During a dev interview a developer said it has no lootboxes or “anything like that” but the google play store has it listed paid features as having “random rewards” which they are legally obligated to disclose
Oh, it's not lootboxes, you don't get loot, you get heroes, and you open them up in orbs, not boxes! They're hero-orbs! Totally distinct from lootboxes /s
@@neruneri Whatever they called them, it falls under a violation of the Belgian gambling laws. And it doesn't make the game more available for me to play lmao
The first impression was much like yours: there's going to be some kind of real money conversion. Buy units or power ups, pay to bring defeated heroes back sooner, pay for extra chances to beat an especially hard level. I also couldn't help but notice they used a modernized version of a fifty year old song instead of making their own jingle.
So it's basically Lord of Vermillion, a free game that comes with your FFXIV subscription... Genius at Blizzard: "Let's make LoV, but make it pay to win" Other genius at Blizzard: "THAT'S BRILLIANT!"
@@xYiazmatx But make it something people will actually pay. Its a mobile game, its gonna be predatory as hell and designed to incentive spending real money to lessen manufactured problems.
@@cardbutton892 I was poking fun at XIV andies making everything about their game, even if it's just entirely forgotten side content. As everyone else has already noted, it's way more likely to have taken inspiration from other popular mobile games (clash royale, etc) than... fucking lov of all things
The design of this looks SO much like Clash of clans. Something that makes sense considering the timeline this was developed and it was under Bobby K. Clash of clans was part of the unholy trilogy of greed in gaming which was clash of clans - Candy crush - Call of duty. Any games outside this trilogy literally didn't exist for high end executive's for a large part of 2010's. (Would recommend checking out jim sterlings old video on it). This game was made purely to milk as much money as possible since Activision already own CoD and Candy crush.
Co-worker who plays a lot of mobile games like Clash of Clans (or Clash Mini or whatever he keeps talking to me about as I nod along) is very excited about this. Asked me if I'd seen the trailer and how awesome the figurines looked and all I could say was the gameplay looked like garbage. Of course I'm aware that the Blizzard of old is gone, but even back with Hearthstone and Overwatch you could still see glimpses of them coming into a genre with a polished AF take on a known formula and taking over the genre. I'm looking at this and while I know I'm not the audience, I couldn't tell you if it looks any different from all those other mobile games. Hell, I think the units look barely recognizable during gameplay and that says a lot when its original designs come from an RTS. Either way, I guess we both got what we expected from that announcement and neither of us is disappointed, so good job, I guess.
Honestly if it was another company I could possibly believe the developers were as passionate about the game as they sounded instead of catering to the audience they believe will likely play their game? Either way the game looks as mobile game as you could possibly get, maybe gameplay is more fun than it looks but first impressions were rather bland in my opinion.
Someone in the beta test showed a video about the ingame "store", but there were no chests in there, you can buy only a limited supply of gold and gems per day, like two-three purchases of the same amount every time.
the game canonically existing inside the Warcraft universe is a fun touch, but it does lead to some kinda messed up situations: "Bro check this out I just pulled a 5 star Onyxia!" "wait what really? that's kinda fucked up dude, She killed my parents when she firebombed stormwind as prestor"
I think it is gonna crash and burn, it is not made for WoW audience but a younger generation and they don’t have the history or emotional ties to WoW, so why would the play this instead of any other game already on the market like this.
Blizzard is just another company trying to get in on the mobile market. The high regard so many boomers hold for that company isn't the same for many others. Personally, mobile market is only place I trust Blizzard to give the appropriate amount of monetization.
@@redmist2195 Na it's going to appeal to many people in Asia like China. Why do you think even the simplest mobile game like Candy Crush and Clash Royal makes triple the money then WoW like hundreds of billions of dollars. Mobile games makes more money then every mmo game and triple A games combined.
@@chilidaemon7113 Na it's going to appeal to many people in Asia like China. Why do you think even the simplest mobile game like Candy Crush and Clash Royal makes triple the money then WoW like hundreds of billions of dollars. Mobile games makes more money then every mmo game and triple A games combined.
