IRISH CATHOLICS ARE WAKING UP! Douglas Murray & Matt Dillahunty
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Your position and worldview is enmeshed with the worst of this problem and helps exacerbate it, and is plagued by these issues, especially with grooming and the Dillamonkey to Bill Nye espousing of the woke narrative. You ought to have them wake up to secular involvement in the churches: from Operation Gladio infiltrating the Catholic Church through sexual blackmail pushing both liberation theology and facism in the Ukraine ratlines to drug wars in a managed dialectic to the globalist pope today and yesterday's "trad" pope writing The Dialectics of Secularization with Jurgen Habermas. Left wing Paul Williams has written a heavily sourced academic text on it as has trad Catholic David Wemhof trying to clean his own house and neocon cold warrior Daniele Ganser in NATO's Secret Armies Operation GLADIO and Terrorism in Western Europe, which is a book used by geopolitical majors who want to be Henry Kissinger/Klaus Schwab Junior.
The paper Blowback of The Gods by James Wallace details the secular CIA and media boosting of Billy Graham to support the installation of Israel and cold war policy in Vietnam. This same Vatican model and blackmail was also used in Iran with the Epstien/Jimmy Saville playbook that infests our secular government and a large body of new atheists Pinker, Dennet, Hawkings, Kraus, Edge Foundation. It is quite clear in Prince/King Charles Temenos Academy, the CIA pumping New Age, the theosophy and Luciferianism at the UN etc.
The Divinity Schools in America were also heavily infiltrated by the state and funding from people such as the Rockefeller's who explicitly write in their books and autobiographies that they did this for internationalism, Edith Rockefeller's radical feminist Jungianism (while Jung worked with Allan Dulles), to Time Life and the Luce Foudation as well as the Jesuit school pushing secular theology and wokism from Fordham as the pope is a globalist pope.
You can see the rampant grooming, secular calls to violate family rights over "gender affirming care", what goes down all pride month that Dillahuntey champions, Dave Rubin Surrogacy that will statistically lead to more of these problems, Richard Dawkins giving evolutionary sanction to the ancient aliens mythology and "mild c3pdflia."
This doesn't even get into how this plays out in geopolitics and warfare with Cold War involvement in religion, the mass migrant crisis' it creates while Fabian socialists who favor Islam to break down Christianity have had in their writings and policies put in play the source of Islam spreading through Europe, in tandem with the Theosophical Sufism that founded the UN. This is in a SEMI managed strategy of tension with the support of Israel playing into conflicts over oil while pumping the Muslim Brotherhood, ISIS, Sadaam, The Taliban, HAMAS, and Hezbollah for asymmetrical warfare. This also has to do with the critical work of Anthony Sutton as well as CFR archivist Carol Quigley who from opposing positions document the exporting of communism to Russia and funding of Lenin and Trotsky as well as Hitler prior to his nationalizing the banks and turning on the West.
This involves secular interference with the Orthodox Church as well through Constantinople and is a part of this war in Ukraine, as is the need to protect the elites and secular religion of the Great Reset from populism and continued access to energy and trade from Russia. This is why Zelensky, who legalized pron as his country crumbles in keeping with the case E Michael Jones documents of Americanist exportation of degeneracy as a weapon, has had a false Western church sown in Ukraine that will end in the same place as the Vatican and Church of England.
As atheist materialism dead ends and you fail to make churches and build communities your people will feed into these captured churches as a social club. Your ideas are pumped, blackmailed and funded by men with Babylonian Temple blackmail islands, DIAMAT quantum mystics at Darpa and have employed and worked with people like Michael Aqeeno, Dr. Lilly, L Ron Hubbard, Jim Jones, Jack Parsons, Bertrand Russel, H.P. Blavatsky, Annie Bousant, Arthur C Clark, Albert Pike, HG Wells, CG Jung, and Aliester Crowley. You also are quite willing to set the world on fire and interfere in religions and morals the world over on a gambit that your religion of ending religion will bring world peace, as you plunge us into war and back the releasers of global bioweapons. This is the most glaring of contradictions and the gamble of madmen. If you ever were forced to engage these points outside controlled neocon opposition like Murray or New Age Peterson with any visibility your view would crumble just as it does on the philosophical and phenomenological fronts. Which is why it is heavily protected with your opponents curated. At some point when faced with this you must actively engage in dishonesty.
step 1- destroy everything
step 2- deconstruct
step 3 - Utopia
philosopher explains here about what is happening
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The Future is Roman Catholicism!
God Himself is present for us in His sacraments. Reality in all its splendor. Wondrous.
You must be bat shit crazy! The Irish people who have turned their backs on that evil cult are well shot of it. How anyone could continue to align themselves with that organisation after the abominable catalogue of abuse, cruelty and devastation is utterly mind boggling.
Actually in Orthodoxy, even Rome needs to submit to it.
I’ve gone back to my Catholic Church……all religions have corrupted the teaching of Jesus. We need to reclaim it.
Amen. I'm praying for good priest formation. The new seminarians i think are kind of there spiritually but lack a little intellectual rigor,.
"Religion that God our Father approves of is to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep yourself from being polluted by the world's corrupt ways."
