Trying To Save Time: The RA-2 Critically & Radiological Accident | Short Documentary
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- Опубліковано 7 жов 2024
- On September 23, 1983, a Radiological criticality accident occurred in the RA-2 experimental test reactor, the incident released fissile material, took the life of an operator and irradiated many more.....
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I didn't hear the outro song at all in the main video btw
Was waiting for "Mr music play us off" and it never came 😭
Reminds me of the music on the phone queue for my GP.
@@CantHandleThisCanYa Same! :c
Have you done Chalk River near Ottawa Ontario? I think it was the first nuclear accident.
Oh goody! Plainly difficult doing criticality event in some backwater country, this is going to be good! Oh as for future video's, you could take nuclear events in popular media? Plenty of nuclear mishaps from movies and books. Like Tom Clancy's Sum of all Fears movie versus the book version as they have rather different outcomes.
"Sadly, there aren't many more disasters to cover"
You and I, Sir, have very different definitions of "sadly".
Balls.
It's "sad" in 2 senses... firstly we've reached a point where nuclear power safety protocols are actually being followed, secondly we've been moving away from the use of nuclear power.
@@DevasiaMentalityGaming Yeah THIS: NEW Nuclear plants are not common at ALL.
@@DevasiaMentalityGaming Yup, it's sad how we're not using Nuclear Power any more. Especially when you consider just how safe NP is nowadays, when used correctly. Most people never consider just how environmentally clean a competently run Nuclear Power Station is, not knowing or caring that a coal fired power station puts out much more radiation than a NPS, and spreads that radiation over a much wider area. Sure, Nuclear accidents are bad, but they are also really rare - that's why they make the news. Meanwhile, fossil fuelled power stations pump out low level radiation day-after-day, with nary a peep from the media, the same media who would scream it from the hilltops should a worker stub his toe at a NPS...
Pft there are some things he still hasn't covered.
"The list of nuclear accidents is nearly exhausted. You can help by *expanding it* !"
They can't take ALL the smoke detectors from us
*CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!*
_sneaks into Los Alamos National Laboratory to obtain fissile materials..._
(Plz FBI this is a joke. Please don't flash bang my doggos.)
@Hansengineering just ordered 1000 smoke alarms.....I'm gunna go hahn on this thing!
@@KensCounselingCouchdo you know the diffrance between a 84" dildo and a joke...
FBI dont take a joke.
You silly billy, that's the ATF!!!@@KensCounselingCouch
It's been so long since we've felt the warm blue glow of a PD criticality accident video.
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Likewise, I would like to give glowing reviews to this radiant display of human ingenuity.
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Lame comment
@@PlainlyDifficult - It's usually followed by an uncontrollable wet and explosive diarrhea. Even the fuel rod containment tank can't contain it once it goes critical lmao :D: :D
Argentinian historian here. Amazing video and an amazing subject! Been waiting for this for a long time.
Thank you!!
The uncontrollable diarrhea part got me nauseous.... those poor guys.
@@BillAnt it can get a whole lot worse. Hisashi Ouchi can attest.
I would argue that "crew in a hurry to get something done before the end of the day" qualifies as "time pressure", in which case BINGO
The topper would be if this had been on Friday the 13th.
That's right! Haste makes waste, is what I was always taught!
I think they were in a hurry to get the weekend started, so not really a work related time pressure.
I think that only relates to timepressure you get from above or the work environement.
This guy just wanted to get to get a early weekend.
I live in Argentina and certainly never knew any of this. This happened before I was born, but neither my parents or older relatives seem to know about it
Proves how well it was covered up!
To Be Fair... all national governments (and the businesses, & politicians) have a vested interest in "information flow"... And sometimes an 'event' is over-shadowed obscured by current local events/news....
Considering how many Nazis fled there after the war, it makes sense. Quite a few of them were scientists like the ones snatched up by USA and USSR.
Same here. It makes sense considering the time period, tho. And the scale of the incident was rather small, so I can see how it could be easily swept under the carpet while the whole country was dealing with political turmoil.