@@DeeFourCee Don't act like an Idiot, I know you're not (and this is for life), take a look at "Clash of Clans" first before replicating what you've seen people saying. People are saying bullship and you're going with them lol. Don't go saying what you don't know for sure before drawing your own conclusions.
Devs thinking we wanted a warcraft mobile game is proof they want the game industry to crash and burn, and push us away in droves. So tired of this disrespect to the fans.
The industry just sees console and PC games as a cancer that need to go away. These parlor games that take a weekend to code and design make billions more in revenue than the grandiose passion projects we expect out of them.
Well, not every game is meant for everyone, that's it. I don't like WoW for example but always loved the RTS series in both franchises, WC and SC. I Love Diablo as well, don't like Overwatch, because I don't really like shooters. So, as a person who works, and who has a family and kids and no time to play AAA games for hours and hours in a day, I'll definitely give it a go. Looks cool to me.
It's a generic looking game with what looks like generic game mechanics, with a generic warcraft theme slapped on top of it, and on mobile, which is the most generic platform out there. There's nothing inherently wrong with any of it, but there's also nothing that sets it apart from the rest. I hold blizzard to a higher standard than this.
Look at the developer that uses a power up a couple of times to actually get through the level. It reminds me of the power ups in Plants vs Zombies 2, where you could like earn one a week by playing or spend $$$ to buy outright, and the game being balanced to either use them or spend a ton of time failing over and over again as you slowly grind out what you need to actually advance.
I'm probably one of the target audience, someone who used to play wow a lot but now mostly plays phone games. I even used to play a lot of clash Royale. The game play looks fun, a pve version of Royale. The graphics don't do it for me though but I will probably try it for a bit. Fingers crossed its not a lootbox fiesta😅
@@DeeFourCee i think it does not resonate with me because its the middle ground between clash and warcraft aesthetics. I would probably prefer if they went full warcraft.
It's a mobile game. If anyone thinks there won't be microtransactions or were surprised to see them exist I don't know what to tell them. Play it on the toilet perhaps. It's not meant to be super in depth. I'm actually quite neutral on it. Don't see how anyone can be mad it exists. Just don't play it.
The "figures" on their own look fine, but when looking at the game itself it's very... flat? Bland? I'm not sure the right word but it looks very cheap. Even if it wasn't Blizzard, I wouldn't be interested in this. The only mobile game I play consistently is actually free to play friendly, so I'm just going to stick with that, since I'm sure they're going to push hard for your wallet. Plus, I don't really have space.
It's generic mobile phone game style that causes it. You can download any of the vaguely medieval themed apps and see the same or similar fonts and embellishments.
It looks really cheap and dated. Like it should have come out 7+ years ago. Starcraft probably would have been a better idea, since the IP is all but dead.
Tbh I don't see why Blizzard would ruin Warcraft's universe by setting up a generic mobile cash grab game with it. It feels really disrespectful to the series and I doubt they'll be able to catch the real feeling of Warcraft with this overly cartoonish/light hearted style. I dunno, I just don't think that this 'Hearthstone' thing is going to last.
I don't know if I am just too used to eastern mobile game standards or what, but this looks really bad even "for a mobile game"? Like, this looks like what I thought a mobile game would look like 10 years ago? Phones have come so far that they're easily stronger than handheld consoles in the past, hell, they're arguably even at a level of some cheap laptops. There is absolutely no reason why a new game should look like this.
I hate with passion cringe video dev announcements like this. It feels so forced and fake, who talks like this? Even if the passion is real most devs don't have charisma at all or just come out as creepy (Randy Putchford). I just see the Mr Burns meme of him in disguise going to school. The game also looks so bland, like it has no depth because of light and shadow work.
Why are people so mad? A free to play game with micro transactions? What do you guys think hearthstone is? Blizzard have been like this for years, are any of you surprised?
anger would require an emotional attachment... and disappointment would require hope Im actually just apathetic to their shenanigans at this point. for the record though, people are not overlooking Hearthstone but at this point the people who would be mad have burned out their anger of it by now. dont pretend like people werent flipping their tables when _that_ was released.
