The Many SINS of the Undertale Community
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- Undertale is an amazing game with a commited fanbase- but maybe they're a bit too commited...
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Thank so much Patrick Bateman from hit movie American Psycho
no way Patrick Bateman from American psycho
Oh hell is that Patricia Masterbate M&M?!?!??!?!
Patrick Batman from British express?!
true.,
the moment you said PJ's daycare my neutral face instantly went to a frown
IKR that sh!t was MESSED UP
I'm so glad I never found it despite having been a total Undertale kid...
Still a fan, though. Every community has weirdos like these, ain't gonna let them destroy the experience for me.
holy words@@helion_ut
@@helion_utLucky bastard. Wish I could erase that shit from my brain. I've seen a ton of f'ed up stuff, from disgusting NSFW to horrendous NSFL and literal executions, but PJ's fucked me up the worst.
@@helion_utyeah thats why i swithced to earthbound :/
I remember watching pjs daycare dubs as a kid… god, it wasn’t even all that bad of a concept, the creator just HAD to add pedophilia…
Pjs daycare was pretty cringe tho
I used to watch it as a kid. What disgusted me right now is...I ENJOYED IT. I cant believe my past self...
Yeah, but let's not forget that a literal 4 year old tried to commit suicide, I mean that's also pretty messed up.
@@Lazyperson001 WHAT
@@GamingAllday-tm4ltHoney. You were A CHILD! You didn’t know any better. Don’t blame yourself. Blame the creator exposing kids to this stuff at a young age!
This is really good
I would like to say that many of the AUs also had tragic stories like the creators of Underswap and Underfell discontinuing the AUs, and Flowerfell receiving constant harassment for being "Frans" even though there is no frans and the whole point of the story is to be kind.
I hate the way any fanwork where characters interact will get misconstrued as romantic shipping
Underfell creator is still continuing underfell
Underfell got discontinued?
It was frans, kazefiend and Sanei both came back and posted it was romantic endgame on tumblr, but yeah it sucks when AUs get discontinued.
@@actualgoblin THIS
i stfg too many people confuse romantic and platonic actions, it gets on my nerves. i would love to see more casual character interactions that aren't always romance.
Literal chills of terror run down my spine when I hear the phrase "PJ's Daycare".
or vampire verse or whatever its called
or nerd and jock au
or when im doing language arts homework and see the word ‘fallacy’
or when im in French class and see the word ‘encre’
or when im trying to watch the movie Kiki’s Delivery Service
or when i hear the word ‘eraser’ and the word ‘reboot’ in quick succession
or when Elsa sings “the past is in the past”
that was way too many things.
I damn well had a “Vietnam flashback” moment.. growing up a fan of the great rogue and now seeing how shitty of a person they were is sickening… but then again I grew up in the brony fandom so I was desensitized at that point.
literally, when i heard the voice speak those words...
I have never physically recoiled at hearing the name of “pj daycare” I never read the comic or looked at the dubs bc the artstyle really made my eyes hurt. And when I did look up the controversy I blocked the artist and tried to pretend I never seen it
Although it is funny to just post the cover and watch ut fans lose it. Its like ptsd man
@@Ere-ok-999Man, you are one lucky bastard. Luck's one hell of a skill to master, and you managed to dodge a nuke.
@@Ere-ok-999 omg nei lcioicrega???
I had a permanent jaw drop the entire time he was covering the pj daycare thing shit is nasty
@@FairMaidenFlesh Yeah, as someone that, at a pretty young age, saw, well, practically saying all of it, I can agree. It was disgusting. I didn't even realize it properly at the time, but now that it surfaces again and again lately, I've come to realize just how fucked up it was.
underlust is not what it seems. it s an au that explains that the true love and true love only matters, not the lust. though then the creator of said au gave the ownershipt to fandom, and oh boy did they mess this au up!
i just say rip to that
Sucks to know that underlust could have been decent
@@MultiGamer64REAL yes.
@@SSFplayer2 yeah.
Still weird
The one variant of "if undertale was realistic' that I considered well made was when it was a 3D animation about a sarcastic sounding jerk of a guy who was raised by giraffes just trying to find a way out while inadvertently doing a pacifist run. Also fan fact: someone once considered the concept of a Undertale AU where the monsters got sent to Australia after the war, but no one felt like going through with it because most assumed there was no barrier to be put in as the wild life would sort out the problem
If Undertale was realistic was one of my favorite parody of Undertale, I found just how sarcastic Frisk was funny
Tbh Underlust is NOT about porn. I mean, there are some spicy topics but OG comic is kinda tragic.