Same. It was a very convulted time for our country. And I'm glad John didn't need to touch the extremely sensitive subject of the prior year's war.
Oooh, finally a new nuclear incident on Plainly Difficult, let's goooo!
yah... .le sigh .. ☢😁
Its the reason I subbed long long ago
Side note, this year an I-131 canister was stolen from a delivery van in Buenos Aires, Argentina. The empty box was found in a trash container, but the material itself was missing for days. Luckily, there were no reports of anyone hurt.
That’s always scary!!
Man, at least no one got hurt. That is some scary shit how often this happens.
@@PlainlyDifficult it just means a year from now you get to cover "The Argentina contamination event" where thieves unknowingly irradiated an entire village
it was missing for days? so it was found... and likely that means whoever stole it was caught?
@@AndrewBrowner It was found in a trash container. I don't think the thief was in the container too.
i´m from Argentina, by the time i have 10 years old and live just 60 miles from Atucha and i have no idea about it.
Proves how well it was covered up!
This happened at the Constituyentes Atomic Center, in the middle of Buenos Aires.
I think things like this should never be carried out on a Friday. There is a mentality that just begs for a f*ck up. Also, it was very much a case of familiarity breeding contempt. Nothing ever happened before, so it isn't going to happen. Sometimes someone with the most experience is the most dangerous because they do things as they always have and won't stick to regulations. On his own, seemingly no PPE, should have had someone watching over him etc, etc.
A good example of this is the Tenerife Airport Disaster where two fully loaded airplanes hit one another on the runway killing over 500 people. The one aircraft didn't get the go ahead to fly and because he was a very skilled pilot and his personality, made the rest of the crew afraid to challenge his decision making.
It was the catalyst for Crew Resource Management in the airline industry.
Same reason you don't buy a car made on a Friday. You want the Tuesday car (post Monday hangover, pre hump day).
The operator was stupid and didn't know he was stupid. So I would say a stupid test before work would be necessary.
Statistically, Mondays are the most accident-prone. (And you can't really fix it by having people not work on Mondays, because then Tuesdays would become the most dangerous.)
The reason you don't want to do stuff like this on Friday afternoon, is because if someone screwed it up, you won't discover the mistake until Monday. You don't want to come in to work after the weekend to find radioactive slag all over the floor.
Nuclear incident or not, I don't care what you cover Plainly D, you're still the man and your channel and music are still amazing! There are plenty of dam, mining, building, and collapsing incidents to cover. I look forward to whatever you cover in the future my friend!
P.s. wearing my RBMK shirt currently!
Yes, please do a piece on the incident in Germany ! Be well my friend. Love your channel...
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Which incident do you mean?
@@stanislavczebinski994I think he means the one in Hamm in 1986. That's a happier one, in that it's a "disaster narrowly averted" incident.
@@robertwilloughby8050 yup, that's the one where they used the Tschernobyl incident to cover up the radio isotopes blown into the environment. Unfortunately for them, one of the isotopes could not originate from a Tschernobyl, but only from a type in Hamm-Uentrop.
There have been 2 Interesting nuclear Accidents in germany, one in Greifswald 1975.
And another one in Gundremmingen Block A in 1977.
As an argentinian, i didn't know about this incident.
It looks like there's something new to learn every day!
There is the phrase, “cutting corners.” I’ve always known it to mean taking a dangerous shortcut and racing to complete a task that leads to sloppy work. Increasing the risk of failure over time as the corners get cut more often. I think the visualization of the square with rounded corners is a good way to understand it.
Criticality accidents are so scary how people can receive a fatal dose in a fraction of a second. Instant dead man walking.
Man's cooked
I wonder what it would look like if the whole room was a cloud chamber and we could see the particles streaks. Millions of streaks all at once?
Yes. And the realisation that you're dead, but it will take a few days of increasing agony.