May God help us cooperate with his wonderful wisdom to be those compassionate souls!
I went to a Catholic elementary school and I just consider myself just an average student. That education was the foundation and gave me the tools to go all the way to post-graduate studies at university.
Jesus’s teachings were largely based on ancient Egyptian and Greek philosophy. We don’t need religion to lead moral lives.
Me too
Common sense!!!! Without faith or a moral compass, one is lost.
Exactly. Our human "rights" came directly from Catholic canon law. THank God!
Love both of these men.
Really? I really didn't care for this Matt Dillahunty.
@@republitarian484nobody cares nerd.
Gay.
@@republitarian484he is actually gay. 🤣
@@republitarian484why? He's pretty good at humiliating theists
Five minutes in and I (6 years of doctoral studies) have no idea what this discussion is about. I converted to Catholicism 20 years ago and it saved my life. Alleluja.
As a 61 yr old irish woman. I was sent to a convent school & mass every aunday because my oarebt made these decisons for me, theres alot of hyoocrisy & deceit etc in the catholic church. Once i was an adult i stopped going to mass, i think being a christian has nothing to do with the church or mass, its about how you live your life everyday & how you treat your fellow human being, its about forgiveness, kindest & compassion ti your felliw humsn
I love and appreciate the wisdom and intellect of Douglas Murray…..never has the need for a man of such calibre been greater
If only we had government made up of such men .
Thank god for Douglas ❤
Talk a lot of sense sir,
Lots of love from Perth Scotland ✨🇬🇧
mat lives in some weird version of the 2000.. where is that? i want to move there.
Freemasonik is da sthn baptist church ..
Desperate people do desperate things
Follow Christ... not humans who lead the church.
If our technology is not in perfect balance with our creation any imperfections in our technology can eventually unbalance our own creation. Where do we find our perfect balance that brings us all together in peace? The light shines in the darkness but the darkness has not overcome it. My prayer is that the deeper reflections of the Bosom of Abraham will be revealed deeply within the Sacred Heart of the Virgin Mary. ❤ ❤ ❤
The Narrative: Meritocracy is the notion of a political system in which economic goods or political power are vested in individual people based on ability and talent. However, the Meritocracy has somehow become conflated with Plutocracy. The Roman Empire was considered a form of plutocracy in which a Senate consisting of the wealthy aristocracy had the power to elect local administration officials and propose new policies.
Plato regarded democracy as little more than mob rule by another name-perhaps without the violence, at least at first. The distributism model of G.K. Chesterton that awakens reciprocal financial benefits along ALL PEOPLE is the only authentic democracy:, American Indian, Asian, Australian, European, Indian, Melanesian, Micronesian & Polynesian.
Unlike socialism, which advocates state ownership of property and the means of production, distributism seeks to devolve or widely distribute that control to individuals (FAMILIES) within society, rejecting what it saw as the twin evils of plutocracy and bureaucracy.
Capitalism advocates 'corporate ownership' of property and the means of production - destroys families.
Socialism advocates 'state ownership' of property and the means of production - destroys families.
Distributism advocates 'family ownership' of property and the means of production - UNITES FAMILIES
If we read the parable of the sower in Matthew 13 we read that Jesus said a farmer went out to sow his seed. As he was scattering the seed, some fell along the path, and the birds came and ate it up - Anarchy.
Some fell on rocky places, where it did not have much soil. It sprang up quickly, because the soil was shallow. But when the sun came up, the plants were scorched, and they withered because they had no root - State Ownership.
Other seed fell among thorns, which grew up and choked the plants - Corporate Ownership.
Still other seed fell on good soil, where it produced a crop-a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown - Family Ownership.
Whoever has ears, let them hear.
Anarchism advocates ‘no ownership’ of property and the means of production.
Socialism advocates 'state ownership' of property and the means of production.
Capitalism advocates 'corporate ownership' of property and the means of production.
Distributism advocates 'family ownership' of property and the means of production.
“The family that prays together stays together.” - Father Peyton - The Rosary Priest
All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had. With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need. -- Acts 4:32-35
Irish people waking up ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 thats funny
Matt Dillahuntys wife. 😂😂😂
Lol
I don’t understand why anyone would think that religious people are more morally upright. Church leaders know their religious books better than anyone, they pray for everyone everyday. They attend church meetings. Yet there are thousands of religious leaders charged with indecent behavior, usually involving innocent young people.
Atheists may be charged with crimes as well, but they’re not claiming that everyone should be an atheist because you’re a more decent human being.
Plenty of atheists claim that they are better people, where have you been? Plenty of them are egomaniacs who think the only reason they aren't religious is because they are somehow smarter and better than those who are. Meanwhile, atheistic communist regimes were responsible for the most mass murder in the 20th century and heathen religions,which are bereft of the knowledge of God and worship demons instead, often hinged on mass murder in the form of large-scale human sacrifice. So much for being better than Christians.
I'm surprised Douglas Murray is being so kind to dunderhead Dillahunty whose views are so parochial.
Religion is almost dead.
Then why are so many people killing in the name of it?
@@neal.karn-jonesnoone have killed more people that ateists. The ateist marxist killed more people than every religious war in history combined, in just a decade..
