I love Sethlas but her breaking the mirror during the lip sync came off unprofessional for me. That’s very dangerous for the other person on the stage. And you can tell Juriji was trying to avoid that part of the stage. If you were performing by yourself then go ahead do whatever you want. But don’t do something that is going to physically hurt someone else when lip syncing.
Ngl it was weird for me in the moment even but looking back it should be a DQ or atleast reset the lipsync… because that is not safe AT ALL lol there’s like thousands of glass shards all over the stage
True. But in all fairness, whenever a queen tears apart their costume and throws the fabric on the floor, it becomes a tripping hazard. Hell, Kylie did it to herself. Or when Chi Chi threw all of her pearls loose on the ground? Huge tripping hazard especially because of their size. Scarlet Envy brought scissors to a lip sync against Ra’jah to cut her garment but that’s definitely not safe. Jan broke the goddamn stage and also glass lightbulbs against Silky. The girls break tons of OSHA violations while performing!
@@furby9284 this is recorded in Spain. Safety regulations are different and, dare I say, stricter here. I was BAFFLED when I saw they let the lipsync go on, it was really disappointing. I’m pretty sure that their contact keeps them from suing the show, even in the event of threat to their health. If I were Juriji, I’d try to get compensation from that, honestly
@@furby9284I agree, calling out one violation in a SEA of them seems kinda odd. Also look at their talent shows, some of the international seasons have THE wildest shit going on, hella fire, the acrobatics up in the air etc, like... So many things can go wrong, worse than a cut at that.
What I’ve noticed is the girls who wanted to be “fair” on UKVTW all wanted to vote keta out… who’s been doing better than jonbers? Watch them be mad at scarlet …
I am so relieved she's gone. The who voted for me schtick the previous episode made me so annoyed. Also couldn't imagine another snatch game with her in it lol
I think Keta is probably struggling with the language barrier. Sure, she’s clearly a fluent English speaker but it’s much harder to be funny in a different language than people think, no matter how well you speak. There’s always that slight lag going on in your brain which makes it really hard to be quick witted, not to mention just the disparity between how your mouth moves while speaking your native language vs English.
i've been saying this during the last season!! language barrier is still a thing even when a non native english speaker claims to be fluent, also when it comes to references in culture. which is also why non uk and us queens didn't feel the need to include their country while the others did
And it's funny to think that bc she literally won snatch game doing a English speaking character. But still... She's so timid on this season. She wasn't like that on DR Holland
Sagittaria is 100% being gaslit. Sethlas is being pushed as well. Also for sethlas to say onyx shouldn’t have gone home and that pupi was “playing the game”. Girl, and the translation aren’t 100%. Love the drama but I feel like if you understand Spanish, it all comes of different.
idk bout y'all but i got lust from sagittaria's outfit.. like was it perfect? no but i mean sethlas slapped mirrors on a corset and called it a day (it was falling apart might i add). It was predictable, underwhelming, and I can't help but feel like the judges are showcasing some favouritism..
The story for Sethlas' second look is that on 2017, after winning the Gran Canaria Carnival Drag Gala with a religious-themed performance in which she was the Virgin Mary/Jesus Christ, she was attacked by politicians, the church, and particularly the Association of Christian Attorneys (ACA), a hyper conservative think tank that sued her for "offending religious sensibilities" and even brought her to court. She won the case ultimately, but it still was a very traumatic experience to live through.
26:20 I disagree, i think LGD scenes with fashion sell her pretty well, as she is THE booked Fashion girl in France. Also, her scenes were very French/european Humor, the American/Rupaul POV won’t get it as much. She should’ve been safe.
I got the humor, but it still felt disjointed. I think if her transitions from one scene to another were a bit smoother then she would’ve at least been safe.
On España I think it was just insane to me that they aired Ana’s comment to Sethlas about not making something that shows too much body and that she wants an actual garment?? Like her outfit was quite literally what Ana told her NOT to do, so that + Sagittaria having 3 amazing looks and her garment was constructed well & gave lust imo. Just a really strange episode tbh!! It’s strange bc I don’t agree with the childish behavior from Sagi in Untucked, but I do commend her for speaking up about the BS from the judges
I don't see it as childish behavior at all, she was just disappointed on behalf of Pakita as well, because she felt they put so much more work into it than Sethlas.
I agree. I was confused with Ana’s direction, yet Sethlas gave what Ana said not to do. But Ana’s emotions for the second look made her forget that, I guess.
@@marekvojtko1846I think the same, she was brave enough to say what many people are thinking, does it have to come out super calm and collected to be valid? , no.
i don't think sagi's look gave lust in the slightest, and clearly neither did the judges, or any of the other girls for that matter. at the end of the day the brief wasn't to make a well constructed garment, the brief was to make a garment that represented your sin. sethlas did that nearly perfectly, and sagi didn't. it's really that simple imo.
I think the general consenses is, that everyone seems to agree with Sagittaria. The queens and the fandom. Sethlas' outfit was falling apart (the knee thing literally fell on the floor), she showed her breasticles once again, not applying the critiques she got. And all of this is amplified by this being her 3rd win in a row, which makes people extra cautious of her. Such an outstanding track record needs to be backed up by outstanding performances, which this was not one of them. Sagittaria feels like the production made up their mind about the winner, and realizing that is frustrating. Her and Pupi made up after a long conversation, ending with Pupi apologizing to Sagittaria. Also, another drama was Sethlas breaking the mirror in the lipsync, making Juriji bleed during the lipsync with cuts all over her body.
