Band of Brothers | E09 Why We Fight - REACTION!
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- Опубліковано 31 лип 2020
- This is the episode most of you said was going to break us, and yep... you were right!
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Pretty sickening seeing all the holocaust deniers and nazi apologists commenting. This episode just drives home the importance of remembering history and not letting it be repeated.
@Octopus It's probably a Zionist bot account.
@@Nemophilist850 Spotted the nazi apologist
@@wthwasthat8884 OK Zionist.
Thank you, Shawn. Yes, it is dismaying and it's always the same. First, they argue that most Germans didn't know what was going on. Then, they say, "And even if they DID know, there was nothing they could have done." Then they hasten to add, "But of course, they didn't know." When in doubt, deny, deny, deny.
@Betty Grable Okay Betty dear I think it's time for you to take your medication and go for a nap. I'm sure murder she wrote will be on the tv when you wake up.
shoutout to denmark for shipping all the jews to sweden and then be like "jews? sorry, couldnt find any." when the germans eventually came knocking.
And To Oscar Schindler Too
Shout out to Sweden for supplying iron ore and other war materials to Germany while they were exterminating said people
@@JM-ji9kx Also shoutout to Sweden for immediately giving up Norwegian royal family to the Germans when they fled to Sweden for safety... from Germans.
@@JM-ji9kx I doubt they knew what was going on, you see the Americans reaction and by this point the war had been going on for years. Nobody knew about it except the locals. And Sweden wasn’t the only one that supplied Germany, since everyone didn’t want to get absolutely destroyed. OR they shared their ideals. Possibly. 😂
And than strange but true a muslim country marocco. The king got asked to hand over jews to the germans the king replied we only have marocans refusing to do so.
This series should be played in high school history classes. I'll never forget Easy Co.
we actually did watch this particular episode of Band of Brothers in my History class in High school. I watched the rest of the series immediately when i got home
We do use it to teach specific aspects of WW2 and the Holocaust. Can't just show the whole series... but there are numerous clips and even episodes that offer a visual resource and support to lessons.
Watched it in mine in high school.
I remember in my school, this must have been late 1980's, we were shown a film about the concentration camps, that didn't hide anything. It was horrific.
I don't know if they still show it, teach it today. They should. And yes, BOB would be excellent education.
This series got me through sophomore junior and senior English and history classes for essays and is still helping me through college lol
The cast of the show was deliberately kept away from the concetration camp set and extras in order to get a genuine reaction of shock.
Deuces Shoeless Didn’t know that! Thanks for the info.
I am not sure about this, but I seem to remember that they got cancer patients to take the role of the prisoners. And they were eager to, doing it for basically no money because it is important for people too see.
Actually they were given the option to see if but not one did as they felt they wanted to have genuine reaction to it
@@RedKytten that's true. A lot of them were still going through cancer treatment
RedKytten they sure did. I always found that part really beautiful, moving. They put themselves at a certain risk for infection or even a cold or flu that can really take a toll
My father was in the 82nd Airborne and helped liberate two camps and he was never the same after that
My father was in the 90th Infantry Division. They, too, liberated a camp. He never spoke of it. I think he couldn't. I know what the 90th did only because I read about it in the history of the Division. I know that my father never doubted for a moment that the Nazis were evil incarnate. What still baffles me, however, is that as my father became older and older, his own hidden racism began to show itself. Blacks, Latinos, etc., etc., etc. I have never been able to reconcile that with what he did so courageously in WWII. We are all living contradictions, I guess. I wish I had a better explanation.
@@1thomson Your father and mine lived in a different time and I have learned perfection does not exist in any of us
I'm not sure what Division my grandpa was in at the end, but he was part of the 92nd, 96th, & 106th. While most of his unit was at the Battle of the Bulge, he was one of the "voluntold" in Italy. His records are a mess, but he told me a few of his stories in his last years. Things he never told my dad & uncle. Maybe not even my grandma. This included finding 2 camps. The unit he was attached to at the time had already come across 2 trains that had been abandoned & fired upon. The camps merely made it so that they took out anyone still in uniform, not just the SS.
@@Oduunich I dont know if you know this but if you go to your local VA they will give you all of his records if they are avalable and all of his
medals if your father is alivwe he has to do it but if not you can do it. It takes time the Govt is slow. Good luck and let me know how it goes
@@chuckhilleshiem6596 Ya, we got copies of his medals after he passed away. His records probably too. Either my dad or uncle lost the record though. That's how we know his official record is messed up. It doesn't list a third of the places he was. Mostly after D-Day. I know a lot of them from him tellimg me things. Like seeing the Turks go up at Monte Cassino, landing at Omaha, etc. He had 22 landings & was on his way to the Pacific when the war ended. Signed up when he was 17 (19 at Omaha).
You may consider doing two videos for episode 10. That way you can get the final interviews with the veterans. It's worth it.
Definitely worth it
So worth it! i actually caught the cadence of one of the Band of Brothers between the veteran and the actor portraying! Wonderful job!
@@genghisgalahad8465 Totally, and do one more vid for the documentary "We Stand Alone Together". It's soooo good!
Good call
Go and pay at Patreon for that
Calls him obrien. O this. O that. But in the serious situation at the camp, he calls him by his actual name. Little things like this are symbolic and strong message.
9:32
K: "What did they find?"
S: "I think I know."
The look of realization on your face right at that moment.
