en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalissimo For example Suvorov was generalisimus and he is held as one of the Russian greatest military commander of all times, who never lost the battle.
'i have team artillery here!' next sentence: so lets delete our artillery here' (i know why you did it, it was just a fun combination, i smiled, dont judge me!)
@@TheEdmon Awesome! I am totally hyped for Panzer Corps 2, essentially it's the same game as the first. But damn, sometimes a little make-up can go a long way to enhance a game for me. It just looks and feels so modern now without losing any depth. :D
Looking at this to learn the ropes...As I see the biggest difference in the units are their special abilities, right? So better look twice especially when upgrading. I wonder, whether it is worth it taking something like a Fieseler Scout Plane or a Bridge Engineer. Most things I see in other videos is something of an attitude like 'they do not fight - they aren't worth it'. I would like to have your opinion on that matter. Yes, I know, two years later...
Bridge engineers are only useful for bypassing rivers. Spy planes are very useful to scout out enemy positions with, they are super cheap so easily lost and replaced.
Just a suggestion - maybe move your facecam to the right side of the screen under the turn counter? Currently it sometimes obscures the map and what you/AI are doing. You can cover the turn button it's not important but the turn/weather will be visible as will the most of the centre screen where stuff is happening Also, position your recon before arty/airstrikes the bonus is great and you can usually move it away afterwards Will be following your playthrough - good luck
Hey there! I have a bad habit of not using my recon when I could get a free bonus XD. However, on experimentation I have found the bonus early on makes little difference often. Not even generating an extra surpression or kill... so it's not the biggest deal. Later on it seems to matter more. I think the bonus may scale with the experience of the recon. So I get much better at being mindful about it. In terms of the camera, after 1,000's of videos with it in that position, I more or less instinctively know where it is and thus usually avoid it being in the way. There is probably a "more ideal" position for it in every game I play, but I think it's better for me to just reflexively try to center the action on the center bottom left ish of the screen. You seem to start at the bottom left for most of the grand campaign so this works quite well I think. Good suggestion though, but as a human of habit, it might end up more in the way accidentally if I move it now. Obviously I want to have it there to show I am playing live and there is no editing sorcery going on.
It seems that they have removed the ability to have a deployment phase at the beginning of the campaign in Poland in other words I cannot disband any of the starting core.
Hey quick question, since I can't seem to find it elsewhere, but what is yoru release schedule going to be for this campaign? Is it every two days and at what time will videos be made available? Thanks in advance.
Greetings, The next one of this will go out tomorrow. I may release it early, but it will be tomorrow at some point. Typically, a video goes out every day at 9pm GMT. At the moment, there is Corruption 2029, Kings Bounty and Panzer Corps 2 going out. So the videos are going out in order, daily, until the campaigns are completed. Corruption is a short game though and will end soon. There are also bonus videos that go out daily from the start of each month, these are generated by Patreon support, at the moment there will be an extra 23 videos going out next month based on that support. There are extra videos for every 50 subs, hence the release of the recent Battletech Revised Sneak Peak, as well. This months support videos have already gone out, they were started early as there was a flood of things I wanted to show. I hope this clears up the release schedule for you :). Hopefully one day, there will be enough Patreon support for this to be the primary thing I do, when that happens there will be 2 videos a day, everyday. Every doller matters, so consider your support!
i don't know too much about this game but are cities and towns where flags usually reside? if that's the case wouldn't it be better to give flag killer to an engineer unit since they will be the ones doing most of those attacks, or is the bonus so minimal for them that its better to give it to other units?
With you talking about the early finish bonus, I remembered playing Battle for Wesnoth (originaly a Linux title, but available on all platforms now). Have you tried it? Despite being a fantasy game it is very similar to Panzer Corps.
Well then, you should give it a go. While it isn't well known, it is both free and very good. It's gotten a bunch of new campaigns since I last had a look at it, and it's even on steam!