Sorry but not everyone agrees with Sagi. Sethlas is receiving an outstanding amount of hate because of Sagi's toxic fandom. Sethlas is destroying the competition no matter what people say.
@@mafoxy0316 maybe you are taking your "general consensus" from biased sources because I can assure you there is no consensus at all. Some people think she is right some people are glad to see her go.
Okay, but y’all literally admitted that her outfit was the best constructed, and her first two outfits in my opinion were some of the best. I think it was close enough to one of the sins and it was a stunning garment, so I still think she should’ve won.
Yeah constructed well but "close enough to one of the sins" isnt true, first of all one of? It was a specific 1 sin she had to do and didnt do it at all, they put it well in the video cause it looks more like a completly different sin, not even close apart from the colour red and honestly looking at it, it really isnt the most well constructed garment of the night, have your opinion ofcorse but dont be lying to yourself
Girl it doesn’t matter if her garment matched another one of the sins. She didn’t do her assigned categories. They do colors as ball categories all the time but a queen is never gonna win if they come out in the best look ever if it’s white and they were assigned green. She didn’t do the challenge. And Sethlas’ first two looks were far and away better than Sagitarria’s. Y’all Sagi stans have been just as delulu as her 😭
@@br6735like mera said: "a red look doesn't make lust". The whip also felt more like an afterthought to me since she noticed that her dress doesn't give lust at all.
Fun fact anyone not aware before Choriza May was on her season she was active in a Simpsons DragRace meme group on facebook with her Yellow Mother and had the whole group supporting her for her season. Her Marge has been an iconic part of her drag for years and it was such a delight to see it on the main stage after she wasn't allowed to do it for snatch game last time.
Not you guys being on los javis’ payroll too! Sagittaria saw the favoritism that the audience also saw in S3 and how mistreated other queens were (clover and visa) and Sagittaria was brave enough to call it out. She’s not being a baby, she’s standing on business.
Keta’s paint is because the Netherlands is known for having a lot of influential painters - she referenced Van Gogh, but there’s also the Dutch masters. Did it work? No, but that’s what she was going for
The girls who were mad at Scarlet last week because they wanted to be "fair" are the same girls who wanted to send Keta who has a better track record than Jombers....I smell some hypocrytes.
you should really try and read a little about the 13 Rosas story which Pakita referenced with her wrath look. if you know it (which is a pretty important and well known moment of Spanish history here) you can really get the look and it actually represents the wrath. and also it's really well made and she totally sold the look. she should've been the top2 with juriji honestly. shetlas's pride look was literally falling apart on the runway and it was just broken mirrors glued on a corset she already had from home... she didn't deserve the bottom at all but be serious for a moment, it wasn't a good look
@@VitorCaetanoNH oh they definitely knew it, they just didn't say it or they didn't put it in the edit so they could justify their decission to eliminate Pakita. Juriji already made a look inspired by the story in season 2 (actually the look she was eliminated in) and it's constantly referenced in popular culture, specially in queer/feminist spaces. just past january a song which talked about it was an option to represent Spain in Eurovision.
Best take about Sethlas. I thought Samantha did amazing as well, maybe top 3 material. I love Sethlas, but it's starting to feel as if she will be pushed no matter what, as with Pitita last season.
Look, I’m a great fan of Sethlas, I knew who she was before season 2, and I agree that her hell look was one of the best looks on Drag Race, period, but that sin look was not the tea. I’m not going to repeat what’s been said over and over, but I’ll say this. It’s not even flattering to her body! The way she complemented the corset-with-mirror-pieces-stuck-to-it with that hip piece makes her shorter and stockier, instead of elongating her as basically all of her other looks.
Kita and Anita together!!! A winner and miss congeniality. From what I understand they have literally hosted a drag competition before (that Electra shock as on) so it’s a no brainer
I literally thought the Top 2 would be Hannah and La Grand Dame. I can understand having LGD lose points for taking too much time, but she had one of the funniest sketches. And her runway was amazing. And a gaggy reveal.
I always find it SO frustrating when we see particular queens struggling in the challenge BUT the struggle isn't that obvious on the final edit and they end up safe or worse winning! I really felt for Jonbots getting left at the end with little time which wasn't her fault 😢
Hornella's first 2 looks were based on Christian martyr Saint Sebastian, and Anubis in Egyptian mythology. They may not've been the most polished looks, but at least they had an interesting point of view with cultural references. I don't think that Mera or Scarlett knew anything about those references.
i was just about to say, a hell category does NOT imply a concept of hell in western culture (or it would be better to say abrahamic religions). it doesn't have to necessarily feature flames, demonic creatures etc. hornella's look definitely reads hell.
S16 needs another branding challenge, a panel challenge, a political challenge, a roast, an acting challenge cmon! Production really likes Q, Nymphia, and Dawn and I wonder if that’s why they’re doing so many design challenges close together.
@@charlielew2933 yes there were 4 I believe, hair ball, money ball, Christmas design, and the cake/dessert design challenge. And you’re right Raja is versatile enough that production throwing her a bone with the design challenges didn’t matter. Nymphia and Q I do not believe to be that versatile though unfortunately :(
I’m really loving ukvstw2 i think its partially as i hit my burnout era but i feel exited to watch drag race every week for the first time since as7. The judging is off tho i agree
it was a messy concept. branding challenge plus you have to sell drag race world. one thing that popped into my mind was a workshop type where you are introducing people to drag race world via workshop. you can have the marina experience where she would teach someone maybe fashion and choreo. then you have the keta experience where you learn stunts and fierceness (i don't know). then you have the tia experience where she's basically doing the same thing she already did where she's doing fashion and making fun of her old ones or the other two chiming in and shaking their heads on her adivce or something. i love that marina's outfits can stand on their own without reveals. those were two different looks that look awesome. usually when you have a reveal the first outfit is so so then reveal is better or the first outfit is better then they reveal to a bathing suit.