During a dev interview a developer said it has no lootboxes or “anything like that” but the google play store has it listed paid features as having “random rewards” which they are legally obligated to disclose
It's banned here in Belgium according to our rules against lootboxes. So it definitely has them
Oh, it's not lootboxes, you don't get loot, you get heroes, and you open them up in orbs, not boxes! They're hero-orbs! Totally distinct from lootboxes /s
@@neruneri Whatever they called them, it falls under a violation of the Belgian gambling laws. And it doesn't make the game more available for me to play lmao
I have reason to believe, shockingly enough, that either whoever said it doesn't just doesn't know or they're just lying.
Do you guys not HAVE credit cards? --Bliz, probably.
Souless Cashgrab! Glad wow is aging ever better :,)
The first impression was much like yours: there's going to be some kind of real money conversion. Buy units or power ups, pay to bring defeated heroes back sooner, pay for extra chances to beat an especially hard level.
I also couldn't help but notice they used a modernized version of a fifty year old song instead of making their own jingle.
Oh God, ballroom blitz really is nearly half a century old.
I can't hold using Ballroom Blitz against anyone. It's so good, I would absolutely do the same given the chance.
Why would you have to "buy" another attempt at a level? I don't understand, just do it again?
@@sephrinx4958 welcome to mobile gaming, where you only get x amounts of attempts per day and if you want more, pay up.
I wish this also include the part where he watched the devs announcement and nope out.
love how the gameplay trailer has amped up music with on screen characters moving at grand father with a walker speed
This is why they redeemed Sylvanas, so they could sell her as a premium hero.
So it's basically Lord of Vermillion, a free game that comes with your FFXIV subscription... Genius at Blizzard: "Let's make LoV, but make it pay to win" Other genius at Blizzard: "THAT'S BRILLIANT!"
Lets make LoV, but make it something people actually play
@@xYiazmatx But make it something people will actually pay. Its a mobile game, its gonna be predatory as hell and designed to incentive spending real money to lessen manufactured problems.
Not even, it's a complete clone of Clash Royale.
@@cardbutton892 I was poking fun at XIV andies making everything about their game, even if it's just entirely forgotten side content. As everyone else has already noted, it's way more likely to have taken inspiration from other popular mobile games (clash royale, etc) than... fucking lov of all things
That developer trailer was actually the worst. Like good god just act normal
It's a very specific strategy targeting a very specific demographic.
The design of this looks SO much like Clash of clans.
Something that makes sense considering the timeline this was developed and it was under Bobby K.
Clash of clans was part of the unholy trilogy of greed in gaming which was clash of clans - Candy crush - Call of duty. Any games outside this trilogy literally didn't exist for high end executive's for a large part of 2010's. (Would recommend checking out jim sterlings old video on it).
This game was made purely to milk as much money as possible since Activision already own CoD and Candy crush.
Co-worker who plays a lot of mobile games like Clash of Clans (or Clash Mini or whatever he keeps talking to me about as I nod along) is very excited about this. Asked me if I'd seen the trailer and how awesome the figurines looked and all I could say was the gameplay looked like garbage.
Of course I'm aware that the Blizzard of old is gone, but even back with Hearthstone and Overwatch you could still see glimpses of them coming into a genre with a polished AF take on a known formula and taking over the genre. I'm looking at this and while I know I'm not the audience, I couldn't tell you if it looks any different from all those other mobile games. Hell, I think the units look barely recognizable during gameplay and that says a lot when its original designs come from an RTS.
Either way, I guess we both got what we expected from that announcement and neither of us is disappointed, so good job, I guess.
Collect 60 heroes and buy another 60 from the store. Talent's time well spent.
Honestly if it was another company I could possibly believe the developers were as passionate about the game as they sounded instead of catering to the audience they believe will likely play their game?
Either way the game looks as mobile game as you could possibly get, maybe gameplay is more fun than it looks but first impressions were rather bland in my opinion.
Someone in the beta test showed a video about the ingame "store", but there were no chests in there, you can buy only a limited supply of gold and gems per day, like two-three purchases of the same amount every time.