Yeah if I recall asgore and toriel lose asriel before their even born and it's really emotional pretty surprising for an au called underLUST
oh and MTT was r*ped
i thought Underlust was just normal undertale but theyre horny.....and their clothes are pink
@@MyDadCameBackWithTheMilk
Sorta, in the comic, the monsters had infertility so Gaster (or "Luster" in the character roll) injected everyone with LUST like Alphys with the Almagamets and DETERMINATION
@@MyDadCameBackWithTheMilk that's where Undertail comes in, Undertail isn't really an AU more so a rule 34 hashtag for the fandom, way back in the day because there were so many 18+ fanart for the characters flooding the normal Undertale hashtag people decided to use Undertail as the hashtag for rule 34 stuff, though it seems people nowadays seems to think undertail is an au. XDD
I cry every day knowing what people have done in this community 😭
Ikr
Fr
Fr bro
that profile picture goes extremely hard
Deltarune is also V E R Y bad... I'm more of a DR fan and I do the same
i was an undertale kid and holy shit how some of this stuff fucked me up it's hard to see with stuff recently like Elisa gate or whatever is popular now being so young for me at least seeing a lot of the nsfw left me an almost out cast because i became the weird kid or touchy kid and i hate myself for doing shit like that but i'm lucky enough to be away from it and have that happen when i was much younger but i think about way to much i had friends when we where like that too and they feel the same way it's just how things that get really popular like for people who are young may end up being confused with a lot of things like how i was i saw things that i shouldn't in a much lesser light and that's the worse part i find is how it changed people but i hope this was less common for others
Glad you left but times have changed now.
My heart aches for u I went Tru the same experience
I used to have fights on UA-cam channels about morals of how shipping was a horrible thing to me back then, also you've got a point.
These atrocities shall not be forgiven
This cannot continue
@@whoknowzwut We must fix our past mistakes
@@Potatomastormillions have fallen
“Thy part in this.. shall not be forgiven.”
@@NebulaBubbles billions must abandon their AU.
This is actually pretty mild in the undertale fandom... Have you heard of the recent Jakei and Camila cuevas alegations uncovered by hopeless peaches?
Woah boy that's an entire thing, but any fucked up situation is fucked up no matter how small it may seem.
huh
Camila already talked about this, she didn't defend her friend(the groomer), they were guilt tripping her that she was scared for their health, but they didn't even care about Camila, but she didn't defend them or say they didn't do anything.
@@sonus5979 bruh, what about everything else she did? Like mess with Jaki and Nyx, as well as everything she did to hopeless peaches?
@@hiphip7838 I didnt here abt that soooo idk
It was only matter of time before you made a video covering Undertale's fandom, knowing that you made one previously of FNAF's community.
Wow, now that I'm much older I understand how screwed up something like PJ's daycare was. But what I also think is super funny is how I actually liked the series a lot, and watched it on repeat on youtube. I've never dug deeper so as to find THE REST, at the time I just enjoyed the comic and all the deviant stuff in it flew right by my head everytime I watched it again.
Holy Shit same. I'm kinda happy it all flew by me at the time, because if I was aware of those things and STILL enjoyed it, that would be also on me and not longer only on the creator. I still feel like shit, though.
WTF
The undertale community can feel their sins crawling on their back
good one
I don’t know how some girl (or guy…) looked at some pixelated drawing of a short lazy bum that wears Pink Bunny Slippers and resembles a corpse, and felt romantically attracted to it.
It’s one of those things that was a joke until it wasn’t a joke anymore… we got a little too silly for our own good
And now here we are, sans undertale the official Tumblr Sexyman (2022) and most of my mutuals on Instagram actively and unironically simping for him
I mean... over in the fnaf fandom people simp for a dude with his organs spilling out and whos rotting in a bunny suit so a skeleton isnt that weird💀😭
WTF it's a bunny
Welcome to the Internet!
11:38 I started seeing the world turn black and red eyes staring at me through the foggy distance. The homelander theme started to play as I felt my soul be grabbed down the depths of tumblr hell.
Madness itself is an symptom of extreme cringe
I thought I felt myself being dragged to hell, but then I remembered I live in the world where PJ's Daycare exists. *I was already there.*
“Grooming minor-“ that jump scared me and also made me laugh as fuck
I was one of those kids that was influenced by the pj's daycare thing, I thought it was completely fine, up until i rewatched those dub videos and also videos talking about it as a grown up. I didn't think that these influences can be that bad but experiencing it firsthand really gives me some perspective
"As a grown up" you're clearly still a child
@@mentallyillfinger yeah obviously, but I use that cuz I'm not 12 anymore aren't I? Your point?
@@onioncheeks7640a person is only fully grown when they're 18 years old
@@teardropteam I'd argue it would be 21 at least but since I dont wanna reveal ages I'll just say I'm older than that
Rage bait@@mentallyillfinger
I used to love PJs daycare, but I was much younger and never understood what it truly was. It's sad.
Same here, heck, Cloud9, one of the sans that appears is one of my sans I created and introduced to join the daycare and they got in, gosh I cringe so hard today, back then I didn't see anything wrong but now? Oh do I feel ashamed... I was such a child
me too. now everytime i hear "pj's daycare" i shutter and i have the urge to vomit. it ruined me and it's the reason why i'm hypersexual. i'm recovering though. i was only 12 when i saw all of that.
@@ropan ik silly I was there lmao
The concept is sweet actually, it's just the execution... Is disgusting. To say the least.