Yeah…maybe it should’ve been selling DragCon instead of an amusement park type of thing. Like, “create a DragCon itinerary centered around the people in your group”, instead.
Scarlet (with one T) is probably blossoming since she has the strongest relationship with Ru and a real chance to win. Thoughts on some show names: The Daily Mangle, Mera & Gals, The Mangle Ru-view, Mangle Nation
No one is talking about the shade of sethlas choosing sagi to go home over onyx. Clearly sagi is the bigger competitor and I’m surprised everyone just accepted sethlas not playing “fair”. That would be a red flag to me so early in the competition and made me feel like if sethlas gets eliminated she has it coming (very pangina tease)
I'm sorry but how was Pakita not 'showing up'?! Just because she was overlooked (again) she deserved to go home? Excuse your mouths. I disagree so much with your take on this ball, to be honest, cause the judges are playing favourites again this season. And also, Pupi kinda gave up this episode (although she had the worst materials to work with), so wouldn't feel too bad about sending her packing.
Keta’s bit about Holland is related to all the art museums in Amsterdam which Amsterdam is really famous for, the Van Gogh museum (which she referenced) lead her to the painting which transformed into her contestant queen’s outfit.. I got the concept. But I am Dutch (and I know Keta quite well. I didn’t think she was bad and she had one of the best runway looks this week with gorgeous reveals! Also all the girls throwing her under the bus under the guise of saving the strongest queen when Keta only last week was in the top position, it made no sense what so ever…
Mera and Scarlett are like Michelle in that they do not really understand European culture. As someone from Europe, I understood what Keta (and La Grande Dame) were doing, and I've been to the Van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam. Maybe Michelle, Mera and Scarlett should do some research before judging European queens.
I'm not European but I understood as well. Van Gogh was said so I don't know how people are confused. Maybe they missed it? I don't think it was particularly funny but at least I got it.
I understood where Keta was coming from too but I still think Ketas was on the weaker end. I think her and jonbers were just the least funny. LGDs was a bit of a stretch too but her little impressions made me laugh at least.
@@DarkAngel459what do famous artists and museums in Amsterdam have to do with Keta’s brand aside from being where she’s from? That’s the issue, not the references
i'm so excited to see scarlet have an AS6 jan moment realizing her strategy of trying to play fair (which she specifically referred to in her speech) isn't going to work out because of the group's opinions on that elimination 😭😭
Settles is literally pushing all the narrative along with Samantha… they have been praised and pushed this whole time. Sagitarria was just over it. She really got into her own head. She already felt like quitting but didn’t want to seem weak. Same as why she acting maybe snobbish or childish in some peoples eyes. She clearly doesn’t know how to be vulnerable, but I know for sure that she teared up as soon as she was alone.
i could be misremembering, but didn't gia metric do a similar look for sloth on season 2 of canada's drag race? maybe i'm mixing up her look with courtney act's from season 6, but i feel like we just saw that kind of look from a design challenge.
I am so sad to see you did not understand at all what Sagittaria shared. First of all, in balls when there is a sewing challenge as well, that last handmade look should be at least 50/60% of the overall performance in the episode. What's the point of having the queens creating a look from scratch if at the end other looks brought from home have more influence in the outcome of the episode? Sethlas last look was genuinely bad. He even said in tucked that he does not know how to sew at all and the outfit was just a corset with pieces of mirrors glued to it. He should have been just safe even if the other looks were great (not excellent as Juriji). At the same time, Sagi had 2 great looks as well brought from home and a look that seemed well constructed and somehow also reminded to the Capital Sin she was assigned to. What's the point of giving another win to the front runner when we have passed half of the season? At the same time, Pakita's 3rd look looked great even if the other two were just fine so her spot in the bottom could have been switched with Samantha or Hornella. Sagittaria was just honest about her quite valid perception of a well known already rigged judging decision in this franchise.
I totally thought they put LGD in the top and Gothy in the bottom... I just misread the edit and it felt like they picked a top bottom and middle for each group.
I don't think the airline theme for Drag Race World was a bad idea at all. It is UK vs the World after all. It's just that their concepts felt disjointed. Keta's didn't make sense. Marina's was coherent, but there wasn't enough. Tia's wasn't on theme, but she was at least funny.
Some serious delusion going on with Mangled Morning today when it comes to UKvTW. La Grand Dame was chaotic but very funny, Scarlet was very professional but dull and the whole runway was underwhelming at best bar Marina.
44th Good Mangled Sunday afternoon - Mera & Scarlet! MWHAA xo :) I thought Drag Sethlus Runway was Representing the Paparazzi being Vultures putting their Microphones in your face? Am I wrong...?
