Mark Fisher - It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism (2009)
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Chapter 1 of Capitalist Realism: Is There No Alternative? (2009).
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‘At the same time as particular modernist forms were absorbed and commodified, modernism's credos - its supposed belief in elitism and its monological, top-down model of culture - were challenged and rejected in the name of “difference”, “diversity” and “multiplicity”. Capitalist realism no longer stages this kind of confrontation with modernism. On the contrary, it takes the vanquishing of modernism for granted: modernism is now something that can periodically return, but only as a frozen aesthetic style, never as an ideal for living.’
Really good book thank's for the audiobook
your reading i'd say is preferable to Brand's reading on audible. thank you!
Thanks. I couldn’t listen to that creep for more than 10 mins
Good call
Hubris in built to eschatological technology. We are the Anthropocene of death.
is this hubris of technology not the hubris of the universe, of god himself? perhaps it is god that cant imagine the end of this all...
I imagine the end of capitalism all the time, as well as the end of capitalists.
you must know so much more than lenin and friends then...
even marx had no idea what communism would be and he admitted as such fully. hegelian owl 🦉
The end of "capitalism" is "socialism". The fixed distinction between the two is indeed imaginary
The latter ideology inflicted upon deeply spiritual beings like Fisher a miserable state of reactionary materialism against the former
It is errendous to conflate what Marx and Engels, and the socialists before them, labeled capitalism, with what Fisher labels capitalism in contemporary society. "Late stage capitalism" is socialism, though not very proletarian, I'm sorry to announce
"We let millions of Africans die of aids". Save some moral high ground for the rest of us
Who are "we" and why do we blame ourselves for extracontinental deaths in disease? Even more urgent, who are we to "let" people die? We can save lives, for a period, sure, but in what sense are we in a position to "let" people live and die respectively? Is he simply confusing us with some hypothetical supernatural being?
He just throws something out there with no further insights. If there was entire movements of idealist missionaries devoted to actual problem solving not just brief moralisms and catchphrases perhaps the issue could find a relative solution
@@user-hu3iy9gz5j An interesting take, but imo one of the defining traits of "late" capitalism is its defeatist/acceptist "anti-politics", in which all functions "without antagonism" (a fantasy of course) and I cant think of any meaningful definition of socialism that sees politics as its enemy. Perhaps if we view the enlightenment/apocalyptic christian discourse of tech-capital AS the politics of communism, and I certainly agree with that: What was communism supposed to be for the 20s crew if not technological Heaven on earth? They were even thinking of biogenetic manipulation as the answer, which is rapidly unfolding today: Gene edit away our pain and misery...
Christianity bites back there, as with its shallow alignment with buddhism, pain is not caused by your nerves, but your misplaced faith in your nerves!
life is much older than the disease of capitalism. if they couldn't imagine it, they wouldn't have pursued it@@OsirusHandle