@@neal.karn-jonesshhh!!! 🤫 let them cook.
@@neal.karn-jonesIslam is a cult, an ideology, a mandate.
More religious people are alive now than any other time in history. Your statement is objectively incorrect.
Kids growing up with no moral code is a didaster
Saint Patrick pray for Ireland! Salve María
What would St. Patrick think of modern Roman Catholicism? Would St. Patrick be in Communion with the Roman Catholic Church of Ireland of our day?
@@adolphCat I think he would say… “Christ Beside Me
Christ Before Me
Christ Behind Me
Christ Within Me
Christ Beneath Me
Christ Above Me”
@@craiglist483 You are correct in what you say as for all serious Christians, Christ is the Center. However, this does answer my question concerning the relation between St. Patrick and the modern Roman Catholic Church.
Would Irish Christianity do better if the Irish people would stamp out Roman Catholicism and adapt a different National Church more in tune with the Ancient Christian Faith of Historical Irish Church. St. Patrick pray for Ireland!
Yes.@@adolphCat
@@adolphCat The fact that the Marxist named "Sexual Revolution" with mass media, overwhelmed the church to the same degree as the rest of the west is indeed tragic. But that doesn't mean Christ ran away from the sacraments He gives to us.
The church is administered by humans, subject to all the fobiles of all humanity. I go to church to worship the Lord not my priest.
I’m Irish and from a young age I turned away from my faith and embraced alcohol, drugs, sex, pornography etc. I was miserable and spiritually dead inside as I suspect these 2 “experts” are too.
4 years ago I made my first confession in over 30 years. I’m now a slave to Jesus Christ and an ardent devout Catholic and I’ve never known true happiness and contentment until now.
Blessed be God forever. St Joseph. Pray for us.
good for you but that doesn't make your case for God one bit true
@@patman142If God doesn’t exist then why is the human brain hardwired to seek Him out? There is evidence for “God spots” in the human brain. I wonder why they are there?
@@blupandax7902Because humans think they are special above all the animal kingdom even though we share 98% of our DNA with chimpanzees. There is evidence for God spots? What? Could you please elaborate?
@@patman142 all I know pat, is I was blind and now I can see. I’m not trying to prove anything. I’m just defending my faith from these “experts” who think they have it all figured out. Trust me, they don’t.
@@GringoXavier no-one has it all figured out, I don't think we ever will
Pray the rosary!
Irish gave up their land, faith, woman, children, and culture. Heartbreaking to see them just giving it all up. I would have like to have visit before its bred out.
💯👏👏👏💚🇨🇮🇨🇮🇨🇮 the foreigners are a priority in the UK and Ireland thanks to those in power being of their persuasion. They all need to go!
Fortunately they are landing back in the church. It’s home🙏
Yes, but treating many teachings as optional.
The levels of suicide in Ireland in the past 20 years, especially among the young, may indicate that without Faith it is hard to hold on to hope. It’s tragic really.
No it isn’t. I’ve been an atheist for 20 years, you don’t need supernaturalism and archaic superstition to have hope.
@@Gatheist I don't think he said that incoherent atheism always results in suicide. Atheism really is so dumb though.
@@Gatheist hope for what? You'll be dead in less than 100 years and everything you care about will have vanished not long after that. It will be as if you had never existed. Even if you believe in a cause, whatever it achieves will be undone by the next swing of the pendulum.
The humanist understanding of human rights and human dignity are borrowed from a religious metaphysical framework and grafted on to a secular worldview where they have no business being. A stark look at reality will show that without God, you're are of no more importance than an amoeba. All you can hope for is enough local meaning to get you through your 70 or 80 year life span, which is like a tweaker shooting up for one last hit before the great heave ho. Without God, reality is ultimately bleak.
@@Gatheist do you speak for all atheists? No! Badly educated atheists can not reason at all. Every individual thinks by their own experiences and values inter alia. When we talk of christian HOPE it is not the meaning of the english word hope. A child has christian hope when they open their advent calendar each dad until the 25th. A day represents a special event. Christian hope is the ‘return of the king. ‘
What do you hope for?@@Gatheist
It's interesting that they're focused on sinners instead of the Biblical standard. Do we curse beethoven when badly played on the piano. This circular argument is no longer sophisticated enough, friends!
Yes, I thought this was an old video 😂😂😂😂
What we have to remember is not the bad things the Catholic Church did but remember Jesus of Nazareth. Abide by his wonderful teachings and promises to us. THAT'S what's important. Far too many people just dismiss Jesus because of what happened in the Church. What they did is the total opposite to Christ's teachings. I give thanks for my strong Faith and it is such a comfort in these very difficult times. Greetings from Ireland. 👍🇮🇪
You have to remember the only reason we even heard of Jesus was because of the churches, spreading the word and their Bibles, and even though Jesus is portrayed as mostly good but not completely, overall the Bible is is basically horrendous and immoral,
You sound like a type of intrinsically good person who doesn’t need a book of myths to lead an exemplary life. I’m from Ireland too. I taught religion for decades before becoming an atheist. I didn’t lose anything. I gained a wonderful sense of freedom and lead as good a life as I ever did.