I m french and given the huge following behind LGD and her first 2 wins I fully believe she was prevented from being in the bottom because they were afraid of the French fans Going on strike lol. I fully thought se was going to be in the bottom and get the Jimbo treatment
UK vs The World doesn't seem good enough, like it doesn't seem worth it. Apart from Grande Dame and Marina, the show is lacking.(so far, imo). Love you Mera and Scarlett with two T's. xoxo
Am I the only one who thought Hornella was perfectly safe? I really love her and her energy, so I might be biased here, but seeing people putting her in the bottom is such a stretch for me. Her first look was fine, and I appreciated that the bodice looked good and it didn't give me bodice. I really loved the vibe of her second look, especially with the mask (I personally would've loved a pattern from her wet hair, after the reveal). And the third look might not have been a show-stopper, but it was well constructed. And it was a complete look, head to toe. Like, if I understand that Sethlas can be in the top with an incomplete look, I can understand that Hornella is perfectly safe with a good, albeit boring look.
Unfortunately some of the queer Spanish fandom can be quite toxic. I really hope their passion can exist for the show while respecting that others (including the judges) can have different opinions. Sagittaria constructed a well-put together garment but it didn't meet the brief. And while Sethlas' final look wasn't great construction, it sold the brief and their first two looks were incredible. Sethlas also had what could be THE LOOK of perhaps the entire season. The experiences of their fellow queens speaks volumes.
Idk why everyone is defending Sagi so hard. She didn't do as well as Sethlas! Even if Sethlas hadn't been in the top 2, it doesn't mean Sagi would have been. I think people just want to complain that it's rigged because Sethlas is doing so well. She's pulling a Sasha Colby and people somehow don't think it's good to be good??
Espana All Stars is such a flop. They cast it so weirdly, its not enough to be a great drag queen outside the competition (Samantha, Pupi, Sethlas) you have to be fun to watch and for me this cast is not it, I wish we could have had Hugaceo, Marina, Venedita, Clover, Killer, Estrella etc instead. Even my Fave Juriji isn't shining as much as she usually does as she has no one to banter or spar with. Boring season
Funny, one of the Javi said the same thing as you said about Sagittaria is the "most pop ready". And you said what Hornella said, that Sagitarria should have been envy. You're in their heads Mera!
I love Sethlas but her breaking the mirror during the lip sync came off unprofessional for me. That’s very dangerous for the other person on the stage. And you can tell Juriji was trying to avoid that part of the stage. If you were performing by yourself then go ahead do whatever you want. But don’t do something that is going to physically hurt someone else when lip syncing.
juriji actually did cut herself (she tweeted about it and in this weeks episode you can see her bleeding a little still when they go backstage)
Ngl it was weird for me in the moment even but looking back it should be a DQ or atleast reset the lipsync… because that is not safe AT ALL lol there’s like thousands of glass shards all over the stage
True. But in all fairness, whenever a queen tears apart their costume and throws the fabric on the floor, it becomes a tripping hazard. Hell, Kylie did it to herself. Or when Chi Chi threw all of her pearls loose on the ground? Huge tripping hazard especially because of their size. Scarlet Envy brought scissors to a lip sync against Ra’jah to cut her garment but that’s definitely not safe. Jan broke the goddamn stage and also glass lightbulbs against Silky. The girls break tons of OSHA violations while performing!
@@furby9284 this is recorded in Spain. Safety regulations are different and, dare I say, stricter here. I was BAFFLED when I saw they let the lipsync go on, it was really disappointing. I’m pretty sure that their contact keeps them from suing the show, even in the event of threat to their health. If I were Juriji, I’d try to get compensation from that, honestly
@@furby9284I agree, calling out one violation in a SEA of them seems kinda odd. Also look at their talent shows, some of the international seasons have THE wildest shit going on, hella fire, the acrobatics up in the air etc, like... So many things can go wrong, worse than a cut at that.
What I’ve noticed is the girls who wanted to be “fair” on UKVTW all wanted to vote keta out… who’s been doing better than jonbers? Watch them be mad at scarlet …
right?? wtf 🥴
see and that’s why I’m thinking there’s some backstage drama or ruffling of feathers we’re not getting
I am so relieved she's gone. The who voted for me schtick the previous episode made me so annoyed. Also couldn't imagine another snatch game with her in it lol
Do you think they will say that they want to vote jonbers with all the uk queens there, girl they are just playing the game too
Right! Make it make sense? Why voting Keta out
I refuse to believe Gothy was high, she was stiff as hell! Hannah and Choriza were easily in the top over her.
Agree. They definitely just wanted to critique her to round out her story line
I think Keta is probably struggling with the language barrier. Sure, she’s clearly a fluent English speaker but it’s much harder to be funny in a different language than people think, no matter how well you speak. There’s always that slight lag going on in your brain which makes it really hard to be quick witted, not to mention just the disparity between how your mouth moves while speaking your native language vs English.
i've been saying this during the last season!! language barrier is still a thing even when a non native english speaker claims to be fluent, also when it comes to references in culture. which is also why non uk and us queens didn't feel the need to include their country while the others did
And it's funny to think that bc she literally won snatch game doing a English speaking character. But still... She's so timid on this season. She wasn't like that on DR Holland
Sagittaria is 100% being gaslit. Sethlas is being pushed as well. Also for sethlas to say onyx shouldn’t have gone home and that pupi was “playing the game”. Girl, and the translation aren’t 100%. Love the drama but I feel like if you understand Spanish, it all comes of different.
idk bout y'all but i got lust from sagittaria's outfit.. like was it perfect? no but i mean sethlas slapped mirrors on a corset and called it a day (it was falling apart might i add). It was predictable, underwhelming, and I can't help but feel like the judges are showcasing some favouritism..
EXACTLY
Sethlas break glass on the stage and juriji end up bleeding for that...