Luckily this man died just a few days after the incident, so he didn't have to suffer for so long, like others did. 😔
The worst case I've heard of is that 1999 Japanese incident, poor guy decomposed whilst he was alive in 88 days. 😢
I'm from Argentina, in 1983 I was 10-years-old and live relatively close to Centro Atomico Constituyentes complex, in San Martín district. Me and my family never know about this incident. This is proof of how well the cover-up worked. Everything bad that happened had to be hidden to people. In the later days of PRN, it was a sad period of dark shadow over the country.
It's good to see John is going back to radiological stuff now and then. It's the main reason I subscribed years ago. So... yes, Germany 1984 please :-)
Wow, I'm argentinian and I had never heard of this...
I would just like to say that I have one objection on the bingo card. Fatigue should be included, since a classic symptom of fatigue is poor decision making, and it as a Friday before a weekend, and thus it is reasonable to presume that the operator error had some component of fatigue, it should also probably have time pressure since getthereitis would be in full effect.
your accent along with your mellow tone are nice to listen to. i fall asleep to your compilations.
I agree though I find it a wee bit creepy to fall asleep to tales of grossly accidents lol 😊 he could easily have a second income telling bedtime stories.
Thank you!! I do read my children bed stories they are less deathy though!!
New channel time. Bedtime stories by john
My little old fat Jack Russell Terrier is snoring!
You could talk about Broken Arrows or Empty Quivers, like when we almost nuked North Carolina and made a major chunk of it uninhabitable for decades.
Broken arrows are fascinating.
I'm not familiar with what Empty Quivers is though? Or at least don't remember at the moment.
@@goosenotmaverick1156 there's actually a few different terms for these kinds of incidents (source: Wikipedia article "United States military nuclear incident terminology")
*Bent Spear*
Bent Spear refers to incidents involving nuclear weapons, warheads, components or vehicles transporting nuclear material that are of significant interest but are not categorized as Pinnacle - Nucflash or Pinnacle - Broken Arrow. Bent Spear incidents include violations or breaches of handling and security regulations.
An example of a Bent Spear incident occurred on the August 2007 flight of a B-52 bomber from Minot AFB to Barksdale AFB which mistakenly carried six cruise missiles with live nuclear warheads.
*Broken Arrow*
Broken Arrow refers to an accidental event that involves nuclear weapons, warheads or components that does not create a risk of nuclear war. These include:
• Accidental or unexplained nuclear explosion
• Non-nuclear detonation or burning of a nuclear weapon
• Radioactive contamination
• Loss in transit of nuclear asset with or without its carrying vehicle
• Jettisoning of a nuclear weapon or nuclear component
• Public hazard, actual or implied
*Empty Quiver*
Empty Quiver refers to the seizure, theft, or loss of a functioning nuclear weapon.
*Nucflash*
Nucflash refers to detonation or possible detonation of a nuclear weapon which creates a risk of an outbreak of nuclear war. Events which may be classified Nucflash include:
•Accidental, unauthorized, or unexplained nuclear detonation or possible detonation.
•Accidental or unauthorized launch of a nuclear-armed or nuclear-capable missile in the direction of, or having the capability to reach, another nuclear-capable country.
•Unauthorized flight of, or deviation from an approved flight plan by, a nuclear-armed or nuclear-capable aircraft with the capability to penetrate the airspace of another nuclear-capable country.
•Detection of unidentified objects by a missile warning system or interference (experienced by such a system or related communications) that appears threatening and could create a risk of nuclear war.
This term is a report that has the highest precedence in the OPREP-3 reporting structure. All other reporting terms such as Broken Arrow, Empty Quiver, etc., while very important, are secondary to this report.
*Faded Giant*
Faded Giant refers to an event involving a military nuclear reactor or other radiological accident not involving nuclear weapons, such as the SL-1 reactor explosion.
*Dull Sword*
Dull Sword refers to reports of minor incidents involving nuclear weapons, components or systems, or which could impair their deployments. This could include actions involving vehicles capable of carrying nuclear weapons but with no nuclear weapons on board at the time of the accident. This also is used in reports of damage or deficiencies with equipment, tools, or diagnostic testers that are designed for use on nuclear weapons or the nuclear weapon release systems of nuclear-capable aircraft.