WTF
Undertale was a big thing back then as an early teenager until all the uncomfortable stuff creeped me out a bit.
Now days times have changed and the whole community kinda grew up.
I am glad that we are now in a time where you can get more comfortable with the community and people can see undertale for what it is.
If you are refering to the normal undertale community you would be correct because it is basically entirely part of the deltarune or au community. But the said au community part is basically just politics at this point.
10:42 - Hey, I just wanna tell you that Underlust is pretty NSFW, but it explores deep and serious topics as well. The AU is supposed to tell you that true love matters, not just lust itself! Yeah, the AU does have “lust” in it, and it may be pretty NSFW, but it’s still a pretty good AU imo :)
Barely. I mean I like the concept of love vs lust, but Jesus christ why in the WORLD is there an option to do intercourse? And THEN, I find out underlust sans and papyrus are unrelated and SANS wants to date him. You had NO IDEA how much I wanted to do the genocide route, I wanted to do it so fucking badly but the game wouldn't let me.
@@jarielwilliams9856 That's the fandom. I read the original and it was only papyton and sansby
@theodorachiriloiu9605 Huh, at least that's good. It's still gross how you can still have..you know...s e x
@@theodorachiriloiu9605I hate both of these ships... mainly Papyton CUZ IT SHIPS MY HUSBAND AND A BONE DUDE
And also bc is cringe
I HAD SEEN IT TOO MUCH ON PINTEREST
Corny ass boy, you're just tied to nostalgia bait lol
im so glad the undertale community has semi matured nowadays, currently the only problem the community has had nowadays are transphobes and just mean ppl
anything like weirdos who mischaracterised or oversexualized characters in horrible ways is extremely rare to find nowadays
stuff like AU's have became more serious and well made, etc
we have changed in a really good way and actually healed over time
the community nowadays (The discord main side of it atleast) is pretty small yet quite large at the same time
the popularity of the game dying down kind of helped the community to heal in some way, i myself kind of consider myself a figurehead of this side of the community and its honestly quite a nice place for the most part :)
it still has some bad things as said which pains me as the whole thing about the game is mostly friendship, but its indefinitely better.
you know a community’s been through some s**t when they look at transphobia and say “I mean it’s not THAT bad..?”
@@thebelovedlion2208 oh nah its bad, very
and stupid too if you consider a large amount of characters from the game are LGBTQ+
roblox sVc games are gottier
@@zalcuzidk It isn't
And none of the characters have anything to do with that shit
Frisk and Chara are gender-neutral in the geme for you to project yourself onto them
In Monsterkind genders don't matter, so it's natural for 2 male monsters to get together and have kids
But it's not normal for Humans
Just assigning it to LGBT side without getting into the worldbuilding and game design details makes you look stupid
I've been in the Undertale community for several years, I did not realize how fucking unhinged some of the fan content was. I'm gonna stick with my curated non weird list of comics and fanfiction that are actually good stories.
Yeah agree, a lot of them are unhinged, but don't let this part of the wider fan base make you think that this is ALL of the wider fan base. I dig extremely deep in the fandom, there are some amazing gems that I think everyone should explore and see. Even if it means you see some of the weirdos. But if you want to enjoy the game casually that is ALWAYS good as well! We all just want to love and appreciate good art and stories.
@@hiphip7838 I knew about the cookie incident, but that other stuff, man. I prefer fanfiction to anything else, and I've found a lot of gems in that regard too.
@@noahwilson4311 well however you're enjoying stuff just make sure to expand your palette I would say
same man. i've found little GEMS of undertale comics and fanfiction i hold close to my heart, i love them to death because they're so hard to find.
and by that, i'm not an sans AU fan even if some of those might be good, i'm just not interested in the 500 flavors of bone clones that all taste the same.. i prefer the niche of established-world exploring stories that work with the original game's cast. a few examples of the niche being Dogs of Future Past and Deeper Down, and others in the "vanilla-faithful" vein.
@@paradoxtatorstudios9681 I've read a ridiculous amount of Undertale fanfiction, so I know niche. If you want something dark I recommend checking out Flowey is not a good life coach or Fade Away, for lighter stuff consider You Monster or Redemption. All are in the highest tier in my opinion and follow somewhat close to vanilla, each with their own little tweaks.
I have never physically moved so much, I have never heard of that child thingy comic thing until just now, I wanted to cry and puke at the same time.
Researching this video was quite the upsetting journey
@@whoknowzwut no way I gotta check that out (wish me luck)
I’ve always imagined Chara and Asriel having to go through Toriels emails before she can check them to get rid of creepy fan mail
You know the thing is pretty bad when the children are the ones who need to protect the adults innocense, and the worst of all is that it was VERY LIKELY that some of those emails werent for Toriel, but for them 😬
17:22 "the concept of France is abysmal"
What a chad
i do think it's worth noting that the tumblr post toby fox made when announcing undertale's official release literally says "use #undertale for sfw fanart and #undertail for nsfw fanart". he spent time making work for homestuck & that informed a lot of his early fanbase and he knew this perfectly well lmao
My jaw actually dropped when dude started talking about the paperjam comic, I always avoided it and I'm glad I avoided it but holy shit I wasn't expecting it to go down that path.