What I dislike about Espana is just how obvious they make the winner/finale queens, they don't hide their favoritism at all
they produce the episodes to justify outcomes as opposed to receiving outcomes from the queens work :/
It’s Sethlas Drag Race through and through.
Yeah its just disappointing :/@@turner_witt
The story for Sethlas' second look is that on 2017, after winning the Gran Canaria Carnival Drag Gala with a religious-themed performance in which she was the Virgin Mary/Jesus Christ, she was attacked by politicians, the church, and particularly the Association of Christian Attorneys (ACA), a hyper conservative think tank that sued her for "offending religious sensibilities" and even brought her to court. She won the case ultimately, but it still was a very traumatic experience to live through.
sobbed watching her runway. nobody can convince she didn’t deserve a top placement
La Grande Dame's part had me in tears, I was so sure she was in the top and high and Gothy was in the bottom.
girl me too... when rupaul called the safe girls, your conclusion was the only thing that made sense to me 😂
tbh the blond brtt crew member should have won the challenge
I SAID THE SAME THING!!
LOL that's what they said on Binge Queens 😂😂
@@beevonerd glad im not alone also thx reminding me watch binge queens😀
@@BasssTable Haha yw. Its actually been super cute, Angeria is a dr STAN for sure. I feel seen bc she said she watches all the szns.
ikr he acted better than most of the girls lmao
26:20 I disagree, i think LGD scenes with fashion sell her pretty well, as she is THE booked Fashion girl in France. Also, her scenes were very French/european Humor, the American/Rupaul POV won’t get it as much. She should’ve been safe.
I got the humor, but it still felt disjointed. I think if her transitions from one scene to another were a bit smoother then she would’ve at least been safe.
On España I think it was just insane to me that they aired Ana’s comment to Sethlas about not making something that shows too much body and that she wants an actual garment?? Like her outfit was quite literally what Ana told her NOT to do, so that + Sagittaria having 3 amazing looks and her garment was constructed well & gave lust imo. Just a really strange episode tbh!! It’s strange bc I don’t agree with the childish behavior from Sagi in Untucked, but I do commend her for speaking up about the BS from the judges
I don't see it as childish behavior at all, she was just disappointed on behalf of Pakita as well, because she felt they put so much more work into it than Sethlas.
@@marekvojtko1846if you watch the most recent episode, you can really tell that unfortunately she was having childish behavior
I agree. I was confused with Ana’s direction, yet Sethlas gave what Ana said not to do. But Ana’s emotions for the second look made her forget that, I guess.
@@marekvojtko1846I think the same, she was brave enough to say what many people are thinking, does it have to come out super calm and collected to be valid? , no.
i don't think sagi's look gave lust in the slightest, and clearly neither did the judges, or any of the other girls for that matter. at the end of the day the brief wasn't to make a well constructed garment, the brief was to make a garment that represented your sin. sethlas did that nearly perfectly, and sagi didn't. it's really that simple imo.
I think the general consenses is, that everyone seems to agree with Sagittaria. The queens and the fandom. Sethlas' outfit was falling apart (the knee thing literally fell on the floor), she showed her breasticles once again, not applying the critiques she got. And all of this is amplified by this being her 3rd win in a row, which makes people extra cautious of her. Such an outstanding track record needs to be backed up by outstanding performances, which this was not one of them. Sagittaria feels like the production made up their mind about the winner, and realizing that is frustrating.
Her and Pupi made up after a long conversation, ending with Pupi apologizing to Sagittaria. Also, another drama was Sethlas breaking the mirror in the lipsync, making Juriji bleed during the lipsync with cuts all over her body.
Sorry but not everyone agrees with Sagi. Sethlas is receiving an outstanding amount of hate because of Sagi's toxic fandom. Sethlas is destroying the competition no matter what people say.
I said general consenses, not the whole world@@pablolasagamota6215
@@pablolasagamota6215 not at all lol, the general consensus IS that i'm afraid even non sagittaria fans agree with her
@@mafoxy0316 maybe you are taking your "general consensus" from biased sources because I can assure you there is no consensus at all. Some people think she is right some people are glad to see her go.
@@pablolasagamota6215 well guess what mimi, we said what we said, the gurl shouldn'thave won PERIOD. Bye
MARINA'S LOOKS WERE ASTOUNDINGLY GORGEOUS!!❤❤❤💋💋💋👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
i’m on sagittaria’s side actually! we know since S3 of DRE, the judges have some favorites and thats upsetting
Okay, but y’all literally admitted that her outfit was the best constructed, and her first two outfits in my opinion were some of the best. I think it was close enough to one of the sins and it was a stunning garment, so I still think she should’ve won.
Yeah constructed well but "close enough to one of the sins" isnt true, first of all one of? It was a specific 1 sin she had to do and didnt do it at all, they put it well in the video cause it looks more like a completly different sin, not even close apart from the colour red and honestly looking at it, it really isnt the most well constructed garment of the night, have your opinion ofcorse but dont be lying to yourself
Girl it doesn’t matter if her garment matched another one of the sins. She didn’t do her assigned categories. They do colors as ball categories all the time but a queen is never gonna win if they come out in the best look ever if it’s white and they were assigned green. She didn’t do the challenge. And Sethlas’ first two looks were far and away better than Sagitarria’s. Y’all Sagi stans have been just as delulu as her 😭
It was well made but literally what about the dress says lust? Quickly
@@jinschnee
The BDSM representation? The red that represents sexiness?