@@TheEdmon I think you are underestimating the power of AA. I have been getting amazing mileage out of my 7/1, as it just does so much damage even on my own turn. Against a MS406, I am often losing like 20 prestige per attack with fighters... but the 109's have 3 extra initiative. If you can supppress half the unit before you attack (and a 7/1 CAN suppress half the unit before it attacks, it really is an amazing AA piece), that means that there is almost nobody left to fire back at my 109's which doesn't just save prestige. It saves turns I don't have to reinforce, and it saves experience. It's a lot easier to farm exp with your 109's killing suppressed enemy fighters, where I am often getting 0-3 results where I would be getting 2-3 or 2-4 results without AA, depending on the enemy. I will say, I am finding SPAA vastly more practical than towed. I really haven't gotten any value out of my flakvierling at all, as it HAS 8 road movement points, but appears to set up and take down very slowly, as it can only move 5 points along a road and still deploy, when I was expecting 6. Way less usable in practice than I was expecting, as 5 movement per turn is just not really enough to keep up with your tanks and infantry in tight spaces. Also, with the new increased truck costs, post beta, I am thinking that honestly, towed equipment is just a bit underpowered at the moment. Sure, the 7/1 is more than twice the price of fighters, but it also does a LOT of suppression damage. On paper, you might think "oh, the 7/1 has 8 air attack, and the 109 has 10 air attack, 10 beats 8", but that 100% bonus rate of fire adds up quickly, meaning you are almost always getting a kill offensively, suppressing half the unit, and then on DEFENSE, you get ridiculous, as you aren't rolling 10 against 8, like a protective fighter would be. You are rolling 8 against 0 twice, which is NOT comparable. I don't even really know what will happen, as the AI will not initiate an attack. I think it's done the math. I admittedly am just getting into the game, so I am still on the second highest difficulty, but I expect this will only get more pronounced on the last difficulty, as fighter loss ratios will get worse as the enemy accuracy improves, but the 7/1 does NOT get shot by enemy bombers. The AI will not mess with a quad 20mm AA gun when it's deployed. I have seen fighters fly directly over my artillery, see my AA, and just end their turn without firing... at my 105mm artillery, which is ludicrously weak against strafing. In fact, next mission, I am going to give my 7/1 my camoflage hero just to see what happens. I expect it to be ridiculous.
@@timmietimmins3780 I will develop AA guns into my deployment as time goes on. Early on the coreslot and prestiege cost us huge for something that simply deters. But later on, when you have more units to protect and the enemy air force gets ever larger, it can start to pay for itself strongly even without AA vet.
@@TheEdmon Yeah, I feel they are not useful in poland anyways, as poland just doesn't really have anything in the way of strike aircraft ,and they are an active hindrance in norway south, as not only is norway's air force weak, but they are also a prime target for raiding on the boat ride across from denmark, AND their anti tank power is not relevant. Starting in france though, the 7/1 starts wrecking, when a second or third AT gun is very useful to protect against french armor, and the french planes start posing a serious threat to ME 109's.
@@TheEdmon Actually, I just wanted to amend that. Out of curiosity, I tried using a pair of 10/4's in poland, and they are still great. They are basically AT guns, that are more mobile than AT guns, that are cheaper than (towed) AT guns, that have 6 soft attack instead of 1, hard target type instead of soft, and are more mobile, and oh yeah, they have an anti aircraft attack. I feel like they are a sleeper great unit. No infantry can REALLY trade favorably with them when they are in AT mode with an artillery behind them. If a tank shows up out of nowhere, you are in less bad shape with them, even in anti aircraft mode, (8 hard attack, 9 ground defense attack, 14 initiative, 1.5 rapid fire), than you would be with most units except your best tanks and MAYBE grenadiers. These guys are just crazy good. I think they just completely replace the 37mm towed AT. And still shoot up and don't get wrecked by infantry as badly.
Might be, I have no clue. I know the A.I. goes after stuff it in theory should not be able to see. Sight from aircraft is sticky though (it persists into the next turn).
I think the AI will just speculate on where it thinks your units might be if it doesn't know. I am currently in the Ardennes, and I saw an enemy fighter fly onto a road, see my artillery directly below, and nope the hell out when it noticed my SDKFZ 7/1 Standing directly behind it (ended it's turn without firing). If the AI could truly see your units, it makes no sense whatsoever to fly into melee range of a 250 point AA gun only to get absolutely obliterated next turn, but it makes perfect sense for the AI to fly over to recon/attack the only road into bastogne.