I do agree with this videos veiws, but i just wanted to point out one thing. "Underlust" was actually made as a metaphor for hypersexuality and the effect the disorder has on ones mind. It was a vent for the creator and wasn't meant to be p/rnographic
She made adult content based on it, but the AU itself it's pretty mature while dealing with serious topics
@@mariih_S2 but of course the fans had to turn it into a cesspool of mindless smut, which is honestly sad if the original AU was actually pretty good. i've always keep my distance from it because... well, it seemed exactly the kind of stuff i want nothing to do with.
13:53 ok i need to bring this up, it's actually rather common for a kid to want to marry someone they like, even if it's platonic, heck i did that when i was really little cuz i just assumed marriage was just the same as getting a best friend or something, But if an adult is saying "I'll marry you when you're older" they better damn well specify that they're just saying it to not make the kid cry, and judging by what we see in most of the paperjam's daycare comics, PJ SURE AS HELL ISN'T SAYING IT AS JUST A "I'm trying to keep the kid happy since it's my job" KIND OF SITUSTION.
i still remember when i said I wanted to marry my brother and my family made fun of me saying that for years
From what I know about the original underlust is that it was depressing as hell but got lost into smut
5:33 this almost killed me cuz of how f**king random it was
13:00 I agree, that the whole child/adult relationship is weird asf. Sometimes kids dont know better, thats just what they do. Its a little cute. What I have a problem is, is that Paperjam isnt another Sans, hes Inks/Errors Child (so another kid). Fresh is another Sans, so hes a lot older than PJ... More like... An uncle. Even though theyre kids in this comic, when you actually know about them it gets super weird. Also the people suggesting that in the comments should know better, its just a weird thing to suggest.
The literal nanosecond he said Paperjam's Daycare I had a WW2 flashback and went psycho.
And you couldn’t have even been in WW2…
The dark side is powerful.
6:47 was a life changing experience the animation beautiful it was like I was hearing the voice of an angel singing the quality was 4k hd this made me smile
Every big fanbase has such dark sides but it's important to talk about it, thanks for the video
You started by talking about devolution but honestly the undertale fandom is more so an example of evolution. As time went on the low quality garbage and trends chasers all got filtered out and now a days the delta-tale fandom is filled with genuine fans who actually 1. Care about the games and even if the fan-work is bad it is at the very least a work of passion 2. People are now pickier with fan content which makes it so that often the popular works are of a higher quality than before
I read A LOT of fanfiction, I just replayed Undertale after playing Deltarune for the first time. As I always do after finishing any content, either an anime, a tv show or a game, I go to Ao3 to see if there are any good fanfics of any ship I may like, so i went to Ao3 to look for Undertale fanfics.
Honestly, I hate how the undertale fandom is, specially on the fanfictions. The top ships in Ao3 are:
Sans (Undertale)/Reader (7507)
Sans/Sans (Undertale) (7229)
Alphys/Undyne (Undertale) (4442)
Papyrus (Undertale)/Reader (3162)
Papyrus/Sans (Undertale) (2891)
Papyrus & Sans (Undertale) (2304)
Frisk/Sans (Undertale)
(1635)
The numbers are the amount of works per tag, THOUSANDS of different works.
So, what do we have on the top 7? We have Sancest, incest and a child with a skeleton. I dont like xreader content but at least it isnt in the same level as the ships I just wrote. The only two decent tags are Alphys x Undyne and Sans and Papyrus (Platonically: just them being bros nothing weird)
I honestly prefer how the Deltarune fandom has been. It feels like a breath of fresh air, not 100+ different Aus with ships between 100 different sans, not as many popular questionable ships, just overall good and fresh content compared to Undertale.
To be fair, the vast majority of those were written years ago. The Undertale fandom has calmed down a lot, especially now that Delatrune is here. I think the crazy fans either moved on to other fandoms or grew the hell up
The fact that their is so much sans x paps fanfiction is way scarier than frans could ever dream of
SANCEST
shipping characters with themself is crazy to me
My OTP is Sans. By himself.
20:25 "Hmmm, bird abuse huh? Tell me more about this avimedes, like where they live..." *calmly loads shotgun*
One needle wasn’t enough
The needle certainly didn't do it justice! Time to switch to the pellet dispenser!
I’m a fun of Undertale, not the community. The community is scary. I remember when someone introduced me to “PJs daycare” and I was like “uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh whattt” like it makes me feel gross just thinking about it 😭
I always wondered why proshipping was so common in undertale than any other fandom I’ve been in. I remember seeing ships like frans, sanscest, and inc*stous ships back when the fandom was at its peak. I’ve seen people argue that it’s because the fandom was made up of mostly kids, but like… most of the proship art was extremely well made. It really made me realize how common it is for people to openly enjoy morally questionable (sexual) things.