@@br6735like mera said: "a red look doesn't make lust". The whip also felt more like an afterthought to me since she noticed that her dress doesn't give lust at all.
Fun fact anyone not aware before Choriza May was on her season she was active in a Simpsons DragRace meme group on facebook with her Yellow Mother and had the whole group supporting her for her season. Her Marge has been an iconic part of her drag for years and it was such a delight to see it on the main stage after she wasn't allowed to do it for snatch game last time.
Not you guys being on los javis’ payroll too! Sagittaria saw the favoritism that the audience also saw in S3 and how mistreated other queens were (clover and visa) and Sagittaria was brave enough to call it out. She’s not being a baby, she’s standing on business.
Keta’s paint is because the Netherlands is known for having a lot of influential painters - she referenced Van Gogh, but there’s also the Dutch masters. Did it work? No, but that’s what she was going for
Happy 601st episode!🎉💖 (I figured so many others would acknowledge the 600)
The girls who were mad at Scarlet last week because they wanted to be "fair" are the same girls who wanted to send Keta who has a better track record than Jombers....I smell some hypocrytes.
Gothy was a very solid 5th. She did not deserve that third place spot over Hannah or Choriza.
Yeah, Gothy was 4th/5th for me as well. I thought she did well, but not well enough for a top 3 placement.
“Giving you a Spankie” - Scarlett 😂
you should really try and read a little about the 13 Rosas story which Pakita referenced with her wrath look. if you know it (which is a pretty important and well known moment of Spanish history here) you can really get the look and it actually represents the wrath. and also it's really well made and she totally sold the look. she should've been the top2 with juriji honestly. shetlas's pride look was literally falling apart on the runway and it was just broken mirrors glued on a corset she already had from home... she didn't deserve the bottom at all but be serious for a moment, it wasn't a good look
I didn't know this story, but neither did the judges, I think, as they also wasn't convinced this was a good representation for the sin
@@VitorCaetanoNH oh they definitely knew it, they just didn't say it or they didn't put it in the edit so they could justify their decission to eliminate Pakita. Juriji already made a look inspired by the story in season 2 (actually the look she was eliminated in) and it's constantly referenced in popular culture, specially in queer/feminist spaces. just past january a song which talked about it was an option to represent Spain in Eurovision.
Best take about Sethlas. I thought Samantha did amazing as well, maybe top 3 material. I love Sethlas, but it's starting to feel as if she will be pushed no matter what, as with Pitita last season.
Look, I’m a great fan of Sethlas, I knew who she was before season 2, and I agree that her hell look was one of the best looks on Drag Race, period, but that sin look was not the tea. I’m not going to repeat what’s been said over and over, but I’ll say this. It’s not even flattering to her body! The way she complemented the corset-with-mirror-pieces-stuck-to-it with that hip piece makes her shorter and stockier, instead of elongating her as basically all of her other looks.
They did to drag sethlas the same as with gotmik during her ball...the look she made was passable, but the 1st two were amazing
Calling a corset and her outfit breaking apart while on the runway passable..girl. lol
I thought the same thing when watching it!
Not to mention falling apart
Why would they not choose one of their past winners to host Down Under? Kita has such host energy I feel
Kita and Anita together!!! A winner and miss congeniality. From what I understand they have literally hosted a drag competition before (that Electra shock as on) so it’s a no brainer
I literally thought the Top 2 would be Hannah and La Grand Dame. I can understand having LGD lose points for taking too much time, but she had one of the funniest sketches. And her runway was amazing. And a gaggy reveal.
I always find it SO frustrating when we see particular queens struggling in the challenge BUT the struggle isn't that obvious on the final edit and they end up safe or worse winning!
I really felt for Jonbots getting left at the end with little time which wasn't her fault 😢
Hornella's first 2 looks were based on Christian martyr Saint Sebastian, and Anubis in Egyptian mythology. They may not've been the most polished looks, but at least they had an interesting point of view with cultural references. I don't think that Mera or Scarlett knew anything about those references.
i was just about to say, a hell category does NOT imply a concept of hell in western culture (or it would be better to say abrahamic religions). it doesn't have to necessarily feature flames, demonic creatures etc. hornella's look definitely reads hell.
@@laincoubert7236 can we appreciate the fine irony that the only queen who didn’t reference the western devil is the one with “horn” in her name? LOL
The Van Gogh museum is in Amsterdam. That’s what she was going for.
S16 needs another branding challenge, a panel challenge, a political challenge, a roast, an acting challenge cmon! Production really likes Q, Nymphia, and Dawn and I wonder if that’s why they’re doing so many design challenges close together.
It’s giving very season 3. Weren’t there like 6 design challenges that season? But Raja still did super well in most of the other challenges as well.
@@charlielew2933 yes there were 4 I believe, hair ball, money ball, Christmas design, and the cake/dessert design challenge. And you’re right Raja is versatile enough that production throwing her a bone with the design challenges didn’t matter. Nymphia and Q I do not believe to be that versatile though unfortunately :(
Jonbers could have literally been in the Irish countryside giving sight seeing tours for Enya....it wrtes itself.
Y'all two on crack tonight for liking Seth's breaking apart outfit and saying it went with pride. Girllll. Lololol bye
I love a neverending mangle morning! Double episodes on Sundays have been a highlight for me, makes my weekly meal prep much more enjoyable ❤
Marina’s runway is in reference to Miss Universe 2018 Catriona Gray’s iconic Lava Gown.