Yes, we should remember every terrible disgusting thing the church has done and make sure it is never forgotten.
Jesus Christ had nothing to do with what happened within the Catholic Church - adult, human beings committed those horrendous crimes against innocent, trusting children (and unwed, pregnant girls/women...).
And, it's vital to never forget what happened, in order for it to not ever be repeated again.
It's only when you know about and understand your past that you're able to steer your present in the right direction - and end up with a better future.
Correct
My heart is filled with joy to see here in the comment of such sad video, beautiful stories of conversion! Deo Gratias! 🥰🙏💕
Wokeness is just the Wolves' new clothing within the Church.
Clerics who abuse children are abhorrent… So are teachers, doctors, lawyers, and housewives…
AND, If you don’t have faith, what do you have… materialism? How many people in our world have found materialist success and yet are still empty, or worse?
Abuse by recent studies. Catholic. 1.25, Protestant 2.75, Public schools... 8, private e.g. doctors, professionals... 10. Let's all stop lying about Catholicism.
As an Irishman, I can tell you that Ireland is in a terrible state today because the majority no longer practice the Catholic faith. The baby was thrown out with the bath water. Pain, suffering and even death were common place for the same faith which was loved by so many throughout the centuries. This is central to our history, but sadly people have forgotten.
The people rightly objected to the scandals but the throwing entirely away of catholicism is catastrophic. They think it's freeing and what it really does is erase the entirety of Irish history which is so richly catholic
Well said. St. Patrick pray for Ireland
The preamble to the Irish constitution is a beautiful Christian document. The beauty of Ireland is largely from the Catholic faith. Please God make Ireland Catholic again.
Irish people are great. They don't need to believe in fairytales or worship men in goofy costumes to still have a great culture.
You don't need to wear a uniform to have honor.
@@stevenjackson5213 Every culture is largely built upon religion. The vast majority of customs and holidays derive from religion. We have yet to see a truly post Christian society. When we do, we may well regret the treasures lost.
Douglas was and still is 20 years out of date on this. When he visited here in 2000, the power and influence of the Catholic Church in Ireland was already well gone. It has spent the past 20 years thoroughly purging itself of those crimes, as anyone who looks honestly can see. What some Irish Catholics are 'waking up' to at the moment is that aggressive secularism doesn't answer many of the deep questions of the human heart that Catholic faith used to. Irish elite culture having gone "full Canada" now finds itself in a confusing void. The only answer the political, academic and media elites have come up with to this problem so far is to double down on aggressive secularism. But yes, some Irish Catholics are waking up....
No doubt the sudden exit from faith leaves a gap, I just hope people don't run back to it because they're scared. No doubt modern culture could take much of value from the moral beliefs of our religious past, but going back to it wholesale isn't the answer, it was dropped for good reasons. We need to carefully think about what we believe and why.
@@onehairybuddhaIt was dropped because people foolishly rebelled against God instead of the evil men who committed those crimes. Israel made similar choices over and over again. Many atheists point to the book of Judges as an example of barbarism and immorality in the Bible. They fail to read the last line of the book "In those days there was no king in Israel: but every one did that which seemed right to himself."
That's exactly what most secular people advocate now. Everyone just do what seems subjectively right to them. It'll all work out. Folly.
@@j.knight9335It was dropped because it was a backwards rationalisation of what seemed to work best over time that, while more or less functional day to day, like the vast majority of traditional modes of life the world over Christian and otherwise, it's ultimately fantasy.
I like Lord of the Rings as much as the next man, but taking it as literal truth would be a step too far, and that's what believers do.
As you say though, it'll all work out, one way or the other. Natural selection, the sorting out what works from what don't.
@@onehairybuddhaYou've chosen to reject God as fantasy. Not everyone else has. Tolkien certainly didn't. I have to say that he would denounce you as a someone who was complicit in the degeneration of society.
Also, comparing Scripture to Lord of the Rings is a massive category error. To compare a collection of works that claim to be inspired by God written over thousands of years by many authors, and a contemporary novel is just silly.
@@j.knight9335 LoTR was an example. Pick any epic fantasy you like. Tolkien was no doubt a smart chap, but he was just a man, as the biblical authors were just men.
I'm sure you give other religion's scriptures no special mind, but others hold them as dear as you do yours, and they too can claim to have produced functional societies. The point is not to get carried away thinking that yours are special.
The Bible is a part of the evolution of our culture, worthy of study, but not to be over emphasised or elevated above the Western canon in general.
Ave Ave Christus Rex
Ireland has thrown out the baby with the bath water. This people rejected God because those who took on the responsibility for teaching the Gospel allowed evil and corruption to flourish. But the individual is responsible for his and her relationship with the Creator and the Saviour. Religious structures are man made but the Gospel and salvation is a free gift from God
The problem is that the fact that pedophiles exist in the church is not a criticism of the church so much as it is an illustration of human nature and the desire to hide our improprieties with subterfuge. As religion has become less popular, you had the rise of secular public schools and if you want to look up the amount of sexual abuse that goes on in those places I'll give you a moment. But my only question is do you believe that public schools produce pedophiles in the same way that the Catholic church does? Because based on statistics and your current logic you would have to say yes.