So happy you mentioned how weird the frans ship is - it was even weirder of how popular the ship was. Seems like nowadays the proship artists have left and moved onto another fandom (thank god).
I have a theory that the only reason Frans (frisk x sans) was so popular was because it was the equivalent of a fangirl marrying Sans, Frisk is a doll that you put yourself in, that's why it has no gender and doesn't speak for the entire duration game, the only canon things is that they is a kid, in the game everyone calls you kid, heck, even monster kids says you are of their same age, but how convenient that frans fandom always makes frisk a woman with huge breasts and big hips and for some reason they hated a ship with logic like Soriel but they never gave arguments. Thank goodness Frans will never be canon.
@@rubiperezquitian8071 I 100% agree and used to think the same thing. It’s literally just selfshipping and self inserts. Especially looking back on most Frans art you’d see that frisk doesn’t even look like frisk… just some random grown woman who happens to share the name frisk.
@@rubiperezquitian8071 honestly when i first heard frans i thought it ment sans x flowy witch is also an affront to god and or any other god/gods figure you worship
Keep crying because people ship fictional characters. It hurts no one.
@@mentallyillfinger then why do you care so much about defending it?
My GOD I love videos like these! It's so refreshing seeing someone call out the toxicity and general weirdness of any fandom, especially a massively popular one like Undertale. I consider myself to be an avid Undertale fan-content enjoyer despite me not having played the game just yet (dw I'll try to get the game soon). I feel this much more with Deltarune though, as I adore that game and its fanbase about a billion times more than Undertale.
But yeah, as someone who is in the UT/DR fandom to an extent, this video is what everyone NEEDS to see. The amount of questionable fan content I have seen in this fandom is SURPRISINGLY large, way more large than I initially thought it would be. This is course does not diminish the AMAZING fan content others make--I personally write little things here and there--but it is very important nonetheless. Same goes for every other fandom too; not everyone is a creep and not everyone makes questionable stuff. There are always genuinely talented people in every fanbase!
With this being said, I haven't even watched this video yet lol, I'm commenting before I see it in full, but thank you for making this video. As I said, the UT/DR community, and by extension every other fandom, needs to watch videos like these.
You earned a sub, glad I saw this recommended to me!
Sodomrune
Machines Unchained
Snuffrune
Underhertail
Underlust
Undercheese
These are not only not safe for work, but not safe for LIFE.
20:25 as a proud and caring owner of birds, this hurts to think about. 😔
6:56 is what everyone who has seen a Frans ship has done to their computer.
5:20 the satan music why do you torture us with this
shattap sou is peak
Holy damn, I was never expecting somebody would use my redid post about the needle cookie incident on a video, but here we are! I REALLY do appreciate your stance about this whole story and looked more into and explained it as I have seen so many videos mentioning this topic to be blamed on the whole fandom immediately. Also, Thank you for mentioning that the victim had some skeletons in their closet, so this story is more complicated than it seems.
7:08 WHO MADES THIS IMAGE AND WHY HAHAHAHAHAH
How to simple channel i think
Wow, after seeing this video i realized how lucky i am since i only knew about the "Story of undertale" animation (and the other 2 made by the same creator) and nothing else mentioned in the video, also, your amazing voice and your epic commentary made going through this cringe stuff easier, kind of like someone holding your hand as you walk through a dark forest.
I legit felt uncomfortable when you told a story about a needle cookie. I could feel the pain, ugh… Also, seriously? Doing such terrible thing because of just a ship? This „fan” should have been arrested!
10:30 noooo underlust it's not like that 😭 underlust is an AU focused on trauma. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH UNDERTAIL 😭😭😭😭 why does the undertale fandom keep confusing these two
Blame some people who keeps on doing that. Not the fandom itself
@@ajfreeman164 fandom is a group of people if you didn't knew
You mean SA?
@@Alright281 SA is what? Trauma
@@mariih_S2 yes sexual trauma
If there was one Undertale au that made me uncomfortable, its Horrortale. The way the horror aspect is taken into an intense level is not what I expected from a horror comic. Not to mention this comic probably shows how terrifyingly horror ACTUALLY is.
Horrortale is peak ngl
@@swoopsack3368 exactly! But reading the comic STILL makes me uncomfortable 😰😰😰😰😰
"Want a hotdog?"
@@Lenro_Zhi no thanks + ratio + didn't ask
HELP_tale is better and the best one out of the horror themed AUs
As a ut fan, this went from a chill reminder this community sucks in some places to a horror ride really quick.
i found myself staring at the subway surfers gameplay at 4:09, i dont know what to say
You feel your sins crawling in your back.
you know that one scene when Rick and Jerry looked into the mind of that one talking cat and saw something extremely disturbing that even Rick held a gun to his head? thats me when the Pj daycare segment started
Honestly I don’t mind lust cuz the more of a fandom lust is actually pretty kind just flirty and unlust it has a sad story but honestly I think underlust minus the list is honestly pretty good from what I’ve seen
I meant lust not list just the autocorrect
Out of all of the NSFW AUs, it's the best one. And tries to at least be interesting. But the rest are icky.