Messing La grande Dame and Scarlett on the same night? Jail, honey!
double episodes today aaaah! tysm for feeding us
I’m really loving ukvstw2 i think its partially as i hit my burnout era but i feel exited to watch drag race every week for the first time since as7. The judging is off tho i agree
You need to watch UK 5 then. Easily the best series last year.
@@sammccormick9109it’s overrated imo. My least fav UK season probably.
@@ricenorim lol okay liar
it was a messy concept. branding challenge plus you have to sell drag race world. one thing that popped into my mind was a workshop type where you are introducing people to drag race world via workshop. you can have the marina experience where she would teach someone maybe fashion and choreo. then you have the keta experience where you learn stunts and fierceness (i don't know). then you have the tia experience where she's basically doing the same thing she already did where she's doing fashion and making fun of her old ones or the other two chiming in and shaking their heads on her adivce or something. i love that marina's outfits can stand on their own without reveals. those were two different looks that look awesome. usually when you have a reveal the first outfit is so so then reveal is better or the first outfit is better then they reveal to a bathing suit.
Yeah…maybe it should’ve been selling DragCon instead of an amusement park type of thing. Like, “create a DragCon itinerary centered around the people in your group”, instead.
yes! that would have been much better@@charlielew2933
I'm so SO gutted they had Onyx go before the freaking ball. Did you see her ball looks on Instagram? 😭 We were ROBBED!
I honestly think Sagittaria should have been top 2 with Juriji, with Sethlas high and the rest as how it aired
Sethlas workroom outfit was so crafty and falling apart should of landed her safe but that’s not a win I’m sorry Riga morris
Get timestamps!!! This is basic.
I think this EVERY episode
girl, to side against sagittaria is definetily a choice
Was soooooo happy for Tia this week. She’s so endearing! ❤
Scarlet (with one T) is probably blossoming since she has the strongest relationship with Ru and a real chance to win.
Thoughts on some show names: The Daily Mangle, Mera & Gals, The Mangle Ru-view, Mangle Nation
No one is talking about the shade of sethlas choosing sagi to go home over onyx. Clearly sagi is the bigger competitor and I’m surprised everyone just accepted sethlas not playing “fair”.
That would be a red flag to me so early in the competition and made me feel like if sethlas gets eliminated she has it coming (very pangina tease)
I'm gonna say it...Samantha's placements have been fair.
I'm sorry but how was Pakita not 'showing up'?! Just because she was overlooked (again) she deserved to go home? Excuse your mouths. I disagree so much with your take on this ball, to be honest, cause the judges are playing favourites again this season. And also, Pupi kinda gave up this episode (although she had the worst materials to work with), so wouldn't feel too bad about sending her packing.
Y'all let me down with the Sagittaria take
WOW SHOULD BUY UP ALL DRAG RACES...KEEP THEM IN ONE SITE👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Keta’s bit about Holland is related to all the art museums in Amsterdam which Amsterdam is really famous for, the Van Gogh museum (which she referenced) lead her to the painting which transformed into her contestant queen’s outfit.. I got the concept. But I am Dutch (and I know Keta quite well.
I didn’t think she was bad and she had one of the best runway looks this week with gorgeous reveals! Also all the girls throwing her under the bus under the guise of saving the strongest queen when Keta only last week was in the top position, it made no sense what so ever…
Mera and Scarlett are like Michelle in that they do not really understand European culture. As someone from Europe, I understood what Keta (and La Grande Dame) were doing, and I've been to the Van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam. Maybe Michelle, Mera and Scarlett should do some research before judging European queens.
I'm not European but I understood as well. Van Gogh was said so I don't know how people are confused. Maybe they missed it? I don't think it was particularly funny but at least I got it.
I understood where Keta was coming from too but I still think Ketas was on the weaker end. I think her and jonbers were just the least funny. LGDs was a bit of a stretch too but her little impressions made me laugh at least.
The girls are definitely threatened by her!!
@@DarkAngel459what do famous artists and museums in Amsterdam have to do with Keta’s brand aside from being where she’s from? That’s the issue, not the references
I like the idea of Mangled Morning (it’s 10am somewhere)
I love the MeraThons that's been happening
i'm so excited to see scarlet have an AS6 jan moment realizing her strategy of trying to play fair (which she specifically referred to in her speech) isn't going to work out because of the group's opinions on that elimination 😭😭
The Trixie face edited on Gothy 😂
First came WOW, then came MOM, next is MM.
Scarlet looking like ground meat, I cannot cope! 😂😂😂
Scarlett wasn't dressed as sushi, it was a reference to a famous Doris Day scene
I'm really enjoying this season, like I have not in a long time.
Settles is literally pushing all the narrative along with Samantha… they have been praised and pushed this whole time. Sagitarria was just over it. She really got into her own head. She already felt like quitting but didn’t want to seem weak. Same as why she acting maybe snobbish or childish in some peoples eyes. She clearly doesn’t know how to be vulnerable, but I know for sure that she teared up as soon as she was alone.
i could be misremembering, but didn't gia metric do a similar look for sloth on season 2 of canada's drag race? maybe i'm mixing up her look with courtney act's from season 6, but i feel like we just saw that kind of look from a design challenge.