A certain “peaceful” religion produces astronomically more pedos than Catholicism, because it’s completely allowed by their ideology, due to how its founder practiced it. And that practice is actually defended by the striking majority of that religion’s members, meanwhile, most Catholics are completely opposed to that practice. So the fact that the likes of you are opposed to this already shows that your religion is a not the most predatory out there.
A certain “peaceful” religion produces astronomically more pedos than Catholicism, because it’s completely allowed by their ideology, due to how its founder practiced it. And that practice is actually defended by the striking majority of that religion’s members, meanwhile, most Catholics are completely opposed to that practice. So the fact that the likes of you are opposed to this already shows that your religion is a not the most predatory out there.
The "Sexual Revolution" of the NeoMarxist Marcuse who named it. The church was open to people with homosexual tendencies. 81% of the abuse was against teenagers and young men by homosexuals. The church in the US is the safest place on earth for a kid today. Independently audited. THe leftist press (I'm a liberal) only talks about this. but they tell a far worse lie about human nature and sexuality. Nobody is born that way as the Ganna data proves.
The church covered it up the church is in direct line with child abuse because they put the priests knowing they are pedophiles into a position of authority in vunrable poor areas , schools, boys and girls homes the church never took responsibility for any of this I remember the letter from the pope and it was no where near good enough
Ireland for the Irish.
Oh Yes, Ireland is doing very well as a growing secular socialist country......as its culture is getting stripped away piece by piece.... You can hardly find anyone who speaks the Irish language anymore.... and the mass (in many cases illegal) immigration from the Arab speaking world means Islam is becoming the dominant faith along with the new atheism. Not to mention, LGBTXYZ is thriving and that's just lovely isn't it? Bring back the Catholic Faith and the Churches any day!!!! Douglas Murray doesn't care though....he's doing well financially from pushing this anti-christian nonsense.
You are conflating many different things. Murray is about as anti-Islamic as you can get. 'New athiesm'? What even is that? Athiesm is simply a lack of a belief in a God, it's not aligned to any other philosophy or agenda as some would make out.
"New Atheism" although not new at all is a socialist movement (one of many out there) that is a concerted attack on religion; specifically Christianity....maybe you have not been paying attention over the last few decades sir! Just because Socialism has many heads like a hydra and Murray detests LGBTXYZ and others, do not think for one minute that his tactics are not very aligned with a Socialist agenda to destroy faith a God and put faith in Man only......Communism and Nazism repackaged for the 21 Century, but now managed by technocrats instead...Clearly you must know that these individuals who speak ever so eloquently and self-righteously do not really care about your rights sir!! Only Jesus Christ does.@142
"New Atheism" although not new at all is a socialist movement (one of many out there) that is a concerted attack on religion; specifically Christianity....maybe you have not been paying attention over the last few decades sir! Just because Socialism has many heads like a hydra and Murray detests Wokeism, do not think for one minute that his tactics are not very aligned with a Socialist agenda to destroy faith a God and put faith in Man only......Communism and Nazism repackaged for the 21 Century, but now managed by technocrats instead...Clearly you must know that these individuals who speak ever so eloquently and self-righteously do not really care about your rights sir!! Only Jesus Christ does@@patman142
New Atheism is an actual modern movement
@@deaglanuafhlaithbheartaigh8241 old new, whatever, it's still a lack of belief in anything supernatural
Father Flanagan told Ireland to close the industrial schools in the 1940s. He was all but run out of Ireland for his stand. The house he was born in was burned to the ground. The industrial schools and Magdalin laundries are a responsibility of all of the Irish Republic, the Church was the agent of the state. Scapegoating is an all too human response to guilt.
Irish paren "put" unwed pregnant children into these homes to "have" their child BUT THERE WAS PARENTS WHO NEVER BOTHERED TO SIGN THEIR CHILD OUT.
Collective guilt.. not just the church AND NOW THE TRANS ACTIVISTS DESTROYING THE LATEST GENERATION OF CHILDREN AND WE STAND BY
I just saw a TV documentary about the RC church in medieval times. It said the population was afflicted with chronic bone disease. In the case of the ordinary people the cause was poor diet. In the case of the clergy, too rich a diet, too much poultry and wine.
@@leonardgibney2997 was that on CNN?
So true and the elites walked away Scot free.
Once Ireland wakes up....the whole world will follow ❤
Cheers and beers for Irish people 🍺
Yes we are and we are practicing restraint..alas our kindness is perceived as weakness..that is a big mistake .
They’re just swapping it out for other religions.
More intolerant and opressive ones, at that.
The people of Ireland need to vote the Irish Freedom Party. That’s the only way they will save their country.
The Irish need to do whatever they decide to do. They don't need to do anything that a non-Irish dip-shyte thinks.
Roger Scruton would be dismayed hearing Murray say this.
I am in my 80’s.was an ardent R.C.until 40 years old was directed to read the words of Jesus.the gospels then the whole Bible which I read through with my spouse every year… we have a peaceful life knowing we will be with our Saviour one day because He has paid the price for my sins and am redeemed from hell because of Jesus and not by my good works.Religion is not the answer but relationship with Jesus.
