Question: Are you saying that in phrases like "with the child," "to the gym," "for the job," etc., you have time to put the tip of the tongue back on the top palate for the T/D position? For me, the tip ends up somewhere near the bottom teeth in these examples. Same applies to words like "question," "Eugene."
Yeah. I just played with the examples you gave and I have absolutely no problem getting the tip into that position even saying them really quickly (though fast speech uses a little trick that slightly modifies things, but it's still on the top of the mouth around the same place). Your problem might be from mouth posture
Thanks. To clarify, I make CH when the middle of my tongue touches the upper palate. Kind of like "SH" but with the mid-tongue further up and actually touching the roof. The sound produced is almost identical. I tried your approach, but in words like *change*, where the vowel takes you away from the alveolar ridge, you have to both begin and end in that top alveolar position? Wow, sounds really hard and it impacts the "e" sound in "change."
Yep, you start and end there for that word. Definitely sounds like you have a mouth posture that has a pushed forward tongue (but compared to American English, many languages are like that). The fact that the sound is almost identical but you then have trouble getting in and out of it is exactly one of the key reasons I've identified for developing the proper mouth posture (in addition to general vocal tract control)
That's probably the default placement since the start is T/D, but you can place it a little farther back since it blends with SH/ZH. In other words, the exact placement has a little bit of a range 🙂
Slide the front of the tongue into the TH from the CH (you need proper muscle control and mouth posture). For fast speech, you have to almost fling the front of the tongue into the TH and/or you can change the CH into a SH. Alternatively, we often just drop the TH istead -> Watch that = Watch at
Is there a stop T in watch, match, pitch (wawhTch mahTch pihTch) ? I tend to pronounce a T before CH in words that end in "TCH" or "CH" also in "Get Tom" would it sound awkward to produce a glottal T? Thanks so much for the great content!
I'll make a video response to the "tch" one a little later. For "Get Tom", the default rule when you have a T sound at the end of a word and then a T sound at the start of the next word, the first T is stopped (glottal stop, but can be a held stop) and the second isn't. This is talked about as a "rule", but it's actually just the way the T sound works in those positions by default anyway. Note that there are two alternatives here. 1) in fast speech, you can drop the T in "get", meaning no stop, and just say the second T; 2) the full enunciation of the word is always possible, just unlikely, so occasionally you'll hear both T's be pronounced, though the second will be stronger/louder because it's at the start of a stressed syllable. Remember, real American speech has a dynamic range and flow that affects what might actually be pronounced based on possible vatiations in how to produce a sound (like the dental T/D as a replacement for the TH sounds) and based on the possible rules that can apply between words (sometimes there's more than one, which gives us more options), and especially based on the speed (fast speech can start to break certain rules, but there are usually logical reasons for this based on the mechanics of the mouth).
Love your videos. They help me comprehend the pronunciation way better. Thank you!
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So I just put my tongue in the t position and hold it there and say sh to make ch?
Question: Are you saying that in phrases like "with the child," "to the gym," "for the job," etc., you have time to put the tip of the tongue back on the top palate for the T/D position? For me, the tip ends up somewhere near the bottom teeth in these examples. Same applies to words like "question," "Eugene."
Yeah. I just played with the examples you gave and I have absolutely no problem getting the tip into that position even saying them really quickly (though fast speech uses a little trick that slightly modifies things, but it's still on the top of the mouth around the same place). Your problem might be from mouth posture
Thanks. To clarify, I make CH when the middle of my tongue touches the upper palate. Kind of like "SH" but with the mid-tongue further up and actually touching the roof. The sound produced is almost identical. I tried your approach, but in words like *change*, where the vowel takes you away from the alveolar ridge, you have to both begin and end in that top alveolar position? Wow, sounds really hard and it impacts the "e" sound in "change."
Yep, you start and end there for that word. Definitely sounds like you have a mouth posture that has a pushed forward tongue (but compared to American English, many languages are like that). The fact that the sound is almost identical but you then have trouble getting in and out of it is exactly one of the key reasons I've identified for developing the proper mouth posture (in addition to general vocal tract control)
Does the front part of the tongue touch the roof of the mouth in the same position as N, T, and D?
That's probably the default placement since the start is T/D, but you can place it a little farther back since it blends with SH/ZH. In other words, the exact placement has a little bit of a range 🙂
How to link the CH sound with a word that starts with TH sound in fast speech? Like for example: "watch that".
Thanks ❤.
Slide the front of the tongue into the TH from the CH (you need proper muscle control and mouth posture). For fast speech, you have to almost fling the front of the tongue into the TH and/or you can change the CH into a SH. Alternatively, we often just drop the TH istead -> Watch that = Watch at
@@NativeEnglishHacks Thank you so much teacher Josh. But if you could make a short on it so I could imitate you, I would be grateful.
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@ho5722 Hopefully this is sufficient
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@@NativeEnglishHacks I don't know what to say. Thank you a lot teacher Josh. I really appreciate it. ❤️❤️❤️
@@NativeEnglishHacks Please don't advise dropping sounds for fast speech.
are these pronounced different in indian accent?
No idea
Is there a stop T in watch, match, pitch (wawhTch mahTch pihTch) ? I tend to pronounce a T before CH in words that end in "TCH" or "CH" also in "Get Tom" would it sound awkward to produce a glottal T? Thanks so much for the great content!
I'll make a video response to the "tch" one a little later.
For "Get Tom", the default rule when you have a T sound at the end of a word and then a T sound at the start of the next word, the first T is stopped (glottal stop, but can be a held stop) and the second isn't. This is talked about as a "rule", but it's actually just the way the T sound works in those positions by default anyway.
Note that there are two alternatives here. 1) in fast speech, you can drop the T in "get", meaning no stop, and just say the second T; 2) the full enunciation of the word is always possible, just unlikely, so occasionally you'll hear both T's be pronounced, though the second will be stronger/louder because it's at the start of a stressed syllable.
Remember, real American speech has a dynamic range and flow that affects what might actually be pronounced based on possible vatiations in how to produce a sound (like the dental T/D as a replacement for the TH sounds) and based on the possible rules that can apply between words (sometimes there's more than one, which gives us more options), and especially based on the speed (fast speech can start to break certain rules, but there are usually logical reasons for this based on the mechanics of the mouth).
@@NativeEnglishHacks Thanks a million for the detailed explanation! now I'm starting to understand the intricacies of English pronunciation!
Awesome ☺
Wait, tsh = ch and dzh = j? that’s not true I mean try to say "tship" or "dzhoke" it’s not the same as "chip" or "joke"
You're correct, but only if you don't blend them. It would be like trying to say "toy" as to-ee or to-ih