43:30 they said when cancell the abrod shows that they gknna focus on us series so let's see whats happens
Creative? It was one of the worst ruveal runways, cmon
Yeh Aja did a larva look 😂😂
I am so sad to see you did not understand at all what Sagittaria shared. First of all, in balls when there is a sewing challenge as well, that last handmade look should be at least 50/60% of the overall performance in the episode. What's the point of having the queens creating a look from scratch if at the end other looks brought from home have more influence in the outcome of the episode? Sethlas last look was genuinely bad. He even said in tucked that he does not know how to sew at all and the outfit was just a corset with pieces of mirrors glued to it. He should have been just safe even if the other looks were great (not excellent as Juriji). At the same time, Sagi had 2 great looks as well brought from home and a look that seemed well constructed and somehow also reminded to the Capital Sin she was assigned to. What's the point of giving another win to the front runner when we have passed half of the season? At the same time, Pakita's 3rd look looked great even if the other two were just fine so her spot in the bottom could have been switched with Samantha or Hornella. Sagittaria was just honest about her quite valid perception of a well known already rigged judging decision in this franchise.
Marina's lava look is inspired on the miss universe 2018 Catriona Gray's look.
Love seeing Tia get her flowers!! 🩷🩷
I love my mid day mangled message!!
I totally thought they put LGD in the top and Gothy in the bottom... I just misread the edit and it felt like they picked a top bottom and middle for each group.
You should check the lava dress miss El Salvador wore on miss universe 👁👄👁
Btw I LOVE marina, LGD and Scarlett
Sethlas is soooooo overlooked
I don't think the airline theme for Drag Race World was a bad idea at all. It is UK vs the World after all. It's just that their concepts felt disjointed. Keta's didn't make sense. Marina's was coherent, but there wasn't enough. Tia's wasn't on theme, but she was at least funny.
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE SCARLETT ENVY❤❤❤💋💋
What about the name "Mangled Up"? Like tangled up.
Some serious delusion going on with Mangled Morning today when it comes to UKvTW. La Grand Dame was chaotic but very funny, Scarlet was very professional but dull and the whole runway was underwhelming at best bar Marina.
44th Good Mangled Sunday afternoon - Mera & Scarlet! MWHAA xo :) I thought Drag Sethlus Runway was Representing the Paparazzi being Vultures putting their Microphones in your face? Am I wrong...?
Am I the only one who thinks Hannah is being overlooked?? I thought she should’ve been high this week AND week 1.
Really enjoying UKVTW2 so far tho!
THE MERA MANGLE SHOW
People pretending Jonbers has been doing better than Keta are just delusional or have a bias for anglophone queens
WHO IS THE MUSCLE MAN IN DRA??? IN BLUE & BLACK DRESS???😵😵😵😵
Saggitaria was done so dirty on All Stars….
I m french and given the huge following behind LGD and her first 2 wins I fully believe she was prevented from being in the bottom because they were afraid of the French fans Going on strike lol.
I fully thought se was going to be in the bottom and get the Jimbo treatment
Sethlas outfit was literally falling apart, she won based on their first outfits, not her design.
UK vs The World doesn't seem good enough, like it doesn't seem worth it. Apart from Grande Dame and Marina, the show is lacking.(so far, imo). Love you Mera and Scarlett with two T's. xoxo
Hornella's looks looked cheap!!!😵😵😵😵
Am I the only one who thought Hornella was perfectly safe? I really love her and her energy, so I might be biased here, but seeing people putting her in the bottom is such a stretch for me. Her first look was fine, and I appreciated that the bodice looked good and it didn't give me bodice. I really loved the vibe of her second look, especially with the mask (I personally would've loved a pattern from her wet hair, after the reveal). And the third look might not have been a show-stopper, but it was well constructed. And it was a complete look, head to toe.
Like, if I understand that Sethlas can be in the top with an incomplete look, I can understand that Hornella is perfectly safe with a good, albeit boring look.
Unfortunately some of the queer Spanish fandom can be quite toxic. I really hope their passion can exist for the show while respecting that others (including the judges) can have different opinions. Sagittaria constructed a well-put together garment but it didn't meet the brief. And while Sethlas' final look wasn't great construction, it sold the brief and their first two looks were incredible. Sethlas also had what could be THE LOOK of perhaps the entire season. The experiences of their fellow queens speaks volumes.
I just notice that mera looks great with blonde hair.
Idk why everyone is defending Sagi so hard. She didn't do as well as Sethlas! Even if Sethlas hadn't been in the top 2, it doesn't mean Sagi would have been.
I think people just want to complain that it's rigged because Sethlas is doing so well. She's pulling a Sasha Colby and people somehow don't think it's good to be good??
Espana All Stars is such a flop. They cast it so weirdly, its not enough to be a great drag queen outside the competition (Samantha, Pupi, Sethlas) you have to be fun to watch and for me this cast is not it, I wish we could have had Hugaceo, Marina, Venedita, Clover, Killer, Estrella etc instead. Even my Fave Juriji isn't shining as much as she usually does as she has no one to banter or spar with. Boring season
THE MANGLE ANGLE!!
Love all y’all bitches on the News Network. ❤
Name idea: MBC (Mangle BROADcast Company)
Bit stoned, not sure if it’s good. Love y’all
Sethlas is not my cup of tea I’m not seeing drag with no wigs no heels and man chest showing
I’ve heard that the Javis had a lil crush on sethlas she gets favoritism
Funny, one of the Javi said the same thing as you said about Sagittaria is the "most pop ready". And you said what Hornella said, that Sagitarria should have been envy.
You're in their heads Mera!
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE SETHLAS!!!!❤❤❤❤💋💋💋
Sasha Colby has just flown into NZ as they have just started to film...
They started filming on feb 16th. Sasha flew in as a guest judge.