Honestly that realization hit pretty damn hard
I'm quite surprised how many don't realise what's coming. That's the first reaction I've seen who caught it. You gotta give it to the guy, he's smarter than the average bear
@@stevecooke2893 they don't teach it anymore in school. Plus most of the camps that are talked about to this day are in Poland, Ukraine, Belarus or Eastern Germany. People don't realize they were all over.
My late Uncle Tommy -- he's actually my grandmother's older brother -- was in the 101st and took part in liberating several camps.
Before he died, Tommy was a cheerful fellow. Never met a stranger, nice to kids and animals. The kind of old relative who always seemed to have jokes and peppermints to hand out to the kids. Would take you to see the newest Disney movie. Kindest person on the planet.
He hated Germans with a blazing passion that equaled the heat of the sun. But he never once said why. When he spoke of his wartime experiences, he'd tell stories about Paris nightclubs, and eating Dutch chocolate, but he never once spoke about combat, just saying, "Well, you know how it is. You've seen war movies." But when asked about Germany, he would clam up and get angry. Tell us to mind our own business and stop bothering him.
He carried the trauma of his experiences in the camps to the grave, and he was there as a *liberator*. I cannot imagine the horror one could carry with one as a prisoner.
My uncle liberated Dachau. I interviewed him for my college thesis
My grandfather's name was Thomas, or Tommy. What I know is he fought in the battle of Arnhem, and marched deep into Germany. Besides killing many German soldiers, he accidentally killed a young German boy with the Jeep he was driving. He never, ever drove a vehicle ever again. My mom remembers him waking up in the night, screaming and this was late 1960s. All the men he had killed but that boy haunted him for a long, long time. He passed in 1985.
I choked up every time at that scene when they're at the camps when I was a teenager I worked at CVS Pharmacy and it was in a predominantly Jewish neighborhood and most of the people that live there are survivors from Dachau sobibor Treblinka and Auschwitz and I've seen the number tattoo on their forearms and some of them told me their stories which world weigh more horrific than they can ever put on the History Channel there was this sweet old lady who I would always take extra care of and help her out with her shopping and she told me about the time she was 13 in the Treblinka and they took her whole entire family and wipe them out within a half hour her whole entire family for gone when she told me that story I went into the break room and bawled my eyes out cuz all I kept thinking was about my family and yet there's people still out there that say that it never happened I'm starting to tear up even writing this text
It's hard to describe how awful that is. 😔 Sounds like she was a woman of great inner strength - they all would've been. It says something pretty positive about you for her to have trusted you enough to have confided in you about it.
You are a Mensch. You took care of a survivor of the horrors of the camps. Mensch, if you didn't know, means person of honor in Yiddish.
This has got to be the saddest part of the show. This episode should be shown in classes, I was shown only episode 2 in school, don’t know why they didn’t show this episode.
Nudity at the beginning I’m guessing. Should be shown though.
Spartan_007 fuck you dude, most of those people weren’t commies you ignorant fuck. 6 million dead and you think they were mostly communist? And even “IF” they ALL believed in communism. they are still people. NO one deserved what happened at those camps, even the worst of worst criminals deserve a quicker and more human death. You sir have to be a horrible human being to even be able to type that bullshit out and post it
Spartan_007 The Holocaust happened get over it. This is the stupidest thing I ever heard. Every time I read a word of yours I feel dumber.
When we studied WW2 and the holocaust at school I had watched Band of Brothers. So I showed my history teacher the concentration camp scene and she made sure we showed it to the whole class.
This was shown in my grade 11 class. I went to school in Alberta
Sadly, a large number of concentration camp inmates died in the months _after_ liberation. Nobody in the world (or at least nobody available to the Allies) had any relevent experience in treating people in such a state, and several well-intentioned mistakes were made. A lot of the expertise that exists nowadays to treat starvation only started in the aftermath of WWII.
Same as with German soldiers in Stalingrad. They literally overworked their starving bodies trying to digest whatever food that got dropped in.
Luftwaffe tried to bring in high-fat, high calorie meat conserves and people literally dropped dead a few hours after wolfing them down.
We will miss Kat for the pacific 100%
but your father is great. Look forward to it. I always get sad when BoB is starting to wind down.
Band of Brothers is something that I feel should be showed in every high school history class. It's done so well, the emotion, just everything. These were literally normal guys, carpenters, cab drivers, restaurant employees, who answered the call of the draft to go to war. But it's so much more, these guys loved each other, cared about each other, even the brand new replacements, the older guys had their backs. Amazing, amazing, amazing series.
They built the whole camp as a set to get the most genuine reaction possible from the actors and the take you see is them seeing all of it for the first time
Unfortunately to this day there are still deniers. We must never forget how inhumane we can be to one another.
It’s scary and unfortunately they will only grow larger as the last survivors pass away and will “only” be spoken of as history. May it always be history, history shared.
I honestly don't understand how people deny it. It makes no sense to me
@@conpop6924 You can thank today's young liberal generation for that. When you go around destroying statues and anything related to that which you despise it becomes easier for it all to be forgotten said to never have existed.
@@Zikk0_o How would you feel about a few statues of Hitler around the world? I mean, it's history, right? How can we remember history without having a statue to honor the shitty people in history?
@@gregall2178 Oh you mean like the Great Pyramid, the Sphinx, the great wall of China, or Aztec temples? All of these great monuments or "wonders of the world" built off the backs of slaves.