No good Lutheran Christian, which is to say one who actually read Luther, would agree with you.
would agree with you. You are more like Carlstadt whom he expelled.
💯, it's relationship with our Jesus savier ❤
How is that working for you?
As you sow, so will you reap!
This is what happens if you remove God, Good News, Prayers, Eucharist, Family values from families and institutions. The devil enters 7 folds and destroy your peace and prosperity. Repent and come back and spread the Gospel.
Murray's portrayl of Ireland pre 2000 is a gross exaggertion. I never felt oppressed by the Catholic church and could always live my life the way i wanted to.
I find any movement towards a position of mandating individual beliefs frankly terrifying. I'll change my view the day I am deified.
Nobody's mandating your beliefs. God's just pretty obvious , loves you and great music and sunsets so much He makes them. A good interview ua-cam.com/video/9FvYwpyFbIQ/v-deo.html
Whats up with the thumbnail? Are you accusing St John Paul of something????
Clerical abuse is still going on in American Catholic parishes today…it was in my parish in the 70’s and when I grew up I just found out this yr that it’d occurred in my current parish..
I can’t prove god exists but no atheist can prove god doesn’t exist, I’m not the most religious person but I still have faith, I’m still a catholic, I also believe in science so there’s a balance that can be struck, why does every atheist conflate religion with religious extremism/fanaticism, the person who first theorized an expanding universe and the Big Bang was a catholic priest, so it’s not one or the other, look at what’s going on in the world, I could argue a lot of these issues that people are so passionate about are at the point of extremism or fanaticism, is there any less violence or lunacy with so many secular people, no because it’s probably just filling the void where religion filled, so why are we pretending like the more secular we’ve become the better society is? There’s a lot of good that comes from religion, religion is the strongest factor related to charity and volunteer work, half of the most charitable organizations are faith based and almost a 3/4 of charitable giving is through faith based organizations, we don’t all have to be religious just like we don’t all have to be secular, but stop equating the worst parts of religion with the average person of faith, chances are they are trying, if not already doing more, to help better the world than you are
you just have to take one look at which countries are the most peaceful in the world, and they tend to be the least religious. And BTW, science is not a 'belief' system like religion and it's not up to an athiest to prove the existence of God, that is simply not possible. You make the claim so the onus of proof is on the theist
@@patman142 I know science isn’t a belief system, you know what I mean when I say that, it’s a study of everything using observation, experimentation, and testing theories against evidence, its knowledge, but a religious nut would say they don’t believe a science fact, and I acknowledge religious fanatics and violence they commit in its name, my problem is equating religion as a whole with religious extremes, it’s an over generalization and it’s intellectually lacy because you can do that for any group including atheists, and I didn’t ask you or anyone to prove god does or doesn’t exist, I simply stated the fact that it hasn’t been done and it can’t, I wouldn’t push religion on anyone so why would I need to prove god exists to anyone
@PatrickThomasBrady @PatrickThomasBrady I don't disagree with your central point about the extremes although I would argue that Islam is far more dangerous than any other religion. My main gripe is the indoctrination of children and the overreach of religion in people's lives that has only been overcome in the past 50 years
@@patman142 I completely agree on all 3 points, its getting harder to find someone willing to discuss anything in good faith these days, like I said I’m not the most religious person, when a really devout person starts talking religion I can’t listen, I just think we overlook its benefits especially when we don’t become dogmatic with it
"The secular community in the US."
That sounds so weird. In the UK those people are called... well, people. It's the religious that are the minority in the UK.
To Wolfways: Not for long. If current trends continue, the UK will be another Islamic state under sharia law before the end of the century.
Which is why the UK is in shambles
@@fyrdman2185 No, that's the fault of politicians.
@@Wolfways And politicians are allowed to do this because of the kind of degenerate people that the British have become with barely any unique culture left.
And look at the state of it.
Orthodoxy is the future 100%☦
The Pentecostals praise Jesus,it is my experience as a Catholic and Irish living in Ireland that Jesus hasn't changed .He is not confined by religion.Jesus said himself."Your Faith has made you whole ...free.He did not say ..."Your Religion has made you free.The more one rests into the Holy Presence and experience Supernatural Peace in Christ ,the more you will understand the beauty of Catholic Church.The Eucharist and the power of prayer.
We are all sinners,we all have come short of the Glory of God,The Holy Spirit is the same yesterday today and tomorrow.❤🙏🇮🇪
Religion is man attempting to reach out closer to God, Christianity is God attempting to reach out to mankind through His only Begotten Son Jesus the Bridge to God. You Pastor, Priest , Vicar can’t save or absolve you , only Jesus Saves.
Christ , the Alpha and the Omega is the perfect answer to how it is that we have a cosmos of finite things ordered towards meaning, purpose, love , justice and Personhood. The church is literally what sanity means.
“You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free, He Jesus is the Embodiment of all truth, no man can be our Gateway !
If Christ is the incarnate Son of God who lets humans know that we are not alone in our joys and griefs and pains then it’s tragic that the church lets Gods children down but its not surprisingly given that humans are involved. After all ,of his disciples who spent 3 years with him, one betrayed him, one denied him and the rest ran away.
