Thank you. ️😊 For this beautiful video. I have done family history my husband side and I do have same map of Layland . He's family come bit further up the map just behind St James Hospital, called Mushroom Street and Cambridge Street. Layland and Mabgate areas was Jews and other people come to live there in 1860 or even earlier time. Four generations in Mabgate and Sheepscar my husband family history side. Also thank you for showing history of Quarry hill area and where the play house is, there is cemetery underneath and I remember there use to be a little church there. Keep doing good work 😉🌸❤️ from Leeds
Hello there sir! I wonder if you could do a similar piece about Harehills Primary School, (there is a school currently with the same name) I believe it closed as a school in '86, think it was on Roundhay Road- It was my Primary school but my family moved us to the Midlands, but a big part of my heart will remain in Leeds.
Leeds City Council are never so happy as when they are knocking down some historic building and farming out the redevelopment contracts to their friends. Look at City Square. I've lost track of how many times it has been redeveloped since I arrived in Leeds nearly fifty years ago.
Very interesting to see how Leeds changed so much.... Even though these houses were called slums people were quite happy to live amongst good neighbours....
@@GeogJuice yes they were different, nobody really knew they were poor because all were poor!! Ha. So good to look back on those days..... Thank you....
It is inconceivable that the posters you point out would be in Hebrew. To use the sacred language for a poster on a wall would have been an outrage! This was before the development of "modern" Hebrew (a secular language) had spread beyond Ottoman Palestine and it was still a work in progress even there. Hebrew would be studied, as you point out, through probably only by boys, and the most religious would pursue their studies well into adulthood. Hebrew was important in order to read the Torah or Talmud, but it was absolutely not a language of everyday life, let alone a poster on a wall. The posters would undoubtedly have been in Yiddish, which is a patois of German and several Slavic languages. It uses the Hebrew script but is no more Hebrew than Gaelic is Italian because it uses the same script. Due to where most of those who arrived in Leeds came from, their Yiddish was the more Russian-inflected form rather than those more influenced by Lithuanian, Polish or German, though the grammar was - and still is - predominately German, whatever the accent or regional turns of phrase.
I’ve followed the beck underground from the primrose pub on Meanwood road right up to the edge of the river opposite the armouries, up till mabgate is so slippy we found it less hazardous walking in the beck, the last km underground is the worst tho with the culvert roof getting lower all the time, got some great photos tho
My late father was a pupil art Darley Street school from about 1927 to 1935 so thank you for showing the photo in the video. I believe the school building which is shown was Gower Street school and now is/was a Chinese restaurant.
Hi there - have you done a video on Vicar Lane itself? - I have ancestors who ran a pub called "The Spotted Cow" on vicar Lane in the mid 1800's - any information on this please?
@@GeogJuice Thank you - my ancestor who was the landlord until 1855 was George Thwaites and then his wife, Isabella Thwaites (Nee Mountain) from 1856. Look forward to hearing from you. Jeff
Where do you get your maps from? At present I have had to fall back on the National Library of Scotland maps, but they do not have street names. I used to use Archi UK, but that became a subscription site. I note that your map (2:47) has Charles Street named, which follows on from Lady Lane. That was where my Irish-derived Great Grandfather Thomas lived in late 19C. 6:15 shows basement windows, with grates set into the footway to improve lighting. I remember when, instead of grates, glass blocks were inset inset in footways to provide light to basement rooms. I have memories of visiting a couple of maiden great-aunts who had a draper's shop in Holbeck, and they lived in the basement flat with footway glass-block lights. There was no electricity but, in a nod to modernity, gas lights illuminated the cluttered sitting room, with the obligatory aspidistra in the corner, flanked by glass-domed ornaments.
Great memories once again! Thank you. The houses in the streets in Armley had grates to let in the light to the cellars too. Leeds library have an excellent collection of local maps.
I've just come across your content. Great work, keep it up. I'd like to hear about Lydgate that once stood where St. John's centre is now. If you've already done a video about that please put me in the right direction. Thanks.
Hi Jeff, I don't believe so. It was apparently Heaton's Factory at first and the name Crispin House came later. It is on New York Road, which is on part of what was originally Hope Street. Also built over Copenhagen Street and joining up to Trafalgar Street.
Hi Jeff, Crispin Street was near to the Marsh Lane railway station on the edge of an area of Leeds called The Bank. The Railway pub was nearby. On a current map it was between Saxton Lane, Railway Street and Flax Place.
Thank you. ️😊 For this beautiful video. I have done family history my husband side and I do have same map of Layland . He's family come bit further up the map just behind St James Hospital, called Mushroom Street and Cambridge Street. Layland and Mabgate areas was Jews and other people come to live there in 1860 or even earlier time. Four generations in Mabgate and Sheepscar my husband family history side. Also thank you for showing history of Quarry hill area and where the play house is, there is cemetery underneath and I remember there use to be a little church there. Keep doing good work 😉🌸❤️ from Leeds
Thank you for your kind words and sharing your story
Hello there sir! I wonder if you could do a similar piece about Harehills Primary School, (there is a school currently with the same name) I believe it closed as a school in '86, think it was on Roundhay Road- It was my Primary school but my family moved us to the Midlands, but a big part of my heart will remain in Leeds.