Concerning knowledge of the camps, it's pretty crazy how they were kept out of the public light. The first camp uncovered was by the Soviets in July of 44, and while it was documented thoroughly, news wasn't really spread outside of Polish/Soviet circles. The French restricted access to the only camp in occupied France for PR reasons. In the US, the New York Times sat on evidence of the camps including photos, documents and witness testimonies supposedly because the owner was afraid the paper would be seen as too Jewish.
It's also important to remember that "concentration camp" meant something different prior to WW2. A concentration camp used to mean a camp were you gathered or concentrated a population. They weren't great, they were crowded, unhygienic, usually large scale prisons. But they weren't murder factories. The US used them in Cuba, the British against the Boers. When the Nazis opened the first camp in 1933, it was used for political prisoners Communists, Social Democrats, Anarchists, and Trade Unionists mainly. This was widely documented and heavily covered in the press. Foreign civil liberty groups protested, but it wasn't any different than other concentration camps operated by nations. Ironically, the Communists who were the main victims of the early camps couldn't generate much sympathy about the German camps because of the Soviet Unions own concentration camps, the Gulags. So the world just got used to the German camps. And they morphed into work camps, and then into extermination camps and essentially just no one was paying attention.
It's beyond terrifying but you can actually still find and watch the actual propaganda video from the Nazi German government that show "the camps" and how they are comfortable, humain, re-education facilities. The films make the camps look like a fun little vacation spot with 3 square meals, exercise, and education and work programs for the "undesirable" portion of the population. . . . .it literally could not have been further from reality. And thats whats so scarey. Many Germans saw those news reels and not only believed them but saw themselves and patriots for turning people in to be sent to these camps. . . . . .horrific
Gulags weren't concetration camps. And the ones british used against the boers were extremely awful as well, close to the nazi ones. You forgot to mention the concentration camps us had for japanese during WW2. They were as inhumane as the nazi ones but were still concentration camps
@@nomesobrenome4092 American for Japanese camps as inhumane as the nazi camps? In which part, killing, torturing, unhygienic, starving to death or are you just making that up? What was done to Japanese people in US that resembled even half the shit done to people by the Germans?
@@belladonnahigh9206 Judging by the "but" in that sentence i think he meant to type "were'nt" and made a typo
Even if the persecution of the Jews did not happen, the rest is still valid for war against Germany. Gathered with the persecution of the Jews gives even more justification for war against Germany.
Band of Brothers - probably the finest mini-series that's ever been on television. This particular episode was very hard to watch. My grandmother told me my uncle was in the one of the units that discovered Dachau. When asked he would never talk about it.
So was mine. I interviewed him for my college thesis
First time I watched this series I was holding back tears but I then started crying at 10:31 when that man went up and hugged that soldier. Couldn’t hold it in 😞
The scene is very powerful. I'm also taken with how the scene was shot: a 360-degree camera float around the two men. Extremely well done.
The sound of the one prisoner saying that the women’s camp is down the road is the most mournful sound I’ve ever heard. Who ever that actor is - wow.
The survivor saluting is what always gets me.
The actor, Charles Durning was with the 101’st Airborne. A few years before he died, he read an excerpt from his journal from when they liberated this camp. Still moved to tears after all those years, the fact that he was able to finish reading his journal entry with only a few positives to compose himself was a testament to his ability as an actor.
Hate to be picky...but, on D-Day, Durning landed on Omaha Beach with the 1st Infantry Division. He didn't serve with the airborne, just plain old infantry. Silver Star, Bronze Star, Purple Heart and CIB.
Hes my great? uncle. I dunno what the actual term is but nonetheless hes a family member
The actors portraying the inmates were undergoing treatment for cancer, hence the emaciated look
I have watched the entire series dozens of times.
This episode STILL makes me cry.😢
Me too. Every single time
This episode tore me up as well. And spent 24 yrs in military served in 3 conflicts. Terrible thing.
I just watched this episode again (post-reaction) and noticed when Percontti rides up with company staff, Major Winters sees Bull Randleman is sitting on his helmet without his cigar.
Another great character moment because similar to Buck Compton, we know what it means when the toughest among them are shaken to their soul.
Amazed at how fast I clicked this
"Double salut"
no Kat, oh no....
Yes
When I was in elementary school back in 2002 or so, we had some speakers who came. There were 8 of them. Just these older sweet looking and tired people. They talked about their lives, and experiences during ww2. And then they dropped the bomb. They were, all of them, survivors of a concentration camp. This one speaker, I'll never forget his story. He talked about how they were fed, they would be in these lines and if you were at the start of the line, the front, you might get a bit more hearty of soup. Mind you when he said hearty he meant there might be something more than just broth. But people at the end of the line would get a bowl of what was basically water. He talked about how when the Americans liberated his camp, it was during mealtime, and a few people in the line with him died instantly by being crushed by rubble or something, and he took their food and cursed them for being Jews. Because as a child (he was 10 or so) he felt it was their fault he was starving, their fault so many of his loved ones had perished. He sobbed for the next 8 minutes just wishing he wouldn't have, in the moment he was angry and bitter. But afterwards, he was just miserable and alone as all his family died in the camps. I don't want to get too detailed in his story, but I just wanted to explain that even close to 80 years later, these poor people were still so traumatized by what they saw, that they would break down and become catatonic. What these people went through was indescribable, and cannot be shown properly.