I'm mostly just looking forward to the 3d models getting ripped so I can 3d print them for a WoW dnd campaign.
the game canonically existing inside the Warcraft universe is a fun touch, but it does lead to some kinda messed up situations:
"Bro check this out I just pulled a 5 star Onyxia!" "wait what really? that's kinda fucked up dude, She killed my parents when she firebombed stormwind as prestor"
You know the sad thing is that this game is probably going to make more money then WoW.
Very doubt it. You underestimate how competitive mobile market is atm. This would have made money 5-6 years ago.
I think it is gonna crash and burn, it is not made for WoW audience but a younger generation and they don’t have the history or emotional ties to WoW, so why would the play this instead of any other game already on the market like this.
Blizzard is just another company trying to get in on the mobile market. The high regard so many boomers hold for that company isn't the same for many others. Personally, mobile market is only place I trust Blizzard to give the appropriate amount of monetization.
@@redmist2195 Na it's going to appeal to many people in Asia like China. Why do you think even the simplest mobile game like Candy Crush and Clash Royal makes triple the money then WoW like hundreds of billions of dollars. Mobile games makes more money then every mmo game and triple A games combined.
@@chilidaemon7113 Na it's going to appeal to many people in Asia like China. Why do you think even the simplest mobile game like Candy Crush and Clash Royal makes triple the money then WoW like hundreds of billions of dollars. Mobile games makes more money then every mmo game and triple A games combined.
The best that I can say is that it *definitely* looks like a mobile game.
Man blizzard went from a juggernaut of the industry to "hey here is our clash of royals clone"
Blizz shoving their Clash of Clans (CoC) down our throats
We don’t want your CoC blizzard.
@@DeeFourCee Don't act like an Idiot, I know you're not (and this is for life), take a look at "Clash of Clans" first before replicating what you've seen people saying. People are saying bullship and you're going with them lol. Don't go saying what you don't know for sure before drawing your own conclusions.
Devs thinking we wanted a warcraft mobile game is proof they want the game industry to crash and burn, and push us away in droves. So tired of this disrespect to the fans.
The industry just sees console and PC games as a cancer that need to go away. These parlor games that take a weekend to code and design make billions more in revenue than the grandiose passion projects we expect out of them.
@@providencebreaker1558 true. the "devs" dont think anything. They are workers, hired to produce a product.
@@ich3730 I should rephrase then, the stakeholders?
If the game was good and not p2w OK but it looks like shit.
The worst thing is that it's not even like a RPG or a smaller version of WoW. It's like a royal clash clone
Well, not every game is meant for everyone, that's it. I don't like WoW for example but always loved the RTS series in both franchises, WC and SC. I Love Diablo as well, don't like Overwatch, because I don't really like shooters. So, as a person who works, and who has a family and kids and no time to play AAA games for hours and hours in a day, I'll definitely give it a go. Looks cool to me.
It's a generic looking game with what looks like generic game mechanics, with a generic warcraft theme slapped on top of it, and on mobile, which is the most generic platform out there. There's nothing inherently wrong with any of it, but there's also nothing that sets it apart from the rest.
I hold blizzard to a higher standard than this.
They haven't had any standards for years.
Look at the developer that uses a power up a couple of times to actually get through the level. It reminds me of the power ups in Plants vs Zombies 2, where you could like earn one a week by playing or spend $$$ to buy outright, and the game being balanced to either use them or spend a ton of time failing over and over again as you slowly grind out what you need to actually advance.
"TOASTY!" LMAO 🤣
I'm probably one of the target audience, someone who used to play wow a lot but now mostly plays phone games. I even used to play a lot of clash Royale. The game play looks fun, a pve version of Royale. The graphics don't do it for me though but I will probably try it for a bit. Fingers crossed its not a lootbox fiesta😅
It literally looks like Clash art style-ish
@@DeeFourCee i think it does not resonate with me because its the middle ground between clash and warcraft aesthetics. I would probably prefer if they went full warcraft.
its a game... ea$y to learn, difficult to ma$ter.
Can I get a link o the music in this video it's a real bop!
If you're looking for a good Dungeon Keeper type game Dungeons III was fun IMO.
The trailer “player characters” looked like they were made by Disney 💀💀💀
Start the timer, for when it drops the Warcraft title as Hearthstone did.
no thank you
Looks like something that would make an ok 10-15 dollar spinoff. But yeah, banned in Belgium for gambling and I hate lootboxes so hard no from me.
