What a headshot machine this load out is. Good synergy.
It's fc Unbelievable how you play the game and your aim Crazy Respekt mann 👍
your aim is insane!
I really dislike these changes. The Winfield was arguably the best weapon in the game already. Compact didn't need buff at all IMO
Finally… Time to go back for musket variant.
that 14:25 was fun
Some good info here
WINFIELD HEADSHOT RANGE?!!! HYPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Dudeee u have noo fken idea how many times I GOT out of range headshots with that thing..........
Wait what, steady aim works with aperture??
yes! not with nitro tho
You could also officer pistol if you don’t care for bornheim. Like me.
Well, for me it says 95m.. they changed it back?
It's coming 1.10 update
25:52 that wall bang head shot tho , 100% Reported XD , i replayed it like 20 times with my headset max volume, i dont get how you knew he was there.
Rachta when he assumes trash like me can actually hit headshots XD
Hard counter to Rachta Z is the game's bugs itself only lmao. 6:49
just amazing
does crytek even test stuff or are they just reading the numbers provided and the change acordingly? i don´t think any sane person would have ever said that the winfield is underpowered for it´s price...
but they also made the bornheim literally useless for years untill they suddenly decided to rebuff it again.
i got killed 3 times in one evening by dennis (a 6 star hunt dev) one could think he knows the game and it´s weapons after such a long time playing it. xD
Bro this was just ridiculous to watch you're insane. Please do a tutorial showing your mouse/hand movements.
That first battle was Ultra+
I hate that i jumped at 12:47 lol hate shotguns but love using them
pure entertainment!
worst thing about your videos is that you make it look sooo easy, so when i go ingame i die so fast because my ramboozle it's so hyped that i forget that i'm probably twice your age and 1/3 of the reflexes.... lol....
GG!!
Aperture >>>> Marksman though xD
Its like they’re trying to kill the game