@@TheEdmon I mean, there is a "Win the War" path and a "lose the War" path. At least, so I have heard. I heard that if you play certain missions instead of others and take certain objective during said missions you end up Winning the War while if you take other missions you end up Losing the War. I think that is why the Poland Campaign stat says you get between 20-23 missions total. 23 missions being the longer "Win the War" path and 20 Missions being the "Lose the War" path.
@@IansMentalOmega Currently, I am actually past the point where that "choice" is made in recording. Patreon supporters therefore know the answer since any amount of support unlocks the RAW files so you can enjoy all my content early in 2K. But I wouldn't want to spoil anything for those watching this series here on youtube. What I would say is that there is one extremely hard mission that determines your fate.
Not a joke, the more common word which I did know the meaning of is Generalissimo... which is like a kind of ultimate 5 star general. A generalissimus... apparently is a proposed (but not actually real) rank in a similar vein to a Generalissimo which was proposed in the Soviet Union. If you google Generalissimus... it actually thinks you mean Generalissimo. I highly doubt anyone, but the most avid WW2 historian, would have ever heard of a "Generalissimus". I think you probably thought of the word Generalissimo as well, at first.
@@TheEdmon Well, yes and no. The original is the Italian Generalissimo, for which the Italian plural is Generalissimos, the Latin variant of the plural would be Generalissimus, and that is what Russia used for several of their so called Generals of the Generals, or Generalissimus, and this rank also used during and after WWII in SU, mostly to be the rank for JS himself.
@@thorin1045 Well wikipedia says that the "mus" version was never used, that it was created for JS but that he never used it because he realized it was just really vain sounding. Not sure why you would expect anyone to know something so incredibly obscure that even you are getting aspects of it wrong.
@@TheEdmon The never used is a very strange idea, since the Russian awarded the mus version for several of their figures, since they used that version. And it is debated whether JS accepted, not used but accepted or rejected it, especially since it is of course obscured by history and Soviet propaganda. But, irrelevant what ending we use, it means the exact same concept, that even you said you know, so yes, i have issues considering it obscure, since this is little more than spelling, same idea in different languages, and it was quite easily recognizable.
@@thorin1045 Words that are spelt differently are different words. Since I am now learning Norwegian, I have learned to not presume anything about a word with slightly different spelling. Especially when the original word is already pretty obscure.
![Preview Let's Play: Panzer Corps 2 (01) [Deutsch]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/sxEZXb79J5M/mqdefault.jpg)
Watching the Polish guys retreat to hills.
"It's over, TheEdmon! We have the High Ground!"
"No. You have the High Graveyard."
Death with a nice view.
That 15 strength cannon looks like potential magnet for airstrikes, probably will turn out high maintenance unit.
I agree, but also as a single unit it can be easier to protect it, by placing a fighter, scout plane or strat bomber over it.
The manual states very clearly that when it comes to tracing supply, ALL map edge hexes count as supply bases.
Cheers
Great game. Just became a patreon. I really like this series and the way you present your thought process.
This is an older campaign so, I hope you see the improvement over the many series :)
Generalissimus is a title, that Stalin took for himself during the war. That means commander of all armies i think.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalissimo
For example Suvorov was generalisimus and he is held as one of the Russian greatest military commander of all times, who never lost the battle.
The margin of the edge will give you eternal supply!!!
It will.
Great stuff...thanks my man.
Nice one btw the support is given if the attacker is in range of the artillery the supported unit does not have to be attaches with the artillerie
WOOOOO Coronavirus quarantine special
It's like free time off, to be honest XD.
It makes for perfect night shift watching too!
@@snigie1 Of course! :)
@@TheEdmon I got 5 days off work from Monday. :)
@@Wally1967 Nice!
Saw this game on xbox game pass and wanted to see if its worth downloading, found your channel really like your commentary.
Thanks, great to hear :).
'i have team artillery here!' next sentence: so lets delete our artillery here'
(i know why you did it, it was just a fun combination, i smiled, dont judge me!)