And the baker. That town is literally right next door to the camp and they didn't smell the burning of flesh? They knew.
The director really strove to give the concentration camp scenes an authentic feel. The main cast was kept away from the camp set until the day of filming to try and ensure their reactions were more horrified. The inmates who look so horribly emaciated were cancer patients undergoing treatment at nearby hospitals who were hired as extras to play the role. Such a powerful episode.
Honestly, The Pacific would be way too brutal for Kat. It's difficult to rewatch it even now
True, Pacific is very brutal for Kat.
Hell yeah, especially the episodes on Peleliu and Okinawa 😮
The Pacific taught me why my Grandpa was so distant.
@tripleheshy Sorry you had to go through that. Can't say I wouldn't cope the same way. My son's in the Navy stationed in Japan. It's a better world thanks to your Dad and all those brave men.
Band of brothers is about the brotherhood forged in war. The Pacific is about the brutality and dehumanisation of war.
when filming this episode, the actors said that they rehearsed their lines while sitting around the table. They weren't shown the camp until it was time to actually to shoot it, because the directors wanted their initial reaction to be genuine. the prisoners were recruited from a nearby cancer hospital to add another layer of realism to the scene.
As we watch this China is doing the exact same, possibly worse.
And sadly very few people seem to care.
@@johnray9088 VERY few
THIS
And the nba whines about oppression in America all while ignoring their Chinese buddies
I don’t agree sorry. Xinjang (or what is called) has always been part of China. And local muslims, in the name of independence and of a ethnic Clean xinjang have start, more or less 10 years ago, riots killing chinese etnicall people, innocents, at cold blood with machetes and knifes. Let’s see it as an Isis style process. Many Xinjang men are now in Siria with islamic extremist. So in this case China is Just defending their people . But this is my thought.
24:25 However, this was not an SS officer but an officer of the Wehrmacht. And he seems to have fallen. You can recognize it by the black ribbon in the left corner.
Yeah. Definately KIA. Probably in Russia. But those bodies had to be buried. And she was there.
@the baron That is absolute nonsense. Few knew that. Very few even in the military. Except for the SS, of course. At the most, there were rumors among officers. That was deliberately kept secret. There were also explicitly only volunteers for the camps. The SS wanted them to be ideological in absolute terms.
Mr_R0lanD oh come on they knew what was going on at those camps, especially her. she was the wife of a general. she knew.
Few knew?
Over 11 million people get rounded up and shipped off, and nobody in the neighborhood notices a thing?
Laws were passed for years prior; jews couldn't marry pure Germans, jews could no longer own property, jews could no longer be in positions of authority, and nobody noticed that there was persecution of the jews?
Prisoners from the camps were used as slave labor at factories throughout Germany. Business owners bid for them and signed contracts with the Reich to get them. Nobody saw all the "employees" in prisoner uniforms being led away under armed guard at the end of the shift?
The suggestion that nobody but the SS knew is just horseshit, and is trying to portray the average German as innocent of the holocaust, because even the most ardent nazi fanboy knows he really can't defend the SS these days so he'll lay the blame solely on them, because it wasn't really Germans that were bad; the jews just kind of died under mysterious circumstances which the average "good" German didn't know about. Right?
8:23 good little attention to details: the guys that executed the germans soldiers were... free french soldiers. No idea why they still wear the 1940 uniform with the Adrian helmet (they should wear US or British uniform depending of the unit) but you can kinda get the grudge they hold.
Perhaps fled with de Gaulle or evacuated from Dunkirchen and still used that gear... 🤷🏻♂️
There were several divisions in the French Liberation Army that were equipped with old french uniforms and gear (including the Adrian helmet). These were units raised in late 1944 after the liberation of France, mostly from FFI members. During 1945 some of them were used as rear area security and occupation troops in Southern Germany.
@@michelmorio8026 hmm perhaps, maybe they're from De Lattre 1st Army, who landed in the South of France, and had a lot of different equipment, French, British, US and even German, those guys wee picking up everything they could because they were from the colonies so they didn't have a lot of stuff
@@catrachocolo Yeah I saw that, they could also have been from De Lattre 1st Army, wich was pretty much using everything they could get their hands on
@catrachocolo FFL Officiers, like Majors and Captains, wear old french army uniforms
The scene is a reference about the end of the Charlemagne division, a french SS division who surrender at the end of the war and executed by the French 2nd Armoured Division, without a form a judgement, by order of french General Leclerc
When my father's unit overran the Flossenburg camp, he had already been wounded at St. Lo (American bombs fell short onto American troops), and at Metz (bloodbath river crossing at Dornot), and had fought in the Ardennes and Frankfurt. His world just kept getting more horrible by the day. The best thing you could say about the experience is that his nightmares had stopped by the time he retired.
Sonny... as a U.S. Marine Corps veteran who served alongside Danish Army, I look forward to again seeing your fathers point of view. Semper Fi!
KorbinX thank you for your support! 🍻
I've never had a show impact my emotions so much. War is hell, but this episode showed a glimpse of what real hell can be.
Thank you for the videos, look forward to the Pacific and good luck on the job front Kat
Very smart to have had the tissues! This one always makes me cry like a little kid.
Edit: Cried just watching the reaction.