@@goosenotmaverick1156 "Empty Quiver refers to the seizure, theft, or loss of a functioning nuclear weapon."
@@Wolfshead009 thanks! I understood it to be related but wasn't sure what it was specifically. Appreciate it!
a large chunk uninhabitable for decades... dont exaggerate, nonsense like that is why nuclear is misunderstood and feared
Waiting for mysterious nuclear incidents to start randomly happening around the world, and the only thing people noticed at the time was a smooth British voice calling themselves "John" was narrating the failure cascade.
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Cover anything you want man! The way you report these events, break apart the decisions, reactions, and designs is why I keep coming back.
Your channel is the love baby of the UA-cam channel Mentour Pilot, and the podcast cautionary tales. And that is pretty cool
9:50 I don't think it sadly thatyou covered this many already. The good number off accidents is 0.
I enjoy watching your videos. I’m an RCT. I use your videos as training guides for our RCT group. You may have run out of Nuclear disasters to produce “Disaster” videos, but there are numerous radiological events that I’ve seen in the news and are public. Hanford site and West Valley Site that are recent events that can and should be highlighted, not just about the events but also for how with proper engineering and planning, working through the most difficult challenges and with experienced personnel, these projects were able to regain the public confidence to be allowed to recover and complete the projects without further incident. Hanford contamination spread and Went Valley Demo incidents are two that come to mind. Many thanks to you and your team for your time and effort to create all of your other video content .i love the history of nuclear power.
Yes. Cover it please!! And thank you for the wonderful vid. It was the perfect watch while doing my morning stretches at 6:30am in Kalifornia.
Thank you!!
Your friend's square to circle analogy does makes sense to me, it's cutting corners until there are none left.
I sure would like to see that 1984 German incident. I haven't caught up with your videos for a while, but as soon as I watched this video I remembered why I enjoy your content so much. The subject matter is often bleak, but done in a tasteful yet sometimes humorous way without mocking any of the victims. As a mechanical engineer I like learning how things work, and for example thanks to these videos I now know how products are sterilized (i.e. conveyor belt around a radiation source) which is both fascinating and practical as I work at a medical device company in Minnesota where we send things out to get gamma sterilized all the time. I also enjoy learning about safety systems, history, and what not to do with regards to design, lack of government oversight, etc. All in all, very good stuff and thank you for so many hours of enjoyment.
You should cover heavy water gas cooled reactor (HWGCR) Jaslovske Bohunice, Slovakia. It's two accidents in one, the latter is INES-4. If you google "The A1 Nuclear Power Plant in Jaslovske Bohunice, Slovakia" you will arrive at a short and sweet resource that would be perfect level of detail for your video.
It’s already in the works probably in two weeks time 🫡
@@PlainlyDifficult I could've sworn it's been already covered 😃 Anyway, if you didn't yet, there's an article on idnes website that's worth checking out. It also contains link to an article with more detailed technical information, although it's in Czech/Slovak, machine translators are hopefully far enough to produce intelligible results.
@@PlainlyDifficult
One more thing, there's also interesting blog series "Historia atomky A1" by Ernest Jezik. Regarding to some, it's "inaccurate at best", its author being active opponent of nuclear energy and political views affected parts of the series, but it's still an interesting insight.
Thanks for this one, been wanting to see your breakdown of it.
Greetings from Argentina!!!! It's great you made a video about this accident. 😁
Little known accident happened in Alabama with browns ferry nuclear facility that’s kind of interesting. A maintenance worker was using a flame to check for air leak and the flame got sucked into the wiring. I’m going to add, this was before Three Mile Island and could have been as bad if not worse.
As someone from said country...I didnt knew about this.
I've been watching this channel for years (your covering of nuclear incidents made me subscribe) and thought that you exhausted all nuclear incidents... Great that you have a few left
10:28 No Mr. Music Man?!