And then they came back inspired in some way and helped create a great civilisation now in decline
Compared to this great story a few self important talking heads are just that
Truth faith in God isn’t what is found in Catholicism - it has paganism of the Roman and Greek pagan gods/rituals mixed in . Whatever they claim, the RC Church is NOT the church of the Apostles! Secular humanism is a DEAD END. Find a BIBLE BELIEVING, SPIRIT-FILLED church. Get back to the biblical roots, Jesus’s and the God-ordained biblical feasts!
Watch the movie Calvary.
Seen it good film
The devil has truly entered Ireland. Invited in.
Please don’t measure the Truth by corrupt and flawed people!
Look at yourselves and your own failings and ask if anyone should follow your ideas based on your conduct!
Get the plank out of your own eyes first, as Jesus taught
Read the Bible
Read the Gospels
Who is Jesus?
He is the only sinless man who ever lived
Look at yourself and say this Man is not the Living God come to earth to save us❤
Clerical abuse yes…and the Magdalene Laundries…and the Mother and Baby homes…and the symphisiotomies…and the mass baby graves…
Last census had people identifying as Catholic down to 63% from low-mid 90s just 2 decades ago and most of those just say it because they were baptised. Go to a church on a Sunday and they’re practically empty.
Churches are closing. 2 ppl enrolled in seminary last year.
Were they gay ?
Good! Religions are just man made agencies of social control. They are oppressive!
the catholic church in ireland is on its last legs at the moment. People still have faith sure, but the institution of the catholic church is dying, and its hard to see it surviving another 20 years. People arent joining the preisthood, convents are being given to the state to be reused for other purposes. The franciscan friary in my hometown closed down recently due to it basically being an old folks home by now and dioceses are losing bishops and have to be reshuffled due to such a low number of priests and most preists these days are 65+
This is due to a lot of issues. Clerical abuse scandals, such as christain brothers abusing young boys, that the church covered up, abuse of pregnant women , that the church covered up, the tuam mother baby homes is a massive stain on the institution, selling off other people children because they were had out of wedlock and so on. Its hard to have faith in the institution when its being so corrupt, but still sees itself as moral guardian, and protectors of the faith. And then they opposed every bit of social progress for the last hundred years. Contraceptives, divorce, gay marraige, abortion , and the abortion issue wreaked havoc on peoples lives for decades as well.
Its currently in a tailspin but has no way to pull out. I suppose its a case of power corrupts. They were given near unlimited power in the country for nearly 100 years and they abused it and now people dont see it as the force for good they claimed themselves to be
Another part of colonisation the Irish were Catholic we were poor no right to vote no land owning , education and so forth our community's our parents and grandparents were mentally, sexualy , physically abused by the Catholic Church again leaving British decendent land owners privileged elite Irish untouched by these atrocities
Jesus showed us there would always be Judas’s in His church. He called Judas, but by Judas’s own free will, he sold out on Jesus. Did the other apostles abandon the church because of that? No, in fact their faith was strengthened. “Where else shall we go? You have the words of Life”.
May I ask have you ever been to a traditional Catholic Mass. It may change your mind but maybe thats what you fear. I havd no idea what kind of nonsensical services you attend but there is no JESUS there. If you have studied the Bible you cannot mistake the reality of JESUS in the Catholic faith.
Waking up to what ???? that it's all a lie ?
They gave up on Christ and now welcome Muhammad.
Oh the luck of the Irish!!!
Catholic roots go very deep in Ireland. When times get bad, people will turn back to their Christian roots.
Pope Francis was among the first head of state to Congratulate Putin on his election. He is also a supporter of Hamas. This defines the Vatican politics
Its a shame Douglas and Hitchens never got to do a 2 against 2 debate against a couple of well known bible bashers .
Religion is indoctrination, spirituality and a faith in God is important.
Irish are staunch christains but now the church has to take a firm stand on faith as we get tranquility n clesn in mind .
Matt Dill aunty is being quite disingenuous here
New King James Bible
Specifuic devopments in Ireland. .... 1. A new group of schools not affiliated with religion. They teach moral reasoning and philosophy, Aristotle etc. Even middle school kids can talk intelligently about ethics (For US readers: all teachers in Ireland are paid by the govt even at religious affiliated schools and most schools are still religiously affiliated) ... 2. SOAR. A non-religious program working vwith teensm, in cooperation with schools, to discuss ethics but also issues of mental health and, personal identity, and healthy relationships, career planning.. .
So atheist believe in nothing, so if nothing is your ideology of God as in your terms, when you die you go to nothing, so in this thinking you go to the idea of your God.....Nothing? everyone's happy
I dont believe in atheism
I think many believe it will be just like how your life was prior to your birth.