Papyrus and mettaton is wholesome tho, so good for em
16:46 oh no. OH. NO. Please don’t be referring to-
Edit: oh no god damn it
I have a theory that the only reason Sancest was so popular was because there were no other slash ships in the game, the only ones were Gribblys, an NPC, Papyrus his brother (I will never go back to that place again) and Asgore who was not a handsome young man. My evidence is that there is this fandom called welcome home that is quite popular and has thousands of AUs but wallycest is not very popular and is not very well seen in the fandom, and this is thanks to Barnaby, who is Wally's best friend and who is shipped with him until the bones, Moral: if you ever create a famous media make sure to add some characters to ship with the most popular character, because if there are no ships in your story people will create them by force, and thanks barnaby for saving the welcome home fandom.
1:49 I was like "What? It's just an ordinary crossover fana- *OH MY GOODNESS!!"*
SQUIDWARD!
9:29 I HAVE MY OWN FNAFTALE AU (I originally made it out of spite because I thought all the others sucked, but I quickly grew attached and started taking it seriously and fleshing it out), I FEEL SO CALLED OUT, LMFAO-
Since you commented you get a pass
Yeah I’m with you there
I made my own version that never really saw the light of day, it was just the undertale cast coming to the overworld being in the fnaf universe
"Oh boy, I wonder what all the commotion about this Undertale game is about!"
*mispells undertale as undertail*
"OH SH*T OH F*CK WHY GOD WHY"
You really shot yourself in the foot
Great video, dude. You inspect every part of UnderTale, the good, the bad and the ugly. Hope you continue to grow your channel!
I appreciate that nsfw aus are not held to the severity of... other.. common fandom outings. Many people would consider any nsfw art as a sign a fandom has fallen and honestly? Lol, lmao.
My personal barometer for a bad fandom is how many artists get threatened. (Looking at you SU).
Edit after watching: oh yeah and whatever the hell pjs daycare is. Also I was gonna bring up the needle cookie incident, forgetting that was an undertale incident.
15:51 holy shit I watched that comic when it was newer and liked it a lot. Thank god I stopped looking into it before it got to THAT LEVEL
This is the first time hearing about PJ daycare and i feel like my stomach killed itself...Jesus christ that was hard to go through
I used to be a big undertale fan, i remember when i was younger and i watched pjs daycare. Its crazy because until now i thought it was so normal and nothing was weird about it but actually thinking back to it now that series was weird asf
i feel like these types of videos are very nice when it comes to popular pieces of media. like some sort of warning to not let other pieces of media become a cesspit like this and overshadow the good hidden beneath. i am. like i have no words. like i've never been into undertale but i've seen firsthand (back in 2015 when it was brand spankin' new) the horrible things that have come out of a game that has the literal message of "pacifism" as its root; it has always been something i avoided. the needle cookie incident strikes me the most fear and deranged whenever i think of this game and its community LMAO
also off-topic suggestion: methinks a type of video like this for danganronpa would be interesting considering it's been 6 long years since an official (good quality) game has been released in the canon storyline, the og creator left to form his own studio and make a brand new, non-dangan game, and the r/danganronpa subreddit recently banned tier lists, the top form of content on there 💀
5:33 "This attraction is great"
"So many guards I can ra-"
WHATTTTTT
6:27 for my music taste I cannot find anything bad about it is pretty decent and memorable especially the story of undertale
“Uh papyrus…I burnt the water.”
To add another layer to PJs daycare, Pj is a shipchild between Ink sans and Error sans.
12:17 this sound byte has ruined my decade
Yeah i am disgusted by all the sans NSFW images out there with sans being my favorite character. #StopPorn
NSFW be NSFW. I don't exactly mind, cause as long as it isn't anything bad then whatever, I'll just stay away from it.
I don’t have a problem with nsfw at all, I just think that the internet in general has a problem where it’s really easy to find stuff accidentally. I literally stopped looking up characters names of google for references when I was a kid because I kept accidentally finding nsfw art. If we could just have a system to filter stuff out of public spaces by default it would be much better.
@@annoyingfandragon that's fair, hate to find stuff that you don't want to see like spoilers and weird stuff
I thought giving sans a "glowstick" was gonna be worst thing before hearing VERY FAMILIAR "whoaoaoao"
I love that you mentioned the Starset song for this
The worst part of all of this is that everyone has an AU and every AU is Canon cause of how undertale works (not canon in the original undertale story but since alternate universes do exist in undertale universe blah blah blah) this means that no matter how horrible the ships or content is, it’s technically real in an undertale universe
"Where every sans is aged down and placed in a daycare"
Okay that seems wholesome enough
"And takes comments from the users on what to draw next"
Ah sh*t, here we go again
6:15 the fact that you said the animation has improved is sad considering it wasnt even animated by the same guy
0:14 MY GUY, YOU REFERENCED STARSET? you just gained a SUB
Devolution goes HARD
@@whoknowzwutikr? You got a sub from me to.