Oh dear
1,000,000 SUBS!!! Congrats!!! Rock on!!!
this channel is the perfect channel to relax and fall asleep too, despite the plainly difficult topics 😏, Thanks for not putting any ridiculous music over the videos though man! Absolutely love your story telling, respectful and informative! ❤
Bro really risked his life cause he didn't want to wait for the water to empty.
yeah although it wasn't just that, it's sloppiness at its maximum...
May I suggest the 1977 and 1990 orphan source events in Sasolburg, South Africa as potential topics for future videos?
8:54 - The phenomenon is called "Normalisation of Deviance".
The idea that "we broke the rules before and got away with it, so we'll do it this way, again".
Nuclear accidents are one of the few videos that give me the heebie-jeebies, especially criticality ones - but the ones that got me hooked to this channel 😳
Congratulations on reaching 1 Million Subscribers (myself included)! A most impressive accomplishment achieved from all your hard work, research, and creativity.
“Worker acting alone” should be an entire free line on the radiological incident bingo card
If you're looking for more nuclear accidents to cover, I'd suggest you check out the one that took place in Yanango, Perú, in 1999. I had never heard of it until I was sent the IAEA report -available online- by a friend. Interesting reading, and it also contains pictures.
I've been waiting a long time for you to do this one. Thanks mate
"but sadly, there aren't many more disasters to cover"
You got to love John from London
back with nucleal
john coming back to his roots with this video! the incident in Rhode Island he covered way back when made me a subscriber
Argentinian here. I find it bizarre not having heard of this ever in my life, not just me, but also any older relatives I've asked about it. This is crazy
same reason most americans don't know we shot down an airliner with a missile ship in the 1980's
(iran still hates our guts to this day over it)
Honestly, you can make a video about any accident and I'd be happy to watch it. Great video as always!
I would volunteer in extending the list of accidents, but only if I can be the hazmat guy that stands on top of the other guys foot.
@5:40, the infamous Friday afternoon, I never have important meetings or schedule important tasks on Fridays afternoons, people are already switching off mentally. Obviously if its important, thats another matter, but things that can be moved to a Monday should never be held on Friday.
Having worked in the nuclear industry i find these events fascinating and scary at the same time.
i've been asking for this one for a long while. Thanks John, you have improved my weekend
I’m interested in learning about any nuclear accidents that you’re willing to cover. I binge watched all of the other nuclear disasters that you covered. I enjoy many of your other videos as well because of the way you present the material. It’s obvious that you do your research.
Thanks very much PD.
I've heard rumours that there was a criticality accident in 2016 at a small Russian test reactor but useful details seem to be hard to get hold of.
Thanks John! Of course we want to know about the Germany incident!!!
"Nothing to see here folks. Move along now! Go back to celebrating!"
Dear Plainly Difficult, I would like to recommend another nuclear accident that happened in Slovakia (former Czechoslovakia) at the nuclear power plant of Jaslovske Bohunice. It was the first nuclear power plant in Slovakia back in the day. Let me know if you've seen this one. Have a good one! Cheers, Simon
😉coming soon!
Thanks - your videos are always interesting, and unlike many mini-docs on UA-cam, there's no weird-ass text-to-voice narration.
Yes, please cover that other disaster that most haven't heard of. Thanks.
balls
It must be said.
Glowing-balls at that!
balles
Oh a blue flash...never good.
Interesting, one I haven’t heard much about!
Proves how well it was covered up!
Love all your work bruv! Made my day seeing the new vid drop this morning ❤❤❤
Oh sick! John's gone back to his roots!
Would deffo be interested in that video about the German incident.
The wall still stood in 83...Are we talking east or west?
Heck yeah! I am always excited to see a new video from you, including the weather description! I live about 30 miles from Three Mile Island by the way. Hopefully no events there for at least the next 25 or so years, after that I’ll probably be dead and won’t care!
Hell yeah another criticality video!! Vids like these are how I got into your channel. They’re always very interesting! So are many more of your videos, John.