Mozart was Austrian while Beethoven was German, thats why the distinction was made at the beginning
To THIS day....this entire series stands as #1 in my book! By far one THE greatest docu-movies ever made!! I bought it. I don’t want to EVER FORGET IT....my children....their children....on and on must live on. Thank you for this-appreciate it!!
I've seen this series -- and this episode -- dozens of times since it was released, but watching your reaction video I noticed something for the very first time.
In the scene where Liebgott is translating for Winters and Nixon, Captain Spiers is standing behind them. This is badass take no shit kill everything without hesitation no fear big nuts Spiers. Look at his face. This is the face of a man physically keeping himself from bursting into tears.
That tells us how horrible the situation is right there.
I noticed Spiers when I re-watched this episode in full on Saturday. I'd seen the episode before, but I hadn't noticed that part. It's interesting how certain things jump out at you when you watch things more than once.
Yes, the acting is superb 👏 . No need to do a lot, or to act like a robot, they really did a good job
The kind spirit and empathy that both of you have shines through on these videos. Thank you for your willingness to share .
THIS EPISODE Always made me cry
The emotional Empathy you both felt during this episode was *THE* reaction . Other than asking others to watch this , your Reaction video should also be viewed .
Double salute xD
I've watched this series so many times, but kat really cracked me up on that one.
I couldn't help myself!
I've seen band of brothers a half dozen times and this episode still hurts to see. The article was only superficially right that the Nazis were bad - it couldn't explain WHY they were bad enough to drag the entire WORLD into war, or just how DEEP their evil and inhumanity was. Webster ends up standing in the truck and screaming at 300,000 German soldiers for an explanation because, "They're bad," just didn't explain the whole huge, incomprehensible war; and in the jeep behind that truck Nixon and Winters are quiet because THEY don't have the answer either yet. Almost as if they were all starting to think maybe continuing to fight was just a waste at that point. But the camp was the answer to why they were fighting, even though nobody knew it until they saw it and without saying it, it's crystal clear why we fight, and why they needed to continue to fight to the bitter end. And even after Hitler commits suicide the war DRAGS ON...
This is the first time I’ve seen any of this episode since I visited two places called Tuol Sleng and Choueng Ek in Cambodia. Tuol Sleng was a suburban high school in Phnom Penh, while Choueng Ek was an orchard.
After the Khmer Rouge came to power in Cambodia in 1975 Tuol Sleng was redesignated Security Office 21. It became a prison and torture site for enemies of the regime. The walls are lined with hundreds or thousands of photos of victims that passed through - some were women with children. Many died at S21, but those that survived were sent to Choueng Ek. There mass pits were dug among the trees of the orchard. Seventeen thousand were sent to Choueng Ek, only seven are believed to have escaped. It is one of hundreds of such killing fields discovered across the country in the wake of the KR’s overthrow. It’s still littered with the bones of the victims.
Everything that happened there, happened decades after what was depicted in this episode. How did humanity do this all over again? How did it not learn from the things we see here?
It wasn’t just Cambodia either. Rwanda, Sudan, North Korea, Yugoslavia... who knows what’s going on in Xinjiang right now.
Watching something like this episode should be mandatory. Somehow we keep making the same mistakes.
thank you for such a great reaction to this episode. You touched it on the head that this history needs to be remembered so it does not get lost and perhaps repeated. It means alot my grandfathers were both in the canadian army over there one spent most of his time in Holland but was part of a unit into the Netherlands that was at a camp called westerbork but he would never talk about what they found and you learned from the look of sadness in his eyes to not ask.
Growing up my father had a very good friend that was a survivor and at about 10 or 11 i saw his tattoo and asked about it, he gently as possible explained what it meant and i am sure he left out so much more than he said but it broke my heart. He never recovered from his injuries both physical and mental but he would do talks at schools and other groups when asked to make sure people knew what happened. they truly were the greatest generation and should never be forgotten.
This episode was outstanding in how it was portrayed and also absolutely heartbreaking.
13:27 that’s actually the hardest moment, when Liebgott, breaks after he had to tell all these people that they have to stay there even longer in this hell
And the leadership of the Allied (British, Soviet and American) got the infos about the camps during the war... and what happened there. They had reports from polish resistance fighters that got in ghetto‘s and collected informations there, got near camps or even let themself get captured and fled from there (look into Witold Pilecki for example) and personally travelled to London for their report.
Groups that were in neutral Switzerland also gathered informations and reported them back to London!
The multiple hours Documentation/original Interviews of victims and perpetrators and witnesses from Claude Lanzmann is a great piece of remembrance to never forget
I have seen a documentary on the BBC once recounting how senior German generals where housed in 3 villas in England. The villas were were bugged, all rooms, to listen on their conversations. Those who listened, recorded, translated, and transcribed the conversations could not believe what they were hearing. Those who read the typed reports could not believe what they were reading.
Search about: BBC The M Room sounds , then skip to 7 minutes.
for me! ive always been an AVID FAN of anything about ww2! i watched every documentary, every TV series, every movie that is ww2 themes! i just love it, the passion! the patriotism! the lesson! the reality! i just love it, idk why! but if i have a TIME MACHINE , ww2 is the first time that i will go back on ... and this scene from band of brothers, FOR ME! IS ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL SCENE IN ANY WW2 FILM ...
The soldiers didn’t know but the generals knew and Roosevelt and Churchill knew. Hitler could have been stopped when he invaded Poland or Czechoslovakia.