:D
That killer team. well nice knowing cities then, that trench slog negative got compesated by a killer artillery hero team.
It's not a problem anyway because I use engineers to clear cities and they ignore entrenchment anyway...
Ok playing through against some Brits on blind a bit. Now starting my Edmon campaign
Good luck :D
@@TheEdmon Thanks. Gonna have to try Norway South this time though I hated Norway North.
Can you rename the over-strengthened artillery and call it "Schwerer Gustav"? It would certainly fit seeing the massive damage it deals. :D
Big Bertha, but like, 5 years early? XD.
@@TheEdmon Yeah! Will we command an actual railway artillery piece in one of the maps? Would be sweet.
@@anubjin I think so! The model is in the game... I've seen it in the editor...
@@TheEdmon Awesome! I am totally hyped for Panzer Corps 2, essentially it's the same game as the first. But damn, sometimes a little make-up can go a long way to enhance a game for me. It just looks and feels so modern now without losing any depth. :D
Looking at this to learn the ropes...As I see the biggest difference in the units are their special abilities, right? So better look twice especially when upgrading. I wonder, whether it is worth it taking something like a Fieseler Scout Plane or a Bridge Engineer. Most things I see in other videos is something of an attitude like 'they do not fight - they aren't worth it'. I would like to have your opinion on that matter. Yes, I know, two years later...
Bridge engineers are only useful for bypassing rivers. Spy planes are very useful to scout out enemy positions with, they are super cheap so easily lost and replaced.
Can i play this game already, if i buy the Field Marshal edition?
Not right now no, you will have to wait until the 19th for launch.
Just a suggestion - maybe move your facecam to the right side of the screen under the turn counter?
Currently it sometimes obscures the map and what you/AI are doing. You can cover the turn button it's not important but the turn/weather will be visible as will the most of the centre screen where stuff is happening
Also, position your recon before arty/airstrikes the bonus is great and you can usually move it away afterwards
Will be following your playthrough - good luck
Hey there!
I have a bad habit of not using my recon when I could get a free bonus XD. However, on experimentation I have found the bonus early on makes little difference often. Not even generating an extra surpression or kill... so it's not the biggest deal. Later on it seems to matter more. I think the bonus may scale with the experience of the recon. So I get much better at being mindful about it.
In terms of the camera, after 1,000's of videos with it in that position, I more or less instinctively know where it is and thus usually avoid it being in the way. There is probably a "more ideal" position for it in every game I play, but I think it's better for me to just reflexively try to center the action on the center bottom left ish of the screen. You seem to start at the bottom left for most of the grand campaign so this works quite well I think.
Good suggestion though, but as a human of habit, it might end up more in the way accidentally if I move it now. Obviously I want to have it there to show I am playing live and there is no editing sorcery going on.
It seems that they have removed the ability to have a deployment phase at the beginning of the campaign in Poland in other words I cannot disband any of the starting core.
Not the case, you just need to tick a box called "custom army" in the advanced settings before you start the campaign.
@@TheEdmon Thanks!
Hey quick question, since I can't seem to find it elsewhere, but what is yoru release schedule going to be for this campaign? Is it every two days and at what time will videos be made available? Thanks in advance.
Greetings,
The next one of this will go out tomorrow. I may release it early, but it will be tomorrow at some point. Typically, a video goes out every day at 9pm GMT.
At the moment, there is Corruption 2029, Kings Bounty and Panzer Corps 2 going out. So the videos are going out in order, daily, until the campaigns are completed. Corruption is a short game though and will end soon.
There are also bonus videos that go out daily from the start of each month, these are generated by Patreon support, at the moment there will be an extra 23 videos going out next month based on that support. There are extra videos for every 50 subs, hence the release of the recent Battletech Revised Sneak Peak, as well. This months support videos have already gone out, they were started early as there was a flood of things I wanted to show.
I hope this clears up the release schedule for you :). Hopefully one day, there will be enough Patreon support for this to be the primary thing I do, when that happens there will be 2 videos a day, everyday. Every doller matters, so consider your support!
i don't know too much about this game but are cities and towns where flags usually reside? if that's the case wouldn't it be better to give flag killer to an engineer unit since they will be the ones doing most of those attacks, or is the bonus so minimal for them that its better to give it to other units?