Sadly, the school you're talking about was knocked down quite a few years ago...but there is a new school close by that has retained the name.
Thank you, never knew all that had gone on under where I’ve parked my car for 30 years!
Vert interesting slice of Leeds history. And close to where I live too!
Leeds City Council are never so happy as when they are knocking down some historic building and farming out the redevelopment contracts to their friends. Look at City Square. I've lost track of how many times it has been redeveloped since I arrived in Leeds nearly fifty years ago.
And by the looks of the Council's new proposal's, it's going to be changed again after all the work that has been done already.
Very interesting to see how Leeds changed so much.... Even though these houses were called slums people were quite happy to live amongst good neighbours....
You are absolutely correct Maureen. Slum is the word planners used, but I don’t like using it. The quality of the houses varied greatly though.
@@GeogJuice yes they were different, nobody really knew they were poor because all were poor!! Ha. So good to look back on those days..... Thank you....
It is inconceivable that the posters you point out would be in Hebrew. To use the sacred language for a poster on a wall would have been an outrage! This was before the development of "modern" Hebrew (a secular language) had spread beyond Ottoman Palestine and it was still a work in progress even there. Hebrew would be studied, as you point out, through probably only by boys, and the most religious would pursue their studies well into adulthood. Hebrew was important in order to read the Torah or Talmud, but it was absolutely not a language of everyday life, let alone a poster on a wall.
The posters would undoubtedly have been in Yiddish, which is a patois of German and several Slavic languages. It uses the Hebrew script but is no more Hebrew than Gaelic is Italian because it uses the same script. Due to where most of those who arrived in Leeds came from, their Yiddish was the more Russian-inflected form rather than those more influenced by Lithuanian, Polish or German, though the grammar was - and still is - predominately German, whatever the accent or regional turns of phrase.
Thanks for adding that detail Martin. Your advice here is much appreciated.
VERY GOOD LEEDS HISTORY LOVE IT
The old views are much better than the dreary vistas of today.
Very interesting thanks so much for posting
I’ve followed the beck underground from the primrose pub on Meanwood road right up to the edge of the river opposite the armouries, up till mabgate is so slippy we found it less hazardous walking in the beck, the last km underground is the worst tho with the culvert roof getting lower all the time, got some great photos tho
Rather you than me, but I bet it was a brilliant experience! Did you walk all the way back or did you manage to get out without having to do that?
My late father was a pupil art Darley Street school from about 1927 to 1935 so thank you for showing the photo in the video. I believe the school building which is shown was Gower Street school and now is/was a Chinese restaurant.
You are correct Philip, the school shown is on Gower Street and is one of the few buildings remaining from the past. Thank you for commenting.
Hi there - have you done a video on Vicar Lane itself? - I have ancestors who ran a pub called "The Spotted Cow" on vicar Lane in the mid 1800's - any information on this please?
Hi Jeff, Vicar Lane is a future video. I will keep the Spotted Cow in mind and get back to you.
@@GeogJuice Thank you - my ancestor who was the landlord until 1855 was George Thwaites and then his wife, Isabella Thwaites (Nee Mountain) from 1856. Look forward to hearing from you. Jeff
Where do you get your maps from?
At present I have had to fall back on the National Library of Scotland maps, but they do not have street names. I used to use Archi UK, but that became a subscription site.
I note that your map (2:47) has Charles Street named, which follows on from Lady Lane. That was where my Irish-derived Great Grandfather Thomas lived in late 19C.
6:15 shows basement windows, with grates set into the footway to improve lighting. I remember when, instead of grates, glass blocks were inset inset in footways to provide light to basement rooms. I have memories of visiting a couple of maiden great-aunts who had a draper's shop in Holbeck, and they lived in the basement flat with footway glass-block lights. There was no electricity but, in a nod to modernity, gas lights illuminated the cluttered sitting room, with the obligatory aspidistra in the corner, flanked by glass-domed ornaments.
Great memories once again! Thank you.
The houses in the streets in Armley had grates to let in the light to the cellars too.
Leeds library have an excellent collection of local maps.
I've just come across your content. Great work, keep it up. I'd like to hear about Lydgate that once stood where St. John's centre is now. If you've already done a video about that please put me in the right direction. Thanks.
Thanks for commenting Danny. The nearest video to there at the moment is the New Briggate one. Thanks for the suggestion. I will add it to my list.
Is Crispin house built on what used to be Crispin Street?
Hi Jeff, I don't believe so. It was apparently Heaton's Factory at first and the name Crispin House came later. It is on New York Road, which is on part of what was originally Hope Street. Also built over Copenhagen Street and joining up to Trafalgar Street.
@@GeogJuice Thank you - do you have any info on Crispin Street itself please?
Hi Jeff, Crispin Street was near to the Marsh Lane railway station on the edge of an area of Leeds called The Bank. The Railway pub was nearby. On a current map it was between Saxton Lane, Railway Street and Flax Place.
@@GeogJuice Thanks for that.
Lovely bit of Leeds history.
Thank you David