As someone that has visited some of the death camps from WW2, it is just unimaginable, the horrors that went on. It's been 15 years and it's still something I think about regularly.
Cualquiera que haya llegado a ver este episodio te llega realmente al corazón, lo que el ser humano es capaz de hacerle a otro. Solo espero que en estos momentos que vivimos podamos salir adelante juntos como raza humana 02/08/2020
My uncles aunt who was called Joyce and lived to be about 85 was attached to the British Army unit that liberated the infamous Bergen-Belsen camp and was, I believe, the first woman to enter the camp with the army, She was an amazing woman, the youngest of 13 girls. Her parents never had a single boy...must have been a gene thing. Her father was a survivor of the famous Charge of the Light Bigade in the Crimean War. She was a nursing sister in the Queen Alexandra's Royal Army Nursing Corp. She actually warned the soldiers who were feeding the camp survivors (60,000 in the camp at the time of liberation) with their rations that they would kill the survivors and quite a few did die as their bodies could not cope with the sudden calorie intake. Sadly 14,000 camp survivors died after liberation through numerous diseases and illnesses and neglect that could not be treated to an extent that could save them. She helped, with hundreds of others, to turn the camp around and nursed many people there. Earlier in the war she had been evacuated at Dunkirk and had nursed many badly wounded soldiers in a church in the town. Ordered to leave them she had refused and my uncle told me that she had more or less been carried out of the church. She believed that many of those wounded, left to the German Army to capture as they were too badly injured to make the difficult journey bach to Britain, had been massacred in the church by the Germans but, having studied WW2 and the French campaign including Dunkirk, I have never found any evidence of this. After the war she trained as a physiotherapist and was based at, I believe, either St Thomas Hospital or Barts Hospital in London. She toured the world giving lectures and teaching physiotherapy later in life. She was engaged to a Lancaster bomber pilot who was shot down and killed over Germany in 1943/44 and never married, staying single her entire life and nursing one of her sisters who had learning difficulties and lived with her for many years. Although not a blood relation to myself I used to spend many summer days at her house along with her nephew, about two miles from where I live. She was a lovely lady and to be honest a heroine to a young man who always looked upto her. I am now almost 60 and she died about 30 years ago but I still pass her old cottage from time to time and struggle not to knock on the door and tell the current owners of the remarkable woman who used to live in the house.
@@paulacherry5465 Thank You. She was an amazing human. She looked remarkably like an English actress from that period called Celia Johnson, and they could have been twins and she had a very posh British voice so sounded like her as well.
And the horror they show here is relatively mild; this was one of the smaller camps. Like the Major says, there were camps that were ten times as big, essentially acting as murder factories. Brilliant writing and acting, to tell a story that should never be forgotten. Thoughtful discussion at the end, glad you had the same reactions I did, even though I knew what was coming.
This was the toughest one. Kat seemed genuinely surprised so I’m glad this heart-wrenching episode wasn’t totally spoiled.
Actually, there is a lot of people that doesn’t know anything about this. They do not teach this kind of history in SOME, schools. And some people do not believe this happened. Those who do not learn from the past are doomed to relive it.
Exactly history is important people should realise that
This is something that should never be forgotten. Especially today.
The Pacific series has a special place in my hart (as an Marine Its an interesting series).
Some people didn't like the Pacific... I think they had the expectation that it would be a nother Band of Brothers.
But Im glad they did there own thing with The Pacific show.
Its very different. Instead of following an company and throu that some characters, like Band of Brothers. Instead The Pacific tells the story from the eyes of 3 different soldiers in 3 different company's (2 different battallions) but the same regiment (most of the time).
Also, a lot of people don't like episodes (I think it is) 3 & 4 of the Pacific... But alot of veteran like those episodes. They show how soldiers reacted to being on leave and psykological problems/PTSD. That really connects with me. But I know that a lot of civilians think those episodes are "boring"...
So just understand that Its a very different story.
Even though this is partly fictional (Easy Company wasn't the Unit that liberated this specific camp) the attention to historic details is meticulous. Even down to the population usually claiming to be ignorant what was going on and getting a very hard education to the contrary.
The concentration camp depicted here is Kaufering IV. It had to be recreated since it is one of those that was not kept for posterity.
Here it is, or rather the spot where it once was. Nothing left but a small, in my eyes inadequate, memorial cemetary:
tinyurl.com/y2orx7b9
One has to note though that according to the historic maps I could find of Kaufering the village had not yet extended west of the river like you see it in modern images. Therefore the spot where the KZ was, was not right next to a farmhouse like it is now. But it was of course in walking distance to a train station...
m.imdb.com/title/tt1247470/trivia yes Kaufering
Nixon ended up with a wonderful life after meeting his second wife. Check it out. He went sober and married the dream.
Webster after the war went missing in the 50's on a sailboat living his dream as well.
That is what my grandfather fought during WWII. By the way, all of the men in the 506th Parachute regiment EZ company have died. All of the heroes of that company are together again.
Your reaction, at 11:30, when you understand the German being spoken about the women's camp, is just raw emotion. Powerful.
The liberation scenes were specifically written to be powerful and emotional but the liberation of Kaufering IV didn't happen anything like it is shown in Band of Brothers.