When you haven't beaten Warcraft 3's corpse enough
It's a mobile game. If anyone thinks there won't be microtransactions or were surprised to see them exist I don't know what to tell them.
Play it on the toilet perhaps. It's not meant to be super in depth.
I'm actually quite neutral on it. Don't see how anyone can be mad it exists. Just don't play it.
I get the feeling they are aiming at a younger audience because they are less likely to complain and not know they are being taken advantage of.
you're gonna play it. most wow players will. it's a kotick maze, you guys eat that shit up
Yay! More mobile cash grabs.....I mean games.
8:51 wait wait wait…what’s the story here??
What’s an arclite?
I could not be more disappointed over the direction of gaming nowadays. Who plays this?? I'd honestly rather watch UA-cam and maybe learn something
The "figures" on their own look fine, but when looking at the game itself it's very... flat? Bland? I'm not sure the right word but it looks very cheap. Even if it wasn't Blizzard, I wouldn't be interested in this. The only mobile game I play consistently is actually free to play friendly, so I'm just going to stick with that, since I'm sure they're going to push hard for your wallet. Plus, I don't really have space.
It's generic mobile phone game style that causes it. You can download any of the vaguely medieval themed apps and see the same or similar fonts and embellishments.
It looks really cheap and dated. Like it should have come out 7+ years ago. Starcraft probably would have been a better idea, since the IP is all but dead.
Tbh I don't see why Blizzard would ruin Warcraft's universe by setting up a generic mobile cash grab game with it. It feels really disrespectful to the series and I doubt they'll be able to catch the real feeling of Warcraft with this overly cartoonish/light hearted style. I dunno, I just don't think that this 'Hearthstone' thing is going to last.
Not the game I want
So Diablo Immortal is a reskin of every mobile ARPG and Arclight is a reskin of Clash Royale. Great.
If I had to guess, they're trying to get younger audiences interested in the Warcraft IP with this game.
Mobile aint for me but whoever enjoys it go for it
Not just cross faction Mike they have talents before you do in Shadowlands lmao
why do they push gnomes on everything?
Man blizzard style isn't their own original style anymore. It's definitely Disney style now
Do you guys not have phones?
I bet they got phones now.
I don't know if I am just too used to eastern mobile game standards or what, but this looks really bad even "for a mobile game"? Like, this looks like what I thought a mobile game would look like 10 years ago? Phones have come so far that they're easily stronger than handheld consoles in the past, hell, they're arguably even at a level of some cheap laptops. There is absolutely no reason why a new game should look like this.
Everyone talking about Loot boxes and mobile game clones, but to me the game just looks like shit KEKW
the wow community was cruel on this one
I hate with passion cringe video dev announcements like this. It feels so forced and fake, who talks like this? Even if the passion is real most devs don't have charisma at all or just come out as creepy (Randy Putchford). I just see the Mr Burns meme of him in disguise going to school.
The game also looks so bland, like it has no depth because of light and shadow work.
The trailer looked cool, and then they showed me the game lol.
It’s clash royale
There is already a gacha game out similar to this where you collect heroes and build your army - typical unoriginal Blizz.
Souless cashgrab, why play this inferior product when stuff like gfl/ak is out there
This looks so much like clash royale I'd argue they should sue lmfaooo
12:40 The only true WAR is Warhammer: Age of Reckoning.
how low has warcraft sunk...
Why are people so mad? A free to play game with micro transactions? What do you guys think hearthstone is? Blizzard have been like this for years, are any of you surprised?
No, just disappointed.
They still market and carry themselves as the Blizzard who is capable of so much more. They're the ones setting the expectations, not us.
anger would require an emotional attachment... and disappointment would require hope
Im actually just apathetic to their shenanigans at this point. for the record though, people are not overlooking Hearthstone but at this point the people who would be mad have burned out their anger of it by now. dont pretend like people werent flipping their tables when _that_ was released.
For some people, blizzard is a symbol of their childhood. Like nintendo or the disney channel.
Micro transactions are fine, it’s the random loot boxes that are the problem