- fellow starset fan
I just unlocked some childhood memories that I wished stay hidden 💀
But like for real, I now remember some time in elementary school and my friends began talking about the “Frans Needle Cookie Incident”, but I was raised pretty innocent not to know what it was. I also came across that one panel where the… I think it was “Palette” said that whoever did it r*ped them, but I luckily didn’t find the actual scene, only the panel with the dialogue in it that was shown in this video. Come to think of it, I came across a LOt of Undertale content I don’t remember seeing. Like, I had vague ideas of what AU’s there are, like I for some reason, upon seeing a picture of Swap!Sans, was like “oh, he likes tacos!” and then i was like “how did i know that?” only to have a faint memory of a computer open to a white website w/ black text with a picture of Swap!Sans and a caption reading “Enjoys making tacos.” I also had a random instance where I was watching an UT animation, and since I never saw any playthrough of the game, I thought Undyne became Queen of the Underground after fighting Toriel, and that led to me figuring out it was HorrorTale!!!
But yeah, sorry for that tangent. It’s been fun watching this tho lol ;p Some parts made me laugh.
14:10 This made me burst out laughing for some reason .... That sums up the level of my humour.
Also I'd like to ask which fanbase is worse between Undertale and FNAF?
They're both about even. They both have good sides which is Fnaf fans trying to piece together the lore and liking their favorite games and Undertale fans just liking specific characters while also jamming to the music. And then the deeper darker side which is basically people somehow not being able to not trying to groom literal children and driving fan game creators insane. I don't consider the p*rn a bad thing unless with the fnaf p*rn creators they add the children souls which would be fucked up but in all the cases I've seen they don't because half the time they aren't even animatronics. Anyways both fanbases are good but when the darkside comes out you know shit is going to go down.
11:11 Objection I have seen a glimpse one of those and they gave me trauma for 10 months
Hey there! You probably rember me from your fnaf video, Undertale is one of my favorite games of all time and i agree that the fanbase is basically the fnaf fandom 2.0 but overall Undertale is still an amazing indie game that everyone should play just ignore the fandom
Ok, I found out Under(her)tail on accident late one night...
There are 9 chapters and a remake of the first comic.
*I r e a d e a c h o n e.*
Note: This is a quite long comment with a few controversial opinions.
When I saw the title of the video, I expected to hear of the 2016 comment (and of course of the cookie incident). And to be honest, I wzs right. It was mostly 2016 stuff. Except fot PJ's Daycare, I think. It has never been a subject I looked into. But seeing this video, it feels... unsurprising. Like, I'm very used to this kind of stuff. It may be an unpopular saying, but glad to learn about this stuff.
But anyways, the 2016 fandom was wild. I wasn't there to see it myself, but I heard many stories from trustworthy sources. Back in the day, you were being harassed for a lot of things. You don't ship Alphyne? Harassment. You think Chara is not evil? Harassment. You do not like Sans? Welcome to the pariah zone.
And how is it today in comparison? If you explicitly state that you do not ship Alphyne, you will get negative responses, but no harassment (as far as I've seen). For Chara, all opinions tend to be widely accepted nowadays.
As for Sans? Well he's like the Charizard of the Undertale community. He was so overrated in the past (and even nowadays) that a bunch of people have decided that it was too much and decided to hate him as a response to his popularity. Now, you could call Sans both overrated and overhated.
And that is not finished with 2016. Many people have heard of what happened with Flowerfell at this point, but I have another story, and it is that of Flora Frisk.
Flora Frisk was an AU where Frisk tried to save Flowey and failed. It turned them into a plant/Human hybrid being known as Flora Frisk.
The author was just trying to make an AU and got harassed for this, by many persons. This is mostly a story of a person that got harassed for trying to find his way in the Undertale community. In the end, because of the harassment, he disappeared from Internet and deleted everything. He once tried to come back a few years later but he couldn't bring himself to do it.
That was the story. If anyone that reads this comment knew about this story, I would be surprised, unless I know that person. Also, I have screenshots of the harassment.
Also, I will add this, because I do not see people talking about it. The author seemingly has deleted the story of Underf**k from Internet. I do not know why exactly, but I remember that the AU got a lot of backlash when it got created.
In a similar vein, if I recall correctly, while the AU itself is pretty explicit, the story of Underheat is about consent. Just saying.
Oh boy, I feel like I'm going to get a lot of flashback for what I'm about to say. Anyways, I believe there's one big problem with the Undertale fanbase, and that is heterophobia. You're reading it correctly. I will not talk about homophobia (well, it'll be mentioned, but it won't be centered on it), but heterophobia.
So, I'm not talking about how, regardless of what you search, you will find art (visual or not) of homosexual ships, even if you search a specific heterosexual ship. That's not the subject, plus I have yet to find a fanbase that doesn't do this.