You should check out the book Eichmann in Jerusalem, about Adolf Eichmann's, an architect of the Holocaust, trial. The author describes the banality of evil, that regular boring people commit and participate in horrific actions. The theory before the Holocaust was that exceptional evil was due to exceptionally evil people, but the reality of the scale of the Holocaust was that horror can come from any regular person. Eichmann's main defense was, "I was just following orders."
“In my work with the defendants (at the Nuremberg Trails 1945-1949) I was searching for the nature of evil and I now think I have come close to defining it. A lack of empathy. It’s the one characteristic that connects all the defendants, a genuine incapacity to feel with their fellow men. Evil, I think, is the absence of empathy.”
Yes!! The author is Hannah Arendt, there are also great interviews with her available on UA-cam :)
"The Banality of Evil" is one of, if not the most egregious fallacy concerning the Holocaust. I think its effect has been pernicious and sadly, it continues to be disseminated through all forms of media. Eichmann is the worst possible candidate to put forward as an example of this supposed banality. I would suggest that reading Hannah Arendt alone does not suffice. Study Eichmann's career and you will discover that he was, in fact one of the most fanatical of all the Nazi leaders, rabidly antisemetic, steeped in Nazi ideology and one of its chief proponents. It continues to amaze me that so many people subscribe to this misconception, when a little more research and thought would demonstrate how fallacious it is. And, of course, Eichmann would say he was following orders, since he had no other defense!
My father told me this opening was his favorite scene in the series. Beethoven is German; Mozart, like Hitler, is Austrian. This particular piece was written later in Beethoven's life, after he had gone deaf. What the Germans are saying by playing it is that they are reclaiming their culture, their heritage, and their nation from Hitler and are rejecting him forever.
Actually, Mozart was not Austrian during his time. His place of birth, Salzburg, didn't belong to Austria until well after his death. Plus, during that time Austrians were considered to be Germans anyway.
@@Siegbert85 When Germany became a unified country in the 1860s under Prussia, the Prussians fought a war to ensure that they were the unifiers of Germany. Thus my point being that they are distinguishing themselves from someone born in Austria.While Austrians are a Germanic people, they are not part of Germany.
@@joshuawells835 Sounds like a stretch... it's not like Germany was Austria's victim during that time. It's quite the other way around.
Hitler always thought of himself as German, as did most Austrians. They only chose to consider themselves as specifically not German after WW2.
Even today Mozart arguably plays a bigger role for Germans than Beethoven does, I would say.
If any of the classical composers could be seen as standing close to Hitler it would be Wagner who he was a big fan of.
@@Siegbert85 Pan-German Nationalism aside, the point is that the Germans are rejecting Hitler.
Feel better, Kat, and good luck in your job hunt. Welcome dad! He was great when he guested in your Band of Brothers reaction. We already love him.
I really enjoy watching this with you 2. It's amazing what you'll watch over again when you have someone else to share the experience with. Getting to know 2 people living in another country is enlightening and educational. I seem to share more reactions and feelings with you 2 than I did the other Americans I originally watched Band of brothers with. You don't try to dismiss or disclaim the series as being an American point of view which makes me feel better about a shared, or at least sympathetic understanding of history. Kat is obligated to mention her limitations to watch material of this genre, but I think she is a trooper. I think she will eventually watch the Pacific; which btw I'm thrilled you're going to watch.
Really heavy episode, this. The old guy in the camp kissing the first US soldier he saw..... that was what got me. On a lighter note, I haven't seen lips that purple since the music video to "Girl U Want" by DEVO. lol.....
One of the most powerful episodes of TV.
P.s. Kat going straight up Cyberpunk & I love it.
I've been waiting to see your reactions to this episode. I mean, the show itself is so superb with how it takes snapshots of the war throughout the season, but for me this was the most jolting episode. I remember at the time just watching how these guys were evolving, what they were witnessing, and I have to admit I never thought about the concentration camp part of the war until this episode. It floored me at the time, and I knew (judging from your previous reactions to this series) that you guys were going to be swept away. I have to admit, I found it amazing how well the series got us to get a connection with the guys in Easy Company, including those who died along the way or were seriously wounded, but at the very same time it did a great job at getting us to be emotionally invested about other people outside of that group too. Loved the reaction, despite how difficult (but important) watching this episode is. I look forward to the next .. keep it up guys :)
I served long, long, long after this and I don’t know that it’s specifically why the USA (or western countries) fight, but it’s certainly what we identify with. Even if political, economic, and pure ego can muddy the waters… that is the why behind why I served.
The world is a sad place if good men stand quiet in the face evil. De Opresso Liber.
As a German I am very familiar with German history, especially with the period between 1918 and 1945.
The events of the years 1919 to 1933 paved the way for the Nazis. It was so easy for them to take advantage of the anger and deep frustration, the humiliations by France or the Allies. The world economic crisis of 1929 gave Germany the rest.
In the years 1930 to 1933 there was a saying in Germany, "If you can't afford a white shirt anymore, take the brown one (Nazi/SA color)"...
Nothing can justify the Holocaust, it must never be forgotten! It's just that between 1919 and 1933 Germany was treated so shittily that it was a very easy game for the Nazis...
When decent people lose their jobs, can no longer feed their children, etc etc etc then anything can happen... Watch what happens nowadays!
Hungry people don't stay hungry for long, They get hope from fire and smoke as they reach for tha dawn. - Rage Against the Machine
I totally agree btw.