We were nothing before we were born,and nothing after we die. I am an atheist and very happy. It shouldn't be up to a church to give you moral values, that is the job of parents. Bring your child up not to lie not to steal And "do unto others as they would like others to do unto them "result Happiness
I have a different view of the loss of Catholic faith in Ireland. Certainly, the sexual predations by priests and religious and the cover ups by Bishops was a major cause, the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. But these same crimes occurred in the "old days" as well. I know this from the personal testimony of victims. I knew of sisters who said the parish priest came to their house after their Mother had died, and took them into a room to by-the-way examine their bodies to ensure they were virgins. None of them renounced the faith or left the Church. They recognized that that there were some priests and even bishops who were bad and weak. I heard a saying in Ireland about such priests: "they were fulfilling their Mother's vocation". In other words, they really did not have a vocation at all, and perhaps had a worldly agenda they wanted to bring into the Church. Moreover, the formation of Catholics became very weak and naturally religious, meaning we prayed and performed devotions and made sacrifices to do our will and not God's will. Masses were really fast, to accommodate the "faithful's" desire to get on with their day. It wasn't uncommon to hear someone say they "got Mass", as if it was just an obligation they got out of the way, and not a life-giving sacrament. So, I think the root of the problem is a loss of faith, a crisis of faith, aided and abetted by too many clergy who had worldly formations which they passed on to the faithful, who had little to fall back on while facing the idols and temptations of the world. One final point. Most people who abandon of were never introduced to religion turn to paganism and "new religions" rather than becoming atheists, as we are all naturally religious. This is explained in a book called "Strange Rites: New Religions for a Godless World" by Tara Isabella Burton.
It wasn’t the Church that failed but those entrusted with its stewardship. These people were just evil… under Satan’s spell. They’ll be dealt with in due course. The underlying faith is directly from God. These two guys are just smug posers describing a new religion … without knowing that they are. Pray for these two.
This would be the first time Douglas Murray has shown he is capable of low resolution thinking. The way he gleefully makes remarks about priests being with rent boys is disingenuous. Considering there is a sizeable segment of his community that are all for boy love.............. yeah, not his best work.
Douglas always speaks the truth, do not try and justify the dirty priests. He has no community , he is part of the human race .
Douglas doesn't consider himself part of the alphabet community and the the feelings mutual
I'd parse through everything that's wrong with this, but it's not worth it. (Pedophiles are usually straight by the way)
@@sunnyboy6251stop it!! That dude’s gayer than a picnic basket.
Exactly. @@sunnyboy6251
As someone in Ireland, I couldn’t agree more with Douglas Murray. Thank you, as on many an occasion for the clarity of your views and their brave articulation Douglas. ♥️🙏🏽
Matt Dilahunty sides with men’s supremacy over women’s rights. He is totally captured. Would love to see these two debate trans ideology. And watch Douglas wipe the floor with Dilahunty.
Whether atheists want to believe it or not, democracy is not only built on Christian ideals , but depends on them. Man is endowed with his inalienable rights either by God or by man or, in other words, the state. If it’s by God then man cannot take those rights away, but if it’s by the state, then the state can do so whenever it pleases. Just as kings once claimed divine right came from God, we all claim the source of rights and freedoms come from God. It is no accident that western democracies are under assault from within along with the decline of Christianity and its influence.
People need Jesus Christ and a relationship with him. The Catholic Church is not the answer Jesus is.
You don't have to have a religion to be good. I'm an agnostic, I wouldn't dream of hurting anyone or an animal. Motto "do unto others what you would wish done to you" I can not believe in someone else's imaginary god in the sky.
Mr Murray, I am surprised at your lack of understanding of Ireland. I have much respect for you but stop trying to be an expert on everything. Atheists of the world unite we have been oppressed too long. What is the goal of the atheist activists……believe in me.
I have the secret knowledge that will set you free.
Utterly Gnostic gospel they preach.
I very much like Douglas Murray. Always have done. I love his enquiring mind.
It’s amazing how Judases can steal the Faith from people and they let them.. Faith must not have been that important to those that left.😢
It's Jesus's church. We need to stay with Jesus. Men make mistakes but we mustn't turn away from Jesus.
Let's all just get on. Stop critiquing each other. Freedom of speech for all.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING,SOME PEOPLE MAY STILL NOT WHAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH DID AS THE NORM.💚🥰
There are so few places where it is safe on socials to mention Catholicism without a tsunami of hate and violence threatened that its often prudent just to avoid it altogether.
Secular humanism? Dont make me laugh!😅
Douglas can see the sins of all people except israelis
A lot more peoplew wouldreturn to their Catholic churches if ... the condenation of sae sex love is dropped .. opposition to abortion is dropped ... wonen were to be ordained. Won't happen.
in Germany all of it is aloud in Evangelical Church, and peopel are leaving that Community to! Beliving and loving God is the reason to be in the Church!
You're right; it won't happen...and they wouldn't return either.
My parents were young adult immigrantsfrom Ireland to the USA NYC in the 1920s. Devout Catholics but ... Mother liked to say: "In ireland we did not go to the priests, we went around the priests. Stay away from priests. Be skeptical of anything they have to say." ... Father: Priest are wonderful people, wonderful, the best. Just one thing. Don't listen to them when they talk s
about politics or religion." ... I could give more quite from two uncles. The seeds of rejecting the nastiness of the Irish Catholic church were there long before recent times. We were sent to Catholic schools, which were were rather progressive for their times. But we were armed armed against having to agree with what "the church" had to say.
This conversation sounds like it happened 10+ years ago.
Because they are articulate!
Murray is usually quite up to speed, it's Dunderhead who hasn't updated.
Irish p Pro Islamics That's why they co me to thier warm arms