No, I'm talking about how, in easily accessible parts of the community, you can find AUs being widely hated just because they contain heterosexual ships (except for Asgore X Toriel and Dogamy X Dogaressa because "they're canon). I'm talking about how said heterophobic behavior is seen as normal, if not even encouraged in some instances. I'm talking about how you will receive backlash (small or big) for any comment that could be perceived as homophobic (whether it actually is or not), but you will never see such a thing for heterophobic behavior, if people do not right defend it. I'm also talking about how common this is.
Now, don't get me wrong. Homophobia is a problem, but so is heterophobia. And the way heterophobia is perceived and treated in this community is one thing I find quite shocking.
However, let's be honest here. There is all kinds of content made by fans. There are AUs that are more mature than Undertale (mature as in containing serious, adult stuff), and that's fine. Mature stuff doesn't make an AU bad. It just means you should try to know what you step into.
There are AUs that are very weird. Well, Undertale is weird. Monsters do not have the same culture as Humans. If anything, weirdness should be accepted as part of Undertale AUs.
There are AUs that exist to awaken fantasies. If it's not the kind of stuff you're into, it's also fine. Just don't look into it.
Yes, people in the Undertale community have sinned. There are questionable arts, of any form, but for a fanbase, that's indeed very normal. And for any active member, as stated in this video, this is just a normal Tuesday. Being part of a fanbase usually means you eventually will have to accept this kind of content. If you're not part of it, yeah, there's stuff that will shock you.
And of course, there is a lot of good stuff. In fact, if you're a newbie and actually think about it, you will find far less "sinful" stuff than any other kind of stuff, unless you're really unlucky. So don't worry too much about it.
Like any fanbase, the Undertale one has its pros and cons, whether it is the old fanbase (which is the only one talked about in this video) or the current one.
And in all honesty, I could talk about the problems of the current fanbase, but:
-It's still ongoing, so it could lead to very heated arguments
-After an hour of writing this comment, I'm getting quite lazy
That comment started as just me wanting to share a few facts.
In the end, hope you enjoyed this way too long comment. Have fun.
We do NOT. And I mean NOT, and as that, NEVER..talk about Pj’s daycare
So glad I never dived too deep into undertale as a kid
5:33 so many guards you can WHAT
UnderHERTail is pretty peak ngl like the artwork gets better and better with each chapter and the story actually has some serious parts that are really well handled only downside is SEGGS
"Im watching this hentai for the plot"
Bro is upgrading his literature by devious means
Holy crap bro, i thought you had a lot of subscribers because of how good your videos are, i can honestly see you getting really big in the future!
can we just not count the countless r34 people and the people that ship characters like frisk with characters like sans as members of this fandom? shippers and r34 artists give stuff a bad name we are fine here dunno why we should get dragged down by the selfcest shippers that seem to wanna be in an abusive relationship seeing the characters they ship.
oh the thumbnail lied to me it's just the oddly cringy stuff like story of undertale. hmm to inform people on underlust, unlike the other 4 you mentioned underlust is a story about mettaton recovering from sexual assault and his friendship with papyrus in the first half and in the second half frisk showing the underground the true meaning of love, the other four can and should burn tho. well that's what the wiki ways i haven't thought of reading it yet.
@@miniwhiffy3465 Wow, I actually like post-rape/trauma recovery stories (provided that don't try to somehow justify it and pair the victim with the abuser), I also usually don't mind Papyrus x Mettaton.
@@najpotenicewolf934a good book regarding post-rape trauma is called Speak. It is incredibly well written and I believe it has a satisfying ending.
@@najpotenicewolf934🤢
@@littlemoth4956 About the type of fics, or about the ship. Because the emote really doesn't tell me much. xD
I remember my time in the fandom from when I was 15 to 19 and oh boy was I traumatised and saw some of the weirdest shit ( and even sadly watched PJ's daycare between 15-16 ), I even wrote a undertale parody of the "I will survive" song by Gloria Gaynor for a music exam when I was 16 and got a A for it 😂 But I just want to say two things and it's that this video was amazing and this second is for the used-to-be fans or still fans out there seeing this comment after remembering their cringy pasts with the problematic stuff. If you look back at yourself in the past and you cringe at what you had done, that means you have fully grown up and moved on and you are fully forgiven 🤗 Great video and I hope that you have a wonderful day!
You are going to encounter *a lot* of weirdness, trash, and toxicity in any fandom, really. I've learned over the years that it's always a good idea to just keep your love of any given content personal, and not get involved with the community.
i remember surfing through the undertale fandom wiki and then i say a button called undertail so i clicked it but omg was filled with NSFW and the cover was frisk doing a very naughty thing to toriel while she was sleeping standing by far the worst ive seen out of the undertale fandom
I'm actually glad the fandom is now calm after deltarune got released
I’m terrified even though I don’t know what pjs daycare is WHAT DID IT DO…
8:47 underverse!
Man...you made me remember the nerd and jock comic.
Plus the the palette and goth thing was sick and vile.
What happened
What happened
@@wormwoodmain8385 Basically nerd and jock comic: specifically pallete and goth s/a & r**pë was fetishized.
WHAT THE SHIT
@@anarrator4631