What happens is starvation and stress makes people stupid. And stupidity breeds fascism and violence.
Oh, I was expecting Kat would be on The Pacific too, but with your father will be cool as well 🙏
The first time I saw this episode, I broke down into tears when that old man stumbled into that soldier, kissed him, then started crying. This scene is extremely powerful
One of the French soldiers that executed the German soldiers was Tom Hanks
Sometimes the greatest art is meant to tear your heart out. Band Of Brothers was never afraid to do that and is to be commended for it. Great reaction,Kat made me tear up myself watching how it affected her.
This is the hardest episode for me to watch. Always makes me cry
We had no idea about the camps until 1945, most German soldiers didn't know what they were doing in camps
In this episode, it is very symbolic. In the beginning, it shows Nixon becoming a drunk because the shit he puts up with because of the war. Having to tell parents and loved ones that their son died a hero. Going through a divorce. Being demoted. All the atritions of war.
But once the camp was discovered, all of a sudden we see him not complaining so much. He now understands why he is there. Which is why this episode is called "Why we fight".
Movies are very complex like this if you study it good. Like the new replacement being called O'Brien or a different name. But at the camp, he is being called his real name.
Nixon is caught trespassing a house and then stared down by the lady living there. The stare of shame. But at the camp, it is nixon staring her down with the stare of shame. Her thinking that her husband or son probably contributed to the horrors of this genocide.
This movie was very powerful and very well orchestrated with the little details.
All the best to Kat. Hope she lands the job she wants.
Why every day we must stop from thinking of people as groups instead of individual human beings.
Have you notice the actor playing young Brendt Doppler in Dark ? He's such a gifted actor. Much respect.
I wish I could like this more than just once, thanks for doing this show and discussing this episode. You guys are awesome and I really appreciate your work.
The old German Officer's Wife reminds me of my Grandmother. Grandmother was Prussian. Her people were Vons and it showed. It was like being raised by Otto Von Bismark in a skirt. She did not give an inch. I needed some new sneekers one time and the price had gone up two dollars a pair. I thought she was going to beat the poor shoe salesman to death with her umbrella. She was always trying to get me to eat liverwurst, braunschweiger and cheese with caraway seeds in it. I dislike all those things but enjoy pumpernickel and just about everything else German.
Well, it may be tough but you got to love a woman who has standards and holds you and everyone else to them.
God bless the 🇺🇸, a blanket of protection and freedom!
That has to be the best joke I've read in a long time, I'll grant them that they weren't the biggest assholes in WW2, but before that and after that they were just assholes bossing around the whole world spreading their 'freedom' by installing so many dictators in countries.
The way they filmed the initial discovery followed by Perconte racing back is so amazingly well done. You know something important was discovered but it's so well filmed that you're still not sure if it's a camp or something else.
Thank you so much for reacting to this incredible show!!
As a side note, the man in the concentration camp who explains what happened there is actually also the actor of the 1950's Bernd Doppler in Dark :)
I love that you guys wear your hearts on your sleeves in your reactions. i really enjoy your post video chats. Good luck getting a new job Kat!
It's so weird seeing Tom Hardy not mumbling and grunting all his lines.
he was excellent in Bronson...no grunting or mumbling there...that I remember.
@@testpattern23 Agreed but Bronson was 12 years ago.
ah, you think darkness is your ally.
Weird not seeing Tom Hardy totally jacked.
I've watched the scene where they find the camps countless times.
It brings me to tears every single time...
If you haven't watched it. You should also consider watching the other HBO series "THE PACIFIC which has a different take of the war.
If Band of Brothers was about brotherhood and the bond between soldiers, The Pacific is about how brutal war is and how it eats away the humanity of even the gentlest of people.
My Grandfather fought in the Pacific. I can’t wait for the reactions.
Stevia, I had a history teacher it was also a veteran of the second world war tell me “If the war in Europe was a duel between gentlemen, then the war in the Pacific was a gutter knife fight.”
I’ve heard stories form both sides. My other grandpa was in the 82 Airborne and dropped into Normandy.
@@Notsosweetstevia hi miss i thank your grandfather for serving his time here in the Pacific. Much love from a Filipino man to yours.
I’m actually really glad she won’t watch The Pacific. She’s a precious bean who should be protected 🖤
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My grandfather fought in Europe and was there after the liberation of Peenemunde. He didn't talk much about what he saw because it was painful, but holy shit when he did it was heartbreaking. My grandfather died before this series came out on HBO and he wasn't Airborn, but he did see some terrible things. I don't think humans are meant to experience this kind of war. I don't think we have evolved to do this to each other and be okay with it. I love the Band of Brothers series and Stephan Ambrose did a great job, but this should stand as a warning of what we're capable of and why we should strive for the angels of our better nature and not plumb the depths our worst instincts.
I love the fact that your dads reviewing “The Pacific” with you. He’s extremely interesting. I look forward to it.
I always cry when I watched these scenes... it's heartbreaking, but also good because we must never forget. Thanks for the reaction guys
I cried my ass off for this episode. NEVER AGAIN.
Yup, don’t know why the media isn’t showing everyone the Uighur concentration camps in China
13:27 Liebgott breaking down always got me to tears
Watched this on Patreon, god damn.
I have re-watached BoB 3 times, not a brag, but a statement. It's such a great TV show and this episode, without fail, makes me cry EVERYTIME!