It would be decent on infantry, too. It just really helps dive bombers to get work done.
Try using Tab to make it easier to select aircraft without misclicking or going into the unit list. I always forget about it too
With you talking about the early finish bonus, I remembered playing Battle for Wesnoth (originaly a Linux title, but available on all platforms now).
Have you tried it? Despite being a fantasy game it is very similar to Panzer Corps.
Not heard of this game, at all.
Well then, you should give it a go. While it isn't well known, it is both free and very good. It's gotten a bunch of new campaigns since I last had a look at it, and it's even on steam!
we need anti air, 8,8cm FlaK, so we save a lot of Prestige for replacements
You really don't need the 8.8, it's nice but it's too expensive and fighters are not only better at the role but vastly cheaper (like 4x cheaper).
@@TheEdmon I think you are underestimating the power of AA. I have been getting amazing mileage out of my 7/1, as it just does so much damage even on my own turn. Against a MS406, I am often losing like 20 prestige per attack with fighters... but the 109's have 3 extra initiative. If you can supppress half the unit before you attack (and a 7/1 CAN suppress half the unit before it attacks, it really is an amazing AA piece), that means that there is almost nobody left to fire back at my 109's which doesn't just save prestige. It saves turns I don't have to reinforce, and it saves experience. It's a lot easier to farm exp with your 109's killing suppressed enemy fighters, where I am often getting 0-3 results where I would be getting 2-3 or 2-4 results without AA, depending on the enemy.
I will say, I am finding SPAA vastly more practical than towed. I really haven't gotten any value out of my flakvierling at all, as it HAS 8 road movement points, but appears to set up and take down very slowly, as it can only move 5 points along a road and still deploy, when I was expecting 6. Way less usable in practice than I was expecting, as 5 movement per turn is just not really enough to keep up with your tanks and infantry in tight spaces. Also, with the new increased truck costs, post beta, I am thinking that honestly, towed equipment is just a bit underpowered at the moment.
Sure, the 7/1 is more than twice the price of fighters, but it also does a LOT of suppression damage. On paper, you might think "oh, the 7/1 has 8 air attack, and the 109 has 10 air attack, 10 beats 8", but that 100% bonus rate of fire adds up quickly, meaning you are almost always getting a kill offensively, suppressing half the unit, and then on DEFENSE, you get ridiculous, as you aren't rolling 10 against 8, like a protective fighter would be. You are rolling 8 against 0 twice, which is NOT comparable. I don't even really know what will happen, as the AI will not initiate an attack. I think it's done the math.
I admittedly am just getting into the game, so I am still on the second highest difficulty, but I expect this will only get more pronounced on the last difficulty, as fighter loss ratios will get worse as the enemy accuracy improves, but the 7/1 does NOT get shot by enemy bombers. The AI will not mess with a quad 20mm AA gun when it's deployed. I have seen fighters fly directly over my artillery, see my AA, and just end their turn without firing... at my 105mm artillery, which is ludicrously weak against strafing.
In fact, next mission, I am going to give my 7/1 my camoflage hero just to see what happens. I expect it to be ridiculous.
@@timmietimmins3780 I will develop AA guns into my deployment as time goes on. Early on the coreslot and prestiege cost us huge for something that simply deters. But later on, when you have more units to protect and the enemy air force gets ever larger, it can start to pay for itself strongly even without AA vet.
@@TheEdmon Yeah, I feel they are not useful in poland anyways, as poland just doesn't really have anything in the way of strike aircraft ,and they are an active hindrance in norway south, as not only is norway's air force weak, but they are also a prime target for raiding on the boat ride across from denmark, AND their anti tank power is not relevant.
Starting in france though, the 7/1 starts wrecking, when a second or third AT gun is very useful to protect against french armor, and the french planes start posing a serious threat to ME 109's.
@@TheEdmon Actually, I just wanted to amend that. Out of curiosity, I tried using a pair of 10/4's in poland, and they are still great. They are basically AT guns, that are more mobile than AT guns, that are cheaper than (towed) AT guns, that have 6 soft attack instead of 1, hard target type instead of soft, and are more mobile, and oh yeah, they have an anti aircraft attack.