Maybe you could cover work place accidents that led to all of us having to sit through those safety videos on how not to get crushed and eaten by big machines
Not a bad shout!! thank you
I would add Time Pressure--having been a Friday and the desire to get off work at a reasonable hour.
Will have to watch in peace later. Looking forward to it.
Also, whew, looks like last week's vid with no BG music was an outlier.
Greetings from sunny Hamburg and have a great weekend, John and everyone!
I know I shouldn’t feel good about these events as the resulting outcomes are always very bad.
But you present them in such an educational way I cannot help but be informed and feel good.
Oh, John, why are you so good at what you do?
every time plainly uploads something nuclear related i instantly click
Do the WIPP, c"mon. It is an interesting "disaster" if not as deadly as others! Truck fire, high level waste packed in Swheat kitty litter, contaminated vents, salt creep!!
Like this comment for a vid on WIPP
You could give half a stamp on the bingo card to 'shift change' & 'fatigue'. It doesn't seem like it exactly fits those categories but Friday afternoons have predictable effects similar to both.
Rated for 1/10 of a Watt. Generated approximately 300MW.
(Granted, it only generated 300MW for approximately .03 seconds, so about 3KWh. In all, it produced the energy it takes to run a typical space heater for two hours.)
The square analogy makes sense in that context if you consider - over time, the square's corners slowly get rounded. It still thinks it's a square. But it's now much easier to roll like a wheel. The square is incapable of realizing it's not as sharp as it used to be. It's lost its edge. It's a light push away from rolling off the table to its demise.
A square peg should not fit in a round hole, but a rounded square begins to slip through the crack. Rounded corners might get it sued by Apple. It's a liability for a square to have rounded corners. And it happens like a frog in slowly heated water. In the case of the video, flash boiled water.
Please cover the Godiva devices. My understanding is these were a series of mechanical Contraptions used for criticality experiments. Basically a machine to take the place of a screwdriver and two beryllium spheres. I know there were several incidences with that led to criticality accidents and the destruction of Machinery but thankfully I don't think any people were killed. I'd love to know more about this and it would make great material for a video
Not a little weird seeing this open with the toxicology report from the Schoharie limo crash.
Putting this in perspective and since my parents were born 03/04/1970(father) and 09/04/1974(mother) they were 13 and 9 respectively when this occurred. Just wanted to provide some perspective for people unaware of how semi-recent this incident is in the scope of things
You should have a look at the St Laurent NPP in France, it had 2 partial meltdown in graphite-gas natural uranium reactors !
Bingo! I would add time pressure, because he didn't want to take the time to empty the water.
Thank you for all the videos!
Speaking of the rounded off corners analogy, If you aren't familiar with Dr Reason's Swiss Cheese Model check it out
I think I heard someone describe this the other day. Like not even a week ago. I'm gonna go look it up to see if that's what it was.
I love all of your reactor videos!
Another great video... clear and concise as usual. Those goats are so cute.
your nuclear disaster videos are my favorite, please make the one about germany you mentioned
For the Bingo Card, I think Time Pressure might be related as well. Doing the reconfiguration on Friday so they could hit the floor running for Monday suggests that they were more motivated by getting it done on time than done right.
Failed shortcuts and criticality accidents go hand in hand.
Nitpick about the bingo card - “time pressure” should have been marked.
Had no idea Argentina did that kind of thing.
I’m Argentinian and interested in this subject, didn’t know about the accident and can confirm this is not widely known still. 😮 Thanks for the video!
The human factors in so many accidents are basically a tick list as they’re so common and ubiquitous.
Not a traditional disaster but you could make a video about the nuclear kitten incursion at San Onofre nuclear plant (near San Diego, CA).
Yes, cover the German incident. Love the binger card and also the square analogy is a very simple description of what can and does happen in many types of human error incidents and accidents, and I am going to borrow it for my chit-chats with friends.
Getting back to the classics.
I would be stoked to see the "Gundremmingen Block A" incident covered in your unique style. Though as far as I'm aware not actually a meltdown, it was a pretty serious leak of radiation.
I'm Argentine, and I've never heard of this event. Thank you!