I feel like they are a sleeper great unit. No infantry can REALLY trade favorably with them when they are in AT mode with an artillery behind them. If a tank shows up out of nowhere, you are in less bad shape with them, even in anti aircraft mode, (8 hard attack, 9 ground defense attack, 14 initiative, 1.5 rapid fire), than you would be with most units except your best tanks and MAYBE grenadiers.
These guys are just crazy good. I think they just completely replace the 37mm towed AT. And still shoot up and don't get wrecked by infantry as badly.
How did the enemy fighter see your infantry and attack at the end of your turn 2? Was that just luck on their part?
Might be, I have no clue. I know the A.I. goes after stuff it in theory should not be able to see. Sight from aircraft is sticky though (it persists into the next turn).
I think the AI will just speculate on where it thinks your units might be if it doesn't know.
I am currently in the Ardennes, and I saw an enemy fighter fly onto a road, see my artillery directly below, and nope the hell out when it noticed my SDKFZ 7/1 Standing directly behind it (ended it's turn without firing). If the AI could truly see your units, it makes no sense whatsoever to fly into melee range of a 250 point AA gun only to get absolutely obliterated next turn, but it makes perfect sense for the AI to fly over to recon/attack the only road into bastogne.
Hey, are you going for the "Best" playthrough, i.e. where you win the war?
Well I certainly wasn't planning to lose any battles... :P
@@TheEdmon I mean, there is a "Win the War" path and a "lose the War" path. At least, so I have heard.
I heard that if you play certain missions instead of others and take certain objective during said missions you end up Winning the War while if you take other missions you end up Losing the War. I think that is why the Poland Campaign stat says you get between 20-23 missions total. 23 missions being the longer "Win the War" path and 20 Missions being the "Lose the War" path.
@@IansMentalOmega Currently, I am actually past the point where that "choice" is made in recording. Patreon supporters therefore know the answer since any amount of support unlocks the RAW files so you can enjoy all my content early in 2K. But I wouldn't want to spoil anything for those watching this series here on youtube. What I would say is that there is one extremely hard mission that determines your fate.
How come you got 3 heroes at the start and I only got 1 in the 2nd mission North Poland.?
There is a perk called "Killer team" that gives you 3 heroes. It costs 2 commanders points.
Как он все долго делает
I hope that was a joke, that you don't know what Generalissimus means...
Not a joke, the more common word which I did know the meaning of is Generalissimo... which is like a kind of ultimate 5 star general. A generalissimus... apparently is a proposed (but not actually real) rank in a similar vein to a Generalissimo which was proposed in the Soviet Union. If you google Generalissimus... it actually thinks you mean Generalissimo.
I highly doubt anyone, but the most avid WW2 historian, would have ever heard of a "Generalissimus". I think you probably thought of the word Generalissimo as well, at first.
@@TheEdmon Well, yes and no. The original is the Italian Generalissimo, for which the Italian plural is Generalissimos, the Latin variant of the plural would be Generalissimus, and that is what Russia used for several of their so called Generals of the Generals, or Generalissimus, and this rank also used during and after WWII in SU, mostly to be the rank for JS himself.
@@thorin1045 Well wikipedia says that the "mus" version was never used, that it was created for JS but that he never used it because he realized it was just really vain sounding.
Not sure why you would expect anyone to know something so incredibly obscure that even you are getting aspects of it wrong.
@@TheEdmon The never used is a very strange idea, since the Russian awarded the mus version for several of their figures, since they used that version. And it is debated whether JS accepted, not used but accepted or rejected it, especially since it is of course obscured by history and Soviet propaganda.
But, irrelevant what ending we use, it means the exact same concept, that even you said you know, so yes, i have issues considering it obscure, since this is little more than spelling, same idea in different languages, and it was quite easily recognizable.
@@thorin1045 Words that are spelt differently are different words. Since I am now learning Norwegian, I have learned to not presume anything about a word with slightly different spelling. Especially when the original word is already pretty obscure.
The manual states very clearly that when it comes to tracing supply, ALL map edge hexes count as supply bases.
Cheers